Received: from ns1.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa22467; 23 May 95 18:29 EDT Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA29176 for telecomlist-outbound; Tue, 23 May 1995 10:35:12 -0500 Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA29164; Tue, 23 May 1995 10:35:08 -0500 Date: Tue, 23 May 1995 10:35:08 -0500 From: TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson) Message-Id: <199505231535.KAA29164@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #251 TELECOM Digest Tue, 23 May 95 10:35:00 CDT Volume 15 : Issue 251 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson MCI Reenters Wireless (Steve Geimann) Rates, Rates, Rates .... (Stephen Croce) Canadian Telephone/Cable Competition Policy Announced (Dave Leibold) Re: T1.403 ESF and CRC-6 Usefulness (David C. Pratt) Re: Flash! NYNEX WWWeb Site With Yellow Pages for New York (Pieter Jacques) Re: Flash! NYNEX WWWeb Site With Yellow Pages for New York (Danny Burstein) Re: Flash! NYNEX WWWeb Site With Yellow Pages for New York (root@henry) Re: Flash! NYNEX WWWeb Site With Yellow Pages for New York (K.M. Peterson) Re: Last Laugh! Mike and Terry's Lawnmower Service (Heidi Serverian) Re: Last Laugh! Mike and Terry's Lawnmower Service (Robert Virzi) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of public service systems and networks including Compuserve and America On Line. It is also gatewayed to Usenet where it appears as the moderated newsgroup 'comp.dcom.telecom'. Subscriptions are available to qualified organizations and individual readers. Write and tell us how you qualify: * telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu * The Digest is edited, published and compilation-copyrighted by Patrick Townson of Skokie, Illinois USA. 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Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Geimann@aol.com Date: Tue, 23 May 1995 06:56:42 -0400 Subject: MCI Reenters Wireless By STEVE GEIMANN Senior Editor, {Communications Daily} MCI returned to wireless Mon. with $190-million purchase of Nationwide Cellular Services (NCS) of N.Y. and is negotiating agreements with other carriers to expand coverage nationwide. NCS operates in 10 U.S. cities in Northeast, Upper Midwest and West Coast, covering 25% of U.S. population. MCI needs greater coverage to be significant player in wireless resale against AT&T Wireless and Sprint-Cable alliance in winning PCS licenses. Neither MCI nor Nationwide bid in broadband auction. "We don't have to own underlying facilities to deliver service," said Kevin Inda, senior mgr., investor relations. "There's a glut of spectrum available." MCI deal prompted Cellular Telecommunications Industry Association to step up lobbying against amendment to HR-1555 by Rep. Barton (R-Tex.) that would give wireless resellers direct access to facilities built by service providers. MCI last week sent letter to Hill supporting Barton amendment. In letter Mon. to House Commerce Committee Chmn. Bliley (R-Va.), CTIA Pres. Thomas Wheeler said: "MCI is attempting to impose on competitive wireless carriers regulations which it vigorously opposes having imposed on itself." He told us: "The danger is it's [amendment] going to disincent people to build." MCI said negotiations with carriers focus on resale agreements rather than equity purchases, company said. NCS is largest reseller, and other investments wouldn't have same benefits, source said. Inda said he expected company to sign additional agreements rapidly -- within 60-90 days. "This is a good initial jump [into market,] but by no means the full deployment," Inda told us. NCS acquisition gives MCI access to "good operating staff." MCI left wireless in 1986 with sale of its Air Signal cellular and paging unit to subsidiary of McCaw for $120 million. It had entered business in 1982, primarily supplying paging services in 35 markets and phone service in 12 cities. Inda said executives decided then that company "lacked critical mass" to make wireless successful venture. MCI skipped recent PCS auction, saying it preferred to concentrate on resale rather than invest in facilities. Transaction still requires approvals by MCI board and shareholders, Nationwide shareholders and state and federal agencies. NCS Chmn. Stephen Katz and other executives have agreed to vote their 25% stake in company in favor of deal. NCS board approved transaction, companies said. NCS had 1994 revenue of $213 million, with 275,000 business and residential customers in Baltimore, Boston, Chicago, L.A., Milwaukee, N.Y., Philadelphia, San Diego, San Francisco, D.C. ------------------------------ From: Stephen Croce Subject: Rates, Rates, Rates .... Date: 23 May 1995 03:27:34 GMT Organization: InternetMCI BYJV13A@prodigy.com (Douglas Kaspar) wrote: > When you examine Sprint's basic LD tariff vs. AT&T, their cost per > minute is identical to AT&T's across rate bands, time of day, etc. > MCI's basic LD tariff across the rate band's is .0001 cent per minute > less. The savings come in when your volumes increase, so beware of > the so called "savings". The rate game is so rediculous! For every person who says that Sprint's rates are only one cent a minute lower than AT&T's I can show you three people who say they've saved a ton of money by using their service. In fact one user on this newsgroup got 50 dollar credits and free air fare to Bermuda or something like that -- isn't that indeed worth something? Bottom line is -- what does your provider do for you today? Any of the companies can provide you with low rates - it's up to you to do what you need to do in order to get the best deal. Everyone is so hung up on what the rate per minute is -- price, price, price -- when was the last time anyone ever bought anything based on price and price alone? If I told you that I could sell you a pair of shoes for ten bucks -- would you buy them? How 'bout this? I'll sell you my car for 500 bucks -- wanna buy it? NO? Well, why not, its CHEAP isn't it? My point is that there is value to be had in telecommunications -- just like in anything else. If you're not seeing any value in your current company's services, you should speak to them or go with another carrier who will bring you this value. When you compare companies -- you should attempt to look beyong the rate per minute. ------------------------------ From: Dave.Leibold@superctl.tor250.org (Dave Leibold) Date: 22 May 95 20:29:20 -0500 Subject: Canadian Telephone/Cable Competition Policy Announced (The CRTC announced 19th May the recommended regulatory approach to be taken for dealing with the development of future services by the telephone and cable companies in Canada. The following is their news release on the subject (with approrpriate WWW references)) May 19, 1995 COMPETITION AND CULTURE ON CANADA'S INFORMATION HIGHWAY: MANAGING THE REALITIES OF TRANSITION OTTAWA/HULL -- The CRTC today recommended steps to accelerate lasting competition in the delivery of electronic information and programming services to Canadians. It also suggested new ways of keeping Canada on its own broadcasting system with strong Canadian programming. "We've received a clear message that consumers want greater choice and we believe that they should have it," said CRTC Chairman Keith Spicer. "Hundreds of Canadians who participated in our public processes also said that they want more windows on their own communities, as well as on the world, and the CRTC will actively support these objectives." "The Commission has already taken bold steps to increase competition in the delivery of broadcasting and telecommunications services, and it continues to share the vision of Government that further competition will stimulate choice, innovation and growth. We are not looking for ways to slow competition -- we'll be looking for ways to hasten it." "It is essential that barriers to competition arising as a result of the monopoly power or dominant position of telephone and cable companies be reduced. More choice should also be allowed in how programming services are packaged and distributed," Mr. Spicer affirmed. "If the future is to be driven by competition and technology, then we must ensure that it is *fair* and *sustainable* competition -- that is, lasting. We must get beyond slogans and recognize the realities of competition in Canada and manage this transition imaginatively and sensibly or we will end up with one or two mega-corporations controlling the creation and dissemination of information and entertainment," said Mr. Spicer. "We believe in competition that will benefit consumers and entrepreneurs in the long-term, not just for a year or two until one industry or competitor annihilates its rivals." "A more competitive model for both distribution and programming services must also take into account Canadian realities. If Canadians are to benefit from increased choice, entry should be managed in a manner that contributes to the Canadian broadcasting system and the development of quality programming," Mr. Spicer explained. "The citizens of Canada are more than just consumers. They are also and first of all Canadians, and as such they want to see Canadian values reflected in the programming and information available to them." The Commission's report to the Government on policy issues related to the information highway follows an intensive seven-month public consultation process during which the CRTC received 1,085 written comments and 78 participants intervened at a month-long oral public hearing in March. This public process was instituted pursuant to an Order in Council issued by the Government on October 11, 1994. In preparing its report, the Commission has been guided by a number of key principles, including: * Fair and sustainable competition requires that consumers have increased choice among distributors of telecommunications and broadcasting services, including cable, telephone, wireless, direct-to-home (DTH) satellite and others. * Barriers to competition in distribution must be removed so that both the public and content providers have affordable and non-discriminatory access to all distribution systems. * New programming services must contribute to increasing choice, diversity and innovation. The Commission recommends that there be no mandated transitional period before introducing full competition in the delivery of telecommunications and broadcasting services to Canadians. As indicated in the report, factors such as technology and market forces will create a natural transition period of about three to four years before telephone companies begin to establish any significant presence in the cable market. "However," Mr. Spicer said, "telephone companies should be permitted to enter the cable business as soon as inherent barriers to effective competition in local telephony are reduced. And we support, without delay, applications by other potential programming distributors." "We also support increased competition in programming. Video-on-demand services should be eligible for licensing as soon as non-preferential video-dial-tone tariffs are filed and approved," Mr. Spicer added. The report proposes mechanisms designed to remove existing barriers to competition, as well as safeguards to prevent anti-competitive practices and to ensure equitable access to the information highway. For example: * Implementation of the open access policy adopted in the Commission's Regulatory Framework Decision of September 1994 is a precondition to effective competition in the local telephone market and in all markets on the information highway. This policy is characterized by liberalized interconnection, co-location and unbundling requirements. * Programming services should be produced and distributed by separate companies to prevent preferential access to distribution networks and to ensure diversity and choice. (Structural separation, however, would not be required for non-programming services such as on-line services, home banking and Internet access.) * Cable company affiliates should not generally be authorized to operate, own or control programming services, other than over-the-air radio and television services, until there is sufficient capacity on cable networks and comprehensive access rules are in place to prevent preferential treatment. Increased reliance on market forces, however, must take into account the other objectives of broadcasting and telecommunications legislation from which the CRTC derives its mandate. The *Broadcasting Act* states that: "The Canadian broadcasting system should encourage the development of Canadian expression by providing a wide range of programming that reflects Canadian attitudes, opinions, values and artistic creativity, by displaying Canadian talent in entertainment programming and by offering information and analysis concerning Canada and other countries from a Canadian point of view..." (Section 3). The Canadian telecommunications policy has, as its objectives, to facilitate the development of a system that serves "*to safeguard, enrich and strengthen the social and economic fabric of Canada and its regions*" and "*to render reliable and affordable telecommunications services of high quality accessible to Canadians in both urban and rural areas...*" (Section 7 of the *Telecommunications Act*). The Commission, therefore, recommends the following: * Some form of subsidization, as well as cooperation between governments and shared use of network infrastructures by distributors, will be necessary in order to deliver the benefits of the information highway to every region in Canada, particularly in remote and underserved areas. * Programming services should continue to be licensed in a manner that takes into account market size and ensures that existing and future producers have sufficient resources to produce quality Canadian programming. * All broadcasting undertakings should make equitable and appropriate contributions to the production and distribution of Canadian cultural-content products and services. "It is essential that we maintain a Canadian broadcasting system offering quality programming which reinforces the sovereignty of our country and our own cultural identity," Mr. Spicer concluded. ------------------- Contact: Stephen Boissonneault, Director CRTC Public Affairs, Ottawa, Ontario, K1A 0N2 Tel: 819-997-0313, TDD: 819-994-0423, Fax: 819-994-0218 Internet address: http://www.crtc.gc.ca Copies of the Commission's report *Competition and Culture on Canada's Information Highway: Managing the Realities of Transition* are available through the public examination room at any of the following CRTC offices: City Telephone TDD Fax Halifax 902-426-7997 902-426-6997 902-426-2721 Montreal 514-283-6607 514-283-8316 514-283-3689 Ottawa/Hull 819-997-2429 819-994-0423 819-994-0218 Toronto 416-954-6273 416-954-8420 416-954-6343 Winnipeg 204-983-6306 204-983-8274 204-983-6317 Vancouver 604-666-2111 604-666-0778 604-666-8322 ----------------- Fidonet : Dave Leibold 1:250/730 Internet: Dave.Leibold@superctl.tor250.org ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 May 1995 08:08:40 -0400 From: Pratt, David C. Subject: Re: T1.403 ESF and CRC-6 Usefulness The CRC-6 is to many users the entire reason for using SF over ESF DS1s. The CRC-6 is a checksum calculated on the actual data transmitted in the payload (the 24 64 Kbs timeslots) of the DS1. It is a way to determine with complete accuracy that the data carried on the DS1 has not been corrupted. In the SF world it is not possible to do this. The CRC-6 is the basis for "path"-based performance monitoring parameters. One CRC-6 violation is a path coding violation, each second in which one happens is an errored second path, each second in which 1544 or more is a severely errored second path, each second after 10 SESP is an unavailable second, etc. Both SF and ESF DS1s share "line" parameters which are based on Bipolar Violations (BPVs). BPVs indicate a probability of data corruption but do not guarantee it. The bottom line is that you MUST transmit an accurate CRC-6 on an ESF DS1. If not it is likely that the far end will go into alarm based on an "unavailable seconds" condition. If you want to ignore the incoming CRC-6 that's your problem. This is assuming, of course, that the network is not set up for far-end performance monitoring which brings another set of contstraints. Dave Pratt Reliance Comm/Tec prattd@reu.reliance.sprint.com ------------------------------ From: jacques@physics.rutgers.edu (Pieter Jacques) Subject: Re: Flash! NYNEX WWWeb Site With Yellow Pages for New York Date: 22 May 1995 19:26:56 -0400 Organization: Rutgers University [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: This one seems to have caught everyone's eye. I got a couple dozen messages all saying almost the same thing. Here are a few of them. PAT] John R. Covert writes: > FLASH!! > http://www.vtcom.fr/nynex/ > Is a WWWeb interface to the NYNEX Yellow Pages, with links from the business > entries to their own web pages, when known. Why is NYNEX, a New York and New England based telephone company, using a web server in *France* for a WWW version of its New York and New England Yellow Pages? Pieter Jacques (jacques@ruhets.rutgers.edu) ------------------------------ From: dannyb@panix.com (danny burstein) Subject: Re: Flash! NYNEX WWWeb Site With Yellow Pages for New York Date: 22 May 1995 23:43:40 -0400 In John R. Covert writes: > http://www.vtcom.fr/nynex/ ^^^ ^^^^^^ to which dannyb@panix.com hastens to add: Fascinating that Nynex has to put their web server in France. Suggests something about something, but I'm not quite sure what ... dannyb@panix.com (or dburstein@mcimail.com) ------------------------------ From: root@henry.henry.net (root) Subject: Re: Flash! NYNEX WWWeb Site With Yellow Pages for New York Date: 23 May 1995 02:46:21 GMT Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA Why is Nynex setting up a web page in France? 8-) ------------------------------ From: KMP@portal.vpharm.com (K. M. Peterson) Subject: Re: Flash! NYNEX WWWeb Site With Yellow Pages for New York Date: 22 May 1995 17:17:59 GMT Organization: Vertex Pharmaceuticals Incorporated In article John R. Covert writes: > http://www.vtcom.fr/nynex/ Um ... okay... does anyone know why this is served out of _France_? K. M. Peterson [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I have not heard anything further from John Covert since he sent this in. Perhaps he will share whatever he knows on the topic with us. There were many more of these 'why located in France' messages than I included here. Do you think they have some kind of deal going on with Minitel perhaps? Is that a possibility? PAT] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 May 1995 09:34:52 -0400 From: HEIDI.SERVERIAN@gte.sprint.com Subject: Re: Last Laugh! Mike and Terry's Lawnmower Service Pat - One small correction to your note. GTE used to own Sylvania and several other electronics manufacturing businesses worldwide. GTE has sold off the electronics over the past years to concentrate on our core business of telecommunications. The consumer electronics (televisions and stereos) primarily went to Phillips and Magnavox. I forget who bought the lightbulb business in 1992 and 1993. GTE's vision is to expand from our strong base in wireline voice communications to market leadership in the new world of intergrated wireline and wireless voice, video and data communications, by offering customers products and prices that are competitive and service that is unmatched -- the easiest company to do business with in this industry. GTE has made a strong commitment to the telecommunications industry. We could debate the merits of any company which has grown up under a very paternalistic regulatory system. The fact of the matter remains that approximately 93% of all homes in the US have telephone service. Had telephone originally (100 years ago) been left as a competitive industry would we have achieved this level of service? I suggest that we would not have the same results today. In all likelihood, telephone would be a privilege for those with a certain amount of wealth, as opposed to a utility available to the masses. Was total rate of return regulation the best option available? Probably not, when was the last time the government used the best option. My knowledge of economics points toward some form of marginal rate of return or price regulation. Going forward, competition appears to be the best option for encouraging efficient use of resources and developing new technologies or new applications of technologies. However, since telephone (POTS at a minimum) is a *utility*, some mechanism needs to be in place to enable all people access to the network. Today we use subsidies such as the Universal Service Fund and Lifeline to try to reach all who wish to be connected. The regulated monopolies are required to provide service to all who apply (the worst credit risks may fall into special rules). Who will serve these customers in the future? Don't get me wrong; I am a strong capitalist. I also believe it is harmful to the capitalist economy to create a markedly disadvantaged underclass by cutting someone off from a basic need. Anyone on the net know how difficult it can be to get a job or credit without a telephone number? For all of the readers who believe the established LECs are incapable of doing it right, maybe it is time to reassess the situation. Look at the industry from a more forward view, rather than relying on history. Remember most of the knowledge and computer hardware/software that enables the huge leaps in telecommunications which we have seen were not even dreamed of 30 or 40 years ago. Just as IBM has had to reshape itself to the technological world it helped create, the LECs are learning a whole new game too. Sorry to have rambled so long, Pat. Thank you for providing a forum in which reasonable individuals can discuss and debate relevant issues. The Digest is one of my favorite morning routines. Heidi Serverian ------------------------------ From: rv01@gte.com (Robert Virzi) Subject: Re: Last Laugh! Mike and Terry's Lawnmower Service Date: 22 May 1995 19:16:04 GMT Organization: GTE Laboratories, Waltham, MA PAT said, in part: > Often times letter abbreviations simply take on a meaning of their own > and the original phrase they represented is forgotten. Does anyone > remember when ITT referred to 'International Telephone and Telegraph', > or when GTE meant 'General Telephone and Electronics'? In the case > of ITT at least, because of the many varied and diverse enterprises > the company got involved in (baking bread as one example), the name > was finally officially changed to simply the letters ITT. Likewise, > GTE makes lightbulbs among other things, with telephones now being just > a portion -- but a significant portion -- of their overall business. Pat - This is not an offical company response, however, GTE doesn't make lightbulbs anymore. Nor do we manufacture consumer electronics. GTE's businesses, near as I can recall, are: local telephone service, mobile telephone service, directory publishing, government contracting, and multi-media production including games. There are some other businesses also, but the first four are the lion's share of the revenue. Again, this is from memory. You may want to make this correction for your readers. Bob rvirzi@gte.com Just another ascii character... +1(617)466-2881 ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #251 ****************************** Received: from ns1.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa00101; 24 May 95 11:32 EDT Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA15295 for telecomlist-outbound; Tue, 23 May 1995 21:12:08 -0500 Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA15285; Tue, 23 May 1995 21:12:05 -0500 Date: Tue, 23 May 1995 21:12:05 -0500 From: TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson) Message-Id: <199505240212.VAA15285@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #252 TELECOM Digest Tue, 23 May 95 21:12:00 CDT Volume 15 : Issue 252 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Looking For Help Starting a Help Desk (Mandy E. Kinne) What's CAPI? Especially 'API' (Byung Wan Suh) Re: Telephone Voice "Broadcast" Software? (David K. Leikam) Re: Unusual RF Stories (Ed Ellers) Re: Unusual RF Stories (Scott D. Fybush) Re: Unusual RF Stories (Kevin Magloughlin) Re: Unusual RF Stories (Samir Soliman) Re: Connie Chung's Attitude About Oklahoma (Scot E. Wilcoxon) Re: Phree Phone in Chicago's Union Station - Still There? (Elana Beach) Re: Chicago Area Internet Providers Wanted (Kevin Kadow) Universal Freephone Update (Judith Oppenheimer) Re: Pac Bell Fixed it -- and Fast! (John Higdon) Re: Cell One/Boston (Christopher C. Stacy) Re: Flash! NYNEX WWWeb Site With Yellow Pages for New York (Phil Dampier) Re: Flash! NYNEX WWWeb Site With Yellow Pages for New York (K.M. Peterson) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of public service systems and networks including Compuserve and America On Line. It is also gatewayed to Usenet where it appears as the moderated newsgroup 'comp.dcom.telecom'. Subscriptions are available to qualified organizations and individual readers. Write and tell us how you qualify: * telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu * The Digest is edited, published and compilation-copyrighted by Patrick Townson of Skokie, Illinois USA. You can reach us by postal mail, fax or phone at: 9457-D Niles Center Road Skokie, IL USA 60076 Phone: 500-677-1616 Fax: 708-329-0572 ** Article submission address only: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu ** Our archives are located at lcs.mit.edu and are available by using anonymous ftp. The archives can also be accessed using our email information service. For a copy of a helpful file explaining how to use the information service, just ask. ************************************************************************* * TELECOM Digest is partially funded by a grant from the * * International Telecommunication Union (ITU) in Geneva, Switzerland * * under the aegis of its Telecom Information Exchange Services (TIES) * * project. Views expressed herein should not be construed as represent-* * ing views of the ITU. * ************************************************************************* Additionally, the Digest is funded by gifts from generous readers such as yourself who provide funding in amounts deemed appropriate. Your help is important and appreciated. A suggested donation of twenty dollars per year per reader is considered appropriate. See our address above. All opinions expressed herein are deemed to be those of the author. Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mandy E. Kinne Subject: Looking For Help Starting a Help Desk Date: Mon, 22 May 1995 10:16:11 -0400 Organization: Center for Machine Translation, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA I was recently hired by a company to start up a help desk. Every other time I have dne something like this the phone system was already in place. Not here, not now. Blah! One of my jobs is going to be researching and purchasing a new phone system that we can afford. Currently we have seven incoming voice lines running through Bell Centrex service. No local PBX or anything. What I am looking to do is streamline the calling process. I need to set up a menuing system, an audiotext system, voice mail and so forth. I've been looking at this software/hardware package from SpeechSoft. What I am curious about is can this system run off of a centrex service? Is it a good solution? Does anyone have any experience with it? A local provider has also been trying to sell us a Toshiba Strata DK280 as a solution. Does anyone know if this system has peripherals to handle audiotext? Is it a good system and so forth and or not. Any clue as to what I should be doing would be greatly appreciated. Also, any leads on introductory books on CTI and Telephony would be fantastic. I just wish I hadn't accepted this contract ... blah ------------------------------ From: bws@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu (Byung Wan Suh) Subject: What's CAPI? Especially 'API' Date: 22 May 1995 07:03:50 GMT Organization: The George Washington University, Washington DC Hello, world. I'd like to ask one simple question. I figured out that CAPI stands for COMMON-ISDN-API, but what's the API? Please let me know with direct email. Thanks in advance. Mr. Byung Wan Suh ADDRESSES: Graduate Teaching Fellow Internet(USA) -> bws@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu Dept. of Management Science Chollian(KOREA) -> The George Washington University bws0816@chollian.dacom.co.kr Washington, DC 20052 URL ->http://gwis2.circ.gwu.edu/~bws ------------------------------ From: dkl@crl.com (David K. Leikam) Subject: Re: Telephone Voice "Broadcast" Software? Date: 22 May 1995 20:19:28 -0700 Harold Hallikainen wrote: > Anyway, the school where I teach is interested in software > that would do something similar to a fax broadcast, but it would be > voice. They'd have a list of the students in a particular class and > if the class were cancelled, the system could call each of them and > let them know. It SEEMS like this could be an option on the school's > phone system (I don't remember who made it), since it does have voice > mail and all sorts of fancy features. But I'm wondering if there's > some simple PC software that could also do it. I'm running SuperVoice > 2 with a Maxtech voice/data/fax modem and am quite pleased with it. I > spoke with the publisher of SuperVoice yesterday and they did not have > any voice broadcast software. So, anything like this around? > SuperVoice 2 with modem was about $70. It'd be real nice to find > something in this price area. Well, nothing *I* am aware of, that I'd trust to do a halfway decent job. Thinking about the problems of reliability sorta starts me towards a fair sized headache ... (deep breath) I suppose we *could* build something like this, that you could expect, oh, an 80% reliability rate out of. But it would cost orders of magnitude more, even if you didn't want maintenance or support. If you think about the problems for a minute or two, you'll see why. (Did we get an answering machine? If so, do we have a beep yet? What kind of beep? Has the beep ended, and can we talk now? Did we get a forward to a pager? If so, what number to we tell 'em to dial.? Are we talking to a person? Is it the right person, i.e, do we want to do voice-recognition at all? Do we want to be interactive? Do we want to deal with the 30% of the population that doesn't have touch-tone service?) Take your desired cost, treble it, multiply by 10, and you're getting to the ballpark, honestly. And you'll still miss, about 20% of the time, no guarantees it'll do that well ... more likely it will end up in the $5-$10K area for acceptable performance. And no, that's not a bid. My interest is technical, I do NOT want to actually be responsible for this thing! Buddy, can you spare an Excedrin? ------------------------------ From: kd4awq@iglou.com (Ed Ellers) Subject: Re: Unusual RF Stories Organization: IgLou Internet Services Date: Tue, 23 May 1995 06:30:04 GMT TELECOM Digest Editor PAT wrote: > Many listeners know that the first FM station in the United States was > here in Chicago in 1941, when the Zenith Radio Corporation put station > WEFM on the air with exclusively classical music so that people who > were buying the (then new) style of radio with frequency modulation (FM) > would have something to listen to. Otherwise no one would buy an FM > radio since there were no stations 'like that' to listen to -- not in > the early 1940's at least. The station was named after the president of > Zenith at that time, a fellow named dward . cCormick. Actually that was Commander Eugene F. McDonald. Perhaps you were thinking of Colonel Robert R. McCormick, publisher of the {Chicago Tribune}? WEFM was almost certainly the first FM station in the Midwest, but it was by no means the first in the U.S. -- that was Major Armstrong's own W2XMN, outside New York City. (The first *commercial* FM station, according to the FCC, was WSM-FM in Nashville -- then called W47NV -- on January 1, 1941.) The Zenith station was originally an experimental operation called W9XZR on 42.8 MHz, apparently started around 1939; it became a commercial station in 1941 as W51C on 45.1 MHz, then became WWZR around 1944-45 when the special "channel number and city" FM calls were abolished. They finally moved to 99.5 MHz some time after 1946; when that happened Zenith started adding an unlabeled dot at that position on the dials of all their FM radios. I don't know when the WEFM call sign was adopted, other than that it was before FM stereo broadcasts began in 1961. (Of course the station is now WUSN -- I wonder what Commander McDonald would think of *those* initials on "his" station...:-) Zenith also had two experimental TV stations at different times. W9XZV was started in 1939, and became a commercial station as WTZR in the early 1940s. They kept their experimental status active and ran a small market test of a pay-per-view service around 1950-51 with 600 customers (all of whom were lent new Zenith TVs, the only make compatible with the PPV decoders). Some time after the test was over Zenith sold the station to CBS (allegedly at a very tidy profit); it's now WBBM-TV. The second was on channel 38 in the late 60s and early 70s (I've forgotten the call sign), and was used to test different scrambling systems for over-the-air pay TV. (I suspect the folks at Zenith wish they'd kept that operation -- when they were field testing Digital Spectrum Compatible HDTV in 1992 they ended up doing the broadcasts on WMVT, channel 36 in Milwaukee. WMVT usually can't be received around Chicago because of a low-power station on the same channel, but the HDTV tests came in fine at Zenith's lab in Glenview.) [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Thank you for the name correction and the additional historical data on FM radios. Yes, I did get my McCormicks and McDonalds mixed up. Colonel McCormick of the {Chicago Tribune} was a big factor in getting WGN 720-AM on the air in 1922, which was assigned those call letters in reference to the Tribune as the World's Greatest Newspaper. WLS went on the air in 1923 and its call letters reflected its owner's (Sears, Roebuck) status as the World's Largest Store. PAT] ------------------------------ From: fybush@world.std.com (Scott D Fybush) Subject: Re: Unusual RF Stories Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA Date: Tue, 23 May 1995 05:18:14 GMT Not to carry this thread too much farther than it merits here, but... The great frequency switch on AM happened on March 29, 1941. The goal of the new "North American Regional Broadcasting Agreement," or NARBA, was to create some new clear channels for Canada and Mexico, and to coordinate the expansion of the AM band from 1500-1600 kHz. WGN had never been on 730 -- it (along with most everything else below 720 kHz) stayed put at 720. Stations further up the dial were shifted 10, 20, 30, or even in some cases 40kHz to accomodate new Can/Mex clear channels at 730, 800, 900, 1010, and so forth. So for PAT's native Chicago, WMAQ stayed put at 670, WBBM went from 770 to 780, WLS/WENR from 870 to 890, WAAF from 920 to 950, WCFL from 970 to 1000, WMBI from 1080 to 1110, WJJD from 1130 to 1160, WCRW/WEDC/WSBC from 1210 to 1240, WGES from 1360 to 1390, and WEHS/WHFC from 1420 to 1450. Much more information can be gleaned from the NARBA page on the Boston Radio Archives web site -- set your URL to: ftp://radio.lcs.mit.edu/radio/bostonradio.html for more than you ever wanted to know about the history of Boston radio and radio in general. Scott Fybush - fybush@world.std.com ------------------------------ From: kmagloughlin@delphi.com Subject: Re: Unusual RF Stories Date: Tue, 23 May 95 06:27:50 -0500 Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice) Pat- You were writing about receiving a carrier on 660 Khz that turned out to be WBBM right there in Chicago. The explanation given about subtracting this from that gives 660 Khz is not really the answer in that situation. What you had there is a 2A-B mix occurance and most likely was happening in your receiver. If you multiply 720 by 2 and subtract 780, you end up with 660. I have to chase things like this routinely and an example of this was in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania on an amateur radio site that had both a two meter repeater and a packet base station in close proximity. The repeater transmitter was on 145.290 and the packet transmited on 144.990. The packet base caused no problems when it transmitted alone, nor did the repeater. However, if both transmitters were up at the same time, 2x144.990 - 145.29= the input of the repeater, 144.690. Since this was an on-frequency product, there was no option but to move one of the transmitters and the packet system did move to a site outside of Hershey. I believe in your instance, there may have been some mixing going on at the AM transmitter sites, but far more likely is the mixing was going on in your own receiver as it had a clear shot at both carriers at approximately the same signal stregnth. In my amateur example also, the packet held up the repeater for extended periods of time because the packet was the digipeater for the local amateur packet BBS system. Kevin Magloughlin KA0JQO KMAGLOUGHLIN@DELPHI.COM Watch for the new best seller _Chasing Sunsets_ [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: How does that explain the engineer at the station in North Carolina telling me he could hear the same thing as myself on the board over there when his AM station was off the air? PAT] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 May 1995 21:14:56 -0700 From: Samir Soliman Subject: Re: Unusual RF Stories TELECOM Digest Editor wrote: > ... I asked the engineer at WBBM about this and why he thought it might have > happened. His answer was, they and WGN sit very close together out in > the boondocks. So close together, that WGN picks up some of our signal > and send it out with theirs, and we pick up some of their signal and > send it out with ours. So, he said, if you note that we are at 780 and > they are at 720, that's a difference of 60 kc. Subtract 60 from 720 and > you get 660 ... hmmm ... > Now it used to be quite common to be able to hear WBBM at multiples all > the way up the tuning dial. At night I could hear them at 780 of course, > but also at 1560, 2340, and sometimes 3120 kc. I have never before nor > since ever heard them *below* their usual location. Radio waves can be > very weird and strange at times. PAT] If the signal is strong it compresses the front end of the reciver, causing the receiver to work in the non-linear region. What you saw is the third order IM product (2f1-f2), where f1 = 720 and f2 = 780. I bet you could have heard it also on 840. Samir Soliman ------------------------------ From: sewilco@fieldday.mn.org (Scot E. Wilcoxon) Subject: Re: Connie Chung's Attitude About Oklahoma Date: 23 May 1995 23:38:43 -0500 Organization: FieldDay I think our Moderator is straying a bit from telecom. Contributors, can you remember to try to find a little about telecom in the reports on the latest disaster? It is helpful to see how things going wrong are dealt with, and remember in this case it's how telecom problems are dealt with. I'm waiting for the telecom problems caused by the assault tank situation (not to be confused with problems involving lawful tank use). Scot E. Wilcoxon sewilco@fieldday.mn.org [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: By now probably everyone knows that Connie got fired. She no longer sits next to whats-his-name the Talking Head with her smile and her reports of dubious value. PAT] ------------------------------ From: elana@netcom.com (Elana who?) Subject: Re: Phree Phone in Chicago's Union Station - Still There? Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Tue, 23 May 1995 05:14:30 GMT > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I feel rather certain you were using the > unguarded, unattended phone of some employee who was not present at > his/her desk at the time of your visit. While you were there, did you > consider rifling through the desk drawers looking for things of value > which the occupant may have left there while out to lunch or in a meeting > or wherever people go when they are not at their desk? You would like to > return to the scene of the crime, eh? Sorry, dear Moderator, you can't truthfully accuse me of any crime here. The phone was in the WAITING AREA, the same room as me and the other lost Amtrak passengers. Neither it or I were anywhere NEAR any of the offices. Period. That is why I thought that it was pretty unique that they would have phree phones (there were TWO in that waiting room!) right in the midst of the chairs where the wayward passengers were sitting and waiting to be processed. They were plain, not marked (no signs) and there was not an employee desk anywhere within sight. We are talking passenger area, NOT an office area. > Well it is hard to say exactly *where* in the building you were at. > So much has changed over there, I would not begin to know where to > start looking for a phone such as you describe. Oh, THAT'S easy. Go to the station and ask where they direct the passengers who have missed their train connections! NO PROBLEM. :) (Betcha those phones have been "discovered" since then ... I'd be surprised if they are *still* sitting so easily on the tables in the waiting room since I saw them ...) Try asking an old-time Amtrak employee about the phones ... as in someone who would have been working in the lost-passenger area all the way back to 1990. Elana (who is NOT in the business of walking into other people's offices and using their phones w/o permission ... but DID like these phree phones in this public place which were like sitting ducks -- roasted on a platter and inviting you to dinner via Amtrak's blessing ... no shooting necessary) :) ------------------------------ From: kadokev@ripco.com (Kevin Kadow) Subject: Re: Chicago Area Internet Providers Wanted Organization: Ripco Internet BBS, Chicago Date: Tue, 23 May 1995 05:17:00 GMT In article , wrote: > Can anyone point me to a list of Internet providers in the Chicago, IL > area (708 area code)? There's actually over a dozen providers in and around Chicago, if you have gopher or web access, I maintain an index of providers with links to each provider's own information files: http://www.ripco.com/providers/ gopher.ripco.com > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: The first one which comes to mind is > mcs.net. It is operated by Karl Denninger. He is actually in 312 regards > his physical location on West Belmont Avenue, but I think he services > all of northern Illinois with ease. Try him out. PAT] Because of the "band" system for local calls used by Ameritech, you'll want to find a provider who's central office is within 8 miles of your central office -- otherwise you pay Ameritech by the minute, rather than a flat per-call rate. It gets worse -- _ALL_ outgoing calls on business lines are charged by the minute. kadokev@ripco.com Kevin Kadow FREE Usenet/Mail, inexpensive Internet - Ripco... Wearing white hats since 1983 Dialup:(312) 665-0065 | http://www.ripco.com/ | Telnet:foley.ripco.com ('info') ------------------------------ From: producer@pipeline.com (Judith Oppenheimer) Subject: Universal Freephone Update Date: 23 May 1995 11:57:24 -0400 Organization: Interactive CallBrand(TM) Pat, you asked. In advance of everyone's return from Tokyo, I was hearing from people in D.C., who'd stayed home, that they were getting glowing reports from the MCI spin patrol. Then reports started filtering in directly from the front. General comments: "Like a train through a chicken coop the draft was approved as stable. Very embarrassing. MCI chairman ran over everybody with objections. One guy said, he couldn't have done better with a machine gun. Date certain of December 1994 was approved but there are some MAJOR new glitches. It got heated with Engleman (MCI chair) literally yelling from the chair." Re User Contribution to strike non-ownership language, "Major battle on this. AT&T was a real pill as usual. They've got a lady who thinks she's Howard Stern and thinks by shouting "it doesn't matter" in an indignant tone she can have her way. This issue was sent to the ITU legal council for review." Some other problems: where there is a conflict among "priority applicants", there is no time parameter for resolution, nor for the "second choice" that priority applicants are supposed to be due. This is because the system, as delineated to date, calls for immediate release of all numbers. The whole thing is a joke. Incidentally, it's great for business. We've got users lining up for help so they at least have a shot at protecting their 800's. Ain't life grand. J. Oppenheimer, Producer@Pipeline.com Interactive CallBrand(TM) [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Thanks for the update. Please continue sending them as you receive them. PAT] ------------------------------ Organization: Green Hills and Cows Date: Mon, 22 May 1995 20:23:34 -0700 From: John Higdon Subject: Re: Pac Bell Fixed it -- and Fast! yazz@locus.com (Bob Yazz) writes: > I even got a call from someone at Pac Bell's "External Relations" > department. I hadn't contacted them, nor the PUC, nor any higher- > ups at Pac Bell, so I have to wonder if those folks read the TELECOM > Digest! You better believe folks at Pacific Bell read all of the telecom groups. Many of the contacts that I have within the company have come from people responding to my remarks made here and elsewhere. Don't ever let anyone tell you that airing your remarks in TELECOM Digest is a waste of time. Many chronic problems, as well as some annoying practices have evaporated within a short period after complaints have come to light in this forum. And the followup phone calls received from management have confirmed what lit the fire. John Higdon | P.O. Box 7648 | +1 408 264 4115 | FAX: john@ati.com | San Jose, CA 95150 | +1 500 FOR-A-MOO | +1 408 264 4407 | http://www.ati.com/ati | ------------------------------ From: cstacy@spacy.boston.ma.us (Christopher C Stacy) Subject: Re: Cell One/Boston Organization: Christopher C. Stacy Date: Tue, 23 May 1995 23:02:14 GMT Also, the Dedham switch crashed, resetting some people's voicemail to "none", so that you would just get the "has left the calling area" message instead of being transferred into voicemail. If the customer called the system to check the mailbox, everything appeared normal (except that there would be no mail waiting). There was no indication tht anything was amiss, and Cell One did nothing to inform anyone. I only found out because someone called me at home to ask me why I didn't have voicemail anymore. Then I called Cellular One, and they turned it back on for me. Presumably many other customers do not know that their voicemail is still disabled, and are missing calls. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 May 1995 13:24:44 -0400 From: philjohn@eznet.net (Phillip M. Dampier) Subject: Re: Flash! NYNEX WWWeb Site With Yellow Pages for New York > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I have not heard anything further from > John Covert since he sent this in. Perhaps he will share whatever he > knows on the topic with us. There were many more of these 'why located > in France' messages than I included here. Do you think they have some > kind of deal going on with Minitel perhaps? Is that a possibility? PAT] The {Rochester Democrat & Chronicle's} weekly online telecommunication column recently reviewed this service and implied that it was, indeed, cooperating with France's PTT/Minitel service for provision of the service. I don't believe this was explicitly stated, however. Additionally, the reviewer gave NYNEX very poor marks for its confusing, graphics-intensive (ie. slow for dial-up users) service. NYNEX listings for businesses in Rochester are very sparse, owing to the fact independent Rochester Tel holds on to their listings like someone in the Sahara holds on to a glass of water. ------------------------------ From: KMP@portal.vpharm.com (K. M. Peterson) Subject: Re: Flash! NYNEX WWWeb Site With Yellow Pages for New York Date: 23 May 1995 21:08:17 GMT Organization: Vertex Pharmaceuticals Incorporated > Do you think they have some kind of deal going on with Minitel > perhaps? Is that a possibility? PAT] I wrote them, and they replied: As for our host being located in France, the first online yellow pages service NYNEX launched (USACCESS) was launched in France due to legal restrictions imposed on us. When these restrictions were lifted, it allowed us to launch other services within the US. We are planning to move the host to the US. Thank you again. NIYP Customer Service [Very interesting...-KMP] K. M. Peterson ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #252 ****************************** Received: from ns1.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa27035; 24 May 95 3:36 EDT Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA16167 for telecomlist-outbound; Tue, 23 May 1995 22:02:32 -0500 Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA16159; Tue, 23 May 1995 22:02:30 -0500 Date: Tue, 23 May 1995 22:02:30 -0500 From: TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson) Message-Id: <199505240302.WAA16159@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #253 TELECOM Digest Tue, 23 May 95 22:02:20 CDT Volume 15 : Issue 253 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Auction All the Spectrum (Peter Huber via khh@access4.digex.net) X.25 Equipment Help Wanted (Michael Vakulenko) I Just Bought a CT2 Phone and I Love it (Eric Tholome) My Experiences With GTE's Tele-Go Service (Mark E. Daniel) Are 1-800-0xx-xxxx and 1-800-1xx-xxxx Numbers Possible? (Robert Casey) New Area Codes Announced (Steve Grandi) Re: What is the Exact Meaning of POTS? (Raymond Charles Jender) Re: What is the Exact Meaning of POTS? (Tony Waddell) Re: Meeting the Challenge (Mike McKinney) Re: Phone Monopolies (Lee Winson) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of public service systems and networks including Compuserve and America On Line. It is also gatewayed to Usenet where it appears as the moderated newsgroup 'comp.dcom.telecom'. Subscriptions are available to qualified organizations and individual readers. Write and tell us how you qualify: * telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu * The Digest is edited, published and compilation-copyrighted by Patrick Townson of Skokie, Illinois USA. 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This and other articles by Mr. Huber can be seen at http://khht.com/huber/home.html. THE FCC COULD HAVE A GOING-OUT-OF-BUSINESS SALE Copyright 1995 by Peter Huber. Electronic copies of this document may be distributed freely, provided that this notice accompanies all copies. ------------------ Here's how Congress can raise $10 billion a year and cut government at the same time. No new taxes. No phony accounting. No leveling the timber in national parks. No kidding. Economists have known for years that the best way to manage the airwaves is to sell them off in orderly parcels, and then let the market decide how best to use them. Recently, however, economists have been putting numbers to this argument. The numbers are stunning. Congress nationalized all radio spectrum in 1927. Ever since, the Federal Communications Commission has been zoning chunks for one use or another -- radio, paging, satellites, whatever happened to hit the commission's fancy -- and then assigning allotments to favored applicants who promised to use the spectrum accordingly. Until recently, no money changed hands, just political favor. The secondary market, however, gives us a good idea what those individual licenses are worth. When a company like McCaw sells to AT&T for $17 billion, it's easy enough to infer the value of the FCC licenses in the transaction. On that basis, the commercial spectrum currently used for broadcast, cellular telephone, satellite and so on is worth somewhere between $100 billion and $300 billion. If all spectrum were leased on long-term contracts rather than sold, it would generate additional federal revenues of $10 billion to $20 billion a year. This compares with $3 billion currently generated from offshore oil and gas leases and royalties, and $28 million generated from federal grazing fees. To its credit, the FCC recently took a first, reasonably successful, stab at selling off spectrum licenses. In the last 12 months, the various auctions of ten-year licenses of spectrum for so-called personal communications services (meaning: cellular phone service) have raised about $10 billion. The commission would have raised even more if ownership had been sold outright. The FCC and other government agencies are sitting on billions of dollars of additional bandwidth, which remains idle while federal bureaucrats ponder how to assign it. The creation of the cellular industry, which today generates $20 billion or so a year in revenue, was delayed for a decade while the FCC fretted about whether and how it should allocate spectrum to this newfangled use. It's a safe bet that there are other $20 billion industries just waiting for the FCC to awake from its slumber. Spectrum that has already been given away presents a more subtle financial opportunity. Buyers in the secondary market -- AT&T, for example -- can cogently argue that they already paid for their spectrum when they wrote a check to primary licensees like Craig McCaw. At this point there's no fair or politically feasible way for the government to reclaim those licenses. But even here, the FCC still has something very valuable to sell. The FCC never quite gave away spectrum to anyone -- it issued fixed-term licenses. The property, in theory, reverts to the FCC when the leases expire. At present, licensees spend lavishly on lawyers every time they renew or transfer a license. Quite often they have to buy off challengers who file objections for the sole purpose of legal extortion. Existing licensees would pay good money to convert their lease into ownership free and clear. Yet another way for the government to raise a chunk of money is to sell legal erasers. At present, spectrum licenses are strictly zoned. If you're licensed to do television, you may not use your spectrum to do wireless telephony. If the FCC authorized just one UHF television station in Los Angeles to transfer its spectrum to a third cellular provider, the overall public gain would be about $1 billion, or so the government itself estimated in 1992. Nextel was created in just this way, by an entrepreneur who bought up taxi dispatch licenses and then persuaded the FCC to rezone them for digital radio services. Deleting a few lines of legal boilerplate from all outstanding FCC licenses would create tens of billions of dollars of new national wealth. Which means that the rights to erase that boilerplate are immensely valuable. They, too, can be sold. Sold they should be. These rights are currently in the wrong hands. While the FCC owns them, they just make work for bureaucrats and inflate the FCC's already bloated $200 million annual budget. The opportunity here is almost too good to be true. A single, clean piece of dezone-and-auction legislation will raise money, shrink government and unleash private enterprise on the wireless lanes of the infobahn industry. Someone should write it. ------------------------------ From: michaelv@qualcomm.com (Michael Vakulenko) Subject: X.25 Equipment Help Wanted Date: 23 May 1995 12:53:42 GMT Organization: Qualcomm Israel Hi, We are looking for X.25 switch (DCE) equipment for our project. Please, advise where we could find such an equipment. Any relevant information will be appreciated. Please, respond by e-mail. Thanks in advance, Michael Vakulenko, Voice: +972-4-577999 Software Engineer, Fax: +972-4-577998 Qualcomm Israel, Ltd. Email: michaelv@qualcomm.com ------------------------------ From: tholome@dialup.francenet.fr (Eric Tholome) Subject: I Just Bought a CT2 Phone and I Love It Date: Tue, 23 May 1995 21:10:26 +0200 I thought I'd let you know that I just bought a CT2 phone (digital cordless phone) and I love it. Actually, I already had the handset and was using it from time to time in the street (France Telecom offers a CT2 public service in and around Paris). A few days ago, I just bought my personal base station. It's amazing: it is sold with a range of around 1000 feet, just like most old CT0 phones. But unlike old CT0 phones, which actually start being noisy when you're just one room away from your base station, my new CT2 base station will let me call from anywhere in my flat. What's more, I can even call from 3 floors below, and from several hundred feet outside, with a perfect sound quality. With all the features (takes about 3 hours to configure it!), plus the privacy and security of a digital technology, it is really worth its price. Is CT2 popular in the U.S.A.? Eric Tholome 23, avenue du Centre tholome@dialup.francenet.fr 78180 Montigny le Bretonneux phone: +33 1 30 48 06 47 France fax: same number, call first! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 May 95 04:15:35 EST From: mark@legend.akron.oh.us (Mark E. Daniel) (Mark E. Daniel) Subject: My Experiences With GTE's Tele-Go Service Greetings everyone. You may remember my posts about GTE Tele-Go service from a while ago. Now that I've had it for a while I have some comments to make. They say one can use his/her cell phone as a cordless while at home, with a little gadget called an Enhanced (ha!) Cordless Base Station., You may remember I mentioned this before. Finally I got the ECB. It didn't work. You are supposed to authorize your cell phone with the ECB before you can use it. Mine wouldn't authorize. I called, days past. I called again. This time I was given a access charge credit for my troubles. Finally someone called. But it was on a day when I wasn't home. A few more days past. Finally I was home when the guy called. So he comes out and reprograms my cell handset and the ECB. So now the thing authorizes. Of course I find out that you can not simply hook your ECB to the phone line (and this is *wierd*). You have to use one of those handy two-jack-in-one deals from Radio Shack and hook a standard phone to one site, and the ECB to the other. I can't find anyone who can explain *why* this is necessary, or what the ECB uses the phone for. But they say it won't work if you don't do it this way. A thought I just had is that perhaps the ECB does not have the capacity to dial and perhaps the phone is used to complete the part of the call which is set up via my POTS line. It works the same as when it's in cell mode. You just dial and then the number is sent to the cell site (in this case the ECB) and then the ECB goes off-hook and presumably dials the number. The sound quality is not as good as when you use the cell-mode. It sounds *very* far away and not very loud. But it gets a little worse. The ECB dropped all my calls at varying times. And I tried a little experiment. When one is in the range of their ECB, all calls to their cellular number are to get forwarded to their POTS line. The phone ("handset") in question is an Oki Telecom 1150. You can press Menu and the Green "dial tone" button to have the phone use cell-mode instead of the ECB. I have call forwarding on my cellular account. I wanted to see if forwarding my calls would have any effect on the ECB forwarding. It did. It simply quit working. I tried deactivating it and all that did was go to the "Your call can not be completed at this time..." intercept. Morning comes. I call GTE Mobilnet to tell them of my problems. Re: The call dropping they say I have an outdated ECB and they'll have to replace it. I inform them that my ECB forwarding quit working and they come back and quote me the number I had forwarded my cellular to. Wow I said. I tell the rep of my experiment and she then comes and tells me that my cell phone was not programmed with the ECB forwarding number and that I had used an improper code to deactivate the forwarding. Although the Fine Manual said to use *730, she said that *720 is proper. Both of them give confirmation tones when dialed even though the only custom calling feature I have is forwarding. So I get impatient and take the ECB back to a GTE store. They've sent an order for a new updated ECB that doesn't drop calls to be sent to me. Reason they gave for the old one dropping calls was a reaction to line noise. :-). So.... The guy at the store who looked at my phone and ECB said the phone was programmed fine, dispite what the other person said. Then how the hell does all this work? :-). Does the ECB intercept a celular signal and reroute the call to my POTS line? ECB forwarding BTW is free of airtime charges (when it works). So then are there any alternitives? When I'm using the cell phone "on the go", I pay only .25/min regardless of time of day. and only $19.95/mo access charge. But the service area is limited to the 216 area code. They say I can use national Roamer's Network to make calls out of my service area, but that it's pricey and charges via a credit card. Can anyone tell me how that works? Can anyone give me .25/min when in the local area and some other imflated rate when "roaming"? But with incomming privlanges as well? Or is it simply not possible and I'm a nut for thinking it should be? Mark E Daniel (Loving SysOp of The Legend BBS) Inet: mark@legend.akron.oh.us medaniel@delphi.com (Direct INet) 521 Shannon CT Akron OH 44312-2276 BBS/FAX: +1 216 733 9121 v: 3245 Pager : +1 216 320 0174 ------------------------------ From: wa2ise@netcom.com (Robert Casey) Subject: Are 1-800-0xx-xxxx and 1-800-1xx-xxxx Numbers Possible? Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest) Date: Tue, 23 May 1995 03:12:20 GMT Can the phone system support toll free 1-800 numbers of the format 1-800-0xx-xxxx and/or 1-800-1xx-xxxx? I know you never see exchanges in regular area codes starting with 0 or 1, but, as far as I know, one phone in the "800" "area code" can't just dial seven digits to reach another phone in 1-800. Not like phones in regular area codes. So, it seems that the phone system would not get confused with 1-800-0xx-xxxx or 1-800-1xx-xxxx. This could add an extra 1/5 possible numbers to 1-800 toll free service. What have I missed? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 May 1995 11:25:47 -0700 From: grandi@noao.edu (Steve Grandi) Subject: New Area Codes Announced Bellcore seems to have made a batch of assignments lately: 1) According to the {St. Louis Post Dispatch}, AC 573 has been assigned to the upcoming split or overlay of AC 314 (to take place in February 1996). The Missouri Public Services Commission is holding hearings on the split vs. overlay question. 2) According to the {Cleveland Plain Dealer}, AC 330 has been assigned to an upcoming split of AC 216. The nature of the split is still uncertain but Cleveland will retain 216. The timescale is quoted to be the end of 1995 or early 1996. 3) Ian Fisher (ifisher@unixg.ubc.ca) reports in alt.dcom.telecom that the {Vancouver Sun} reports that AC 250 has been assigned for a split of AC 604. The Greater Vancouver area will retain 604; implementation will begin in October 1996. Who is next? According Bellcore's "number exhaustion list" AC 818 in the Los Angeles metro area, AC 210 in S. Texas (including San Antonio) and AC 318 in Louisiana are getting close to splits. [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: And of course we here in 708 got bypassed entirely with the pending split to 630, and the northern suburbs of Chicago will be in 847 sometime next year. PAT] ------------------------------ From: Raymond.Charles.Jender@att.com Subject: Re: What is the Exact Meaning of POTS? Organization: AT&T NSC, 2600 Warrenville, Lisle, IL Date: Tue, 23 May 1995 15:55:07 GMT > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I think the last word is 'service' rather > than 'system'. A minor distinction perhaps, perhaps not.

lain ld > elephone ervice or POTS usually refers to the use of just one or > two lines with just regular instruments and no bells or whistles. POTS > lines would not have any of the newer custom calling features for > example. POTS always refers to the humble and simple service of any single > subscriber, not to the system or network as a whole. PAT] Pat, In my world of telephony, we use POTS to differentiate from a Centrex line also ... for testing purposes in the labs, we order our test lines by POTS or Centrex. [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: So maybe it just is relative to whatever is going on in the industry. Any simple and unadorned arrangement will be called POTS when compared to a more elaborate version of the same thing. Would you say that is correct? PAT] ------------------------------ From: aawadde@pb1.PacBell.COM (Tony Waddell) Subject: Re: What is the Exact Meaning of POTS? Date: Tue, 22 May 1995 16:22:25 GMT Organization: Pacific Bell > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I think the last word is 'service' rather > than 'system'. A minor distinction perhaps, perhaps not.

