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  Msg#: 186             Sent Local                   Date: 05 Sep 92  01:22:58
  From: ANdy GreeN                                   Read: Yes    Replied: No 
    To: Mike Labbe                                   Mark:                     
  Subj: MAN YOU WERE GOOD LAST NIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!
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000000000000000000000H MIKEY!!!!! YOU AND THAT 3 YR OLD KID WERE GREAT IN BED
LAST NIGHT FUCK ME SOME MORE SOME TIME, K?


... Mike labbe molests kids.
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 ! Origin: Cerebral Babylon [401.435.3576] 9600 / E.Prov.RI (1:323/110.0)

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  Msg#: 187             Sent Local                   Date: 05 Sep 92  04:48:40
  From: Stan Weyman                                  Read: Yes    Replied: No 
    To: All                                          Mark:                     
  Subj: Closing of FIDO-323
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Due to unforseen dificulties, loss of income, and other events beyond my
control
I regret to announce that FIDO-323 is going down. I know this saddens many of
you, as it does me. Maybe someday it will go back up again, i dont know, for I
wont be here. I am going to California to live with my relatives until I can
get back on my feet.

 Stan


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  Msg#: 197             Sent                         Date: 05 Sep 92  17:48:35
  From: Stan Weyman                                  Read: Yes    Replied: No 
    To: Andy Green                                   Mark:                     
  Subj: MAN YOU WERE GOOD LAST NI
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-> 0000000000H  YOU AND THAT 3 YR OLD KID WERE GREA

->  ! Origin: Cerebral Babylon [401.435.3576] 9600 / E.Prov.RI (1:323/11

   Todd.... ??

       Stan


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  Msg#: 198             Sent                         Date: 05 Sep 92  17:50:07
  From: Stan Weyman                                  Read: Yes    Replied: No 
    To: Stan Weyman                                  Mark:                     
  Subj: Closing of FIDO-323
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-> Due to unforseen dificulties, loss of income, and other events beyond
-> control

-> I regret to announce that FIDO-323 is going down. I know this saddens
-> you, as it does me. Maybe someday it will go back up again, i dont kn
-> I
-> wont be here. I am going to California to live with my relatives unti
-> get back on my feet.

   Interesting....strange I didn't know about this myself...smile...

   Todd...we have a problem here my friend as this seems to have
originated from your system ?

      Stan


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  Msg#: 201             Sent                         Date: 06 Sep 92  07:05:14
  From: Steve Medeiros                               Read: Yes    Replied: No 
    To: Stan Weyman                                  Mark:                     
  Subj: Re: MAN YOU WERE GOOD LAST NI
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>  
> -> 0000000000H  YOU AND THAT 3 YR OLD KID WERE GREA 
>  
> ->  ! Origin: Cerebral Babylon [401.435.3576] 9600 / E.Prov.RI 
> (1:323/11 



>  
>    Todd.... ?? 
>  
>        Stan 



This is the last straw!  This jerk (whoever it is, but we all know) is going
beyond being an immature pain-in-the-ass, and has crossed the bounds.  Any
sysop, TODD INCLUDED, should demand that this guy knock it off or get the hell
out of BBSing.

Todd...you KNOW who wrote this, and there's no way even you can condone it.

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  Msg#: 207             Sent                         Date:  6 Sep 92  13:35:00
  From: James Williams                               Read: Yes    Replied: No 
    To: Stan Weyman                                  Mark:                     
  Subj: Closing of FIDO-323
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-=> James Williams babbled something unintelligible to Stan Weyman <=-

 JW> * Replying to a message originally to Stan Weyman on 09-05-92
 
 SW >-> Due to unforseen dificulties, loss of income, and other
 SW >events beyond
 SW >-> control
 SW >
 SW >-> I regret to announce that FIDO-323 is going down. I know
 SW >this saddens
 SW >-> you, as it does me. Maybe someday it will go back up again,
 SW >i dont kn
 SW >-> I
 SW >-> wont be here. I am going to California to live with my
 SW >relatives unti
 SW >-> get back on my feet.
 JW> 
 JW> Stan,
 JW> 
 JW> Seems that we have one of those whoppie-cushion commandos in there
 JW> posting as  you and Andy Green.. Did you see the last message prior to
 JW> this one? Makes me  sick.. 
 SW >   Interesting....strange I didn't know about this
 SW >myself...smile...
 SW >
 JW> 
 JW> heh.. I hear California is nice this time of year too.. <grin>
 JW> 
 JW> Jim
 JW> 
 JW> 
 JW> -!- FMail 0.90
 JW>  ! Origin: Blackstone Valley BBS Woon. RI (401) 769-2055 (1:323/201)



