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Subject: Computer Privacy Digest V3#057
Computer Privacy Digest Thu, 14 Oct 93 Volume 3 : Issue: 057
Today's Topics: Moderator: Dennis G. Rears
Re: Digital Detective At Your Service
Re: Digital Detective At Your Service
Re: Digital Cash
CPSR Annual Meeting in Seattle Oct 16-17
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From: Larry Kolodney <lkk@panix.com>
Newsgroups: comp.society.privacy,alt.privacy,misc.consumers,misc.legal,misc.misc
Subject: Re: Digital Detective At Your Service
Date: 12 Oct 1993 22:53:50 -0400
Organization: The Devil's Advocate
In <comp-privacy3.55.2@pica.army.mil> ptownson@telecom.chi.il.us writes:
> DIGITAL DETECTIVE
> 2241 W. Howard #208
> Chicago, IL 60645
>
> Phone: 312-465-0707
> Fax: 312-743-0002
>I wish to announce my recent aquisition of some databases which are
>primarily used by skip-tracing, investigative and government agencies
>to locate people, any assets they may have, and other pertinent and
>personal details of their lives.
>These databases are being made available to anyone who wishes to have
>access to them. The charges are simply being passed along, 'at cost'
>based on what I am paying.
I find this hard to believe. The costs that were posted in the rest
of this article were far in excess to what I pay for similar services
from a commercial vendor. In particular, my vendor does nationwide
SS# searches for $10-15 a shot, not the $60 this guy is asking.
Similarly, credit reports can be had for about $30. (N.B. obtaining a
credit report without a bona fide purpose is illegal. If this guy
send you one w/o checking your reasons, that's illegal too).
--
larry kolodney:(lkk@panix.com):
&#+!*&$+!?&%+!*&^_)*&#%)*&^%#+&&^_)*&#%)*&^%#+&&#+!*&$+!?&%+!*&^_)*&#%)
Coming to you from Brooklyn, NY, where the weak are killed and eaten.
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Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1993 11:44:10 -0400
From: CHRISTIAN S MORLEY <csmorley@titan.ucs.umass.edu>
Subject: Re: Digital Detective At Your Service
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Newsgroups: comp.society.privacy,alt.privacy,misc.consumers,misc.legal,misc.misc
Is it just me or does anyone else find this service a tad frightening?
--
--------------csmorley@student.umass.edu (Christian S. Morley)---------------
"Nietzsche said `What does not kill me only serves to make me stronger...'
My version is...What does not kill me only serves to make me sleep until
3:30 the next afternoon." -Jim Carroll
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From: Paul Wallich <pw@panix.com>
Subject: Re: Digital Cash
Date: 13 Oct 1993 16:45:40 -0400
Organization: Trivializers R Us
In article <comp-privacy3.55.3@pica.army.mil> Todd M Cocks <tmc141@skorpio.usask.ca> writes:
>Ok, after being told by numerous people that what I was talking about was a
>debit card and not digicash, I'm now struck with a question:
>
>Why is privacy so important that people are wary about debit cards and instead
>would like the total anonymity of digicash? If the purchases made through a
>debit card are known only to the purchaser, the place the item/service was
>purchased and the bank, what is the problem? Laws have been put in place
>to protect banks from handing out account information to just anyone, no?
No. The banks can sell information on your purchasing habits to
various kinds of marketing companies or use it to mark their own
additional service to you. If you get involved in a lawsuit, this
information may also be open to subpoena. And that's ignoring the
question of whether the information should be around where it "just
happens" to get out into the world at large.
>Digicash has many of the disadvantages of current cash transactions. Illegal
>activities can be conducted with complete anonymity. If you are mugged, I
>don't think the guy mugging you will accept that you don't wish to tell him
>your decode number...
It's kinda more likely that someone mugging you won't notice until
later that they have nothing but a card that's no good to them (or
better yet, a code that tells shopkeepers to call the police).
