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Subject:    Computer Privacy Digest V3#060

Computer Privacy Digest Thu, 21 Oct 93              Volume 3 : Issue: 060

Today's Topics:				Moderator: Dennis G. Rears

                          Re: Finding someone
                          Re: Finding someone
                 Re: Digital Detective At Your Service
                 Re: Digital Detective At Your Service
                      Re: Clinton Health Care Plan
                      US Privacy Council Seminar

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From: Carl Oppedahl <oppedahl@panix.com>
Newsgroups: alt.privacy,comp.society.privacy,misc.legal
Subject: Re: Finding someone
Date: 18 Oct 1993 16:06:21 -0400
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC

In <comp-privacy3.58.4@pica.army.mil> Rajiv A Manglani <rajiv@athena.mit.edu> writes:

>I am trying to find a lost relative. All I have is his name, birth date, and
>social security number. How might I get an address or phone number?

No problem writing to your relative.  The Social Security Administration
will forward your letter to him.  Call them for details;  basically you
write a letter, put it in an unsealed envelope, write the SSN and name
on the outside, and deliver that envelope to some SSA address in
Baltimore.  They then mail it to the last known address.



-- 
Carl Oppedahl AA2KW  (patent lawyer)
1992 Commerce Street #309
Yorktown Heights, NY  10598-4412
voice 212-777-1330  

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From: Larry Kolodney <lkk@panix.com>
Newsgroups: alt.privacy,comp.society.privacy,misc.legal
Subject: Re: Finding someone
Date: 19 Oct 1993 00:29:53 -0400
Organization: The Devil's Advocate

In <comp-privacy3.58.4@pica.army.mil> Rajiv A Manglani <rajiv@athena.mit.edu> writes:

>I am trying to find a lost relative. All I have is his name, birth date, and
>social security number. How might I get an address or phone number?

>Rajiv


There are many private companies that will do this for about $200.
One is called Equifax.  Another is People Locator.  They both have 800
numbers.

-- 
larry kolodney:(lkk@panix.com):
&#+!*&$+!?&%+!*&^_)*&#%)*&^%#+&&^_)*&#%)*&^%#+&&#+!*&$+!?&%+!*&^_)*&#%)
Coming to you from Brooklyn, NY, where the weak are killed and eaten.

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From: Larry Kolodney <lkk@panix.com>
Newsgroups: comp.society.privacy,alt.privacy,misc.consumers,misc.legal,misc.misc
Subject: Re: Digital Detective At Your Service
Date: 19 Oct 1993 00:28:33 -0400
Organization: The Devil's Advocate

In <comp-privacy3.59.5@pica.army.mil> Ron Mura <rmura@world.std.com> writes:

>>  I find this hard to believe.  The costs that were posted in the rest
>>  of this article were far in excess to what I pay for similar services
>>  from a commercial vendor.  In particular, my vendor does nationwide
>>  SS# searches for $10-15 a shot, not the $60 this guy is asking.

>Besides the cost, I'm curious about the availability of the data.  If
>this information is so readily available (at least to those who know
>how to get it), why hasn't some enterprising outfit exploited it more
>to make money?  Why doesn't America OnLine or some such service let
>you type in an SSN and get a report right back to the screen?


The outfit we use *is* making money.  They are a commercial vendor
accessable thru Compuserve.  They charge about $10 a search for SS#
searches.

-- 
larry kolodney:(lkk@panix.com):
&#+!*&$+!?&%+!*&^_)*&#%)*&^%#+&&^_)*&#%)*&^%#+&&#+!*&$+!?&%+!*&^_)*&#%)
Coming to you from Brooklyn, NY, where the weak are killed and eaten.

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Newsgroups: comp.society.privacy,alt.privacy,misc.consumers,misc.legal,misc.misc
From: poivre <poivre@netcom.com>
Subject: Re: Digital Detective At Your Service
Followup-To: comp.society.privacy,alt.privacy,misc.consumers,misc.legal,misc.misc
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1993 07:11:12 GMT

CHRISTIAN S MORLEY (csmorley@titan.ucs.umass.edu) wrote:
: Is it just me or does anyone else find this service a tad frightening?

Not just you, me too.  Its a goldmine for stalkers!

: -- 
:  --------------csmorley@student.umass.edu  (Christian S. Morley)---------------
: "Nietzsche said `What does not kill me only serves to make me stronger...'
: My version is...What does not kill me only serves to make me sleep until
: 3:30 the next afternoon." -Jim Carroll

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lychees@marble.bu.edu           | All opinions in this article are mine and
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Newsgroups: comp.society.privacy
From: miller@cs.rochester.edu
Subject: Re: Clinton Health Care Plan
Organization: University of Rochester Computer Science Dept
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 93 16:48:20 EDT


the password can be the users dna; you don't need to be conscious to
supply it.

I like the idea of having the only copy of one's medical history on the
"card", the key is to make sure the "card" cannot be easily misplaced,
e.g. emplanted subcutaneously. 

But really, I don't like the idea of the government, essentially,
barcoding me. Only one reason I'm against national health care.




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Organization: CPSR Washington Office
From: Dave Banisar <banisar@washofc.cpsr.org>
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1993 15:33:09 EST    
Subject: US Privacy Council Seminar  

  US Privacy Council Seminar 10/22
  ***********************************************************
  
                          [please post]
  
        US Privacy Council Brown Bag Lunch Seminar Series
  
     "Privacy and the National Informational Infrastructure"
  
                        Patricia Faley
                 US Office of Consumer Affairs
  
  
                     CPSR Washington Office
                    Friday, October 22, 1993
                        12:00 - 2:00 pm
  

    Pat Faley is Acting Director of the United States Office of
Consumer Affairs and Chair of the Working Group on Privacy,
Information Policy Committee, Information Infrastructure Task Force.
She will discuss the Clinton Administration's privacy proposals for
the NII for the NII and for the health care reform program.
  
     Following Ms. Faley's talk, there will be a general meeting
of the US Privacy Council to discuss the agenda for the Clinton
administration on privacy issues such as health care, the SSN,  the
Clipper Chip, and amendments to the Fair Credit Reporting Act.
  
  
  	CPSR Washington Office
  	666 Pennsylvania Ave., SE
  	Suite 303
  	Washington, DC
  	202/544-9240
  	(one block from the Eastern Market metro)
  

  In cooperation with Computer Professionals for Social
Responsibility.

For more information on the US Privacy Council, please contact Evan
Hendricks at 202-829-3660.
  
  [if you would like to be notified of future USPC
  Seminars, please send a note with e-mail address to
  banisar@washofc.cpsr.org]
  
  ***********************************************************


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