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  Msg#: 208             Sent                         Date: 07 Sep 92  15:26:26
  From: Stan Weyman                                  Read: Yes    Replied: No 
    To: Steve Medeiros                               Mark:                     
  Subj: Re: MAN YOU WERE GOOD LAS
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-=> Stan Weyman babbled something unintelligible to Steve Medeiros <=-

 -> This is the last straw!  This jerk (whoever it is, but we all know) i
 -> going beyond being an immature pain-in-the-ass, and has crossed the b
 ->  Any sysop, TODD INCLUDED, should demand that this guy knock it off o
 -> the hell out of BBSing.
 ->
 -> Todd...you KNOW who wrote this, and there's no way even you can condo

 SW> whether Todd knew who wrote it has yet to be established....there
 SW> were a few messages from Marcy Crossman and Mike Labbe posted in Nenet
 SW> as well that obviously didn't come from the people in question....IF
 SW> Todd knows who is doing this I hope he acts on it because I agree with
 SW> your statement that he wouldn't condone this either...

 SW> Stan

 SW> 
 SW> -!- WM v2.04/91-0061
 SW>  ! Origin: Nothing is so smiple that it can't get screwed up.
 SW> (1:323/105



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  Msg#: 210             Sent                         Date: 07 Sep 92  15:28:16
  From: Stan Weyman                                  Read: Yes    Replied: No 
    To: James Williams                               Mark:                     
  Subj: Closing of FIDO-323
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-=> Stan Weyman babbled something unintelligible to James Williams <=-

 -> Seems that we have one of those whoppie-cushion commandos in there po
 -> as  you and Andy Green.. Did you see the last message prior to this o
 -> Makes me  sick..

 SW> agreed....
 
 -> SW >   Interesting....strange I didn't know about this
 -> SW >myself...smile...
 -> SW >
 ->
 -> heh.. I hear California is nice this time of year too.. <grin>

 SW> ditto....smile...

 SW> Stan

 SW> 
 SW> -!- WM v2.04/91-0061
 SW>  ! Origin: Nothing is so smiple that it can't get screwed up.
 SW> (1:323/105



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  Msg#: 212             Sent                         Date:  6 Sep 92  16:03:00
  From: Jarett Kobek                                 Read: Yes    Replied: No 
    To: Andy Green                                   Mark:                     
  Subj: Man you were good last ni
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-=> Jarett Kobek babbled something unintelligible to Andy Green <=-

 -> 000000000000000000000H MIKEY!!!!! YOU AND THAT 3 YR OLD KID WERE
 -> GREAT IN BED
 -> LAST NIGHT FUCK ME SOME MORE SOME TIME, K?
 JK> 
 JK> That was a bit uncalled for.
 JK> 
 JK> -!- DB 1.38/004201
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  Msg#: 213             Sent                         Date:  6 Sep 92  16:04:00
  From: Jarett Kobek                                 Read: Yes    Replied: No 
    To: Stan Weyman                                  Mark:                     
  Subj: Closing of fido-323
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-=> Jarett Kobek babbled something unintelligible to Stan Weyman <=-

 -> Due to unforseen dificulties, loss of income, and other events beyond
 -> my control
 -> I regret to announce that FIDO-323 is going down. I know this saddens
 -> many of
 -> you, as it does me. Maybe someday it will go back up again, i dont
 -> know, for I
 -> wont be here. I am going to California to live with my relatives
 -> until I can
 -> get back on my feet.
 JK> 
 JK> Now that was comedy.
 JK> 
 JK> -!- DB 1.38/004201
 JK>  ! Origin: Eagles Nest Communications - Warwick/Providence (1:323/500)



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  Msg#: 215             Sent                         Date:  5 Sep 92  16:43:00
  From: Ray Joyce                                    Read: Yes    Replied: No 
    To: Stan Weyman                                  Mark:                     
  Subj: Closing of fido-323
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-=> Ray Joyce babbled something unintelligible to Stan Weyman <=-