lain ld > elephone ervice or POTS usually refers to the use of just one or > two lines with just regular instruments and no bells or whistles. POTS > lines would not have any of the newer custom calling features for > example. POTS always refers to the humble and simple service of any single > subscriber, not to the system or network as a whole. PAT] Pat, you could well be correct, because I've heard Plain Old Telephone Service referred to as POTS for quite some time now. But when I was in the business office too many years ago, we service reps used to get "credit" for selling the newer type telephones: touch tone, slimline, DesignLine, etc. When a customer just wanted the standard dial phone, s/he was getting a

lain ld elephone et. (We did have color phones and I vaguely recall that we may even have charged extra for them, but I didn't work there so long ago that "the customer could get any color they wanted as long as it was black"). Back then, there wern't a lot of options for the "service" end, (at least for residential customers), so almost everyone got plain old telephone SERVICE by default. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 May 1995 19:17:55 -0500 From: mikem@i-link.net (Mike McKinney) Subject: Re: Meeting the Challenge John Higdon, in issue #249, writes: > The following remarks concern the history, practices, and policies of > Pacific Bell and do not necessarily reflect any aspect of any of the > other RBOCs. However, I suspect that there may be aspects of these > observations that do apply in one way or another. Come on John, you can't hide behind this thin of a disclaimer ! He later says: > As telcos across the nation were rolling out 976 services to > providers, Pac*Bell followed suit. However, the PB powers-that-be > looked at all these potential competitors (to its failed chat line) > and hedged its bets. Exercising its power as owner and controller of > the network, yet hiding behind the PUC tariffs that the company itself > wrote, Pac*Bell offered 976 services to information providers with > incredible conditions attached. > A provider had to place an incredible cash deposit with the written > service installation order, usually several thousand dollars. The > installation site had to have "excess facilities" which meant that any > 976 lines had to be installed on pairs that would never conceivably be > used for POTS. The site had to be located within some arbitrary > perimeter of the specific 976-serving office. A cash deposit is required on *any* major installation that requires capitol investment on a Telco's part, either that or a letter of guarantee that the service will be used long enough to recover the cost. This will probably change with real competiton because there will no doubt be companies that will do it just for the monthly service charges. As an aside to that there will probably be a lot of competitors that fail because of poor choices in who they try to serve. It will be a gamble: some will win, some will lose and only the biggest or the most astute will survive. As regards to other installation requirements, I have no idea what he means by "The installation site had to have "excess facilities" which meant that any 976 lines had to be installed on pairs that would never conceivably be used for POTS." Perhaps John could explain his comment. It's obvious that John knows nothing about the technical side of the telephone business because any time you go outside the walls of the CO you're going to have physical requirements: simple physics determines how far you can push a given signal across a given facility and simple economics determines how much money to spend to push it any further. If it costs more to push the signal than the signal costs, there is no profit in it. Again, this could change. And again this could be the downfall of many companies. Won't those people who go with the lowest price be thrilled when there 'real' cost doubles (or more) because their provider folds and they have to install the service a second time (and a third, fourth, etc.: providers will not be the only ones gambling). Mike McKinney SW Bell Austin, TX mikem@i-link.net [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: To the contrary, I think John Higdon has a very excellent knowledge of the technical side of this business. And unlike yourself, I cannot imagine a provider going out of business without making arrangements for its existing customer base to be serviced by some other remaining provider. I guess it is possible, but I suspect a new law might be put on the books saying that existing customer bases had to be dealt with by the remaining companies, etc. PAT] ------------------------------ From: turner7@pacsibm.org (Lee Winson) Subject: Re: Phone Monopolies Date: 24 May 1995 01:03:40 GMT Organization: PACS IBM SIG BBS As a small-time POTS customer, I am interested in the highest quality service at the lowest possible price. I don't really care if that's delivered by competition or a regulated monopoly. If it's more economical for a local telephone company to deliver a service or product (due to economies of scale or expertise), then why not let it deliver it? For instance, Bell Atlantic charges me cheaper toll rates than the LD carriers, but Bell is not allowed to provide long distance service between its own customers if it crosses LATA lines. Why shouldn't Bell be allowed to provide such service? And if competing PBX/DID manufacturers can't compete against a Bell centrex system, should the Bell company be handcuffed or criticized? There are certain economies of scale of doing everything in one place (which is why the system became a monopoly in the first place.) I am glad I can own my own equipment. But it's interesting how I find myself seeking Western Electric brand phones instead of newer stuff -- I find they're more reliable and durable than the "AT&T" brand or anything else (and I hate chime ringers). As to customer-owned coin phones, I believe they are tremendous ripoffs. The tiny little instruction card is usually misleading and the prices charged are always higher than Bell coin phones. Now why is that? (Anybody involved in this, please, please comment.) [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: They are higher priced because the owner has to pay the same for the telco connection as the telco charges itself for its own coin phones. He is not running a charity, or a Union Station phree phone (like Elana discussed). He wants to make a profit for himself and telco is detirmined to get their profit one way or another out of it also. So he has to charge more in order to be able to siphon off some for himself. Another reason they are usually higher priced is because the COCOT owner will put in a phone many times where telco will not put one in. If telco cannot make a profit from a public phone, then it won't be there in most instances unless someone else is willing to have a 'semi-public' coin phone there, allow telco to keep all the money -- paying no commissions to the owner of the property -- AND pay a monthly fee, typically ten or fifteen dollars, for having the pay phone there. The COCOT guy in the meantime goes in the same place, offers to put a phone there and pay commmissions to the proprietor. Where do those commissions come from? That's why COCOT phones typically cost more to use, but granted, they are a ripoff to most of us. For the poor person living in a ghetto slum where the only available pay phone is the COCOT at the corner liquor store or lottery agent however, it is probably a lifesaver at times and worth the cost. PAT] ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #253 ****************************** Received: from ns1.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa10795; 24 May 95 16:00 EDT Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id IAA22878 for telecomlist-outbound; Wed, 24 May 1995 08:07:15 -0500 Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id IAA22869; Wed, 24 May 1995 08:07:12 -0500 Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 08:07:12 -0500 From: TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson) Message-Id: <199505241307.IAA22869@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #254 TELECOM Digest Wed, 24 May 95 08:07:00 CDT Volume 15 : Issue 254 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Cox Amendment to Limit Universal Service to Voice Telephone (M. Solomon) Re: I Just Bought a CT2 Phone and I Love It (Jan Joris Vereijken) Re: T1.403 ESF and CRC-6 Usefulness (Al Varney) Re: What is the Exact Meaning of POTS? (Jamie Mason) Re: What is the Exact Meaning of POTS? (Gareth J. 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Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 00:56:30 -0400 From: Monty Solomon Subject: Cox Amendment to Limit Universal Service to Voice Grade Telephone Reply-To: monty@roscom.COM Submitted FYI: Begin forwarded message: TAP-INFO - An Internet newsletter available from listproc@tap.org TAXPAYER ASSETS PROJECT - INFORMATION POLICY NOTE May 23, 1995 - Representative Christopher Cox (R-CA) may offer amendment to limit universal service to voice grade telephone service. - Amendment may lead to higher residential ISDN tariffs James Love (202/387-8030; love@tap.org) TAP During the May 17, 1995 House Subcommittee on Telecommunications and Finance mark-up on HR 1555, Representative Christopher Cox (R-CA, voice 202/225-5611; fax 202/225-9177, staff David Sachs) offered an amendment that would have limited payments from a universal service fund to voice grade telephone services that are generally available on the date the Act passes. The Cox amendment specifically would have deleted language that would have defined universal service to include: "access to advanced telecommunications services and capabilities." The controversy concerns the new way that telecommunications services will be priced to consumers. At present, most states have monopoly local exchange carriers, which charge prices set by state regulators to reflect universal service goals, such as lower tariffs for residential consumers. As Congress seeks to promote competition for local telephone service, it is setting up a mechanism to support universal service that will be funded by "equitable and nondiscriminatory contributions" by all telecommunications providers. These funds will be used to support universal service goals. The issue of how the money will be spent will be decided later. In the House bill, the decisions will be made by a joint board composed of federal and state regulators plus a state consumer advocate. It is anticipated that universal service funds will be used to lower the cost of residential telecommunications services, by lowering the allocation of joint infrastructure costs paid for by residential consumers. By limiting the contributions to voice grade services, Representative Cox would treat residential ISDN services (or other digital technologies) differently than residential voice grade services. Because ISDN or other digital technologies would not receive any universal service contributions at all, the cost of providing the ISDN service would be both the incremental cost of the providing the technology and the loss of the universal service contribution. This is likely to lead to higher ISDN tariffs for some residential consumers -- particularly where state regulatory commissions have sought to provide lower ISDN residential tariffs. Representative Rick Boucher (D-VA) objected to the Cox amendment, as freezing technology at present levels. Cox staffers say he is trying to freeze regulation, not technology. The matter was tabled until the full Commerce Committee mark-up on the 24th. TAP VIEW TAP opposes the Cox amendment on universal service. We believe the Joint Board should have the authority to redefine universal service according to the broader public interest criteria included in the original bill, and we believe that high speed ISDN connections should be included in universal service. Below is the original language for universal service, the Cox amendment, and contact information for the Commerce Committee. ORIGINAL LANGUAGE ON UNIVERSAL SERVICE AND COX AMENDMENT TO UNIVERSAL SERVICE. 1. ORIGINAL LANGUAGE `SEC. 246. UNIVERSAL SERVICE. `(a) Joint Board To Preserve Universal Service . - Within 30 days after the date of enactment of this part, the Commission shall convene a Federal-State Joint Board under section 410(c) for the purpose of recommending actions to the Commission and State commissions for the preservation of universal service in furtherance of the purposes set forth in section 1 of this Act. In addition to the members required under section 410(c), one member of the Joint Board shall be a State-appointed utility consumer advocate nominated by a national organization of State utility consumer advocates. (b) Principles . - The Joint Board shall base policies for the preservation of universal service on the following principles: (1) Just and reasonable rates . - A plan adopted by the Commission and the States should ensure the continued viability of universal service by maintaining quality services at just and reasonable rates. (2) Definitions of included services; comparability in urban and rural areas . - Such plan should recommend a definition of the nature and extent of the services encompassed within carriers` universal service obligations. Such plan should seek to promote access to advanced telecommunications services and capabilities, and to promote reasonably comparable services for the general public in urban and rural areas, while maintaining just and reasonable rates. (3) Adequate and sustainable support mechanisms. - Such plan should recommend specific and predictable mechanisms to provide adequate and sustainable support for universal service. (4) Equitable and nondiscriminatory contributions . - All providers of telecommunications services should make an equitable and nondiscriminatory contribution to the preservation of universal service. (5) Educational access to advanced telecommunications services . - To the extent that a common carrier establishes advanced telecommunications services, such plan should include recommendations to ensure access to advanced telecommunications services for students in elementary and secondary schools. (6) Additional principles . - Such other principles as the Board determines are necessary and appropriate for the protection of the public interest, convenience, and necessity and consistent with the purposes of this Act. (c) Definition of Universal Service . - In recommending a definition of the nature and extent of the services encompassed within carriers universal service obligations under subsection (b)(2), the Joint Board shall consider the extent to which - (1) a telecommunications service has, through the operation of market choices by customers, been subscribed to by a substantial majority of residential customers; (2) such service or capability is essential to public health, public safety, or the public interest; (3) such service has been deployed in the public switched telecommunications network; and (4) inclusion of such service within carriers` universal service obligations is otherwise consistent with the public interest, convenience, and necessity. The Joint Board may, from time to time, recommend to the Commission modifications in the definition proposed under subsection (b). (d) Report; Commission Response . - The Joint Board convened pursuant to subsection (a) shall report its recommendations within 270 days after the date of enactment of this part. The Commission shall complete any proceeding to act upon such recommendations and to comply with the principles set forth in subsection (b) within one year after such date of enactment. 2. COX AMENDMENT Change SEC. 246.(b)(2) Definitions of included services, to read: (inserted language in caps] (2) Definitions of included services; comparability in urban and rural areas . - Such plan should recommend a definition of the nature and extent of the services encompassed within carriers` universal service obligations THAT IS BASED ON BASIC VOICE-GRADE LOCAL TELEPHONE SERVICE EQUIVALENT TO THE SERVICE GENERALLY AVAILABLE TO RESIDENTIAL SUBSCRIBERS ON THE DATE OF ENACTMENT OF THIS PART. Such plan should seek to promote [STRIKE: access to advanced telecommunications services and capabilities, and to promote] reasonably comparable services for the general public in urban and rural areas, while maintaining just and reasonable rates. STRIKE all of SEC. 246(c), Definition of Universal Service. Committee on Commerce PHONE FAX REPUBLICANS Bliley, Thomas,Chmn (VA) 225-2927 225-0011 Moorhead,Carlos(CA) 225-4176 226-1279 Fields, Jack 226-2424 226-4105 Oxley, Michael(OH)v-c 225-2676 226-1160 Bilirakis, Michael(FL) 225-5755 225-4085 Schaefer,Dan(CO) 225-7882 225-7885 schaefer@hr.house.gov Barton,Joe(TX) 225-2002 225-3052 Hastert,Dennis(IL) 225-2976 225-0697 dhastert@hr.house.gov Stearns,Cliff (FL) 225-5744 225-3973 cstearns@hr.house.gov Paxon,Bill(NY) 225-5260 225-5910 Gillmor,Paul(OH) 225-6405 225-1985 Klug,Scott(WI) 225-2906 225-6942 Franks, Gary (CT) 225-3822 225-5085 Greenwood, Jim (PA) 225-4276 225-9511 Crapo, Michael (ID) 225-5531 225-8216 Cox,Christopher(CA) 225-5611 225-9177 Burr, Richard (NC) 225-2071 225-2995 Bilbray, Brian (CA) 225-2040 225-2948 Whitefield, Ed (KY) 225-3115 225-3547 Ganske, Greg (IA) 225-4426 225-3193 Frisa,Dan(NY) 225-5516 225-3187 Norwood, Charlie (GA) 225-4101 225-3397 White,Rick(WA) 225-6311 225-3524 repwhite@hr.house.gov Coburn,Tom(OK) 225-2701 225-3038 DEMOCRATS Dingell, John(MI) 225-4071 Waxman, Henry(CA) 225-3976 225-4099 Markey, Edward(MA) 225-2836 225-1716 Tauzin,W.J.(Billy)(LA) 225-4031 225-0563 Wyden, Ron(OR) 225-4811 225-8941 Hall, Ralph(TX) 225-6673 225-3332 Bryant, John(TX) 225-2231 225-0327 Boucher, Rick(VA) 225-3861 225-0442 ninthnet@hr.house.gov Manton, Tom(NY) 225-3965 225-1909 tmanton@hr.house.gov Towns, Edolphus(NY) 225-5061 225-1018 Studds, Gerry(MA) 225-3111 225-2212 Pallone, Frank(NJ) 225-4671 225-9665 Brown, Sherrod(OH) 225-3401 225-2266 Lambert Lincoln,Blanche(AR) 225-4076 225-4654 Gordon, Bart(TN) 225-4231 225-6887 Furse, Elizabeth(OR) 225-0855 225-9497 Deutsch, Peter(FL) 225-7931 225-8456 Rush, Bobby(IL) 225-4372 226-0333 Eshoo, Anna(GA) 225-8104 225-8890 annagram@hr.house.gov Klink, Ron(PA) 225-2565 226-2274 ------------------------------------ TAP-INFO is an Internet Distribution List provided by the Taxpayer Assets Project (TAP). 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Box 19367, Washington, DC 20036 v. 202/387-8030; f. 202/234-5176; internet: tap@tap.org ------------------------------ From: janjoris@win.tue.nl (Jan Joris Vereijken) Subject: Re: I Just Bought a CT2 Phone and I Love It Date: 24 May 1995 14:07:07 +0200 Organization: Eindhoven University of Technology, the Netherlands Reply-To: janjoris@acm.org (Jan Joris Vereijken) Eric Tholome wrote: > I thought I'd let you know that I just bought a CT2 phone (digital cordless > phone) and I love it. > ... > new CT2 base station will let me call from anywhere in my flat. What's > more, I can even call from 3 floors below, and from several hundred > feet outside, with a perfect sound quality. With all the features > (takes about 3 hours to configure it!), plus the privacy and security > of a digital technology, it is really worth its price. Yes, CT2 *is* wonderful! I have one too ;-) Did you know that in The Netherlands there is a very substantial CT2 network? It's called "Greenpoint" (formerly "Kermit"), and it's operated by PTT Telecom. I live in Amsterdam, and they have set up so many base stations that I don't even bother to remember the locations anymore. I just count on getting a signal when I want to call. And 9 out of 10 times I do! Can you tell me how large the French network (it's called "BeBop", isn't it?) is? I'm considering to have the roaming option enabled, so I can use the phone when I'm over there. By the way, the U.K. used to have *four* (correct me if I'm wrong) CT2 networks, but all have stopped operations. Damn! Enjoy your phone, Jan Joris ------------------------------ From: varney@usgp4.ih.att.com (Al Varney) Subject: Re: T1.403 ESF and CRC-6 Usefulness Organization: AT&T Network Systems Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 05:17:09 GMT In article , Pratt, David C. wrote: > The bottom line is that you MUST transmit an accurate CRC-6 on an ESF > DS1. If not it is likely that the far end will go into alarm based on > an "unavailable seconds" condition. If you want to ignore the incoming > CRC-6 that's your problem. So you can't build a cheap DS0 drop/add for ESF without reconstructing the CRC. Is that what you had in mind? Al Varney ------------------------------ From: g1jmason@cdf.toronto.edu (Jamie Mason) Subject: Re: What is the Exact Meaning of POTS? Organization: University of Toronto, Computing Disciplines Facility Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 04:25:36 GMT Raymond.Charles.Jender@att.com writes: > In my world of telephony, we use POTS to differentiate from a Centrex > line also ... for testing purposes in the labs, we order our test lines > by POTS or Centrex. I have also seen POTS to mean the provision of regular single-line telephone service, as separate from all the custom calling features associated with it. This reminds me of the routine that one goes through when ordering (regular) telephone service. First, one makes the order for the service itself: address, number of lines, directory listing, and billing arrangements, as well as making an appointment for physical installation, if necessary. This is the arrangement for POTS. Second, the rep tries to sell you some custom calling features. (Or, if you're on the ball, you tell him exactly what you want ...) I have heard this part being called, in jest, the arangement for PANS; a pun on POTS, of course! I don't remember exactly what the acronym was purported to stand for: I think it was something very silly along the lines of "Pretty And Nice Stuff". :-) Jamie ------------------------------ From: Gareth J. Evans Subject: Re: What is the Exact Meaning of POTS? Date: 24 May 1995 11:00:20 +0100 Organization: Sectel > I was wondering whether any of the Digest Readers, or you Pat, could > explain me what exactly POTS means. POTS - Plain Ordinary Telephone System PANS - Potentially Attractive New Services CUPS - Customer Unspecified Private Services Gareth Evans gae@sectel.com Tel +44 1285 655 766 Fax +44 1285 655 595 ------------------------------ From: carlson@xylogics.com (James Carlson) Subject: Re: What's CAPI? Especially 'API' Date: 24 May 1995 07:06:31 -0400 Organization: Xylogics Incorporated Reply-To: carlson@xylogics.com In article , bws@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu (Byung Wan Suh) writes: > I'd like to ask one simple question. I figured out that CAPI stands for > COMMON-ISDN-API, but what's the API? Please let me know with direct > email. Thanks in advance. It's a relatively simple message-queue based interface for application programs which want to communicate via ISDN. I got my copy of the spec from ITK GmbH (Emil-Figge-Str. 80 / D-44227 Dortmund). The spec was originally developed in Germany, and is distributed by: DBP Telekom Fernmeldeamt Bad Kreuznach Projekt ROLAND Postfach 9100 Wilhelmstr. 6 GERMANY 55543 Bad Kreuznach tel 0671 / 83 33 0 fax 0671 / 96 69 99 James Carlson Tel: +1 617 272 8140 Annex Software Support / Xylogics, Inc. +1 800 225 3317 53 Third Avenue / Burlington MA 01803-4491 Fax: +1 617 272 2618 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 May 95 23:34:40 PDT From: lars@RNS.COM (Lars Poulsen) Subject: Re: Long Wave and Medium Wave Transmitters Organization: Rockwell International - CMC Network Products In article is written: >* Do you know long wave transmitters in the frequency range 230kHz-270kHz > and 355kHz-395kHz and medium wave transmitters in the frequency range > 480kHz-520kHz, 605kHz-645kHz? The US medium wave band goes 530 KhZ to 1610 kHz. There is a major transmitter in Los Angeles on 640 (KFI). But I suspect you are looking for specific transmitters in Europe. >* Is somewhere a list of long wave and medium wave transmitters for > Europe and perhaps other countries? I'm interested in magnetic field > strength in about 10km distance of those transmitter and their location > too. If you can tell me an estimate of the transmitted power, I can > calculate the field strength by myself. How about the World Radio and TV Handbook, published annually in Denmark. It should be available in most large libraries. Lars Poulsen Internet E-mail: lars@RNS.COM Rockwell Network Systems Phone: +1-805-562-3158 7402 Hollister Avenue Telefax: +1-805-968-8256 Santa Barbara, CA 93105 Internets: designed and built while you wait ------------------------------ From: kadokev@ripco.com (Kevin Kadow) Subject: Re: Easy Way to Busy Line in Modem Pool? Organization: Ripco Internet BBS, Chicago Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 05:22:36 GMT > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Actually, some readers of this group > have reported busying out lines by merely shorting the wires in the > pair and letting it go at that. It seems to cause no harm to the phone > network, although the PBX at your school may be different than others. > You could probably just install a little toggle switch for each line > where it is connected at the wall. Bring up a little jumper wire from > the pair to the toggle switch which, when thrown, will short the two > wires. When you want to take a line out of service, just flip the > little toggle switch for each pair. There are other, more elaborate > methods as well. PAT] With a PBX it shouldn't cause any trouble, but I have been told that just shorting the line will cause the phone company equipment to show line trouble. The new USR Courier modems have a front panel button that can be configured to perform one of several functions, including busying the line. kadokev@ripco.com Kevin Kadow FREE Usenet/Mail, inexpensive Internet - Ripco... Wearing white hats since 1983 Dialup:(312) 665-0065 | http://www.ripco.com/ | Telnet:foley.ripco.com ('info') ------------------------------ From: Les Reeves Subject: Re: 10224 - Thanks MCI!! Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 06:09:20 -0700 Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access On Fri, 19 May 1995, Donald R. Newcomb wrote: > Les, very good advice to the low-volume (retail) buyer of LD. I have > tended to use a local LD company which is not as cheap just because > I can pick up any phone in MS and get the same DD rates by dialing > 950-0885+access code+area code+number. For quick calls it is often > cheaper doing this from a pay-phone than dropping a quarter. Since posting the original message I have been told that that MCI (aka TelecomUSA) is only offering 10224 at fifteen cents per minute in a few select areas [thanks Richard Layman]: From: Richard Layman To: Les Reeves Subject: Re: 10224 (fwd) I called, because 700 ... didn't work either and they said it's only operative in CO, IL, GA, TX, and CA. Richard Layman, Mgr., Business Development, and Research Producer Computer Television Network, 825 6th St. NE, Washington, DC 20002 (202)544-5722 - (202)543-6730 (fax) - rlayman@capaccess.org http://www.phoenix.net/~ctn (... I know, it needs work) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 May 95 21:59:18 EDT From: John R. Covert Subject: Re: Cell One/Boston Brian Vita wrote: > The official party line was that their switch was 13 years old and, > being so grossly out of date, required replacement with an AT&T > switch. I tend to think that the reality of it was simply that since > AT&T spent meggabucks buying a portion of CO's parent, they are > forcing their subsidiary CO franchises to buy new AT&T switching > equipment to get some of their money back. Cell One/Boston is owned by Southwestern Bell; I'm sure AT&T did not purchase any part of Southwestern Bell. You're thinking of McCaw, which operates the "A" carrier franchises in many other cities. The name "CellOne" is actually (as I understand) owned by Southwestern Bell, who acquired it when they purchased the initial trial systems in Chicago and Washington. They license it to any "A" carrier who wishes to do business under that name. And, of course, they don't use it in those systems where they are the local wireline "B" carrier. > A $5 charge for detail billing. According to my last bill, that charge is only $1. I still find it unjustified. And their service reps have falsely claimed that NYNEX also has a detail billing charge, which I do not find on my NYNEX bill. > My wife notified them that she wanted to maintain the detail > billing when the notice went out. They ignored her request and > started sending just the summary bills. Interesting. I did nothing at all and continued to get detail billing (and started getting the $1 charge). > We've just been given notice of a per call "line access" charge that is > going be assessed to each outbound call. This was the last straw for Cell One and me. The actual change was that the land line charge was changing from a pure pass-through of the local Telco's message-rate business service charge of 3 cents per call plus 1.6 cents per minute to the new Call One charge of 4 cents per call plus 4.9 cents per minute. When that happened, I called and complained about them tripling my per-minute rate (since I was mostly an off-peak user on the old leisure plan which had been $25 a month and was now $36 a month). She swore up and down that they had not tripled the rates. New math, I suppose. Since I already had NYNEX service for $11/month and 39 cents peak and 29 cents off peak (no land line at all) I decided that I was sick of Cell One and would simply stop my practice of useless gabbing on the phone whenever I was driving somewhere. I had been using up to 400 minutes a month of off peak time; I'll now have to keep that down to about 1/3rd as much, but that's the way it goes. Most of those calls were really totally unnecessary. I had retained the $11/month NYNEX service to save money when roaming. With Cell One's $4/month plus $3/day/system roaming fees, using NYNEX for roaming instead of Cell One paid for the $11 with only 1-3 days of roaming per month. (NYNEX customers are not charged daily fees for roaming no matter where they go in North America.) john ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #254 ****************************** Received: from ns1.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa10992; 24 May 95 16:05 EDT Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id IAA24104 for telecomlist-outbound; Wed, 24 May 1995 08:59:12 -0500 Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id IAA24096; Wed, 24 May 1995 08:59:09 -0500 Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 08:59:09 -0500 From: TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson) Message-Id: <199505241359.IAA24096@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #255 TELECOM Digest Wed, 24 May 95 08:59:00 CDT Volume 15 : Issue 255 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Re: 800-1XX, 800-0XX (Mark Cuccia) Re: Bell Canada to File Pay-per-Local-Call Rates (Jeff Bamford) Re: Natural Microsystems VBX/400 Telephony Board Help (Harold Buehl) Re: Natural Microsystems VBX/400 Telephony Board Help (Mike K. Tyler) Re: CLID and Visual Message Waiting Indicator (Chris Garrigues) Re: CLID and Visual Message Waiting Indicator (Barry Loveridge) Re: A Question About Priorities (Matt Barton) Re: Cell One/Boston (Fred R. Goldstein) Re: RBOC IP Legislation Scaring Local ISPs (Tim Gorman) Help Identify Netcom Research (Michael K. Makuch) Book Review: Telecommunications Directory, 1995-96, 7th Edition (N. Allen) US Area Code Changes - Test Numbers (Ben Heckscher) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of public service systems and networks including Compuserve and America On Line. 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Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Cuccia Subject: Re: 800-1XX, 800-0XX Date: Wed, 24 May 95 08:09:00 GMT This type of combination HAS been considered by Bellcore's N.American Numbering as well as the 800 Numbering Administration (Lockheed) and the telecom.industry forums (ICCF, INC, etc.). They seem to have rejected this FOR THE TIME BEING since only 200 possible codes for line-number assignments could be available. Instead they will be going to new special NPA's 888, then 877, 866, 855(?), 844, etc. There would have been WAY-TOO-MANY switches of all types and owned by all types of players in North America which would need special reprogramming to allow CUSTOMER dialable access to a 0 or 1 in the 'D' digit. In 1992 (and revised in 93), Bellcore NANPA issued a 70page (or so) document as an 'IL' on the future of numbering in the North American Numbering Plan. I think it is called 'Long-Term Numbering Plan'. You can get a copy (free) from Bellcore's NANPA (WHICH MOVED from Livingston NJ to Piscataway NJ earlier this month). It discusses such possibilities to preserve a 10-digit number within WZ1 by going to an NXX-0XX or NXX-1XX type of central-office-code -- known as 'unblocking the D digit' for 0 or 1. Some of us might think that this would be ambiguous with special Operator and network special system routing codes as well as test codes used 'only' by telco personnel. It does look confusing, but when an operator needs to reach, say the direct DA operator for a smaller area, (s)he keys [KP]+NPA+0XX+131+[ST]. The 'ST' key 'ends' the dialing string, therefore this is NOT the same thing as NPA-0XX-131X which could be someone's number. Personaly, I'm NOT in favor of 0XX or 1XX 'regular' central office codes in geographic central offices. ANOTHER ambiguity would be with 'non-subscriber'/IXC-issues/RAO-based calling cards (only for those who follow the Bellcore standard), which are of the form NXX-0/1XX-XXXX plus pin (0/1XXX). An 'arbitrary' calling card issued now could 'eventually' be based on someone ELSE'S home phone number and THEY 'should' be assigned an LEC card based on THEIR phone number. BUT --I'll leave this to Bellcore NANPA (or its successor) and the ICCF, INC, etc. BTW - Here in the New Orleans area, when you dial (at least using AT&T and of course SCBell): 1+(or 0+) valid (geographic) NPA+ 0/1XX+xxxx you get cut off RIGHT AWAY by your originating local Bell switch -- in some cases right after the NPA-0/1XX, sometimes after the full ten digits. When you dial 1 + 800 + ANY ten digits, there is a slight delay (while the 800 database is checked) before you get 'clicked-over' to whatever treatment is to be done. THIS INCLUDES 800-0XX and 800-1XX dial-strings -- the recording is 'your call cannot be completed as dialed' and it comes from the Bell TANDEM switch. MARK J. CUCCIA mcuccia@law.tulane.edu TEL, WORK: +1 504 865 5954 (UNiversity 5-6000, EXT.5954) FAX, WORK: +1 504 865 5917 (UNiversity 5-6000, EXT.5917) HOME: 4710 Wright Road New Orleans LA 70128 TEL (will forward to cellular & voicemail) +1 504 241 2497 (CHestnut 1-2497) ------------------------------ From: jeffb@audiolab.uwaterloo.ca (Jeff Bamford) Subject: Re: Bell Canada to File Pay-per-Local-Call Rates Organization: Audio Research Group, University of Waterloo Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 13:54:01 -0400 In article , Dave Leibold wrote: > from Bell News, 15 May 95 - this is Bell Canada's version of events > Bell to file usage-based pricing for business local calling. > sidebar > What business will NOT pay for: > * incoming calls; > * long distance calls; > * calls made within customer's system; > * calls to 911; > * directory assistance (411); > * Bell operator (0); > * Bell repair (611); > * relay services for the hearing impaired (711). > What business will pay for: > * all other outbound local calls. > TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I think they are making a big mistake by > not requiring businesses to pay for calls to Directory Assistance. Many > large businesses are big abusers of this service. There will usually be > hundreds of copies of the telephone directory delivered to a large corp- > oration each year, yet very few employees ever seem to have a copy at > their desk; it is always easier to dial 411. Then also, businesses which > rely on very accurate, up-to-date records of how to reach their customers > such as credit services, banks, etc *never* use the paper directory, > instead preferring the more accurate operator records. One reason all of > us here in Ameritech territory have paid for Directory Assistance calls > for many years now was because of the way businesses abused it. PAT Free long distance? That's what it says above, clearly they must mean that the long distance charge is all that will be paid. The same must apply to directory assistance. They'll charge the 50c to get the number but not for the time to get the number, if that makes sense. Sort of like a cell-phone with free air, you'd still pay for the d.a. but not for the air. Bell Canada can't be that stupid as to give businesses free d.a. Jeff Bamford Email - jeffb@uwaterloo.ca -- NeXT Mail welcome Office/Lab: +1 519 885 1211 x3814 Fax: +1 519 746 8115 WEB Page: A.R.G. Home Page ------------------------------ From: hbuehl@dsm1.dsmnet.com Subject: Re: Natural Microsystems VBX/400 Telephony Board Help Date: 24 May 1995 03:41:25 GMT Organization: Des Moines Internet Reply-To: hbuehl@dsm1.dsmnet.com In , carlin!eharris@uunet.uu.net (Evan Harris) writes: > I need to find a source of technical specs for Natural Microsystems VBX/400 > telephony boards. I need to find out what the file format of the prompt > files is, so that I can create them. > I've called NMS, and they have been no help. Apparently the person that > worked for them that wrote the drivers for the board left the company and > no one knows the specs on the files. (Sounds like good planning to me...) > Anyway, if anyone knows anything about these boards, or knows where I can > get more information on technical details, it would be much appreciated! Your response from NMS is somewhat suspect. The VBX/400, along with all of their voice processing uses a VOX file format which is proprietary to NMS. They have several conversion programs that will allow you to convert from other voice file formats to the VOX. As far as making prompt files, there are also a series of utilities that can be used to develop the prompt files, including rules tables to make the systems count, recite dollars and ordinal numbers, etc. Everything "SHOULD" be available from NMS. We have recently completed a project using a VBX/400 which we had the prompts recorded in 16 bit linear and converted them to VOX using utilities supplied by NMS. We also developed rules and prompt files to speak back numbers, dollars, dates, etc in French. Harold Buehl Croyle & Associates Des Moines, Iowa ------------------------------ From: miket@miket.seanet.com (Mike K. Tyler) Subject: Re: Natural Microsystems VBX/400 Telephony Board Help Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 05:40:23 GMT Organization: OSD, Inc. In article carlin!eharris@uunet.uu.net (Evan Harris) writes: > I've called NMS, and they have been no help. Apparently the person that > worked for them that wrote the drivers for the board left the company and > no one knows the specs on the files. (Sounds like good planning to me...) I don't believe that for a minute. NMS Is still making the VBX 400. Do you have the developers kit? It has all the information as well as Vscript (the NMS scripting language) and ME2 (the "C" interface API) Call them back and get the Vscript stuff, it comes with a great manual and lots of examples. miket@miket.seanet.com ------------------------------ From: cwg@DeepEddy.Com (Chris Garrigues) Subject: Re: CLID and Visual Message Waiting Indicator Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 15:45:08 -0500 Organization: Deep Eddy Internet Consulting In article , mike@sandman.com (Mike Sandman) wrote: > Right now, if you want message waiting indication on CO based voice > mail, you need to pick up the phone and listen for stutter dial tone. > Most phone companies are quickly shifting to a new technology, called > FSK (Frequency Shift Keying). An FSK message waiting indicator works > kinda like caller id. The CO sends out a burst of data every once in > a while, and the FSK gizmo listens for the audio. It either turns the > light on or off based on the data sent. They do this WITHOUT the phone > line going off hook, the data is just audio riding on the pair from > the CO. We should have FSK Message Waiting indicators in stock in the > next couple of weeks, selling for around $30. Maybe you can clear something up for me. I've got SWBell's Call Notes (Voice Mail) on my ISDN line (Seimens switch). Originally they told me that by programming one of my buttons (Seimens 787 phone) to Feature ID Number 64, the associated light would act as a message light. I appear to be the first one in these parts to try to do this, so we're all learning together. They managed to enable the stutter tone, but all we've got the button on FIN 64 to do is clear the stutter tone. Is this a problem with the switch? With switches in general? With my phone? With ISDN in general? Chris Garrigues cwg@DeepEddy.Com Deep Eddy Internet Consulting +1 512 432 4046 609 Deep Eddy Avenue Austin, TX 78703-4513 USA http://www.DeepEddy.Com/~cwg/ ------------------------------ From: vwaves@best.com (Barry Loveridge) Subject: Re: CLID and Visual Message Waiting Indicator Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 09:13:31 Organization: VoiceWaves, Inc. In article mike@sandman.com (Mike Sandman) writes: > There are Stutter Dial Tone Message Waiting devices on the market (we > sell one for $29.95), but they are to be used behind a PBX or Key > System, not for connection to the Public Switched Network - because > the FCC hasn't authorized this kind of device yet. There Stutter Dial Tone Message Waiting devices out there that retail for less then $29.95 and are line powered, so DON'T require batteries or a power adaptor. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 00:24:53 GMT From: matt barton Subject: Re: A Question About Priorities Organization: BNR RTP It is certainly true that the interaction of different services provisioned against a line is a very complicated business. There is no single "right" way to set priorities. Bellcore has voluminous spec's addressing some specific interactions, but there are also CEPT, ETSI, and other standards bodies, not to mention the requirements of the telco's and large corporate customer's. In some cases, a specific interaction is never defined in advance, it just occurs as whatever the switch software does, and is then possibly documented afterwards, if ever. With that said, I can state one answer to some of your questions. Call Screening essentially corresponds to the "Call Authorization" point in call (PIC) in the AIN call model, which comes very early. Transfer on Busy would tend to come later, at the Selecting Route PIC. (Transfer on Busy is a feature like any other, and they are all implemented in software these days.) So a good reference to where the PSTN is going regarding service interactions would be a look at the AIN call model. But as to where it is now, it all depends on the specific switch. Matthew Barton,Dept 3R37 PCS is coming to DMS! mattbar@bnr.ca ESN 294-7807 Phone:919-991-7807 fax:-7592 BNR, Inc., Dept 3R37, 35 Davis Dr, POB 13478, RTP, NC 27709-3478 USA ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 09:15:17 -0400 From: Fred R. Goldstein Subject: Re: Cell One/Boston Brian Vita complains, > The long promised (threatened) switch change from a Motorola analog to > a AT&T digitial occurred this past weekend (5/12-14) and with it came > three days of nightmarish service.... > When I was finally able to get a live service drone on the line > Monday, I was told that they had no way of anticipating problems (gee, > what about the fiascos at all the other McCaw properties that have > already made the changeover) and that I was basically SOL for the > inconvenience. Except that Cell One/Boston is not a McCaw property. Cell One/Boston is Southwestern Bell, who bought it from Metromedia some years ago. > The official party line was that their switch was 13 years old and, > being so grossly out of date, required replacement with an AT&T > switch. I tend to think that the reality of it was simply that since > AT&T spent meggabucks buying a portion of CO's parent, they are > forcing their subsidiary CO franchises to buy new AT&T switching > equipment to get some of their money back. No relationship between AT&T and SBC/Southwestern Bell, except supplier/ customer. "Cell One" is a shared franchise name for "A" systems. McCaw/AT&T uses it, as do others, including SWB when on the A side. These companies have nothing more in common with each other. Fred R. Goldstein fgoldstein@bbn.com Bolt Beranek & Newman Inc. Cambridge MA USA +1 617 873 3850 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 21:22:33 -0500 From: Tim Gorman Subject: Re: RBOC IP Legislation Scaring Local ISPs aa931@detroit.freenet.org (Jack Decker) writes in Telecom Digest V15 #244: > In a previous article, tpeters@hns.com (Thomas Peters) says: >> The relationship between the public and a large regulated monopoly is >> never going to be smooth and free of disagreements, but a little >> balance is in order. The Bell System and the other local phone >> companies have built a fabulous telephone network, by far the best in >> the world. They invested their money, time, and energy on the basis of >> a deal they made with the public long ago. This is how you would repay >> them? > Tom, I think you are living in some sort of fantasyland where the > telephone company was always good, and always put the interest of its > customers first. This, or course, has no relationship whatsoever to > the reality of the situation. > First of all, they got to be monopolies by eating up their competition > like sharks and by convincing (some might say "bribing", but of course > we have no proof of that) legislators that a regulated monopoly was > better than competition. Of course there are always two sides to every story. The one presented here doesn't present the part where if you subscribed to the Jack Doe phone company you couldn't call neighbor on the John Doe phone company. It doesn't present the part where different phone companies were installing poles and wire everywhere and making an eyesore you wouldn't believe. If you haven't seen pictures of New York and Chicago in those days you literally would not believe the mess in the air. It doesn't present the part that much of the competition got eaten up because they couldn't afford the capital investment needed to compete and sold out rather than losing everything. > Then they set up a system where prices bore no relationship to their > costs. And, once again, we see the "they". As in the conspiracy "they". "They" are always out to get the little guy, don't you know. > The way you talk, this system was what the public wanted, and their > elected officials were only expressing the public's desire. Yeah, > right. The telco monopoly and the ridiculous system of charging > outrageous amounts for things that cost the phone company almost zero > was put in place by some pointy-headed bureaucrats who were given a > real snow job by the phone company attorneys (this varied from state > to state, but in no case that I know of was the public consulted on > whether they wanted phone service to be a monopoly). The description of the bureaucrats sounds about right. The problem is that the bureaucrats didn't make the decisions concerning any of this. It was elected officials either making the decisions or appointing the commisioners who did. So, in essence, the public had as much say about this as they did about any of the social welfare programs we have today. I guess one can argue that the public has no say on anything the government does but that sounds rather extreme. > You see, I happen to live near a local phone company that for several > decades has proved what local service could be like if the customers > really are put first (unfortunately NOT near enough to be in their > local service area). That is the Allendale Telephone Company of > Allendale, Michigan, a suburb of Grand Rapids. They offer local > calling to the Grand Rapids area, but their local service prices are > about one-third of those charged by other area phone companies, and > their optional services are much more reasonable as well. And they've > been profitable for at least the last four decades. If it had not > been for the Bell System, there might be a lot more Allendale > Telephone Companies around, and in my opinion we'd all be much better > off. Uh huh. Just as above, this is only part of the story. Did Allendale Telephone Company participate in Division of Revenue separations with the Bell System? If they did, it is quite likely they made out very well because of the favorable payments received. Of course, this doesn't make as nearly as good of a conspiracy story. > So if you are looking for folks to have some sort of gratitude toward > the old Bell System, I think you're going to have to search long and > hard. Perhaps some former employees, and quite likely most of the > stockholders would have some warm feelings for it, but many customers > have felt that all they have got is shafted and gouged. You are judging what "many" people feel based on your feelings. Contrary to this most of the surveys I have seen indicate that most people think they DID receive good value for the service they received. Most people still feel so. What most people feel is that the RBOC's STILL provide good, basic service at a decent price. The problem is that many also feel the RBOC's are not players on the technological frontier. Tim Gorman tg6124@tyrell.net Southwestern Bell Tel. Co. ------------------------------ From: makuch@bga.com (Michael K. Makuch) Subject: Help Identify Netcom Research Date: 24 May 1995 04:10:46 GMT Organization: ABM Data Systems Reply-To: mkm@abm.austin.tx.us I came across an old 8 bit ISA network adapter card that I'd like to try and put to use, only I do not have any documentation on the jumper/dip switch settings. The card is labeled "1989 NETCOM RESEARCH, INC." I have a PC INDUSTRY PHONE BOOK containing many phone numbers of manufacturers but it doesn't have an entry for NETCOM Research. Anyone know who this is or where I can get a phone number for them or documentation on this adapter card? Thanks, Michael Makuch mkm@abm.austin.tx.us ------------------------------ From: Nigel Allen Subject: Book Review: Telecommunications Directory, 1995-96, 7th Edition Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 11:19:56 EDT Organization: 52 Manchester Avenue, Toronto, Ontario M6G 1V3, Canada Here is information about an expensive but useful reference book that may be of interest to many readers of this Digest. It may be available at your local public or university library, or your company's library may have a copy. The description is from the company's catalog. Telecommunications Directory 1995-96, Seventh Edition Edited by John Krol Published by Gale Research Inc., 835 Penobscot Building, Detroit, MI 48226-4094, USA; telephone (313) 961-2242 or 800-877-GALE Copyright 1994 ISBN: 0-8103-9125-2 Price: $340.00 Find detailed descriptions and full contact information on more than 2,500 national and international communications systems and services You'll discover voice and data communication services, local area networks, teleconferencing facilities, videotext and teletext operations, electronic mail services, facsimile services, Internet access providers, voicemail systems and services, satellite services and electronic transactional services. You'll also get the facts on relevant advertising/marketing firms, associations, consultants, law firms, financial organizations, publishers/information services, regulatory and standards bodies, research organizations, seminar and conference sponsors and training organizations. Glossary of terms, acronyms, standards and issues. Function/service, geographic, personal name and master indexes help speed your search. Nigel Allen, Toronto, Ontario, Canada ndallen@io.org http://www.io.org/~ndallen ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 May 95 08:51 EST From: Ben Heckscher <0003094996@mcimail.com> Subject: US Area Code Changes - Test Numbers On Saturday May 13th the US public-switched telephone network stopped completing calls to southern Alabama that were dialed using the old "205" area code. The new area code for this region is "334", which is the first of a new series of area codes that are being assigned without a "0" or "1" as the second digit. By dialing the test numbers listed below, users can find out whether they can reach locations that are using the new US area codes. Recorded messages indicate whether you have successfully reached the test number, or if it could not be completed. Overseas (i.e. non-US) locations, small offices, and users with telephones connected to a PABX should test the numbers to see if they can be reached. Area Code --------- Mandatory Area Old New dialing date Test Number ------------------- --------- ------------ --------------- Southern Alabama 205 334 Now +1 334 223 0600 Western 206 360 19 Aug 1995 +1 360 532 0023 Washington (state) Phoenix Arizona area 602 520 23 Jul 1995 +1 520 782 0100 (*) Northern and 303 970 01 Oct 1995 +1 970 241 0022 Western Colorado Chicago Illinois area 708 630 Undetermined +1 630 203 1204 (*) May require multiple tries to reach this number. Source: FCC, Washington, DC "411 Newsletter", Rockville, MD Network World magazine, 22 May 1995 [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: As of this morning, the area 630 number cannot be reached from 708. PAT] ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #255 ****************************** Received: from delta.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa29435; 25 May 95 19:00 EDT Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA24507 for telecomlist-outbound; Thu, 25 May 1995 11:02:09 -0500 Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA24497; Thu, 25 May 1995 11:02:05 -0500 Date: Thu, 25 May 1995 11:02:05 -0500 From: TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson) Message-Id: <199505251602.LAA24497@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #256 TELECOM Digest Thu, 25 May 95 11:02:00 CDT Volume 15 : Issue 256 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson GTE Mobilenet Battle Rages On (Dave Rand) COCOT Commissions (Lee Winson) U.S. Postal Service Warns Against Telemarketing Fraud (Nigel Allen) Ohio Telephone Competition (Frank Atkinson) India's Telecom Regulator May Really Be Autonomous (Rishab Aiyer Ghosh) Re: 800 1 and 800 0 - Why Not? (Judith Oppenheimer) Re: Meeting the Challenge (John Higdon) In a Land With No Infrastructure, How to Connect to Internet (S. Schubert) Meridian SL1 - Information Pointers? (Thomas P. Brisco) Review -- FCC Docket # 91-281: Caller ID (stanford@algorhythms.com) Re: Last Laugh! Mike and Terry's Lawnmower Service (Gordon S. Hlavenka) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of public service systems and networks including Compuserve and America On Line. It is also gatewayed to Usenet where it appears as the moderated newsgroup 'comp.dcom.telecom'. Subscriptions are available to qualified organizations and individual readers. Write and tell us how you qualify: * telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu * The Digest is edited, published and compilation-copyrighted by Patrick Townson of Skokie, Illinois USA. 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They resell long distance service (from AT&T and Sprint), unlike Cellular One here in the Bay Area (BATCS). When asked for long distance rates, they refer you off to AT&T. When the bill comes, the AT&T rate doesn't match the GTEM rate (big surprise). I filed complaints with the PUC in California. After wasting a month or so, they said, roughly, "no problem here - they are charging the tariffed rates for California traffic." And, to my utter amazment, they were. GTEM rates are within cents of the AT&T in-state rates. Since this now was an inter-state issue, I filed an informal complaint with the FCC. [the wavy lines disappear, as we snap back into the present] About a month ago, I got a nice letter from the FCC telling be that they had asked AT&T and GTEM to respond to my complaints. AT&T sent me a letter a few days after, telling me that they had started the investigation, and would get back to me within 30 days. They did, telling me that there was no issue with AT&T (correct), and that they had closed their investigation. GTEM send me a letter on the same day, telling me the results of their investigation ... Well, the bottom line was *of COURSE* GTEM was reselling service, and they had carefully trained their staff to answer questions properly about long distance service. Lots of other waffle-words about valued customers, and so on. So I call GTEM up, and ask them how long distance was handled. The CSR assured me, as GTEM has in the past, that "either AT&T or Sprint carries your call, whichever one is cheaper at the time you make the call, and they will bill you for the call. We do not know how much a specific call will cost." Well, if they don't know how much it costs, how can they route the call to AT&T or Sprint? CSR gets upset... So once again into the breach we go, another letter to the FCC. Once again, the moral of the story is if you are using GTEM as your cellular carrier, and you use *any* long distance, including Follow-Me-Roaming, check your bill carefully. For more information, write to me directly, and I can put you on my fax or email list. [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Dave, I hope you will keep after them on this and send us additional followup as it becomes available to you. I for one will be interested in how they respond to your latest note. PAT] ------------------------------ From: turner7@pacsibm.org (Lee Winson) Subject: COCOT Commissions Date: 25 May 1995 03:29:47 GMT Organization: PACS IBM SIG BBS Strictly speaking as a consumer, I didn't even know property owners got commissions for pay phones on their premises. I always assumed phones were there as a service for the customers, or so customers wouldn't bother the business owner to use his/her phones for calls. The moderator mentions COCOTs in poor areas. In Philadelphia, there are a great many COCOTS located in the city. While Bell of Penna always got city permission and pays all taxes and fees to put a phone on a street corner, most COCOTs owners never did. The city attempted to crack down on this, and the COCOTS refused, and fought back in a lawsuit. (Which, IMHO, is groundless, and the city COCOTS are just ripping the city off.) Other COCOTS that have gotten news are those in hospitals and shopping centers. Basically, the owner of these properties are seeking a higher return than they were getting from Bell, at the expense of consumers. Readers of this newsgroup are real quick to point out errors by the Bell Telcos and call for honest competition. But why aren't COCOTS duly labeled with their charges? There has been many newspaper articles about people finding $5 calling card or collect charges the next month on their bill. That hurts! Maybe instead of a card with fine print that only a telephone engineer would understand, there should be a price list of fees. Supermarkets are required to post prices clearly, why not phone companies? (BTW, I tried calling 00 to get some rates from COCOTS -- next to impossible.) [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: You are obviously not reading the back issues of this Digest or the various files in the Archives or you would know that indeed, there have been many complaints about COCOTS presented in this forum over the years. Telco -- or 'Genuine Bell' as we have called them -- payphones come in two ways: either they are 'public' phones and commisionable to the owners of the property on which they sit or they are 'semi-public' and non-commissionable with the property or business owner where they are located paying telco a fee for keeping them there (with telco keeping all the coins as well). If public (commissionable) then the property/business owner gets a commission on all traffic sent paid and all traffic received collect. He gets a set fee for all traffic billed to calling cards or other third-party numbers. The phone cannot be listed in the directory, and many times the phone will be set up for one way outbound service only. With 'semi-public' phones it is a bit different. Telco, in their own judgment feels the location does not warrant a 'public' payphone. They would not put one there, and certainly would not pay commissions for keeping it there on their own. The property/business owner has agreed to not only let telco keep all the revenue from the phone, but to *pay an additional monthly fee as well* for having it there, for the reason, as you point out, of convenience for his customers. The property owner gets something else for his money though; 'semi-public' payphones can be listed in the directory as the owner's bus- iness phone if desired; they can receive incoming calls if desired, and the owner can have an extension installed in his office or wherever for when the phone rings if he wants. Payphones located in 'public' places where the 'owner' is not readily apparent such as on the sidewalk on a street corner, in a park at the shelter house, along the highway, etc. are generally assigned to the city in which they are located. That is, the city government receives commissions on the phone in exchange for allowing telco to clutter the sidewalk or the park. When in telco's judgment an outdoor, 'public' location does not warrant a pay (commissionable) phone, and no one is willing to pay to have one there, then various things may happen. The city may prevail on telco to go ahead and put one there as a community service (in which case telco itself is listed as the 'subscriber' and receives the commissions) or maybe the location goes without a phone, particularly if vandalism has been a serious problem there. Because of increasing vandalism and robbery of payphones in outdoor locations, and the increasing number of ghetto inner city neighborhoods where telco felt their own payphones would be a losing proposition, there was a gap to be filled, thus the COCOT came into existence. The COCOT people go to the places where payphones are otherwise installed (or not installed at all) and offer to put payphones there on terms and conditions better than the terms and conditions offered by telco for the same thing. They offer higher commissions, or perhaps they offer commissions in cases where telco had refused to provide public coin service at all. So payphones (of the COCOT variety) are now available in places where it is likely there would be no public phone at all otherwise. But someone has to pay for the phone vandalism and the commissions they pay out. Guess who that is ... we have had many, many, many complaints about COCOTS, and the 'operator service bureaus' they use printed in this forum. As telco cuts back on the payphone locations they service, the choice often times is a COCOT or no phone at all. Which will it be? And I may be mistaken but I think quite a few COCOT operators have cleaned up their act quite a bit over the past couple years. Five to ten years ago they were all pretty outrageous. Now some are actually quite competitive with telco, at least for the phone using public. PAT] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 19:24:12 -0400 From: ndallen@io.org (Nigel Allen) Subject: U.S. Postal Service Warns Against Telemarketing Fraud For warnings about some common types of telemarketing and postal fraud against consumers and businesses and preventive measures that you can take, take a look at the following Web page: "http://www.usps.gov/depart/inspect/Welcome.html". It provides information from the Inspection Service of the United States Postal Service. Most readers of the Telecom Digest will be aware of these common fraud schemes, but you may want to share some of this information with other members of your family and people at your place of work. Here are some of the topics listed: * 900 Telephone Number Schemes * Advance Fee Loan Schemes * Advertising Specialty Products Schemes * Boiler Room Schemes against Business * Chain Letters * Charity Fraud * Credit Card Schemes * Cut-Rate Health Insurance Fraud * Distributorship and Franchise Fraud * False Billing Schemes Against Business * Government Look-alike Mail * Home Improvement and Home Repair Frauds * Mail Bombs * Mailing of Child Pornography * Hot Tip on Playing Foreign Lotteries by Mail * Missing Persons Fraud Scheme * Oil and Gas Investment Frauds * Prison Pen Pal Money Order Scam * The Phony Inheritance Scam * Schemes That Charge Money for Services * Solicitations Disguised as Invoices Other information from the U.S. Postal Service is available on its Web server at "http://www.usps.gov". Nigel Allen (no affiliation with U.S. Postal Service) 52 Manchester Avenue, Toronto, Ontario M6G 1V3, Canada Internet: ndallen@io.org http://www.io.org/~ndallen Telephone: (416) 535-8916 [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I wish the Postal Service would stick to delivering mail and attempt to just do that much well. The postal ins- pectors should just spend their time cleaning out the thieves who work for the post office. Ever been in a big city post office sorting room? If they find out you are getting money in the mail at your post office box they'll rip you off good. Here in Chicago several years ago, a charity known as the Missionary Fathers had a box at the same post office I used for about twenty years. Their thing was those cheesy name and address labels, pencils, pens and other trinkets sent to you as a gift by the homeless Indian children in the orphanage, and won't you send them a gift also to help pay for their food and clothing, etc. Your ten dollars per month will support a dozen on a diet of macaroni and cheese, or beans, or whatever the orphanage was feeding them. The Missionary Fathers were pulling it in pretty well at their post office box, and although mostly it would be checks and money orders or credit card authorizations, a certain amount was cash stuffed in an envelope; they got maybe a thousand dollars per day in cash. When they complained to the postal inspectors that their cash seemed to be a lot less than usual, the PI's got interested and started watching things more closely. They 'salted' the mail, meaning they deliberatly planted marked cash money in the mailbags for the charity then used hidden cameras in the employees bathrooms and locker rooms. They'd see employees grab a handful of the charity's mail, disappear into the bathroom and come out five minutes later without the mail. The cash in their pocket, and the remains shredded and flushed down the toilet, etc ... in the indictment against eighteen postal workers, the government alleged that some were double-dipping; that is, making two trips to the bathroom on their shift, and one supervisor who got indicted went back to the ladies room four times one day with a handful of Missionary Father's mail each time! The day the scandal broke, I went down to get my mail as always and at the call-counter they had all different people working there. It seems the day before the postal inspectors had fired everyone who worked there and brought in a new crew from one of the other post offices. Shortly thereafter they passed a rule saying all the workers in the sorting room and on the loading docks had to wear a certain type of coveralls at work that did not have any pockets in them, and that at the end of each shift they would go to the locker room and change back into their street clothes under the watchful eyes of the postal inspectors. Women employees went to a different locker room where a matron had the duty of checking them out. Basically, they were just cloth sacks the employees wore to cover their nakedness while they sorted the mail. Naturally, frequent drug testing -- and this was in the early 1970's -- became part of the routine. Big city post office facilities are still hell-holes to work in. It is no wonder so many of the workers wind up shooting and killing each other and their supervisors, etc. Are the post offices in Canada also pretty bad places to work? Remember that fellow working for the post office in Toronto a few years ago who ripped off Oral Roberts for the cash in the mail? How much was it? $250 thousand if my memory is correct. The postal inspectors don't need to worry so much about child porn as they do getting their own houses cleaned out, like they have had to do at zip 60690 here in Chicago a few times and 60680, the main post office here (or 'big house' as the sorting room facilties there are sometimes referred to by workers). PAT] ------------------------------ From: fratkins@freenet.columbus.oh.us (Frank Atkinson) Subject: Ohio Telephone Competition Date: 24 May 1995 20:27:05 -0400 Organization: The Greater Columbus Freenet Ohio is currently going through the process of letting competition enter the local telephone market. It started out with the players talking around the edges, now court actions are starting to fly. We are setting up a mailing list for those who wish to follow this process in more detail. If you wish to subscribe drop a note to: list-admin@han1.hannah.com asking to subscribe to ohio-telecom Frank Atkinson fratkins@freenet.columbus.oh.us or frank@hannah.com I think therefore I am, I think? ------------------------------ Subject: India's Telecom Regulator May Really Be Autonomous From: rishab@dxm.ernet.in (Rishab Aiyer Ghosh) Date: Thu, 25 May 95 00:08:17 IST Organization: Deus X Machina --==(C) Copyright 1995 Rishab Aiyer Ghosh (rishab@dxm.ernet.in) India's telecom regulator may really be autonomous 24th May 1995: In an exclusive interview for my forthcoming newsletter on India's information industry, Telecom Secretary R K Takkar said that the government is "committed to treating [the yet-to-be-formed Telecom Regulatory Authority of India] as independent and autonomous," and enumerated the various measures it is taking to ensure the TRAI's independence. First, it is trying to pass a one-line amendment to the ancient (British) Indian Telegraph Act of 1885, to shift the powers of the Director General of Telecommunications to the TRAI for most purposes. This may be procedurally delayed, as the Parliament ends its current session this week. Second, it is working on separate legislation to formalize the TRAI as an autonomous regulator similar to the SEBI, which monitors India's stock exchanges. This will be made law in a year or two, with the benefit of experience of the TRAI's actual performance; till then the body gets its powers from the government's excecutive order. Third, the three-member TRAI panel will be appointed on secure tenure for 5 years, so, like Supreme Court judges, they do not risk being removed by an disagreeable government. Other measures, and a discussion of the possible merger of at least the regulatory bodies of India's communications and broadcasting ministries - following an earlier Supreme Court ruling against the country's government monopoly of the airwaves - will be found in my newsletter when the sample issue is made available for free electronic distribution in late June. --==(C) Copyright 1995 Rishab Aiyer Ghosh (rishab@dxm.ernet.in) --==May be distributed electronically provided that only compilation or --==transmission charges are applied. Other uses require written permission. Rishab Aiyer Ghosh For Electric Dreams subscriptions rishab@dxm.ernet.in and back issues, send a mail to rishab@arbornet.org rishab@arbornet.org with Vox +91 11 6853410 Voxmail 3760335 'help' in lower case, without H 34C Saket, New Delhi 110017, INDIA the quotes, as the Subject. ------------------------------ From: Judith Oppenheimer Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 14:53:16 -0400 Subject: Re: 800 1 and 800 0 - Why Not? The question was asked, wouldn't 800 1 and 800 0 add another 20% of numbers to the 800 database. The answer is yes, it would. Is it do-able? Yes again. This issue was raised in INC, where the concensus was that the additional 20% wouldn't solve the "shortage", so why bother. In reference to that infamous shortage, we've dug up just a few interesting pieces of information. {CallCenter Magazine} reported in its September '94 issue that "60 million calls are made daily over the countries 1.8 million 800 numbers." **** Yes folks, that's 1.8 million 800 numbers in use. **** CallCenter got that information from the DMA (Direct Marketing Association.) The DMA got it from AT&T. According to my sources in the DMA's public relations office, through May '94, AT&T public relations supplied the DMA with 800 stats as well as other mundane statistical information, on a routine basis. But starting June '94, AT&T stopped giving the DMA this info; said it didn't have it, and had no way to access the number of 800 numbers in assignment to users. Since then, reporters have complained to me that, having asked AT&T and MCI how many 800 numbers they have assigned to users, they were told the carriers have no way of knowing. You'd think between their resp org administrative offices, and their billing offices, this sort of information would be easy enough to spit out of some computer. (Then again, these are the same folks who argued against "date certain" to the U.S. ITU Delegation, asserting that they had no way of telling who'd had their 800 assignments prior to December, '94.) Back to June '94, when AT&T stopped reporting to the DMA. This timing just happens to coincide with two seemingly unrelated events: 500 PCS marketing, and industry "800 shortage" claims. Privately, no one even bothers to dispute that the 800 database is being misappropriated for delivery of non-800 services that require routing. Can't be too hard to figure out either, as publications as diverse as Catalog Age and Investor's Business Daily have recently reported on carrier stockpiling of 800 numbers. (Anyone want copies of the articles, email me with your fax number.) J. Oppenheimer, Producer@Pipeline.com Interactive CallBrand(TM) ------------------------------ Organization: Green Hills and Cows Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 11:38:53 -0700 From: John Higdon Subject: Re: Meeting the Challenge mikem@i-link.net (Mike McKinney) writes: > Come on John, you can't hide behind this thin of a disclaimer ! I do not hide behind disclaimers. It is one of the luxuries of owning one's own site. My intimate knowledge is of Pacific Bell practices. How they relate to other companies' policies or practices is beyond my direct knowledge, and I wanted that understood up front. That is hardly "hiding". Again, my comments apply to Pac*Bell. > A cash deposit is required on *any* major installation that requires > capitol investment on a Telco's part, either that or a letter of > guarantee that the service will be used long enough to recover the > cost. Cash deposits are generally not required from customers who have substantial credit and history with telco. But 976 service was a special case. Customers who could get banks of DID trunks, servicing thousands of numbers, with five-year service commitments could get such installations with a phone call. These same customers had to fork over thousands of dollars to get so much as four 976 lines installed. > This will probably change with real competiton because there > will no doubt be companies that will do it just for the monthly > service charges. Thank you. That was my point. Pacific Bell had these practices because a) it could get away with them; and b) it wanted to place competition to its own excuse for IP services at a disadvantage. > As regards to other installation requirements, I have no idea what he > means by "The installation site had to have "excess facilities" which > meant that any 976 lines had to be installed on pairs that would never > conceivably be used for POTS." Perhaps John could explain his > comment. I would be happy to explain. Upon finding a site that significantly met Pac*Bell's requirements for 976 service (within the arbitrary perimeter of the serving CO, etc.,), a 976 provider could be told that there were insufficient facilities. There could be 100 spare pairs going into the building and the IP might only want six 976 lines, but Pac*Bell would say that those 100 pairs were inadequate for projected usage. It was as I said: there had to be "excess facilities", over and beyond any anticipated usage by other customers. > It's obvious that John knows nothing about the technical side of the > telephone business because any time you go outside the walls of the CO > you're going to have physical requirements: With all due respect, it is you who were unaware of the doctrine of "excess capacity". It is no secret that I have been involved with the information providing industry for over ten years as a developer and participant. I am well aware that the physical requirements of six 976 lines are no more nor less than the physical requirements of six POTS lines. Requiring the cash deposit of thousands of dollars or requiring a site to be grossly over-built is nothing more than a utility using its position of power to screw a customer base that happens to also represent competition. Significantly, since Pacific Bell has decided not to play in the information business, most of the anti-competitive practices have been terminated. Deposits are now insignificant if not non-existent (haven't ordered 976 for awhile). The arbitrary perimeter requirement has been lifted, as has the "excess facility" requirement. Pac*Bell's recharge policy is much tougher than it was -- and customers only get to do it once. Out of state callers have been cut off. And finally, recharges only amount to the IP's portion of the call -- Pac*Bell eats its own costs on every call it forgives. I appreciate your desire to defend your employer and her sisters, but it does not reflect well upon that defense to publicly tell major players and pioneers in an industry that they don't know what they are talking about. John Higdon | P.O. Box 7648 | +1 408 264 4115 | FAX: john@ati.com | San Jose, CA 95150 | +1 500 FOR-A-MOO | +1 408 264 4407 | http://www.ati.com/ati | ------------------------------ From: Schubert@nepo1.iaea.or.at (Samuel R. Schubert) Subject: In a Land With No Infrastructure, How to Connect to Internet Date: Thu, 25 May 1995 11:15:12 GMT Organization: IAEA Reply-To: Schubert@nepo1.iaea.or.at I have an urgent need to connect a site, literally in the middle of nowhere to the INTERNET. The situation is rather urgent. Money, interestingly enough, is a secondary issue. Who should I contact. I will need Satellite equipment for sure. Perhaps Radiographic transmitters etc. Could someone put me in contact with a company who can provide such a facility, anywhere on earth. The site would be stationary, so size is not a dramatic factor. Electricty may be. Please help. Thanks, SRS ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 May 95 11:25:23 EDT From: brisco@rab.ieee.org (Thomas P. Brisco) Subject: Meridian SL1 - Information Pointers? I've been working with someone locally to try and get a Fax-On-Demand system ("single call" configuration) -- and I'm attempting to have it as closely integrated into the existing environment as possible. Our Meridian reps aren't making this easy. Our tech rep indicates that our "Meridian SL1 with Option 61" can hand off an analog line. However, I also know that we're running some digital protocol between the PBX and our multi-line sets. When I inquire as to what this protocol is, he tells me "Its digital" (big help). This makes me worried about his information regarding the ability to do an analog handoff. Additionally; I've been working with a different group here as well and attempting to verify the configuration of the switch. The salescritter and tech rep claim "it can't be done". We're looking for some way to "map out" the configuration showing what calls should be going where when (this is primarily to verify that the system is configured the way that we believe it is.) To me, this sounds like a relatively straight-foward graphing problem. The tough part is getting the configuration data off the blasted machine. Again, the critters we have servicing us indicate that this is some hugely complex task -- which (frankly) I just don't believe. There's backups -- but it's on some seriously screwy *4MB* (yes, 4MB) 3.25" floppy. I'd be interested also in finding out where I could get one of these drives. Any pointers to information would be greatly appreciated. Tp. ------------------------------ From: stanford@algorhythms.com Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 11:06:56 -0400 Subject: Review -- FCC Docket # 91-281: Caller ID The requirement that Caller ID be delivered on all long distance calls by April 12 1995 was stayed by the FCC because of opposition on two primary points. 