As for your first point, this cuts both ways. Transactions that may
or may not be legal depending on your country or the prejudices of
your local DA can be conducted with complete anonymity. However, digital
cash could be easily designed to enforce certain requirements, e.g.
the U.S. regulation on reporting cash transactions of more than $10,000.
paul
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From: <kaliyuga@carson.u.washington.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.censorship,alt.activism,comp.society.privacy,misc.activism.progressive,alt.privacy
Subject: CPSR Annual Meeting in Seattle Oct 16-17
Date: 14 Oct 1993 01:40:45 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
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COMPUTER PROFESSIONALS FOR SOCIAL RESPONSIBILITY
ANNUAL MEETING
October 16 - 17, 1993
University of Washington, South Campus Center
Seattle, Washington, USA
Envisioning the Future:
A National Forum on the
National Information Infrastructure and Community Access
Co-sponsored by the American Society for Information Science
Pacific Northwest Chapter (ASIS-PNC)
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The National Information Infrastructure (NII) is the proposed medium or
"electronic highway" that will connect schools, libraries, government
agencies, and citizens using state-of-the-art computer and communications
technology. Media, computer, and telecommunications companies are also
acutely interested in the NII as it dramatically increases their
opportunity for delivery of communication, services, and entertainment.
CPSR is convening this meeting for both computer professionals and the
informed public to discuss the broad range of choices facing society
regarding the NII.
Saturday, October 16th
8:00 - 9:00 Registration/Coffee & Tea
9:00 - 9:15 Welcome to the CPSR Annual Meeting - Aki Namioka
9:15 - 10:15 Keynote Address - Bruce McConnell,
Office of Management and Budget
"Shaping National Information Infrastructure Policy"
Bruce McConnell, Chief of Information Policy at the Office of
Information and Regulatory Affairs in the Office of Management and
Budget (OMB), will present his views on the major NII issues now
facing the administration. He has been with OMB since 1985 and
became head of Information Policy in 1992. He now chairs the
inter-agency task force responsible for developing federal
information policy for the Information Infrastructure Task Force.
10:15 - 10:45 Break
10:45 - 12:15 Panel Discussion - Moderated by Eric Roberts
"Public Access to Internetworks"
Public access to the Internet (and other major networks) is a critical
issue in any discussion about an "electronic highway". Panelists
representing a wide variety of perspectives, including representatives
from the Pacific Northwest, will present their views.
Panelists:
Phil Bereano, College of Engineering, University of Washington
Eric Hood, NorthWestNet
Sonia Jarvis, National Coalition on Black Voter Participation
Jim Taylor, Coordinator Automated Services, Seattle Public Library
12:15 - 1:45 Lunch Break
1:45 - 3:00 Panel Discussion - Moderated by Andrew Gordon
"Municipal Information Infrastructure"
City and other government agencies are exploring possibilities for
developing municipal networks. In this panel a city official as well as a
representative from the state regulatory agency and a representative of
commercial interests will offer their insights and interests.
Panelists:
Joe Hommel, Washington Utilities and Transportation Commission
Susan McAdams, Electric Lightwave
Jan Vazzano, Department of Administrative Services, Seattle
3:00 - 4:30 Panel Discussion - Moderated by Doug Schuler
"Networking in the Community"
Community networks exist and are being developed all over the U.S.
Panelists from various community networks will present their
perspectives on the state of community networking now and in the future.
Panelists:
Tom Grundner, National Public Telecomputing Network
Parker Lindner, New Media Matters
Evelyn Pine, former Executive Director of Community Memory
Roy Sahali, CLAMDYP (Computing Literacy and Access Making a Difference for
Youth Projects)
4:30 - 4:45 Break
4:45 - 6:15 Panel Discussion - Moderated by Marc Rotenberg
"Computers and Democracy - What's the Connection?"
How might computers facilitate the democratic process? How might they
pervert it? "Electronic Democracy" is currently in the public eye and
aspects of it will probably be tested soon. What can be done to promote
wise uses of computers in this critical area?
Panelists:
Leah Lievrouw, Department of Telecommunication and Film,
University of Alabama
Jamie Love, Taxpayers Assets Project
Laura Powers, Libraries for the Future
6:15 - 6:30 Closing Remarks - Jeff Johnson
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7:00 - 7:30 No Host Bar at Banquet Site
7:30 CPSR Banquet - Fundraiser - Waterfront Activities Center
(Vegetarian food will be available)
+ Presentation of the 1993 Norbert Wiener Award to The Institute
for Global Communications (IGC)
Presenter: Eric Roberts
The CPSR Board of Directors has chosen to award the 1993 Wiener
Award to IGC in recognition of the work the organization has done to
use network technology to empower previously disenfranchised
individuals and groups working for progressive change. Geoff Sears,
IGC's Executive Director, will be present to accept the award.