 RJ> SW}   Interesting....strange I didn't know about this
 RJ> myself...smile... SW} SW}   Todd...we have a problem here my friend as
 RJ> this seems to have SW}originated from your system ?
 RJ> 
 RJ> Am I about to feel like a fool for sending you a message of
 RJ> regrets for a situation that does not exist?  If so, might I
 RJ> suggest that we bestow the perpetrator with a multitudinous
 RJ> endowment of selected-placement contact to the cranial/facial
 RJ> area?
 RJ> 
 RJ> I am sure that the individual(s) would dislike the local
 RJ> authorities so much that a complaint would be out of the
 RJ> question.  <BG>
 RJ> 
 RJ> -!- DB 1.38/004201
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  Msg#: 217             Rec'd Sent                   Date:  5 Sep 92  17:29:00
  From: Ray Joyce                                    Read: Yes    Replied: No 
    To: Jarett Kobek                                 Mark:                     
  Subj: Man you were good last ni
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-=> Ray Joyce babbled something unintelligible to Jarett Kobek <=-

 RJ> JK}That was a bit uncalled for.
 RJ> 
 RJ> Is that all you can say?
 RJ> 
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  Msg#: 218             Sent                         Date:  6 Sep 92  22:08:00
  From: Mike Labbe                                   Read: Yes    Replied: No 
    To: Stan Weyman                                  Mark:                     
  Subj: Cb
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-=> Mike Labbe babbled something unintelligible to Stan Weyman <=-

 ML> I would like to officially file a grievance and demand that something
 ML> be done about the recent messages, board, and user who posted them. 
 ML> This kind of horse shit will not be tolerated, and an example should
 ML> be made immediately.  This stuff should also not be ENCOURAGED by
 ML> adults.  Just because this information is being distributed through an
 ML> electronic medium, that does not make it any less libellous.  I want
 ML> to know who is responsible. 
 ML> 
 ML> If no disciplinary action is taken, there will probably be one less
 ML> board on the network.  I know you aren't responsible and I realize you
 ML> are an innocent victim TOO, but you wear the hat here and Im venting
 ML> my frustration in your direction because it is the proper channel to
 ML> do so. 
 ML> 
 ML> Mike
 ML> 
 ML> -!- DB 1.38/004201
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  Msg#: 219             Sent                         Date:  5 Sep 92  23:16:00
  From: Ray Joyce                                    Read: Yes    Replied: No 
    To: James Williams                               Mark:                     
  Subj: Closing of fido-323
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-=> Ray Joyce babbled something unintelligible to James Williams <=-

 RJ> JW}Seems that we have one of those whoppie-cushion commandos in there
 RJ> JW}posting as  you and Andy Green.. Did you see the last message prior
 RJ> to  JW}this one? Makes me  sick.. 
 RJ> Jim, as an ordinary user and non-sysop, I found the message(s)
 RJ> non-humerous.
 RJ> 
 RJ> The one concerning Mike Labbe was low, out of place and the work
 RJ> of a *sicko* mind. [IMO]   I wonder if the originator of that
 RJ> message would have the balls to convey the same message in a
 RJ> closed room........no one else around, just the closed room.  I
 RJ> would greatly love to be the recipient of same message in same
 RJ> closed room.  <G>
 RJ> 
 RJ> Also non-humerous was the message regarding Stan.  Perhaps I am
 RJ> looking at things incorrectly........I view comments
 RJ> {purportedly} coming from a person as *that* person's comments.
 RJ> Guess I should know better!  <BG>
 RJ> 
 RJ> Seems to me that if a person wants to play games and impersonate
 RJ> someone else, that belongs in a different area.  **It might even
 RJ> be FUNNY.  However, in a non-comedy area the idea of leaving a
 RJ> message in another's name is no longer humerous.  Its
 RJ> fraud.....and an insult.  Not funny or humerous at all.
 RJ> 
 RJ> I would not want someone using my name to leave messages just as
 RJ> I would not want someone to sign a check with my name.  I
 RJ> consider that a very personal thing not taken lightly.
 RJ> 
 RJ> Then again, I'm not a Sysop so perhaps my views are
 RJ> different......then again, I don't have to impersonate someone
 RJ> else to be myself.  These clowns that impersonate other people
 RJ> must really like them....else why bother?  <G>
 RJ> -rtj-
 RJ> 
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  Msg#: 220             Sent                         Date:  6 Sep 92  00:04:00
  From: Ray Joyce                                    Read: Yes    Replied: No 
    To: Steve Medeiros                               Mark:                     
  Subj: Man you were good la
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-=> Ray Joyce babbled something unintelligible to Steve Medeiros <=-