1. Some states mandate per-line Caller ID blocking, some don't. The FCC had ruled that only per-call Caller ID blocking be allowed on interstate calls. It is technically unfeasible to have per-line blocking within a state, but not on on interstate calls on the same line. California mandates that all unlisted numbers (44% of California numbers are unlisted) be automatically per-line blocked by default. 2. The long distance companies objected to being obliged to transport Caller ID without compensation. On May 4, the FCC released a new Notice of Proposed Rulemaking that addressed these two issues, and set a new date, December 1, 1995 for mandatory interstate transport of CalIer ID on all SS7 systems capable of such transport. The new Notice resolves the above issues in a fair and reasonable manner: 1. Where states allow per line call blocking, those blocked lines will be blocked for all calls, inter and intra state. Any unblocked line can be blocked for a single call by dialing *67 before the destination number. Any per-line blocked line can be unblocked for a single call by dialing *82 before the destination number. Dialing *67 on an already blocked line will yield a fast busy signal. No line (even in California) is to be per-line blocked unless the subscriber specifically requests it. Having an unlisted number is not considered to be such a request. 2. The long distance companies must transport Caller ID without compensation. The reasoning here is that if they have SS7 it doesn't cost them anything, and in any case if they charge the LEC's for transporting Caller ID on an inbound call, the LEC's will in turn charge them for providing the Caller ID on an outbound call. It is unlikely that the LEC's will charge the IXC's less for Caller ID than the IXC's charge them, so it would be a wash anyway! This ruling appears to be a big win for all telephone users, since many new and useful services will be enabled by this technology. There are many peripheral points in the ruling, including issues of caller ID blocking to emergency numbers, on payphones, on PBX's, on cellular phones, from hotels, and from various kinds of spousal abuse shelters. The ruling also requires that other CID based services, such as last number callback, be blocked for anonymous callers. The ruling also talks about ANI, and mandates restrictions on the use of ANI information. The ruling requires number delivery only, and does not require Calling Name Delivery. Caller ID is kind of like the little peephole that you have in your front door to see who is there before you open it. People who block Caller ID are like people who stick their thumbs over the peephole before they ring the bell so you can't see who is there. For those who would not open their door to a person blocking the peephole, there is an excellent service available from all LEC's called 'Anonymous Call Rejection.' If you subscribe to this service, callers who block their Caller ID when they call you are routed to a recording saying that your number does not accept anonymous calls. Your phone never rings. By the way, some countries are ahead of the USA on this technology. I called Germany from Washington DC a couple of weeks ago, and my number was delivered internationally! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 May 95 22:41:09 CDT From: Gordon S. Hlavenka Subject: Re: Last Laugh! Mike and Terry's Lawnmower Service Organization: Vpnet - Your FREE link to the Internet (708)833-8126 > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Very clever! Some real cases of name > choices though include MCI and Sprint. MCI, or Microwave Communications, > Inc. did in fact get started as a small company in central Illinois where > the owner was involved in the production and repair of microwave radio > equipment. His name long since forgotten, he got involved in a partnership ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Don't let Jack Goeken, the man behind FTD, Airfone (now GTE Airfone) and In-Flight Phone, hear you say that! When I saw him this afternoon he was as unforgettable as ever ... and, he's still involved in new telecom ventures; right now he's working on wireless local-loop. > Often times letter abbreviations simply take on a meaning of their own > and the original phrase they represented is forgotten. Does anyone > remember ... [ITT or GTE]? I know you're talking telecom here, but what about the Minnesota Mining and Manufacturing Company? Gordon S. Hlavenka cgordon@vpnet.chi.il.us [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: MMM, or 3-M as they are sometimes called, makes a variety of tape products, including 'Scotch Tape' and other tapes used for sealing boxes, etc. They also make computer diskettes and tapes used to back-up computer data. I can see where all that would be considered manufacturing, but where does the mining part come into it? PAT] ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #256 ****************************** Received: from delta.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa00363; 25 May 95 21:03 EDT Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA01320 for telecomlist-outbound; Thu, 25 May 1995 14:27:08 -0500 Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA01312; Thu, 25 May 1995 14:27:04 -0500 Date: Thu, 25 May 1995 14:27:04 -0500 From: TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson) Message-Id: <199505251927.OAA01312@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #257 TELECOM Digest Thu, 25 May 95 14:27:00 CDT Volume 15 : Issue 257 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Re: Unusual RF Stories (Kevin Magloughlin) Re: Unusual RF Stories (John Woods) Re: Telephone Voice "Broadcast" Software? (Steve Cogorno) Re: Telephone Voice "Broadcast" Software? (Mike Sandman) Re: Telephone Voice "Broadcast" Software? (Robert Virzi) Re: Auction All the Spectrum (Ed Mitchell) Infrastructure Conference in Atlanta (Barbara F. Hanes) Troubles With NYNEX Voice Mail? (Steve Samler) Looking For ETSI Documentation Online? (George E. Cabanas) Is it Northern or Nortel? (Holly Fenn) CD Changer For Music on Hold (Jerry Aguirre) Need One Mile PC Communications (Randy Constan) Independent Category 5 Cable Evaluations (Jean McGillivray) Clarifications to Oregon PUC Ruling on Area Code Split (Robert Hansen) Low Cost Router Alternatives? (art@ritz.mordor.com) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of public service systems and networks including Compuserve and America On Line. It is also gatewayed to Usenet where it appears as the moderated newsgroup 'comp.dcom.telecom'. Subscriptions are available to qualified organizations and individual readers. Write and tell us how you qualify: * telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu * The Digest is edited, published and compilation-copyrighted by Patrick Townson of Skokie, Illinois USA. You can reach us by postal mail, fax or phone at: 9457-D Niles Center Road Skokie, IL USA 60076 Phone: 500-677-1616 Fax: 708-329-0572 ** Article submission address only: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu ** Our archives are located at lcs.mit.edu and are available by using anonymous ftp. The archives can also be accessed using our email information service. For a copy of a helpful file explaining how to use the information service, just ask. ************************************************************************* * TELECOM Digest is partially funded by a grant from the * * International Telecommunication Union (ITU) in Geneva, Switzerland * * under the aegis of its Telecom Information Exchange Services (TIES) * * project. 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Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kmagloughlin@delphi.com Subject: Unusual RF Stories Date: Thu, 25 May 95 04:17:20 -0500 Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice) Pat - In your reply to my article, you asked why the engineer at the station in North Carolina was hearing the same program material at his board, with his station off the air, as you were in Chicago. My only conclusion would be both stations were receiving the same network feed at the same time. I suspect this was quite some time ago,before putting program feeds on satelite which would certainly limit the number of available feeds. Did you check the affiliation of the station in North Carolina, by chance? I would say this is why both places in the country had common programs when you made your phone call. Kevin Magloughlin KA0JQO KMAGLOUGHLIN@DELPHI.COM [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: No, I did not specifically inquire if the program on WBBM was being fed to the network, but I seriously doubt that it was; it was a locally originated discussion program airing in the middle of the night. Anyway, I don't think the station in North Carolina was a CBS affiliate. Good point though. PAT] ------------------------------ From: John.Woods@proteon.com (John Woods) Subject: Re: Unusual RF Stories Organization: Proteon, Inc., Westborough, Ma. Date: Thu, 25 May 1995 14:12:45 GMT kmagloughlin@delphi.com writes: > You were writing about receiving a carrier on 660 Khz that turned out > to be WBBM right there in Chicago. The explanation given about > subtracting this from that gives 660 Khz is not really the answer in > that situation. What you had there is a 2A-B mix occurance and most > likely was happening in your receiver. > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: How does that explain the engineer at the > station in North Carolina telling me he could hear the same thing as > myself on the board over there when his AM station was off the air? PAT] If the antennas of the two radio stations were *very* close, and if there was any significantly large metal object in somewhat poor repair near both antennas (and I've heard of BC antenna farms that looked like scrap metal dumps), then a rusty joint could easily act as a crude diode, which would then act as an RF mixer to combine the two signals, generate the 2A-B mixing product, and then reradiate it. I wouldn't expect that to generate more than a couple of watts, even if located very close to two high-power transmitters, but if propagation was just right, the NC engineer could have heard the signal if the channel was otherwise quiet. (Unless the engineer was using a very sensitive receiver, in which case good propagation could have resulted in local generation of the spurious signal -- 2A-B calculates out to the same result regardless of where you are. Were there any stations on the two real channels in his area? If so, he would have been likely to hear *them* mixing, not the Chicago stations.) [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Quite a few years ago when we had a local, daytime only station here on 820 called WAIT, they would always go off the air at sundown, meaning in the winter as early as 4:30 pm some days and during the summer as late as 8:30 pm. It was always fun to catch them just as they were going off the air for the day since the second they powered down the transmitter a station from Toronto, Ontario (might have been CJR, not sure) would come booming in like gangbusters, loud and clear right on the same spot. I think I mentioned the two neighborhood kids here who got me to fix them up with an old tube radio that I had diddled with the IF on so it could be heard around the neighborhood with a little luck. They were back the other day, *pulling in a wagon* an old floor model Philco radio from about 1930. They had got it for a few dollars out of someone's garage sale. Since the cord had a short in it and the lightbulb over the tuning dial was burned out the original owners assumed it was unusable. I replaced the cord and the lightbulb, cleaned it up a little, dusted the insides out good and checked all the tubes. It worked just fine, and some of the tubes were new, or never used. We turned it on and got quite a few local stations. Those old floor model radios had great big speakers in them which made them sound great, just like Grundigs. But I said, "kids! you want to really hear this radio talking? ..." I got in the back and clipped onto the antenna leads with about fifty feet of wire which we strung out the window and along the side of my house. We came back inside and that radio was screaming. With its big huge tuning dial, stations all over the USA were easy to hear. I told them you wait until later on tonight, or maybe late on a hot summer night in August and turn this on. You haven't heard anything yet. Of course it had no FM, but it had four shortwave bands plus AM. The AM band was numbered up to 1750 kc of all things, and the area from 1650 to 1750 was labeled 'police'. They thought that was pretty funny and I explained that fifty or sixty years ago police used *one way* broadcast stations around that range in their cars. The police dispatchers would make announcements but that's all, and the police would then drive to wherever they heard mentioned on the radio. I helped them load it back in their little wagon and they took it home. I hope their parents let them keep it to play with. PAT] ------------------------------ From: cogorno@netcom.com (Steve Cogorno) Subject: Re: Telephone Voice "Broadcast" Software Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 18:18:11 PDT Harold Hallikainen wrote: > Anyway, the school where I teach is interested in software > that would do something similar to a fax broadcast, but it would be > voice. They'd have a list of the students in a particular class and > if the class were cancelled, the system could call each of them and > let them know. It SEEMS like this could be an option on the school's > phone system (I don't remember who made it), since it does have voice > mail and all sorts of fancy features. But I'm wondering if there's > some simple PC software that could also do it. I'm running SuperVoice > 2 with a Maxtech voice/data/fax modem and am quite pleased with it. I > spoke with the publisher of SuperVoice yesterday and they did not have > any voice broadcast software. So, anything like this around? > SuperVoice 2 with modem was about $70. It'd be real nice to find > something in this price area. This should not be hard to find; many schools have similar set-ups. All 22 high schools in the San Jose Unifed School District and the East Side Union High School District (both in San Jose, CA) have auto dialing systems connected to their attendance systems. The physical box is located at each campus, so it can't be too expensive, but I'm sure that *ANY* kind of system is going to cost you a lot more than $70. I think that $1000 to $4000 might be more accurate. The attendance dialer setup is actually quite interesting: the teachers have ScanTron sheets printed for each class with each student's name. They mark absent/tardy/etc. and the sheets get scanned right after school ends. Around four o'clock, the computer system starts calling the homes of absent students. The message is English, Spanish, Vietnamese, or Filipino depending on the what language is spoken at home (the computer has a record of the language and just passes a code to the dialer). It has apparently save the school district quite a bit of money, because it used to take a staff person 6 hours a day just to let parents know their child wasn't in school. Also, attendance increased around 5% and the schools were able to recover the cost of the equipment many times over in state funding (California funds schools by the number of days each student is in attendance). ------------------------------ From: mike@sandman.com (Mike Sandman) Subject: Re: Telephone Voice "Broadcast" Software? Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 21:43:06 LOCAL Organization: InterAccess, Chicago's best Internet Service Provider Harold Hallikainen wrote: >> Anyway, the school where I teach is interested in software >> that would do something similar to a fax broadcast, but it would be >> voice. They'd have a list of the students in a particular class and >> if the class were cancelled, the system could call each of them and >> let them know. It SEEMS like this could be an option on the school's >> phone system (I don't remember who made it), since it does have voice >> mail and all sorts of fancy features. But I'm wondering if there's >> some simple PC software that could also do it. I'm running SuperVoice >> 2 with a Maxtech voice/data/fax modem and am quite pleased with it. I >> spoke with the publisher of SuperVoice yesterday and they did not have >> any voice broadcast software. So, anything like this around? >> SuperVoice 2 with modem was about $70. It'd be real nice to find >> something in this price area. I just read in this week's {PC Magazine} that Creative Lab's new Phone Blaster card will do what you want. They had a review of a bunch of inexpensive voice mail type systems. It seemed like it said that it might not be out yet, but I'm not sure. Good luck, Mike ------------------------------ From: rv01@gte.com (Robert Virzi) Subject: Re: Telephone Voice "Broadcast" Software? Date: 24 May 1995 19:31:28 GMT Organization: GTE Laboratories, Waltham, MA > Harold Hallikainen wrote: >> Anyway, the school where I teach is interested in software >> that would do something similar to a fax broadcast, but it would be >> voice. They'd have a list of the students in a particular class and >> if the class were cancelled, the system could call each of them and >> let them know. >> But I'm wondering if there's >> some simple PC software that could also do it. and paraprasing here, Harold said, for about $70. David K. Leikam responded: > Well, nothing *I* am aware of, that I'd trust to do a halfway decent job. > Thinking about the problems of reliability sorta starts me towards a fair > sized headache ... (deep breath) > I suppose we *could* build something like this, that you could expect, > oh, an 80% reliability rate out of. But it would cost orders of magnitude > more, even if you didn't want maintenance or support. If you think about > the problems for a minute or two, you'll see why. (Did we get an > answering machine? If so, do we have a beep yet? What kind of beep? Has > the beep ended, and can we talk now? Did we get a forward to a pager? If > so, what number to we tell 'em to dial.? Are we talking to a person? Is > it the right person, i.e, do we want to do voice-recognition at all? Do > we want to be interactive? Do we want to deal with the 30% of the > population that doesn't have touch-tone service?) So David says, basically, 'No'. Or at least not for less than $2k - $10k. I think you are over engineering the solution. This is for a school. Most of the numbers that the kids have are POTS lines, nothing fancy like pagers and the like. Answering machines need to be dealt with, true. But generally the particular population might really benefit from a cheap, somewhat reliable system, rather than no system. Why not simply call through the list, playing the message on offhook, repeating the message until (a) the line is released or (b) 90 seconds has elapsed? If a person gets it, they listen to it, or have some time to call Mom over to the phone to hear the message. If its an answering machine, they get 90 seconds of the message (minus the time for the OGM) on the tape. Should be pretty simple for the system to track busy/no answer and call those numbers back. I'm not suggesting this is a bulletproof system. Far from it. But the requirements don't seem to call for one. If this user population knows about the system, it will work even better because parents will be hanging by waiting for the call to hear soccer is cancelled because of rain. This kind of simple system could be built on a Mac, and I'm guessing an Intel processor as well. For not much money, and a little development time. Bob Virzi rvirzi@gte.com Just another ascii character... +1(617)466-2881 ------------------------------ From: Ed Mitchell Date: Wed, 24 May 95 11:48:13 PDT Subject: Re: Auction All the Spectrum > When a company like McCaw sells to AT&T for $17 billion, it's easy > enough to infer the value of the FCC licenses in the transaction. On > that basis, the commercial spectrum currently used for broadcast, > cellular telephone, satellite and so on is worth somewhere between > $100 billion and $300 billion. The value of any property depends upon supply and demand. If all spectrum were suddenly put up for auction, the supply would suddenly be in excess of the demand. The result is that the value of the spectrum would fall until the price met the demand. Therefore, figures determined by multiplying the price of today's "scarce" commodity into infinity are appealing to justify a massive spectrum auction -- but the actual earnings are likely to be considerably less. Indeed, some prognasticators believe a lot of PCS buyers will be broke in five years and excess spectrum will go for sale at reduced prices. One advantage of assigning a $ value to a piece of spectrum is that the spectrum may be used more efficiently. Why spend billions for more MHz if converting to the latest whizbang digital thingamajigger will increase the effective bandwidth?The effect of deploying better technology is to create "virtual spectrum". And it may very well be cheaper to deploy technology than to buy spectrum. If, for example, CDMA enables a 10x capacity improvement for a given service, then we create have an excess of virtual spectrum. (What was once 1 MHz becomes equivalent to today's 10 MHz slice -- kind of like multiplying all spectrum by a factor of 10). Spectrum auctions state that the *only* valid use of radio spectrum is that which makes money. Any other use is not essential. But there are bonafide uses of the spectrum that are not measured (or easily measured) in a strict dollar value. For example, suppose we auction the marine frequencies and the cost of putting a two-way radio on a boat increases substantially to pay for the marine channels -- leading to people not putting radios on boats and decreasing the safety of the marine environment (I live near Puget Sound...). You push in on one side of the balloon and the cost pops out somewhere else. How about aviation? What about Amateur Radio and public access services? We currently have no experiencing selling spectrum for anything but cellular/PCS-like services. We need to move slowly to understand the impact and determine if such impacts are truly what we want. The last thing we want is to, say, auction the marine frequencies, then turn around and from a government subsidy program to ensure equal access to marine safety communications. Ed Mitchell edmitch@aol.com kf7vy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 11:57:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Barbara F. Hanes Subject: Infrastructure Conference in Atlanta "Infrastructure: the Framework for Development," a conference sponsored by the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta and the Policy Research Center of Georgia State University will be held on June 15 and 16, 1995, at the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta, 104 Marietta Street, Atlanta, Georgia. This conference features nationally recognized experts -- economists, consultants, and industry executives -- speaking on critical issues facing traditional infrastructure industries like transportation and utilities as well as telecommunications. In addition to considering the regulatory framework and other important issues, this conference will address capital budgeting at the state level and the role of the private sector in infrastructure financing. Program speakers include Ned Gramlich, director of the Institute of Public Policy Studies at the University of Michigan; Wallace Hawkes of Greiner, Inc.; Tom Bradshaw of Smith Barney; Keith Bishop of the California Business, Transportation, and Housing Agency; and Steve Hewlett, Tennessee's Public Service Commissioner. Registration fee is $85. For further information call Ms. Jess Palazzolo at (404) 521-8747. To register, call (404) 521-8999 for an automated conference RSVP message. Barbara F. Frolik Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta (404) 521-8867 FAX:(404) 521-8572 bfrolik@solinet.net ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 May 1995 09:44:05 EDT From: Steve Samler Subject: Troubles With NYNEX Voice Mail? I've heard of and experienced some problems with Nynex's c.o. based voice mail. I called someone yesterday (5/25) and when they didn't pick up I heard "You have reached the Nynex message center. Please enter the phone phone number of the person you are calling ..." Eventually I heard their greeting and was able to leave a message. This same person has told me that she has called other Nynex voice mail subscribers and instead of getting their greeting heard the subscriber menu for picking up messages. Does anyone know what is going on? Anyone out there from Nynex that can shed some light? [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Supposedly your call goes in to voicemail on a DID trunk which shows who was being called in order to come up with the appropriate answer phrase or greeting. I think sometimes the system fails for whatever reason and voicemail does not know who is calling whom, so it has to ask you. People with telco voicemail might also try this little trick and see what happens: have you noticed how when you dial into the main number using the phone number assigned it does not ask you to enter your mail- box number? It already knows who you are, and just asks for your pass- word. Now try calling the main number but using *67 first ... does it still know who you are and merely ask for your password, or do you get the introductory part about 'please enter the number of the mailbox you are calling." I am told in some telcos they say to heck with that *67 business on calls to them; the privacy flag is ignored when you call into a telco function such as voicemail. How does it work in your community? PAT] ------------------------------ From: gec@panix.com (George E. Cabanas) Subject: Looking For ETSI Documentation Online? Date: 25 May 1995 10:03:22 -0400 Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC Looking for ETSI recommendations online. Does anyone know if it exists? I'm looking for something similar to ITU gopher. Thanks in advance, George gec@panix.com ------------------------------ From: hfenn@mathworks.com (Holly Fenn) Subject: Is it Northern or Nortel? Date: Thu, 25 May 1995 11:55:33 -0400 Organization: The MathWorks, Inc. I purchased a Northern 61C Meridian system loaded with Meridian mail, IVR, CCR, ACD, Meridian MAX, and Meridian Link. For six months I have had the worst service and support through Nortel. Has anyone else had the same problem? I came from a 12 year ROLM background so I have nothing to compare this too. I can't figure out if my frustration lies within Nortel's organization, or if Northern just isn't the technological giant it markets itself to be? Any feedback and/or recommendations on an alternative service provider would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Holly Fenn hfenn@mathworks.com The MathWorks, Inc. info@mathworks.com 24 Prime Park Way http://www.mathworks.com Natick, MA 01760-1500 ftp.mathworks.com Phone: 508-653-1415 ext. 4395 Fax: 508-650-6725 ------------------------------ From: jerry@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Jerry Aguirre) Subject: CD Changer For Music on Hold Date: 25 May 1995 03:42:51 GMT Organization: Olivetti ATC; Cupertino, CA; USA I am thinking about getting a CD changer and feeding it into the music on hold port of our PBX. Any negative issues to doing this? I would appreciate any experience people have with particular models or features that make this more practical. Any speculation on how long a CD changer would last in continuous loop 24 hour a day use? ------------------------------ From: rconstan@gate.net (RC) Subject: Need One Mile PC Communications Date: 25 May 1995 16:16:01 GMT We're using reachout between two PCs, but the nominal 9600-28K baud rates available between the machines is not quite fast enough for the customers needs. However, the machines are one mile apart, and the customer is willing to string his own wire if necessary to gain thruput. Unfortunately, high speed phone lines are simply not available in this area. But it seems to me that a mile is not too far fetched for the right kind of direct connection. If anyone is familliar enough with the possible off the shelf solutions, please email me. Thanks in advance. Randy ------------------------------ From: jmcgill@cit.hmc.psu.edu (Jean McGillivray) Subject: Independent Category 5 Cable Evaluations Date: 25 May 1995 19:37:45 GMT Organization: Penn State College of Medicine Reply-To: jmcgill@cit.hmc.psu.edu We are interested in reviewing Category 5 cable and manufacturers to compare technical specifications and *actual* performance. Would someone please provide references to either an Internet site or independent testing organization who might be able to provide this level of detail? Please respond directly to jmcgill@cit.hmc.psu.edu. Thank you, Jean McGillivray Penn State College of Medicine Center for Information Technology jmcgill@cit.hmc.psu.edu ------------------------------ From: hansenr@ohsu.EDU (Robert Hansen) Subject: Clarifications to Oregon PUC Ruling on Area Code Split Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 20:05:41 GMT Organization: Oregon Health Sciences University On May 4, 1995, the Oregon PUB approved a new area code plan. On the original PUC list of exchanges, the Stayton exchange was inadvertently included on both the 503 and 541 area code lists. Stayton is assigned to the 503 area code. In addition, the Independence-Monmouth exchange was originally listed on the 503 list under the name "Independence" using the industry terminology. In order to avoid customer confusion, the name "Monmouth" has been added to the 503 list. ROBERT A. HANSEN Telecommunications Department Oregon Health Sciences University Portland, Oregon USA (503) 494-9160 [until 6/30/95] ------------------------------ From: art@ritz.mordor.com (ZEI) Subject: Low Cost Router Alternatives? Organization: ZEI Software - Client Server Business Solutions Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 20:08:14 GMT Does anyone swear by a super low cost router alternative that can migrate from 56K to T1? I am interested in reliability / problems / costs. I imagine this working with Linux / ethernet on intel box. Art art@zei.com ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #257 ****************************** Received: from delta.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa00963; 25 May 95 22:02 EDT Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA03566 for telecomlist-outbound; Thu, 25 May 1995 15:36:11 -0500 Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA03557; Thu, 25 May 1995 15:36:07 -0500 Date: Thu, 25 May 1995 15:36:07 -0500 From: TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson) Message-Id: <199505252036.PAA03557@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #258 TELECOM Digest Thu, 25 May 95 15:36:00 CDT Volume 15 : Issue 258 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Telecoms Newsline - an E-zine About UK Telecoms (Peter Judge) Re: Unusual RF Stories (Richard Jennings) Re: Unusual RF Stories (A. Padgett Peterson) Re: What is the Exact Meaning of POTS? (Gerald Serviss) Telecom history (Greg Schumacher) Re: Chicago Area Internet Providers Wanted (Kevin Martin) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of public service systems and networks including Compuserve and America On Line. It is also gatewayed to Usenet where it appears as the moderated newsgroup 'comp.dcom.telecom'. Subscriptions are available to qualified organizations and individual readers. Write and tell us how you qualify: * telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu * The Digest is edited, published and compilation-copyrighted by Patrick Townson of Skokie, Illinois USA. 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Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 07:24:33 GMT From: Peter Judge Reply-To: peter@techapp.demon.co.uk Subject: Telecoms Newsline - an e-zine about UK telecoms [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Quite a bit of this issue will be given over to a look at a relatively new telecom publication published in the UK but available on the internet. If you like it, sign up! I hope this mention will help Peter Judge obtain a lot of good subscribers. PAT] Hello, Telecoms Newsline is an independent bulletin of UK telecoms market news, sponsored by Hewlett-Packard. I attach a brief description suitable for posting, and a sample copy. Subscription details are included. 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To unsubscribe, mail to # # No message is required. # # # # Editorial comments or questions please mail to # # # ############################################################# ################################################################# # # # Telecoms Newsline # # A News Service for Telecoms Professionals # # Sponsored by Hewlett Packard # # # # Issue 10: 16 May 1995 # # # ################################################################# ==> In this issue: ==> MCI and Murdoch: alliance of giants ==> BSkyB comes down to earth for cable ==> Fighting phone fraud ==> Swedes fail to make turnips out of BT ==> A tactical error by BT? ==> TINA: telecoms middleware arrives ==> Italians help Mercury take flight again ==> The last thing Mercury needs is Analysys ==> Hey, big spender ==> HP in Franco-German ATM and German GSM ==> Drenched RBOC upgrades ==> Operators count the cost of phone tapping ==> Hutchison to provide 200 jobs ==> HP wins the Cup ******************************************************* * Hewlett-Packard's home page is at http://www.hp.com * * HP Labs' home page is at http://hplose.hpl.hp.com * ******************************************************* MCI and Murdoch: alliance of giants ----------------------------------- MCI is to invest $2bn, the equivalent of a 13.5% stake, in Rupert Murdoch's News Corp over the next four years in a global joint venture, with MCI providing the means of distribution and News Corp providing content. Previous attempts to marry telecoms and entertainment have come unstuck, with last year's failed merger of Bell Atlantic and TCI being the most spectacular example. News Corp's assets include extensive film, TV and publishing interests. MCI, the US' second largest long distance carrier, has pioneered mass Internet access. At the moment, the companies are giving no details of exactly what services they plan to offer, but say they are likely to be business information orientated, rather than consumer entertainment. Apparently services will begin this year. Last-mile delivery mechanisms will include satellite receivers, radio and cable TV networks. BT, which owns 20% of MCI, has professed itself pleased to be involved in such an enterprise, even at one remove. It has long argued against the government policy which prevents it from providing broadcast services in the UK, in order to protect the fledgling cable TV companies until the next century. MCI's alliance with News Corp is likely to help Murdoch in his US regulatory struggle over his ownership of Fox TV. BSkyB comes down to earth for cable ----------------------------------- Two of the UK's largest cable TV operators, Nynex CableComms and TeleWest Communications, have agreed to carry BSkyB's nine channels and the pay per view channel it plans to launch later this year. They reserve the right to launch their own channels if they wish and to transmit whatever programmes they wish. At least for these two companies for the moment, it will bring to an end the acrimony that exists between BSkyB and the cable operators. Fighting phone fraud -------------------- The UK's four cellular operators (Vodafone, Cellnet, One2One and Orange) have joined forces with handset manufacturers and service providers in an attempt to stamp out fraud - which costs the UK industry UKP50m annually. The four operators have stumped up UKP650,000 to set up a team of undercover investigators to catch dishonest dealers who connect stolen mobile phones to the networks, signalling their willing- ness to do so, with slogans like `Previous history no problem'. Swedes fail to make turnips out of BT ------------------------------------- Telia, the Swedish state-owned operator, has failed to keep a consortium headed by BT out of its domestic market. BT's partners are Tele Danmark and Telenor of Norway; their joint company is to be called Telenordia and they will own and fund it equally. Telia appealed to the EU to block the venture on the grounds that the Danish and Norwegian markets are closed to competition, but the Commission dismissed the complaint. Such judgements are becoming increasingly complex; Telia is one of the founding partners of the Unisource consortium which is becoming more closely affiliated to AT&T and its would-be world-domination vehicle, WorldPartners. Needless to say, they view BT and its global joint venture with MCI, Concert, as their greatest rival. Telenordia has already said it will spend US$276m in the attempt to capture 10% of the Swedish market by the end of the century. Existing Tele Danmark and BT business will be taken over by Telenordia and while Concert will offer Swedish corporations worldwide data and voice services, the new company is to focus on intra-nordic region traffic which amounts to half of Sweden's international traffic. In Sweden Telenordia will offer closed user group voice and data transmission as well as PSTN services. A tactical error by BT? ----------------------- BT could regret involving the Monopolies and Mergers Commission (MMC) in its dispute with Oftel over who should bear the cost of implementing number portability (see TN8). The Government is coming under growing pressure to strengthen competition law, making consumers' welfare the primary concern. This goal could lead to the Office of Fair Trading (OFT) and the MMC being merged into a single organisation, a step backed by the outgoing Director General of the OFT, Sir Bryan Carsberg. The Labour Party has added its support to the cause of stiffening competition law and it is an open secret that Sir Bryan, who is leaving OFT half-way through his five year term of office, is exasperated by the Government's neglect of competition policy since Mr Michael Heseltine took charge of the DTI in 1992. Sir Bryan, the first Director General of Oftel, says UK compet- ition law lacks teeth, with no rules banning anti- competitive agreements and no means to enforce what little competition law we have. The UK and the Netherlands are the only countries not to have adopted rules based on articles 85 and 86 of the EC Treaty. These prohibit price fixing and market-sharing agreements, abuses of market power by monopolies and impose fines of up to 10% of worldwide turnover for offenders. No wonder these have not been taken up in the UK; some of the cornerstones of telecoms policy would have to go immediately including the RPI-7.5% price cap fixed by Oftel on BT and the apportioning of access deficit cont- ribution charges if BT slips to less than an 85% market share. ==> TN wonders... what if someone objects to an OFT/MMC merger? ==> Where would the matter be referred? Telecoms middleware - TINA paves the way ---------------------------------------- The telecoms industry is a step closer to a standard architect- ure for services and management software, with the launch of telecoms-specific middleware which merges distributed computing with telecoms. In July 1995, Hewlett-Packard will ship a middleware product based on Bellcore's Information Networking Architecture (INA) framework. It will be a first step towards the specifications from the ambitious TINA-C (Telecommunications Industry Networking Architecture Consortium) as they are published. TINA-C is a coalition of service providers and suppliers aiming to produce an open, next generation architecture for telecoms by 1997. HP is a member (represented by HP LABs, Bristol), alongside 40 other leading companies including AT&T, IBM, Digital, NEC, Fujitsu, NT, Ericsson, Siemens, Alcatel, Nokia, NTT, BT and France Telecom. TINA's work is being done at Bellcore in New Jersey, where INA was developed. Both TINA and INA include a software backplane for applications to plug into, called the Distributed Processing Environment (DPE), and based on distributed object technologies such as the Object Management Group's CORBA and the Open Software Foundation's DCE. Bellcore showed its prototype earlier this year with sample ATM applications; HP's product will also include OpenView DM. HP, Bellcore and other ISVs are working on applications which use DPE. TINA and INA are well grounded in the standards world: they refer to the ITU's Telecommunications Management Network (TMN), ISO's reference model for open distributed processing (RM-ODP), Intelligent Network (IN), and Network Management Forum work. Italians help Mercury take flight again --------------------------------------- An Italian company, Industria Politecnica Meridonale looks set to take over Mercury Communications' 2,873 public payphone sites, for an undisclosed price. Divesting itself of payphones was part of the cost cutting plan set out last December, after Mercury's interim results revealed falling profits despite growing revenue. The Italian firm makes telephone equipment in Naples and operates around 200,000 payphones in Italy. It is awaiting a licence from the DTI to operate payphones. Unlike Mercury's card-only phones, the new Italian payphones will take cards and coins. To add insult to injury for Mercury, BT's Patricia Vaz has been named Veuve Cliquot Businesswoman of the Year. Her achievement? Turning BT's payphone business from running at a 46m loss in 1990 when she was put in charge of it to making a 74m profit in 1993-94. She also radically increased their reliability and upped the number of BT payphones nationwide from 97,000 to 130,000. The last thing Mercury needs is Analysys ---------------------------------------- Consultancy Analysys reckons that for UK residential customers and businesses with fewer than six lines cable operators and BT are cheaper than Mercury. Apparently for those with more than 12 lines, Mercury is still more economic. Analysys' conclusion was reached via calculations of average line costs for most European carriers. Mercury commented that the definition of an average customer could be misleading; its business has never been in the provision of local telephony nor for very low volume users. Hey, big spender ---------------- BT invests more money in technology than any other UK business according to a survey conducted by Corporate IT Strategy magazine. It spent almost UKP580m last year, UKP200m more than the second largest IT spender, GEC. British Gas came third with UKP313m. However, Reuters was streets ahead of everyone else in terms of the percentage of turnover spent on technology; it invests over 10%. On this scale, BT came seventh, at 4.4%. HP in Franco-German ATM and German GSM -------------------------------------- Deutsche Telekom and France Telecom will use HP's OpenView DM to manage their common ATM network, using extensions from Debis Systemhaus, Germany, and CAP SESA, France. Meanwhile DeTeMobil, Deutsche Telekom's subsidiary and Germany's largest mobile network operator, is to run the geographical information systems used for planning its GSM network, and some customer care system, on HP systems. The deal may eventually be worth around $3.5 million. ==> Not surprisingly, HP's UK manufacturing divisions won a Queen's Award for Export Achievement in 1995. With UKP 445 million in 1994, the company is the UK's 39th largest exporter. Drenched RBOC upgrades ---------------------- Meanwhile, in the US, AT&T keeps its finger in the RBOCs' pie by selling them IT systems... and those systems use Hewlett-Packard equipment. At US West, HP delivered two systems overnight, when the RBOC's legacy loop management systems were overloaded by high service call-outs due to rain - and won an order for eight more machines. Another deal at Pacific Bell, for systems to supporvideo, could be worth $15 million. Operators count the cost of phone tapping ----------------------------------------- A row has erupted in Germany between the government and mobile phone network operators after operators were told to modify their systems so that the police could eavesdrop on criminals. It is likely to cost the operators - Deutsche Telekom, MannesmanMobilfunk and E-Plus - a total of about UKP114m to change their digital networks to comply. They argue they should not have to pay, as the civil service should have made official eavesdropping a condition of the licences it awarded in 1989. Hutchison to provide 200 jobs ----------------------------- Hutchison Telecom is to create 200 jobs in a UKP3m expansion of its Darlington-based HQ which is to be the main base for customer service operations for the Orange PCN and paging services. HP wins the Cup --------------- Hewlett-Packard is over the moon to have wrested the prized World Cup IT deal from Sun Microsystems. TV coverage of the 1998 Cup, held in France and watched by 37 million people, will feature HP's name. Soccer enthusiast HP announced earlier this year plans to sponsor Tottenham Hotspur from the 1995/6 season. 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To unsubscribe, mail to # # No message is required. # # # # Editorial comments or questions please mail to # # # ############################################################# ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 May 1995 19:21:30 +0100 From: C-News owner c/o Richi Subject: Re: Unusual RF Stories Date: Thu, 25 May 1995 18:10:25 GMT Organization: Hewlett-Packard EMO-Pinewood, UK Ed Ellers wrote: >> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: It was during the Second World War that >> the radio stations in the USA went through a frequency realignment > That was actually before Pearl Harbor -- most of the AM stations in North > America had to change channels on the same day, in March 1941. This was a Ahem. Us Europeans might like to remind everyone that the 2WW started in 1939. Richard Jennings, Software Specialist. [|< [\] PADI RD EMO Pinewood, home of HP's advanced messaging solutions. Hewlett-Packard Voice: (+44)/(0)1344 763738 A=GOLD 400 Nine Mile Ride Fax: (+44)/(0)1344 763526 OU=HP1600 O=hp Wokingham RG40 3LL e-mail: richi@hpopd.pwd.hp.com G=Richard P=hp England or: richi@hpopd.pwd.hp.co.uk S=Jennings C=GB [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: You are of course correct, and so was I in my original statement. The war did begin in 1939, but the United States did not get involved until Sunday, December 7, 1941 following the attack in Hawaii. There are a number of theories behind the attack which thrust us into the war; those are best left for other forums. All I will say here is that President Roosevelt was just *itching* to get into it right from the beginning, but he had no valid excuse for sticking his nose where it did not belong until that Sunday morning ... FDR wanted to get in the war so badly he could taste it. A good war works wonders for the economy you know. PAT] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 May 95 10:22:23 -0400 From: padgett@tccslr.dnet.mmc.com (A. Padgett Peterson) Subject: Re: Unusual RF Stories > WEFM was almost certainly the first FM station in the Midwest, but it was > by no means the first in the U.S. -- that was Major Armstrong's own > W2XMN, outside New York City. Would like to suggest the book "Empire of the Air" (also a documentary) for a slightly biased account of early radio in the US. Have to take some of it with a grain of salt (few items I knew about did not jibe, for instance had Cmdr. McDonald holding up adoption of color TV by Zenith until 1961 -- neat trick since he died in 1958). > (Of course the station is now WUSN -- I wonder what Commander > McDonald would think of *those* initials on "his" station...:-) Probably not much, the "Commander" was a Navy rank earned in WW1 and the Naval excursion of 1924 played a big part in making Zenith a success. Warmly, Padgett PS: amazing the overlaps on the net - I also collect Zenith TransOceanics. PPS: of course it took two years and some intense lobbying, but Sarnoff did make "General" so outranked both McDonald and Armstrong. ----- and now back to telecom ----- [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Oh indeed, Zenith made out like bandits during the Second War as well; so did all of the defense contractors including RCA, and I might add, Western Electric/AT&T. The manufacture of telephone instruments was suspended from 1942 through early in 1946 when Western Electric 'went to war'. There was such a shortage of phone instruments during that time that if you had an extension phone in your house the patriotic thing to do when the phone company called on you was to give it up in order that the instrument might be used to provide service for other people who had could not obtain a phone instrument at all. Lots of people gave their extension phones back to telco so that needy subscribers could be serviced while Western Electric was unavailable due to wartime production for the armed forces. That is one of the reasons it took so long to get Chicago converted from manual service (beginning in 1939) to completely dial service (in 1951). About one third of the city was coverted to automatic dialing when the USA got into WW-2 and the government seized Western Electric for its own requirements. Once the war ended Western Electric was allowed to resume normal manufacturing for AT&T beginning early in 1946. It is worth noting also that during WW-2, military personnel were given priority status on AT&T long distance circuits. If all circuits from point A to B were busy and a military commander (as an example) needed to make a call, the operator would select a trunk -- yours, or whoever she saw first -- and tell you, 'sorry, line is needed for priority call in the war effort.' Then she pulled the cords down and that was that. Also, telephone books and other advertising by AT&T warned against the use of the telephone to discuss military secrets. For example your son or husband was in the military, off in Germany or the UK or the South Pacific or the North Atlantic or wherever. Finally you got word that he would be able to speak with you on the phone at a certain time, and the AT&T operator would put the call through while the whole family waited anxiously by the phone, each one wanting to get at least a few seconds of conversation in with their father, their brother, husband or whatever. But the AT&T ads in the newspapers and the phone directories plainly warned, "Loose lips sink ships. When conversing with a military person on the telephone, please do not ask him to compromise our nation's security by discussing military secrets to which he may have knowledge. There may be so much he wants to tell you, but cannot, because of the war, and you never know when the telephone lines may have been sabatoged by the enemy ....'. (From {Chicago Tribune} AT&T advertisement, 1944). ------------------------------ From: serviss@tazdevil.cig.mot.com (Gerald Serviss) Subject: Re: What is the Exact Meaning of POTS? Date: 24 May 1995 14:57:00 GMT Organization: Cellular Infrastructure Group, Motorola Gareth J. Evans wrote: > POTS - Plain Ordinary Telephone System > PANS - Potentially Attractive New Services > CUPS - Customer Unspecified Private Services I was at an AIN (Advanced Intelligent Network) COMFORUM when I heard PANS . The definition given then was: Pretty Amazing New Services Jerry Serviss Motorola Inc serviss@cig.mot.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 12:29:55 EDT From: Greg Schumacher Subject: Telecom History Pat, I have a question that is somewhat tangential to the serious telecom discussions usually found here for the telecom historians or veterans. Last weekend I was at a yardsale and while poking through the piles of books found one titled "Principles of Electricity applied to Telephone and Telegraph Work 1953 Edition". Scanning through it briefly, I found some intresting photos and diagrams of cross bar and step by step switches. And at $1 it was a deal I could not pass up. Later upon closer examination, it turns out to be "A Training Course Text Prepared for Employees of the Long Lines Department, American Telegraph and Telephone Company, January 1953" being a revision to a 1938 edition. My question is this: The frontispiece is a photo of a statue labeled "Spirit of Communication". The statue is a winged nude male in the classic roman style holding up 3 lightning bolts in his left hand and holding the end of a thick cable in his right hand. This cable is coiled around his arm and midriff providing "some" modesty. Does anybody know the origin or location of this statue and where it is today? PS. This book has a couple of paragraphs about transisters, pulse code modulation and todays T carriers (though not named as such in the book.) Greg Schumacher, Director of Systems Engineering & Advanced Research Priority Call Management 226 Lowell St., MS A-2 Wilmington, MA 01887 gregs@world.std.com 508-694-2762 voice Greg_D._Schumacher@wirelessnow.com 508-694-2762 FAX Greg_Schumacher@bcsmac.org [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: It was -- still is? -- at the AT&T Building on Broadway in lower Manhattan. A picture of that statue was also the standard back cover of Bell System telephone directories for many years, and quite a few business offices, including the one in downtown Chicago had replicas of it. The phone books always had that statue on the cover somewhere, along with the little circle and the words 'American Telephone and Telegraph and Associated Companies' in the circle. I guess they quit using the statue about 1960. PAT] ------------------------------ From: sigma@mcs.com (Kevin Martin) Subject: Re: Chicago Area Internet Providers Wanted Date: 24 May 1995 08:55:48 -0500 Organization: MCSNet Services kadokev@ripco.com (Kevin Kadow) writes: > Because of the "band" system for local calls used by Ameritech, you'll > want to find a provider who's central office is within 8 miles of your > central office -- otherwise you pay Ameritech by the minute, rather than > a flat per-call rate. A bit misleading -- for your data calls, it's not the central office that matters. It is, of course, their nearest Point Of Presence to you. MCS actually has quite a presence in 708, more so than in 312 even. Here's the current modem list from "http://www.mcs.net/phones", for example: POP Location V.32bis or below V.34/V.FC Chicago/Lakeview 312-248-0900 (55) 312-248-5687 (48) Naperville 708-637-0900 (32) 708-637-0964 (16) Wheeling 708-465-0990 (24) 708-465-1091 (16) Blue Island/Alsip 708-385-0997 (10) 708-385-1142 (6) St Charles/Geneva 708-262-0900 (10) 708-262-0949 (6) Schaumburg 708-413-8450 (24) Totals 131 116 Total network-wide = 247 Kevin Martin sigma@mcs.com Pinball Archive: ftp.mcs.com(192.160.127.87):/mcsnet.users/sigma/pinball Many a sober Christian would rather admit that a wafer is God than that God is a cruel and capricious tyrant. [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: MCSNet has expanded greatly over the Chicago area in the past couple years. I would recommend Karl Denninger and his company to anyone looking for internet services. PAT] ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #258 ****************************** Received: from delta.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa14327; 26 May 95 16:18 EDT Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA18816 for telecomlist-outbound; Fri, 26 May 1995 09:27:09 -0500 Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA18808; Fri, 26 May 1995 09:27:06 -0500 Date: Fri, 26 May 1995 09:27:06 -0500 From: TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson) Message-Id: <199505261427.JAA18808@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #259 TELECOM Digest Fri, 26 May 95 09:27:00 CDT Volume 15 : Issue 259 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Broadband Networking News (Electronic Newsstand) U.S. Schools and Libraries Ask For Affordable Telecom Access (Nigel Allen) Mayors Seek Protection From Preemption in Telecom Reform (Nigel Allen) How to Make a Long Distance Call in 1942 (Andrew C. 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The joint solution will enable consumers to access the Internet at speeds up to 27 Mbps from their home computers, while allowing telcos and cable companies to offer another new service over their growing broadband networks. "Online access is a rapidly growing area," said Stan Holcomb, director of business strategy for visual consumer broadband networks for AT&T Network Systems. "We hope to bring [cable and phone] companies into this growing market. This will bring service providers a new revenue source -- PC-based services. These services will especially be important for Internet access and for work-at-home applications." "We think there is a big market in bringing broadband to PCs," said Tom Waldrop, an Intel spokesman. "We think the PC -- not the television -- will be the consumers' choice for interactive data services like Internet, work-at-home, education, and news." ...Creating the Service AT&T will integrate the Internet solution into both of its broadband networking systems -- the HFC-2000 Broadband Access System, a hybrid fiber-coax solution, and the SLC-2000 Access System with FLX Switched Digital Video, a fiber-to-the curb, switched video solution. AT&T is developing the latter system jointly with BroadBand Technologies (see BNN, October 18, 1994). Both systems incorporate AT&T's GlobeView 2000 ATM switch as a central component, and AT&T is installing both around the country. Southwestern Bell has deployed the SLC-2000 with FLX Switched Digital Video in Richardson, Texas, while Pacific Bell is using the HFC-2000 solution in California. Southern New England Telephone and Comcast Cable are also deploying the HFC-2000, and Bell Atlantic is using both broadband systems. Although running TCP/IP over ATM has been troublesome, AT&T's Holcomb says the problems of running the protocol over its networking solutions have been solved, and the systems have been tested. AT&T plans to introduce additional, related networking products over the next 12 months. Hybrid Networks will integrate its point-of-presence network hubs into the broadband solution. The hubs are used to link the Internet and other multimedia content providers to broadband networks. For its part in the solution, Intel will provide the CablePort adapter technology needed to connect PCs to cable networks. The products, which are still being tested, will include a card that goes inside a PC and an external module that connects the computer to the cable. Both Viacom and Comcast Cable have been testing the technologies. In the test, each firm is providing access to online service providers and the Internet as well as additional programming such as home shopping. Intel expects to introduce the products later this year. According to both Holcomb and Waldrop, local cable and phone companies will be able to install the solution and begin offering Internet access by year's end. They don't, however, expect the solution to become widespread until the end of 1996. ____________________________________ So begins this issue's featured article from Broadband Networking News. This article and others from Broadband Networking News and additional publications can be viewed at no charge on The Electronic Newsstand, a service which collects articles, editorials, and table of contents from over 260 magazines and provides them to the Global Internet community. Access to The Electronic Newsstand is available 24 hours a day, 7 days a week via Gopher, an information navigation and retrieval technology from the University of Minnesota. 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If you have any suggestions on how we might improve this service, or need more information, please email staff@enews.com --The Electronic Newsstand Staff ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 May 1995 04:36:55 -0400 Subject: U.S. Schools and Libraries Ask For Affordable Telecom Access Organization: 52 Manchester Avenue, Toronto M6G 1V3 From: ndallen@io.org (Nigel Allen) Here is a press release from the National School Boards Association. I downloaded the press release from the U.S. Newswire BBS in Maryland at (410) 363-0834. I do not work for the association. --------------------- Education and Technology Groups Rally to Ensure Access for School and Libraries in Pending Telecommunications Reform Bill Contact: Michelle Richards of the National School Boards Association, 703-838-6208 WASHINGTON, May 25 -- A broad-based, non-partisan coalition of more than 40 organizations has joined to rally support for provisions of the Telecommunications Competition and Deregulation Act of 1995 that assure the nation's schools and students receive universal and affordable access to emerging telecommunications and information services. The provisions for school and library access, co-sponsored by U.S. Senators Olympia Snowe (R-Maine), John D. Rockefeller IV (D-W.Va.), J. Robert Kerrey (D-Neb.), and J. James Exon (D-Neb.), are expected to be the focus of heated debate in the Senate which is scheduled to take up consideration of the bill over the next few weeks. The coalition is working to protect language in the Senate bill that ensures all children will have an affordable "on-ramp" to the Information Highway by providing the nation's schools and libraries with universal and reasonably-priced access to telecommunications and information services. Opposition to the provision has been raised by those who believe that competition alone should result in affordable access without the necessity for specific assurances. The coalition counters that, especially in rural areas, competition will be insufficient to lower rates. Schools and libraries are not asking for a "free ride," just affordability. Since schools and libraries are public service institutions rather than commercial markets, it is in the public interest to assure such affordable access. The coalition is also encouraging leaders in the U.S. House of Representatives to include a similar provision in its version of the telecommunication bill, H.R. 1555. [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: And it *is* possible for libraries and schools to get online inexpensively. A lot of equipment is *not* needed; extensive telecom equipment is *not* needed. What often times are needed are terminals, printers and modems to provide the most elementary access and in effect the only access needed by many small institutions. Yes, more would be useful, but is not needed. I have said many times that if I were to win the Illinois State Lottery and a couple million dollars I would see to it that every small library in the Chicago area and school got at least the minimum basics needed to use the Internet. There is some outfit now trying to sell the Chicago Public Schools a massive, millions-of-dollars comptuter network for the same purpose; it will be a ripoff! Politicians and bureaucrats trying to figure out how the Internet works and squandering all their money in the process. Did you know that with even a small, used 386 you can operate a small site with accomodations for a couple dozen users, newsgroups, email, etc? For the longest time, I have wanted to see a Freenet in operation here for the libraries and schools in Chicago where such a thing is badly needed. People would be amazed how much can be done with very little expense *if they know how to do it*. Now I am not suggesting a Freenet can be run on a 386; but I am saying lots of small sites for use by library patrons could be established with a lot less money than they think, if dedicated and knowledgeable netters would assist in setting them up. The trouble is -- and here shows up my cynicism of government, politi- cians and bureaucrats in general -- they probably won't ask any of us for help. They'll stumble along, somehow millions of dollars later manage to get connected, then a lot of the equipment will set unused because people do not know how to operate it. I only wish I were in a position to do something about it. Somedays I feel so helpless here, seeing how much needs to be done to truly bring America on line ... PAT] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 May 1995 04:38:08 -0400 From: Nigel Allen Subject: Mayors Seek Protection From Preemption in Telecom Reform Organization: 52 Manchester Avenue, Toronto, Ontario M6G 1V3 Here is a press release from the United States Conference of Mayors. I downloaded the press release from the U.S. Newswire BBS in Maryland at (410) 363-0834. I do not work for the association. ------------------- Mayors Seek Protection From Preemption in Telecommunications Reform Contact: Mike Brown, Kevin McCarty of the United States Conference of Mayors, 202-293-7330 WASHINGTON, May 25 -- In a statement delivered to reporters today in Washington, Knoxville Mayor Victor Ashe, president of The U.S. Conference of Mayors, called on Congress to respect local governments' right to manage the use of their roads and streets and to be compensated for their use when telecommunications companies install their communications networks. Ashe also asserted that local governments should not lose their very basic police power -- zoning -- in the name of launching new technologies. "We can't let companies, in the name of expediency, simply sweep our community interests and needs to the side," said Ashe. "And we can't let Congress and the Federal Communications Commission pretend that they are in the zoning business or that they are the local utilities board." Noting that the House Commerce Committee was marking up new telecommunications legislation at that moment, Ashe described mayors' concerns that, in the name of building the information superhighway, commercial interests were seeking legislation to preempt what traditionally have been local authorities. "Efforts have been made to compromise our property rights; efforts have been made to devalue the compensation we receive for the use of local property; more recently, some are trying to avoid local zoning," Ashe explained. Because the fiberoptic cable and conduit networks needed to support new telecommunication systems will share space with other occupants of cities' rights-of-way -- gas companies, sewer and water utilities, electric companies and existing telecommunication providers -- mayors anticipate costly problems for local governments in accommodating the overlay of these new networks. "To suggest that the Congress and the Federal Communications Commission can manage the rules, resolve the conflicts and protect local community interests is simply foolhardy," said Ashe. An amendment to the Communications Act of 1995 which addresses the mayors' right-of-way concerns had been offered by Rep. Bart Stupak (Mich.). While the amendment was not acted upon, Commerce Committee Chair Thomas Bliley (Va.), a former mayor, indicated today that the mayors' concerns would be addressed as the legislation moves toward full House consideration. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 May 1995 22:57:32 CDT From: Andrew C. Green Subject: How to Make a Long Distance Call in 1942 In my hobby of listening to Old Time Radio programs, I came across this gem which I've transcribed below, which gives a fascinating insight into what it took to make a long-distance phone call in 1942. This is an episode of the dramatic series "Suspense". This particular broadcast occurred on September 2, 1942, starring Orson Welles and entitled "The Hitchhiker". Welles plays a man named Ronald Adams, who is traveling alone cross-country in his car, and as the story progresses, he is becoming increasingly tormented by a mysterious figure he keeps encountering along the way, usually along the side of the road. At a tense and dramatic point near the end, he decides to call his mother in Brooklyn, New York from a payphone in Gallup, New Mexico, several thousand miles to the west. Note that the complexity of making the call has nothing to do with the story; it's just presented as how things were routinely done. PAT, feel free to jump in and clarify, if you can, why it takes at least four operators working in sequence to pull this off: (Adams deposits a coin and waits) OPERATOR #1: Your call, please... ADAMS: Long distance. OPERATOR #1: Long distance... certainly... (a buzzer is heard on the line...) OPERATOR #2: This is Long Distance... ADAMS: I'd like-- *cough* *cough* (louder now:) I'd like to put in a call to my home in Brooklyn, New York... I'm Ronald Adams... um, er, the number is BEechwood two, oh eight two eight. OPERATOR #2: Certainly; I will try to get it for you... (another buzzer, fainter this time) OPERATOR #3: Albuquerque... OPERATOR #2: New York, for Gallup... (two faint electronic beeps heard on the line) OPERATOR #4: New York... OPERATOR #2: Gallup, New Mexico calling BEechwood two, oh eight two eight. ADAMS: (talking quietly to himself:) I read somewhere that love could banish demons... (his payphone abruptly swallows the first coin into its box) ... it was the middle of the morning ... I knew mother'd be home... I pictured her, tall and white-haired, in her crisp house dress, going about her tasks. It'd be enough, I thought, just to hear the even calmness of her voice-- OPERATOR #1: (brisk, sing-song businesslike voice) Will you please deposit three dollars and eighty-five cents for the first three minutes? When you have deposited a dollar and a half, will you wait until I have collected the money ... (we hear six quarters go in one at a time, each striking the heavy bell inside the phone. After the sixth quarter, we hear a slight avalanche of coins falling inside the phone.) OPERATOR #1: (more sing-song business script:) All right, deposit another dollar and a half ... (six more clangs and an avalanche) OPERATOR #1: Will you please deposit the remaining eighty-five cents ... (three more clangs, then a ringy-ding from a dime) OPERATOR #1: Ready with Brooklyn. Go ahead, please ... ADAMS: Hello? VOICE ON THE OTHER END: Mrs. Adams' residence ... Whew! It all moves briskly along, but still takes a full two minutes and six seconds of airtime between the time Orson puts his first nickel in the phone and the time the phone is answered at his mother's house. Contrast that with how little time it takes us today to pick up the phone, rip through a speed dial and have someone halfway around the world answer in seconds. (And it probably costs less than $3.85!) Andrew C. Green (312) 266-4431 Frame Advanced Product Services 441 W. Huron Internet: acg@frame.com Chicago, IL 60610-3498 FAX: (312) 266-4473 [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: The above is mostly accurate. Usually if the coin deposit required was more than the collection table inside could hold, the operator refrained from asking for payment until the called number or party answered. The reason was, if there was no answer the money had to be returned, and what had been dumped in the box already could obviously not be returned through the coin return slot. If it was a small enough amount the operator would ask for it and it would be held inside on the table. The operator's switchboard had two buttons on it marked 'return' and 'collect' and by pressing one button or the other, the money would fall in the box or the table would tip in the other direction and dump the coins back out to the caller. If the amount or number of coins made it impossible to hold them all (and this usually only happened on international calls costing ten or fifteen dollars) then the operator would get the distant party on the line, tell them to hold on a minute and come back to the caller asking for the money. If the caller tried to be smart and talk to the other end before the money all got deposited the operator would either tell them to shut up and try to talk over them or she would 'split the connection'; that is, cut off the one party from hearing the other until all the money was deposited. Then if she had to collect it in increments of a few dollars at a time, tell them to wait while she collected and then ask for more, she would. For calls costing less than a couple dollars they asked for all the money up front because even with a busy/no answer at the other end, this could still be funneled down the return slot by tipping the table inside the phone to the left. It took as many operators as it did because there were apparently (in the example on the radio) no direct lines between Gallup and New York. Had there been a direct line between Albuquerque and New York then you might have heard an operator answer 'Kansas City' or 'Chicago' (or maybe both!) along the way, with a request from the earlier operator to please extend the call. Had it been in the late 1920's or 1930's, it is likely there would have been a half dozen more operators on the line in the process of making the connection. In some places, the operator who collected the money could not return it. Here in Chicago as late as about 1970, from some payphones in the south end of the downtown area if you called a suburban point which required the deposit of extra coins (over and above the five cents needed for the local connection) you had to dial '211' and tell the operator the number desired (to call Skokie for example). She would ask for the additional twenty cents due then ring the number. If there was no answer or the line was busy, she would tell you to hold on a minute for the return of your money. She plugged in on the switchboard somewhere and got another operator who answered 'Wabash' and your operator would then say something like 'return on trunk 178'. You would hear a rather rude popping noise in the earpiece and the coins would come clattering down into the coin return slot. Now and then an accident would occur: the operator would collect the coins when she meant to return them or even return them when she meant to collect them. In the former case, it was handled rather casually. If the customer indicated he would be attempting the call again in a few minutes, he would be told "when the operator answers, tell her you have ten cents credit coming from your prior call." If the coins were returned in error, the operator would ask you politely to redeposit them. PAT] ------------------------------ From: Kimmo.Ketolainen@utu.fi (Kimmo Ketolainen +358 40 500 2957) Subject: Telecom Finland to Use DCS 1800 to Back up GSM Organization: University of Turku Date: Fri, 26 May 1995 03:58:35 GMT According to {Helsingin Sanomat} (25 May) Telecom Finland plans to use the 1800 MHz frequencies in the major cities to enhance GSM efficiency. DCS 1800 will only be taken into use in the metropolitan areas where the GSM frequency bands around 900 MHz are getting more and more populated. The new frequ ency does not require any major capital investment, as it can and will be us ed by the current GSM base stations. ------------------------------ From: kwbrown@panix.com (Kate Weber Brown) Subject: Algorithm For Parsing Phone Numbers Date: 26 May 1995 06:58:45 -0400 Organization: Bank of Bermuda Hello, all, Is there anyone who can send me an algorithm for taking apart a string of numbers and working out which digits are area code or country code, etc.? I'm trying to build an application which bills fax calls from the log ... Thanks, Kate Weber Brown Office Automation The Bank of Bermuda kwbrown@panix.com ------------------------------ From: jvz@pt.com (John Zambito) Subject: Centrex Voice Mail Notifier? Organization: Performance Technologies, Incorporated Date: Fri, 26 May 1995 12:32:28 GMT We just got centrex and they want $35 for the red LED indicator that plugs into the phone line and flashes when there is a voice mail message. How do these work? John Zambito, Performance Telecom Corporation jvz@pt.com 315 Science Parkway, Rochester, New York 14620 uupsi!ptsys1!jvz Maker of HDSL systems for sending 1.544kbs 16,000 ft ------------------------------ From: rreiner@clark.net (Ronald Reiner) Subject: SS7 <--> MFR2 Conversion? Date: 26 May 1995 02:43:21 GMT Organization: Clark Internet Services, Inc., Ellicott City, MD USA I am seeking advice about a specialized conversion unit that accepts SS7 from the PSTN and converts it to R2. We sell facsimile store and forward equipment and manufacture our own hardware for interfacing over the PSTN for incoming and outgoing fax delivery. These fax ports are R2 capable so that we can capture called number and calling number for some of our value added features. We now have a customer who wants us to use our value added features on and SS7 network. It sure would ease our lives if we could find a "black box" which could sit between us and the PSTN and make the PSTN look like R2. We know of one product: Pit Boss. Is anyone out there aware of other vendors for this type of product? If so, please respond by E-mail. Thanks, Ron Reiner ------------------------------ From: Michel Adam Subject: Looking For Short Haul 56kbps Solution Date: Thu, 25 May 1995 14:44:25 MDT Organization: NTNet Society I am in need of the expertise of the readers of this group. We need to provide 56kbps connections to numerous customers in town (we are a non-profit society providing internet connections in the Canadian North), and have had some success with expensive Synchronous CSU/DSU. We would like to use an abundance of Asynchronous ports on our Netblazer to provide 56kbps at a much lower cost. We will be using leased lines, the 4-wire garden variety, 24ga., over up to 4 miles (5 would be better, but it appears to be stretching it...). Using good old RS-232, and preferrably Rack mounted at our central location, and stand-alone at the remote end. Is there anything that will do the job? Our target price per connection is around $US 730, or $CAN 1000. The current candidate for the central site is a Black-Box rack with Mini Driver MP Cards (page 20 of the summer 95 catalog), ME778C-RJ11. The only problem is that there does not appears to be any Stand-alone equivalent for the other side. Does anyone know who actually MAKE these units? Any help greatly appreciated. Thanks, Michel Adam michela@ntnet.nt.ca ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 May 1995 17:41:47 EST From: Rob Slade Subject: Book Review: "Netlaw: Your Rights in the Online World" by Rose BKNETLAW.RVW 950406 "NetLaw: Your Rights in the Online World", Lance Rose, 1995, 0-07-882077-4, U$19.95 %A Lance Rose %C 2600 Tenth St., Berkeley, CA 94710 %D 1995 %G 0-07-882077-4 %I McGraw-Hill %O U$19.95 510-548-2805 800-227-0900 lkissing@osborne.mhs.compuserve.com %O pmon@osborne.mhs.compuserve.com %P 372 %T "NetLaw: Your Rights in the Online World" Very similar to his earlier "Syslaw" (cf. BKSYSLAW.RVW), this is a general guide to various legal aspects of life online. The major changes are the broadening of the scope from BBS level systems to include online services and the Internet, and very handy (and interesting) sidebars, which give a thumbnail sketch version of the topic under discussion. These usually include a reference to some specific case. Chapters address the issues of censorship, contracts, commerce, and copyright. Chapter four, which deals with the responsibility of the system operator in light of online dangers, does touch on the topic of malicious software. I was disappointed that this is limited to a not terribly accurate defining of terms, and almost no discussion of the admittedly confused legal situation. Further chapters cover privacy, crime, search and seizure, and a rather disappointing chapter on obscenity. Appendices include some very useful sample contracts, and various US laws. Given recent developments which have strongly indicated the international nature of the net and international legal ramifications, it is discouraging to see that Rose still presents only a limited and US-centric view. However, the general principles he describes are held in common law, and this book should at least provide guidance for the broader online world. copyright Robert M. Slade, 1995 BKNETLAW.RVW 950406. Distribution permitted in TELECOM Digest and associated publications. Rob Slade's book reviews are a regular feature in the Digest. Vancouver ROBERTS@decus.ca Institute for Robert_Slade@sfu.ca Research into rslade@cyberstore.ca User rslade@sfu.ca Security Canada V7K 2G6 ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #259 ****************************** Received: from ns1.