Date: Tue, 26 Oct 93 11:20:50 EST
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From: Computer Privacy Digest Moderator <comp-privacy@PICA.ARMY.MIL>
To: Comp-privacy@PICA.ARMY.MIL
Subject: Computer Privacy Digest V3#061
Computer Privacy Digest Tue, 26 Oct 93 Volume 3 : Issue: 061
Today's Topics: Moderator: Dennis G. Rears
Nov. 17 program: ACRL/NY symposium
Re: Worse Than Billboards
Re: Finding someone
Re: Finding someone
Re: Finding someone
Re: Finding someone
Re: Digital Detective At Your Service
isn't one's diary considered "private" ??
Items from Monterey County Coast Weekly
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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1993 13:38:43 -0400 (EDT)
From: RANDORF@medlib.hscbklyn.edu
Subject: Nov. 17 program: ACRL/NY symposium
If you are in the greater New York City area, you won't want to
miss the November 17th (Wednesday) Annual Symposium.
The Symposium theme is "Developing a National Information Policy &
Infrastructure: Building Powerful Partnerships." Speakers will present a
variety of perspectives on the developing national information scene
including those from higher education, libraries, business and government.
The Symposium will give us all an opportunity to hear timely presentations
from those who are actively engaged in creating the "on ramps for the data
superhighway." Legislative initiatives, funding and access issues,
strategies for working with private and public sector interests will be
part of the learning experience for those attending the Symposium.
Speakers are:
Carol Henderson, Deputy Executive Director of ALA's Washington Office;
Jean Armour Polly, Manager, Network Development & User Training, NYSERnet,
Ira H. Fuchs, President of CREN (Corporation for Research and Educational
Networking and Vice-President for Computing and Information
Technology at Princeton;
Elizabeth Buffum, Director of the U.S. Dept. of Energy's Office of Scientific
and Technical Information;
Nancy Kranich, Associate Dean of Libraries, New York University;
Herbert Schiller, author and Visiting Professor in NYU's Culture &
Communication Program.
In addition to presentations, the Symposium will include a panel format so
that our speakers can engage in a lively discussion of the issues as well
as invite the audience to bring questions for consideration.
The all-day Symposium will be held at the Fashion Institute of
Technology, 7th Avenue at 27th Street in Manhattan; pre-registration until
Nov 8th: $35 for chapter members and $40 for nonmembers ($5 additional at
the door); includes lunch.
Members of ACRL/NY and other local library associations will receive a
registration brochure in the mail. If you do not receive a registration
brochure by October 22nd, please request one from Janet Wagner, Hofstra
University Library; e-mail (librfjsw@vaxc.hofstra.edu) or fax (516-560-
7679).
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From: "Ron A. Hudson" <rhudson@gomez.intel.com>
Subject: Re: Worse Than Billboards
Date: 21 Oct 1993 21:40:12 GMT
Organization: Intel Architecture Labs, Santa Clara CA
John Higdon (john@zygot.ati.com) wrote:
> On Oct 12 at 16:27, Computer Privacy Digest Moderator writes:
> > Subject: Digital Detective At Your Service
> I never thought that I would have to see this ad here in addition to
> everywhere else. Are your advertising rates reasonable? I run an IP
B
> [Moderator's Note: I'e received many complaints about this one. This is
> one where I wasn't paying attention. I was gone for about 10 days
> and really just looked at the headers as opposed to the body of the
> article. ._dennis ]
I think even though it may be advertising, It's a good thing to know
that:
a) Other people can get the 'dirt' on me through this service
and
b) I can get my own 'dirt' and see if it is correct
and
c) I can play like the 'big boys' and get the 'dirt' on others
(perhaps event the 'big boys' themselves)
May be an ad, but it's an informative one... :)
--
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Ron Hudson, Currently a novell system administrator at INTEL
All views expressed are my own, I don't know if Intel agrees or not..
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Newsgroups: alt.privacy,comp.society.privacy,misc.legal
From: jt -- John Thompson <thompson@space.honeywell.com>
Subject: Re: Finding someone
Followup-To: alt.privacy,comp.society.privacy,misc.legal
Organization: Honeywell Inc.
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1993 22:43:20 GMT
Larry Kolodney (lkk@panix.com) wrote:
: In <comp-privacy3.58.4@pica.army.mil> Rajiv A Manglani <rajiv@athena.mit.edu> writes:
: >I am trying to find a lost relative. All I have is his name, birth date, and
: >social security number. How might I get an address or phone number?
: There are many private companies that will do this for about $200.
: One is called Equifax. Another is People Locator. They both have 800
: numbers.
So will the SAlvation Army, if what I heard was true. They're also,
apparently, cheaper. However, if your relative doesn't want to be
found, the S.A. won't tell you where s/he is. (I don't know if
name/birthdate/SSN are sufficient for the S.A.)
--
-- jt --
John Thompson
Senior Design Automation Engineer / Sys-Admin On The Loose
Honeywell, SSEC
Plymouth, MN 55441
thompson@pan.ssec.honeywell.com ...regardless of what News may say
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* "I resemble only half the things I say I don't... *
* the other half resemble me." *
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Date: Sun, 24 Oct 93 03:38:29 -0400
From: Bob Sherman <bsherman@mthvax.cs.miami.edu>
Subject: Re: Finding someone
Newsgroups: alt.privacy,comp.society.privacy,misc.legal
Subject: Re: Finding someone
Date: 24 Oct 1993 03:38:24 -0400
Organization: Not much!