 RJ> SM}Todd...you KNOW who wrote this, and there's no way even you can 
 RJ> condone SM}it. 
 RJ> Am also waiting for a response from the Omnipotent one regarding
 RJ> the same post.
 RJ> 
 RJ> -!- DB 1.38/004201
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  Msg#: 221             Sent                         Date:  7 Sep 92  01:38:00
  From: Jarett Kobek                                 Read: Yes    Replied: No 
    To: Ray Joyce                                    Mark:                     
  Subj: Man you were good last ni
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-=> Jarett Kobek babbled something unintelligible to Ray Joyce <=-

 -> Is that all you can say?
 JK> 
 JK> What?????!??!?! It was uncalled for and I stated so. It's not like *I*
 JK> posted it.. dammit.. 
 JK> -!- DB 1.38/004201
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  Msg#: 222             Sent Local                   Date: 07 Sep 92  03:50:41
  From: Dave Asselin                                 Read: Yes    Replied: No 
    To: Steve Medeiros                               Mark:                     
  Subj: Re: MAN YOU WERE GOOD LAST NI
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-=> Dave Asselin babbled something unintelligible to Steve Medeiros <=-

 DA> In a drug-induced haze, Steve Medeiros related this to Stan Weyman: 
 
 SM> Todd...you KNOW who wrote this, and there's no way even you can
 SM> condone it. 
 DA> 
 DA> Wrong.  Todd has almost no way to know who posted this unless he saw
 DA> it being uploaded in a packet.  Whoever did this simply hex edited a
 DA> Blue Wave packet.  Kid's stuff, really.
 DA> 
 DA> I don't know enough about Telegard to know whether or not the logs
 DA> will show who posted it.
 DA> 
 DA> As an aside, why do you assume Todd condones this action?  Methinks
 DA> you're looking for a way to trash Todd yet again.
 DA> 
 DA> -pM
 DA> 
 DA> 
 DA> ... "Drink up.. Happy Hour is now enforced by law.." - Dead Kennedys
 DA> -!- Blue Wave/TG v2.10
 DA>  ! Origin: Cerebral Babylon [401.435.3576] 9600 / E.Prov.RI
 DA> (1:323/110.0)



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  Msg#: 226             Sent                         Date: 07 Sep 92  20:09:33
  From: Stan Weyman                                  Read: Yes    Replied: No 
    To: Mike Labbe                                   Mark:                     
  Subj: Cb
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-=> Stan Weyman babbled something unintelligible to Mike Labbe <=-

 -> I would like to officially file a grievance and demand that something
 -> done about the recent messages, board, and user who posted them.  Thi
 -> of horse shit will not be tolerated, and an example should be made
 -> immediately.  This stuff should also not be ENCOURAGED by adults.  Ju
 -> because this information is being distributed through an electronic m
 -> that does not make it any less libellous.  I want to know who is resp
 
 -> If no disciplinary action is taken, there will probably be one less b
 -> the network.  I know you aren't responsible and I realize you are an
 -> victim TOO, but you wear the hat here and Im venting my frustration i
 -> direction because it is the proper channel to do so.

 SW> there appears to be two problems here...

 SW> 1.  someone has decided to start importing messages into a network
 SW> they have nothing at all to do with for the express purpose of causing
 SW> trouble...

 SW> 2.  someone's mailer system is allowing them to do so...

 SW> there is little that can be done about point 1...proving anything
 SW> could be next to impossible thus I think the area to concentrate in is
 SW> point 2.  the originating system appears to be Todd's although this
 SW> may not be the case.  Secured processing of mail packets needs to be
 SW> enforced by all involved else they are not going to be welcome as part
 SW> of this network...period...

 SW> let's make it a topic at the next meeting Mike...I don't wish to
 SW> see you leave over this ( although it appears NENET is also being used
 SW> as a floor for more childishness )...

 SW> IF we can find out who...there are things that can be done...

 SW> ideas ??

 SW> Stan

 SW> 
 SW> -!- WM v2.04/91-0061
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  Msg#: 227             Sent                         Date: 07 Sep 92  20:12:03
  From: Stan Weyman                                  Read: Yes    Replied: No 
    To: Dave Asselin                                 Mark:                     
  Subj: Re: MAN YOU WERE GOOD LAS
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 -> As an aside, why do you assume Todd condones this action?  Methinks
 -> you're looking for a way to trash Todd yet again.