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa12215; 31 May 95 2:09 EDT Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA26228 for telecomlist-outbound; Tue, 30 May 1995 20:00:04 -0500 Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA26220; Tue, 30 May 1995 20:00:02 -0500 Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 20:00:02 -0500 From: TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson) Message-Id: <199505310100.UAA26220@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #260 TELECOM Digest Tue, 30 May 95 19:59:30 CDT Volume 15 : Issue 260 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Telecom Privacy at Americtech (Van Hefner) ITU World Wide Web Server (Robert Shaw) Sunday's OTR on WTIX (Mark Cuccia) Jobs at AT&T Bell Labs (Jiming Liu) UCLA Short Course: Wavelet Transform Applications (William Goodin) Cantel and the New Area Codes (Jeff Bamford) Cellular One of NYC Credit (Keith Knipschild) California's New Area Code: 760 (Greg Monti) Re: Mayors Seek Protection From Preemption in Telecom Reform (Mark Crispin) Re: Troubles With NYNEX Voice Mail? (Scot M. Desort) Re: Troubles with NYNEX Voice Mail? (Stan Schwartz) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of public service systems and networks including Compuserve and America On Line. It is also gatewayed to Usenet where it appears as the moderated newsgroup 'comp.dcom.telecom'. Subscriptions are available to qualified organizations and individual readers. 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Has Ameritech gone off the deep end?!!? ================================================== By David Adams, {Akron Beacon Journal}, Ohio Knight-Ridder/Tribune Business News May 24 -- Deborah Tarvin let her fingers do the walking right into her neighbor's telephone bill. Due to changes in Ameritech's automated toll-free customer service line last year, anyone can access basic billing information about almost any of the company's 10.8 million households in Ohio, Illinois, Wisconsin, Michigan and Indiana -- just by knowing that customer's phone number. That means anyone -- your boss, your neighbors, your ex-spouse. Ameritech previously required customers to use a three-digit access code printed on their monthly bill. But early last year, as part of a technological upgrade, the company dropped the code, citing Ameritech studies showing customers overwhelmingly didn't want them. But when Tarvin, a 42-year-old Akron resident, called last week to find out about her May bill, she was surprised to learn how easily anyone else could gain that information and much more. Concerned, she tried her teenage daughter's phone number, and got her daughter's billing information. Then, in successive calls, she obtained the billing records for her parent and neighbors. "I am outraged -- I feel those records should be private," Tarvin said. "I think it's a breach of privacy." Getting billing information by phone from Ameritech is markedly easier than getting similar information from other businesses. Most banks, credit card and other services require customers to use a combination of account numbers and personal identification codes to access billing data. The information available through the customer service line, 800-660- 2626, includes a customer's balance due, last payment date, and when the a payment was received by the company. Customer service representative available on the service can also arrange payment of a bill with a credit card. Duplicate bills can also be obtained through the service but those bills are only sent to the address of the customer listed on the bill. The mailing addresses cannot be changed by telephone. It isn't possible for anyone using the service line to find out what numbers a customer has called. Still, Tarvin says simple billing information can reveal plenty, and she called the 800 number to complain. "I kept telling her about right of privacy, and she kept telling me about test studies," said Tarvin, recalling her conversation with an Ameritech representative. That's close to the company's official position on the subject. "We did customer research, and they wanted this system to be quick and convenient as possible," said Tim Fitzpatrick, Ameritech spokesman. "They don't consider overall bill information vital, and they don't want to keep track of another number ... the primary driver in this is to make it as simple as possible." Ameritech's move so far hasn't caused much of an uproar, according to Ohio's Public Utility Commission, and Consumers' Counsel, the state consumer advocate. "We haven't had any calls about it, and we watch for things like that," said Consumers' Counsel spokeswoman, Susan Gaskell. "There may be some who would abuse this. But does that outweigh the convenience of having this? It doesn't seem so." Ameritech considered keeping the code system, Fitzpatrick said. But it found out that most people who were calling to find out what they owed had misplaced their bills. Without their bills, they couldn't find the required three-digit code -- rendering the service line useless to most people who needed it, Fitzpatrick said. Since the change, use of the company's service line has doubled to about five million calls a year, while Ameritech has received only about a dozen complaints, Fitzpatrick said. "Our customers are extremely satisfied with the system," he said. Just the same, Ameritech is blocking access to the service for customers who request it, and is considering returning to a system that requires customers to use private access codes. Van Hefner VANTEK COMMUNICATIONS vantek@aol.com Publisher of Discount Long Distance Digest -1995 LONG DISTANCE RESELLER SOURCEBOOK- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 08:39:41 CET From: SHAW +41 22 730 5338 Subject: ITU World Wide Web Server Dear Patrick, Thought your readers might like to learn that the International Telecommunication Union in Geneva has made available its World Wide Web server. The URL is: http://www.itu.ch The ITU WWW Server contains thousands of documents on telecom standardization, radiocommunication and telecom development. Information on TELECOM 95 in Geneva from October 3-11, 1995 is also available from the home page or directly at: http://www.itu.ch/TELECOM/ Questions should be directed to helpdesk@itu.ch. Thanks also to many of your readers who supplied URLs for "Telecom Resources on the Net" (available on the home page). Happy telesurfing... Robert Shaw Information Services Department International Telecommunication Union Place des Nations 1211 Geneva 20, Switzerland TEL: +41 22 730 5338/5554 FAX: +41 22 730 5337 X.400:G=robert;S=shaw;A=arcom;P=itu;C=ch Internet: shaw@itu.ch [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: And my sincere thanks goes to the ITU as well for their continued financial support of TELECOM Digest. ITU has provided a monthly grant to this Digest for quite awhile now without which I do believe continued publication would have been impossible. PAT] ------------------------------ From: Mark Cuccia Subject: Sunday's OTR on WTIX Date: Mon, 29 May 95 09:23:00 +6C Yesterday, George Buck's Golden Era of Radio on WTIX aired an episode of The Whistler (from 1951) in the morning edition of OTR, and a 1953 Suspense episode that evening - each episode had an interesting telco/telecommunications aspect - In 'A Law of Physics' on The Whistler, the murderer tried to claim in his alibi was that he used his phone when the murder was committed -- his CAR PHONE -- but the sheriff made him 'test' his carphone at the same point he claims he placed the call -- he tells the sheriff that he pulled the car to the side of the road, lifted the reciever and pressed the 'call-request' button 'like-this' and gave the operator (verbally) the number he wanted to reach. When the sheriff says 'well, where's your operator', the murderer says 'I don't understand what's going on' (and you hear just crackle comming out), to which the sheriff replies 'It's just a simple law of physics - You can't get any radiotelephone transmission/reception along this stretch of highway - It's in the valley' (boom-boom, followed by the whistling and the announcer closing out the Signal Oil commercial and 'Stay tuned for Our Miss Brooks, which follows immedietely on most of these same CBS Stations. Marvin Miller speaking -- This is C.B.S., the Co-LUM-bia Broadcasting System' In 'Public Defender' on Suspense (with Frank Lovejoy) which was a network aircheck tape, (1953), the program is interrupted (and this was NOT part of the story) with 'We interrupt this program -- we have more names of American Prisoners of War just released by the Korean Communists' and the news announcer begins reading a list of 16 names of American Servicemen and their hometowns. While you couldn't hear any clatter of the teletypewriter, the news announcer states that 'More of the names are coming across the wire now'. This News Bulletin lasted about three to four minutes, and while the original pre-produced 'SUSPENSE' tape was continuing to roll from CBS Hollywood, there was not much of a loss of storyline in the program when 'rejoined'. The announcer states further 'As more names are released, we will interrupt our regularly scheduled programming on the CBS Radio network. This News Bulletin has come to you from CBS Radio News in New York, we now return to the regularly scheduled programming on this CBS Radio Network Station.' There were NO musical-jingles/sound-effect-beeping to alert listeners that an important bulletin was breaking in, and obviously there was NO 'bleep' tones (CBS did NOT introduce 'NetALERT' automation to alert affiliates not carrying a program at that time that a bulletin was moving and to join the net-feed or to start their 'cart' machines or reel-tapes -- until around 1961/62). ALSO, the announcer did NOT identify himself, but I THINK that it was Dallas Townsend who also anchored the weekday CBS World News Roundup (8-8:15am ET) on CBS Radio in the late 60's, 1970's, early 80's. (Neil Strawser did the Saturday WNR on CBS Radio in the 60's/70's/80's). I know you Chicago area people heard this on WBBM (which I have listened to at night). I might be only 34, but I know my nostalgia -- telco, radio, TV, etc. -- and I grew up in the 1960's listening to the stations that my parents listened to -- which were the CBS, NBC, Mutual, and ABC affiliates -- and I remember MONITOR, weekends on NBC Radio, whose jingle incidently was donated to them by AT&T in 1955 -- the jingle for Monitor was a tape of the AT&T inband MF KP tones, played at regular speed, fast-speed, and slow-speed. ANYONE OUT THERE REMEMBER THE MONITOR JINGLE (NBC called it the Monitor Beeper)? MARK J. CUCCIA WRITE, PHONE, or WIRE: HOME: CHestnut 1-2497 (tel, forwards on No-Answer/Busy to cellphone/voicemail) 4710 Wright Road New Orleans 28 LOUISIANA (70128) WORK: mcuccia@law.tulane.edu UNiversity 5-5954 (tel) UNiversity 5-5917 (fax) (AREA CODE 504) [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I remember well the news bulletins which interuppted the television programs repeatedly at the end of the Korean War (oh excuse me! 'police action'; Harry Truman never did ask Congress to declare war). As the war was ending, and the American prisoners of war were being released, there was a period of about a week where those bulletins were coming over the air two or three times every hour, and each time, the names and home towns of the prisoners on the list were read for the benefit of their families, etc., who were listening to the radio or television for the latest word. PAT] ------------------------------ From: Jiming.Liu@att.com Subject: Jobs at AT&T Bell Labs Organization: AT&T Date: Mon, 29 May 1995 01:53:42 GMT The Advanced Decision Support System (ADSS) organization at AT&T Bell Labs is interested in outstanding candidates who are considering consulting and development careers in Operations Research and Computer Science. AT&T Bell Labs ADSS has a long record of developing large-scale decision support systems and providing optimization-based consulting, object oriented design and software development, and implementation of client/server architectures. We have 3-4 openings for regular employees as well as for post-doctoral positions with a possibility of converting to regular employee positions. What AT&T Bell Labs ADSS requires: Education: Advanced degree (M.S. or Ph.D.) in Operations Research, Computer Science or related field required. In addition, an undergraduate degree in Engineering is desirable. OR Expertise: Practical experience and a theoretical background in general optimization and/or stochastic processes required. Knowledge of network analysis, system design and analysis, decision support systems, and basic statistical analysis desirable. Work Experience: A minimum of 2 years of non-academic professional experience required (may be waived for an applicant with a Ph.D.). Experience in the telecommunication area is desired. Previous consulting experience a plus. Computer Skills: Proficiency in programming C++ or C required. Knowledge of UNIX, object-oriented methodology, use of state-of-the-art optimization and statistical packages desirable. Experience with graphics and spreadsheets a plus. General: Highly developed oral and written communication skills as well as excellent interpersonal skills. Willingness to learn, self-motivation, and self-management. What AT&T Bell Labs ADSS can offer: A challenging and informal work environment. Work on leading-edge problems, develop innovative decision technologies, using the latest in high-performance commercial software technology (object oriented development, etc.). An opportunity to make an impact in a leading industrial laborotory environment. Competitive salaries, excellent benifits, and exciting career growth. If your background and interests match these expectations, please send your resume via fax, e-mail or regular mail to: Jiming Liu AT&T Bell Laboratories Room 2L-320 101 Crawfords Corner Road Holmdel, NJ 07733 e-mail. jiming@kingfish.att.com fax. 908-949-4001 ------------------------------ From: BGOODIN@UNEX.UCLA.EDU (William R. Goodin) Subject: UCLA Short Course on Wavelet Transform Applications to Data Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 16:01:21 Organization: UCLA Extension On September 11-15, 1995, UCLA Extension will present the short course, "Wavelet Transform Applications to Data, Signal, Image, and Video Processing", on the UCLA campus in Los Angeles. The instructors are Dr. Harold Szu, Research Physicist, Washington, DC, and Prof. John Villasenor, UCLA. The National Information Infrastructure (NII) has generated substantial interest in the broad tele-informatics processing area in which a new mathematical tool called the Wavelet Transform (WT) has been developed based on human sensor wideband transient characteristics. The wavelet transform has proved to be a powerful and efficient mechanism whenever the noisy data, signal image, and/or video processing functions are related to the quality of human sensory perception. This course builds the basics of both continuous and discrete WTs (CWTs and DWTs) and demonstrates both techniques with various real world signal restoration and pattern recognition applications. Case studies are then examined, including the FBI's decade-long fingerprint compression program, the five-year NIST/ATP program in digital video information infrastructure, the ARPA tele-medicine program, among others. The topics to be discussed include: Introduction to the Wavelet Transform (WT); Applications-Driven Wavelet: Principles by Dimensionality, Design by Functionality; Continuous and Discrete Mathematics of WT and Comparisons, How to Design Mother Wavelets; Neural Network Adaptive WT; Applications of Super-Mother Wavelets; Advanced Medical Applications Using WT; Nonlinear Dynamics Applications: Soliton WT Kernel; WT Implementation: Hardware and Software Issues; Image Compression; 2D Wavelet Theory and Practice; and Video Compression Applications. The course fee is $1495, which includes extensive course materials. For more information and a complete course description, please contact Marcus Hennessy at: (310) 825-1047 (310) 206-2815 fax mhenness@unex.ucla.edu ------------------------------ From: jeffb@audiolab.uwaterloo.ca (Jeff Bamford) Subject: Cantel and the New Area Codes Organization: Audio Research Group, University of Waterloo Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 14:30:26 -0400 Rogers Cantel in Canada seems to have a problem with the new area codes. I tried the test numbers that were posted here last week and they were unable to connect me to *any* of the test numbers! I called their service line and reported that I couldn't call a Southern Alabama number. She did the standard things: Did I dial the area code? Was I sure the number was right (worked fine from my home phbone I said)? She checked to make sure there was no block on long distance (shouldn't be, they just bill my MasterCard every month) and there wasn't. Since it was Sunday she said someone would look into and give me a call back on Monday. I left her the test number to try. We'll see what happens. Any other cellular users in Canada having a problem with these new area codes? Unitel (whom Cantel's parent company Rogers own 29%) had no problem with them except the new Chicago code, but if Pat can't even reach it from the Chicago area you really can't blame other companies for not reaching it. Interested to know what the status is. I'm sure all hell will break loose next year with the 604 split in BC. That will affect many more Canadians than the Alabama split. Jeff Bamford Email - jeffb@uwaterloo.ca -- NeXT Mail welcome Office/Lab: +1 519 885 1211 x3814 Fax: +1 519 746 8115 WEB Page: A.R.G. Home Page ------------------------------ From: Keith@unix.asb.com (Keith Knipschild) Subject: Cellular One of NYC Credit Organization: ASB Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 18:42:04 GMT On Tuesday last week, Cellular One was OFFLINE ... I tried to use my phone for one hour; all I got were fast buzy signals, even to 611 So I called C1 from a landline phone, they told me there was problems with the system andd they would CREDIT my account for the time thay were offline ... I guess if you don't ask for a credit you won't get it. Keith ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 May 95 18:55:09 PDT From: Greg Monti Subject: California's New Area Code: 760 {Comm Daily} has reported that area code 619 in California will split. No date was given. The "area north of San Diego" and the "five counties out to the Nevada and Arizona borders" will get a new code: 760. Presumably, 619 will be retained for the city of San Diego and for the southern and western suburbs down to the Mexican border. Greg Monti Arlington, Virginia, USA gmonti@cais.com ------------------------------ From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Mayors Seek Protection From Preemption in Telecom Reform Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 08:49:45 -0700 Organization: Networks & Distributed Computing I live in a community where this is an issue. It has very little to do with infrastructure costs. What is really going on is that in many cities and towns across the US, political power has been seized by a small but very organized clique of individuals who mistrust technology and will do everything possible to hamper it, including using junk science. The cellular industry has been a popular victim. We can not get a small monopole installed because of bogus "health" concerns. "The cellular rays have been proven to cause brain cancer!" "Our health is more important than allowing yuppies to make calls from their cars!" It wouldn't be so bad if the land lines were reliable, but they aren't; winter storms take them down regularly. Cellular is a crucial communications backup link -- unless you're in a dead zone or a fade-out zone. I welcome any/all pulling of the fangs from these aging hippies. It isn't just federal over-regulation that needs to be ended. Mark -- (still living in a fade-out zone, thanks to the cretins) DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: The 'aging hippies' get their due every now and then. Remember how so much of California burned down a couple years ago after *some people* had refused for how many ever years to allow the Fire Department to do controlled burns? How *some people* out there in a town left unnamed full of 'aging hippies' refused any and all cooperation with state and federal authorities who wanted to change the agricultural scene around a little to prevent or greatly reduce the chance of a major fire? They resisted, they protested, they sued, they carried on and then one day their town burned down ... remember? All these people with their deluded agendas and will you please stop the world so they can get off greatly annoy me also. Now let's watch the Mothers of America unite in wrecking the Internet as the newspapers relate all kinds of foolishness and many times outright lies. PAT] ------------------------------ From: gsmicro@ios.com Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 23:52:48 -0400 Subject: Re: Troubles With NYNEX Voice Mail? steve@individual.com wrote: > I've heard of and experienced some problems with Nynex's c.o. based > voice mail. I called someone yesterday (5/25) and when they didn't > pick up I heard "You have reached the Nynex message center. Please > enter the phone phone number of the person you are calling ..." > Eventually I heard their greeting and was able to leave a message. > This same person has told me that she has called other Nynex voice > mail subscribers and instead of getting their greeting heard the > subscriber menu for picking up messages. What you experienced is not all that uncommon. The voicemail system is supposed to retrieve the number you're dialing from thru a DID-like delivery system as Pat stated. If the call to the voicemail number was direct-dialed from a line that subscribes to voicemail, is it supposed to play the greeting prompting you to enter your PIN. If the call was "forwarded" to the voicemail number, the system should play your greeting. However, if the voicemail number is dialed from a phone that does *not* subscribe, the system plays the generic "Welcome to voicemail ..." greeting. If there is corruption of the CLID to the voicemail switch (we all know Caller ID is never corrupt) or the system is overloaded, you will experience what you have described. I have personally had this happen to me on my business lines. Not too great for customers to get that message. I've also had the voicemail system ring without answering, and even sometimes pick up then disconnect. Also quite yukky. then, Pat wrote: > People with telco voicemail might also try this little trick and see > what happens: have you noticed how when you dial into the main number > using the phone number assigned it does not ask you to enter your mail- > box number? It already knows who you are, and just asks for your pass- > word. Now try calling the main number but using *67 first ... does it > still know who you are and merely ask for your password, or do you get > the introductory part about 'please enter the number of the mailbox you > are calling." I am told in some telcos they say to heck with that *67 > business on calls to them; the privacy flag is ignored when you call > into a telco function such as voicemail. How does it work in your > community? PAT] Tried it here, Pat. In my CO (Bell Atlantic, 5ESS (release 9 I believe, non-generic), *67 does not disable CLID detection - voicemail properly prompts me for my PIN. I don't think that the system really uses the same delivery method as CLID (at least not CLID as we end users know it). If you dialed *67 before dialing 0 or 00, the operator would still know who you are (same is true for 911). But, the privacy flag may be ignored for calls to the voicemail number, as you stated. Interesting test though, Pat. Regards, Scot M. Desort Garden State Micro, Inc. +1 201-244-1110 +1 201-244-1120 Fax gsmicro@ios.com [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: The Ameritech voicemail users manual claims that the 'envelope' function on messages will give not only the time and date of the call, but also the phone number of the calling party. So far it does not work that way here, and it seems a shame they can't add it to the service. Just as the computer voice tells you the time and date the call was received, it could easily tell you the number that called. When I asked Ameritech about this they claim it is not part of the service, yet their user manual says it is. PAT] ------------------------------ From: stanschwartz-aviswizcom@e-mail.com Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 17:32:01 EDT Subject: Re: Troubles with NYNEX Voice Mail? > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: > People with telco voicemail might also try this little trick and see > what happens: have you noticed how when you dial into the main number > using the phone number assigned it does not ask you to enter your > mailbox number? It already knows who you are, and just asks for your > password. Now try calling the main number but using *67 first ... > does it still know who you are and merely ask for your password, or do > you get the introductory part about 'please enter the number of the > mailbox you are calling." I am told in some telcos they say to heck > with that *67 business on calls to them; the privacy flag is ignored > when you call into a telco function such as voicemail. How does it > work in your community? PAT] Pat, Here in the 516 part of NYNEXLand, the telco voicemail works exactly as you described. There's one additional catch. If you three-way call FROM YOUR OWN PHONE into the voicemail server, the server does not receive the CID or ANI information from you, and asks you to enter your mailbox number. On a semi-related note, I have a Visa card from First USA Bank in Philadelphia. When dialing in for customer service, the voice response system only asks me to touch-tone in the last four digits of my account number for verification (it has already done an account lookup based on the incoming ANI). When I received a new card from them, they sent what the industry calls a "dead plastic". It's not "live" until you call the number on the sticker on the card and verify that you received it. The sticker on the card emphasizes that you only activate your new card "FROM YOUR OWN PHONE", as it does the same verification. How is this related, you ask? When I was on a call telling a friend about this, I tried to three-way into First USA's 800 number (800-955-9900) and it acted as if it didn't receive the ANI information ("Please enter your 16-digit account number"). I wonder why that is? Stan ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #260 ****************************** Received: from ns1.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa20775; 31 May 95 5:32 EDT Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA28055 for telecomlist-outbound; Tue, 30 May 1995 21:53:14 -0500 Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA28039; Tue, 30 May 1995 21:53:01 -0500 Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 21:53:01 -0500 From: TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson) Message-Id: <199505310253.VAA28039@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #261 TELECOM Digest Tue, 30 May 95 21:53:00 CDT Volume 15 : Issue 261 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Prodigy Held Liable in Libel Case Caused by Subscriber (Dave Banisar) Book Review: Unix Communications and the Internet by Anderson (Rob Slade) Foreign Exchange Lines in Oregon (Greg Tompkins) CD-ROM of Residental and Business Phone Listings Wanted (david@america.com) New Name For LDDS (Greg Monti) Telco Northwestel Errs With PBX; Help Please (Ian Gamble) Asynchronous Dial Access Study Participants Wanted (Dennis Shen) ATLAS alliance between France Telecom and Deutsche Telekom (Yves Blondeel) 'Sorry, Wrong Number' (was 'Long Distance in 1942') (Mark Cuccia) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of public service systems and networks including Compuserve and America On Line. It is also gatewayed to Usenet where it appears as the moderated newsgroup 'comp.dcom.telecom'. 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Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 26 May 1995 23:12:00 -0400 From: Dave Banisar Subject: Prodigy Held Liable in Libel Case Casued by Subscriber A New York state trial court ruled on May 24 that Prodigy is responsible for the libelous statements of its users because it exercises editorial control over their posts. In the case, an anonymous Prodigy user made statements against New York Investment firm Stratton Oakmont accusing it of criminal and fraudulent acts. Stratton Oakmont sued Prodigy and the volunteer moderator of the forum where the statements were published. The Court found that Prodigy was acting as a publisher and therefore was responsible for the content of the posts. The Court distinguished the case from the earlier Cubby v. Compuserve decision, which found that Compuserve was subject to the standards of a bookstore or library. It that case, the US District court ruled that Compuserve had no editorial control over the text. According to the New York state court: In contrast, here Prodigy has virtually created an editorial staff of Board Leaders who have the ability to continually monitor incoming transmissions and in fact do spend time censoring notes. Indeed, it could be said that Prodigy's current system of automatic scanning, guidelines, and Board Leaders may have a chilling effect on freedom of communications in Cyberspace, and it appears that this chilling effect is exactly what Prodigy wants, but for the legal liability that attaches to such censorship. Let it be clear that this court is in full agreement with Cubby and Auvil. Computer bulletin boards should generally be regarded in the same context as bookstores, libraries and network affiliates...It is Prodigy's own policies, technology and staffing decisions which have altered the scenario and mandated the finding that it is a publisher. The court also attempted to downplay the significance of its decision on the greater area of electronic networks: Prodigy's conscious choice, to gain the benefits of editorial control, has opened it up to greater liability that Compuserve and other computer networks that make no such choice. For the record, the fear that this Court's finding of publisher status for Prodigy will compel all computer networks to abdicate control of their bulletin boards, incorrectly presumes that the market will refuse to compensate a network for its increased control and the resulting increased exposure. The Court also found that the volunteer "Board Leader" of the Prodigy Bulletin Board was acting as an agent of the company. The Court found Prodigy exercised control over the Board Leaders though the the Bulletin Board Leader Agreement and the actions of Prodigy's employees. Prodigy has said that it will consider appealing the decision. EPIC has materials on free speech available at http://epic.org/free_speech/ We will be making a copy of the decision available in the next few days. David Banisar (Banisar@epic.org) * 202-544-9240 (tel) Electronic Privacy Information Center * 202-547-5482 (fax) 666 Pennsylvania Ave, SE, Suite 301 * ftp/gopher/wais cpsr.org Washington, DC 20003 * HTTP://epic.digicash.com/epic [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I think the decision was fair and proper. So many folks involved in net publishing, operating BBS's, newsgroups and whatever are insistent on having the same legitimacy granted to them that the print media recieves. I agree with this, and think it should be. I believe for example the TELECOM Digest is just as legitimate a publication -- admittedly all electronic -- as say, {Telephony} or Harry Newton's magazine. But the flip side of that coin is that with that legitimacy comes responsibility. It used to be -- and maybe still is, I don't use them enough to know -- that all the BBS sysops used to whine and cry when they were called on the carpet about pirated files on their system or porn or whatever the current crusade happened to be. They'd say 'well I cannot be held responsible! I am just running a little system as a volunteer! I have no control over what people post on my computer ... well of course they had control; they can unplug the computer from the phone line and turn off the electricity to it, but that is *not what they meant*. What they meant was they wanted to play along with the big boys but not be held accountable to the same standards. Somehow, because they are little and operate as non-profit, all the rules should be changed. I support Prodigy's right to have full editorial control over every last item on their system if they want. Its their 'computer', their business, their product. I support the right of people to sign up for and use such a system if they want, or ignore it if they want in the same way people either buy and read the {New York Times} or they read something else. I'm sure Prodigy's customers are a happy lot, pleased with the service and what they are getting for their money, etc. I know I certainly do not intend to relinquish control of the editorial content of this Digest, and I would not expect it of others. So if they do their thing, then they are responsible for what they 'publish'. And I'll tell you who I think will be the next one to get their corporate neck on the chopping block: America On Line. Those folks lean hard and breath heavily on their user/subscribers also with their 'Terms of Service' provisions which the Guides are *constantly* reminding people about. Say a profane word in a chat room? Read those Terms of Service! Put up something disagreeable in one of the forums? Read those Terms of Service! Like Prodigy, I think AOL is perfectly entitled to market a product they think people want -- and they seem to be pretty much on the mark, and the money if their growth in the past year means anything -- but if they are going to structure it so much and make their users comply so closely with their rules, etc, then watch what happens when someone breaks the rules big time: well, let's sue AOL also, it was their carelessness in screening the user ... the classic example of this is the story making the rounds about how the pedophile lurked on AOL in Teen Chat and lured some kid to meet him in person; mommie and daddy then sued AOL when they found out. Its still going to be a long time before the electronic media has full parity with the print media, if we ever do. But whimpering about how there is nothing we can do; no way to control the problems and troublesome users on the net just won't work any longer. Do you want to clean things up a little here or would you prefer to have Senator Exon and his cronies do it instead? He is chomping at the bit to do it himself, we all know that ... so I think we need to let Prodigy hang on this ... just blow in the wind so to speak, and learn their own lessons. PAT] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 17:45:18 EST From: Rob Slade Subject: Book Review: "UNIX Communications and the Internet" by Anderson BKUNCMIN.RVW 950405 "UNIX Communications and the Internet", Anderson/Costales/Henderson/Pike, 1995, 0-672-30537-2, U$35.00/C$47.95/UK#26.95 %A Bart Anderson %A Bryan Costales %A Harry Henderson %A Tod Pike tpike@pittslug.sug.org %C 201 W. 103rd Street, Indianapolis, IN 46290 %D 1995 %G 0-672-30537-2 %I SAMS Publishing %O U$35.00/C$47.95/UK#26.95 800-858-7674 75141.2102@compuserve.com %P 817 %T "UNIX Communications and the Internet" Despite the increasing popularity of dial-up IP connections to the Internet, the most common situation is still the dial-up shell account. The most common platform for providers is UNIX, and, although there are many and varied menu- based shells available, at some point the active Internet user is likely going to have to use UNIX, and the UNIX communications tools. The first edition of this book was written seven years ago, when UUCP and the Usenet network (as opposed to the Usenet news application) held a more significant position in global network communications. Internet users may therefore find the non-Usenet material to be a somewhat cursory add-on to the original text. Email addressing examples often give only the UUCP ("bang path") specifications, without adding the more familiar domain name (user@subdomain.domain) format. (Given the size of the work, I was surprised that the explanation lists only "logical" domains, such as .com and .edu, without discussing geographic or more complex structures.) The coverage of Internet particulars is so terse that the explanation of URLs (Universal Resource Locators) describes only HTTP (HyperText Transer protocol, the underlying system for displaying W3 pages). The whole Internet "part" contains only three chapters (twenty-four is really an extension of the UUCP content.) Overall, however, the quality of the material is quite high. There is solid coverage of email, dealing both with concepts and the major mail user agents. The section on Usenet news is also good, though it shows a similar lack of updating: neither trn nor tin are mentioned, and the coverage of "network etiquette" is to be found in the chapter on postnews. UUCP is not dead by any means, and active Internauts, particularly those working at multiple sites on the net, are likely to encounter it at least occasionally. The extreme domination of this book by UUCP applications (readnews and postnews are, by now, specialty applications at best) at the expense of Internet-specific information, will limit the usefulness of this edition. copyright Robert M. Slade, 1995 BKUNCMIN.RVW 950405. Distribution permitted in TELECOM Digest and associated publications. Rob Slade's book reviews are a regular feature in the Digest. Vancouver ROBERTS@decus.ca Institute for Robert_Slade@sfu.ca Research into Rob_Slade@mindlink.bc.ca User rslade@vanisl.decus.ca Security Canada V7K 2G6 ------------------------------ From: Greg Tompkins Subject: Foreign Exchange Lines in Oregon Date: 30 May 1995 00:27:12 GMT Organization: 4-T Acres I called GTE and wanted to know some rates for foreign exhange lines the other day. The lady told me "In Oregon, we do not have Foreign Exchange, but we have a service called Group A service". I asked her what Group A was. She went on to tell me that it would cost $700 to install, cost approximatly $325 per month and I would be billed on both incoming and outgoing calls at a rate of .07 per minute. My plan was to get a foreign exchange line to a city that is only ten miles away from me, but is long distance. I was so disgusted that I called and complained to the PUC about GTE. Why do you all think it's not an available service in Oregon? Any other ideas to have foreign exchange without paying these ridiculous rates. I have checked into leased lines, RF links, everything but they are all expensive options. Maybe I can get right of way and string my own wire to someone who lives in the area I am trying to call free! :-) GREG [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Unless you think your usage per month would be great enough that you would amortize that $700 install plus $325 per month plus .07 per minute of useage in a short time, why not consider an 800 number in the place you are trying to reach? Even if the cost was 15 to 20 cents per minute, you would need a great deal of usage before that $325 per month fee becomes less expensive. I don't have a lot of sympathy these days for people who feel they need FX in view of the large number of inexpensive 800 service providers around. FX was a service devised fifty years ago for businesses who literally had the volume of traffic required to keep that FX line loaded all the time, which is about the only way they ever are cost effective. I think one time here in the Digest someone analyzed this pretty closely and detirmined there were times you could get by with 70 percent occupancy on an FX line over a great distance; shorter FX's required still more use. PAT] ------------------------------ From: david@america.com (David) Subject: CD-ROM of Residental and/or Business Phone Listings Wanted Date: 30 May 1995 07:43:32 -0400 Organization: PSS InterNet Services, InterNet in Fl 904 253 7100 I was wondering what the name of such a CD-ROM would be. Does it allow you to extract listings to an ASCII format? How much does something like this cost, etc. Thanks. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 May 95 14:07:15 PDT From: Greg Monti Subject: New Name For LDDS A brief notice in {Communications Daily} on 5/26 noted that LDDS shareholders had approved "WorldCom" as the new name of the merged long distance carrier made up of LDDS, IDB Communications Group, WilTel Network Services. Sidebar: Company founders developed the LDDS name after asking a Hattiesburg, Mississippi, waitress for help. She suggested "Long Distance Discount Service." Greg Monti Arlington, Virginia, USA gmonti@cais.com ------------------------------ From: Ian Gamble Subject: Telco Northwestel Errs With PBX; Help Please Date: Mon, 29 May 1995 23:31:20 MDT Northwestel, the telco for northern Canada, has nearly completed the installation of a Northern Telecom Meridian 1 Option 11E PBX for the hotel where I work. There will be about 150 new telephones installed, all digital. The system was represented by the salesperson as being compatible with analog devices. The intent was to have a modern, and upgradeable, system to serve the needs of business travellers. Particularly, each room was to have the capacity to support fax and modem use by guests. Three days ago the technician installing the system informed the manager of the hotel that the digital PBX was incompatible with analog devices. The proposed fix, to install analog cards into the system unit, would be prohibitively expensive: 1.) the cards support a limited number of lines, 2.) each card is expensive, and 3.) if the digital lines were to be retained, a complete rewiring would be required to provide access in each of 130 rooms. I understand that there are risks to analog equipment if it is connected to the PBX due to the higher voltage, and the PBX itself can be harmed if modems or fax machines are hooked up. Is this true? Are there any analog to digital converters available that can be installed to permit this use on the PBX? Where can they be purchased? What should be done about the representation by the salesperson that the system would be suitable "out-of-the-box" for this purpose? Thank you for your attention. Regards, Ian Gamble iang@ntnet.nt.ca [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: If you have him saying in writing that the two would be compatible -- or even if you don't but there are a few witnesses to the conversation -- you can always sue the company. And by all means, don't make any further payments on the new system. Let them *sue you* if they want to get paid the balance due. PAT] ------------------------------ From: dshen@interserv.com Subject: Asynchronous Dial Access Study Participants Wanted Date: 30 May 1995 18:13:34 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US Reply-To: dshen@interserv.com If you have ordered ADA in the past sixty days or will order ADA in the next sixty days, please consider participating in our study of new ADA users. Participants will receive results of the study which may help you receive better service from your provider, gain you insight into the experiences of other new users, and allow you to better understand some of the practical benefits and drawbacks of your new service. If interested, please contact Dennis Shen at dshen@interserv.com. Please include your name, e-mail, and a phone number (if you feel comfortable giving out your number great, if not feel free to leave that out). Thanks, Dennis Shen ------------------------------ From: Yves Blondeel Subject: ATLAS Alliance Between France Telecom and Deutsche Telekom Date: 30 May 1995 16:03:02 GMT Organization: T-REGS ATLAS alliance between France Telecom and Deutsche Telekom. I hereby forward the statement made by the European Commission's Competition Commissioner Karel Van Miert concerning the proposed alliance between France Telecom and Deutsche Telekom. Extracted from the European Commission's RAPID Database, which is publicly accessible via: http://www.cec.lu/ml/rapid/rapmain.html * * * Rapid Ref: IP/95/524 - 24/05/95 - EN TELECOMMUNICATIONS ATLAS PROJECT: STATEMENT BY COMMISSIONER KAREL VAN MIERT I have instructed the services of the Commission's Directorate-General for Competition to inform Deutsche Telekom AG and France Telecom that certain aspects of their cooperation through the ATLAS joint venture company raise preliminary concerns under the EC Treaty's competition rules. I have indicated on numerous occasions,that the Commission is all in favour of strategic alliances involving European telecommunications operators (TOs) which allow them to enter the newly emerging market for sophisticated Europe- and world-wide telecommunications services. This new market mainly addresses the needs of large multinational companies with operations over the globe and which require 24 hour services regardless of differences in time zones, linguistic borders and currencies. The Commission has already last year issued a favourable Decision regarding the global telecommunications venture between BT and the US operator MCI. In examining the ATLAS venture, my services have gathered extensive information from the parties themselves, from other telecommunications service providers and from users. As a result, several problems have been identified which will need to be examined further before the Commission can take a definite position on the ATLAS venture: - the ATLAS venture in its present form does not appear to be in a position to address the global needs of multinational companies; - the ATLAS venture appears to relate mainly to the provision of domestic data communications services to companies operating in France or Germany and not at a global -- or even European-level; given the very high market shares of the parent companies on those domestic markets (+75% in both cases)and the fact that through the joint venture, the parent companies will not compete with each other on those markets, competition is likely to be eliminated or at least seriously restricted. The main victims will be small-and medium-sized companies, whose choice of service providers will be reduced and who are not in a position to exert any downward pressure on the prices for such services; - the national markets in question are very important in terms of size in the total EU context: approximately 45 % of data communications services in the entire EU are accounted for by services provided in France and Germany; - the elimination of competition on national markets is aggravated by the fact that the parent companies of ATLAS at present enjoy monopolies for the provision of infrastructure, the necessary building blocks for service providers competing with ATLAS; in the absence of alternative infrastructure allowing competing service providers to build up their own networks at competitive prices, competition will suffer a set-back precisely at the time that action taken by the Commission to liberalize all telecommunications services except basic voice services should begin to bear its fruits for the benefit of users. My services have set out these major concerns as well as other competition problems in an administrative letter addressed to the parties, which I should stress by no means involves a definite position on the part of the Commission. The next step in the procedure will consist of examining any changes which the parties put forward to meet the concerns expressed by the Commission's services. Yves Blondeel ------------------------------ From: Mark Cuccia Subject: 'Sorry, Wrong Number' (was 'Long Distance in 1942') Date: Tue, 30 May 95 11:07:00 GMT Suspense was produced in Hollywood from about four weeks into its run in 1942, thru August or September 1959. It was produced in New York from then until its end at the end of September, 1962. Los Angeles (and most ALL of Southern California was primarliy a 'step by step' type of switching area thru the early 60's. New York was 'Panel' and 'Crossbar' as was Phily, Chicago, Frisco, DC, etc. FOR THE MOST PART - Panel/Crossbar areas used N11 codes for special services, Step areas used 11X codes. Sorry Wrong Number - this episode took place in New York, although Agnes did it live and later on tape from CBS/KNX at Sunset & Gower in Hollywood. She did no more than seven performances on the Suspense series -- the 1957 performance (by that time Suspense was pre-taped sometime earlier than the network feed/broadcast) which was rerun in 1960 (with new commercials and slight reformatting for open/close) is the one I have a good copy of -- I have the 1960 rerun on tape. I also have some 'bad' copies of earlier editions of this episode. Agnes at one point calls information, and she dials (if you listen to the pulls of the dial) 113. THIS was the code for Information at that time in Southern California, while NYC really used 411. In many an episode of Perry Mason (TV, Raymond Burr -- I've never heard the 'soap-opera' daytime radio version from the 1940's thru mid 50's), people dial Information with 113, and Long Distance with 0 or 110. In Panel/Crossbar areas, LD was 211. Perry Mason took place in L.A., and was of course filmed there also. While Panel/Crossbar offices COULD handle 11X service codes, most areas that had Panel/Crossbar switches since the 1920's used N11 service codes. There have been many posts to the three groups lately about the N11 codes. The OLD 'standard' assignments were: 211 - Long Distance 411 - Information 611 - Repair 811 - Telco Business Office 911 - Emergency (assigned in the 1960's) OTHER codes have been used for ringback, testboard, reading back your number, etc. The OLD (and here, I MEAN OLD) 'standard' assignments for 11X codes were: 111111111... (each subsequent '1' keeps getting 'absorbed') 112+ Long Distance Access (later replaced by 1+) 113 - Information 114 - Repair 115 - Mobile/Conference/Marine/etc. 'Leave-Word' Operator 116 - 'COUNTY' operator for reaching nearby rural points 117 - Testboard 118 + N1 - ringbacks on four and eight party (i.e.calling someone who shares your party line. You could NOT just dial them from a step office -- you had to dial a special code and hang up -- and then you and the party-on-your line who you were calling -- would alternately ring with your coded rings). 119 + 1 - ringback for two party lines -- after hanging up, each party would alternately ring. 110 - Long Distance. These codes were not ALWAYS the same in every place -- and not ALL codes were used for any place. MARK J. CUCCIA HOME: 4710 Wright Road New Orleans 28 LOUISIANA (70128) CHestnut 1-2497 (rolls to cellular on busy/no-answer; cell has voicemail; +1 504 241 2497) WORK: mcuccia@law.tulane.edu UNiversity 5-5954 - TEL.(+1 504 865 5954) UNiversity 5-5917 - FAX.(+1 504 865 5917) [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Back in the days of '211' for the long distance operator in Chicago -- prior to about 1975 -- we also had '811' which served two purposes over a period of about forty years. During the Second World War, '811' was called 'Priority Long Distance' and it was used by military personnel who had the authority to ask that some other connection be dropped if necessary to allow for completion of an urgent military call. At the same time, and for the thirty years following the war, '811' was used by hotel switchboard operators, along with hospital and university switchboard operators for 'automatic time and charges callback'. If the call came in on 811 rather than 211, the Bell long distance operator knew it was a switchboard calling where some chargeback arrangement was in effect, meaning time and charges had to be quoted to the hotel operator immediatly when the call was finished. The guest might be checking out momentarily and the front desk needed the charges so they could be put on the guest's bill. AT&T paid a commission to the hotels/hospitals/universities, etc with switchboards for their traffic in return for the hotel/hospital/university guarenteeing paying of the bill caused by the guest's telephone calls. After all, strictly speaking, a transient person could call telco and demand an installation. This would be a nuisance to telco so the deal was the institution would run all the traffic through the switchboard and pay the bill, which had usually a 10-12 percent discount on it. The hotels, hospitals, etc naturally collected the full thing from the tenant/guest/patient. Part of the deal was though that the telco operators had to quote T&C 'as promptly as possible' following the completion of the call so the switchboard could complete their ticket which was then passed to the front desk or bookkeeper or whatever for adding to the guest's account. If telco failed to quote T&C on any given call, they wrote it off. The institution was only responsible provided the operator quoted the charge to be collected. To resolve the problem of 'you never quoted on that call' versus 'yes we did', the switchboard toll tickets were serialized, as were the toll tickets used by telco operators. The switchboard operator had to introduce each call to the long distance operator by saying 'hotel time and charges, room XXX' unless the call went out from the switchboard via 811, in which case the hotel operator merely had to introduce each call saying 'room XXX'. When the call came down a few minutes later the Bell operator frequently held the line up and would ring back to the switchboard saying 'T&C Room XXX, one dollar seventy cents plus tax, I am who are you?' And the switchboard operator would respond 'I am '. Disputes over whether or not T&C were quoted could be resolved at billing time when telco was able to produce the hotel's toll ticket serial number as proof it had been called back. In the case of bigger switchboards, often times all the toll tickets for a given period of time, usually one hour, were given to the telco supervisor to all be quoted at one time. Then the conversation would go on for several minutes, with the long distance operator telling the hotel operator, 'ready to quote are you ready?' When the hotel operator had all the tickets for the past hour or so in front of her then the LD operator would rattle off the time and charges on each, stopping after each quote for "I am 'operator ' you are?" and the hotel operator's response. In the very, very big phone rooms such as the Conrad Hilton Hotel, the University of Chicago, Rush-Presbyterian Hospital and places like that, instead of callbacks with T&C telco sent the charge amounts via telex. U of C for example had a telex machine just for use by the long distance operators. Once an hour or so that telex would come to life noisily and on the other end a clerk at telco was banging out the time and charges for all long distance calls sent through the university switchboard over the past hour. Of course the big phone rooms such as the above did not dial anything to get long distance. They did not have to use 811 or 211 ... the university operators, like the operators at the Conrad Hilton Hotel simply plugged into 'tie lines' located right on their switchboard. Little jacks that looked like any other extension on the switchboard, they were actually direct to long distance. When the long distance operators got the corresponding signal on their switchboard, it was known who was calling and the university or hotel operator merely had to pass the extension number or room number of the user since that was not readily apparent to the Bell operator. The hotels and others getting commissions from Bell for handling and paying for the long distance traffic were not supposed to use those lines (or '811') for their own administrative traffic. Those lines and the commissions paid by Bell as a result were only supposed to be used by the 'guests', (or patients, or students). Administrative traffic from the institution itself was supposed to go out over 211 the same as any 'regular' subscriber and was not commissionable. PAT] ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #261 ****************************** Received: from delta.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa26816; 31 May 95 17:23 EDT Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA11845 for telecomlist-outbound; Wed, 31 May 1995 09:21:34 -0500 Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA11837; Wed, 31 May 1995 09:21:32 -0500 Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 09:21:32 -0500 From: TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson) Message-Id: <199505311421.JAA11837@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #262 TELECOM Digest Wed, 31 May 95 09:21:00 CDT Volume 15 : Issue 262 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Can I Bring Legal Action to Force NYNEX to Do Its Job (Bradley Ward Allen) Telecom (NON)-Privacy at Ameritech (Lauren Weinstein) Help Wanted With BigMouth (Guido DeMarchi) Notice From FCC Regards ISDN - SLC Charges Today (hihosteveo@aol.com) Looking For Short Haul 56kbps Solution (Michel Adam) Is LDDS Pulling my Leg? (Dave O'Shea) French Hotels May Overcharge For Phone Calls (Nigel Allen) Fax/Voice Switches (Gary Breuckman) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of public service systems and networks including Compuserve and America On Line. It is also gatewayed to Usenet where it appears as the moderated newsgroup 'comp.dcom.telecom'. Subscriptions are available to qualified organizations and individual readers. 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Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ulmo@panix.com (Bradley Ward Allen) Subject: Can I Bring Legal Action to Force NYNEX to Do Its Job Date: 31 May 1995 04:36:20 -0400 Organization: URL:http://www.armory.com/~ulmo/ (see rivers.html for PGP key) Is someone willing to give me free legal advice who can point me at information that will work as intended in court? Here's the question: Is it possible for me to bring legal action to force NYNEX to follow laws and/or agreements it is bound to, when my relationship with it in each particular case is via some other entity, in one case via MFS, and in another via a company which uses MFS, both of which are depending on NYNEX to do something or other with their lines? In each case I am willing to do the legal procedure whereas the people I'm dealing with may or may not have the balls to do it, may or may not have the same approach to dealing with this issue, and may or may not have the same amount of stake in the issues as me, nevermind may or may not have already received appropriate bribes from the appropriate companies (hint hint?? Would I be considered an accessory if I were to ask for this?) I would have a hard time quantifying money lost. I would need to identify laws and agreements being broken; some of these may be hard to find or private; are there things that help me obtain these items? The most basic general ideas I have come up with are: causing unfairness in market; causing second, third, fourth, etc. parties to violate their own promises based on missed and/or inappropriate deadlines, reasonable levels of service, etc. I know that in the true spirit of open market, the biggest incentive for NYNEX to do their job would be for me to switch companies. However, there is no other company which is free totally from the reins of NYNEX within Manhattan except Me, Myself and I; therefore in the interest of settling these issues should I start my own telephone company just to serve myself, including all the governmental communications necessary to secure access and ability to modify the necessary properties which are between the two points which I wish to connect, and the associated money involved? Or should I see that to serve myself I must start or cause to have started a company which works for many who share similar interests and can obtain my goals? Or am I being really blind and dumb and not realizing other options to connect me at the data rate of at least 14,400 bits per second to another location within Manhattan 24 hours a day as a personal adjunct to my life that I can afford? For example, I have called the two cable companies but have not bothered researching a microwave link because I have made the rash assumption (without checking) that my four story building is not line-of-sight and microwavable to the other building (whose location I do not know) and/or the use of another radio device (not so direction dependent and humanly dangerous as microwave) is prohibitively expensive considering the applications necessary to the FCC and various other entities for bandwidth which I may use for any purpose I want to at any time via any particular transceiving method(s) which would also yield at least 14,400 bps around the clock with fairly low latency (less than 2s). Thank you for any and all help. [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Bear in mind that free legal advice is always worth everything you paid for it. Furthermore, I am not your attorney and you should seek the advice of counsel specializing in communications law before taking any action. With that said, I believe I am correct in noting that since you have no direct dealings with NYNEX, you cannot sue them for anything. They made no promises or commitments to *you*; they have violated no contracts or conditions with *you*, and your losses, if any, are due to promises that were made to you by MFS. Now perhaps 'everyone knows' that MFS has been unable to meet its commitments to you because of something NYNEX did or did not do, but that's the problem of MFS and not yourself. MFS said to you in effect 'we can do a better job' and you took them at their word and entered a contract with them. I imagine you will see their contract -- what they actually agreed to in writing with you -- gives them a way to weasel out of this also, but whether it does or does not, your complaint is with promises and commitments MFS made; promises they made when they knew or should have known that *their vendor NYNEX* was unlikely to cooperate. You did not enter into any contracts with NYNEX, therefore they owe you nothing. You can call yourself a 'telephone company' if you want to; that does not mean you are one by any generally understood use of the term, and I suggest you talk at length with the state utility commission before foolishly designating yourself with this title. And speaking of the utility commission, I think laws in many states and the telco's own tariffs require you to exhaust any and all administrative remedies prior to bringing suit -- in your case against MFS since that is the company which you allege made promises and commitments to you. But more to the meat of the matter: you say you are unable to get 14.4 on a 24 hour per day basis 'at a rate you can afford'. If that is the case, I don't think you are going to be able to pursue this legally at a rate you can afford either. Are you really serious that dialup as needed won't work just as well? Have you looked at technical explanations to your problem as well or just thought in terms of legal action? What do you suppose a judge is going to do if one did agree to hear this case? He'll listen to the technical experts from NYNEX and go along with whatever they tell him. PAT] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 May 95 01:52 PDT From: lauren@vortex.com (Lauren Weinstein) Subject: Telecom (NON)-Privacy at Ameritech Greetings. In a recent Digest, it was reported that Ameritech now allows anyone to obtain bill payment information for any Ameritech line (unless blocked by specific subscriber request) -- a true bonanza for snoops in general and for folks trolling for big bill customers to target for marketing. Obviously, this is a terrible policy. It is unfortunately not a unique situation. Ameritech's explanation (as reported in TELECOM Digest) has been spouted by numerous other utilities, banks, and other entities. If a subscriber complains, they are frequently told that "hardly anyone else has complained about the system". If 1000 people complain, they may each individually be told that they're essentially the "lone wolf". It is also common for these entities to say that they're just trying to make things easier for their customers. This is the logic used for simple passcodes (e.g. zipcode, which anyone can determine), ill-advised passcodes (e.g. use of the SS number), or as in the case of Ameritech, no passcode at all. It is unfortunately nearly always the case that "most" people won't complain about such a system until something happens that impacts them negatively as a result of the poor security on the system. The entities with these poor security policies are simply trading off the hassles and disruptions caused to subscribers about whom information from the system is misused, against having to deal with callers who can't remember their passcode. The "solution" is obvious. Ameritech should return to a "random" passcode system, and allow customers who have a problem remembering the code to either choose something simple ("0000") or opt for no code at all. But such a choice of no security should be made by the individual customer -- to make it the default condition for all customers is very bad policy. Experience has shown that the only effective way to deal with these types of situations is to complain loudly to the highest level you can reach. In the case of Ameritech, complaints (and suggestions for "fixing" the problem, as mentioned above) should be made to the billing supervisor level at least -- better yet, speak to the managers. And while it means taking the time to put it down in written form, letters to state PUCs are *extremely* important with such matters. I'm sure there are just a *few* Ameritech subscribers reading this now. If each of you expressed your opinion (one way or another) to the PUC and Ameritech regarding their system, I suspect you could have considerable impact. --Lauren-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 18:35:41 EST From: Guido De Marchi Subject: Help Wanted With BigMouth Dear Mr. Townson: In a recent article appeared in your TELECOM e-zine (May 9) you described, in quite a detailed way, the implementation of an auto- attendant system for a Greyhound bus station, in which you employed Talking Technology's BigMouth card. I have used the same card for a very similar application in my parents' shop, in Italy. I've put that card behind their Panasonic KX-T61610 PABX to answer all incoming calls (on 4 C.O. lines) and direct customers to the specific department and/or sales assistant of their choice, by means of announcements over the shop P.A. system. Needless to say it works flawlessy, and it pleases callers too. I noticed, however, that in your article you mentioned the use of a (probably) temporised job for after hours service. For a number of reasons, my parents would like the system to switch automatically to "night" mode at evenings and on weekends, and then back to the regular telebox scheme during regular business hours. I have been struggling with this problem for quite a while now, but have not made any progress yet. I must admit that my knowledge of personal computers and DOS is quite limited (after all, I'm an astronomer .... and we generally deal with quite different problems here ...). I was then wondering if you could possibly give me some hints or point me to some appropriate readings that could help me make this one more step ahead. Best regards, Guido De Marchi Space Telescope Science Institute Tel: 410 338-4810 3700 San Martin Drive Fax: 410 338-4767 Baltimore MD 21210 E-mail: demarchi@stsci.edu [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Do you have a copy of the BigMouth Programmer's Manual? Check out the routines there very carefully to see some excellent tricks you can play with BigMouth. You have to have two 'phone books' on the system, and a short script which logs in as the administrator, swaps out the phone books at the aappropriate times, etc. With the new phone book in place, the system is then rebooted and it comes back up with the overnight phone book in place, which is really the same as the daytime book except for a couple different introductory messages and the way calls are transferred to a live person. PAT] ------------------------------ From: hihosteveo@aol.com (HiHoSteveo) Subject: ISDN - SLC Charges Date: 30 May 1995 14:34:07 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Reply-To: hihosteveo@aol.com (HiHoSteveo) The FCC is expected to issue a Notice of Proposed Rulemaking (NPRM) today, freezing the charges applied to the derived channels of an IDSN facility as discussed here in prior notes. The LEC's have proposed various charges ranging from one SLC for the BRI & add'l chgs, to someone's proposal of 24 SLC's for a T-1 facility. The goal of the user community is of course to minimize the number of SLC's applied, keeping the ISDN rates as low as possible. I'll look for the public notice and post it for what it is worth - i.e. PN's tend to be very vague, and the order itself has up to 30 days to hit the street. (And a later message which arrived ... PAT) In answer to my own expectation of today's FCC order - here it is on ISDN - see also other note posted containing the lengthy NPRM. NEWSReport No. DC 95-76 ACTION IN DOCKET CASE May 30, 1995 COMMISSION CONSIDERS CHANGES TO SUBSCRIBER LINE CHARGE RULES FOR ISDN AND OTHER DERIVED CHANNEL SERVICES (CC DOCKET 95-72) The Commission is considering changes to its Subscriber Line Charge rules as they apply to Integrated Services Digital Network (ISDN) and other derived channel services. Derived channel services provide customers with multiple voice-grade-equivalent channnels over a single facility. The Commission described several basic principles that should guide this process. The Commission stated that it must be careful to avoid creating regulatory barriers to the development of beneficial new technologies, particularly when those services and technologies can facilitate access to the benefits of the National Information Infrastructure. At the same time, the Commission added that it should not favor one technology or service over others. The Commission today released a Notice of Proposed Rulemaking seeking comment on the application of Subscriber Line Charges (SLCs) to ISDN and other derived channel services. This proceeding will consider changes in the existing rules, which provide for application of a SLC to each derived channel in the case of such services. In a Public Notice, also released today, the Common Carrier Bureau announced suspension of its enforcement authority against local exchange carriers (LECs) that do not apply a SLC to each derived channel for services such as ISDN pending further action in the rulemaking proceeding. This suspension of enforcement was subject to LEC compliance with certain conditions to ensure that interstate toll rates would not increase. In the Notice of Proposed Rulemaking, the Commission proposed several alternatives for applying SLCs to derived channel technologies in addition to the current rule. These options include, among others: o Apply one SLC per facility. For example, a subscriber to either Basic Rate Interface or Primary Rate Interface ISDN service would pay one SLC for each ISDN facility. o Charge SLCs based on a ratio of the average LEC cost of providing a derived channel service to the average LEC cost of providing an ordinary local loop or T-1 facility. o Permit local exchange carriers some flexibility in setting SLC rates for derived channel services, but modify the price cap rules so that any reduction in SLC flat rate recovery does not increase the Carrier Common Line (CCL) rates and potentially increase interstate toll rates. The Commission also expressed concern about measures that could reduce SLC revenues, and potentially increase interstate toll rates. The Commission stated that the implementation of SLCs to recover a portion of the cost of local loops (that connect a subscriber's home or business with the local telephone company central office) has produced significant benefits, including reduced interstate toll rates. (A reduction in SLC revenues would permit LECs to increase CCL charges, which affect the level of interstate toll rates.) The Commission stated that policies that appear to reduce dramatically SLC charges to large business customers, but not to residential customers, would need to be carefully examined. The Commission also noted that resolution of these issues should take into account competitive developments in the interstate access market. ISDN permits digital transmission over ordinary local loops and T-1 facilities through the use of advanced central office equipment and customer premises equipment. Currently, carriers offer two basic types of ISDN service. Basic Rate Interface service allows a subscriber to obtain two voice-grade-equivalent channels and a data/signalling channel over an ordinary local loop. Primary Rate Interface service allows subscribers to obtain 23 voice-grade-equivalent channels and one data/signalling channel over a T-1 facility. The costs of the local loop portion of the telephone network are recovered through charges levied at both state and federal levels, with approximately 25 percent of those costs collected through interstate charges. Since 1984, those charges have been collected through SLCs, a flat fee on every subscriber's monthly telephone bill, as well as a usage-sensitive charge called the Carrier Common Line charge. For residential and single line customers, the SLC is capped at $3.50 per line. For multiline business users, the charge is capped at $6 per line. That portion of the interstate costs not collected through the SLC is collected through the CCL charge, a per minute charge reflected in interstate long distance rates. Action by the Commission May 24, 1995, by Notice of Proposed Rulemaking (FCC 95-212). Chairman Hundt, Commissioners Quello, Barrett, Ness and Chong. -FCC- News Media contact: Susan Lewis Sallet at (202) 418-1500. Common Carrier Bureau contact: Claudia Pabo at (202) 418-1595. [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: A more detailed version of the above was also sent out in a special mailing to Digest subscribers earlier today for those of you who wanted more specifics. PAT] ------------------------------ From: Michel Adam Subject: Looking For Short Haul 56kbps Solution Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 04:44:25 MDT Organization: NTNet Society I am in need of the expertise of the readers of this group. We need to provide 56kbps connections to numerous customers in town (we are a non-profit society providing internet connections in the Canadian North), and have had some success with expensive Synchronous CSU/DSU. We would like to use an abundance of Asynchronous ports on our Netblazer to provide 56kbps at a much lower cost. We will be using leased lines, the 4-wire garden variety, 24ga., over up to 4 miles (5 would be better, but it appears to be stretching it...). Using good old RS-232, and preferrably Rack mounted at our central location, and stand-alone at the remote end. Is there anything that will do the job? Our target price per connection is around $US 730, or $CAN 1000. The current candidate for the central site is a Black-Box rack with Mini Driver MP Cards (page 20 of the summer 95 catalog), ME778C-RJ11. The only problem is that there does not appears to be any Stand-alone equivalent for the other side. Does anyone know who actually MAKE these units? Any help greatly appreciated. Thanks, Michel Adam michela@ntnet.nt.ca ------------------------------ From: dos@panix.com (Dave O'Shea) Subject: Is LDDS Pulling My Leg? Date: 30 May 1995 15:55:44 -0400 Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC I had thought the days of this kind of blame-shifting were over, but it seems not. Recently, I moved to the Houston area, and ordered three dial lines for my house. The local telco did a fairly adequate job of installing the new cable and lines on time, and only needed to come back once to get it working. The problem started as soon as I tried to use a high-speed (14.4 or 28.8) modem on the lines. Connections either renegotiate or drop off constantly. 2400 seemed to be the only thing that worked. Southwest bell was called in, and their answer was to send a guy to hook a butt set to the demarc, and check for dial tone. (The analogy of a speed-bump on the Infobahn didn't cross my mind. Well, maybe only once.) Same problem continued, until I finally noticed that this was only happening on long-distance connections. Aha! I use LDDS as my carrier, since they have good rates, so I tried having the modem stick a 10288 in front of a number, to see if the old death-star folks could do any better. Call gets completed, and the signal levels have my modems practically singing Beethoven's ninth in praise of a clear signal. Call went in to LDDS. (24 hrs later, no response, so opened up a second trouble ticket). The next evening, I call LDDS to check up on the ticket, and their CSR proudly announces that it has been tracked down to an AT&T problem. (I remind her that using AT&T is the only way I can actually COMPLETE a call, and if that's a symptom of the problem, for God's sake, please don't fix it!) Two days later, and I'm ready to use tin cans and string. Call up LDDS, and track down the tech who worked on the ticket. Bottom line: LDDS will not guarantee any data connection at all, and simply suggests that I switch to AT&T, or go back to using a 1200bps modem. Vague mumblings were offered about AT&T either having better connections or less aggressive compression algorithms, and that if I screamed enough, I might get someone to listen, but no specific suggestions or where to turn could be given. Well, I just got off the phone with AT&T, who seemed quite happy to have my business. I guess the old "you get what you pay for" holds true in this case. I wonder if anybody out at LDDS heard it. :-) So, my question is, if I were serious about getting LDDS to provide decent service, who would I have to chase after -- them, or Southwest bell? