Original Message Date: 08 Aug 92 10:14:24 From: Frank Gaude on 1:203/8888 To: Tom Jennings on 1:1/1 Subj: Technology... ^AMSGID: 1:203/8888@fidonet.org 6e8a1873 Hi, Tom! Don't know if you remember me from the CP/M days. I ran Echelon, چ Inc., along with Richard Conn and ZCPR3 and Z-System replacements for چ CP/M. Had about 78 Z-Nodes ready to connect to FidoNet in 1985 or '86 then چ sold the company just before it happened. Anyway, I came across a msg on BCSNET echo that left me wondering. Here it چ is for your information: ---------------------------- Boston Computer Net # 144 Date: 07-25-92, 17:11 Left by: MIKE LABBE Sent to: ROBERT GORRILL Status: Public Topic: BCSNET Rcvd: No IF BCSNet was to expand itself to some of the newer networking چ technologies and major professional nets as well, it would be very چ successful and used. Networks such as Ilink, RIME, etc., have much to چ offer and seem to attract a more professional crowd than some of the fido چ echoes. If this base was to be shared with some of those networks, it چ would only distribute it to more folks in more areas. The other networking چ technologies have some other advantages such as restricted (semi private) چ mail, reference numbers, FAST turnaround (usually 12 - 24 hours), and چ reliability. Perhaps its time for BCS to re-think this and consider چ modernization. Of course Im not suggesting we do away with the fido links, چ just make use of some of the newer technology as well - so more users can چ be included. I've been networking about 7 of my 9 years as sysop, and only چ in 1992 did I finally opt to install the fido technology. We would have چ been part of BCSNET long ago if it had been available through some of the چ other channels (QWK, PCRelay/PostLink, etc.). I recall mentioning this چ years ago at some of the fido sysop meetings in Boston, but it fell to چ deaf ears at the time. My opinion for what its worth: Mike Labbe, BCS چ Providence SysOp. --- DB B1073/004201 * Origin: Eagles Nest BCS Providence, RI Satellite 401-732-5290 چ (1:323/500) Mike Labbe is sysop of Eagles Nest... Robert Gorrill is either president چ of Boston Computer Society or moderator of BCSNET echo area. ---------------------------- Thought you might like to know what some are saying... expecially in the چ old Boston Computer Society, a society that was of the highest regard by چ all at the start of microcomputers. Regards, Frank at Lake Tahoe (retired, but alive!) Original Message Date: 11 Aug 92 15:59:18 From: Frank Gaude on 1:203/8888 To: Tom Jennings on 1:125/111 Subj: Technology... ^AMSGID: 1:203/8888@fidonet.org 700fb14b > Thanks for the historical reference... I was unclear > on it though, are > they now using FidoNet and about to move onward, or > are they using > something proprietary/older and moving into FidoNet? They, BCSNET, are on FidoNet now, but some think it is "old technology" چ and want to attach to "modern" RIME or ILink. I've been on RIME as an echo/message user and think it is a well-run business of about 280 echos. The only thing I think such a چ net has that Fido does not is a clear msg interface to the user. They چ allow the offline reader tagline to remain and a three-dash tearline (no چ mail processor ad here) followed by an origin line. That's it! Fido should not allow all the "junk" they do. The RE: added that some چ editors or mail handlers add should be done away with. All this appears as چ less than professional--amateur can be better than professional--in the چ eyes of today's computer users. RIME looks good. ((I'm a graphic designer چ by trade, until I retired, after I sold Echelon to Steve Makulka (Apple) چ and Ken Oshmann (ROLM Corp), I turned to "visual communications".)) Maybe you think FidoNet is growing fast enough. My feeling that if we can چ make it look better, we should. Membership can be controlled in other چ ways. I don't want people saying we are "old technology." > (I lived in Boston, and never joined BCS; I went with > NECS New England > Comp. Soc., which was more specifically techie and > smaller. They ran a > HDOS-based BBS on a H19 if I remember right...!) I love Boston and the general area... home of our country! That's why I چ carry BCSNET and chat with the locals. I also love the Sierras! Keep up the good work... Regards, Frank, high in the mountains overlooking Lake Tahoe