 SW> I don't believe Steve was trying to give the impression that he
 SW> believes Todd would condone it...the 'even' in his statement may have
 SW> been misinterpreted...

 SW> sigh...though this was gonna stop for a bit...

 SW> Stan

 SW> 
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  Msg#: 229             Sent                         Date: 07 Sep 92  18:08:00
  From: Steve Medeiros                               Read: Yes    Replied: No 
    To: Mike Labbe                                   Mark:                     
  Subj: Re: Cb
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 > I would like to officially file a grievance and demand that 
 > something be done about the recent messages, board, and user who 
 > posted them.  This kind of horse shit will not be tolerated, and an 
 > example should be made immediately.  This stuff should also not be 
 > ENCOURAGED by adults.  Just because this information is being 
 > distributed through an electronic medium, that does not make it any 
 > less libellous.  I want to know who is responsible. 
 SM> 
 SM> 
 SM> YOu've got my backing on this also.  The little kiddie games have 
 SM> been allowed to progress a bit too far here.  The three of them are
 SM> laughing, but I think it's time we had the last laugh. 
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  Msg#: 202             Sent                         Date: 08 Sep 92  18:04:02
  From: Gil Gomes                                    Read: Yes    Replied: No 
    To: Jarett Kobek                                 Mark:                     
  Subj: Man you were good last ni
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 -> That was a bit uncalled for.
 ->
 GG> 
 GG> Jarett...  We finally find some common ground...
 GG> 
 GG> 
 GG> 
 GG> Gil
 GG> 
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  Msg#: 203             Sent                         Date:  7 Sep 92  12:18:00
  From: Charles Guttman                              Read: Yes    Replied: No 
    To: All                                          Mark:                     
  Subj: Gay baiting
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Recently, one of the participants in this conference publically, tastelessly,
and irresponsibly accused another participant of sexually molesting yong boys. 
This accusation has a long, and utterly unedifying, history behind it, and, by
now, I am sure most of us are thoroughly sick of it.  But, there is one aspect
of this disgrace that needs further comment, comment it has *not* received. In
view of the history behind this pissing match, it should be clear to everyone
that the point of the accusations is not the illegality of what is alleged to
have occurred, nor the abusive charactor of what is alleged to have occurred,
nor the hope that, through this exposure, other potential victims will be
warned off.  Clearly, this accusation, these repeated accusations, are the
electronic equivalent of scrawling "FAIRY! FAIRY! FAIRY!" upon the target's
fence.  Were the epithet "NIGGER" or "KIKE", no one would be debating the
applicability of the epithet (as occurred in the past of this pissing contest),
nor would terms like "inappropriate," "uncalled for," and "tasteless" be the
extent of the condemnation.  The act of posting the original message would be
seen as a hate crime, a clear case of race baiting or religion baiting. Of
course, gay baiting has long been far more socially acceptable than Jew baiting
or Nigger baiting.  Apparently, it is so unobjectionable that hours of
primetime television are devoted to covering Danney Quaile and his friends as
they engage in this form of All-American machismo. As some of you already know,
I am Bi.  I am also Jewish.  I take baiting *very* personally, especiall#, but
not only, Gay baiting.  I also take it very personally that a stop has not yet
been put to this bullshit on this sig.  Why has that bigot's posting privilege
not yet been REVOKED FOR LIFE?  It should be IMMEDIATELY. CRG

 * SLMR 2.1a * See you at The March on Washington, April 25, 1993.

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  Msg#: 205             Sent                         Date:  7 Sep 92  08:25:00
  From: Ray Joyce                                    Read: Yes    Replied: No 
    To: Jarett Kobek                                 Mark:                     
  Subj: Man you were good last ni
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 RJ> JK}What?????!??!?! It was uncalled for and I stated so. It's not like
 RJ> *I* JK}posted it.. dammit.. 
 RJ> Just tweaking, Jarett.  <BG>
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  Msg#: 184             Sent                         Date: 10 Sep 92  20:47:40
  From: Stan Weyman                                  Read: Yes    Replied: No 
    To: Charles Guttman                              Mark:                     
  Subj: Gay baiting
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-> yet been put to this bullshit on this sig.  Why has that bigot's post
-> privilege not yet been REVOKED FOR LIFE?  It should be IMMEDIATELY. C

   sometimes it's a matter of conclusively identifying those responsible
Charles...I've made more than a few moves in the past based on
erroneous information and regretted it...the picture is starting to
focus though and there will be some kind of reaction forthcoming...this
I promise...