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 17:02:48 -0400 Subject: French Hotels May Overcharge For Phone Calls Organization: 52 Manchester Avenue, Toronto, Ontario M6G 1V3 From: ndallen@io.org (Nigel Allen) An article in the Toronto {Globe and Mail} travel section (page E1, May 27, 1995) warns that hotels and restaurants in France are now free to charge whatever they want for calls made from pay phones and room phones on their premises. The rates are supposed to be posted, but may be confusing to people from outside France if they are quoted per pulse rather than per minute. People travelling in the U.S. have learned to watch out for COCOTs, and for hotel phone rates anywhere in the world. Now it seems that France has been added to the list of countries with rip-off pay phones. Nigel Allen, Toronto, Ontario, Canada ndallen@io.org ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 00:07:48 PDT From: Gary Breuckman Subject: Fax/Voice Switches Scott A. Merlino wrote: > Does anyone know of any high-quality (as in reliable and easily > implemented) FAX/MODEM/phone switches on the market? If anybody is using > such a switch, and is satisfied with it, I would sure appreciate a > recommendation. Our office cannot afford to install a separate FAX line > for data transmissions, so we would like to use our existing phone line. You are probably aware (but didn't mention!) that there are two different kinds of switches. The first silently answers the call and listens for the "CNG" tones from a "calling" fax, or touchtone codes, or "reverse" modem tones, and routes the call accordingly generating it's own ringing signals on the appropriate output jack. The other type uses "distinctive ringing" or "ringmate" or whatever your local telco calls that service, and routes the call by listening to the ringing pattern, without actually answering the call first. This telco feature provides more than one number for your line with different ring patterns, at a lower cost than a separate line, although of course you only have one real line and except for features like three-way-calling and call-waiting, you can only have one call in progress at a time. I use a ComSwitch 660, one of the first type. The box has an input jack and outputs for FAX, PHONE, ANS-MACHINE, and AUX. Phone and Ans-mach are really just connected together, AUX is for your modem (or other). The box answers the call, listens for the CNG (calling) tone from a fax, and if found rings the fax, if not rings the Phone/ans-mach jacks. You can also assign a touch tone code of up to 4 digits to both the FAX and AUX lines and route calls that way - the box has applications beyond just FAX switching. I only have one regular caller who has a fax so old it doesn't send CNG tones. FAX machines in manual mode also don't send CNG (ie., if you pick up the handset to place the call). That person uses the touchtone code to route it to the fax. Reverse modem tone is a modem that places a call with itself in ANSWER mode so it sends a tone. The answering modem must then be in originate mode to communicate. All this doesn't work well with the new modems that have type recognition and multiple handshakes, I find using the touchtone codes to work fine. Cost of this box was around $90. This type of box can be used on any line without additional telco costs. The second type is possibly more reliable and lets you advertise separate fax and voice numbers, but with a monthly telco cost. puma@netcom.com ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #262 ****************************** Received: from delta.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa00378; 1 Jun 95 1:53 EDT Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id SAA00669 for telecomlist-outbound; Wed, 31 May 1995 18:49:14 -0500 Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id SAA00661; Wed, 31 May 1995 18:49:11 -0500 Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 18:49:11 -0500 From: TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson) Message-Id: <199505312349.SAA00661@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #263 TELECOM Digest Wed, 31 May 95 18:49:00 CDT Volume 15 : Issue 263 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson $0 to $3 per Month Cellular Service (Keith Jaret) ALI From Centrex With Many Locations (Tom Steegmann) Latest ITU-T (CCITT) Country Code List (Mark Cuccia) International Jobs for Telecom Specialists Up to $500/day (Dave Herndon) Information Wanted on ADSI Standard (Alex Zacharov) Synergy Semiconductor Attacks Speed Barriers w/High Speed FIFOs (Gelphman) Avon Park, Florida Area Code Question (Carl Moore) Centrex Research Project (Charles P. Whaley) Information Wanted On V.SAVD, Cable Modems (Matthew A. Earley) Information Wanted on FSL (Gary Mason) Local Call From Norfolk to Hampton VA? (Guy Cox) Phone Line Voltage (Keith Knipschild) Information Needed on GST or GST Net (John Royce) Re: FCC ISDN SLCs Ruling (Steve J. Slavin) Re: New Name For LDDS (Nigel Allen) Re: Telephone Voice "Broadcast" Software? (David K. Leikam) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. 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Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEITH@tcs.com Date: 31 May 95 14:38:09 PST Subject: $0 to $3 per Month Cellular Service! After reading an earlier article in this Digest entitled "Using a Unregistered Cellular Phone", I decided to try it myself with a recently acquired "brick" phone. I posted a Usenet request and received helpful private email replies from Darrel, Simon, and David. Their information is incorporated here, and I thank them for it. Here is what I have learned about low-cost emergency cellular service in northern California: PLAN A In northern California, setting the MIN (phone number) and the carrier code to all zeros, as described in the article, worked very briefly only. By working, I mean that an attempt to call any number would reach a recording telling me to dial *311 for an operator to place a credit card call. I dialed *311 and verified Cellular One's rates: $1.25 for setup and $1.95 per minute, as I recall. Of course you do have to give your credit card number over the air, which is a bit of a worry. Alas, a few hours later, any use of the Send button yielded only a reorder (fast busy) signal. Even 911 was blocked! Since I did not write the carrier's MTSO switch software, I do not know exactly what caused the system to block my phone. But I suspect that it was either the fact that my phone number was all zeros or that I attempted a non-free call by entering a local number and pressing Send. I next set the MIN to a non-zero value, using a known non-cellular phone number, since I didn't want to appear to the switch software to be impersonating a valid user. I left the carrier code as all zeros. This time, I did not attempt a non-free call. Instead, I restricted my testing to *nnn calls. An attempted call to the traffic reporting line of a local all-news radio station gave me the same recording I described above. Sure enough, *311 now gets me the credit card operator. I have not tried 911, but I'll bet it does work at the moment, and I'd rather not annoy the CHP. Through two weeks of occasional testing, the phone has continued to give me the recording asking me to dial *311, rather than the fast busy that I got when service was blocked. Thus, although I have not actually placed any calls, I believe that the phone will allow me to make a call when I need to. On the basis of this testing, I believe that in northern California, to have durable *311 access for credit card calling without a cellular subscription, one or both of the following actions is required: 1) setting the MIN to a non-zero value; 2) refraining from attempting any non-free calls. Minimizing the time your phone is powered on wouldn't hurt, either, so the phone will not be sending its MIN and ESN (equipment serial number) to the network every five minutes. My testing did not reveal a problem here, possibly meaning that the switch software does not check the MIN/ESN pair until a call is actually attempted. But you might as well keep the phone off and save the battery. There is really no need to turn the phone on until you want to make a call, since you can't receive calls anyway. I have not experimented with carrier codes other than zero, so I recommend setting the code to zero unless the above does not work. I can't imagine that anything good would happen if the switch software finds out that your supposed carrier either doesn't exist or doesn't know who you are. If the above technique works for you, you have emergency cellular service, outgoing calls only, at roughly $2 per minute, $0 per month -- not a bad deal! Otherwise, it's time for ... PLAN B If the above does not work, you have several other options. First, if you can call at first but get blocked shortly thereafter, you could become a *paying* hacker, figuring out how to change your ESN and doing so once per credit card call, so that the switch software does not have the ESN in its "kill file". Not very practical and not recommended. Second, you could sign up for a cheap "zero minutes free" service. For $35 per year, roughly $3 per month, you can subscribe to HELPTEL, which provides outgoing-only call capability at $3.50 per minute (ouch!) anywhere in the US. If you were in northern California, you could dial *311 for cheaper outgoing calls instead. Your local carriers may have an equivalent service. The main thing HELPTEL does for you is to make your phone officially subscribed, so that the MTSO switch software will not block your MIN/ESN pair. Call Lindsay Communications in Leominster, Mass. 800-370-4445 for the brochure on HELPTEL. I did. They are a direct reseller of air time. They normally charge $45 for programming, but they will give you the necessary information to program your own phone, which isn't any more difficult than programming a VCR. My thanks to Darrel for this find. Third, for slightly greater use, and rates lower than $3.50 per minute, you can sign up for an emergency plan with a Canadian cellular carrier. The rate is $15 Canadian per month, which is probably better than your local carrier offers. The bonus with this option is that you should be able to make calls *to* the cellular phone in unusual circumstances. For example, a one-minute call would suffice to notify you to call home from the nearest pay phone. In fact, if you knew no one else would be calling, you could simply turn the phone off when it rings (rather than answering the call and incurring a one-minute charge), drive to the nearest pay phone, and call home. That would let your cellular phone work as a crude wide-area pager. The fourth option costs a bit more and requires a trusted friend. I don't claim to fully understand this suggestion, but I am told that you and your friend can split the cost of a cellular phone and extension with the same number. This would work much better if you don't plan to take incoming calls on the cellular phone. Cellular One tells me that they do not offer this service here in northern California. Such an offering would probably require that the switch software be able to associate two different ESNs with the same MIN. Or you could alter the ESNs to match each other and hope that both phones are never turned on at the same time (which the switch software would interpret as fraudulent use). Based on my limited understanding, I can't recommend this option unless your carrier offers it officially. CONCLUSION In summary, it's time to buy a used cellular phone for your wife's birthday! Costs about the same as a couple dozen roses. One way or another, you *can* make it work for outgoing calls! keith@tcs.com Keith Jarett ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 10:27:39 -0800 Subject: ALI From Centrex With Many Locations From: steegman@tomcindy.rotterdam.ny.us (Tom Steegmann) Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 13:26:34 -0400 (EDT) I work for Schenectady County, NY E911, and we are having a problem with some of the larger centrex operations (including the one for our county office building). The problem is that the ALI information coming from any of the trunks is undependable. The county government is based at 620 State St, but has offices in at least seven other buildings all on 388-xxxx. According to NYNEX, it is actually a centrex sitting on top of a PBX, if that helps. Anyway, the centrex has only 14 lines going out, and the 15th line picked up rolls over to a non dedicated 386-2xxx line, of which there are 30 extras. The 386-2xxx lines are based in 1 Broadway Center, where my office is. Now, if anyone calls 911 from ANY 388-xxxx line, it will either show up as 620 State St, or if it the 15th or greater line picked up, 1 Broadway Center. I am wondering if there is any way to program the centrex into recognizing a 911 call and forcing it through with the correct ALI information. I thought maybe installing a dedicated outside line (not on the centrex) at each location that to use for 911 calls might be a solution. I don't know, I'm new at phones. At any rate, NYNEX has been reluctant to engage in discussion with us so I can assume they don't really want to deal with it. We can't possibly be the first people to recognize the risks involved here. If anyone has any idea what I'm talking about, please reply to my email address. Thanks for any ideas, we are getting close to going on line, and have only non-solutions so far (NYNEX suggested that we blank out all ALI information for all the numbers on that centrex. That's not a solution.) Tom Steegmann Schenectady County E911 steegman@tomcindy.rotterdam.ny.us [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Centrexes do *not* all have to return the same address. I just now tried the Name and Address service offered by Ameritech (312-796-9600) and punched in a couple different numbers on the centrex for the City of Chicago Police Department. The response -- although somewhat convoluted -- came back 'City of Chicago 25th District Grand- Central, 5555 West Grand Avenue'. I was advised there are 'many' listings for that number and did I want another one? A second listing for the same number was 'Police Chicago Dept 25th Dist. 5555 W. Grand Avenue'. And that was the 25th District station of the Chicago Police Department at the address given. The City of Chicago uses 312-744, 312-746, and 312-747 for its centrex, and this covers all agencies and departments. When I tried 744-4000 which is the main switchboard number the listing was 'Chicago City, 121 N. Lasalle' which is City Hall. Now I realize the database which is used for Caller-ID and public services such as Ameritech's are not going to be entirely the same as those used by 911, however the different numbers on a centrex can be picked out and identified one from another *provided it was set up that way*. If all the centrex lines were listed with the same address when the centrex was installed then so be it; that's what the database will show. In the case of a PBX where all the trunks are at one place, and users at an OPX (off-premise extension) dial 9 to get an outside line, then everyone is going to show up at the address where the switchboard is physically located, since usually when the telco central office responds to the PBX trunk it has no idea which user the PBX is dealing with. Maybe some readers with E911 experience will write in to tell how they deal with oddities such as you describe. One of the reasons I have not bothered with CID Name and Number (we can now get this enhanced service if we buy new Caller ID boxes) is that a friend who has it says there is little consistency in how the listings come through. Residences are almost always consistently correct, but the large companies with DID, Centrex, humongous PBX's and other specialized arrangements are likely to come through with the 'name' given as whatever someone punched in when the order was being installed, if they bothered to punch in anything at all. In a few cases here, entire prefixes although working show up as 'no information listed' when you try to cross-check through the Name and Address service. And my friend with CID Name and Number service says in the case of large companies calling him, quite often the number will be displayed as one of the lines used for outgoing calls with the 'name' given as 'Unknown' or 'Not Listed' -- not to be confused with non-pub numbers which are not listed with directory assistance but do show up with name and number via Caller-ID. PAT] ------------------------------ From: Mark Cuccia Subject: Latest ITU-T (CCITT) Country Code List Date: Wed, 31 May 95 10:27:00 GMT In surfing the ITU WWW & Gopher site, I looked at the latest Telephone Country Code List, NUM & ALPHA. Here are some of the LATEST changes/assignments which may not have been discussed in previous in TELECOM Digest: 296 for Tr & Tob is NOT on it anymore - it NOW IS listed as '1' (Tr & Tob. was not previously included with '1' with the other 1-809 Carib.points)(296 is now 'spare'). 295 is gone. The entire 87 series is reserved or used for Intl.Maritime/Mobile (871 thru 874 USED, 875-879 reserved, 870 says reserved for InMarSat 'SNAC' trial). Russia and five Central Asian former SSR's use 7. Czech & Slovakia still share 42. Comoros & Mayotte still share 269. 41 is still shared by Switz. & Liecht. Greenland still 299. Faroe still 298. Aruba still 297. 382,3,4,8 are still 'spare'. 970,8,9 still 'spare' (altho' I DO remember that 15 years ago, 971 was UAE except for Abu-Dhabi(sp) and Dubai -- one was 978 and the other was 979). 969 is stated as 'reserved - but currently under investigation' -- Seems as the unified Yemen will all have 967. (I know that one of the two 'former Yemens' was known at one time as Aden). Of course, 886 is listed as 'spare' with Taiwan shown in a footnote as 86-6, part of (Red) China. 255 is Tanzania, while 259 is still listed as Zanzibar (Tanzania). 800 is still 'reserved' for future International FREEFONE. 0 is stated as 'Assignment not feasible until after Time-T, 31 Dec.96'. There is still no assignment for Pitcairn Island (I would guess that it will be 693 if ever assigned its own code), nor a seperate code for 'Sikkim' (a territory near Bhutan, India, Nepal, Red China -- but I am never quite sure who it belongs to politically), nor Easter Island (but I would think that it is part of Chile's code), nor any of those small British Islands in the South Atlantic (probably would be part of 500 Falklands or maybe part of Ascension 247 or St.Helena 290), nor any other small French Is.in the Indian Ocean. For those interested, there are also updated lists for Telex country codes, Data Network country codes, '89' International Telephone Chargecard country/network/card-issuer codes, and Intl.SS7 network codes (some are NUM only, some are ALPHA by country/network/region only, and some have two seperate lists Numerical and Alpha). These various code lists are as of December, 1994 thru May, 1995. MARK J. CUCCIA PHONE/WRITE/WIRE: Work: mcuccia@law.tulane.edu UNiversity 5-5954 (TEL, +1 504 865 5954) UNiversity 5-5917 (FAX, +1 504 865 5917) Home: 4710 Wright Road New Orleans 28 Louisiana (70128) USA CHestnut 1-2497 (Home Tel) (fwds.on busy/no-answr.to cellphone/voicemail) (+1 504 241 2497) [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Your use of the phrase 'Red China' is incorrect. Yes, when you and I were growing up that was correct. There was China and euphemistically 'Red' (or Communist) China. That was as of 1949 until about ten years ago, when international politics changed. Now we have 'China' and 'Taiwan'. We now recognize the legitimacy of the former but not the latter. Taiwan is what we in the USA used to call 'China' and China is what we in in the USA used to call 'Red China'. Always be politically correct in this forum, just like me! PAT] ------------------------------ From: daveh@aol.com (DaveH) Subject: International Jobs for Telecom Specialists Up to $500/day Date: 30 May 1995 02:25:23 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Reply-To: daveh@aol.com (DaveH) This position is available through SCII U.S. Technologies, International specialists in systems architecture consulting and in software and MIS placement. Areas of expertise include Banks, Telecommunications and Transportation. CONTRACT Job Title: Oracle? Unix Consultants, Telecommunication specialists Location: USA, Phillipines, Mexico, South Africa Compensation: up to $500/Day + Expenses Education Requirements: BS in CS Years Experience: 3-5 Required Experience: Oracle, UNIX, Billing Systems Preferred Experience: French or Spanish speaking Comments: If you wish to be a candidate for SCII Technologies technical assignments, please send us your current resume and a completed confidential professional profile form (see below). (Your name will not be submitted to any company without your consent.) CONFIDENTIAL PROFESSIONAL PROFILE FORM Name: Address: City, state, zip: Home phone: Work phone: Company: Title: Current salary: Education: Years experience: Are you a US citizen, Permanent Resident, other?: If "other", please explain: Are you a homeowner or renter?: Would you consider relocating?: Are you willing to consider contract assignments?: Send this registration form and your resume to: America Online EMAIL: DaveH Fax: 415 546-4198 Or mail to: SCII U.S. Technologies Ltd. Attn: Dave Herndon Acount Manager 1 Sansome St. Suite 2100 San Francisco Ca. 94104 ------------------------------ From: alexz@tmx100.elex.co.il (TMX1002 Alex Zacharov 2396) Subject: Information Wanted on ADSI Standard Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 14:49:59 GMT Organization: Telrad Ltd. I am looking for text sources of Bellcore standard ADSI. Can anybody tell me where can I get it? (anonymous ftp is preferable). Please, send me information to: alexz@tmx100.elex.co.il. Thanks in advance, Alex, Telrad Ltd. ------------------------------ From: gelphman@ix.netcom.com (Rob Gelphman) Subject: Synergy Semiconductor Attacks Speed Barriers w/ High Speed FIFOs Date: 30 May 1995 20:24:34 GMT Organization: Netcom Synergy Semiconductor is now offering two, new ultra-high speed FIFO (first in, first out) buffers. Both are 64 word - by - 18-bit components. The SY69167 performs one write OR one read operation at up to 200 MHz (5ns cycle) and the SY69168 performs one write AND/OR one read operation at up to 100 MHz (10ns cycle). Both devices are 10KH ECL compatible. These FIFO buffers are used in automatic test equipment as vector data buffers, in telecommunications systems in data rate conversion subsystems, and in computers for minimizing data skewing, and any other system where high-speed data buffering is a critical requirement. These new FIFO products offer designers several key design benefits. As wide-word devices, these products can buffer two parity-checked bytes per chip. Thus, designers need fewer devices, less board space, and lower power supply, reducing overall design and production costs. A single-clock synchronous design makes these two ECL FIFOs easier to use while avoiding the complicated timing constraints imposed by the more traditionally-used and lower-performance CMOS FIFOs. The SY69167 and -168 are both single-stage pipeline designs with all control and data signals registered on the rising edge of the clock. Thus, designers need only concern themselves with set up and hold timing with reference to the clock. All input signals are sampled on the rising edge of the clock and a read or write operation begins during the next clock period. All output signals are driven by registers which are also clocked on the rising clock edge. Thus one read or one write operation can occur with each clock cycle in the -167, or both operations in the -168. Status flag logic provides empty, half full and full status flag outputs. In addition, there are interrupt outputs for overflow and underflow conditions. Chip initialization is easily done using the reset input pin. When pulled low, this pin initializes the device and resets both read and write pointers to zero. On-chip voltage and temperature compensation circuitry provide improved noise margins. Finally, the chip is designed for enhanced alpha-particle immunity. Both the SY69167 and SY69168 are available in 64-pin QFPs, and are priced at $125 in quantities of 1000. For More Information: kent@synergysemi.com Synergy Semiconductor 3450 Central Expressway Santa Clara, CA 95051 408/730-1313 fax: 408/737-0831 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 May 95 17:24:57 EDT From: Carl Moore Subject: Avon Park, Florida Area Code Information Wanted I have an old area-codes file which has Avon Park in 813. Is it staying there or is it going to 941? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 10:55:55 -0500 From: cwhaley@astral.magic.ca (Charles P. Whaley) Subject: Centrex Research Project Basically, I'm in the early stages of a research project on Centrex. I'm pretty much up to speed on what's offered by the telcos, and will shortly be interviewing some actual customers. Before I do, however, I'd be interested in whether anyone out there knows of any Centrex user organizations, user groups, or online discussion groups. I've been searching through the Archives here, and (so far) haven't seen much with a user bent to it. Any help will be appreciated. Charles P. Whaley, Ph.D. Phone: (416) 423-3582 Suite 3702, 85 Thorncliffe Park Drive Fax: (416) 423-0331 Toronto, Ontario M4H 1L6 Email: Charles_Whaley@magic.ca ------------------------------ From: mearley@acsu.buffalo.edu (Matthew A Earley) Subject: Information Wanted On V.SAVD, Cable Modems Date: 31 May 1995 16:15:46 GMT Organization: UB I'm aware of the V.xx series standards such as the V.34, V.42, V.32, etc. However, recently I came across a new one V.SAVD, it was briefly mentioned in an article without reference. Does V.SAVD have anything to do with the proposed V.34 fax standard, or possibly a cable modem? Any information on V.SAVD, Cable Modems, or the V.34 Fax would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance as they say, Matthew A. Earley SUNYAB IEEE VP Buffalo NY 14228 716-639-9211 ------------------------------ From: g_mason@ix.netcom.com (Gary Mason) Subject: Information Wanted on FSL Date: 31 May 1995 17:02:55 GMT Organization: Netcom FSL (Flexible Service Logic), a component of service building in AIN (Advanced Intelligent Network), is said to be addressed by Bellcore and CCITT.3. Haven't been able to Gopher anything up. Does anyone know titles of documents (what does CCITT.3 stand for?) or know of any literature discussing this subject? Gary Mason ------------------------------ From: cox2@ix.netcom.com (Guy Cox) Subject: Local Call From Norfolk to Hampton VA? Date: 31 May 1995 11:26:48 GMT Organization: Netcom Subject says it all. I am getting ready to move to Hampton VA. The only local access number in the tidewater Virginia for Netcom is in Norfolk. ------------------------------ From: keith.knipschild@asb.com Organization: America's Suggestion Box (516) 471-8625 Date: Wed, 31 May 95 16:07:31 -0500 Subject: Phone Line Voltage I am having a problem with the phones in my house, I have about seven extensions, with many different types of phones, such as a Panasonic, Western Electric Princess, Northern Tel. 9516, ATT 8110. Well the problem is: I'll be talking on the Northern Tel 9516 phone,and then my wife picks up the ATT 8110 phone, she gets NOTHING!! (a dead line); and if shes on the ATT8110 phone and I pick up a phone (any phone) the ATT 8110 goes dead ... Also, if I put the call on HOLD (using the hold button on the Panasonic) I sometimes can pick up the line from the ATT 8110 or even the WE Princess. (Don't blame it on the ATT 8110, I just used it as an example.) It seems that different phones draw different amounts of CURRENT when on line and some phones need a certain voltage/current to work to pick up the line. So what is the minimum amount of voltage when the the line is in use? I measured the following : ATT 8110 7.11 v NT 9516 6.61 v WE Princess 5.20 v Panasonic 10.76 v Now with the 9516 and 8110 the voltage droped to 5.58 v and with the 8110 and Panasonic the voltage was 4.96 v What can I do to solve this problem? so now I connected 4+ phones and the voltage was 2.95 v Please help me out. Thanks, Keith.Knipschild @ asb.com === Internet Address Keith @ Unix.ASB.com === SLIP Internet Address N2NJS @ KC2FD.NY.USA.NA === Ham Radio AX25 Packet Address 70302,2701 === CompuServe Address K.Knipschild === GENIE Address [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I guess what you have to do is call the Telephone Company and tell them to quit being so chintzy with the amount of power they send down the line. Tell then you need at least a couple more volts on a regular basis. . You are really pressing your luck with that much stuff -- and such a variety at that -- on the line all at the same time. I am surprised the bells even ring correctly when a call comes in. Do you have a second, or third phone line there? Try balancing the load a little if you do, moving a couple of the phones using the most current to another line and putting something simple in their place on the original line. Normally three or four instruments is the most you should have on a single line. I guess another way of phrasing your question would be this: I have an air-conditioner, a television, a microwave oven and a clothes washer in my house, but the single circuit in my fuse box has a 15 amp fuse. Why can't I stay cool watching television while I wash my clothes and cook my dinner? Someone told me about 30 amp fuses so I went and got one of those and all my appliances kept right on running, even when I was out one day and forgot to turn them off. Imagine my surprise to get home and see the Fire Department there putting out the blaze started by the overheated wiring. The Telephone Company sends you a certain amount of current. That's it. Live with it. PAT] ------------------------------ From: Turnip@ix.netcom.com (John Royce) Subject: Information Needed on GST or GST Net Date: 31 May 1995 03:33:16 GMT Organization: Netcom Anyone having any information regarding this telecommunications company, your response would be appreciated. ------------------------------ From: sjslavin@aol.com (SJSlavin) Subject: Re: FCC ISDN SLCs Ruling Date: 31 May 1995 12:52:01 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Reply-To: sjslavin@aol.com (SJSlavin) [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Earlier Wednesday, I circulated the FCC notice on ISDN. I got various copies from different readers but not a single one came intact. I printed what I had, which seemed to be the gist of it. I used sjslavin@aol.com as the source for the one I sent out, and he now responds. PAT] Thanks PAT -- no that's not where it was to end -- it is about 13 pages long when I printed the whole thing off line and pasting it blew my mind. This is a Notice of Proposed Rulemaking (NPRM) and apparently exceeded buffer length. I wasn't able to truly download it v. buffer it. Interested parties should check the FCC server under Common Carrier. The note above was an auxilliary Public Notice (odd way of doing business). Steve ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 02:28:13 -0400 From: ndallen@io.org (Nigel Allen) Subject: Re: New Name For LDDS Greg Monti writes: > A brief notice in {Communications Daily} on 5/26 noted that LDDS > shareholders had approved "WorldCom" as the new name of the merged > long distance carrier made up of LDDS, IDB Communications Group, > WilTel Network Services. Interestingly, the telecommunications services (telex and cablegrams) unit of ITT was known as ITT Worldcom, at least in its later years. I think that ITT eventually divested its telecommunications operating unit, but I don't know who acquired it. (ITT's telecom manufacturing unit became part of Alcatel.) Nigel Allen 52 Manchester Avenue, Toronto, Ontario M6G 1V3, Canada Internet: ndallen@io.org http://www.io.org/~ndallen Telephone: (416) 535-8916 ------------------------------ From: dkl@crl.com (David K. Leikam) Subject: Re: Telephone Voice "Broadcast" Software? Date: 31 May 1995 07:22:31 -0700 > Harold Hallikainen wrote: >> Anyway, the school where I teach is interested in software >> that would do something similar to a fax broadcast, but it would be >> voice. They'd have a list of the students in a particular class and >> if the class were cancelled, the system could call each of them and >> let them know. But I'm wondering if there's some simple PC software that could also do it. and paraprasing here, Harold said, for about $70. I responded: > Well, nothing *I* am aware of, that I'd trust to do a halfway decent job. > Thinking about the problems of reliability sorta starts me towards a fair > sized headache ... (deep breath) Robert Virzi wrote: So David says, basically, 'No'. Or at least not for less than $2k - $10k. I think you are over engineering the solution. This is for a school. Most of the numbers that the kids have are POTS lines, nothing fancy like pagers and the like. Answering machines need to be dealt with, true. But generally the particular population might really benefit from a cheap, somewhat reliable system, rather than no system. I suspect you're not reading between the lines enough, Robert. Harold was speaking of calling the students in a class to tell them it has been cancelled. That sounds a lot more like a college than a grade-school, to me. So, first off there's the POTS question -- some of them likely live in dorms on campus, so you've got the university pbx, if any, to deal with as well. Second, pagers and the like are cheap and getting cheaper. Likewise voicemail services. I think you'd find more of that kind of thing than you expect. And for most of the issues I detailed, the type of service isn't too material -- it's what you get on the other end, no matter how you get there. > Why not simply call through the list, playing the message on offhook, > repeating the message until (a) the line is released or (b) 90 seconds > has elapsed? If a person gets it, they listen to it, or have some > time to call Mom over to the phone to hear the message. If its an > answering machine, they get 90 seconds of the message (minus the time > for the OGM) on the tape. Should be pretty simple for the system to > track busy/no answer and call those numbers back. The students are going to want to be notified according to their schedules, not yours. That means, in all likelihood, at work sometimes. You'll need to deal with secretaries, company pbx's, long hold times, voice attendants, extension numbers, and so forth. Otherwise, you're just blurting the message and hoping someone/something was there to get it, and hopefulling willing to deliver it (correctly) to the intended receiver. > I'm not suggesting this is a bulletproof system. Far from it. But > the requirements don't seem to call for one. If this user population > knows about the system, it will work even better because parents will > be hanging by waiting for the call to hear soccer is cancelled because > of rain. This kind of simple system could be built on a Mac, and I'm > guessing an Intel processor as well. For not much money, and a little > development time. A soccer game is one thing. A rescheduled class, another. One bit of private feedback that I got from this, someone told me that if they missed an important class because of something like this, they'd probably sue the university. Can't blame 'em, myself. The bottom line is, can you live with the failure rate you're likely to get? For a lot of applications, yes. For this one, I don't think so. The 20-30% of people who show up for the cancelled class are going to be upset, and downright angry if it happens a lot. And suppose it's not a class, but a major exam? If you're willing to accomodate those who say they didn't hear about the change, what's to stop anyone from claiming that, and will you fade the heat from irate faculty who have to deal with them, because of your system's shortcomings? Let's suppose you think that you can. You put in the system, but later, when the stack of complaints and hate-mail overflows your in-basket, you decide you need to improve it. Can you, with the particular system you've chosen? What will it cost? Do you have the budget, or is it better to just cut your losses and scrap it? How many people need to be notified and what amount of time does that take? What if you need more lines than you thought? Can you expand your budget system to handle more lines? What if your university rewires the phone system for a different pbx, maybe even a digital one? Can your budget system adapt? What will that cost? There are some very important issues here, and I think they need more engineering, not less, to avoid unpleasant surprises later on. ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #263 ****************************** Received: from delta.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa00590; 1 Jun 95 2:04 EDT Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id TAA02433 for telecomlist-outbound; Wed, 31 May 1995 19:47:32 -0500 Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id TAA02425; Wed, 31 May 1995 19:47:30 -0500 Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 19:47:30 -0500 From: TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson) Message-Id: <199506010047.TAA02425@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #264 TELECOM Digest Wed, 31 May 95 19:47:00 CDT Volume 15 : Issue 264 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Book Review: "Education on the Internet" by Ellsworth (Rob Slade) Wanted: Low-Cost Multiplexers (Diamantis Papazoglou) AC 303: What Number Should I Use to Get Number of This Phone? (Dawn Adler) BC to Wisconsin Data Line Type? (Andrew Tuline) Plan to Abolish FCC (Bennett Z. Kobb) T1/FT1 Provider in LA Area (Philip Kim) Re: Telco Northwestel Errs With PBX; Help Please (Mike Sandman) Re: Telco Northwestel Errs With PBX; Help Please (Fred R. Goldstein) Re: Is it Northern or Nortel? (Richard Parkinson) Re: Algorithm For Parsing Phone Numbers (Linc Madison) Re: California's New Area Code: 760 (Scott D. Fybush) Re: Telecom History (James H. Haynes) Re: Telecom History (Robert B Muderick) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of public service systems and networks including Compuserve and America On Line. 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Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 14:21:29 EST From: Rob Slade Subject: Book Review: "Education on the Internet" by Ellsworth BKEDCINT.RVW 950413 "Education on the Internet", Ellsworth, 1994, 0-672-30595-X, U$25.00/C$34.95 %A Jill Ellsworth je@world.std.com %C 201 W. 103rd Street, Indianapolis, IN 46290 %D 1994 %G 0-672-30595-X %I SAMS Publishing %O U$25.00/C$34.95 800-858-7674 75141.2102@compuserve.com 317-581-3743 %P 591 %T "Education on the Internet" Appendix A gives a "once over lightly" on the various Internet tools, and Appendix B describes ERIC (the Educational Resources Information Center). The rest of the book lists different mailing lists, newsgroups, telnet sites, gopher sites, and other resources. There are divisions by level and subject, although the formatting can make it very hard to find what you want. Most of the resources have something to do with education. Educators may find it worthwhile getting the more general resource catalogues, where it is easier to find a specific topic. copyright Robert M. Slade, 1995 BKEDCINT.RVW 950413. Distribution permitted in TELECOM Digest and associated publications. Rob Slade's book reviews are a regular feature in the Digest. DECUS Canada Communications, Desktop, Education and Security group newsletters Editor and/or reviewer ROBERTS@decus.ca, RSlade@sfu.ca, Rob Slade at 1:153/733 Author "Robert Slade's Guide to Computer Viruses" 0-387-94311-0/3-540-94311-0 ------------------------------ From: dpapaz@makper.the.forthnet.gr Subject: Wanted: Low-Cost Multiplexers Organization: Computer Science Department, University of Crete HELLAS Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 17:20:24 GMT Hello everybody, We are looking for low-cost Statistical Data Multiplexers that support at least following features: * 2/3/4 EIA-232 ports. Speed from 300 to 19200 baud; * One composite link. Speed at least 19200 baud. Many thanks in advance. Diamantis Papazoglou Technical Director NETConnect Dept. Macedonian Peripherals S.A. Tel. ++30-31-326190 NETConnect Department Tel. ++30-31-306800 Diamantis Papazoglou FAX. ++30-31-325841 D. Glinou 26 54249 Thessaloniki E-mail: dpapaz@makper.the.forthnet.gr GREECE CompuServe ID: 100101,1566 ------------------------------ From: dadler@ix.netcom.com (Dawn Adler) Subject: AC 303: What Number Should I Use to Get Number of This Phone? Date: 31 May 1995 07:34:17 GMT Organization: Netcom I'm moving to a Denver suburb next week, and I ordered two lines, one for personal and other is for my BBS. I need to know if USWest has a three digit code to get the number of my phone(s)? In Tampa, FL (GTE) I use 311. Thanks, Michael Adler System Adminstrator Lakewood Online (offline) [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I don't know what the readback and/or ringback codes are for that area, but it won't do you much good until you get there and are actually using the phones in question, and at that point in time I am sure the telco will have already notified you of what your new numbers will be. If you are there when the installer arrives -- if one is needed -- I'm sure he will tell you the numbers, else whatever rep you called out there will be glad to work with you on it. I suppose a Denver reader will be in touch with you soon to give you the specifics. PAT] ------------------------------ From: adt@dsi.bc.ca (Andrew Tuline) Subject: BC to Wisconsin Data Line Type? Organization: Dynapro Systems Inc. Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 14:51:09 GMT We need to exchange data between companies in Milwaukee and Vancouver. Traffic is typically: - email - a few large file transfers daily (> 10M) - IPX and IP protocols - marginal telnet traffic Function is to co-develop software between the two sites. We felt that 112K of bandwidth would probably do the trick. Suggestions were: - dedicated lines? (Hopefully not. We don't need the line up ALL the time. This is about $4K CDN/mo.) - frame relay? (Throw in a T1 local loop, and run 112K frame relay. Sounds reasonable. Users would be pissed if they didn't get close to 112K bandwidth though. Also, the company in Milwaukee doesn't seem very keen on frame relay for some reason). - Switched 56? (How about a couple of switched 56 lines? I didn't get good vibes about this from BCTel or fONOROLA. Additionally, how would you combine them?) Any comments, suggestions for a relatively inexperienced WAN type would be appreciated. ------------------------------ From: bkobb@newsignals.com (Bennett Z. Kobb) Subject: Plan to Abolish FCC Organization: New Signals Press Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 14:25:58 GMT The Progress and Freedom Foundation in Washington has released its plan to abolish the Federal Communications Commission. Highlights from the "comprehensive plan" of particular interest to wireless users: * Unless Congress acts to preserve regulations, all FCC rules and regulations will be rescinded in three years. * Immediate repeal of all FCC licensing authority. * All current FCC license holders would receive property rights in the spectrum, enforced by the trespass laws. * Deeds recorded in a central Spectrum Registry File. * Any spectrum that has more than one claimant would be auctioned within 180 days. Government would establish standardized spectrum parcels for auction. * Government agencies must "disgorge" their unused spectrum within a determined timeframe. * All restrictions on use of spectrum would be eliminated. Those who win title could develop and/or re-sell the spectrum subject to antitrust review and geographic and interference boundaries; however, legislation would not set forth interference rights in detail. * Department of Justice would confiscate any devices used in violation of communications rules. * Complaint investigation and answering of general inquiries from the public discontinued. * Spectrum above 300 GHz is infrared rather than radio. Bennett Z. Kobb bkobb@newsignals.com Editor and publisher, Spectrum Guide [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Well, I dunno ... readers please give your thoughts on this; I will run them soon. PAT] ------------------------------ From: pkim@cts.com (Philip Kim) Subject: T1/FT1 Provider in LA Area Organization: CTSNET Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 20:17:06 GMT Does anyone know of a good, inexpensive provider of T1/FT1 lines in the LA (California) area? Just wondering if PACBELL is the only, or best choice. The application is an internet site for a non-profit organization. Please email me at 'pkim@cts.com' TIA, Phil ------------------------------ From: mike@sandman.com (Mike Sandman) Subject: Re: Telco Northwestel Errs With PBX; Help Please Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 15:49:25 LOCAL Organization: InterAccess, Chicago's best Internet Service Provider Boy, what a horror story! Personally, I don't know why you would need digital phones in a hotel room, especially since they normally don't have an analog port in them to hook up a modem etc. If you are a real upscale hotel, you may want to have two extensions in each room, so that you could use a modem while being able to make and receive calls. I don't recall that anyone makes a PBX with hotel features that gives you a digital phone with an analog port, so that both can be used simultaneously (but there may be one). If you really need a new PBX (as in the old one is obsolete and no longer supported -- or you've outgrown it), you may want to have your vendor reconfigure his proposal for analog phones in the rooms -- that way you would only need the analog station card -- not the digital. Stick some nice single line feature phones with a bunch of speed dial buttons in the rooms, preferably with a data port on them. If your old PBX works fine, you may want to go out and buy 150 of those nice feature phones, and get the same results for lots less money. The people in the rooms won't have a clue of how old or how messy your PBX is. Personally, I wouldn't want to deal with a company that tried to do this to me, but you may be able to make the most of it since it sounds like your vendor is a pretty big company. In the interest of keeping up their numbers, and not causing a lot of bad feelings, they may offer you a discount to reconfigure to the above scenario (which should cost a little less than the digital phones/cards anyway). Salespeople seldom change their spots, so your vendor probably won't be surprised about what your salesperson pulled. If your old system works OK for now, there's nothing to push you into accepting anything other than exactly what you want. If it takes them six months to resolve the situation -- make the best of it! Many companies figure that they'll install the system, get their sales numbers and deal with suing you later. I wouldn't let them do that if I were you. Also, if you're leasing the system, don't sign the acceptance (or anything that remotely looks like an acceptance), until you're happy as hell. Once you sign an acceptance, the leasing company has a perfect right to bill you and sue you. If you don't sign it, they usually won't pay the vendor anything -- and will never start billing you. You can't plug any kind of single line phone into a port designed for a digital phone. You may be able to kludge an adapter, or get a gizmo that lets you hook up a single line device through the handset port (a nice one is available through Vive Synergies in Canada). In a hotel, it would be very difficult to keep track of these external devices. Either the single line device, or less often the digital station port on the PBX could be damaged if you plug the single line into the digital jack. You'll really hate yourself in the morning if you go for some half-assed solution! Good luck, Mike ------------------------------ From: fgoldstein@bbn.com (Fred R. Goldstein) Subject: Re: Telco Northwestel Errs With PBX; Help Please Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 16:57:01 LOCAL Organization: Bolt Beranek & Newman Inc. In article Ian Gamble writes: > Northwestel, the telco for northern Canada, has nearly completed the > installation of a Northern Telecom Meridian 1 Option 11E PBX for the > hotel where I work. The Meridian 1 is a nice switch. It can take analog, proprietary- digital, and ISDN extensions. Each uses a different line card, and of course the phone sets are different. > There will be about 150 new telephones installed, all digital. The > system was represented by the salesperson as being compatible with > analog devices. The intent was to have a modern, and upgradeable, > system to serve the needs of business travellers. Particularly, each > room was to have the capacity to support fax and modem use by guests. Somebody blew it Big Time! You NEVER use digital extensions for things like fax and modems! Those devices are built to work with analog lines ONLY. (There are "ISDN modems" and even a nice IBM PCMCIA ISDN card but it's new and not yet common.) I've never stayed at a hotel with digital room phones. The norm nowadays is an analog phone with a secondary jack on the side and a message waiting light (good old 90v neon). > I understand that there are risks to analog equipment if it is connected > to the PBX due to the higher voltage, and the PBX itself can be harmed > if modems or fax machines are hooked up. Is this true? "Risk" is not the right word. You are guaranteed 100% that an analog modem, fax or other device will NOT work on a digital line! It may harm the modem, but is unlikely to harm the PBX, because most analog devices do not generate power, but expect power from the analog line. Note that it will not always harm the modem, but you don't want to risk liability ... > Are there any analog to digital converters available that can be > installed to permit this use on the PBX? Where can they be purchased? For a proprietary-digital interface, no. That's likely what you have. For an ISDN interface, there are terminal adapters like the Adak that have analog outputs. I doubt you have ISDN extensions, though. PBX vendors prefer proprietary, since they can run on one pair, are cheap, and lock the customer in to that brand of PBX (when upgrade time comes). > What should be done about the representation by the salesperson that the > system would be suitable "out-of-the-box" for this purpose? Pat's advice is good. Check your contract. Check your lawyer. Fred R. Goldstein k1io fgoldstein@bbn.com Bolt Beranek & Newman Inc., Cambridge MA USA +1 617 873 3850 Opinions are mine alone; sharing requires permission. [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: My original advice was to make no further payments -- if any had been made -- on this mess. It sounds like it might be quite expensive to repair the problem. I suggested the writer could sue the company to force the corrections needed, but he would have to sue them in their jurisdiction most likely. He would be better off letting them sue him for the balance due, since the company would have to come to his location to do that, and once they sue for the remainder due then the hotel can countersue without having to make a trip out of town to wherever the company is located. But the other person responding in this thread today says waiting to get sued is not a good idea. I don't see why not; even if its a third party leasing company handling the paper which claims it has already made the payout, a lot of courts won't give any credence to 'holder in due course' arguments. I certainly agree with Fred that the hotel should seek legal counsel on this as soon as possible if anything has been signed or the work has commenced. Otherwise, sign *nothing* and the next time a representative from the company shows up have your security staff show him the door and how to open it going outward. PAT] ------------------------------ From: rparkins@Direct.CA (Richard Parkinson) Subject: Re: Is it Northern or Nortel? Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 19:41:25 -0800 Organization: Infotel Systems Corp. In article , hfenn@mathworks.com (Holly Fenn) wrote: > I purchased a Northern 61C Meridian system loaded with Meridian mail, > IVR, CCR, ACD, Meridian MAX, and Meridian Link. For six months I have > had the worst service and support through Nortel. Has anyone else had > the same problem? I came from a 12 year ROLM background so I have > nothing to compare this too. I can't figure out if my frustration > lies within Nortel's organization, or if Northern just isn't the > technological giant it markets itself to be? > Any feedback and/or recommendations on an alternative service provider > would be greatly appreciated. My understanding is that Nortel is the new name for Northern Telecom, thus they are one and the same companies. Are you dealing with Northern directly, or is in fact your maintainer a distributor? If the latter, you should put the heat on Northern. If the former complain to the Richardson, Texas headquarters. Regards Richard ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 20:14:38 -0700 From: lincmad@netcom.com (Linc Madison) Subject: Re: Algorithm For Parsing Phone Numbers Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) In article kwbrown@panix.com (Kate Weber Brown at Bank of Bermuda) wrote: : Is there anyone who can send me an algorithm for taking apart a string : of numbers and working out which digits are area code or country code, : etc.? I'm trying to build an application which bills fax calls from : the log ... Well, yes and no. The format of an international number is: (dialing prefix) -- depends on country of origin; e.g., 011, 00, etc. (country code) -- 1, 2, or 3 digits (city code) -- 0 to 6 digits (local number) -- 1 to 8 digits The maximum total number of digits in the last three segments is 12, but is scheduled to increase to 15 digits in the not-too-distant future. There are other rules which can be invoked when the country code has been parsed; for example, numbers in Denmark are always the two-digit country code, no city code, and an 8-digit local number. In the U.S., Canada, and other parts of World Zone 1, the location can be fairly precisely specified by the country code (1), city code (3-digit area code) and prefix (first 3 digits of the local number). However, for billing for fax calls, you probably only need to account for parsing the country code. Look at the first three digits after the international dialing prefix and you're home. You can invoke more detailed rules for domestic calls, to whatever extent your costs vary by location. Linc Madison * San Francisco, California * LincMad@Netcom.com ------------------------------ From: fybush@world.std.com (Scott D Fybush) Subject: Re: California's New Area Code: 760 Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 04:40:50 GMT So we can now add the new "760" area to the very exclusive list of areas that will have had three different area codes since 1980. As best I can figure it, the others are: 847 and 630 - Illinois - were 312, now 708, splitting again 562 - California - areas that were 213, now 310, splitting again ... and that's pretty much it, I think. The 760 area was, of course, part of 714 until that code split in half in 1982, with San Bernardino, Riverside, and Orange counties getting 714, and the rest going 619. (SB and Riverside later split themselves, to 909). Scott Fybush - fybush@world.std.com (and a former resident of the future 760-872, Bishop CA) ------------------------------ From: haynes@cats.ucsc.edu (James H. Haynes) Subject: Re: Telecom History Date: 30 May 1995 21:31:30 GMT Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz In article , Greg Schumacher wrote: > Last weekend I was at a yardsale and while poking through the piles of > books found one titled "Principles of Electricity applied to Telephone > and Telegraph Work 1953 Edition". Scanning through it briefly, I found > some intresting photos and diagrams of cross bar and step by step > switches. And at $1 it was a deal I could not pass up. Great book. I cut my teeth on that one, after having been loaned the 1938 edition by the local wire chief. > My question is this: The frontispiece is a photo of a statue labeled > "Spirit of Communication". The statue is a winged nude male in the Here's some info from George Oslin's book. There is a picture of the statue, with the caption "The Genius of Electricity (later renamed the Spirit of Communication) was a familiar figure on the New York skyline. Then a reference to another picture of the building at 195 Broadway, NYC, with the caption "Western Union headquarters building, 195 Broadway, New York. The gold-winged figure at the peak of the tower is "Genius of Electricity", erected October 24, 1916, the 55th anniversary of the completion of the first transcontinental telegraph. When W.U. sold its half ownership of the building to AT&T, AT&T renamed it the "Spirit of Communications". Then there is some text: "Western Union invited sculptor Evelyn Beatrice Longman to design a statue symbolizing the Genius of Electricity to top the Fulton Street tower on its 195 Broadway headquarters, built in 1875. The result was a twenty four foot high bronze statue of a man with a twelve foot wing span, standing on a large globe. One arm held cables; the other hand, held high, grasped darting lightning bolts, representing electrity that powers telecommunications. The statue was erected on October 24, 1916, the fifty-fifth anniversary of the first transcontinental telegraph line. "In 1930, Western Union sold its interest in the building to AT&T, which rechristened the statue the Spirit of Communications, gilded it with more than 12,500 pieces of gold leaf, and called it 'Golden Boy'. In 1980 AT&T moved the statue to its new headquarters at 550 Madison Avenue. For sixty-four years at 195 Broadway the statue was the second largest sculpture in New York, higher than the 151-foot Statue of Liberty, and a familiar sight to millions." The book I'm quoting from is "The Story of Telecommunications" ISBN 0-86554-418-2, by George P. Oslin, (age 93) the former public relations director for Western Union, published by Mercer University Press. I'll say the book is a mess, especially toward the end; but I'm glad the old man took the time to write it. It could have used a lot better editing -- but then the publisher mostly publishes religious books so probably lacks an editor qualified for this topic. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 10:08:01 -0400 From: rmuderick@attmail.com (Robert B Muderick) Subject: Re: Telecom History > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: It was -- still is? -- at the AT&T > Building on Broadway in lower Manhattan. A picture of that statue > was also the standard back cover of Bell System telephone directories > for many years, and quite a few business offices, including the one > in downtown Chicago had replicas of it. The phone books always had > that statue on the cover somewhere, along with the little circle and > the words 'American Telephone and Telegraph and Associated Companies' > in the circle. I guess they quit using the statue about 1960. PAT] The winged statue called "Spirit of Communication" or "Golden Boy" was moved at some point to atop the building at 550 Madison Avenue, also in New York City. But a couple years ago when AT&T leased the building at 500 Madison to Sony, the statue was moved to a pedestal in front of corporate headquarters in Basking Ridge, NJ. (I get to see it every day out the window). As part of the latest move it was given a much needed restoration. Here is the description given to visitors in Basking Ridge: (The location has not been updated) ... "The Spirit of Communication" or "Golden Boy" was created by Evelyn Beatrice Longman and has stood in New York since 1916. Mrs. Longman's design was selected by the president of AT&T at that time, Theodore N. Vail; the architect of the old AT&T headquarters building in lower Manhattan, William Welles Rosworth; and noted American sculptor Daniel Chester French after a nationwide competition in 1914 to develop an AT&T corporate symbol. Some of Golden Boy's statistics: Height of Bronze Figure : 24 Feet Granite Base : 21 Feet Weight : 32,000 pounds Wing Span : 23 Feet Gilding : 23 Karat Gold Bob Muderick rmuderick@attmail.com ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #264 ****************************** Received: from delta.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa08669; 1 Jun 95 4:21 EDT Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA04663 for telecomlist-outbound; Wed, 31 May 1995 21:05:21 -0500 Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA04654; Wed, 31 May 1995 21:05:18 -0500 Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 21:05:18 -0500 From: TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson) Message-Id: <199506010205.VAA04654@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #265 TELECOM Digest Wed, 31 May 95 21:05:00 CDT Volume 15 : Issue 265 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Book Review: "Being Digital" by Nicholas Negroponte (Laasri Hassan) Re: Book Review: "UNIX Communications and the Internet" (Pat Fogarty) Re: Telephone 'Call Back' Services (Bert Kooi) Re: Dime Line Anyone? (David Kammeyer) Re: Need One Mile PC Communications (David Kammeyer) Re: Auction All the Spectrum (Michael J. Kuras) Re: I Just Bought a CT2 Phone and I Love It (Eric Tholome) Re: I Just Bought a CT2 Phone and I Love It (Kimmo Ketolainen) Re: Need One Mile PC Communications (Vince Muehe) Re: Is it Northern or Nortel? (Allan Bourque) Troubles Retrieving Voice Mail in NYC (Sven Dietrich) Re: How to Make a Long Distance Call in 1942 (Pete Farmer) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of public service systems and networks including Compuserve and America On Line. It is also gatewayed to Usenet where it appears as the moderated newsgroup 'comp.dcom.telecom'. Subscriptions are available to qualified organizations and individual readers. Write and tell us how you qualify: * telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu * The Digest is edited, published and compilation-copyrighted by Patrick Townson of Skokie, Illinois USA. You can reach us by postal mail, fax or phone at: 9457-D Niles Center Road Skokie, IL USA 60076 Phone: 500-677-1616 Fax: 708-329-0572 ** Article submission address only: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu ** Our archives are located at lcs.mit.edu and are available by using anonymous ftp. The archives can also be accessed using our email information service. 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Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LAASRI Hassan Subject: Book Review: "Being Digital" by Nicholas Negroponte Date: 31 May 1995 09:01:25 GMT Organization: Alcatel CIT Le Pecq, France Since 1993 through the present time, I have been searching for books which present the upcoming information superhighways. Unfortunately, all the papers and magazines were repeatedly chattering about the same topics. A lot of them present rather policital views with no precise action plans. Others present some telecom technologies as the milestone of the information superhighway building, i.e., ATM, SDH, ASDL, etc. Of course, VOD is still the hot stuff that every one is talking about. Thus, I was always frustrated after reading and reading the same thing written many different ways. That was before I read Being Digital, Nicholas Negroponte's last book on the future of digital products and services. First of all, the book is a good starting point for many directions, be it technical, economical, or social. Its reading is really funny: I read it in less than a week, though I have done so only at home after a full day of work. As an ex-researcher in Artificial Intelligence and presently engineer in the telecommunications industry, I focused my attention on the technical aspects of the book. I also found that I learned many new things from a social and commercial point of view. It provides a deep analysis of the current status of multimedia (Negroponte simply identifies it as the melding of bits) and where more work needs to be done. In particular, the book shows where the present R&D in HDTV IS now and where it SHOULD be. From my point of view, this part of the book is the most important if not the major one. I highly recommend its reading to all those working on services such as visual browsing, information searching. Negroponte suggests that such services should be based on what he calls the bits-on-bits (information on the content of a digital stuff). I also appreciated the interface part. It shows where AI in general and intelligent agents can have an industrial come-back and play a terrific role. Instead of searching, just program your interface agents and it's up to them to do the work based on your centers of interest. I highly recommand the reading of this part to those reseachers looking for challanging but not toy problems for their AI models and systems. I'm really sure that AI may help in the future of the Internet surfing. The only thing which I found missing in this book is the refernces of the research going on in institutions (e.g., MIT Media Lab). This will help "thirsty" readers, like me, to follow where their developments will lead us. Finally, I will end my review by asking Negroponte "When will Volume II be ready?" Dr. Hassan LAASRI Alcatel CIT 3, Parc des Grillons 60, Route de Sartrouville 78230 Le Pecq - France Phone: + 33 1 34 80 79 33/Fax: + 33 1 34 80 79 47 Alcanet Code: 2 117, Internet: laasri@cett.alcatel-alsthom.fr ------------------------------ From: puff@mercury.interpath.net (Pat Fogarty) Subject: Re: Book Review: "UNIX Communications and the Internet" by Anderson Date: 31 May 1995 09:50:09 -0400 Organization: Interpath -- Public Access UNIX for North Carolina I found the second edition of this book to be quite useful. Since almost nothing changed for the third edition, it's still useful, but somewhat out of date. For instance, there are still full chapters on rn and vnews, but tin? trn? Naaaaaaah ... The appendix on transfer protocols still thinks xmodem and kermit is all there is. (One could argue that Kermit _is_ all there is). I didn't buy it. Go to remainder sales and look for the second edition instead. Pat ------------------------------ From: 72763.1306@compuserve.com (Bert Kooi) Subject: Re: Telephone 'Call Back' Services Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 11:45:03 GMT Organization: Kooi Info Services Reply-To: Bert.Kooi@worldxs.worldaccess.nl sknopoff@chomsky.arts.adelaide.edu.au (Steven Knopoff) wrote: > I have two related questions I hope someone might answer: > First, does anyone know of a phone company that offers cheap rates (e.g. > under .50/minute) between the U.S. and Australia? Yes, the USA Callback company MTC Passport. Their rate is US$0.29 p/min. from Australia to the USA. > And second, can anyone here familiar with these 'call back' long > distance services (some of which claim to offer U.S./Australia rates as > low as .30/minute) explain why these companies' sales/customer service > operations are run in such unprofessional manners? I have looked into > three of these services (including MTC Passport) but have hesitated to > proceed because their own sales phone numbers keep changing (at least > here in Adelaide they do) and/or because the people answering the phone > act as if they are somehow unauthorized or unwilling to answer questions > about the service, or they say they will call back with the answer to a > question but do not call back. At one point I started to think that this > type of business might not be legal, but I checked with the Australian > telecommunications ombudsman and Australian Trade Practices Commission, > both of whom say that 'call back' services are perfectly legal (though > they had no further information about them). Why, for example, don't > these companies advertise in the phone book or newspapers like any other > telephone-related business? Although I'm in the callback business maybe would like some experience from the other side of the globe: I'm a MTC Passport representative in The Netherlands for over one year now with about 60 happy clients. Why are my clients happy? Because the rates of our Dutch PTT are about twice the rates of MTC Passport to most countries. My clients call the USA, Australia, Israel, Netherlands Antilles, Aruba, South Africa, Iran, Singapore, Hong Kong, etc. MTC Passport is located in the USA and they are offering a product to customers all over the world. You can imagine this would be very expensive to have offices all over the world. I guess that is why they contract (small) local agents like me in The Netherlands who give rate information and sign up forms to customers who are interested in low international telephone rates. If you have any further questions you can email me at: 72763.1306@compuserve.com BTW: I also have a client in Australia who seems happy with the Passport service. Bert Kooi Kooi Info Services Schanshoek 75 1188 LL Amstelveen The Netherlands tel +31-20-640-4072 fax +31-20-640-4316 email 72763.1306@compuserve.com ------------------------------ From: David Kammeyer Subject: Re: Dime Line Anyone? Date: 31 May 1995 04:17:30 GMT celestin@celestin.com (Paul Celestin) wrote: > I just got a mailing the other day from a company called VarTec Telecom, > Inc. that states you can get 10 cents a minute long distance service > anytime, anywhere in the continental U.S. Only catch is a $5 monthly > service charge for residential lines, even if you use it just once. I > think the service charge for business lines is $15. Stay away from Vartec! I signed up with them, when their promotion was "get every tenth call for one cent. I compared the probabilities and such, and they looked to be the best deal I could find. I switched all seven lines in my house to them (I used to run a BBS). Anyway, a few months later I decided to switch to MCI. I had them switch all my lines. After a few days, I checked my lines by dialing 00 and asked the operator what company they were. They all were MCI. About two days later I needed a long distance operator for something or other and I got the VarTec operator. I was puzzled at this, and it seems that five of my lines had mysteriously been switched over to Vartec. I then called MCI, explained my situation and they switched the lines again to MCI. They were switched over to MCI, and after two days, they went back to Vartec. After this, I called Vartec and asked to talk to a supervisor, and threatened legal action. I then called Ameritech and told them not to let Vartec switch it again. Anyway, Vartec caused me a lot of trouble switching the lines and getting back the switchover fee. As a side note, the MCI rep said that Vartec is notorious for this. I'd be very careful when dealing with these folks. ------------------------------ From: David Kammeyer Subject: Re: Need One Mile PC Communications Date: 29 May 1995 04:37:03 GMT rconstan@gate.net (RC) wrote: > We're using reachout between two PCs, but the nominal 9600-28K baud > rates available between the machines is not quite fast enough for the > customers needs. However, the machines are one mile apart, and the > customer is willing to string his own wire if necessary to gain > thruput. Unfortunately, high speed phone lines are simply not > available in this area. But it seems to me that a mile is not too far > fetched for the right kind of direct connection. If anyone is > familliar enough with the possible off the shelf solutions, please > email me. This sounds like a perfect application for Spread-Spectrum radio. I know Black Box sells stuff for this. Basically you just put an antenna on each building, and you get 2mbps, no FCC licensing. Furthermore, you can get a data compression box on each end and get about 3.5mbps out of it. That should be more than enough speed considering that's 1/3 of ethernet. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 17:40:18 -0400 From: mkuras@ccs.neu.edu (Michael J Kuras) Subject: Re: Auction All the Spectrum Organization: College of Computer Science, Northeastern University khh@access4.digex.net wrote: > Here's how Congress can raise $10 billion a year and cut government > at the same time.... > Economists have known for years that the best way to manage the > airwaves is to sell them off in orderly parcels, and then let the > market decide how best to use them. Recently, however, economists have > been putting numbers to this argument. The numbers are stunning.... I found this related article in the WSJ: SPECTRUM AUCTION PLANS MAY ACCELERATE House Republicans are considering a Congressional Budget Office recommendation to auction television broadcasters' existing analog channel spectrum seven years from now as part of a plan to balance the budget by 2002. By that time, they hope that most broadcasters will have moved over to new digital-broadcasting channels. Current FCC plans provide broadcasters the new digital channels for free, allow them to use both digital and analog channels for 15 years, after which time the analog channel spectrum will be returned to the government. Speeding the auction process up, although onerous to the broadcasting community, would still be less drastic than another suggested alternative, which would force broadcasters to pay billions for the digital channels in the first place. (Wall Street Journal 5/24/95 B8) michael j kuras www.ccs.neu.edu/~mkuras mkuras@ccs.neu.edu [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Interested readers are also referred to the issue of the Digest just before this one (#264) and another writer who flatly says 'abolish the FCC'. I'd appreciate your thoughts. PAT] ------------------------------ From: tholome@dialup.francenet.fr (Eric Tholome) Subject: Re: I Just Bought a CT2 Phone and I Love It Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 20:24:45 +0200 My article about my new CT2 phone generated quite a few messages in my mailbox from various people asking various questions. Since this seems of some interest for DIGEST readers, I thought I'd take the time to answer them here for the benefit of us all. What is CT2? CT2 is a standard for cordless phones. It is digital and operates in the 900 MHz range. Anyone cares to give more details? What CT2 handset do I own? It is sold by France Telecom, holds the "SAGEM" sticker (a French Telecom company), but is in fact a Motorola Silverlink 2000 product. It is sold $200 in France (this may sound expensive, but remember that all telecom products and services are a lot more expensive in France and Europe than in the USA). What CT2 Private Base do I own? A Motorola Silverlink 3020. It is sold $380 in France. What is Bi-Bop? Bi-Bop is the commercial name of the telepoint service offered by France Telecom which let's you use your CT2 handset in the street. This service is available in and around Paris, in Strasbourg and Lille. France Telecom did install many base stations (several thousands). Actually, there are so many that I don't bother looking at the map they gave me when I intend to use my phone in the street: I simply count on getting the dial tone, and most of the time, it works! Bi-Bop lets me call any number, as long as I'm within the coverage area. Bi-Bop also lets me receive phone calls (this is optional). Because receiving calls is not straightforward (there is no automatic location updating), incoming calls will, most of the time, hit my voice mail. Every time I try to use my phone, I'm notified if someone left a message and I can retrieve it very easily. In one word, Bi-Bop is definitely neither as convenient nor as powerful as a real cellular phone, but the latter are still a lot more expensive than Bi-Bop, which explains why Bi-Bop has gained some popularity here (there are around 80,000 Bi-Bop subscribers I believe). How much does Bi-Bop cost? Currently, I pay $10/month to subscribe to Bi-Bop, and all my calls (outgoing AND incoming) cost me $0.20/min extra. I also pay $6/month to enable incoming phone calls and have a voice mailbox. A new plan was recently introduced: the extra cost for communications is $0.35/min, but there is no monthly fee. This is obviously targetting occasional users (like me!). Are there other telepoint services anywhere? Hong kong has a big CT2 public network. The Netherlands has quite a big CT2 public network ("Greenpoint"). England had four but they are not operational anymore. Germany had plans to start one but gave it up. A private operator is about to open another CT2 public network in Bordeaux, France. Anyone has more info about these networks, or others? Some roaming agreements were signed, at least between Bi-Bop and Greenpoint. That's it for today! Eric Tholome 23, avenue du Centre tholome@dialup.francenet.fr 78180 Montigny le Bretonneux phone: +33 1 30 48 06 47 France fax: same number, call first! ------------------------------ From: Kimmo.Ketolainen@utu.fi (Kimmo Ketolainen +358 40 500 2957) Subject: Re: I Just Bought a CT2 Phone and I Love It Organization: University of Turku Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 21:03:41 GMT janjoris@win.tue.nl (Jan Joris Vereijken) wrote: > By the way, the U.K. used to have *four* (correct me if I'm wrong) > CT2 networks, but all have stopped operations. Damn!=20 CT2 would have been a financial suicide in many countries -- here in Finland, DECT has taken its place in local area networks, and GSM in national and international level (~700 000 subscribers in the population of 5.1 million). CT2 (known as _Pointer_) was aborted shortly after its introduction as technically and commercially unsound. I would suggest GSM for you too if only the cost of use in France was decent. I have compiled a short listing of European digital cellular networks' rates. The listing has at the moment only prices from Finland, Sweden and UK. I would appreciate all information from the other countries using GSM or DCS180 Kimmo.Ketolainen@utu.fi Studentbyn 84 A 10 =B7 FIN-20540 =C5bo =B7 Finland = ------------------------------ From: Vince Muehe Subject: Re: Need One Mile PC Communications Date: 31 May 1995 16:04:39 GMT Organization: Primenet rconstan@gate.net (RC) wrote: > We're using reachout between two PCs, but the nominal 9600-28K baud > rates available between the machines is not quite fast enough for the > customers needs. However, the machines are one mile apart, and the > customer is willing to string his own wire if necessary to gain > thruput. Unfortunately, high speed phone lines are simply not > available in this area. But it seems to me that a mile is not too far > fetched for the right kind of direct connection. If anyone is > familliar enough with the possible off the shelf solutions, please > email me. You may want to look into wireless to connect the sites. One possible solution is to use SOLECTEK's AIRLAN that will connect sites up to three miles at 2Mb/s (vs your current 28.8Kb/s. You can reach them at 800-437-1518, ext. 3900. (I have not used this product and do not vouch for the effectiveness of providing a solution). Vince Muehe ------------------------------ From: a10271@email.mot.com (Allan Bourque) Subject: Re: Is it Northern or Nortel? Organization: Motorola Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 17:52:42 GMT hfenn@mathworks.com (Holly Fenn) wrote: > I purchased a Northern 61C Meridian system loaded with Meridian mail, > IVR, CCR, ACD, Meridian MAX, and Meridian Link. For six months I have > had the worst service and support through Nortel. Has anyone else had > the same problem? I came from a 12 year ROLM background so I have > nothing to compare this too. I can't figure out if my frustration > lies within Nortel's organization, or if Northern just isn't the > technological giant it markets itself to be? Nortel/Northern are now the same company. Northern has had a history of bad customer support. In fact, during most of the late 80's, they did not even deal directly with users, only the distributors. > Any feedback and/or recommendations on an alternative service provider > would be greatly appreciated. Try Wiltel. They have an excellent TAC center and I have had fairly good luck with them. Regards, Allan Bourque a10271@email.mot.com ------------------------------ From: Sven Dietrich Subject: Troubles Retrieving Voice Mail in NYC Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 21:39:33 EDT Just wanted to share my troubles of retrieving my voice mail from a public pay phone in NYC: I went up to a NYNEX pay phone with the keys even with the covering metal plate and called the main number for my voice mail via 10288-0-516-877-xxxx *bong* . After entering the mailbox number and the * key, the phone hangs up on me. Hmm. So I repeat the process. Same thing. Then I tried 1-800-321-0ATT *bong* 516-877-xxxx *bong* . This time I got to enter my mailbox number, * key and passcode, then a disconnect. So I tried a different phone (same style phone though). Same thing. Coin call. Same thing. Frustration builds as I know by now that I *do* have messages but get disconnected before I can retrieve them. I finally walked up to a NYNEX phone with *raised* keys and did not have any problems via calling card. This all happened within two blocks of 6th Ave and 10th Street. Anyone have a clue what went on here? Sven Dietrich -- A/UX SysAdmin | Internet: spock@abraxas.adelphi.edu (MIME) Faculty Support Lab | Voice: +1-516-877-3332 | PGP key via Adelphi University, New York | Fax: +1-516-877-3347 | finger & server [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: It sounds like the '*' key on those phones forces a disconnect doesn't it? PAT] ------------------------------ From: pete@tetherless.com (Pete Farmer) Subject: Re: How to Make a Long Distance Call in 1942 Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 16:09:46 -0700 Organization: Tetherless Access Ltd. > The operator's switchboard had two buttons on it marked 'return' and > 'collect' and by pressing one button or the other, the money would > fall in the box or the table would tip in the other direction and dump > the coins back out to the caller. A manager I had worked with at Bell Atlantic had once been put into service as a PSTS operator in Norfolk, VA, during a strike, and handled calls from coin telephones. Unfortunately, the training she got for the position was less than adequate and -- you guessed it -- for her first full day on the post, she hit the wrong button *every time* she handled a call. Everyone who completed a call got money back, and everyone who failed had their money taken. Nothing like getting the public interested in a quick settlement! Peter J. Farmer Internet: pete@tetherless.com Tetherless Access Ltd. Voice: 415-843-6880 ext.16 2468 Embarcadero Way Fax: 415-843-6890 Palo Alto, CA 94303 WWW: http://www.tetherless.net/ [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: In days of old ... when coin phones had three slots on the top for money (25/10/5) and coin return slots without the trap door on the front as they have had now for many years, customers used to retrieve their own coins from the collection table in the phone, sometimes even to reuse the same coins for the 'additional deposit' the operator was demanding. The old payphones just had a little cup down at the bottom where the coins fell into it when you got your money back, and less than honorable people knew you could take something like a coat hanger or any piece of stiff wire bent the correct way and stick it up the chute where the coins fell out. Carefully probing with your stiff piece of wire up the chute, when you reached the table in there, the object was to cause it to tip in your favor so the coins would tumble out before the operator got around to tipping it in her favor. For local calls it was no problem since the money was simply held on the table until the call was finished at which point the coin would dump in the box. So in the middle of your call, you stalled for time with the person you were talking to while you got your probe up there and tip the table enough to get the coin back. On a long distance call -- or any call where an operator was on the line supervising the collection, care had to be taken to not get her wise to what was going on. Let's say the long distance call cost $2.00. For domestic calls -- the norm -- where the table could hold the entire payment, it would stay there until it was all put in and your party answered, just in case the operator had to give it badk (person to person and the called party not available, etc.) So you would put four quarters in, and pause ... start working on the table with that little wire stuck up the chute. Meanwhile the operator was demanding more money, "another dollar please!" ... you'd say, "just a minute operator! I am looking for more change ... ' ... you would get the coins back you started with, and give them all to the operator a second time. Yeah right, looking for more change ... If the operator suspected hanky-panky or thievery of some kind, she would hit that collect key in a hurry and dump all the coins in the box before you could get them back out ... and the long time operators recognized the voices of the children who were the main perpetrators of the fraud. I got suspended from junior high school for two days when the cafeteria supervisor at school caught me teaching a couple other boys how to do it. The cafeteria pay phone was on a completely manual exchange; a five cent coin got you an operator who asked 'number please?' and the idea was to liberate that nickle from the innards of the phone before the operator got around to collecting it when your call was finished. PAT] ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #265 ****************************** Received: from delta.