In <comp-privacy3.60.1@pica.army.mil> Carl Oppedahl <oppedahl@panix.com> writes:
>In <comp-privacy3.58.4@pica.army.mil> Rajiv A Manglani <rajiv@athena.mit.edu> writes:
>>I am trying to find a lost relative. All I have is his name, birth date, and
>>social security number. How might I get an address or phone number?
>No problem writing to your relative. The Social Security Administration
>will forward your letter to him. Call them for details; basically you
>write a letter, put it in an unsealed envelope, write the SSN and name
>on the outside, and deliver that envelope to some SSA address in
>Baltimore. They then mail it to the last known address.
This is easier said than done. Yes, the SSA will do as you described, but
the key here is your "last known address". In reality, The average person
never contacts the SSA from the time they first get the card, until it is
time to collect some sort of benifit. That can be anywhere from 45-63
years. A last known address that is 40 years or more old does not really
offer much help..
There are much faster, and easier ways to locate a person with the
information you have at hand..
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bsherman@mthvax.cs.miami.edu | | MCI MAIL:BSHERMAN
an764@cleveland.freenet.edu | |
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Date: Sun, 24 Oct 93 03:43:34 -0400
From: Bob Sherman <bsherman@mthvax.cs.miami.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.privacy,comp.society.privacy,misc.legal
Subject: Re: Finding someone
Organization: Not much!
In <comp-privacy3.60.2@pica.army.mil> Larry Kolodney <lkk@panix.com> writes:
>In <comp-privacy3.58.4@pica.army.mil> Rajiv A Manglani <rajiv@athena.mit.edu> writes:
>>I am trying to find a lost relative. All I have is his name, birth date, and
>>social security number. How might I get an address or phone number?
>>Rajiv
>There are many private companies that will do this for about $200.
>One is called Equifax. Another is People Locator. They both have 800
>numbers.
One such company that will do this for you, and for well under $100 is
Computer Assisted Research On Line, their number is 800-329-6397.
They should be able to do the entire project within hours.
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bsherman@mthvax.cs.miami.edu | | MCI MAIL:BSHERMAN
an764@cleveland.freenet.edu | |
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Newsgroups: comp.society.privacy,alt.privacy
From: Garry N Ray <gnray@world.std.com>
Subject: Re: Digital Detective At Your Service
Followup-To: comp.society.privacy,alt.privacy,misc.consumers,misc.legal,misc.misc
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1993 14:40:13 GMT
Charles W Van Keuren (cwvst+@pitt.edu) wrote:
: address in the US. He wrote a book telling of his techniques. I think it
: mighta just had a name like "How to Find Anybody".
: Anybody know the book of which I speak? Regardless, before you cough up
: $$$ to pay for a person-finding service, look for the book or a similar
: source.
There was a book by this name (or something similar) advertised in this
month's Spy magazine (or was it the recent Equire with "60 things you
should know" on the cover). One of those two, I'm sure, toward the back of
the magazine.
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From: David Jones <djones@cim.mcgill.ca>
Subject: isn't one's diary considered "private" ??
Date: 23 Oct 1993 18:39:48 -0400
Organization: Centre for Intelligent Machines, McGill University
In the (US) news recently are two cases involving personal diary
entries being used (or subpoenaed) as evidence.
I am surprised that this evidence is admissible, or at least that
no one has even tried to argue that it should be private.
(1) Some Senator accused of some sort of sexual harrassment has had
his personal diary subpoenaed. Why is he not protected by
the right not to give self-incriminating testimony?
(2) Some girl (a minor I think) apparently wrote in her diary that
she regrets killing her younger sister. I think her mother
found the diary and went to the police. Again, isn't a diary
to be considered private?
dj
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From: Jim Haynes <haynes@cats.ucsc.edu>
Date: Sat, 23 Oct 93 21:38:47 -0700
Subject: Items from Monterey County Coast Weekly
I can supply more details if you want them.
This week's (October 21) "Coast Weekly", a Monterey County free entertainment
(mostly) paper has an article on "hacking" by staff writer Nicole Volpe.
I'll quote part of an introduction from the editorial page.
"While interviewing computer hackers for this issue, it occurred
to me that there are a lot of similarities between reporters and
cyberpunks - We share a belief in freedom of information, a general
suspicion of those in power who operate secretly, and an unfortunate
tendency to invade privacy.
This reporter got a taste of what it's like to be on the receiving end
of privacy invasion when a hacker I was interviewing handed me a
printout of personal information about me that he had retrieved,
using nothing more than my home phone number. His reasons were valid
enough - he wanted to be sure I was who I said I was. As a reporter
I was impressed with the investigation, but on a personal level, it gave
me the creeps. It was a lesson they don't teach you in J-school..."
The main article covers the exploits of some crackers in the Monterey area,
their concern about the Clipper proposal, some stuff about arrests of
crackers in other parts of the country, and an interview with a security
man from Metromedia's long distance business. The latter says, "If you
picked up the phone a year ago, dialed one digit, and then hung up, I
could go back and find out what that one digit was. All the records are
stored on magnetic tape." He goes on to say about the prospect of seizing
and confiscating valuable equpment, "The cops are a little more aggressive
in going after these kinds of crimes when they learn about that aspect
of it."
A companion article by Hannah Nordhaus, a San Francisco freelance writer,
tells about the use of networking and BBSes by all kinds of groups, from
white-supremacisist to leftists, and everything in between.
Then there's an article about computer influence on comic books, taken
from the Boston Phoenix.
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