      Stan - FidoNet 323 Net Coordinator/323-Chat Moderator/Impersonatee


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  Msg#: 185             Sent                         Date: 10 Sep 92  20:49:58
  From: Stan Weyman                                  Read: Yes    Replied: No 
    To: J. Barrett                                   Mark:                     
  Subj: Closing Of Fido-323
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-> whoever is in charge do something til this guy/gal whatever really
-> gets out of hand. we had a local incident of a user u/ling a virus
-> to a bbs, he's also logged onto other systems using others names
-> and hacked at their passwords, he got a one year sentence, but
-> it is suspended. if he gets into any more problem they will invoke
-> the sentence to juvenile hall for one year.

   I'd like to talk to you more about this J but in a different
envoronment...will try calling you over the weekend and see if we can't
go over what you know of how the above prosecution was handled...

     Stan ( my friends call me Perry...grin )


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  Msg#: 186             Sent                         Date:  9 Sep 92  07:42:00
  From: Mike Labbe                                   Read: Yes    Replied: No 
    To: Stan Weyman                                  Mark:                     
  Subj: Cb
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Thanks for the support, Stan. Yes, we can discuss it at the meeting. We aren't
dropping the net, I was just "hot" at the time.

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  Msg#: 188             Sent                         Date:  8 Sep 92  12:56:00
  From: Ray Joyce                                    Read: Yes    Replied: No 
    To: Stan Weyman                                  Mark:                     
  Subj: Closing of fido-323
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SW}    nah....the sentiment was great Ray and the
SW}solution..well...extraordinary....smile...

   Just a thought.  <BG>  At any rate am happy to hear that the
   message was a phony and all is well.

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  Msg#: 190             Sent                         Date: 10 Sep 92  01:37:00
  From: Stephen Knudde                               Read: Yes    Replied: No 
    To: Dave Asselin                                 Mark:                     
  Subj: Nonsense
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-> Calling Himself These Days.  The user who posted the offending
-> messages took advantage of a quirk in the Blue Wave Mail Door.

Well, let's get moving here to remove that 'quirk' at least before your local
users start hollering.

Details in NENET-Sysops.

'We've got a bigger problem now...'

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  Msg#: 192             Sent                         Date: 10 Sep 92  03:45:02
  From: Stephen Knudde                               Read: Yes    Replied: No 
    To: James Williams                               Mark:                     
  Subj: Cerebral babylon
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JW> SK >Actually I was thinking more of an amateurly (sp? wherezat
JW> SK >dictionary?) but effectivelly performed Lobotomy. Or a TRO

JW> Need a power drill? I have a Black & Decker sitting here
JW> that'll do the job  nicely..

you're not one of these young adults/complex world folks, no?
Power drills to the head are associated with suicide, if you don't know  (g)

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  Msg#: 193             Sent                         Date: 10 Sep 92  03:02:00
  From: Stephen Knudde                               Read: Yes    Replied: No 
    To: Mike Labbe                                   Mark:                     
  Subj: Cb
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*ML> If no disciplinary action is taken, there will probably be one less    *
*ML> board on the network.  I know you aren't responsible and I realize you *
*ML> are an innocent victim TOO, but you wear the hat here and Im venting my*
*ML> frustration in your direction because it is the proper channel to do so*
*****************************************************************************

'channel'?

I suspect a little overdiplomacy here?
===
 * MegaMail 2.10 #0:Piranhas make GREAT pets.

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  Msg#: 195             Sent                         Date: 10 Sep 92  09:24:00
  From: James Williams                               Read: Yes    Replied: No 
    To: Stephen Knudde                               Mark:                     
  Subj: Cerebral babylon
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SK >you're not one of these young adults/complex world folks, no?
SK >Power drills to the head are associated with suicide, if you
SK >don't know  (g)

Actually, if I'm not mistaken, a labodomy is the operation where holes are 
drilled into the skull and into the brain and a probe is inserted to sever 
nerves to "calm" a person. A power drill saves time over the hand crank drill.
<grin>

Jim


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  Msg#: 196             Sent                         Date: 10 Sep 92  13:54:27
  From: Ralph Oelbaum                                Read: Yes    Replied: No 
    To: Mike Labbe                                   Mark:                     
  Subj: Cb
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Hello Mike,

In a message on <Sep 09 07:42>, you wrote:

 ML> Thanks for the support, Stan. Yes, we can discuss it at the 
 ML> meeting. We aren't dropping the net, I was just "hot" at the 
 ML> time.