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa19073; 2 Jun 95 2:01 EDT Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA11680 for telecomlist-outbound; Thu, 1 Jun 1995 20:41:00 -0500 Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA11669; Thu, 1 Jun 1995 20:40:57 -0500 Date: Thu, 1 Jun 1995 20:40:57 -0500 From: TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson) Message-Id: <199506020140.UAA11669@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #266 TELECOM Digest Thu, 1 Jun 95 20:40:00 CDT Volume 15 : Issue 266 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson ISLIP'95 a Success (Bill Wadge via R. Jagannathan) South American TE (Modem) Approvals (profgmby@cybercom.com) Re: ALI From Centrex With Many Locations (Paul Cook) Re: Troubles Retrieving Voice Mail in NYC (Bradley Ward Allen) Re: Troubles Retrieving Voice Mail in NYC (Steve Kass) Oppose Mandatory Touch-Tone $ervice - Your Action Needed (Anthony Wallis) Long-Distance Carriers and LEC's (Joseph Norton) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of public service systems and networks including Compuserve and America On Line. It is also gatewayed to Usenet where it appears as the moderated newsgroup 'comp.dcom.telecom'. Subscriptions are available to qualified organizations and individual readers. Write and tell us how you qualify: * telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu * The Digest is edited, published and compilation-copyrighted by Patrick Townson of Skokie, Illinois USA. You can reach us by postal mail, fax or phone at: 9457-D Niles Center Road Skokie, IL USA 60076 Phone: 500-677-1616 Fax: 708-329-0572 ** Article submission address only: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu ** Our archives are located at lcs.mit.edu and are available by using anonymous ftp. The archives can also be accessed using our email information service. For a copy of a helpful file explaining how to use the information service, just ask. ************************************************************************* * TELECOM Digest is partially funded by a grant from the * * International Telecommunication Union (ITU) in Geneva, Switzerland * * under the aegis of its Telecom Information Exchange Services (TIES) * * project. Views expressed herein should not be construed as represent-* * ing views of the ITU. * ************************************************************************* Additionally, the Digest is funded by gifts from generous readers such as yourself who provide funding in amounts deemed appropriate. Your help is important and appreciated. A suggested donation of twenty dollars per year per reader is considered appropriate. See our address above. All opinions expressed herein are deemed to be those of the author. Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: R. Jagannathan Reply-To: Subject: ISLIP95 a Success Date: Thu, 01 Jun 1995 12:00:00 GMT Bill Wadge is the editor of an electronic newsletter of Intensional Programming, called Field and Stream (F&S). I am attaching his latest issue regarding ISLIP 95. (If you want to subsribe, contact Bill at wadge@csr.uvic.ca or see http://lucy.uvic.ca. -Jaggan --------------- Date: Tue, 23 May 95 15:56:09 PDT From: wwadge@csr.uvic.ca (Bill Wadge) Subject: F&S: ISLIP95 a Success Sorry you haven't got a Field & Stream for a while but things got hectic with finals and preparing for ISLIP 95 all coinciding. Anyway I just got back from Australia and I'm pleased to say that ISLIP95 was a real success. (ISLIP is the annual Lucid/Intensional programming conference, held this year at Macquarie University in Sydney Australia, 3-5 May). Obviously not everyone from N. America was able to attend and there was some concern. However, the concerns proved groundless. It was one of the most successful ISLIPs ever, whether in terms of attendance, variety of topics, quality of presentations, and geographical diversity. There were authors/presenters from: AUSTRALIA/NZ: Griffith University, University of Adelaide, University of Queensland, Macquarie University, Australian National University, University of Canberra, University of Canterbury (New Zealand), SINGAPORE: Nanyang Technological University JAPAN: Teikyo Heisei University, Shimane University EUROPE Verimag (France), IRSIP/CNR (Italy), N AMERICA University of Laval, University of Victoria (Canada), SRI, Arizona State, Notre Dame (US), Topics included - Dataflow/Parallelism, - Intensional logic programming (modal, temporal), - Real time/ reactive systems, - Higher order functions, - Program verification, - Versions - Object-oriented programming - The Web Mehmet Orgun (Macquarie) did an great organizing ISLIP95, There was general agreement that the three day format made it easier to take in. Also, everyone appreciated the informative "Introduction to Intensional Programming" (by John Plaice) which opened the Symposium. We were all grateful to Macquarie University and the MPCE department who supported the Symposium with excellent facilities, high quality contributions, and incisive comments and questions from the floor. Finally, let me give a plug for Sydney Australia - a cosmopolitan city in a spectacularly beautiful setting. With great restaurants; my own favorite being the Erciyes Turkish restaurant on Cleveland St in Surrey Hills. (Disclaimer: I have received no considerations for this endorsement, though I wouldn't say "no" to a nice Iskender Kebab ... :-) In the next F & S I'll discuss some of the technical highlights. ------------------------------ From: Swenson the Hardware Helper Subject: South American TE (Modem) Approvals Date: 2 Jun 1995 01:17:34 GMT If anyone can provide me with or point me to sources of information concerning the safety/PTT approvals process in South America I would greatly appreciate it. I am specifically interested in Brazillian regulatory approvals to sell a modem-type device. Thanks-a-lot. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Jun 95 11:30 EST From: Proctor & Associates <0003991080@mcimail.com> Subject: Re: ALI From Centrex With Many Locations steegman@tomcindy.rotterdam.ny.us (Tom Steegmann) writes: > I work for Schenectady County, NY E911, and we are having a problem > with some of the larger centrex operations (including the one for our > county office building). The problem is that the ALI information > coming from any of the trunks is undependable. The county government > is based at 620 State St, but has offices in at least seven other > buildings all on 388-xxxx. According to NYNEX, it is actually a > centrex sitting on top of a PBX, if that helps. The PBX can be the solution to your problem. PAT writes: > In the case of a PBX where all the trunks are at one place, and users > at an OPX (off-premise extension) dial 9 to get an outside line, then > everyone is going to show up at the address where the switchboard is > physically located, since usually when the telco central office responds > to the PBX trunk it has no idea which user the PBX is dealing with. > Maybe some readers with E911 experience will write in to tell how they > deal with oddities such as you describe. Proctor & Associates makes a product that solves this problem with 911 calls from PBXs. It is called PBX ANI, and here is how it works: Our product connects to your PBX, and all 911 calls are routed via our box, instead of going through your regular PBX trunks. We generate your own dedicated 911 trunks that go to the answering point, and we also generate the ANI in standard format, just like a regular 911 or TSPS trunk. At the other end (the Public Safety Answering Point, or PSAP) our dedicated trunks hook up to the PSAP equipment just like any other 911 trunk. With 911 calls, the ANI is sent from the originating CO in a 7 digit MF format. The number is matched with a location using an ALI (Automatic Location Identification) database at the PSAP end. With PBX ANI, you supply the location information for your PBX extensions to the folks who administer the ALI database so that all of the extensions in your system show up with a real location. In the case where you do not have DID (Direct Inward Dial, where each PBX extension has its own 7 digit phone number) you work with the local telco to assign phony, non-dialable 7 digit numbers to each extension which are just used for ANI signaling and ALI database purposes. The reason we use dedicated trunks for this is that there is no way to send ALI or changed ANI information over a regular POTS line or PBX trunk on top of a 911 call. If there were a way to do this, then hackers would have a field day spoofing locations on 911 calls. For more information on the PBX ANI product, contact Proctor & Associates at 206-881-7000, or call Russ McCarthy at 714-770-0443. Paul Cook 206-881-7000 Proctor & Associates MCI Mail 399-1080 15050 NE 36th St. fax: 206-885-3282 Redmond, WA 98052-5378 3991080@mcimail.com ------------------------------ From: ulmo@panix.com (Bradley Ward Allen) Subject: Re: Troubles Retrieving Voice Mail in NYC Date: 1 Jun 1995 17:40:13 -0400 Organization: URL:http://www.armory.com/~ulmo/ (see rivers.html for PGP key) Sort of. According to a friend of mine, NYNEX has long been known to be (overly) cooperative with law enforcement. What you describe has something to do with the fact that when you dial the number, the payphones sending the dialed number to the police are not fast enough to hear all the digits you dial, or their buffer gets overflowed, or somehow they cannot receive all the data, so it just hangs up on you. Dial slower. But I try dialing slower and that sometimes works, sometimes does not. I think the theory is also to prevent people from using pagers. I just keep trying. Certain payphones are much more annoying in this regard than others. Each and *every* time this happens to me, I arrange for a credit to be sent from NYNEX to me for the amount I lost (just dial "0" (operator) from the payphone where you lost your money, or another payphone; also hit "#" to speed up the connection); if that so happens to be the cost of a call on my cellular phone, well so be it, they send me a credit for that amount, and I say that the NYNEX payphone ate that amount in coins just so we don't have to discuss the matter. It's best to have it done to a home phone number if you can in terms of billing because those checks are so annoying, but when I was between billing accounts I had them send me checks instead. (In either case logging each loss would be a good idea; I should but don't.) I sent two $.25 checks in for payment with my NYNEX bill one time, and they forgot to credit one (the other took 10 days more than the main money order, which took about two or three weeks.) I was so mad at them not crediting my account with it that I made four different billing resentatives track down what happened to it, and about two or three months later they finally adjusted my bill for the twenty-five cents. I was "overdue" by this .25 for a long time and received disconnect notices, etc. (although the disconnect notices may have indeed been based on their late processing of the main money order). I make them eat their own cooperation in terms of the inconvenience it causes me. Obviously someone someplace thinks it's worth their while for me and their company to go through all this extra fighting and trouble. Whatever, I still won't let them get me over on this one, besides the unpreventable loss in time it causes for me to deal with this all; just part of living in New York I assume (if it weren't for NYNEX, New York wouldn't be such a bad place). BTW, I have no surcharge calling cards; these things happen to me when I use a coin or a TLC prepaid card to (a) check voicemail (b) page somebody (usually people I'm emotionally attached to) or (c) dialing a number or two using my prepaid card. Even with all this trouble, NYNEX payphones are far and away better than the COCOTs. (Should I say "not as bad as"??) Even when normal phones say things like "1-800-555-1212 is not a number reachable from this area." (I always look up and say, "Gee, has midtown Manhattan been declared a different country?") Oops I forgot to realize during this post that when I make billing representatives spend hours looking for twenty-five cents, NYNEX includes this in their "cost of providing local service" to the PSC and the PSC allows NYNEX to pass the cost (surprise!) along to the rate payer. I still want *my* twenty-five cents. If some complacent little old lady (using my social security money and my bank interest payments) has to pay more because I want *my* twenty-five cents, all the better. In the case where my peers have to eat the charge, well, I can't really say I'm winning much. Hmm. Maybe that's why most people don't ask for their credits ... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Jun 1995 09:37:44 EDT From: SKASS@drew.edu Subject: Re: Troubles Retrieving Voice Mail in NYC In TELECOM Digest V15#255, Sven Dietrich writes: > I went up to a NYNEX pay phone with the keys even with the covering > metal plate and called the main number for my voice mail via > 10288-0-516-877-xxxx *bong* . After entering the > mailbox number and the * key, the phone hangs up on me. [and similar trouble with other phones disconnecting] Good luck. This is a supposed "anti-drug" technique that Nynex uses in cooperation with law enforcement officials to deter the use of pagers for drug deals. I tried my best a couple of years ago to do something about it and failed. Even a pocket tone generator won't help you. These phones are set up to detect tones _not_ generated by the phone's keypad, too, and will disconnect you after some number of tones (with special emphasis on the * and # keys). It surely must be illegal for Nynex to be monitoring my conversation and disconnecting me when they don't like what they hear (the tones), but neither Nynex, AT&T or the FCC seems interested in this. AT&T will credit me for calls disconnected because of this "feature," though. My solution has been to use Nynex phones _inside_ business establishments, which are less likely to be crippled. I don't think the physical appearance of the phone will give you a clue. Steve Kass, skass@drew.edu [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Well, if 'the physical appearance of the phone will not give a clue' then are you saying this is a central office function? Is the CO doing something it was programmed to do in the 'War on Drugs' or whatever? Its either the phone or the CO; which? PAT] ------------------------------ From: tony@nexus.yorku.ca (Anthony Wallis) Subject: Oppose Mandatory Touch-Tone $ervice - Your Action Needed Date: 1 Jun 1995 17:04:40 GMT Organization: York University, Ontario, Canada In can.general, Lester Hiraki complains about and opposes : > .. decisions by the Canadian Radio-television and > Telecommunications Commission (CRTC) .. have allowed telephone > companies to make touch-tone service mandatory. .. Note: "touch-tone" = brand-name for DTMF (dual-tone multi-frequency). "tone dialing" vs. "pulse dialing" is better simple usage. I would like someone with telcom switching knowledge (perhaps a reader of comp.dcom.telecom, where I have cross-posted this) to give some technical enlightenment on this. Please reply to can.general . My (limited and perhaps flawed) understanding is that, where the subscriber has a choice between pulse or tone dialing, there are NOT two parallel switching systems at the central office, one for pulse and one for tone, with the pulse system being cheaper. Rather, the switching system is tone based, with DTMF tone dialing being the primary presentation of the system to the subscriber. The alternate presentation of pulse dialing is a secondary "front end" for backwards compatibility with older systems. (Going all the way back to Mr. Strowger's techno-response to his competitor's wife being the town's switchboard operator.) Pulse dialed numbers are stored and then emitted as a tone burst into the tone switched system. Thus, if the above is basically true, the "extra charge" for a tone subscriber line is a legal-economic artifact. It is costing the telcom more to provide pulse dialing and this is not being reflected in the charge differential between those who have a pulse dialing only line and those who have a tone dialing line and do not use the pulse dialing option. (The latter are fast becoming the vast majority). The issue is not really one of making tone dialing mandatory as much as it is asking for removal of support for obsolete pulse dialing. In theory, the dropping of pulse dialing support should take the following form: [1] All "pulse dialing only" subscriber lines are "upgraded" to tone dialing at no charge for specifically that upgrade. [2] Simultaneously, there is a change in regulated subscriber rates. Should this appear as an increase to previous "pulse dialing only" subscribers and a tiny decrease (if any) to "tone dialing with the hardly ever used option of pulse dialing" subscribers, then it is _not_ a trick to make more $ , but rather an economically rational removal of a subsidy. [3] Owners/renters of pulse-only telephones are given the choice of (a) bearing the responsibility and cost of upgrading the equipment at their (subscriber) end of the line, or, (b) paying for conversion equipment at the central office end of the line. Of course, (a) will be so much cheaper that there will be no demand for (b). tony@nexus.yorku.ca = Tony Wallis, York University, North York, Canada. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Jun 95 00:21 EST From: Joseph Norton <0006487445@mcimail.com> Subject: Long-Distance Carriers and LEC's Hi all! A few years ago, AT&T introduced a service called "VoiceMark" that would allow a user to record a message and have it delivered to the destination phone number of choice. This service was improved and later renamed "True Messages." The service continues to expand, and is now being offered to many users of AT&T's 1-plus service (as opposed to Calling-Card users only, as was true in the past. No doubt, all of you are more than familiar with the services and other "store-and-forward" services offered by other companies. I mention this service in order to point out my recent experiences with AT&T after ALLTel began providing local service to my area. When GTE served our area, we could usually take advantage of new services offered by AT&T and other long-distance carriers shortly after the "Baby-Bells" got them. MCI and Sprint were even offering "BOC" billing to us. After ALLTel began serving our area, AT&T (and other carriers to a lesser or greater extent) could no longer offer certain services because of having no agreement with ALLTel for them. To illustrate: I heard about using "True Messages" from a 1-plus line if the service was subscribed for. I decided to try it, and since there was still some confusion as to who my LEC (Local Exchange Carrier) was, AT&T added the service to my number. Next day, I got a call from the AT&T rep who appologized, but, the service was not available to ALLTel customers and would have to be removed. I *NEVER* saw AT&T remove a service as fast as when they found out their mistake in my case :-). The service was disabled within about an hour after I got the call. If GTE still served my area, I could take advantage of this service, and the "True Connections" service (Which I used as a GTE subscriber under the name "Easy-Reach"). Other AT&T programs have been affected, and Long-Distance Carriers (such as MCI and Sprint) do not seem to be able to offer "BOC" billing on my regular phone bill. Anyone have any suggestions as to how I can use the latest services from the LD Carriers without moving to a major metropolitan area? It puzzles me that a company like AT&T (for example) cannot offer the kind of service it should be able to just because a LEC can't handle the billing. I spoke with a member of management at AT&T who thought he had come up with a solution to this problem. Simply set up independent billing arrangements with AT&T and have them bill me for everything. This service, however, is not offered in Georgia, and so that idea fell through. Maybe when there's competition between LEC's, I'll be able to use some of the newer services which shouldn't have much to do with the LEC anyway, although, I bet that opening a local market to other LEC's is going to be a lot of fun (well, maybe fun is too strong a word:-). Any of you had similar experiences? Thanks! Joseph (Joe) Norton <6487445@MCIMAIL.COM> Dalton, Georgia--The Carpet Capital of the world ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #266 ****************************** Received: from delta.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa07014; 2 Jun 95 21:25 EDT Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA27857 for telecomlist-outbound; Fri, 2 Jun 1995 14:37:05 -0500 Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA27849; Fri, 2 Jun 1995 14:37:03 -0500 Date: Fri, 2 Jun 1995 14:37:03 -0500 From: TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson) Message-Id: <199506021937.OAA27849@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #267 TELECOM Digest Fri, 2 Jun 95 14:37:00 CDT Volume 15 : Issue 267 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Bell Canada Files Rates For Business Local Measured Service (Dave Leibold) Motorola Three Time Program Limit (Ken Levitt) Re: Bell Canada Pulse vs. Tone (Scott Sarty) Manipulative Long Distance Marketing (Richard Layman) Gate Intercom Tied to Private Phone (David Baird) Libel Liability Limits? (Mike Wengler) Difference Between "A" and "B" Cell Systems? (Greg Tompkins) Conference: Commerce and Banking on the Information Highway (D. St. John) More, By George! Coming Your Way This Weekend (TELECOM Digest Editor) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of public service systems and networks including Compuserve and America On Line. It is also gatewayed to Usenet where it appears as the moderated newsgroup 'comp.dcom.telecom'. Subscriptions are available to qualified organizations and individual readers. 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Bell wants approval to have the charges in place for 1st July 1997, with a prior year-long "shadow" billing that will inform business customers of how much they would pay if local measured service were in effect. This originally began with a CRTC Letter Decision allowing Bell to harmonise PBX and Key system rates. The result would be that Bell could file a "threshold" pricing plan affecting all business lines. The "threshold" plan would have meant that a certain amount of local calling would be available for a local monthly rate, after which local measured charges would be applied. A Business Customer Advisory Panel was subsequently set up by Bell. This group of representatives from selected small, medium and large organisations would advise Bell regarding the proposed local rates revamp. "While the Panel did not support the concept of local measured service," stated the Bell tariff notice text, "most members felt that a simplified structure, without a usage threshold, would be preferable". The panel's reasons, as listed by Bell, were that this would be easier to manage, would ensure costs only pay for local calls made, and would minimise cross-subsidisation of heavy users by low volume users. Bell now seeks straight local measured tariffs without that initial threshold. Bell Canada Tariff Notice 5506 contains the specifics of Bell's Business Exchange Measured Service filing. "TelecomLink" will be the buzzword given to this fundamental change in local phone service billing. All of the following are proposed tariff revisions that require CRTC approval and could be altered or rejected in the process. Some of the highlights: * Business 2-party service will be upgraded to individual line service. * The former "Business Message Rate" service applicable in some business line cases would be withdrawn in favour of the new pay-per-call scheme. * 4-party customers would still have a constant monthly local service rate * Business lines in some northern points, served by exchanges in rate group 3A, will retain flat-rated local service. These are for exchanges in northern Ontario or Quebec whose local calling areas are counted at 1500 phone numbers or fewer, where installation of local measuring would not be worthwhile. * Proposal is similar to Ameritech's scheme in Illinois. The Charges: The local call charges will depend on the distance between the origin and destination exchange "wire centres", similar to how long distance calling is measured (V&H co-ordinates and all). The four bands and their costs per minute are: 0-15 km $0.015/min 16-30 km $0.020/min 31-45 km $0.035/min 46+ km $0.055/min Charging begins with an initial 30 second period (ie. half the per-minute cost), then charges occur in 6 second increments (each increment would be one- tenth the per-minute cost). Thus, if you're on the phone to a local supplier where the rate distance is in the 16-30 km range, and you're on hold for 20 minutes, the call would cost 20 x $0.020 or 40 cents in peak times (plus applicable taxes). Discounts would be available depending on the time of day and day of week. Local charges from 5 pm to 11 pm weekdays would be discounted 10%; local calls between 11 pm and 8 am any day are discounted 30%; local calls throughout the weekend (from Friday 11pm until Monday 8am) would also be discounted 30%. There are discounts proposed for volume usage, starting at $10 of local usage per month. The percentage of these discounts increases according to the amount of local usage incurred per month. Initially, there would be a $60 cap on local usage charges each month, but Bell will increase this cap and eventually eliminate this limit after 4.5 years. For competing long distance providers using "line-side" access, this would mean expected increased costs of 1.6-5.7% initially, eventually reaching a 16.4-19.9% increase when the price cap is gone. Fidonet : Dave Leibold 1:250/730 Internet: Dave.Leibold@superctl.tor250.org ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Jun 95 01:30:45 EST From: levitt@zorro9.fidonet.org (Ken Levitt) Subject: Motorola Three Time Program Limit In Telecom Digest V13 Issue 842 Telecom Moderator writes to Mark Earle > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Your documentation above is remarkably > similar to the way Motorola has programmed their phones for the past > several years. Your documentation would work easily on many old phones > from Motorola I suspect. My old 600 channel Motorola phone also went > into 'local' or 'test/programming mode' with the same grounding of a > pin as you describe it above, enabling one to reset the counter which > supposedly restricted programming the phone number to three times. > Since my Motorola had a 25-pin thing on it which connected to the > battery pack, the way I handled the grounding of the pin was to get a > 25-pin connector from Radio Shack. I opened it up, shorted the desired > lead in there to another lead coming from the pin on the back of the > phone known to be a floating ground. I have the 25 pin connector, but I need to know which pins to short. I looked through all of the Telecom Archives and could not find the answer. Any help would be appreciated. Ken Levitt - On FidoNet gateway node 1:16/390 UUCP: zorro9!levitt INTERNET: levitt@zorro9.fidonet.org or levitt%zorro9.uucp@talcott.harvard.edu [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Volume 13 ??? Issue 842 ??? Geeze, you are not behind in reading your mail are you? Unfortunatly I no longer have that old phone, and when it left me what documentation I had went with it. I hope one or more readers with Motorola phones, particularly the old, big heavy jobs will write you on this with an explanation of the pinout. I do recall a pin to the floating ground was right next to the pin which needs to be held low to go into so-called 'local mode'. It was a simple enough job in the Radio Shack 25-pin gender changer to drop a bit of solder judiciously between the two pins connecting them. Then to get into local mode, you pull the battery off, slide in the modified 25- pin connector sandwhich style, and reattach the battery to the other side of the connector. That brings the phone up 'local'. Then you set the desired register to zero. Someone with one of those old phones help out on this, and write back to the requestor with the information. PAT] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Jun 1995 11:31:44 -0400 From: SCOTT SARTY Subject: Re: Bell Canada Pulse vs. Tone Bell Canada phoned me (for my personal home telephone) to offer DTFM. What is interesting is that, now it is CHEAPER (approximately $6.00 / mo.). I was required to turn in my rotary phone, and use a Vista 200 phone. I have until now been a pulse hold out because they wanted to charge me more for a service which was cheaper for them. Now that Bell has a more sensible rate, I have switched. I have not received my first bill yet, so I have not actually verified this (I don't completly trust Bell's claims). Scott Sarty srs@blakes.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jun 1995 11:36:12 EDT From: Richard Layman Subject: Manipulative Long Distance Marketing 1. The Tuesday 5/30/95 edition of the {Wall Street Journal} had a good article on ONCOR, the alternative operator service owned by Ronald Haan, which charges up to $9/minute for calling card calls from payphones where it has the "privilege" of providing long distance services. Well worth reading. 2. Today, I called Dial&Save, which sent me a mailing on the envelope stating: Important Announcement for all Washington, D.C. telephone customers. Inside it says that we are guaranteed savings 25% below AT&T, MCI, and Sprint basic long distance rates. Although the fine print says that "rates and guarantee detailed in Dial and Save FCC tariff #1" I called the number they provide for customer service 800-787-3333 for specific mileage band rates, which they refused to provide me. The representative stated "I'm not going to go over your phone bill for you." I said "You can't give me specific rates?" She hung up stating "Thank you for calling." I guess AT&T, MCI, and Sprint may not be so bad ... they did list a chart of international rates, but I make very few such calls, so I had no real basis of comparison. Dial & Save, 4219 Lafayette Center Drive, Chantilly, VA 22021-1209 1-0-457 Richard Layman, Mgr., Business Development, and Research Producer Computer Television Network, 825 6th St. NE, Washington, DC 20002 (202)544-5722 - (202)543-6730 (fax) - rlayman@capaccess.org http://www.phoenix.net/~ctn (... I know, it needs work) [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Thank you for providing information on this charming new arrival in the industry. I'm sure our readers will swarm over there to sign up with such personable customer service reps on duty taking calls. PAT] ------------------------------ From: xdab@kimbark.uchicago.edu (David Baird) Subject: Gate Intercom Tied to Private Phone Reply-To: xdab@midway.uchicago.edu Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Information Technologies Date: Thu, 1 Jun 1995 02:43:44 GMT I hope this does not result in a flame war, but I am interested in the collective wisdom of the net on the following topic. The condo association where I live is in the process of installing a new intercom system between the front gate (fronting on the street) and the individual units in the association. The system will consist of a "phone" at the front gate programmed to speed dial the phone numbers of the residents' apartments. Thus someone at the gate will l1G$press, e.g., 02, the unit will go off-hook and dial my land-line phone number (or any number I tell them, I guess). If the number dialed is busy, the person at the gate is SOL unless the individual's phone line is programmed with call waiting. Then the individual on the phone would be notified of a call, but a modem call would be knocked off-line (and sending *70 at the beginning of the modem session still leaves the user blissfully unaware of someone at the gate). The system which is being replaced is a hard-wired intercom (speaker/microphone at the gate and in the unit) that is hard to maintain and repair. At the moment, however, I can be connected to the net, and still know when the pizza guy has arrived. I wonder how many people and/or buildings have these "phone" units? How reliable are they? I guess the answer to this question will ultimately be how will it stand up to the elements and vandalism? But more on my mind is how do net users who live in buildings so equipped deal with modems, etc. on the line "tied" to the gate? Currently, I do not have call waiting, so incoming calls do not knock me off line in the middle of a session. I do have Ameritech provided Voice Mail, so messages can be left for us if my wife or I am using the modem or using the phone. Will a call generated at the gate ring through to a answering machine or voice mail if not canceled by the individual at the gate? I would think it would, so I will then have to pay real money to listen to people at the gate after the fact. Do you "just live with this state of affairs" and just accept the fact that when the phone line is in use you will not know anything about what is happening at the gate? Some thoughts I have had about the situation: *I have a phone installed in my unit for my convenience and use. Since the condo association currently supplies the intercom service, the condo association should supply a pots line for this new service. *While I do not have an unlisted phone number, some residents in the building do. They are not pleased to have to turn their number over to the management company to have the unit programmed for speed dialing. How should one respond to their concerns? *What should be the association's response to an (hypothetical, as far as I know) individual who does not have/want a phone in their unit? Does the condo association have a responsibility to provide the unit owner a way to be notified of a visitor or repair/service worker waiting at the gate? Am I just being a Luddite on this issue, or do I have grounds for thinking that this solution is not the best way to approach the problem of remote notification from the gate? The cost for repulling pairs from the gate to the individual units, and a new intecom system, is admittedly greater when compared to the "phone" system's initial start-up costs. But are there hidden costs, and are there other legal and/or privacy concerns that will come back to haunt this installation? As I noted at the beginning, I hope this does not lead to flame wars. I know I could easily have a second pots line installed in my unit for my modem/fax. But at the moment I do not have to incur this additional monthly expense, and would not look favorably to having pay for a second line if forced to do so. I am looking forward to hearing the collective wisdom of the net. David Baird xdab@midway.uchicago.edu University of Chicago d-baird@uchicago.edu Networking Services (312) 702-7161 [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: The association is opting for the cheap way out on this. *Good* front door/apartment intercom systems which operate via the telephone use either CO-provided equipment with dedicated pairs jumpered into your phone line or they use a control box in the basement of the building (or wherever telco's demarc is for the property.) I think the former, CO-based system, called Enterphone, and tariffed by various telcos was ruled against by Judge Greene with the telcos unable to sell any further systems and existing subscribers grandfathered. I know Ameritech does not offer it any longer; all they do is maintain the old customers of Illinois Bell who have had it for years. The on-premises version is called 'Interphone', and was manufactured by GTE/Canada for quite awhile ... maybe still. Either way, the results are the same. With E(I)nterphone, the control box (or central office) sends dialtone to the front gate and a phone there. The front gate dials a three digit code. The control box (or central office) translates that to a given *house pair* at the premises. That *house pair* (in the case of a control box on the premises) or *dedicated pair from the central office* (in the case of a CO-based system) always stays with the apartment, regardless of what actual phone number is in use. Indeed, the resident need not have phone service at all, just an instrument attached to the pair in his apartment. So the front gate dials a (usually) three digit code. The translation is done to a pair. The pair is tested for busy, and if it is not in use, ringing voltage is sent. The ringing cadence identifies the call as sent via the front gate rather than a 'regular' call. I think it is two short rings and a pause, then two more short rings. If the pair tests busy then a unique call-waiting tone is imposed on the line over the existing conversa- tion. It also is unique so the apartment user can distinquish a central office call waiting versus a front gate call interupting a 'regular' call. The apartment dweller answers the phone and is given up to 45 seconds for a conversation with the gate. This limit can be set by the installer. The ringing cadence, as mentioned above, allows the apartment dweller to use the appropriate answer phrase, or to ignore the call entirely without risking missing a 'real' phone call if desired. If the phone is in use and the control box (or central office) imposes the special 'front door call waiting' tone, then the apartment dweller can choose to ignore it or answer it. If ignored, the gate is automatically disconnected after about five or six rings. If the apartment dweller chooses to answer, this is done in the regular way with a switchook flash. The local control box then puts the central office on hold and connects in the gate call. As noted above, there can be up to 45 seconds of conversation. To admit the gate caller to the premises, the apartment dweller dials 7 on the phone. To deny admission, dial 9. (This varies by installation also). In either case, the gate is then disconnected and if a 'regular' call was in progress the central office is reconnected. If not, then the phone simply goes dead, or returns 'regular' dial tone if left off hook a few seconds. I(E)nterphone cannot be used for apartment-to-apartment calls. If the apartment dweller chooses to admit the visitor (by dialing 7), the control box sends appropriate current to the gate to allow the gate or front door to unlatch momentarily. If the system is CO-based, then the CO sends current over a dedicated pair to a relay near the front door which in turn throws the relay and allows the appropriate current to unlatch the front door. Neither version allows calls from the gate to be 'call forwarded'. This should be obvious since neither system relies on any specific phone number, but rather, just a pair of wires from the control unit to the apartment using the existing house pairs. Likewise, neither version will send calls to voicemail, since there is no call to be withdrawn after a certain number of rings. The use of *70 does not affect calls from the gate. In both the premises and CO-based versions, *70 is overridden by the gate. In most places, there are at least two pairs in every apartment. At the time of installation, if you have two phone lines, residents ask to have the front gate system attached to one or the other. It is not necessary to reveal your phone number to anyone -- all they use are the pairs which come there. If a resident has only one phone line, then often times he will request that the front door system be attached to the idle pair in his apartment. He then purchases a cheap ten dollar phone somewhere to attach on that line in his apartment for door-answering purposes only. If your phone is disconnected for non-payment (or you are new in the building and don't have it turned on yet) this does not matter where the front door is concerned. All you need is an instrument on the pair in question. In both versions, it is strictly front gate to apartment. The apartments cannot call each other, nor can they call the gate. In high security locations where the gate or front door phone is likely to be vandalized, special phones with armored handset cables, etc can be used. One installation in Chicago I am familiar with uses a speaker- phone at the front door, and a touch tone pad with aluminum buttons to press. Pressing the first button (always a '1' in their application) turns on the speakerphone with a 45 second timeout. The next two digits are translated to the apartment in question. They leave nothing for the 'guest' at the front door to get his greasy filthy hands on except buttons to push. No receivers to steal or smash, no phone to rip out, etc. The speaker itself is mounted inside the wall behind a steel plate. Tell your association to reconsider what they are doing, and to do it right. Yes, it costs a bit more, but provides excellent security. Many buildings in Chicago use the system I have described, along with a television camera which monitors the gate or front entrance. The apartment dweller need merely tune on 'channel 3' on television to view the front door while talking on the phone to the person he is viewing on television. This is the *only* way to go, in my opinion. PAT] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Jun 1995 09:20:08 -0500 From: wengler@ee.rochester.edu (Mike Wengler) Subject: Libel Liability Limits? Regarding the court decision holding Prodigy liable for libel for 'publishing' a message from one of its users, PAT writes: > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I think the decision was fair and proper. > ...I support Prodigy's right to have full editorial control over every last > item on their system if they want. ... > And I'll tell you who I think will be the next one to get their corporate > neck on the chopping block: America On Line. Those folks lean hard and > breath heavily on their user/subscribers also with their 'Terms of Service' > provisions which the Guides are *constantly* reminding people about. > Say a profane word in a chat room? Read those Terms of Service! Put up > something disagreeable in one of the forums? Read those Terms of Service! All sysops provide an 'editing' function like AOL's. I have simply NEVER heard of a system where an abusive user is tolerated indefinitely. S/He is kicked off the system, after being warned. What constitutes 'abuse' is, of course, an editorial decision, and warning, and kicking the user off is an editorial act. AOL formalizes it in codified policies because they are big, but EVERY system on the net does it. The implication of PAT's point of view, then, is that ALL system operators will and SHOULD be liable for the CONTENT of the postings of their users. If AOL should be liable for libel, then every University or company that allows access to the various fora on the internet is a publisher. Guess what? Sue them and they'll yank internet access. That is the only 'editorial' decision they can afford. And what gain to whom then? PAT? WHY, oh why should kicking off a consistent curser or other sort of obnoxious jerk bring the resonsibility on you of checking the facts of every consumer's opinion of the product they received (or failed to)? What possible societal good is served by this policy? PAT? No one seems to sue printing presses that I'm aware, anyway. The author, yes, the publisher, yes if it has deep pockets, but the printing press, I don't hear of it. Why can't AOL be more like a printing press in terms of liability. Suppose I run a printing press, and refuse to print up a bunch of pornography. Do I then have to not only READ, but CHECK THE FACTS in everything else brought in for me to print? PAT? Mike Wengler For PGP, research plans, & more information, see web pages starting with: http://www.ceas.rochester.edu:8080/ee/users/wengler/home.html Electrical Engineering Department Voice: 716 275-9402 University of Rochester Fax : 716 473-0486 Rochester NY 14627 Mobile: 716 748-1930 [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: It is a matter of degree. AOL tries very hard to police their users rather than waiting for sufficient complaints *from other users* as a reason to deny service. If no one complains at all, a Guide on AOL will still write up a user for various things. That is a little more pro-active than I think would be allowed if it came to a court test. If a system is going to be something more than just a hodge-podge of whatever the users happen to write there, then there has to be some editorial control. As soon as some editorial control gets underway, you are on the proverbial 'slippery slope' that leads to what the editor did or should have done to prevent libel, etc. I think in general though, it is time for BBS sysops to grow up. If you want to have a genuine e-zine kind of thing, then play by the rules. If all you want is to have your hobby, that's fine also, but go one way or the other. I personally think most sysops would opt for some professionalism in the way their boards are run. I think the electronic online community has matured to that point in the past decade. In any event, cases like Prodigy are what keep the courts busy. We have to save some work for the lawyers and judges don't we? Should they have to go hungry because the rest of us behave ourselves so perfectly all the time? PAT] ------------------------------ From: Greg Tompkins Subject: Difference between "A" and "B" Cell Systems? Date: 1 Jun 1995 04:59:20 GMT Organization: 4-T Acres What exactly is the difference between "A" and "B" cell systems? I am currently on GTE Mobilnet in Portland, Oregon and was just wondering. Thanks. [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: "B" systems are those systems owned and operated by the local 'wireline telco' of record in the community being served. "A" systems are those operated by 'someone else'; typically a telco from another town. Ameritech is the "B" carrier in Chicago because it operates the phone company here; it is the "A" carrier in some other places. Likewise, Southwestern Bell Mobility is the "B" carrier in St. Louis where they are also the phone company, but here in Chicago Southwestern Bell is the "A" carrier, operating under the name Cellular One. Is that all clear as mud? Many/most "A" carriers use the franchise name 'Cellular One' for their activities while the "B" carriers use whatever name they use. PAT] ------------------------------ From: David St. John Subject: Conference: Commerce & Banking on the Info. Superhighway Date: 1 Jun 1995 06:15:13 GMT Organization: University of California, Irvine COMMERCE AND BANKING ON THE INFORMATION SUPERHIGHWAY July 24 & 25, 1995 San Diego, California ICM Conferences, Inc. (http://www.intermarket.com/infowatch/icm/) announces an executive conference for financial organizations seeking to develop business in cyberspace. The goal of this event, headed by Chairperson William P. Anderson, President and CEO, Block Financial Corporation, and other Key Contributors is to: * Bring Financial Services Providers and "Cyber Entrepreneurs" Together * Inform Banks how to meet Demands for their Services in Cyberspace * Define the Potential for New Banking Business * Inform the Banking Executive how to Optimize New Profit Opportunities You should attend this event if you are involved with: o Chief Executive Officers o Retail Banking Executives o Delivery Systems Managers o Electronic Banking Managers o Professionals in the fields of Strategic Planning, Operations and Technology, Smartcards, Telecommunications, Sales and Marketing o Presidents, Vice-Presidents, Chief Information Officers of Financial Sales and Marketing o Those who wish to acquire a working knowledge of cybercash on the emerging infobahn Content and Theme: As more and more commercial information providers, producers, distributors and consumers come together to do business in cyberspace, what should banking institutions know about, and how should they tackle, the opportunities on the infobahn now under construction? How can they protect and expand marketshare in the face of new and aggressive non-bank competitors in cyberspace? How can banks use advances in technology to provide new services and create new ways of doing business on this wholly new banking delivery channel? After extensive research, ICM has prepared a program where delegates will learn: o When the Internet will safely handle cashflow. o How Smartcards and electronic banking will intertwine. o What leading edge technologies non-bank contenders will be using to take away bank customers. o How technology will influence buyer behavior for financial services. o What products and services are available on the infobahn for financial institutions. If you would like more detailed information, including a list of actual speakers, sent to you automatically via fax or US post, you can make an Online Inquiry (http://www.intermarket.com/infowatch/icm/oninq.html). If you do not have WWW access, or if you have specific questions, you can contact ICM Conferences, Inc. directly at (312) 540-3016. ICM Conference Guide: http://www.intermarket.com/infowatch/icm/ ------------------------------ From: TELECOM Digest Editor Subject: More, By George! Coming Your Way This Weekend Date: Fri, 02 Jun 1995 14:30:00 CDT I have two more great items from George Gilder. An eleventh article in his series is now available, plus another item where he 'answers his critics'. One will be transmitted immediatly, following this issue of the Digest. The other will be sent along over the weekend as well for your reading pleasure. Naturally, both will find permanent homes in the Telecom Archives, in the sub-directory devoted to Gilder's work. PAT ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #267 ****************************** Received: from delta.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa25794; 6 Jun 95 1:35 EDT Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id TAA21545 for telecomlist-outbound; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 19:12:11 -0500 Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id TAA21537; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 19:12:09 -0500 Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 19:12:09 -0500 From: TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson) Message-Id: <199506060012.TAA21537@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #268 TELECOM Digest Mon, 5 Jun 95 19:12:00 CDT Volume 15 : Issue 268 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Book Review: "net.sex" by Rose/Thomas (Rob Slade) MCI Purchases Darome Teleconferencing (TELECOM Digest Editor) The PBX Owner's Lament (Kevin Fleming) "Fax Mailbox" Type Services - How They Work, Which Are Good (Donald Burr) CTI Application Wanted For Data Collection (William Boswell) Billed Party Preference (Mark J. Cuccia) Crossed Wires and ANI (Chris J. Cartwright) Inbound Out-of-Home-Area Cellular Calls (Spiros Triantafyllopoulos) Cellular Service in Hungary (George F. Levar) Bell Canada Applied For Information Service Trial (Dave Leibold) LDDS Cost Information and Quality Query (eric@tyrell.net) NTI Remote Assistant (Allan Bourque) NYNEX CallerID Bug (Barry F. Margolius) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of public service systems and networks including Compuserve and America On Line. 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Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 05 Jun 1995 15:20:21 EST From: Rob Slade Subject: Book Review: "net.sex" by Rose/Thomas BKNETSEX.RVW 950412 "net.sex: The Complete Guide to the Adult Side of the Internet", Candi Rose/Dirk Thomas, 1995, 0-672-30702-2, U$19.99/C$26.99/UK#15.50 %A Candi Rose and Dirk Thomas (oh, really?) dirkncandi@aol.com %C 201 W. 103rd Street, Indianapolis, IN 46290 %D 1995 %G 0-672-30702-2 %I SAMS Publishing %O U$19.99/C$26.99/UK#15.50 800-858-7674 75677.720@compuserve.com %O 317-581-3743 75141.2102@compuserve.com 75141.2104@compuserve.com %P 243 %T "net.sex: The Complete Guide to the Adult Side of the Internet" Sex sells. Because sex sells, it is often used to promote either an otherwise lackluster product, or a product which has no other value. It is, therefore, somewhat astonishing to find that careful writing and a good deal of research have gone into this work. Part one deals with email and mailing lists. Descriptions are thorough, and there are often sample messages. The list includes not merely "kinky-girls" and the like, but social and political lists touching on matters of sex and sexuality. Part two covers Usenet news, with chapters on related discussion newsgroups, graphics postings, personals, sex and politics, and anonymizing servers. IRC (Internet Rely Chat) and MUDs (Multiple User Domains) are described in part three. The final section discusses looking for file archives, various available FAQs (Frequently Asked Questions lists), and companies with sex-related products. There is an appendix which talks about file archiving, compressing and encoding software and formats. The discussions of general Internet tools are brief, but quite sound. A list of mail-to-Usenet gateways is the most complete I've ever seen. (Ironically, it includes the defunct decwrl site, but not the ubiquitous utexas mailer.) I'm surprised at a "search strategy" which uses arcane local commands, but doesn't take advantage of archie. One point in regard to scanning files should be made--at least one prosecution for scanning and making available copyright material from magazines such as Playboy has been successfully completed, and more are in the works. copyright Robert M. Slade, 1995 BKNETSEX.RVW 950412. Distribution permitted in TELECOM Digest and associated publications. Rob Slade's book reviews are a regular feature in the Digest. Vancouver ROBERTS@decus.ca | Computer user thinks Institute for Robert_Slade@sfu.ca | the machine just works for him Research into Rob.Slade@f733.n153.z1/| Monkey disagrees User .fidonet.org| Security Canada V7K 2G6 | - virus haiku ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 18:09:31 -0500 From: TELECOM Digest Editor Subject: MCI Purchases Darome Teleconferencing MCI Communications has purchased Darome Teleconferencing of Chicago for $32 million. The deal, which was concluded about a week ago, created one of the world's largest privately held international teleconferencing companies. Darome, which has 12,000 clients worldwide, now gets access to MCI's extensive customer base. On the flip side, MCI now gets extensive inroads into the teleconferencing market. Darome was founded in 1969, the same year as MCI was making its first major expansion here in Illinois. The MCI/Darome conferencing unit will operate as a separate entity within the MCI Business Market group. The agreement still needs stockholder approval from stockholders of both companies and clearance under the federal Hart-Scott-Rodino Act. According to Philip D. Knell, Darome's president and CEO, desktop video conference units will be quite commonplace within the next three to four years. PAT ------------------------------ From: Fleming,Kevin Subject: The PBX Owner's Lament Date: Mon, 05 Jun 1995 12:31:46 This weekend, the {Arizona Republic} ran an article in the Business section about how awful it is that business owners in the new Arizona area code (520) are having trouble receiving calls from their customers/suppliers. Never mind that the permissive dialing period hasn't ended yet (it's scheduled for 7/23), one guy says that he's already lost 60% of his business. Of course, the Corporation Commission has already asked US West to automatically extend the permissive period (right after US West extended the one in Washington, I believe), but US West said no. Now they are in negotiations for a non-automatic extension, but US West is already denying requests for new telephone number blocks, and the cellular/paging companies are being hurt. They're out of numbers (or nearly so) and can't get any more until some time after permissive dialing ends. Isn't this getting silly? Have any of the new NPAs gone out of permissive dialing yet? On another related note: Recently I was at the local Novell office downtown, which is located at the AT&T office building. This building is served by some type of Definity/Audix combo and provides tenant service to all the non-AT&T tenants, including Novell. I needed to place a call to a customer that has a number of the form 602-906-xxxx, a form that's been used here since about two days after it was allowed. The PBX denied me, obviously it hasn't got the proper exchange/NPA tables set up. Not even at AT&T. Kevin Fleming, Reliable Networx, Phoenix, AZ Internet: KFleming@ReliableNetworx.COM ------------------------------ From: picard@silcom.com (Donald Burr) Subject: "Fax Mailbox" Type Services - How They Work, Which Are Good Date: 5 Jun 1995 04:08:01 GMT Organization: Starfleet Command My roommate and I would like to be able to receive FAXes. However, due to various reasons that would take too long to get into, we cannot have a second phone line in our apartment, and we can't afford a fax machine, or to have a computer on 24 hours a day. I've heard of "fax mailbox" type services that will give you a phone number that people can send FAXes to. Then you call in at a later time and pick up any FAXes waiting for you. It kinda works like an answering machine or voice mail, but it's for FAX transmissions. Since I don't know exactly how they work, if anyone does, and can explain it to me, I would appreciate it very much. Also, what extra hardware do we need to have in order to use this service? Will it work with FAX modems hooked to computers, or do you NEED a fax MACHINE? Lastly, I have no idea who offers these services, and how much they cost. Obviously, we'd want to try and shop around for the best deals, and if it's more expensive than the system we're using now, it will probably be best to make do with what we have. If it matters, we live in the Santa Barbara, CA (southern California) area, and our local telephone provider is GTE. We use MCI for our long-distance service. Please reply by E-MAIL to picard@silcom.com. Thank you for your help! Donald Burr, ComSci major in training :-) [by 6/95, we hope...] POB 91212, Santa Barbara, CA 93190-1212 // tel: (805)564-1871 // fax: 564-2315 email: picard@silcom.com // PGP Public Key - use finger or public key servers http://www.silcom.com/~picard ** Uphold your right to privacy - Use PGP. ------------------------------ From: boswell@primenet.com (william boswell) Subject: CTI Application Wanted For Data Collection Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 11:28:07 MST Organization: Primenet I need a reliable (read rock solid) CTI app that will collect data from callers via the phone's keypad and save that to a file that I can incorporate into a database I'm designing. This is my vision: caller dials number and gets message: "Enter authorization code." Caller does so and is authenticated. "Enter daily sales volume" Caller enters ##### (whatever number) and terminates with pound sign or whatever. Application saves input into flat file for later merge into database. Any help appreciated. bill ------------------------------ From: Mark J. Cuccia Subject: Billed Party Preference Date: 5 Jun 1995 13:36:28 GMT Organization: Tulane University Does anyone know what the latest is on 'Billed Party Preference'(BPP)?? A recent FCC Inquiry deals with 'branding' collect calls (reverse charge) calls via operators/automated-operator-services on BOTH ends of the call. The Opr/Opr-Svc. MUST identify itself to the party placing the call AND to the party receiving (and paying if they accept) the call. We all know about the problems of PRIVATE PAYPHONES (euphamistically called 'COCOTS') and Private Operator services(?), euphamistically called AOS'. MOST of us know how to use 10-XXX+ (soon to be 101-XXXX+) access/identifier codes, 950-XXXX and 1-800- access numbers which are to route the call via the carrier WE as the caller want to use (and if it is collect/3d.pty., since we probably have a personal arrangement with the paying party, we know the carrier they would like us to use) to over-ride the preselected carrier of the private payphone owner (even the '0' carrier of the Telco payphone, chosen by the business location owner). (In an earlier post, I stated that I would like to see ALL local telcos/inTRA-Lata carriers ALSO have access numbers/codes as above, preferably a UNIVERSAL/NATIONAL code/access-number for 'the local exchange carrier' for use on InTRA-LATA calls, since SOMETIMES, Bell/LocalTelco IS less-expensive than ANY IXC on inTRA-LATA/Local -- THIS would be IDEAL for private payphone and PBX situations where you cannot get the LEC '0' services) Billed Party Preference (BPP) is supposed to use 'LIDB' Line-Information- Data-Bases, something like the 800 Database -- A 'LOOKUP' would be done on '0' type calls and the call would route over the (primary) carrier of the BILLED party, rather than the originating-line (calling) party. The end-user (calling party) CAN, of course, use a 10-XXX+ to override, or use 950- or 1-800- 'feature-group-B' access for a DIFFERENT carrier (and of course, the billed party could refuse the call). The only catch to this override is that the dialing party might just dial 0+ at a private payphone (assuming that the collect/3d.pty's chosen carrier will be the carrier), but the PAYPHONE'S INTERNAL CHIPS will route the call with its 'dialout' by doing a 10-XXX+ or 950/1-800 for the ripoff '0' carrier. BUT I haven't seen anything lately about implementation of LIDB or BPP. ANYTHING LATELY??? Mark J. Cuccia CALL/WRITE/WIRE: HOME: CHestnut 1-2497 (rolls to cellphone/voicemail) (+1 504 241 2497) WORK: mcuccia@law.tulane.edu UNiversity 5-6000 (EXT.5954 TEL; +1 504-865-5954) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 13:48:16 EDT From: Chris J. Cartwright - ELF Reply-To: Chris J. Cartwright - ELF Subject: Crossed Wires and ANI If this has been explained previosly I apologize, but curiosity has gotten the better of me. I work on a contract to the miliary and in addition to making all the computers play nice with each other I seem to be the local telecom guru. This does not speak well of my talents but more the lack of talent around me. In any event I was troubleshooting some of our incoming modem lines and caused an odd (to me) situation to occur. To explain a little we have 600 pairs coming in from a 5ESS and several strands of fiber. A few of these are T1 some 56K but mostly these are POTS/Centrex lines. I was using MY-ANI-IS to label the demarc (cursing my predecessor!) when I slipped up. I was using a tone butt set to dial out on each of the lines in a 66 block. My count was off and I tied across pins 9 and 10 instead of 10 and 11. This gave me TIP of one line and RING of another, oblivious I hit the redial. The call went out and other than the audio being reduced nothing seemed odd. Since the AC and prefix are the same the 301-NXX sounded like the echo supression was bad. It wasn't until I got to the extension number that I got a clue something was wrong. What I got was a readback of both numbers simultaneosly! Yes they were off by a few milliseconds (accounting for the echo) but if I listened carfully I could hear both numbers being reported. A little more information. These lines can also be connect to AUTOVON so we have two outdial codes. I was using the commercial carrier for these calls. It defaults to Sprint if that makes any difference. There has also been mention of an ORM (Optical Remote Module?) at our POP. So far the facilities telco people only tell me "Nah, can't work like that". As this is a military intallation I can't experiment with this as much as I would like. A few of the questions I have are: 1) Can this happen in a "normal" configuration? 2) Is it a security problem for us? 3) What does the billing system do with this? I'm sure others in the group will have more questions and hopefully answers to this one. Chris Cartwright, Technical Engineer Mail dsc3cjc@imc220.med.navy.mil ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 13:36:38 -0500 From: c23st@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com (Spiros Triantafyllopoulos) Subject: Inbound Out-of-Home-Area Cellular Calls Hello, Could someone please explain the mechanism that allows cell phones to *receive* calls while they are out of their home area? I recently had the need to receive a call while out of my area (Central Indiana via Cellular One) and according to the friendly representative all I needed to do was dial some access code ONCE to unlock the block from my phone. He said that once the block is released, I can receive calls anywhere in the US and all people have to do is dial my number in Indiana (317-xxx-yyyy) and the system will locate me in any state I am, without me doing anything special or my callers calling funny access numbers. I did not try this (I was able to place calls but not receive) and the obvious question is, is the guy right? will the system search thru ALL cell networks in the US trying to find me, or I need to register somehow that I'm in the Chicago area so that I can be reached there ... Any explanation of the above will be appreciated. It *can't* be as simple as what the guy said. Thanks, Spiros Triantafyllopoulos Kokomo, IN 46904 (317) 451-0815 Software Development Tools c23st@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com Delco Electronics Corporation "Reading, 'Rithmetic, and Readnews" ------------------------------ From: George Levar Subject: Cellular Service in Hungary Date: 5 Jun 1995 15:25:34 GMT Organization: Andersen Consulting I have some friends visiting the US from Hungary. They have commented how inexpensive cellular hardware is here compared to Hungary. They would like to buy a flip phone here and get service for it in Hungary. Will this work?? Does Hungary have the same type of cellular system as the US? George F. Levar george.f.levar@ac.com Andersen Consulting georgel@mailgw.doyne.edu ------------------------------ From: Dave.Leibold@superctl.tor250.org (Dave Leibold) Date: 05 Jun 95 22:59:00 -0500 Subject: Bell Canada Applied For Information Service Trial The Bell Canada Tariff Notice 5453 back in 15 March 1995 contains the proposal to test Bell's Local Information Service (LIS). Bell sought the approval to have this trial from 1 August 1995 to 31 July 1996. This market trial requires approval from the CRTC if that regulator has not ruled on this application already. Instead of the 976 or 900 numbers, there would be new #1xx# format numbers to dial (such as #123#, including the # signs). These numbers are intended for access to databases (perhaps voice, perhaps data, depends on the info provider). Customers could be billed a flat rate per call. Those wanting seven-digit numbers for this service can make use of an option that sets up a 555.xxxx number seven-digit access. The Tariff Notice states that 30 service providers plan to participate in this field trial. The numbers will be available throughout Bell Canada territory except NPA 807 and independent companies (perhaps also excluding a few exchanges not converted to DMS technology, unless Bell plans to complete its system-wide switch conversions by the time the market trial begins). Bell South and Cox are mentioned as having a similar setup in the U.S. Fidonet : Dave Leibold 1:250/730 Internet: Dave.Leibold@superctl.tor250.org ------------------------------ From: eric@tyrell.net (ERIC) Subject: LDDS Cost Information and Quality Query Organization: Tyrell Corporation - 800-TYRELL-1 - POP's in 504/816/913/316 Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 01:12:43 GMT Info I'd like to share: I just went through my phone bill, and found that LDDS would save me more than 50% off my Sprint long distance bill. For interstate calls, LDDS charges $.20 per minute during peak times (8-5) and $.10 otherwise. Note the peak time of 8-5. Sprint's peak time ends at 7 pm. However, the biggest cost factor for me is the fact that there is no surcharge for the use of the LDDS phone card. Sprint charges $1 per call...and I end up paying $1 each for a lot of one minute calls (for reaching an answering machine, generally!) Info I need: So what does one get in terms of quality of connections and customer service with LDDS? Sprint is just OK for customer service (on good days!), but has great quality ... any advice would be appreciated! Eric ------------------------------ From: a10271@email.mot.com (Allan Bourque) Subject: NTI Remote Assistant Organization: Motorola Date: Mon, 05 Jun 1995 16:43:09 GMT Hi all, A few years ago, my NTI rep gave me a disk from Northern with an NTI program called Remote Assistant. This program worked along side Procomm Plus for Windows, and allowed you to highlight an error message and via a ProWin macro, copy and paste the message into a search form that would then interpret the message. I still have the program, but it is based on information from release 16, and I am running release 20. Does anyone know if NTI still supports this product, or did they ever? Thanks in advance, Allan Bourque a10271@email.mot.com ------------------------------ From: bfm@panix.com (Barry F Margolius) Subject: NYNEX CallerID Bug Date: Mon, 05 Jun 1995 16:32:32 GMT Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC I just got a flyer in the mail describing my callerid options (though I've had caller ID for a year or so). It suggested if I had any concerns about my privacy options I could call 890-1900 and the electronic operator would tell me just what restricts I had signed up for. Well the electronic operator said I was not in a caller id area! I then called from line 2 to line 1 just to verify things, and caller id worked fine. So it looks like NYNEX's automated caller id information number is broken. Hummmm. barry [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: By the way, remember the article last week about how one can call up and get the balance and payment arrangements, etc on any phone because of the lack of security? It works that way! I tried the 800 number given for NYNEX (even though I am in the Chicago area) and punched in at random a few 212, 718 and 914 numbers. It cheerfully told me how much they owed, how much their last payment was, etc. You'd think they would at least block it from outside their region. It did not even cut me off after one or two queries, but was willing to sit there and keep talkiung as long as I punched in numbers at random. What concerns me is that some people would make those inquiries in a not-so-random way. PAT] ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #268 ****************************** Received: from delta.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa04766; 6 Jun 95 4:31 EDT Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA24180 for telecomlist-outbound; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 21:27:22 -0500 Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA24171; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 21:27:19 -0500 Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 21:27:19 -0500 From: TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson) Message-Id: <199506060227.VAA24171@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #269 TELECOM Digest Mon, 5 Jun 95 21:27:00 CDT Volume 15 : Issue 269 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Book Review: "Internet Slick Tricks" by Glossbrenner (Rob Slade) Any Experience With African Telecom (Tanzania)? (John Palmer) Queueing Theory Book Wanted (Jarun Ngamvirojcharoen) USRobotics's FTP Site? Where? (Bradley Yi) INMARSAT Modems and Crypto Gear (Everett F. Batey) International Telephone Codes (Chris Hendriks) Long Distance Rate History Question (Dawn Adler) Need Help With Codaphone 4250 (Larry Rachman) Long Distance Cordless Phone Needed! (Josh Assing) Videoconferencing Experiences (Evan Rosen) ANI vs CALLER ID (Greg Tompkins) Revised Exon Amendment: ACLU Cyber-Liberties Analysis (ACLU Information) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of public service systems and networks including Compuserve and America On Line. It is also gatewayed to Usenet where it appears as the moderated newsgroup 'comp.dcom.telecom'. Subscriptions are available to qualified organizations and individual readers. Write and tell us how you qualify: * telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu * The Digest is edited, published and compilation-copyrighted by Patrick Townson of Skokie, Illinois USA. You can reach us by postal mail, fax or phone at: 9457-D Niles Center Road Skokie, IL USA 60076 Phone: 500-677-1616 Fax: 708-329-0572 ** Article submission address only: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu ** Our archives are located at lcs.mit.edu and are available by using anonymous ftp. The archives can also be accessed using our email information service. For a copy of a helpful file explaining how to use the information service, just ask. ************************************************************************* * TELECOM Digest is partially funded by a grant from the * * International Telecommunication Union (ITU) in Geneva, Switzerland * * under the aegis of its Telecom Information Exchange Services (TIES) * * project. 