+ Banquet Address and Interactive Event - Kit Galloway, Electronic
Cafe International
Kit Galloway of Electronic Cafe International in Santa Monica,
California will present his innovative approach to electronic
communication using phone lines, slow-scan television, and other
technology. Using videotapes and a live demonstration with CPSR
chapters in Los Angeles and other locations, Kit will discus how the
Electronic Cafe concept has been used in a variety of settings.
Electronic Cafe International has staged global events with poets,
children, and communities in France, Nicaragua, Japan, as well as a
variety of American cities.
Be sure to attend the banquet and participate in this provocative
encounter with multimedia community networks !!
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Sunday, October 17th
The second day of the conference will feature a more interactive format
including several workshops, a discussion of CPSR's NII vision, and a
special - free ($2.00 suggested donation) and open to the public -
panel discussion on "Privacy Implications of Health Care Reform"
Sunday evening.
8:30 - 9:30 Coffee & Tea
9:30 - 11:30 Workshop Sessions
Gender Relations in Networking
- Judi Clark
Information Policy: A Framework for Action
- Karen Sy
Computer Professionals and Social Action
- Jeff Johnson
Towards Participatory Design of Community Oriented Systems and
Services
- Michael Muller, Jayson Webb, and Susan Davies
11:30 - 1:00 Lunch Break
1:00 - 2:30 CPSR Discussion
2:30 - 3:00 Break
3:00 - 4:30 CPSR NII Vision Document Discussion - Moderated by Todd Newman
4:30 - 5:00 Closing Remarks - Future CPSR NII Program - Marc Rotenberg
7:30 - 9:30 Special Panel Discussion
"Health Care Reform and the National Information
Infrastructure: Opportunities and Risks"
David Flaherty, Information and Privacy Commissioner, BC
Irwin Governman, CIO Group Health Cooperative
Lance Heineccius, Director of Policy, WA Health Services Commision
Richard Reuben, Executive Director, Foundation for Healthcare Quality
Moderated by Kit Bakke
This special event is free and open to the public.
Kane 210, University of Washington
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ABOUT CPSR
Computer Professionals for Social Responsibility stands alone as the only
national, non-partisan, public-interest organization dedicated to
understanding and directing the impact of computers on society. Decisions
regarding the use of this technology have far-reaching consequences that
necessarily reflect the basic values and priorities of the people who govern
their use.
Founded in 1981, CPSR has 2000 members from all over the world and 22
chapters across the country. Each of our members is an important participant
in the dialogue that is helping to shape the future use of computers in the
United States. Our National Advisory Board includes one Nobel laureate and
three winners of the Turing Award, the highest honor in computer science.
We believe that as the influence of computers continues to permeate every
aspect of our society, it is important that professionals become active
participants in formulating the policy that governs computer use and access.
CPSR welcomes any and all who share our convictions.
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MEETING SUPPORT
We'd like to thank the following corporations and foundations for their
generous support of the 1993 Annual Meeting.
Interval Research Corporation
FirstPerson, Inc. a subsidiary of Sun Microsystems
John and Mary R. Markle Foundation
PictureTel
Digital Equipment Corporation
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Registration Form
Please pre-register as soon as possible to ensure attendence. Registrations
at the door will be accepted as space allows.
Name
________________________________________________________________
_
Address
______________________________________________________________
City _______________________________ State _____________ Zip _________
Telephone __________________________
E-mail_____________________________
CPSR member $55 _______
Non member $75 _______
1 year CPSR membership & registration $100 _______
Low income/student $25 _______
Banquet ticket $40 X ___ = _______
Additional donation to further CPSR's work _______
Total enclosed _______
For more information contact CPSR, 415-322-3778, draper@csli.stanford.edu,
or Aki Namioka, 206-865-3249, aki@cpsr.org. Send completed registration
form with check to: CPSR, P.O. Box 717, Palo Alto, CA 94301
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