I too am glad that you are not dropping out. See you at the meeting.

Ralph

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  Msg#: 199             Sent                         Date: 10 Sep 92  18:02:32
  From: Ralph Oelbaum                                Read: Yes    Replied: No 
    To: J. Barrett                                   Mark:                     
  Subj: Closing Of Fido-323
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 JB> whoever is in charge do something til this guy/gal whatever really
 JB> gets out of hand. we had a local incident of a user u/ling a virus
 JB> to a bbs, he's also logged onto other systems using others names
 JB> and hacked at their passwords, he got a one year sentence, but
 JB> it is suspended. if he gets into any more problem they will invoke
 JB> the sentence to juvenile hall for one year.

You bring up a very good point. If that person is at fault he/she will have
some company knocking at the door. I think that this will cleaar up soon, at
least I hope so.

                        Ralph


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  Msg#: 200             Sent                         Date: 10 Sep 92  20:12:01
  From: Stephen Knudde                               Read: Yes    Replied: No 
    To: James Williams                               Mark:                     
  Subj: Cerebral babylon
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JW> and a probe is inserted to sever  nerves to "calm" a person.

there was a guy in England who drilled 7 holes into his skull before he passed
out & died.

Anyway, the Amateur Lobotomy sounds good.  Looks like we'll be needing heavier
bits, though, it may be all skull and no brain..in which case we can use a
blasting cap to uncover whatever's there..(g) 
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  Msg#: 183             Sent                         Date: 11 Sep 92  15:22:00
  From: J. Barrett                                   Read: Yes    Replied: No 
    To: Stan Weyman                                  Mark:                     
  Subj: Closing Of Fido-323
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SW>-> whoever is in charge do something til this guy/gal whatever really
SW>-> gets out of hand. we had a local incident of a user u/ling a virus
SW>-> to a bbs, he's also logged onto other systems using others names
SW>-> and hacked at their passwords, he got a one year sentence, but
SW>-> it is suspended. if he gets into any more problem they will invoke
SW>-> the sentence to juvenile hall for one year.

SW>   I'd like to talk to you more about this J but in a different
SW>envoronment...will try calling you over the weekend and see if we can't
SW>go over what you know of how the above prosecution was handled...
ill recapture the messages i've seen in reference to the incident
and post them here, they are public ones with quotes of which part
of the ri state law was enacted upon.
i'm in the book.

 * SLMR 2.1 * I am not arguing with you; I am telling you.
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  Msg#: 184             Sent                         Date: 11 Sep 92  15:22:00
  From: J. Barrett                                   Read: Yes    Replied: No 
    To: Ralph Oelbaum                                Mark:                     
  Subj: Closing Of Fido-323
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RO> JB> whoever is in charge do something til this guy/gal whatever really
RO> JB> gets out of hand. we had a local incident of a user u/ling a virus
RO> JB> to a bbs, he's also logged onto other systems using others names
RO> JB> and hacked at their passwords, he got a one year sentence, but
RO> JB> it is suspended. if he gets into any more problem they will invoke
RO> JB> the sentence to juvenile hall for one year.

RO>You bring up a very good point. If that person is at fault he/she will have
RO>some company knocking at the door. I think that this will cleaar up soon, at
RO>least I hope so.
some it takes a longer time than others to realize this is not
a play system as some other local systems are.

 * SLMR 2.1 * I'm in a phone booth at the corner of Walk and Don't Walk
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  Msg#: 186             Sent                         Date: 10 Sep 92  00:00:00
  From: Ray Joyce                                    Read: Yes    Replied: No 
    To: J. Barrett                                   Mark:                     
  Subj: Closing of fido-323
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JB}gets out of hand. we had a local incident of a user u/ling a virus JB}to a
bbs, he's also logged onto other systems using others names
JB}and hacked at their passwords, he got a one year sentence, but
JB}it is suspended. if he gets into any more problem they will invoke
JB}the sentence to juvenile hall for one year.

   Now *that* seems like a step in the right direction.