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Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 05 Jun 1995 12:18:29 EST From: Rob Slade Subject: Book Review: "Internet Slick Tricks" by Glossbrenner BKINTSLK.RVW 950411 "Internet Slick Tricks", Glossbrenner/Glossbrenner, 1994, 0-679-75611-6, U$16.00/C$21.95/UK#14.99 %A Alfred Glossbrenner alfred@delphi.com %A Emily Glossbrenner %C 201 E. 50th St., 31st Floor, New York, NY 10022 %D 1994 %G 0-679-75611-6 %I Random House Electronic Publishing %O U$16.00/C$21.95/UK#14.99 212-751-2600 800-733-3000 800-726-0600 %O abiggert@randomhouse.com 74261.2352@compuserve.com %P 271 %S Slick Tricks %T "Internet Slick Tricks" First of all, "Slick Tricks" is apparently a series. The intent of the series is to provide the "essence" of a given topic. In other words, this is supposed to be another beginner's guide based on "the least you need to know". Secondly, make note of chapter two, and, "The Best Tip in the Book: Get a Delphi Subscription!" Ostensibly, Delphi is being promoted because it was the first of the major commercial online services to offer a full Internet connection: i.e., ftp, telnet, email and Usenet news. (This explains why the World Wide Web only gets peripheral mention down around page 227 -- Delphi does not support dial-up IP.) Basically, there is a lot of good information here -- buried in a mass of text, some jokes, and lots and lots and lots of opinions, all organized (or, in some cases, disorganized) to present the net to you in such a manner that certain viewpoints are displayed in the most favorable light. Even knowing the material and the key words to look for, I still found reading this book and extracting the answers to be very difficult. I think it improbable that the biases in the work would exactly match those of any given reader, nor that the book's agenda would correspond to the reader's needs. copyright Robert M. Slade, 1995 BKINTSLK.RVW 950411. Distribution permitted in TELECOM Digest and associated publications. Rob Slade's book reviews are a regular feature in the Digest. Vancouver ROBERTS@decus.ca Institute for Robert_Slade@sfu.ca Research into Rob.Slade@f733.n153.z1/ User .fidonet.org Security Canada V7K 2G6 ------------------------------ From: jp@uuhare.rabbit.net (John Palmer) Subject: Any Experience With African Telecom (Tanzania)? Organization: The Rabbit Network, Mt. Clemens, MI Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 15:39:57 GMT My company is exploring the possibility of providing IP connectivity to several concerns in Tanzania (east Africa). Has anyone had any experience with Telecom in that part of the world? Is there anything we should watch out for, etc? Thanks. ------------------------------ From: jarun@netserv.chula.ac.th (Jarun Ngamvirojcharoen) Subject: Queueing Theory Book Wanted Date: 5 Jun 1995 17:49:12 GMT Organization: Chulalongkorn University Could anyone suggest to me a book about queueing theory (a good reference one)? Thanks in advance, Mr.Jarun Ngamvirojcharoen 599/171 Soi Yuedee Chan Rd. Bangkolaem Bangkok 10120 Thailand Tel. (662) 291-2871 E-mail : jarun@pioneer.netserv.chula.ac.th ------------------------------ From: bradyi@aloha.com (Bradley Yi) Subject: USRobotics's FTP Site? Where? Date: Mon, 05 Jun 1995 00:52:39 -1000 Organization: FlexNet Inc, HAWAII Does anyone know where USRobotics's FTP site is? Could you email me the FTP address? Thanks! Bradley Yi bradyi@aloha.com ------------------------------ From: efb@suned1.Nswses.Navy.Mil (Everett F Batey SysAdm) Subject: INMARSAT Modems and Crypto Gear Date: 5 Jun 1995 20:57:56 GMT Organization: NSWC PHD (NSWSES) Port Hueneme, CA, USA Looking for folks with experience in: - Using INMARSAT and similar birds for DS-0 data comms; OR - Using INMARSAT and similar birds for DS-0 data comms with encryption; OR - Folks with long distance packet protocol test info as on sending of data over 180Deg of terra firma; (eg like Hyper Protocol [Hilgreave]); OR - A better newsgroup in the common distributions (comp, sci, etc) for Satellite Communications. Thanks, /Ev/ efb@suned1.nswses.Navy.MIL efb@gcpacix.uucp efb@gcpacix.cotdazr.org efb@nosc.mil WA6CRE Gold Coast Sun Users Vta-SB-SLO DECUS gnu Opinions, MINE, NOT Uncle Sam_s | b-news postmaster xntp dns WAFFLE ------------------------------ From: Chris Hendriks <75140.2330@CompuServe.COM> Subject: International Telephone Codes Date: 05 Jun 1995 01:46:23 GMT Organization: Kaiser Aluminum Since the break-up of the old USSR, I understand that all the component states, now independent, have been assigned new international telephone dialing codes. I,m sure there exists a listing of these codes, together with the appropriate city codes ... I have been unable to find such a list. If someone would point me in the right direction, it would be greatly appreciated. Chris Hendriks 75140.2330@compuserve.com [ELECOM Digest Editor's Note: For starters, take a look at the country codes files in the Telecom Archives. Carl Moore and David Leibold have worked quite hard and diligently on these files over the past few years and we have all benefitted from their work. Actually, I am sort of ashamed the archives is a bit disorganized at present due to other very time-consuming obligations, but I intend to spend much of the day on Tuesday doing some organization there and getting the files as up to date as possible regards area codes and country codes, etc. If you would like to check out the files in the Telecom Archives you can do so using anonymous ftp lcs.mit.edu. When connected, login anonymous, then give your name@site as password. Then, 'cd telecom-archives'. On the other hand, wait a couple days and check it out later this week after I have installed several new files and gotten the code listings up to date. PAT] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Jun 1995 10:47:18 -0700 From: dadler@ix.netcom.com (Dawn Adler) Subject: Long Distance Rate History Question Pat, I would like to know how much was the average LD rate in the USA back in early 1900's to 1985? I know right now it is about as low as 11 cents and as high as 23 cents per minute. Also what is the average basic rate for a local line? Right now, in Oakland, Ca (PacBell (: $11.37, Denver, CO (USWest): $18.29, etc. How much was it in those time frame I mentioned above? I'm so interested in telecommunications especially with Area Codes, Prefixs, etc. Thanks for your time. Michael Adler Oakland, CA [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: In some possessions which belonged to my grandmother is a small (4.5" wide by about 6" long) ***handwritten*** telephone bill dated March 1, 1927 on letterhead from the Illinois Bell Telephone Company of 212 West Washington Street, Chicago 6, Illinois, Telephone OFFicial-9411. The letterhead was entitled "Invoice For Telephone Subscription" and it stated in a quite attractive style of handwriting that the monthly charge for service in advance was one dollar, eighty five cents. Since I do not know if my grandparents at that time had an extension phone or non-pub or anything that might have increased the cost of the monthly service -- and since in those days Bell did not itemize things on the bill the way they do now -- I cannot tell you what all that included. The invoice went on to include the fact that the month before they had made two Long Lines calls. One, to Whiting, Indiana was billed thirty cents for two minutes; the other to New York City, New York was billed ninety cents for three minutes. At the bottom of the bill was printed the phrase 'your account has been prepared and verified by Bookkeeper ____ (here was written in the number 397) to whom inquiries, reports of errors and requests for adjustments should be addressed at the offices of the Company.' Then below that the printed statement, 'Your account is due when tendered. Payment may be made by post with your name and telephone number clearly printed on your check, in person by visiting our Business Office, or to your telephone man, should he be visiting or working at your premises soon, or that of a neighbor.' ('Telephone man' was simply the name for a repair tech or installer -- one and the same person -- in those days.) Another bill from 1943 was on the same kind of stationary, but had been prepared by typewriter. The monthly charge that month was two dollars. There were no long distance calls on the bill. A rubber stamp message on the invoice had a picture of a very firm looking Uncle Sam with his fingers crossing his lips, and text saying: Loose Lips Sink Ships! When our operator calls you to connect your long-awaited call to a loved one overseas -- a husband, or son, or brother perhaps, please do not compromise our Nation's security by asking questions your loved ones are not permitted to answer. They'd tell you if only they were allowed to do so. And when the operator asks you to finish your conversation, please do so promptly so that others may speak to their loved ones as well. Support our men! Together we'll win! Overall, telephone rates over the years have not increased nearly as much as inflation would otherwise indicate. My understanding is that telephone rates in the very early years of this century were quite high by compari- son to the 1930-50 period when they came down a lot. Another peice of literature, apparently inserted with telephone bills in the 1942-45 era from the telephone company showed a smiling Uncle Sam and a message saying, "Say brother! Have you got a phone to spare? Since Western Electric went to war, we just can't keep up with the demand for instruments to supply to new subscribers. Please help us help your new neighbors by allowing the telephone man to remove your extension phone if you have one. That extension phone will be given to another family so they can have telephone service also. Let's work together in the War Effort. Together we'll win!" It sounds pretty unbelievable, doesn't it. PAT] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Jun 95 13:49:38 EDT From: larry.rachman@peri.com (Larry Rachman) Subject: Need Help with Codaphone 4250 I just bought a used Codaphone 4250, but when I called the Codaphone customer support line, I was disappointed to hear that they were no longer in business :-(. I bought this machine because it has the ability to flash its 'switchook' and transfer the incoming call (assuming the co/pbx supports this). If someone out there could explain how to use this feature, I'd really appreciate it! You can either email me at larryr@peri.com or, ideally, fax me the appropriate portion of the manual or quick reference card at 516-427-0656. Thanks in advance, Larry Rachman, WA2BUX larryr@peri.com -or- 74066.2004@peri.com - or - 516-427-0656 (fax) ------------------------------ From: jassing@netcom.com (Josh Assing) Subject: Long Distance Cordless Phone Needed! Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Mon, 05 Jun 1995 17:43:49 GMT I have a problem that I hope someone can help me with. I live in the middle of a 5000 acre nature preserve ... (yes it's nice) BUT: I have no phone (except for the cellular that is way too expensive, especially when I go online ...), no electricity etc. (Yes; we have hot running water and bathrooms ...) The house itself is nice; and I have 12 volts from a battery bank, and a generator that is turned on now and then. I have a neighbor about two miles away (can't see them; but I know he's there... over a hill and tress...) that will let me install a phone line from the phone company in his garage; and use his electricity to run a transmitting device so that I can get a phone ... IF I can find a solution. I would like a 'full duplex' model ... preferably so I can use my modem and an answering machine; but will live with a simple radio phone if one exists ... Requirements: It needs to ring when a call comes in (buzz, jump up and down, etc is okay too ...) I need to be able to dial out, and use DTMF tones for long distance carriers and banks ,etc ... BONUSES: use a modem with the system; be able to use call waiting; call forwarding (provided by MaBell); and use an answering machine at home. it doesn't need to be 'ultra secure' as I'm using cellular service now; and anyone can listen in on that ... Please respond to: jassing@netcom.com If you have a solution ... we're ready to pay for a good working solution; so let me know. I know at least one other house that would be interested in a similar setup. ...josh! jassing@netcom.com ------------------------------ From: erosen@ix.netcom.com (EVAN ROSEN) Subject: Videoconferencing Experiences Date: 05 Jun 1995 03:04:19 GMT Organization: Netcom I am interested in hearing about any experiences -- both good and bad -- people have had with videoconferencing. The information is for articles and presentations on videoconferencing. I'm particularly interested in applications, i.e. ways people have used videoconferencing to achieve results. Also, I'm interested in cultural issues like feeling uncomfortable on camera. This request covers desktop, roll-about and room systems. Post your thoughts here and/or mail them to erosen@ix.netcom.com ------------------------------ From: Greg Tompkins Subject: ANI vs CALLER ID Date: 05 Jun 1995 00:27:55 GMT Organization: 4-T Acres The other day, I called a company and requested information. The lady said "I have your number as [my phone number] an ANI listing". How did she do this? Is there a device that would let me do this to know who is calling? How is this different than Caller ID? Another question about ANI. I called 1-800-MY-ANI-IS with my cell phone and it gave a totally different number than what my cell number is. I tried to call the number that ANI gave me and it said "You have reached a disconnected number." Why doesn't it give my regular number? I was roaming once, and it gave me the number of the phone. GREG [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: ANI and Caller-ID are quite similar but not entirely the same. The end result is the same; the called party gets the phone number of the caller. From residence phones, for all intents and purposes the information via Caller-ID and/or ANI is one and the same. When you call an 800 number, you *cannot* withhold your number from the called party. The use of *67 is overridden by ANI delivery. Sometimes ANI is delivered after the fact -- like once a month with the phone bill -- and it can also be delivered in realtime, just like Caller-ID on display units. Most large companies get it in realtime as well as on their bill each month. Cellular phones seem to always deliver 'out of area' messages to Caller- ID boxes. Where ANI is concerned, they always seem to deliver the number of the outgoing trunk line on the cellular carrier's system rather than the actual cellphone number itself. I don't know why. When I used my cell phone to call my 800 number, the 800 ANI a month later on the bill showed a number which when traced through the Ameritech Name and Address service came back listed to something called the 'IBT Company' at a *suburban* address (even though the cell phone was a 312 number). Further checking into that address showed it was a telco central office building. Dialing the number got the message that the number was not in service for incoming calls. I don't know why they do things the way they do. PAT] ------------------------------ From: infoaclu@aclu.org (ACLU Information) Subject: Revised Exon Amendment: ACLU Cyber-Liberties Analysis Date: 05 Jun 1995 16:30:19 -0400 Organization: ACLU National Office ACLU Cyber-Liberties Analysis: Revised Exon Amendment May 25, 1995 The American Civil Liberties Union has previously expressed its strong opposition to the "Communications Decency Act," introduced by Senator Exon as S. 314 and adopted by the Senate Commerce Committee as an amendment to the Telecommunications Competition and Deregulation Act of 1995. Yesterday, we obtained a revised version of the Exon Amendment, which was apparently written by members of Senator Exon's staff in consultation with representatives of online service providers, the Department of Justice, and pro-censorship lobbying groups. The following analysis presents the ACLU's objections to the revised draft and clarifies the ACLU's continuing concern that the Exon amendment, in its existing or revised form, violates both free speech and privacy rights. I. Interactive Cyberspace Must Not Be Constricted by Old Media Models The most fundamental flaw of the revised Exon amendment is that it still wrongly attempts to force the new interactive environment of cyberspace and online services into the censorship straitjacket foisted on old media. In fact, the Exon amendment even uses as its model the most restrictive of the old media. This is wrong-headed policy. It is also a violation of the Free Speech and Privacy guarantees of the Constitution and therefore unconstitutional. The Exon amendment would make the interactive environment one of the most censored segments of communications media when logic dictates that cyberspace, with its emphasis on user-choice and user-control, should make it the least censored. At a minimum, the extremely limited rules of content-regulation for print media, and the safeguards against censorship for print materials, should be applied to online communications. The ACLU, moreover, believes that the characteristics of cyberspace, including the private and interactive nature of the communication, dictates that cyberspace should be even more free than print. We stress that there is no revision of the Exon amendment -- no tinkering of its censorship provisions -- that eliminates this problem. The Exon amendment cannot be "fixed." It must be rejected. II. The Exon Amendment Would Still Restrict Online Communications to Those Appropriate for Children Section (d) of the revised Exon amendment would still unconstitutionally restrict all online content to that which is suitable for children. Even under existing case law, non-obscene speech that is deemed "indecent" is protected by the First Amendment. _Sable Communications v. FCC_, 492 U.S. 115 (1989). The Government may only regulate indecent speech if it establishes a compelling governmental interest in the regulation AND narrowly tailors the restriction to achieve that interest. _Id._ at 125. See also _Pacifica Foundation v. FCC_, 438 U.S. 726 (1978); _Carlin Communications v. FCC_, 749 F.2d 113 (2d Cir. 1984) (Carlin I); _Carlin Communications v. FCC_, 787 F.2d 846 (2d Cir. 1986) (Carlin II); _Dial Information Services v. Thornburg_, 938 F.2d 1535 (2d Cir. 1991). Indeed, much of what consenting adults prize about some of their personal communications could well be deemed by outsiders as "indecent" if addressed to a child. The revised draft, like the original Exon amendment, is unconstitutional because requiring users and content providers to reduce their content to what is suitable for children is not the least restrictive means for protecting minors from indecent material. The "justifications" for regulation of indecency in broadcasting and telephone audiotext services do not apply to interactive communications, in which users -- including parents -- have much more control over the content of the messages they receive. We are also prepared to argue that the "justifications" asserted for censorship in any of the old media, including print, do not apply to cyberspace. III. Some Specific Problems in the Revised Exon Draft Again, the ACLU strongly believes that the anti-cyberliberty Exon amendment cannot be "fixed." It needs to be defeated. So, even if all of these specific problems were solved, the Exon amendment would still be a terrible idea. Still, it may be useful to consider briefly some of the specific problems in the revised Exon draft. *Revised section (d) outlaws the online transmission of obscene materials without defining "obscenity." Using the test for obscenity articulated in Miller v. California, 413 U.S. 1 (1973), the federal government has chosen to stage prosecutions of online obscenity cases in conservative jurisdictions in order to take advantage of more restrictive "community standards." See Thomas v. United States, U.S. Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit, No. 94-6648 and No. 94-6649. This trend poses a severe threat that online users and providers will be forced to reduce content to that which would be acceptable under the "community standards" of the most conservative jurisdiction. The ACLU has filed an amicus brief in the Thomas case strongly opposing the government's misuse of the censorship laws. *Revised sections (d) and (e) extend liability for transmission of obscene or indecent communications to non-commercial in addition to commercial providers. This change would render the revised draft more restrictive of free speech than the original Exon amendment. *While revised section (f) provides some defenses for online service providers, these defenses place smaller system operators at risk because they cannot afford to assert the defenses in court. Moreover, the defenses are incomplete and many larger service providers would likely find themselves in jeopardy at the hands of prosecutors motivated by the political advantages of currying favor with certain pro-censorship groups. *Revised section (f)(2) fails to protect providers who cede editorial control to an entity "which the defendant knows or had reason to know intends to engage in conduct that is likely to violate this section." This could pose serious problems for Internet providers that may have "reason to know" that certain sites are likely to contain communications deemed to be obscene or indecent. *Revised section (f)(3) gives the Federal Communications Commission the power to issue regulations regarding methods in which providers may restrict access in order to avoid liability. Giving federal regulators the authority to determine the rules for distributing online content will radically affect the freedom of cyberspace and will have a severe direct effect and an equally severe chilling effect on online speech. *Revised section (f)(4) could still make it impossible for users or content providers to remedy a violation of rights by an online service provider if the service claimed it was attempting to comply with the Exon amendment. Conclusion The revised Exon draft continues to subject an industry that has blossomed without government control to an unprecedented amount of interference and intrusion over content. It gravely threatens the free flow of information and the diversity of content transmitted over online networks. To achieve the liberating potential of the information superhighway, Congress must ensure that interactive technologies enhance rather than stifle democratic values. The American Civil Liberties Union therefore opposes the Exon amendment, both in its original form and as revised. ACLU Free Reading Room | American Civil Liberties Union gopher://aclu.org:6601 | 132 W. 43rd Street, NY, NY 10036 mailto:infoaclu@aclu.org| "Eternal vigilance is the ftp://ftp.pipeline.com | price of liberty" ** New ** ACLU Constitution Hall on America Online: keyword ACLU [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: We'll do that, thank you. Readers: next time you happen to run into an ACLU lawyer, smile sweetly and tell him "You know, you look so handsome, so masculine, like such a tuff dude when you are angry ... " . Quit while I'm ahead? Okay, but if they keep sending me these things, I have the choice of pitching them or passing them along, and long-time readers know I never just pass things along ... more tomorrow from the pen of yours truly. PAT] ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #269 ****************************** Received: from delta.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa17008; 6 Jun 95 16:33 EDT Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id IAA01410 for telecomlist-outbound; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 08:35:16 -0500 Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id IAA01402; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 08:35:13 -0500 Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 08:35:13 -0500 From: TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson) Message-Id: <199506061335.IAA01402@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #270 TELECOM Digest Tue, 6 Jun 95 08:35:00 CDT Volume 15 : Issue 270 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson EMI Issues With GSM (source compilation by Nathan D. Meehan) CWA Board Approves Strike Authorization at AT&T (CWA News via Nigel Allen) Strange "Crosstalk" Event on the Phone Sunday Night (Robert Casey) MCI Jobs Available (MCI Metro) Unitel of New Jersey? (Mike Wengler) Pacific Territories in NANP? (John Mayson) Convergence Research Request (TWarren519) SB/SG on Bantam Patch Panel (Peter A. Smith) Switchview and Meridian Admin Tool (yahoonca@aol.com) Home ISDN in Canada (Carsten Schafer) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of public service systems and networks including Compuserve and America On Line. It is also gatewayed to Usenet where it appears as the moderated newsgroup 'comp.dcom.telecom'. Subscriptions are available to qualified organizations and individual readers. Write and tell us how you qualify: * telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu * The Digest is edited, published and compilation-copyrighted by Patrick Townson of Skokie, Illinois USA. 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Meehan) Subject: EMI Issues With GSM With the deployment of PCS systems about to begin in the United States and Pacific Bell, BellSouth, and APC announcing the use of a European digital technology called GSM, I've read the following articles from Ericsson, text books and two issues of {PC Week} magazine which discuss an unintended side effect from GSM called EMI (electro-magnetic interference). These problems appear to have only become known after GSM systems were deployed in Europe and portable handsets were in wide use. I wonder what problems we'll see in the USA with GSM systems? Nathan Meehan z61535@uprc.com --------------- The following is a quote from a new Artech House book entitled, "An Introduction to GSM" by Siegmund H. Redl, Matthias K. Weber and Malcom W. Oliphant. Although the TDMA structure gives the system more capacity, there is a price to pay. If a mobile station transmits a burst every 4.615 ms, then the underlying frequency is 216.6 Hz (=1/4.615 ms), which is within the audible range. If, for example, a GSM mobile is operated close to a home stereo system, this frequency can be heard in the speakers. More serious is the impact on electronic devices such as hearing aids, cardiac pacemakers, or automobiles electronics. Due to the relativity high power transmitted in the GSM mobile bursts, they can have significant influence. Some car manufactures already suggest that a GSM mobile should only be used with an external antenna, because if used inside, the mobile phone may block or trigger the air bag or other important systems. Sorting out and clearing the risks and nuisances caused by GSM phones adds to the cost of designing and manufacturing them. ---------------- Risks-Forum Digest is a forum for computer and other technology-related risks. This posting is from an Ericsson engineer in Sweden which has one of the highest usages of GSM. RISKS-LIST: Risks-Forum Digest Saturday 13 May 1995 Volume 17 : Issue 12 FORUM ON RISKS TO THE PUBLIC IN COMPUTERS AND RELATED SYSTEMS (comp.risks) ACM Committee on Computers and Public Policy, Peter G. Neumann, moderator Date: Mon, 8 May 95 10:18:52 +0200 >From: Torsten.Lif@eos.ericsson.se (Torsten Lif - Cyberspace Cyclist) Subject: Cellular disturbances I have one to add to the recent article about cellular phones being banned from hospitals. A week ago, one of my fellow sysops had to reboot one of our SUN servers. He was installing some software on one server when his cellular phone rang and the console terminal (a VT220-clone) of another server started "hiccupping" badly. After he power-cycled it, the server had halted and wouldn't start without a full reboot. As he was sitting there staring at the row of consoles, his cellular phone rang (again) and another terminal crashed! This time it was sufficient to "c"ontinue the server so there was only a halt of a few seconds, but the implication is clear. We carry those cellular phones to be available quickly in case a server goes down. Instead, the phone was the cause of a crash. The new (European) digital "GSM" cellular standard produces lots of interference as can be heard on any radio or even HiFi amplifier within a few feet of a GSM phone in operation. An apparently "idle" phone next to ny critical electronic equipment is a time-bomb waiting to go off since an incoming call to it automatically triggers bursts of transmissions as the phone acknowledges the call. This means that banning the use of them may not be enough - people don't tend to think of just carrying a phone as "using" it. They must be turned OFF. As an aside, the previous (analog) cellular standards did not cause nearly as much interference despite operating in the same 900 MHz band. At the worst, they might "blank out" radio receivers momentarily but we never observed them interfering with digital equipment. Now, the European Union is pushing GSM as its sole cellular standard and is trying to force operators to phase out analog systems to provide more channels for digital. I think we've only seen the tip of this iceberg yet ... Torsten Lif, Ericsson Telecom AB Stockholm, Sweden Torsten.Lif@eos.ericsson.se -------------- Telcos: don't repeat European GSM woes PC Week v12, n18 (May 8, 1995):55. COPYRIGHT Ziff-Davis Publishing Company 1995 Europe's personal cellular systems use a signaling and modulation scheme called GSM. They are technologically advanced, but for one small problem: They can't be used by hearing-aid wearers. If hearing-aid wearers come within several feet of a GSM phone they hear a loud buzzing. If they get closer, the buzz becomes deafening, drowning out even the sound of their own voices. The problem is well-known in Europe, having been reported on the BBC and other media. With billions of dollars' worth of infrastructure in place, however, it's too late to change the technology. Modifying the hearing aids isn't a viable solution, either. With the emphasis on size, weight, and battery life, there's virtually no hope for improving the installed base. With new hearing aids the problem can be reduced, but not eliminated. Tragically, it didn't have to be a problem at all. GSM is based on a TDMA (Time Division Multiple Access) scheme that causes the cellular phone to send out a pulse of radio-frequency energy 217 times per second. That's what hearing-aid wearers hear. If the system had been built with another technology, such as CDMA (Code Division Multiple Access), or at non-udible frequencies or lower power levels, the interference would be eliminated or greatly reduced. The FCC has held its personal communications services license auctions, and U.S. telcos and wireless companies are selecting their technologies right now. The builders of European base-station equipment, giants such as Alcatel and Ericsson, would like to sell their GSM equipment here, too. GSM MoU, the oversight group for GSM vendors, has written to FCC Chairman Reed Hundt to address the concerns: "Some of the research suggests that a small percentage of all hearing-impaired persons use old, inferior-quality hearing aids and therefore may be unable to use high- power digital wireless telephones, whether they be CDMA, GSM, or AMPs-D." The letter suggests that hearing aids can be upgraded or replaced, but doesn't address the attendant cost issues. Given what we know about the potential effect of GSM on U.S. hearing- aid wearers, it's unconscionable that anyone would pursue this option. Yet BellSouth and Pacific Bell have decided to deploy GSM. I also think it's inconceivable that the FCC would let each vendor choose a different standard, yet this appears to be the case. GSM appears to have other problems. The power level, combined with the fast rise time of its pulses, has been reported to cause problems with other electronic equipment. Sweden bans the phones from its hospitals because they reportedly interfere with pacemakers and can cause electric wheelchairs to behave erratically. GSM may be a poor choice for mobile computing, too. I wonder about the potential for confusing the sensitive innards of laptop PCs. I wonder, too, if there's any chance of interference with emergency communications equipment used by public-safety officials. Why is this important? The technology decisions for the PCS infrastructure are being made now and are irrevocable once the building begins. If you're not concerned about the plight of the hearing-impaired, look at your own situation with enlightened self-interest. If you believe that GSM is not the right choice, let the FCC know at 1919 M St. NW, Room 814, Washington, D.C. 20554. ---------------------- TDMA phones a bad choice for U.S. PC Week v12, n20 (May 23, 1995) COPYRIGHT Ziff-Davis Publishing Company 1995 I've seen and heard enough to be convinced. Cellular phones based on time-division multiplexing are bad electronic citizens. I wrote about the deficiencies of Europe's GSM standard on May 8, specifically about interference with hearing aids. The problem is acute, but not limited to hearing aids. Some common consumer electronics devices are also subject to interference. I've gone into the lab with representative in-ear and behind-the-ear hearing aids. My tests were brief, but telling. In-ear devices typically amplify sound only and are aimed at people with moderate hearing losses, whereas behind-the-ear devices are larger, with more powerful amplification. Most have a switchable telecoil, which couples magnetically to telephone handsets so that the hearing-impaired can use telephones. I tested the hearing aids with a conventional analog cellular phone, 900MHz and 1,800MHz GSM phones, a U.S.-standard digital phone, and a prototype phone that uses CDMA, a low-power, spread-spectrum technology. The 900MHz GSM phone was the worst offender, causing a raucous buzz in both hearing aids. With the telecoil on, you could hear the GSM phones' 217Hz buzz from the behind-the-ear aid across the room. The analog cellular phone caused no interference. The U.S.-standard digital phone, which uses a TDMA technique known as NA- TDMA or D-AMPs, caused a strong 50Hz buzz in both hearing aids when brought within a couple of feet of the phone. The telecoil could pick up the buzz from at least 6 feet away. The CDMA phone had no discernible effect on either aid. With the telecoil on, the aid got nothing from the phone's antenna but picked up some hash from the internal microprocessor. We overrode base-station controls in order to test the phones at various power levels. The interference diminished at lower power but never disappeared. It was impossible to use a hearing aid with any of the TDMA phones at any power level. I also tested a variety of laptop computers and a camcorder with the phones. Standard notebook and subnotebook machines appear impervious, but a multimedia notebook with a speaker picked up the TDMA phones' 217Hz and 50Hz mating cries. The CDMA phone and analog phone caused no interference. The camcorder, a generation-old, top-of-the-line Sony, turned out to be very sensitive to the TDMA emissions. Just being in the same room with either of the GSM phones was enough to utterly swamp the audio circuitry. The phones interfered with the video circuitry as well, causing horizontal bars and tearing of the picture. The 900MHz phone was again the worst offender, causing almost the entire picture to blank out. The U.S. digital phone also messed up the picture and its 50Hz growl could be heard. The analog phone caused no degradation of the picture, but the camcorder's audio picked up some of the microprocessor hash from its keyboard. The CDMA phone caused no discernible interference. GSM officials have told FCC Director Reed Hundt that all portable phones, including CDMA, will cause interference, but that's not what my tests showed. GSM is a remarkable achievement of standards and technology. But it's not the best technology anymore. GSM is attractive to some U.S. providers, but we deserve better. Bill Machrone is vice president of technology for Ziff-Davis Publishing Co. He can be reached at wmachrone (MCI Mail) or 72241,15 (CompuServe). Bill Machrone, PC Week ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 01:48:36 -0400 From: ndallen@io.org (Nigel Allen) Subject: CWA Board Approves Strike Authorization at AT&T Here is a press release from the Communications Workers of America. I downloaded the press release from the U.S. Newswire BBS in Maryland at (410) 363-0834. I do not work for or belong to the CWA. CWA Board Approves Strike Authorization at AT&T; Decision Will be up to President Morton Bahr Contact: Jeffery Miller of the Communications Workers of America, 202-434-1163 WASHINGTON, June 5 -- President Morton Bahr of the Communications Workers of America today asked and received authorization from CWA's executive board to call a strike by the union's 90,000 members at AT&T. Bahr said he will assess the need for possible strike action after contract negotiations resume tomorrow. "It will take substantial progress on some key issues before any settlement is possible," he stated. CWA members at AT&T already have given strike approval to union leaders by a vote of more than 95 percent, and today's action allows Bahr to call for a walkout at any time. The current union contract between AT&T, CWA and the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers expired on May 27, but the contract has been extended while day and night bargaining sessions have taken place ever since. However, over this past weekend, "progress was minimal at best," said CWA's chief negotiator James Irvine. "We're still so far apart on wages and pensions that it looks like AT&T wants to test the resolve and determination of our members to win a fair settlement." The talks were recessed at 5 p.m. Sunday and the parties expect to get back together tomorrow morning. Irvine said other unresolved issues include company subcontracting of work, transfer rights to non-union job areas at AT&T, union organizing rights at subsidiaries and retiree health care. "AT&T has been investing tens of billions of dollars in new business enterprises, but they refuse to invest in the employees who created the corporation's vast wealth," Irvine stated, noting that AT&T earned a record $4.7 billion net profit in 1994. They're nickel and diming active workers and even proposing to pick the pockets of retired employees on fixed incomes," he said. -------------------- Press release forwarded to the TELECOM Digest by Nigel Allen 52 Manchester Avenue, Toronto, Ontario M6G 1V3, Canada Internet: ndallen@io.org http://www.io.org/~ndallen Telephone: (416) 535-8916 ------------------------------ From: wa2ise@netcom.com (Robert Casey) Subject: Strange "Crosstalk" Event on the Phone Sunday Night Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest) Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 04:01:36 GMT Had an unusual "crosstalk" incident happen last night (Sunday 6-4, around 10:30PM) When calling a friend. I'm at 201-261-xxxx, friend is at 212-316-xxxx, AT&T long distance company. Called friend, his mom answers, says "Dave's not home now, ..." and we terminate the conversation and she hangs up first, THEN, I suddenly hear, about at least 3dB higher, one side of some other random phone conversation (i.e., I hear only one of the two (supposed) parties). This lasts for about a minute, then it suddenly cuts out (they didn't end their conversation, maybe something in the phone system noticed this error and cleared it?). Any idea what might have caused this? I'm sure nothing in my home (plane ordinary telephone service without any bells-and-whissles, old Ma Bell touch-tone and rotary phones) could cause this. And the computer with internal Zoom modem was turned off. ------------------------------ From: MCI Metro <2015429@mcimail.com> Subject: MCI Jobs Available Date: 5 Jun 1995 14:34:46 GMT Organization: News & Observer Public Access MCI Network Services is currently looking for qualified applicants to fill Mid to Senior level engineering positions in it's Global Network Operations organization. These positions are set in a Network Management Center environment supporting MCIs Customer Networks. Applicants must have hands on experience with one or more of the following: *Newbridge 3600/3645 Multiplexors *IDNX 90,70,20's *Ericsson MD110 Switch *Wellfleet Routers / Configuration *Cisco Routers / Configuration *Dec Routers / Configuration *Remote testing *Digital/Analog Data products *Siemens EWSD Switch *Protocols (TCP/IP, IPX) Requirements: Bachelor's degree in engineering, or Computer Science, and four to seven years experience in a highly technical test, development or design engineering activity. Requires interpersonal and writing skills. Positions are available in Cary, NC., Trumbull, Ct., and Rockville, MD. Please e-mail your resume to: -----2015429@mcimail.com----- or you can snail mail your applications to: MCI / GNMC 7000 Weston Parkway Cary, NC 27513 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 11:36:14 -0500 From: wengler@ee.rochester.edu (Mike Wengler) Subject: Unitel of New Jersey? I have just signed an Agency agreement with Unitel of River Edge, New Jersey. Like any good salesperson, I wanted to know as much as I could about this company, so I searched the Telecom Archives for 'Unitel'. I'll give you the punchline up front: after reading megabytes of archives, I called 'my' Unitel this morning, and they say they have NO CONNECTION to the Unitel offering Long Distance up in Canada! (Which is the only Unitel that I read about in these archives.) So now I know a whole lot more about the Canadian long distance market from reading the archives, but I know NOTHING about the company I've signed up with. Anybody know anything about Unitel of 1060 Main St, PO Box 4367, River Edge NJ 07661-4367? On the phone, they told me they resell 'Totaltel' long distance on the East coast. Telecom archives return nothing searching totaltel. Anybody know anything about this? Thanks for any help in advance! Mike Wengler For PGP, research plans, & more information, see web pages starting with: http://www.ceas.rochester.edu:8080/ee/users/wengler/home.html Electrical Engineering Department Voice: 716 275-9402 University of Rochester Fax : 716 473-0486 Rochester NY 14627 Mobile: 716 748-1930 ------------------------------ From: jmayson@p100dl.ess.harris.com (John Mayson) Subject: Pacific Territories in NANP? Date: Mon, 5 Jun 95 12:34:17 EDT Over the past few of weeks I've seen two telephone numbers for resorts in the Northern Mariana Islands. Both listed the numbers as (670) NXX-XXXX. Yet when referring to, say, a number in the U.K., they printed 011 44 ... Have the USA's Pacific territories been brought into the NANP? 670 is the country code for the NMI's, BTW. John Mayson (MS 100/2243) Senior Engineer Harris Electronic Systems Sector PO Box 99000, Melbourne FL USA 32902 Voice (407) 727-6389 | Fax (407) 729-3801 | Pager (407) 635-3606 internet john.mayson@harris.com | http://p100dl.ess.harris.com [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I keep hearing that Guam, etc are supposed to be changed -- technically at least -- from being 'international' in the sense of 011 to reach them to being part of country code 1, meaning they would be dialable like any other area code. I just now tried 1-670-xxx-xxxx and 1-671-xxx-xxxx. Neither would complete. Of course I know they will complete with 011 instead, so I did not try them that way. It would be helpful to find out *where* the literature you were seeing had been edited and published. I'll bet it was published in NMI, which could account for the way the number appeared in print, with the writer of the advertisement thinking to himself 'of course we don't use 011 when calling among ourselves.' It would be the same kind of thinking which prompts USA companies to advertise in publications in the UK for example, using only a non-dialable 800 number as their contact, or possibly to use an area code and number without the leading '1' as our country code. That being said, I still have heard that Guam, NMI, Saipan, etc are supposed to 'soon' have their country codes changes to USA area codes. And don't forget 808: formerly just Hawaii, it now takes in Midway Island in the South Pacific as well. PAT] ------------------------------ From: twarren519@aol.com (TWarren519) Subject: Convergence Research Request Date: 5 Jun 1995 10:12:06 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Reply-To: twarren519@aol.com (TWarren519) Does anyone know where I can find information on the 'net regarding convergence, deregulation, and other market aspects of european telephony? Please respond to tom.warren@ps.net ------------------------------ From: PA.Smith@mtsat.telesat.ca (Smith, Peter A.) Organization: Telesat Canada Date: Mon, 05 Jun 1995 11:12:13 EST Subject: SB/SG on Bantam Patch Panel My application involves taking eight wire audio circuits (4W E&M Type II) from an AMP connector through an audio patch panel to my communications equipment. The telco is placing SG on the 4th pair Tip conductor, however, the test set manufacturers are placing SB on the Tip of their test sets (bantam or 310 jacks). Can anyone tell my why the "difference"? Is it a voltage issue with respect to monitoring circuits? I have no problem rolling over the fourth pair of each circuit, but I was just wondering if there was a reason. Thanks in advance, Peter Smith PA.Smith@Telesat.ca ------------------------------ From: yahoonca@aol.com (Yahoo n CA) Subject: Switchview and Meridian Admin Tool Date: 5 Jun 1995 20:53:43 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Reply-To: yahoonca@aol.com (Yahoo n CA) Has anyone had any experience with either Switchview or the Meridian Administration Tool? Both are software programs that allow system administrators to program features (call forwarding, call pick up, x-fer) on phones off of an SL-1. These front end programs are Windows based and provides point and click programming as oppsoed to the arcane switch programing "load" language used by Northern and other techie types. Please describe your experience and support by Switchview and Northern Telcom (Nortel), respectively for each product. In a nutshell: does it work as promised? Is it work the effort? Is it buggy? ------------------------------ From: cschafer@barint.on.ca (Carsten Schafer) Subject: Home ISDN in Canada Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 21:22:13 Organization: Barrie Internet My mouth has been watering a while for ISDN at home. Is there anybody who is successfully using Bell's ISDN services at home? How expensive is it? Do you have problems obtaining drivers for Windows NT? Carsten Schafer cschafer@barint.on.ca carsten@software.group.com http://www.group.com/cs.html ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #270 ****************************** Received: from delta.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa01693; 7 Jun 95 2:08 EDT Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id TAA18905 for telecomlist-outbound; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 19:35:42 -0500 Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id TAA18896; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 19:35:40 -0500 Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 19:35:40 -0500 From: TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson) Message-Id: <199506070035.TAA18896@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #271 TELECOM Digest Tue, 6 Jun 95 19:35:30 CDT Volume 15 : Issue 271 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Re: Plan to Abolish FCC (Bill Seward) Re: Plan to Abolish FCC (Dave Levenson) Re: Plan to Abolish FCC (Paul J. Zawada) Re: Auction All the Spectrum (Scott Townley) Re: ALI From Centrex With Many Locations (Tom Steegmann) Re: ALI From Centrex With Many Locations (Mike Wilcox) Re: Oppose Mandatory Touch-Tone $ervice - Your Action Needed (D. O'Heare) Re: Telecom History (Mark J. Cuccia) Re: Telecom History (Dave Levenson) Re: I Just Bought a CT2 Phone and I Love It (Dave Johnson) Re: Meridian SL1 - Information Pointers? (Dave Johnson) What is: Infotron Supermux 632 (Scott A. McMullan) Telnet to Dialout Modem? (Harold Hallikainen) Rate of Allocation / Assignment of Area Codes (NPAs) (Ram Chamarthy) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of public service systems and networks including Compuserve and America On Line. It is also gatewayed to Usenet where it appears as the moderated newsgroup 'comp.dcom.telecom'. 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Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: wjs@nr.infi.net Date: Tue, 6 Jun 95 20:08:17 EDT Subject: Re: Plan to Abolish FCC > The Progress and Freedom Foundation in Washington has > released its plan to abolish the Federal Communications Commission. > * Any spectrum that has more than one claimant would be auctioned > within 180 days. Government would establish standardized spectrum > parcels for auction. Oh wonderful. Rupert Murdoch would own most of the broadcast spectrum, and public tv and radio would probably disappear. Along with most independent tv and radio stations. < more snip> > * All restrictions on use of spectrum would be eliminated. Those who > win title could develop and/or re-sell the spectrum subject to > antitrust review and geographic and interference boundaries; however, > legislation would not set forth interference rights in detail. OK, DOJ would do the antitrust review, but who does the gepgraphic and indterference boundaries? Remember, the FCC is long gone. I guess we duke it out in the courts? Like they aren't clogged already. > * Complaint investigation and answering of general inquiries from the > public discontinued. So I guess if one of my ridge-runner neighbors decides that he needs a 10 kw booster for his CB, I have to get a lawyer and sue him? Or should I just put up with the plumbing picking up his signal. Sorry if I sould overly sarcastic. I get annoyed with the FCC at times. But this is throwing out the baby with the bathwater. Let's treat the patient and get him better, not sumarily execute him. Bill Seward wjs@nr.infi.net ------------------------------ From: dave@westmark.com (Dave Levenson) Subject: Re: Plan to Abolish FCC Organization: Westmark, Inc. Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 01:48:30 GMT Bennett Z. Kobb (bkobb@newsignals.com) writes: > * Unless Congress acts to preserve regulations, all FCC rules and > regulations will be rescinded in three years. ... > * All restrictions on use of spectrum would be eliminated. Those who ... > * Department of Justice would confiscate any devices used in violation > of communications rules. Perhaps I don't understand what this means. All rules and regulations will be rescinded, and the DOJ will enforce these non-existent rules by confiscating devices? Aside from the semantic questions in this logic, won't the DOJ have to create a special commission which includes technical specialists and standards definition specialists to accomplish this mission? Perhaps it will. Let's think up a name for this body... I know, let's call it the Federal Communications Commission! The more things change ... Dave Levenson Internet: dave@westmark.com Westmark, Inc. UUCP: uunet!westmark!dave Stirling, NJ, USA Voice: 908 647 0900 Fax: 908 647 6857 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 12:15:11 -0500 From: Paul J Zawada Subject: Re: Plan to Abolish FCC > Highlights from the "comprehensive plan" of particular interest > to wireless users: There is clearly not enough "meat" here to accurately comment on this proposal. I fear my comments are going to be met by, "OH, but in section XXX of our plan we propose to..." Can we have a pointer to the entire proposal? Even though I believe my comments are going to be met with "sudden" answers from this quasi-existant proposal, I will comment on what's here ... (I've regrouped parts of the proposal in order to comment on related subjects.) > * Unless Congress acts to preserve regulations, all FCC rules and > regulations will be rescinded in three years. > * Department of Justice would confiscate any devices used in violation > of communications rules. > * Complaint investigation and answering of general inquiries from the > public discontinued. This is wonderful, especially the last part. You say the DoJ will take care of the violators, but the public won't be able to report anyone? What would I do if a radio station a block away from my house upped their power to a jillion watts (by way of the elimination of regs and restrictions on use policy (below)) and was received by my radio no matter where the radio is tuned. (..or if it was received in my plumbing, for that matter...) I can't complain about it? More importantly, what happens like when a cable operator starts leaking their signal into the aircraft band endangering lives of air passengers? The DoJ is just going to some how know about it without receiving complaints about it from the public? It seems the whole idea of "answering of general inquiries from the public discontinued" seems contratry to the whole basis of "government by the people" that the US' government it built on! > * Immediate repeal of all FCC licensing authority. > * Deeds recorded in a central Spectrum Registry File. What exactly is the difference between a "deed" and a "license". Does taking away the FCC's licensing ability and giving some other government body "deeding" ability change anything? The FCC is actually quite efficent these days in granting licenses. I don't see why you need to take that funtion away from them (or not give them "deeding" authority ...) > * All current FCC license holders would receive property rights in the > spectrum, enforced by the trespass laws. > * Any spectrum that has more than one claimant would be auctioned > within 180 days. Government would establish standardized spectrum > parcels for auction. What do you do about Part 15 (unlicensed) and Part 97 (Amateur Radio) allocations? Do these bands become a free-for-all? Will I have to start bidding against my neighbors to get frequencies for my cordless phone? Will I have to give up my Ham Radio hobby since hams won't be able to compete against big business who want our spectrum? (We've already lost spectrum to big business -- opening things up this way would certainly put an end to Ham Radio above 30 MHz.) > * Government agencies must "disgorge" their unused spectrum within > a determined timeframe. Do local and state government get to keep their allocations? Or will my local police and fire deptartments have to end up buying their spectrum from Motorola/General Electric/Johnson? > * All restrictions on use of spectrum would be eliminated. Those who > win title could develop and/or re-sell the spectrum subject to > antitrust review and geographic and interference boundaries; however, > legislation would not set forth interference rights in detail. It sounds like big-business would win this hands down every time. Antitrust may keep on big company from stepping on the little guy, but industries with lots of money (can you say "telecom") will be able to get whatever spectrum they want in order to resell it to the general public. This proposal doesn't address how to deal with International Agreements (which are mainly concerned with shortwave operation under 30 MHz). What do we do about that. I'm also interested in the non-wireless ascpects of this proposal. How are wireline carriers going to be regulated if the FCC is eliminated? Frankly, I think this whole proposal is half-baked and not thought out at all. (Actually it sounds like its written by someone who has a really big axe to grind with the FCC.) I don't think the idea of renovating the FCC is totally bad but I think this proposal has a long way to go before it will be serious. If you can prove me wrong and show me the whole proposal, that would be great! (Forgive me PAT, but I think you've posted one huge piece of flame-bait.) Paul J. Zawada Sr. Network Engineeer zawada@ncsa.uiuc.edu National Center for Supercomputing Applications +1 217 244 4728 http://www.ncsa.uiuc.edu/People/zawada ------------------------------ From: nx7u@primenet.com (Scott Townley) Subject: Re: Auction All the Spectrum Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 13:12:03 MST Organization: Primenet In article mkuras@ccs.neu.edu (Michael J Kuras) writes: > I found this related article in the WSJ: > SPECTRUM AUCTION PLANS MAY ACCELERATE > House Republicans are considering a Congressional Budget Office > recommendation to auction television broadcasters' existing analog > channel spectrum seven years from now as part of a plan to balance the > budget by 2002. By that time, they hope that most broadcasters will > have moved over to new digital-broadcasting channels. Current FCC > plans provide broadcasters the new digital channels for free, allow > them to use both digital and analog channels for 15 years, after which > time the analog channel spectrum will be returned to the government. > Speeding the auction process up, although onerous to the broadcasting > community, would still be less drastic than another suggested > alternative, which would force broadcasters to pay billions for the > digital channels in the first place. (Wall Street Journal 5/24/95 B8) Here's a thought ... at least the HDTV vendors will now have a completely captive market. Hell, NTSC had to be compatible with B+W so as not to require all to purchase new receivers, but now ... guaranteed sales, and up front, too, if you want your MTV (or whatever else). scott townley nx7u@primenet.com ------------------------------ From: steegman@angel.heaven.com Date: Tue, 06 Jun 1995 14:56:56 -0800 Subject: Re: ALI From Centrex With Many Locations > Maybe some readers with E911 experience will write in to tell how they > deal with oddities such as you describe. One of the reasons I have not > bothered with CID Name and Number (we can now get this enhanced service > if we buy new Caller ID boxes) is that a friend who has it says there > is little consistency in how the listings come through. Residences are > almost always consistently correct, but the large companies with DID, > Centrex, humongous PBX's and other specialized arrangements are likely > to come through with the 'name' given as whatever someone punched in > when the order was being installed, if they bothered to punch in anything > at all. In a few cases here, entire prefixes although working show up as > 'no information listed' when you try to cross-check through the Name and > Address service. And my friend with CID Name and Number service says > in the case of large companies calling him, quite often the number will be > displayed as one of the lines used for outgoing calls with the 'name' > given as 'Unknown' or 'Not Listed' -- not to be confused with non-pub > numbers which are not listed with directory assistance but do show up > with name and number via Caller-ID. PAT] What your friend told you is correct. Residences, for the most part are correct in the NYNEX E911 database maintained in Syracuse, NY. On the other hand, any large business is bound to be screwed up. This is a big problem here. We have General Electric at several locations, with 12 or 15 thousand employees, most of them with phones. We also have many other plants and campuses with outdated phone equipment that returns all sorts of garbage in the ALI E911 database. Another problem we recently came accross, which I hope is specific to NYNEX (wouldnt surprise me) is that anywhere you have more than one payphones owned on a single account (GE, or some of the hospitals here are good examples), the ALI will never be correct. Any time a service change is performed on ONE of the phones, the ALI information (for my purposes the address and Emergency Service Zone numer) for ALL of the phones on that account are mass updated. This is just plain wrong. Nobody in NYNEX has offered us a satisfactory explination as to why this happens, or how to stop it, but if it is a big problem in a small town like Schenectady, it must be a real pain elsewhere. Is this a problem elsewhere? If so, have any of you dealt with it? (turning off the ALI screen, as NYNEX suggests, is not dealing with it). Once again, thanks for any help. From my original posting, I received some very useful suggestions. Tom Steegmann Schenectady County E911 steegman@tomcindy.rotterdam.ny.us ------------------------------ From: Mike_Wilcox Subject: Re: ALI From Centrex With Many Locations Date: 6 Jun 1995 01:57:42 GMT Organization: Intel Corporation, Folsom CA, USA We have an AT&T G3r PBX and are installing 13 ISDN PRI T1s to handle our local traffic. Pac*Bell is starting trials of a new service that will allow us to send calling station ID down the PRI to E911. We are responsible for updating the E911 database as we add, move, and change stations. We should be up in the October timeframe. Let me know if I can help further. Mike Wilcox mwilcox@pcocd2.fm.intel.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 13:37:02 +0000 From: bj059@freenet.carleton.ca Subject: Re: Oppose Mandatory Touch-Tone $ervice - Your Action Needed Reply-To: bj059@freenet.carleton.ca Organization: Northern Telecom In article , tony@nexus.yorku.ca (Anthony Wallis) wrote: > In can.general, Lester Hiraki complains about and opposes : >> .. decisions by the Canadian Radio-television and >> Telecommunications Commission (CRTC) .. have allowed telephone >> companies to make touch-tone service mandatory. .. The problem here is that the CRTC has allowed Bell Canada to make tone dialing mandatory for all service changes. If you move, change numbers, add a new line, whatever, the new service *must be* tone dial. The subscriber has no choice. The problem here is that Bell charges *extra* for tone dialing, not less. Yep, there's a surcharge on tone dial lines, even though, in theory, it costs them less to provide. Disclaimer: I work for Northern Telecom. The above statements, of course, do not necessarily reflect the opinions of my employer or associates. David O'Heare +1 613 765 3478 (W) +1 613 729 4830 (H) email: bj059@freenet.carleton.ca ------------------------------ From: Mark J. Cuccia Subject: Re: Telecom History Date: 06 Jun 1995 21:07:22 GMT Organization: Tulane University A picture of the 'golden' statue appeared on an AT&T publication on telecomm.history about 10 years ago, 'Events in Telecommunications History'. This book originally was published probably in the late 1950's as 'Events in Telephone History' and I think that there are still recent editions/revisions (like a 1993 edition); AT&T still used the statue logo in the 'masthead'/table of contents of "Bell Telephone Magazine" in the early 1960's issues. As for the 'circle' I think that had an older more realisitc looking Bell with the words Bell System, each word on different line ('Bell' over 'System'), with an outer circle - the inscription between the concentric circles - American Telephone & Telegraph Company written clockwise on the top half and 'And Associated Companies' written counterclockwise along the bottom half. These inscriptions were discontinued around 1964. The present Bell logo came into use around 1969. In the 30's and earlier, the Bell in the circles, still more realistic, was more rounded than the 1950's/60's. In the teens' and probably earlier, the words 'Bell System' did not appear inside the Bell, but 'Local and Long Distance Telephone' - Bell and AT&T inscriptions usually appeard near the 'Bell'. I'm writing from memory (Not that I was around back then -- I'm only 34 -- but I've seen these logos many times over in my reading and research), but someone else who has these logos in front of them might give a better description. MARK ------------------------------ From: dave@westmark.com (Dave Levenson) Subject: Re: Telecom History Organization: Westmark, Inc. Date: Tue, 06 Jun 1995 19:35:16 GMT Greg Schumacher (gregs@world.std.com) writes: > My question is this: The frontispiece is a photo of a statue labeled > "Spirit of Communication". The statue is a winged nude male in the > classic roman style holding up 3 lightning bolts in his left hand and > holding the end of a thick cable in his right hand. This cable is > coiled around his arm and midriff providing "some" modesty. Does > anybody know the origin or location of this statue and where it is > today? I saw that statue some years ago in the lobby of the then-new AT&T Corporate Headquarters building at 550 Madison Avenue in Midtown Manhattan, New York City. This is the building designed by Phillip Johnson, and is distinct on the New York City skyline with its Chippendale roofline. The statue was moved to this building from the former AT&T HQ in downtown Manhattan. With all of the corporate down-sizing going on, I have heard that AT&T no-longer requires all of the space available in the 550 Madison building, and has has sold (or wants to sell) the building. If this happens, and if AT&T moves out, the statue is likely to be moved again. (I wonder if we'll see it one day at the AT&T Communications headquarters building, a couple of miles from here, in Basking Ridge, NJ.) Dave Levenson Internet: dave@westmark.com Westmark, Inc. UUCP: uunet!westmark!dave Stirling, NJ, USA Voice: 908 647 0900 Fax: 908 647 6857 ------------------------------ From: ag442@freenet.carleton.ca (Dave Johnson) Subject: Re: I Just Bought a CT2 Phone and I Love It Reply-To: ag442@freenet.carleton.ca (Dave Johnson) Organization: The National Capital FreeNet Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 02:57:47 GMT Eric Tholome (tholome@dialup.francenet.fr) writes: > I thought I'd let you know that I just bought a CT2 phone (digital > cordless phone) and I love it. Is it popular in the U.S.? Well Eric, not yet. Bandwidth (1.9 GHz range) was only allocated in the states a few weeks ago. The protocol to be used has not yet been determined; however, Canada's NorTel had developed the CT2+ protocol (& turned down a CT3 protocol from Ericson) about two years ago. Residential product has not been made available for sale yet, but private (campus, institutional and corporate) systems have been available & being sold since then. The protocol up here includes handoff between multiple cell sites while in motion (at walking speeds) with the same quality of signal you enjoy. The only difference is that we had allocated the mid-900's MHz bandwidth for the transmission, and that our regulatory body - the CRTC, has not yet allocated bandwidth for the public networks (although it is strongly expected that we will follow the Yanks on Frequency, and NorTel is already testing 1.9 GHz transceiver elements to work on thier existing platform). We do things a bit differently up here but the technology has been designed to ultimately integrate a portable into all functionality of a PBX or Centrex service, a future public network (like your zone-phones) and a personal transceiver for your home. The ultimate concept here is to create an environment where a single portable phone can be used at the home, in the public network, or even at your office (through your PBX, Key System or Centrex). Pretty Cool, Huh?!?! David Johnson, Account Manager, TTS Meridian Systems Inc. Wired and Wireless, Voice, Data and Image Integration. Internet @: ag442@freenet.carleton.ca Voice: (613) 860-2596 Fax: (613) 592-9684 ------------------------------ From: ag442@freenet.carleton.ca (Dave Johnson) Subject: Re: Meridian SL1 - Information Pointers? Reply-To: ag442@freenet.carleton.ca (Dave Johnson) Organization: The National Capital FreeNet Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 03:20:23 GMT Thomas P. Brisco (brisco@rab.ieee.org) writes: > I've been working with someone locally to try and get a > Fax-On-Demand system ("single call" configuration) -- and I'm > attempting to have it as closely integrated into the existing > environment as possible. > Our Meridian reps aren't making this easy. > Our tech rep indicates that our "Meridian SL1 with Option 61" > can hand off an analog line. However, I also know that we're running > some digital protocol between the PBX and our multi-line sets. When I > inquire as to what this protocol is, he tells me "Its digital" (big > help). This makes me worried about his information regarding the > ability to do an analog handoff. > Additionally; I've been working with a different group here as > well and attempting to verify the configuration of the switch. The > salescritter and tech rep claim "it can't be done". We're looking for > some way to "map out" the configuration showing what calls should be > going where when (this is primarily to verify that the system is > configured the way that we believe it is.) To me, this sounds like a > relatively straight-foward graphing problem. The tough part is > getting the configuration data off the blasted machine. Again, the > critters we have servicing us indicate that this is some hugely > complex task -- which (frankly) I just don't believe. There's backups > -- but it's on some seriously screwy *4MB* (yes, 4MB) 3.25" floppy. > I'd be interested also in finding out where I could get one of these > drives. Well it can be done, and actually I too am a sales critter. There are a few methods: 1. Upgrade your Option 61 software (if not current) to accomodate the most recent version (9) of Meridian Mail (voice mail platform). The release 9 has an inherent fax on demand capability using the processor as a server and its associated HD to spool. You can also tack voice forms onto this voice mail platform. The proprietary voice card of Meridian Mail performs the interactive voice prompting for the document to fax back. 2. You can run some of the NorTel IVR products through your switch and integrate totally, as well as offer a platform from which you can automate many other inbound voice transactions. 3. You can run either a fax on demand box or IVR system off of an anologue line connected to your PBX. This doesn't integrate very completely though. David Johnson, Account Manager, TTS Meridian Systems Inc. Wired and Wireless, Voice, Data and Image Integration. Internet @: ag442@freenet.carleton.ca Voice: (613) 860-2596 Fax: (613) 592-9684 ------------------------------ From: mcmullan@pogo.den.mmc.com (Scott A. McMullan) Subject: What is: Infotron Supermux 632 Organization: Martin Marietta Astronautics, Denver Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 19:08:20 GMT I was poking around at a surplus sale, and one lot contained three of the above-mentioned "Infotron Supermux 632" boxes. Anyone know if these are worth anything to anyone? There were other items in the lot that interested me, but I wouldn't know what to do with these. Each one appeared to contain 8 "channel" cards, and one "system" card, with a mess of what looked like serial ports on the back. Any information appreciated. If you're interested in buying these, let me know, and I'll put in a higher bid for the lot. Condition unknown, although they seem to be physically undamaged. ------------------------------ From: hhallika@slonet.org (Harold Hallikainen) Subject: Telnet to Dialout modem? Date: 6 Jun 1995 17:01:07 -0700 Organization: SLONET Regional Information Access Years ago i recall seening some postings indicating there were dialout modems on some systems that were available for local dialout use. WWW and Archie searches last night showed only a system in West Virginia with dial-out modems. Meanwhile, I spent several hours on the phone last night sending data with an average throughput of 300 bps or lower half way across the country, debugging a system we have in Nebraska. So ... are there some net accessible dialout modems out there? Anyone have a list? Thanks! Harold Hallikainen email hhallika@slonet.org Hallikainen & Friends www http://slonet.org/~hhallika/ 141 Suburban Road, Building E4 phone +1 805 541 0200 San Luis Obispo, CA 93401-7590 fax +1 805 541 0201 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jun 95 11:41 EST From: Ram Chamarthy <0006600194@mcimail.com> Subject: Rate of Allocation / Assignment of Area Codes (NPAs) I need to know the current rate and the projected rate for the next 1/2/3 years at which the Area Codes (NPAs) are being /will be assigned/allocated in the North American Numbering Plan (NANP). Similarly, is it possible to get any information publicly (because it may be considered confidential) related to the projected growth rate of new exchanges (for each of the LECs) that would deplete the NXX/XXX part of the NANP. Thanks in advance. 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Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: flextel@gold.net Subject: FlexTel: Personal Telephone numbers Date: 6 Jun 1995 22:21:46 GMT Organization: 700 Telecommunications [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: The following, although an openly commercial message, was of interest to me since it seems that now the rest of the world is going to begin copying AT&T's concept of 500 service. If any of our UK readers decide to try this, a followup and review of the service will be most welcome here. PAT] ----------------------------- <> : Telephone numbers for life (UK) STOP PRESS: 7th June 1995: FleXtel launch new '07' numbers in the United Kingdom. FleXtel Personal Telephone Numbers are the unique, cost effective, 'follow-me' telephone service for your business or personal life with 'free call diversion'. 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Under the agreement, Telebit will supply Telebit(r) FastBlazer(tm) 8840 modems to Sprint for use in data networks servicing 70 countries across six continents over which products from Microsoft and other corporations will be marketed and supported. This agreement extends a five-year business relationship between the two companies under which Telebit supplies its remote network access system products -- high-speed modems, dial-up routers and network management software -- to Sprint for international and domestic data services. "A data network of this scope calls for superior technology and high reliability in order to successfully manage massive amounts of data across international sites," said Susan Williams, vice president of international network solutions at Sprint International, Sprint's global telecommunications subsidiary. "We've found Telebit to be an outstanding source of high-speed, reliable modems, assuring optimum service and support to our customers." "This agreement points out the growing importance of remote network access systems in today's business environment," said James D. Norrod, president and CEO of Telebit. "With this agreement, Sprint has again asserted its role as a global data communications leader by offering seamless services using advanced remote network access system products to facilitate electronic commerce. Moreover, we believe this network will provide a highly efficient method for Sprint customers to sell, distribute and support their products and services." The FastBlazer 8840's data rates are among the highest in the industry, up to 115.2 kilobytes per second with compression. Available in both rack-mount and standalone configurations, the V.34-standard modem provides users with maximum flexibility in data network design. The FastBlazer 8840 adheres to worldwide government and industry data communications standards, helping companies like Sprint in their rapid deployment of data services. Telebit Corporation is a global market leader in developing and manufacturing on-demand, remote-access solutions for multi-platform computer networks. The company's dial-up routers and modems are especially well-matched to five key market segments: telecommuting, business-to-business on-demand routers, nomadic computing, network access providers, and industrial WANs. Founded in 1982, Telebit invented dial-up routing with the original NetBlazer(r) router, opening the door to on-demand remote access. The NetBlazer family and Telebit's broad line of high-speed modems are used by Fortune 1000 customers worldwide for financial, industrial, medical, retail, government, and academic applications. The company has offices in the United States, Europe and Asia, and markets its products worldwide through value-added resellers, wholesale distributors and OEMs. Sprint Corporation is a diversified international telecommunications company with more than $12.6 billion in annual revenues, and the United States' only nationwide all-digital, fiber-optic network. Its divisions provide global long-distance voice, data and video products and services; local telephone services to more than 64 million subscriber lines in 19 states; and cellular operations serving more than one million customers in nearly 100 cities in 14 states. Telebit and NetBlazer are registered trademarks and FastBlazer is a trademark of Telebit Corporation. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 15:41:23 -0400 From: jherbert@ari.net (Jim Herbert) Subject: ITCA Convention ITCA '95, Beyond Convergence: Applications for an Interactive Age is sponsored by the International Teleconferencing Association, and is taking place June 11 through 16, 1995 at the Sheraton Washington Hotel. Of general interest will be over 80 educational presentations on Desktop Videoconferencing and Collaboration, Distance Education, Telecommuting, Multimedia, and Telemedicine tracks. Also, the convention hosts the largest exhibition demonstrating telemedia applications on the east coast, open to the public June 13-16. A pre-convention forum entirely on desktop videoconferencing and collaboration takes place June 11-12. During the convention, keynote presentations will include CNN's Larry King interviewing Senators Pressler and Hollings, and Representative Schroeder, on June 16; Bell Atlantic's Vice Chairman Jim Cullen on June 14; TeleSpan's Elliot Gold interviewing Dow Jones News Retrieval's Marty Shanker, AT&T Teleconference's Carol Pasavante, and VSI's Dick Snelling, on June 15. A special videoconference with South African President Nelson Mandela, South African Minister of Education S.M.E. Bengu, and Mexican Trade Commissioner Sergio Hidalgo discussing how interactive and collaborative technologies can be used to best advantage for trade and education in developing countries, on June 15. For detailed agenda and registration information, dial the ITCA Fax-on-Demand server at 800-891-8633. Jim Herbert Association Management Bureau 1650 Tysons Boulevard, Suite 200 McLean VA 22102 ------------------------------ From: prichard@dseg.ti.com (John Prichard) Subject: I Need Ideas For "Quiet" Inter-Canoe-Communications Date: Tue, 06 Jun 1995 15:37:49 GMT Organization: Texas Instruments Reply-To: prichard@dseg.ti.com I need some ideas for "quiet" communications for inter and intra-canoe communications. The Heard Museum in McKinney,Tx has recently started a "wetlands" trail tour but hasn't decided how to communicate quietly from the trail guide to the other boaters. The whole wetlands tour is brand-new but what they have in mind is to have three or four canoes in the water with two people per canoe. However the people have to be able to ask questions and listen to the trail guide. It would have to be lightweight because they have to portage across a couple levees. I was thinking about those tour (motor)cyclist that use some communication. I think it has to be electronic and has to be a headset/microphone but I would like lots of ideas to think about. The reason I think it has to be a headset or earphone arrangement is so the incoming voice signal doesn't scare/disturb the wildlife (have you ever heard the walkie/talkies when accidently turned up loud?). I don't exactly know what their operating budget is but considering they use volunteers for most everything I am sure it isn't much. Unfortunately, I don't think they can go out and buy 900Mhz phones. John Prichard prich@ti.com prich@metronet.com ------------------------------ From: Dana_Lashway Date: 6 Jun 95 18:35:42 EDT Subject: NMS VOX File Format Well, I guess that I should check the Internet more frequently. 1] NMS Vox File Format is hardly proprietary, and we'll be happy to send you a copy. Its pretty straight forward. Please call 508/650-1333 and ask Marty for what you need. 2] The creators of ME/2 and VScript were disturbed to hear that they had left NMS. They are about 50 feet from me now, busy on future products. The person who designed the VBX-400 just walked by. 3] Our voice compression schemes are "proprietary". We adopted one of the pre-G.726 proposals (there were no adopted standards yet at that time and we had to get to market) and have stayed with it. Our competitors chose a different pre-G.726 proposal, so the compression schemes are not compatible and hence compressed speech files are not interchangable. I hope that this helps. Feel free to contact us if you have more questions! ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #272 ****************************** Received: from ns1.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa12415; 7 Jun 95 8:44 EDT Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA24136 for telecomlist-outbound; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 23:55:20 -0500 Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA24128; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 23:55:18 -0500 Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 23:55:18 -0500 From: TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson) Message-Id: <199506070455.XAA24128@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #273 TELECOM Digest Tue, 6 Jun 95 23:55:00 CDT Volume 15 : Issue 273 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson An Open Letter to PageAmerica (Judith Oppenheimer) Re: Any Experience With African Telecom (Tanzania)? (Peter J. Kerrigan) Telecom Managers Listserver (Paul Cook) Re: Inbound Out-of-Home-Area Cellular Calls (Philippe Ravix) Re: Inbound Out-of-Home-Area Cellular Calls (Brian Starlin) Re: I Just Bought a CT2 Phone and I Love It (Alex van Es) Re: Mike Milken - Two Trillion Dollar Opportunity by Gilder (J. Brad Hicks) Re: The PBX Owner's Lament (Eric Hunt) Re: Gate Intercom Tied to Private Phone (Steve Cogorno) Re: Gate Intercom Tied to Private Phone (Mike Morris) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of public service systems and networks including Compuserve and America On Line. It is also gatewayed to Usenet where it appears as the moderated newsgroup 'comp.dcom.telecom'. Subscriptions are available to qualified organizations and individual readers. 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I am a former PageAmerica customer, with an old NEC beeper purchased a few years back from PageAmerica. Since that time, I have used a different service on the same hardware, and am ready to change from my current service provider, a local "sleazy" retail beeper store. I looked around and found that the beeper services in my neighborhood use Motorola, and won't do a trade-in on an NEC. So I went through the Yellow Pages, and rediscovered PageAmerica. I called the PageAmerica Wall Street-area office here in New York, and spoke at length with a sales manager. During the course of our conversation, I made it clear that I was currently using the NEC hardware with another local service, and now wanted to switch service providers. To my pleasure and surprise, he responded quite enthusiastically that PageAmerica would be happy to upgrade my NEC to a newer numeric beeper. He offered me a NO-COST trade-in *AND* TRI-STATE service for ONLY $6.50 per month. And I thought, gee, these guys are brilliant. Everyone else charges for trade-ins, plus $12+ per month for tri-state reach. I thought, PageAmerica is really on the competitive edge. I couldn't get to the nearest location soon enough! But I called first -- to the Madison Avenue at 42nd Street location -- and confirmed what I'd been told by the downtown office. They added that the $6.50 price tag was conditional on a three-year contract, but everything else was exactly the same. Well, I went to the Madison Avenue location this morning, and it was another story entirely. I was (rudely) informed that, with the trade-in, my cost for a new beeper (similarly numeric) would be $50. What happened to the NO-COST TRADE IN? I explained repeatedly what I'd been told over the phone. They told me it just didn't matter. Now, this is New York. I encounter over-zealous selling -- bait and switch -- and bad attitudes -- every day. And it's only $50. But I do not do business that way. Is there a PageAmerica exec out there who's willing back up their employee's commitment to trade in and upgrade my NEC beeper at NO-COST? I can be reached at 212 684-7210, or producer@pipeline.com. