Date:       Mon, 24 May 93 17:09:52 EST
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To:         Comp-privacy@PICA.ARMY.MIL
Subject:    Computer Privacy Digest V2#045

Computer Privacy Digest Mon, 24 May 93              Volume 2 : Issue: 045

Today's Topics:				Moderator: Dennis G. Rears

                       Electronic Fingerprinting
                    [Cristy: Credit Card without SSN]
   Re: Redistribution of E-Mail attained via research Right or Wrong?
   Re: Redistribution of E-Mail attained via research Right or Wrong?
                               P.O. Boxes

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From: Steven J Masover <emma@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Subject: Electronic Fingerprinting
Date: 20 May 1993 03:58:37 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley


Dear netters,

I would like info on Electronic Fingerprinting please.  Could someone
please point me in a pertinent direction.  I would like to know about
current capabilities, latest developments, EDS, the AFIRM and Match
System, War/Horror stories, etc. etc.

I am particularly interested in anything to do with the fingerprinting
of General Assistance recipients (As has been happening in Alameda
since February of this year and as is proposed for San Francisco.  It
has been in place in Los Angeles since 1991).

Thanking ye in advance,
yours,
Michael Stack 

(Please direct replies to me at "stack@starnine.com" for it is not often that 
I'm to be found up on this ledge).

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Date:     Thu, 20 May 93 16:22:57 EDT
From:     Brinton Cooper <abc@brl.mil>
cc:       Cristy <cristy@eplrx7.es.dupont.com>
Subject:  [Cristy: Credit Card without SSN]
Organization:  The US Army Research Laboratory


Cristy <cristy@eplrx7.es.dupont.com> writes that she just received her
first VISA card w/o submitting her SSN:

>  I applied
> to over 10 different offers I got in the mail.  They all turned me down
> because I did not submit my SSN except for one.

Perhaps this is because the issuer already had her SSN?

_Brint

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From: Penio Penev <penev%rockefeller.edu@PICA.ARMY.MIL>
Subject: Re: Redistribution of E-Mail attained via research Right or Wrong?
Reply-To: penev@venezia.rockefeller.edu
Organization: Rockefeller University
Date: Sun, 23 May 1993 01:10:10 GMT

On 19 May 1993 03:08:07 GMT Richard Roda (roda@canton.cs.unca.edu) wrote:
| hauben@cs.columbia.edu (Michael Hauben) writes:
| : In conducting research on the Net, I have often gotten requests
| : from people who would like me to forward to them the private
| : e-mail responses I have gotten via e-mail. What do people think
| : about this? I usually have waited until I have finished the paper
| [remainder deleted]

| I will not foward an E-mail message from another person.  However, if part
| of an Email message is a copy of a public file/document (such as a friend
| sending me a game he found via anonymous ftp), I will resend the part
| that is public, since the fact that such information is public is not
| changed by the form that I recieved it in.
  
A good practice, when conducting research and promising a summary to
the net, is to include in the original request for information an
additional request to the authors of email for granting you the right
to include their mails in a summary.

In addition to that, a good practice is to explicitly grant/not grant
rights for including your email in a summary, where you feel, that
the information may be useful for doing so.

--
Penio Penev  x7423 (212)327-7423 (w) Internet: penev@venezia.rockefeller.edu

Disclaimer: All oppinions are mine.

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From: Bryan Pfaffenberger <bp@watt.seas.virginia.edu>
Subject: Re: Redistribution of E-Mail attained via research Right or Wrong?
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Mon, 24 May 1993 19:10:21 GMT


References: <comp-privacy2.44.7@pica.army.mil>

>: In conducting research on the Net, I have often gotten requests
>: from people who would like me to forward to them the private
>: e-mail responses I have gotten via e-mail. What do people think
>: about this? I usually have waited until I have finished the paper
>[remainder deleted]
>
I go to the net with research questions, but I would 
absolutely, *never, never* comply with a request to forward
messages I have received.  A fundamental obligation of any
researcher is to protect the privacy and anonymity of one's
correspondents or interview subjects. Disclosure of their
names and use of their private expression require their
express written permission after full disclosure of the
use to which the information will be put.  This is pretty much
the standard ethic in scholarship--at least, the scholarship
I was taught.

Hope this helps.
-- 
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Bryan Pfaffenberger|bp@virginia.edu|compuserve 72164,117
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Newsgroups: comp.society.privacy,alt.privacy
From: pbray@reed.edu
Subject: P.O. Boxes
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR
Date: Sun, 23 May 1993 21:43:00 GMT


Does anyone know what type of information one needs to supply to get  
a P.O. Box.  I mean, does one need to give name, home address and so  
forth.  Can you rent a box anonymously?  Also, if this is not the  
case, under what circumstances would the workers of the P.O. Box give  
out this information?  Finally, does anyone know the monthly cost of  
a P.O. Box?

Peter

[Moderator's Note:  You generally need name and address.  They will take
your address and mail you a confirmation card.  You than take this
card and present it to the PO.  They will then give your box.  I pay $14
every 6 months for mine.  I think they have to give your name and address
to anyone who requests it.  ._dennis ]

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