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  Msg#: 188             Sent                         Date: 10 Sep 92  07:14:00
  From: Mike Labbe                                   Read: Yes    Replied: No 
    To: Stephen Knudde                               Mark:                     
  Subj: Cb
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-> *ML> frustration in your direction because it is the proper channel
-> to do so*


-> 'channel'?
->
-> I suspect a little overdiplomacy here?

No - Can't be clear enough in this state, Steve.  The ego's bruise easily and I
try to be squeeky clear as to my intentions. Playing by the rules, so I won't
regret anything later.

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  Msg#: 190             Sent                         Date: 10 Sep 92  18:48:00
  From: Charles Guttman                              Read: Yes    Replied: No 
    To: James Williams                               Mark:                     
  Subj: Gay baiting
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JW>Very well said Charles!
Thank you, Jim.
CRG

 * SLMR 2.1a * Blessed be The Goddess and The God.

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  Msg#: 191             Sent                         Date: 10 Sep 92  21:23:05
  From: Gil Gomes                                    Read: Yes    Replied: No 
    To: James Williams                               Mark:                     
  Subj: Cerebral babylon
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-> * Replying to a message originally to Ray Joyce on 09-08-92
->
-> SK >Actually I was thinking more of an amateurly (sp? wherezat
-> SK >dictionary?) but effectivelly performed Lobotomy. Or a TRO
->
-> Need a power drill? I have a Black & Decker sitting here that'll do t
-> nicely..
->

    Lobotomies by Smith and Wesson are generally fairly effective.
Especially if you use hollow point .357 surgical instruments.


                                       Gil


-!- WM v2.03/92-0006
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  Msg#: 195             Sent                         Date: 11 Sep 92  16:57:00
  From: Stephen Knudde                               Read: Yes    Replied: No 
    To: Mike Labbe                                   Mark:                     
  Subj: Cb
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ML> intentions. Playing by the rules, so I won't regret anything
ML> later.

Well, with school under way, the 'fan' has probably been turned off.

-!- GEcho 1.00/beta
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  Msg#: 200             Sent                         Date: 12 Sep 92  10:26:26
  From: Stan Weyman                                  Read: Yes    Replied: No 
    To: J. Barrett                                   Mark:                     
  Subj: Closing Of Fido-323
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-> ill recapture the messages i've seen in reference to the incident
-> and post them here, they are public ones with quotes of which part
-> of the ri state law was enacted upon.
-> i'm in the book.

   thanks

       Stan


-!- WM v2.04/91-0061
 ! Origin: Uh oh.  Your zip file is open! (1:323/105)

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  Msg#: 201             Sent                         Date: 12 Sep 92  16:35:26
  From: Richard Walton                               Read: Yes    Replied: No 
    To: Ralph Oelbaum                                Mark:                     
  Subj: Alas
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        I looked for the notorious messages, Ralph, but couldn't find them. 
Are they now in the Adults-Only section?  <grin>  Peace.  Richard.

-!- Maximus 2.01wb
 ! Origin: Mise en Place is know chatting (1:323/112)

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  Msg#: 202             Sent                         Date: 12 Sep 92  17:32:04
  From: Ralph Oelbaum                                Read: Yes    Replied: No 
    To: Richard Walton                               Mark:                     
  Subj: Alas
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 RW>         I looked for the notorious messages, Ralph, but 
 RW> couldn't find them.  Are they now in the Adults-Only 
 RW> section?  <grin>  Peace.  Richard.


Sorry to say but the messages have deleted by the mailer during an event that
happened in the last two nights. I have no ADULTS ONLY AREA on the system.

                        Ralph


-!- Maximus 2.01wb
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  Msg#: 204             Sent                         Date: 12 Sep 92  17:36:18
  From: Ralph Oelbaum                                Read: Yes    Replied: No 
    To: J. Barrett                                   Mark:                     
  Subj: Closing Of Fido-323
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 JB> some it takes a longer time than others to realize this is not
 JB> a play system as some other local systems are.


Very true. This is know play act. What has happened is something that no sysop
wants to see. I know that I sound like some big shot of the net but I am just
part of the net. Being that the case, we as a net work together to solve things
like this. I belong to more than one net as most sysops do, and at that point
you have to look out for the other nets that you represent. I am part of two
net in this state where I am or maybe one or two other that are part of. This
means that I have to very careful with what goes on here.

                        Ralph


-!- Maximus 2.01wb
 ! Origin: Mise en Place is know chatting (1:323/112)