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 16:21:03 -0500 From: Peter J. Kerrigan Subject: Re: Any Experience With African Telecom (Tanzania)? You will be stepping into a nightmare. Go get a copy of Paul Theroux's _The Mosquito Coast_ (or rent the Harrison Ford/Helen Mirren movie), multiply it by a factor of ten, and you will get the idea. In many African countries, the phone system (as is much of the infrastructure) is a relic of colonial times, and is in a state of shocking disrepair. Typically, the PTT is stocked with party hacks who don't know anything about telecom, and won't do anything without a bribe. I used to work for a company that made microwave transmission systems that were sold around the world. We sold a few to wealthy Africans who spent >$300K on a point-to-point system, just so they would have a reliable and secure way to call their office from their home(s). The systems were powered by generators and watched at all times by armed guards. I could go on, but people on this list have heard it all before ... Extra Credit question: What do you think would happen, in a largely Muslim country, the first time somebody took a peek at alt.binaries.pictures.erotica? Cheers, PJK ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jun 95 16:57 EST From: Proctor & Associates <0003991080@mcimail.com> Subject: Telecom Managers Listserver I heard about the following listserver today, and thought some folks on this forum might be interested. Paul Cook 206-881-7000 Proctor & Associates MCI Mail 399-1080 15050 NE 36th St. fax: 206-885-3282 Redmond, WA 98052-5378 3991080@mcimail.com CCMI-L on MAJORDOMO@USA.NET Telecom Managers Forum CCMI-L is an open discussion of management, operations, and technical issues among managers responsible for voice and data communications. To subscribe, send the following command in the BODY of mail to MAJORDOMO@USA.NET SUBSCRIBE CCMI-L Owner: Phil Kemelor philk@ucg.com United Communications Group 301/816-8950 x418 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jun 95 09:17:53 PDT From: Philippe RAVIX <"frogs::p_ravix"@csc32.enet.dec.com> Subject: Re: Inbound Out-of-Home-Area Cellular Calls c23st@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com (Spiros Triantafyllopoulos) wrote: > Could someone please explain the mechanism that allows cell phones to > *receive* calls while they are out of their home area? I recently had > the need to receive a call while out of my area (Central Indiana via > Cellular One) and according to the friendly representative all I > needed to do was dial some access code ONCE to unlock the block from > my phone. In fact this is really simple, and will depend on the type of cellular network used. The function is called roaming. The following description is for the GSM network, but I assume that other networks will do similar things. When you are in your Home area, you will use many cells (not just one). Your phone, when power up or after a timer (5mn?) will send a message that will be picked by one of the radio equipment. This will update a database (HLR for GSM) with your location. When someone is calling you in your home area using the 317 xxx xxxx the database will have the information of which cell to use to redirect the call. When you are outside of your Home area, the same scenario occurs, but a second database is involved (VLR for GSM). When your phone send the message (update location), the VLR is updated and because you are not in your home area, it will update your home database (HLR) also. When someone call you, your number is tied to your home database, which will know which area you are in (which VLR) it can send send the call to the VLR which knows exactly which cell you are in to triggered the good radio eqipment (MSC) > He said that once the block is released, I can receive calls anywhere > in the US and all people have to do is dial my number in Indiana > (317-xxx-yyyy) and the system will locate me in any state I am, > ithout me doing anything special or my callers calling funny access > numbers. Depending on the kind of network, you may have to unblock the phone to allow roaming, but I'm not sure of that. and YES, the caller will always dial your own number. > I did not try this (I was able to place calls but not receive) and the > obvious question is, is the guy right? will the system search thru ALL > cell networks in the US trying to find me, or I need to register > somehow that I'm in the Chicago area so that I can be reached there ... The guy is right, the registration is automatic. Remember, the system knows exactly which cell you are in, and will NEVER scan all cell networks. > Any explanation of the above will be appreciated. It *can't* be as > simple as what the guy said. It is really simple for the user (automatic registration). Philippe Ravix E-mail: p_ravix@csc32.enet.dec.com Digital Equipment Corporation Phone : +1-719-592-4263 305 Rockrimmon Blvd., South Colorado Springs, CO 80919 ------------------------------ From: bstarl@mccaw.com (Brian Starlin) Subject: Re: Inbound Out-of-Home-Area Cellular Calls Date: 6 Jun 1995 19:40:22 GMT Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc. There are various networks that connect cellular systems to one another, and the one I am most familiar with is the NACN -- North American Cellular Network. The NACN is made up of about 75 cellular service providers who connect together by way of SS7 signaling. This allows switches to exchange messages about their subscriber locations and features. Take, for example, a person from Seattle traveling to Denver ... 1. Customer turns phone on in Denver and automatically initiates a message to their home switch in Seattle. 2. Seattle home switch automatically looks up the person's profile (features, capabilities, etc. ) and sends the information to Denver. 3. The Denver switch sets up a visitor location register for that subscriber. The phone is now "registered" and call delivery is automatic. What happens if someone calls the Seattle phone number? 1. The Seattle switch "remembers" that the person is in Denver. 2. Seattle will automatically send a message to Denver to check if the phone is still active and to get a temporary Denver number. 3. Denver returns the temporary Denver number to Seattle, and Seattle sends the call over the public network to that Denver number. 4. The call goes into the Denver switch, and Denver knows the temporary number belongs to a particular phone visiting from Seattle. 5. The Denver switch routes the call to the cellular phone. The NACN covers about 4500 cities across America, Alaska, Canada, and part of Mexico. Right now, most of the NACN consists of "A-side" cellular service providers. However, many B-side carriers are now connecting too. The protocol that makes this happen is the "IS-41, Rev. A" standard protocol. NACN interconnects to other networks that provide similar services. One difference might be that the NACN is a not-for-profit organization. It covers its operating expenses and keeps rates low. Each cellular subscriber is associated with a "home" switch or database location. The network does not need to search through all systems to find you. As soon as you turn your phone on, you are "found." The visited system needs to have a link to your home system and has to have an idea where that home system is. Right now, each switch has tables that associate a person's phone number with their home system and routes the signaling messages accordingly. If you move into another cellular system that is still on the network, that system will pick you up and notify your home system of your location. The location is general (to one switch that covers a large area), and not down to the cell level. Hope this helps, b.s. [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Regards the assignment of a 'temporary number' which the home carrier then outdials over the public network, some cellular hackerphreaks have discovered that if you can find out what block of phone numbers is used by the carrier in your home area for 'temporary assignments' then you can program a cell phone to one of those numbers and receive incoming calls and place outgoing calls via that number at no charge if the carrier is not too smart. For example, let us say Cellular One in Chicago uses numbers in the 312-659-00xx series for temporary assignment to folks passing through town. If in Chicago and you program your cellphone to 312-659-00xx, whatever 'xx' may be, then anyone who dials that number will get through to you just fine; the cellular switch won't complain about it at all. There is no ESN checking, of course -- at least there did not used to be on 'temporary numbers', so with quite a few carriers you can even make outgoing calls at no charge if programmed to one of those numbers. So this is a good way, some contend, to use a cell- phone as a very fancy pager. You can get called, and speak on the call. If you need to make a call out and you are challenged or thwarted by the switch, well ... you can always go to a payphone or whatever. Check out the 'temporary assignment numbers' in your community and see if this works. Oh, and dudez, don't forget the reason your landline phone has the "*", "6", and "7" buttons on it when you dial into the xxx-7626 (xxx-ROAM) port in your community, although by all means, try direct dial to the temporary number also. PAT] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 20:04:24 +0200 From: Alex@Worldaccess.NL (Alex) Subject: Re: I Just Bought a CT2 Phone and I Love It After reading several articles on the net regarding CT2 phones (greenpoint for me here in Holland) I decided to buy one, and so I went to the phoneshop and bought one last Thursday. Despite the fact the phone only works in certain area's of town, I already like it very much. The phone has a build in numeric pager, so people can reach me anywhere in the country. Here in Holland it's not possible to call a CT2 phone, only page. The phone rate on the CT2 phone is two times the "normal" rate. This way toll-free numbers stay toll free and local calls are cheaper then long distance ones. This is quite different from the GSM network here in Holland where you pay a fixed rate per minute. Also the monthly charge here is lower ($6,00 per month or $13,00 including the pager subscription). GSM here is at the cheapest $30,00 a month with a city space subscription. I can understand some people are sceptic about the whole CT2 network, especially since it was terminated in the UK and the idea of having to be in the area of a greenpoint to use your phone. Yet, when you want a cordless phone and be able to make phonecalls on the street, CT2 is a pleasant and cheap solution! It certainly beats the analog 30-32mhz phones. I have tried to locate the frequency of the phone with my scanner, but I have been unable to locate it (so far). According to my information it should be between 864 and 868 mhz or between 1880 and 1900 mhz. Information on this is welcome. Alex van Es Alex@Worldaccess.NL, Apeldoorn, The Netherlands Phone:+31-55-421184 Pager:+31-6-59333551 (Greenpoint!) ------------------------------ From: jbhicks@inlink.com (J. Brad Hicks) Subject: Re: Mike Milken - Two Trillion Dollar Opportunity by Gilder Date: Tue, 06 Jun 1995 13:47:52 -0600 Organization: Discordians for "Bob" This may be the most terrifying thing I've read in weeks. Forgive me for using a non-telecom example, it's the only one I'm thoroughly familiar with. You see, here in St. Louis, we only had one vivid example of Milken and Boesky's benificence, and here's the way I remember what I read about it in the papers. Carl Icahn used a gigantic pile of junk bonds to take over, then take private, what was at the time one of America's premier airlines, Trans World Airlines, or TWA. Everybody in St. Louis, more or less, followed this story carefully; TWA uses St. Louis as a hub, and it's a major employer here. Yeah, there was a management shakeup, and yes, there were dramatic cuts in costs. As best can be told in retrospect, those cuts that didn't come from slashing worker's salaries were mostly in aircraft maintenance and replacement, the bread and butter of running an airline. The money that was freed up didn't go into improving airline productivity. It went into the pockets of the bondholders and into Carl Icahn's pockets. You see, even though (due to obscene interest expenses) the airline lost money every year he ran it, every year he ran it he hiked his salary. When he'd bled every asset out of the company he could, and it obviously couldn't keep the bills paid and the planes in the air, he bailed out, taking nothing with him except, of course, whatever he'd saved from many millions of dollars in salary. He would've gotten away with it completely, too, if he hadn't gotten one step too greedy and looted the pension fund. The feds made him pay part of that money back. That took him, if memory serves, from megamillionaire down to merely a multimillionaire ... for this, we're supposed to feel sorry for him. TWA managed to keep the doors open, barely. They went employee-owned, got some debt forgiveness, and yet more wage concessions from the employees, made some clever marketing moves, sold off yet more routes, and against all odds have managed to crawl back into business. They still haven't figured out how they'll afford to replace planes as they die, and they're flying one of the oldest fleets in the air. It's a much smaller and poorer business than it was when Carl Icahn took it over, but they're justifiably proud of having survived him at all. This kind of "efficiency," well known also to anybody who's followed the story of Georgia-Pacific and many other companies that were the victims of hostile LBOs -- this kind of leverage, the telecommunications industry does =not= need. J. Brad Hicks, St. Louis, Missouri mailto:jbhicks@inlink.com http://www.inlink.com/~jbhicks/ [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I am wondering if George Gilder would be so kind to provide a response to Mr. Hicks and share it with the rest of us here reading the Digest. PAT] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 09:37:31 -0600 From: Eric Hunt Subject: Re: The PBX Owner's Lament > Isn't this getting silly? Have any of the new NPAs gone out of permissive > dialing yet? I lived in Alabama until late January. My mother is still there. Permissive dialing ended in May of this year for the 205/334 split in Alabama. She told me the businesses in South Alabama sued to get permissive dialing involuntarily extended by BellSouth and that they lost. Alabama is the first state (to my knowledge) to have the new NPA system completely in place. Washington's, which was activated at the same time, is still in permissive dialing. Eric in Austin (not scheduled for NPA split for some some time) metrowerks Corp. ------------------------------ From: cogorno@netcom.com (Steve Cogorno) Subject: Re: Gate Intercom Tied to Private Phone Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 20:41:45 PDT > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: The association is opting for the cheap > way out on this. *Good* front door/apartment intercom systems which > operate via the telephone use either CO-provided equipment with dedicated > pairs jumpered into your phone line or they use a control box in the > basement of the building (or wherever telco's demarc is for the property.) Usually I am in agreement with Patrick, but here I completely disagree. I live in a complex with security gates at the entrance. Unlike the system Patrick described above, it is a computerized system with a digital display/directory. The visitors look up my name from the directory if they don't already know my code, and punch it in. The system uses a *regular* POTS line and places a call to my apartment. If I'm on the line, the call rolls to the second, just like any other call. If I chose to have call waiting instead of two lines, it would interrupt my call but I would be able to control the interruption with *70. What I object to in the scenario above, is that no matter how you have your lines set up, the gate device will put CW tones onto your call and (probably) kill a modem. There's also little flexibility when it comes to call handling. If I'm not here and have my calls forwarded to my cell phone, the gate call will get forwarded too. (Some may say this is a Bad Thing, but I like being able to let the person know when I'm coming back or where I am.) If I wanted to have a special ring for gate calls, I could put Distinctive Ring/Ringmate on the line. But whatever I decide, it is ME deciding, not the management deciding for me. I guess I a) don't trust the management to do the job right, and b) object to someone else limiting my options on *MY* pairs. Steve cogorno@netcom.com [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: The original thinking behind this, when Illinois Bell was marketing Enterphone was that while most people would probably not object to having their phone line busied out with *70 against another phone call, but probably would object if their choice was to lose control of their front door in the process. It was also thought that most people probably would not want their front door calls to be forwarded to an answering service or wherever they had forwarded their line in their absence. The thinking was most people would not want to risk the possibility of a stranger at their door *knowing for certain* they were not at home. The thinking was also that since many/most apart- ments have two pairs -- if not necessarily two working lines -- that in the event a resident demanded the kind of control over his line that you suggest, they could request the door to be brought up on the idle pair or (if both in use) the line not usually needed for 'critical' applications such as modems, etc. In other words, if your residence has at least two pairs, then you can have your cake and eat it too. Put your modem and/or more often used line on one pair, with the front door on the other pair and lesser-used, modem-unlikely line. Whether or not it is a good or bad idea to let front door visitors know when you will be back home is a matter of debate and application on a user by user basis I guess. PAT] ------------------------------ From: morris@grian.cps.altadena.ca.us (Mike Morris) Subject: Re: Gate Intercom Tied to Private Phone Organization: College Park Software, Altadena, CA Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 22:01:33 GMT xdab@kimbark.uchicago.edu (David Baird) writes: > I wonder how many people and/or buildings have these "phone" units? > How reliable are they? I guess the answer to this question will > ultimately be how will it stand up to the elements and vandalism? The commercial Ma Bell supplied equipment is pretty good. The signboard/unit directory is OK, and the phone unit is built a lot like a payphone, except there is a speakerphone instead of a handset. The aftermarket stuff I've seen (Nutone/Executone type stuff, etc) is all over the map -- some is junk, some is better. (Note -- I am not naming Nutone or Executone specifically -- just using them as an example of non-Ma Bell manufacturers) > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: The association is opting for the cheap > way out on this. *Good* front door/apartment intercom systems which > operate via the telephone use either CO-provided equipment with dedicated > pairs jumpered into your phone line or they use a control box in the > basement of the building (or wherever telco's demarc is for the property.) I've seen several different branded systems in the LA area -- the Ma Bell systems are the best. The other ones are "canned solutions" in that they are sold by local interconnct houses or apartment house/condo supply companies and are a (big) "black box" that hooks to a pots line and is programmed and that's it. They use regular call waiting, and a "7" (or any other progammed digit) as an open code. There is no "deny" code - the recipient just switches back to the other call. Most use a "1" as teh start digit, some use "*". All the non-Ma-Bell systems except one -- yes, ALL but one -- that I have encountered in the last ten years have been disabled within four years after I first encountered them (note -- I would have encountered them visiting friends in buildings equipped with them, as I live in a regular house and have since 1965). Generally the cheapie systems get removed, or at least the electrobagnetic latch in the gate gets removed, and a "out of order" sign is put over the keypad (i.e. the directory is left in use). > Tell your association to reconsider what they are doing, and to do it > right. Yes, it costs a bit more, but provides excellent security. Many > buildings in Chicago use the system I have described, along with a television > camera which monitors the gate or front entrance. The apartment dweller > need merely tune on 'channel 3' on television to view the front door > while talking on the phone to the person he is viewing on television. > This is the *only* way to go, in my opinion. PAT] Excellnt advice. Tell your association "You get what you pay for" and "Pay the price now for a cheapie and pay again for a good one". Mike Morris WA6ILQ PO Box 1130 Arcadia, CA. 91077 ICBM: 34.07.930N, 118.03.799W Reply to: morris@grian.cps.altadena.ca.us [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: The other thing he needs to do is insist on very prompt repair when the system is out of order for obvious reasons. When Illinois Bell was doing it, their guarantee was a FOUR HOUR turnaround at any time day or night when the circuit to the front door went out of order (the building owner had to supply the latching mechanism and the stepdown transfer and wires; all IBT did was maintain the 'door opening circuit' to that point), and an EIGHT HOUR turnaround on the repair of any given apartment line. That included Sundays and holidays, overnight, etc. And they were good at keeping their word on that part of it when they could otherwise get their act together, which they did eventually. Let me explain: The jumpers from the common equipment in the central office to the frames (except they don't use frames in ESS, but anyway ...) had to be tagged and clearly marked. The pairs going out from the CO to the subscribers in that building had to be clearly marked 'front door intercom service, do NOT remove or reassign'. Every telephone pole and manhole from there to the subscriber had to have the pairs noted as dedicated. Every basement of every other apartment building on the block where those pairs were multipled had to be checked, with the pairs plainly marked as dedicated to the '

building'. Well, in a crowded central office in an older urban area where the pairs are all in a mess anyway and no one knows what half of them are for or where they go, you can imagine how successful IBT was at getting installers to keep their hands to themselves when they were trying to get a line for a new subscriber somewhere in the vicinity, etc. A lot of telco installers think a pair without dialtone on it is fair game. So in one case for about a month after the installation was complete, it was an on-again, off-again thing as telco would keep swapping pairs where an installer had stolen one for someone else. The manager of the apartment building was very hip and knowledgeable about this, and he would deliberatly go to vacant units and plug in a phone, then have someone downstairs at the door signal him. No signal? ... snap! He would be on the phone to repair in a minute to get 'his' dedicated pair back. Newer telco service reps would give him the story that 'we only supply it for occupied apartments with phone service turned on'. No you don't, he would answer. We pay a dollar per month per apartment regardless (along with $35 per month for the common equipment in the central office, $5 per month for the front door phone and $2 per month for the door- opening circuit), so give me all the pairs I am paying for! Telco would squirm at that; they dearly needed the dozen or so pairs at any given time that he was *not* using (vacant apartments) but he said tough ... Then one day came the big flood ... sewer repair crews excavating in the street nearby broke a large water main. Water poured into the IBT hole and knocked out phone service over a two or three block area for a day; including guess what? Umm hmm ... the front door service at that building. So personally I would go with premises equipment any day over the central office version. Maybe its just as well that kindly old Judge Greene made Bell quit offering the service. At the building I am discussing here, when their contract with IBT ran out they bought their own system from GTE. It took them about a year to amortize it versus their monthly payments to IBT. In any event, make sure *someone* knows how to fix it and responds promptly on request. Otherwise you have a helluva mess; the front door has to be left propped open, etc. PAT] ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #273 ****************************** Received: from ns1.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa20795; 7 Jun 95 16:13 EDT Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id HAA29399 for telecomlist-outbound; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 07:16:04 -0500 Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id HAA29391; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 07:16:02 -0500 Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 07:16:02 -0500 From: TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson) Message-Id: <199506071216.HAA29391@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #274 TELECOM Digest Wed, 7 Jun 95 07:16:00 CDT Volume 15 : Issue 274 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Re: Need One Mile PC Communications (news@wndrsvr.la.ca.us) Re: Need One Mile PC Communications (Greg Tompkins) Re: Prodigy Held Liable in Libel Case Caused by Subscriber (Steve Lichter) Re: French Hotels May Overcharge For Phone Calls (Christophe Marcant) Re: SS7 <--> MFR2 Conversion? (Gene Delancey) Re: Telecom Finland to Use DCS 1800 to Back up GSM (Sam Spens Clason) Re: How to Make a Long Distance Call in 1942 (Scot Desort) Re: Oppose Mandatory Touch-Tone $ervice - Your Action Needed (Jean Airey) Re: Telephone Voice "Broadcast" Software? (Gary Feld) Re: Meridian SL1 - Information Pointers? (Holly Fenn) Re: Foreign Exchange Lines in Oregon (Jay Hennigan) Re: LDDS Cost Information and Quality Query (Steve Fram) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. 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Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: news@wndrsvr.la.ca.us (news) Subject: Re: Need One Mile PC Communications Date: 6 Jun 1995 19:32:39 -0700 Organization: wndrsvr - Public Access for SoCal 1.310.370.3069 rconstan@gate.net (RC) wrote: > We're using reachout between two PCs, but the nominal 9600-28K baud > rates available between the machines is not quite fast enough for the > customers needs. However, the machines are one mile apart, and the > customer is willing to string his own wire if necessary to gain > thruput. Unfortunately, high speed phone lines are simply not > available in this area. But it seems to me that a mile is not too far > fetched for the right kind of direct connection. If anyone is > familliar enough with the possible off the shelf solutions, please > email me. PairGain in Cerritos, CA (last time I checked) makes some sort of thingy that lets you run data up to five miles if I recall correctly. I think they call it the "Campus-T1" if memory serves. It's supposed to allow FDDI over copper. I can check for more details, but they ran an ad in {Data Communications} magazine. I don't know anything about the product other than what it says in the ad though. Andy ------------------------------ From: Greg Tompkins Subject: Re: Need One Mile PC Communications Date: 6 Jun 1995 20:07:24 GMT Organization: 4-T Acres > This sounds like a perfect application for Spread-Spectrum radio. I > know Black Box sells stuff for this. Basically you just put an antenna > on each building, and you get 2mbps, no FCC licensing. Furthermore, > you can get a data compression box on each end and get about 3.5mbps > out of it. That should be more than enough speed considering that's > 1/3 of ethernet. Spread-Spectrum radio is **VERY** expensive. I have looked into these options as well. Do you know if there are any models that cost under $1000 each? Thanks. GREG ------------------------------ From: co057@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Steven H. Lichter) Subject: Re: Prodigy Held Liable in Libel Case Caused by Subscriber Date: 7 Jun 1995 01:38:06 GMT Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA) Well I run a BBS and have had to remove subject matter including a now ex-user who sent everyone on my system a rather filthy note. Does that mean if someone finds a subject they don't like or claim to be libeless I'll have legal problems? I hope you have insurance to cover that, I don't. I think the laws have to be updated to cover electronic media, since it is a lot different then print in that it appears at once unless the group is moderated, and even with with this group I have seen that you have gotten spammed. I check my system several times a day and the users and other SysOps on the nets are pretty good, with the exception of one system that seems to have been taken over by its users. [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Everything comes in degrees, Steve. Even the {Chicago Tribune} has had people slip through things on them that were nasty. They hastened to remove it and it was treated like a simple accident. For example, any readers of the {Tribune} recall the time a few years ago when the disgruntled classified advertising counselor -- with access to the computer which prepares the classified ads -- went through the 'help wanted' ads planned for one Sunday maliciously making some obscene changes in the wording? We all know how employment ads in the newspaper include the line at the bottom saying 'equal opportunity employer, m/f' ... this fellow went through a dozen or so of the ads in the computer for the Sunday paper and after the 'm/f' notation added the statement, 'that means mother-fu__ers'. But he spelled it out. Since I publish a family-oriented journal here, I have to use blanks for some letters. The newspaper did not catch this until after it had been printed and was on the street. They fired the guy who did it and apologized to the advertisers affected. Things will slip through. PAT] ------------------------------ From: cmarcant@netcom.com (Christophe Marcant) Subject: Re: French Hotels May Overcharge For Phone Calls Organization: Objectwise Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 17:09:23 GMT In article , ndallen@io.org (Nigel Allen) wrote: > An article in the Toronto {Globe and Mail} travel section (page E1, > May 27, 1995) warns that hotels and restaurants in France are now free > to charge whatever they want for calls made from pay phones and room > phones on their premises. The rates are supposed to be posted, but may > be confusing to people from outside France if they are quoted per > pulse rather than per minute. > People travelling in the U.S. have learned to watch out for COCOTs, > and for hotel phone rates anywhere in the world. Now it seems that > France has been added to the list of countries with rip-off pay > phones. I did not even know that they were not allowed to overcharge in the past. Whenever I had to use a phone in a hotel I felt like when you're taking a taxi ride outside of the airport in a foreign country: you don't know which road you'll take and you don't know how much you'll be charge for. A good suggestion is for you to use your calling card as many LD providers offer access from France. I remember that some hotel we were staying at was claiming that there was no way to reach an ATT operator: that was plain wrong! 19 0011 gets you ATT for example. Some LD companies give you an operator while some others give you a tone which is more convenient for modem calls Christophe Marcant vox: 415-333-1333 Objectwise fax: 415-587-2258 net: cmarcant@netcom.com ------------------------------ From: anadigicom@aol.com (Anadigicom) Subject: Re: SS7 <--> MFR2 Conversion? Date: 6 Jun 1995 11:04:14 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Reply-To: anadigicom@aol.com (Anadigicom) We manufacture a complete line of analog and digital signaling conversion products. The unit you require is the Model TSC100 Trunk Signaling Converter. Your requirement suggests the need to convert from the R2 signaling format to possibly a TUP SS7 link. In order for us to provide a quotation, we require the following information: 1. Country specific or SS7 signaling plan (i.e. TUP or ISUP, etc.) 2. Specification on the link requirements (i.e. T1 or E1, number of trunks, redundant signaling link, etc.) 3. Specification on input power requirements. 4. Numbering plan to be used. The TSC100 is a modular rack mounted system consisting of a common equipment 3U (5.25 inch) rack mounted chassis, DC Converter, CPU and up to twelve (12) trunk modules which can interface either T1 or E1 links. SS7 signaling channels can be extracted from any DSO by user command via a control terminal link. This same link offers the flexibility to configure parameters for both the R2 and SS7 sides. Additionally, the same platform allows signaling conversion for R2, C5, China 1, MF, R1, and many other custom derivatives of the above types. Support for primary rate ISDN (i.e. 23B +D and 30B+D) to SS7 ISUP is also possible along with channel re-mapping with our digital crossconnect module which supports a full 360 DSO crossconnect within the same chassis concurrent with the signaling conversion. For additional information, contact information is provided below: Anadigicom Corporation Ph- 703-803-0400 FAX- 703-803-2956 EMAIL: Anadigicom@aol.com Attn: Mr. Gene Delancey, Director of Sales ------------------------------ From: d92-sam@sham69.nada.kth.se (Sam Spens Clason) Subject: Re: Telecom Finland to Use DCS 1800 to Back up GSM Date: 6 Jun 1995 15:39:42 GMT In Kimmo.Ketolainen@utu.fi (Kimmo Ketolainen +358 40 500 2957) writes: > According to {Helsingin Sanomat} (25 May) Telecom Finland > plans to use the 1800 MHz frequencies in the major cities to > enhance GSM efficiency. DCS 1800 will only be taken into use > in the metropolitan areas where the GSM frequency bands > around 900 MHz are getting more and more populated. The new > frequency does not require any major capital investment, as > it can and will be used by the current GSM base stations. In Sweden a slightly different approach has been taken. The analog NMT900 is defined for the same frequency band as GSM. Telia, which has a monopoly on NMT service, has been quarreling with the two independent GSM operators (Telia runs GSM as well) about how to increase capacity in Sweden's (especially Stockholm's) GSM networks. Telia wanted 1800 MHz frequencies for DCS but the other two wanted to dismantle NMT900. There is an EC directive that says that 900 MHz should be reserved for GSM and that other analog networks should be "phased out" but that certain considerations should be made. A timeplan for the dismantling of analog netwoks is however required. There was a compromise and Telia has to hand over some 2.3MHz (about 1/5) from their NMT900 operation to Comviq GSM, Europolitan GSM and Telia GSM by March 1 1996. Another revision is scheduled for next autumn. But there is still no plan on further reduction of NMT frequencies. Most probably 1800 will eventually be used just as in Finland, but no decisions have yet been made. Ny reflection to all this is will the introduction of DCS make GSM cheeper, i.e. will the prices drop to LD rate? Any experiences from the UK or Germany? Sam www.nada.kth.se/~d92-sam, sam@nada.kth.se, +46 7 01234567 ------------------------------ From: gsmicro@ios.com Date: Wed, 6 Jun 1995 02:55:14 -0400 Subject: Re: How to Make a Long Distance Call in 1942 TELECOM Digest Editor noted: >> The operator's switchboard had two buttons on it marked 'return' and >> 'collect' and by pressing one button or the other, the money would >> fall in the box or the table would tip in the other direction and dump >> the coins back out to the caller. Then Pete Farmer responded: > A manager I had worked with at Bell Atlantic had once been put into > service as a PSTS operator in Norfolk, VA, during a strike, and > handled calls from coin telephones. Unfortunately, the training she > got for the position was less than adequate and -- you guessed it -- > for her first full day on the post, she hit the wrong button *every > time* she handled a call. Everyone who completed a call got money > back, and everyone who failed had their money taken. Nothing like > getting the public interested in a quick settlement! I worked for AT&T as a TSPS operator (just after divestiture, AT&T was still handling dial-0 for RBOC's). The TSPS console can be very intimidating if you weren't trained properly. Our training, done in pairs, lasted two weeks. Two mind-numbing, coma-inducing weeks of repeated interactive audio tapes of people asking different things of the Operator (actually, the interactive training system was more technologically advanced than the TSPS console itself ). I worked the "graveyard" shift (11PM to 7AM) in the Rochelle Park, NJ, NJ Bell Building. We serviced most of Northern NJ, from Union City in Hudson County, to Hackensack, to Paterson. Do you know what happens to a TSPS board at 2AM when the bars close -- not a pretty site! The only reason a coin call would appear at the position was if the phone was not registering coins, or the call being placed cost more than $3.00. For the former, we had to listen for the tones made by the slot mechanism (five for a quarter, two for a dime,etc..). For the latter, it's as Pat stated -- we would have to stop the caller from depositing and hit COLLECT to swallow the coins. However, this sometimes presented a problem. In 1983, the TSPS consoles we used could *not* split calling party from called party (old plugboards could do this no problem). So for example, if someone wanted to make a person-to-person call to Turkey (for say $11.00), policy stated that we begin the forward dialing, wait for a party to acknowledge, and then tell calling party to begin depositing, all this while the called party was on-line and waiting. In fact, they would often start talking, and we would have to interrupt them and insist that they continue depositing. Sometimes, they'd get just enough chatter through our demands to stop, then they'd hangup. Nothing we could do about it. If you did happen to hit return and not collect, the display would show that the money was not collected. Also, the TSPS console was configured so that it gave you visual clues what to do next. When a coin call arrived, the display showed amount due and amount deposited so far. The button labeled POS REL (for POSITION RELEASE) was the button to release the call for normal timing. It would only light if the deposited amount equalled the due amount, in which case you'd press it once. If you needed to override, you'd have to press it twice as a confirmation. The mistake I made all too often (to the dismay of the TSPS monitoring team in Piscataway NJ) was release a call without selecting a rate class. Before starting forward dialing and pressing POS REL, a rate could have to be selected (station, DDD, oper,Pers to Pers, etc..). However, a call could still be released from the position without selecting a rate (free call). If you were fast, you'd sometimes miss the rate button and fly right onto POSREL. Lucky caller! BTW, the correct acronym is TSPS, which stands for Telephone Services Position System (I think -- nobody actually ever told us -- found out many years later). Oh, the stories I could tell ... Scot M. Desort Garden State Micro, Inc. +1 201-244-1110 +1 201-244-1120 Fax gsmicro@ios.com [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Feel free. Telephone operators are among the most abused people in the world. PAT] ------------------------------ From: jeana@cbnews.cb.att.com (jean) Subject: Re: Oppose Mandatory Touch-Tone $ervice - Your Action Needed Organization: AT&T Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 12:47:12 GMT In article , Anthony Wallis wrote: > My (limited and perhaps flawed) understanding is that, where the > subscriber has a choice between pulse or tone dialing, there are NOT > two parallel switching systems at the central office, one for pulse > and one for tone, with the pulse system being cheaper. Rather, the > switching system is tone based, with DTMF tone dialing being the > primary presentation of the system to the subscriber. The alternate > presentation of pulse dialing is a secondary "front end" for backwards > compatibility with older systems. (Going all the way back to Mr. > Strowger's techno-response to his competitor's wife being the town's > switchboard operator.) Pulse dialed numbers are stored and then > emitted as a tone burst into the tone switched system. I can't speak for any other vendor, but in the 5ESS(R) Switch, the exact same device, engineered in the same way is used to decode pulse and tone inputs. There is no separate engineering input based on how many customers have one type or the other. Jean Airey ATT ------------------------------ From: gfeld@usa.nai.net (Gary Feld) Subject: Re: Telephone Voice "Broadcast" Software? Date: 06 Jun 1995 01:54:33 GMT Organization: North American Internet Company > Anyway, the school where I teach is interested in software > that would do something similar to a fax broadcast, but it would be > voice. They'd have a list of the students in a particular class and > if the class were cancelled, the system could call each of them and > let them know. It SEEMS like this could be an option on the school's > phone system (I don't remember who made it), since it does have voice > mail and all sorts of fancy features. But I'm wondering if there's > some simple PC software that could also do it. I'm running SuperVoice > 2 with a Maxtech voice/data/fax modem and am quite pleased with it. I > spoke with the publisher of SuperVoice yesterday and they did not have > any voice broadcast software. So, anything like this around? > SuperVoice 2 with modem was about $70. It'd be real nice to find > something in this price area. Hello Direct has exactly the device you are looking for. Native it stores up to 1,000 phone numbers. They also make a model that connects to the PC or MAC. The base unit, unfortuantely, is $499 and the PC/MAC model is $699. You can reach them at 800-444-3556. Gary Feld Information Technology Management Helping People Use Telecommunications and Computers to Create Value ------------------------------ From: hfenn@mathworks.com (Holly Fenn) Subject: Re: Meridian SL1 - Information Pointers? Date: Wed, 06 Jun 1995 14:55:22 -0400 Organization: The MathWorks, Inc. In article , brisco@rab.ieee.org (Thomas P. Brisco) wrote: > I've been working with someone locally to try and get a > Fax-On-Demand system ("single call" configuration) -- and I'm > attempting to have it as closely integrated into the existing > environment as possible. > Our Meridian reps aren't making this easy. > Our tech rep indicates that our "Meridian SL1 with Option 61" > can hand off an analog line. However, I also know that we're running > some digital protocol between the PBX and our multi-line sets. When I > inquire as to what this protocol is, he tells me "Its digital" (big > help). This makes me worried about his information regarding the > ability to do an analog handoff. Boy, can I relate to this! We are trying to do the same thing at my company. We bought four sight/four link fax server software that was specifically configured for the Northern platform. We have it all set to go but we can't get the PBX to deliver DTMF tones to the server. Clearly this is not brain surgery! We have had absolutely no help from Nortel, out service provider. Please tell me if you get any feedback from anyone that can answer this problem. Good luck! If we get anywhere I will let you know. Thanks, Holly Fenn hfenn@mathworks.com The MathWorks, Inc. info@mathworks.com 24 Prime Park Way http://www.mathworks.com Natick, MA 01760-1500 ftp.mathworks.com Phone: 508-653-1415 ext. 4395 Fax: 508-650-6725 ------------------------------ From: jay@rain.org Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom Subject: Re: Foreign Exchange Lines in Oregon Date: 7 Jun 1995 06:52:34 GMT Organization: RAIN Public Access Internet (805) 967-RAIN Greg Tompkins (gregt@4tacres.com) wrote: > Any other ideas to have foreign exchange without paying these > ridiculous rates. I have checked into leased lines, RF links, > everything but they are all expensive options. Maybe I can get right > of way and string my own wire to someone who lives in the area I am > trying to call free! :-) Pick a friendly location in the "foreign" area where you want a presence. Depending on how the telco computes mileage, you might be better off if this is physically close to your actual location. This can be a friend's house or anywhere where you can get two phone jacks installed. Tell the Great Telephone Experiment that you're opening an office, you'll have a PBX, and need an off-premise station from your PBX to your actual location. Order a loop-start trunk for the PBX. The telco will install a jack at the location with dialtone, and a jack to connect to your "extension". Get a cord with modular plugs on both ends. This is your "PBX". Plug it in to both jacks (you might have to reverse the wires on one end). Done. Jay Hennigan Amateur radio: WB6RDV jay@rain.org Santa Barbara, CA USA ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 01:01:12 -0700 From: Steve Fram Subject: Re: LDDS Cost Information and Quality Query We switched about $12,000 of business from Sprint to LDDS, based on price alone (including both dedicated and dialup service). The service is a bit worse than Sprint's (e.g., occasional circuit busies on the 800 line), but overall is excellent. The customer service is not exceptional, but is better than Sprint's -- e.g., it took LDDS 4 hours to isolate the loss of our T1 trunk to Telco on a holiday. But once Sprint took 20 hours to isolate a down T1 to the LIU on the channel bank that we rent from them. Steve Fram Technical Director, IGC ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #274 ****************************** Received: from ns1.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa18200; 8 Jun 95 12:06 EDT Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id DAA23540 for telecomlist-outbound; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 03:15:20 -0500 Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id DAA23531; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 03:15:15 -0500 Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 03:15:15 -0500 From: TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson) Message-Id: <199506080815.DAA23531@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #275 TELECOM Digest Thu, 8 Jun 95 03:15:00 CDT Volume 15 : Issue 275 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Blind - But Working With ACD - And Some Other Stuff (Joseph Norton) A Tour of Your Phone (Netsurfer Digest via Arthur P. Bebak) Book Review: "The Internet" by Hoffman (Rob Slade) 911 From Cellphones in CA (Marty Brenneis) Telematic Sculptur 4 (ts4@piis10.joanneum.ac.at) National Information Infrastructure Course at MIT (Gillian Cable-Murphy) Experience Switching Canadian Cellular Service? (Andy VanGils) NTI and Peer to Peer Connection (Allan Bourque) Question on ATT Pub 41450 (Brian Gilmore) Information Wanted on American Communication Services (Vince Wolodkin) Re: CTI Application Wanted For Data Collection (Joe Sulmar) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of public service systems and networks including Compuserve and America On Line. It is also gatewayed to Usenet where it appears as the moderated newsgroup 'comp.dcom.telecom'. Subscriptions are available to qualified organizations and individual readers. Write and tell us how you qualify: * telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu * The Digest is edited, published and compilation-copyrighted by Patrick Townson of Skokie, Illinois USA. You can reach us by postal mail, fax or phone at: 9457-D Niles Center Road Skokie, IL USA 60076 Phone: 500-677-1616 Fax: 708-329-0572 ** Article submission address only: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu ** Our archives are located at lcs.mit.edu and are available by using anonymous ftp. The archives can also be accessed using our email information service. 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Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 7 Jun 95 20:09 EST From: Joseph Norton <0006487445@mcimail.com> Subject: Blind - But Working With ACD - And Some Other Stuff Hi all! Don't know if any of you can shed any light on this problem, but, I thought I'd put it out there and see what happens. I am a blind computer user currently employed by World Carpets as a Customer Service Representative. My job involves answering calls and taking, checking status and otherwise maintaining carpet orders. I receive the calls from an ACD system. For the most part, I can use the telephone set quite well. I know what and where all the important buttons are and have a good working knowledge of how the PBX I'm on handles things like call transfer, forwarding and the like. Where I run into the most difficulty is with the little things. For example, when I'm working on an order and don't wish to receive any calls for a short period, I press what all the reps call the "WORK" button (I've got a manual somewhere in here, but, don't feel like having someone look in it to get me the proper name). I have a light sensor which I can position over the light (or led?) that indicates the state of the buttons, and it squawks when they're lit. Sometimes, however, I am working on something and forget to turn off the "WORK" button. The guy next to me kind-of keeps an eye out, and alerts me if he sees that I'm "on WORK", but, sometimes he's too busy, and I've forgotten about pressing the button to begin with:-). With the right knowledge in wiring, a person could rig up a device that would beep every so often if the "WORK" button was on, and something could be built into the software for this too. The phone set already alerts you if a caller is on hold for more than two minutes (I think) by sounding the ringer every second. Other problems may not be so simple, however. The sets give the other sighted reps information about which group of lines a call is coming in on, give Message-Waiting indication, who's calling (from inside the PBX) and various statistics about call traffic. I've heard rumors about blind people working as operators (probably on TSPS), and would guess that similar problems had to be met there. Any of you have any ideas as to how some of these problems can be solved in my case? Aside from this, how were they dealt with back in the days of TSPS? Are there any blind operators using OSPS? I've heard that OSPS uses a more graphical interface. The GUI is being tackled in the PC and MAC worlds (along with others [I think]), but, don't know what was done when AT&T migrated to OSPS. I'd be interested to hear about that as well. Were there any blind operators who's jobs could not be done as efficiently, or did AT&T already have a solution in place when they started using OSPS? Back to the PBX. I'm using an ACD on a NEC 2400 (according to the person in charge of telecommunications at World). That's the only helpful thing I can provide, but, give me some other questions to ask and I'll give them a shot. If we used an AT&T PBX, could a blind user use the "Remote Agent" system AT&T uses in some offices? I've talked to a rep (or two) who was working from his/her home using a "Remote Agent" system on an ACD on an AT&T PBX. What kind of feedback and control could this offer? Anyway, that's enough from me:-). Any suggestions? Drop me a line. Joseph (Joe) Norton <6487445@MCIMAIL.COM> Dalton, Georgia -- The Carpet Capital of the world ------------------------------ From: shrike@shell.portal.com (Arthur P Bebak) Subject: A Tour of Your Phone Date: 8 Jun 1995 07:22:08 GMT Organization: Portal Communications - 408/973-9111 (voice) 408/973-8091 (data) This just appeared in the latest issue of Netsurfer Digest and may be of some interest to the readers of these newsgroups: AT&T'S TERRIFIC TOUR OF YOUR TELEPHONE With their "Talking Power" pages, AT&T provides an entertaining and educational tour through the telephone system, part of their multimedia performance support systems. You can learn more about your phone line, batteries, the central office, the U.S. telephone network, the anatomy of a telephone call, and the training course itself. It's all part of the impressive site that AT&T maintains. You can find out more about the Digest and subscribe at: http://www.netsurf.com/nsd/ Arthur Bebak arthur@msm.com Netsurfer Communications Netsurfer Digest http://www.netsurf.com/nsd/index.html "More Signal, Less Noise" ftp://ftp.netsurf.com/pub/nsd/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Jun 1995 14:26:36 EST From: Rob Slade Subject: Book Review: "The Internet" by Hoffman BKINTPBS.RVW 950414 "The Internet", Paul Hoffman, John Levine ed., 1994, 1-56884-247-3, U$34.99/C$44.99/UK#33.99 %A Paul Hoffman %C 155 Bovet Road, Suite 310, San Mateo, CA 94402 %D 1994 %E John Levine dummies@iecc.com %G 1-56884-247-3 %I IDG Books %O U$34.99/C$44.99/UK#33.99 415-312-0650 fax: 415-286-2740 kaday@aol.com %P 241 %T "The Internet" The cover describes this as "the official book of the Public Television presentation, 'The Internet Show'". It is a kind of "computer literacy" level introduction to the Internet, with lots of pictures and lots of white space, and not much text. (Some of the pictures and sidebar comments will make little sense unless you have seen the show.) Within the limits of the space allowed, the text is clear and readable. Explanations of what the Internet is, and what you can do with it, are good, but very short on "how". NetManage's Chameleon software for Windows is provided with the book, and a set of "Instant Internet" providers who have agreed to handle billing for both software and service. Unfortunately, a) this is only good in areas of the United States, and b) the book, itself, is far from clear on your license for use with providers outside this group. Nevertheless, if you wish to use one of the providers from the list, the setup is quite well automated. (The "registration" number for the software does work from Canada, and I've been told that a "perpetual license" for the software costs U$50. Some of the access providers listed do also provide access from Canada.) For those wishing to use the Internet in other ways, the lack of detail may be frustrating. As noted above, chapter three, on Internet tools and applications, does not explain use. Even more surprising is chapter four, "Interesting Content", which does describe some absorbing sites on the net, but, aside from newsgroup names, doesn't give a single, specific address. (Neither does chapter five, "Searching for Information on the Internet". Not even InterNIC.) copyright Robert M. Slade, 1995 BKINTPBS.RVW 950414. Distribution permitted in TELECOM Digest and associated publications. Rob Slade's book reviews are a regular feature in the Digest. DECUS Canada Communications, Desktop, Education and Security group newsletters Editor and/or reviewer ROBERTS@decus.ca, RSlade@sfu.ca, Rob Slade at 1:153/733 Author "Robert Slade's Guide to Computer Viruses" 0-387-94311-0/3-540-94311-0 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 10:22:06 PDT From: Marty Brenneis Subject: 911 From Cellphones in CA I am part of a local government group working on a public information peice about using cellphones to reach "911". Personally I have had some bad experiences here in CA with the cellular psap personnel not being very well trained. I am seeking personal experiences both good and bad that involve using cellular 911 for situations that were not the jurisdiction of the Highway Patrol. (mail to droid@nbn.com) I am mainly interested in California, but if you have an interesting tale from another state or country please chime in. Background: In California the calls from cellphones to "911" are sent to the California Highway Patrol dispatch center for that region. The call taker at that location must determine what jurisction you are in and what service you need, they then route you to the agency that handles that situation. Unfortunatly they can't send you into the PSAP for that region so you can be handled like a regular 911 call by someone familiar with that area. They also have some bad phone numbers in their lists. (I was sent to the SFPD TDD desk when I asked for an ambulance in San Francisco.) I have spoken with the supervisor for the Golden Gate region and have helped clear some of their problems. But they still persist. I'd also like to hear form persons involved in the design of how future cell systems can handle 911 calls better. Thanks, Marty Brenneis droid@nbn.com Marin County Emergency Medical Care Committie ------------------------------ From: ts4@piis10.joanneum.ac.at Subject: Telematic Sculpture 4 Date: Thu, 07 Jun 95 19:34:00 GMT Organization: Joanneum Research [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: This is something a little different, to say the least. PAT] This mobile sculpture (length 21,8 meters, weight 1800 kg) by R. Kriesche is physically positioned in the Austrian Pavilion during the Biennale of Venice. T.S.4 is driven by the data flow in Internet according to the relation of the world wide computer newsgroups versus world wide art newsgroups. According to this relation T.S.4 will transcross the Austrian Pavilion during the time of the biennale and might even break through the wall of the Pavilion. You are invited to become part of T.S.4 by: o visiting its www homepage: http://iis.joanneum.ac.at/kriesche/biennale95.html; o discussion about T.S.4 on Usenet news; o sending e-mail to T.S.4 (mailto:ts4@iis.joanneum.ac.at). Your participation will slow down the movement of T.S.4 and prevent it crashing. Thank you for slowing down the speed of T.S.4. According to the momentanous and longterm information flow on internet's www computer-newsgroups and art-newsgroups and the e-mail data flow the crash/noncrash forecast of T.S.4. is calculated: Crash: Aug. 6, 1995 4:58 if you wish further text, audio or video information please get into http://iis.joanneum.ac.at/kriesche/biennale95.html [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Well! Hmmm ... I certainly get interesting mail in a day's time. PAT] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 17:48:30 -0500 Subject: National Information Infrastructure Course From: gcm@farnsworth.mit.edu (Gillian Cable-Murphy) (by way of rjs@rpcp.mit.edu (Richard Jay Solomon)) COURSE ANNOUNCEMENT There are still a few places left for participation in MIT's three-day short course on the National Information Infrastructure: Corporate Planning and Government Policy, June 20-22,1995. The web site for further information is: http://rpcp.mit.edu/Workshops/1995-NIIcourse.html Please call Dr. Lee McKnight at 617-253-0995 or email: mcknight@rpcp.mit.edu if you have any questions. NII Course Agenda, MIT, June 20-22, 1995 *Tuesday, June 20, 1995* 9:00AM Course Introduction and Overview 9:30 Stakeholders and Interests in the NII: Lee McKnight, Richard Solomon, and Russ Neuman 11:00 Coffee Break 11:15 Inside the Beltway: Lee McKnight 12:00 Lunch (Provided) 1:00 Internet and the Global Information Infrastructure: Richard Solomon, Russ Neuman, and Lee McKnight 2:30 Discussion 3:00 Break: DIIG Demo 3:15 Strategic Alliances and the Blurring of Boundaries Russ Neuman and Richard Solomon 5:00 Break 6:00 Reception *Wednesday, June 21, 1995* 9:00AM Digital Architecture: Standards and Interoperability Branko Gerovac, Richard Solomon, and David Carver 10:15 Coffee Break 10:30 Modeling Interoperability, Symmetrical Access, and Local Access: David Carver, Joe Bailey, and David Gingold 11:30 Wireless Services: Richard Solomon Spectrum Auctions: Lee McKnight 12:30 Lunch Break 1:30 Broadband Architectures and Services Paul Bosco and Richard Solomon 2:45 Break 3:00 GII Opportunities Roundtable/Participants Moderated by Richard Solomon 5:00 Break 6:00 Reception 7:00 Dinner *Thursday, June 22,1995* 9:00AM Assesing Demand for Advanced Communcation and Information Services: Russ Neuman 10:15 Coffee Break 10:30 Networked Multimedia Information Services Demo, Tour of CAES, and Discussion of World Wide Web Applications 12:30 Lunch (Provided) 1:30 Business Plan Exercise: Lee McKnight and Russ Neuman 3:00 Discussion of GII Business Opportunities: Lee McKnight 4:00 Conclusion ------------------------------ From: VanGils, Andy Subject: Experience Switching Canadian Cellular Service? Date: Wed, 07 Jun 95 12:05:00 PDT I am in the process of evaluating national cellular service providers for my employer, a Canadian company. There are two options: Mobility Canada (CellNet) and Cantel (Rogers). The cellulars are concentrated in Calgary, Toronto, and Ottawa/Hull. I would greatly appreciate the details of any experience readers may have in moving 50+ cellulars from one service provider to the other. At Pat's discretion, you can respond to me directly or post to the Digest. Thank you. Andy VanGils Email: atvang@ingr.com Telecom Coordinator Fax: (403) 569-5805 Intergraph Canada Phone: (403) 569-5553 ------------------------------ From: a10271@email.mot.com (Allan Bourque) Subject: NTI and Peer to Peer Connection Organization: Motorola Date: Wed, 07 Jun 1995 19:25:50 GMT Hello, I am looking for information on setting up some NTI PBX's on a peer to peer connection. I realize that NTI does not yet have direct support for ethernet (although it is rumored that the ethernet port on the Commercial Processor, Option 81, 61C, 51C etc, will give this), I am more looking at some type of serial protocol converter to allow SDI input/output to be connected via PTP. If anyone has tried this, I am interested in how you did it, and with what type of equipment. Thanks in advance, Allan Bourque ------------------------------ From: engineer@netcom.com (COASTCOM) Subject: Question on ATT Pub 41450 Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 23:31:13 GMT I am designing a 56kbps CSU/DSU based on ATT Pub 41450. My question is on paragraph 8.2 of the spec - Remote Control of Test Modes from the DDS Test Center. What scheme does the test center use to put a DSU into remote loopback - V.54, a DDS-type loopback, or some other type? Is it spelled out in a later spec? Thanks for your help, Brian Gilmore engineer@netcom.com ------------------------------ From: Vince Wolodkin Subject: Information Wanted on American Communication Services, Inc. Date: Wed, 7 Jun 95 00:05:21 -0500 Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice) Has anyone ever heard of American Communication Services Inc. They trade on the NASDAQ small cap index as ACNS. They are a developing CAP operating mainly in the South US. Any information on this company would be greatly appreciated. Vince ------------------------------ From: jsulmar@shore.net (Joe Sulmar) Subject: Re: CTI Application Wanted For Data Collection Date: 7 Jun 1995 13:48:24 GMT Organization: Telecommunications Consultant In article , boswell@primenet.com (william boswell) says: > I need a reliable (read rock solid) CTI app that will collect data > from callers via the phone's keypad and save that to a file that I can > incorporate into a database I'm designing. > This is my vision: caller dials number and gets message: > "Enter authorization code." > Caller does so and is authenticated. > "Enter daily sales volume" > Caller enters ##### (whatever number) and terminates with pound sign or > whatever. > Application saves input into flat file for later merge into database. > Any help appreciated. Bill: I have a lot of experience integrating this kind of system. I can build it for you if you wish. The system configuration will be influenced by the following issues: 1. What is your estimated call volume? When you install your voice response unit (VRU), you will need to decide how many concurrent callers you need to serve. To do this, you might start with an estimate of your total daily calls, and the average call duration. Next, estimate how many total "connect" minutes are expected during the busiest hour. Then, specify what service level is necessary (what percent of the calls should get a busy signal?). Using Erlang C formulas, you can then determine how many ports (phone lines, simultaneous callers) are necessary. A single fast computer (486 or pentium) running OS/2 or UNIX can handle up to (approx.) 48 simultaneous callers using modern voice processing hardware. 2. What type of phone number will be used? The type of phone service influences the selection of the voice processing hardware. If you are using POTS lines, you'll need analog voice processing hardware. If you're using DID, you'll need to use specially configured hardware. If you plan to use "800" type numbers, you might save a lot of money by using T1 service to the carrier's POP. 3. How will the valid authorization codes be defined? How often will they be updated? This will influence the type of database you'll use. You'll need to decide whether to use a local database engine running on the VRU, or if a networked server is best. Of course, if you try to use a networked server, performance considerations become critical. The size of the database is also a consideration. For many applications, BTRIEVE is a good, inexpensive choice for OS/2 environments, and Informix should be considered for UNIX environments. 4. Will the VRU be located at a staffed or un-staffed location? This will determine the level of remote maintenance capability required by the system. 5. Will the "merge into database" be performed manually, or automatically? As I said earlier, you'll probably use a 486/pentium machine, running OS/2 or UNIX (NT might also be considered, but the available drivers and tools for the older operating systems tend to be more mature and stable at this time). There are some Windows run-time tools available, but I think Windows is not sufficiently reliable, especially if you need remote maintenance capability. You will then need to select what brand/type of voice processing subsystem to use. Choose from the following list: Market leaders: Natural Microsystems (508) 650-1300 Dialogic (201) 993-3030 Rhetorex (408) 370-0881 Other vendors: Linkon (212) 753-2544 Pica (613) 591-1555 New Voice (703) 648-0585 Bicom (203)268-4484 To program your application, you can choose from the following options: 1. Develop from scratch in "C". 2. Use one of the commercially available applicatoins generators. (your voice processing hardware vendor can recommend) 3. Use one of the commercially available "scripting" languages. There are some"extended Basic-like" languages out there, with hooks capable of interfacingwith your voice processing hardware. There also a few Visual Basic programming tools available, but I have already voiced my opinion of Windows and NT for run-time reliability. Of course, you can buy all of the above, already integrated (except for the specific programming of you application)with a service contract from a VRU manufacturer, e.g. AVT (206)820-6000 or Brite Voice (316) 652-6500. Good luck, and let me know if I can be of further assistance! Joseph J. Sulmar (jsulmar@shore.net) Computer-Telephony Consultant Lexington, MA ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #275 ****************************** Received: from ns1.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa20298; 8 Jun 95 13:53 EDT Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id EAA25054 for telecomlist-outbound; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 04:50:09 -0500 Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id EAA25046; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 04:50:07 -0500 Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 04:50:07 -0500 From: TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson) Message-Id: <199506080950.EAA25046@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #276 TELECOM Digest Thu, 8 Jun 95 04:50:00 CDT Volume 15 : Issue 276 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Caller-ID With Name From Centrex (Mark Cuccia) TSPS Operator Boards (Lee Winson) Cord Board Toll and Assistance (Lee Winson) Least Cost Routing Question (Masoud Loghmani) Re: CD Changer For Music on Hold (Dave Levenson) Re: CD Changer For Music on Hold (Gary Feld) Re: Meridian SL1 - Information Pointers? (Allan Bourque) Re: Meridian SL1 - Information Pointers? (Gary Feld) Re: ANI vs Caller-ID (Jeffrey Rhodes) Re: Difference between "A" and "B" Cell Systems? (Phil Brown) Re: Difference between "A" and "B" Cell Systems? (Bob Wilkins) Re: Telecom Finland to Use DCS 1800 to Back up GSM (Yves Blondeel) Re: "Fax Mailbox" Type Services - How They Work (Patrick M. Mirucki) Re: "Fax Mailbox" Type Services - How They Work (James Dollar) Re: "Fax Mailbox" Type Services - How They Work (Doug Sewell) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of public service systems and networks including Compuserve and America On Line. It is also gatewayed to Usenet where it appears as the moderated newsgroup 'comp.dcom.telecom'. Subscriptions are available to qualified organizations and individual readers. Write and tell us how you qualify: * telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu * The Digest is edited, published and compilation-copyrighted by Patrick Townson of Skokie, Illinois USA. You can reach us by postal mail, fax or phone at: 9457-D Niles Center Road Skokie, IL USA 60076 Phone: 500-677-1616 Fax: 708-329-0572 ** Article submission address only: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu ** Our archives are located at lcs.mit.edu and are available by using anonymous ftp. The archives can also be accessed using our email information service. 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Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Cuccia Subject: Caller-ID With Name From Centrex Date: Wed, 07 Jun 95 16:45:00 GMT About a year ago, the Orleans Parish (county) School Board went to a 'City-Wide Centrex'. I am an election poll-worker, and the precinct where I work at is at a neighborhood elementary school. Prior to the conversion to city centrex, when I would call someone (locally) with Caller-ID with NAME, the number of the line I was calling from, plus the name of the actual school would show up on the box. Since converting to city centrex, the name shows up as 'Orleans Parish'. City Hall's offices are on a centrex within the 'main' SCBell switch. Calls comming from city council staff offices and other city hall offices show up as 'City of New Orleans' (I think is is truncated after so many characters). Calls from the public (taxpayer supported) hospital's PBX or Centrex all show up 'Charity Hospital' with a number. Calls from MOST hospitals are from a PBX (an outgoing trunk line shows up, with the name of the hospital). Calls from hospitals on what I think to be a Centrex show up with the name of the hospital and the number which rings right to the room. Also, those centrex hospitals have no extra delay when I call in. *69 WILL quote back the number in all cases, but does NOT necessarily allow me to *69 'back' to the number - under 'normal' circumstances, you can 'flash' (dialpulse/rotary '1') or touch (DTMF) '1' and *69 will either ring to that number OR put you in a queue if that number is 'busy'; *69 also does NOT allow me to ring back to calls originating via WILTEL or local SCB calls from an SCB Telco payphone, but in both cases, it does quote the number. Caller ID does NOT show numbers originating via the 'A' or 'B' Cellular systems in New Orleans - you get OUT OF AREA. All *69 says that 'Touchstar' is not available for that number on ANY out-of-area calls. A call originating from Baton Rouge LA via Wiltel showed the name with the number and time on my ID box. Back to the 'city-wide-centrex' with the Public Schools -- ALL line numbers were changed when the School Board went to this type of centrex -- but the numbers were still assigned as part of their geographic wirecenter switches -- and ALL outgoing calls out of the Centrex service list had to be prefixed with 9. Payphones usually show up on caller-ID with the line number and the name 'PAYPHONE', whether Bell or Private. In a few cases, if the payphone is ALSO the directory number of the business it is located at, the name of the business (sometimes truncated) will show instead of the word Payphone (again whether Bell or Private). ALSO, calls from any FED alphabet soup agency locally (Post Office, FCC, IRS, congressmen offices, etc) show the number of the originating line (in its geographic wirecenter switch) but the display 'U S GOVERNMENT' and I think that is truncated at some point. I don't know if what agency is calling, but I do have an idea as to where in the area it is located -- similar to the Public Schools city-wide-centrex situation. MARK J. CUCCIA PHONE/WRITE/WIRE: Work: mcuccia@law.tulane.edu UNiversity 5-5954 (TEL, +1 504 865 5954) UNiversity 5-5917 (FAX, +1 504 865 5917) Home: 4710 Wright Road New Orleans 28 Louisiana (70128) USA CHestnut 1-2497 (Home Tel) (fwds.on busy/no-answr.to cellphone/voicemail) (+1 504 241 2497) ------------------------------ From: turner7@pacsibm.org (Lee Winson) Subject: TSPS Operator Boards Date: 7 Jun 1995 22:11:34 GMT Organization: PACS IBM SIG BBS TSPS stood for "Traffic Service Position System". It replaced an older system "Traffic Service Position". To the operators, the consoles and operation were very similar. I believe behind the scenes TSPS was electronic and programmable, while TSP was not. To customers, when TSP/TSPS came the big change was automated dialed for 0+ calls (collect, credit card, 3rd party, notify, etc) and 1+ calls from coin. In other words, before TSP, the only dialable long distance were station 1+ from NON-coin phones. All other LD calls had to go through the operator. With TSP, 1+ (station) calls from coin phones went through fast. The operator got a display of the amount due (since the customer already dialed the number the machine knew what amount to display), and the operator orally requested and collected the amount. The machine did timing, and got an operator back on for overtime. Likewise for 0+ calls, the operator didn't have to ascertain the calling data. For credit card calls, she could merely key the number in Operator rooms were much more pleasant -- TSP has nice consoles in carpeted rooms, unlike the cramped noisy cord boards. However, many veteran operators preferred the manual handling of calls via cord -- they felt more involved. Operators enjoyed the occassional special cord where, despite automation, she had to relay the call through toll centers the old way. (Around 1980, I had trouble placing an LD call, and the operator routed this way -- very interesting how she called up the various toll centers. I suppose this kind of manual handling isn't done any more.) As time went on, many of these features were further automated -- now 1+ coin calls are handled wholly by machine, as are credit card calls. In my area (NW Philadelphia), our straight 0 (operator) calls were handled through a traditional cord board in one location, while our 1+ coin and all 0+ were handled at another. Are the TSPS consoles still used or have they been replaced with real computer terminals? (TSPS had "nixie tubes" displaying just digits.) ------------------------------ From: turner7@pacsibm.org (Lee Winson) Subject: Cord Board Toll and Assistance Date: 7 Jun 1995 22:14:40 GMT Organization: PACS IBM SIG BBS Is anyone familiar with _cord_ board toll and assistance switchboards? I think the Bell System got rid of the last one around 1985. There were plenty around in the late 1970s. In my area, we had TSPS handle our long distance, but basic 0 still went to a cord board. I was wondering what kind of jack options, cord keys, and special keys the operators had -- how much control did they have over routing calls? For instance, to connect a local call, did the operator have jack strips for various local exchanges, or merely dial the whole seven digit number? (I assume they didn't have jacks for every line.) Thanks. ------------------------------ From: Masoud Loghmani Subject: Least Cost Routing Question Date: 7 Jun 1995 23:06:26 GMT Organization: Digital Technics Inc. Hi, I am designing a least-cost-routing function for a switch. I was wondering whether I should allow separate routing tables on a per-tenant basis, or whether a single system-wide routing table would be sufficient. I am kind of hung in the middle, and would appreciate any suggestion that would help me choose the way to go. Thanks, Masoud Loghmani dti@access.digex.net http://www.access.digex.net/~dti/index.html ------------------------------ From: dave@westmark.com (Dave Levenson) Subject: Re: CD Changer For Music on Hold Organization: Westmark, Inc. Date: Thu, 08 Jun 1995 00:42:37 GMT Jerry Aguirre (jerry@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com) writes: > I am thinking about getting a CD changer and feeding it into the music > on hold port of our PBX. Any negative issues to doing this? I would > appreciate any experience people have with particular models or > features that make this more practical. > Any speculation on how long a CD changer would last in continuous > loop 24 hour a day use? I think the broadcast industry uses heavy-duty CD changers that will last an eternity. But watch out for the lawyers when you're buying CDs for this use. Most of the recorded entertainment you can buy is explicitly licensed only for personal entertainment at home and other very limited uses. Using it for music-on-hold is probably a violation of this license, and may result in your being charged for royalties by ASCAP, BMI, or some similar organization. Dave Levenson Internet: dave@westmark.com Westmark, Inc. UUCP: uunet!westmark!dave Stirling, NJ, USA Voice: 908 647 0900 Fax: 908 647 6857 ------------------------------ From: gfeld@usa.nai.net (Gary Feld) Subject: Re: CD Changer For Music on Hold Date: 08 Jun 1995 01:43:56 GMT Organization: North American Internet Company jerry@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Jerry Aguirre) writes: > I am thinking about getting a CD changer and feeding it into the music > on hold port of our PBX. Any negative issues to doing this? I would > appreciate any experience people have with particular models or > features that make this more practical. > Any speculation on how long a CD changer would last in continuous > loop 24 hour a day use? We normally use a "Walkman" or "Boom Box" type. I prefer the "Boom Box" because it gives you both tape and radio back-up to the CD. The tape is useful for occasional "advertising on hold" messages, while the radio is appreciated during crisis periods (ie Desert Storm). Make sure the tape is the auto-reverse kind. The first two I installed were Sony units. Cutover was in January 1992. One lasted about two years of continuous playing, the other is still going strong. Not bad for $120 apiece. Gary Feld Information Technology Management Helping People Use Telecommunications and Computers to Create Value ------------------------------ From: a10271@email.mot.com (Allan Bourque) Subject: Re: Meridian SL1 - Information Pointers? Organization: Motorola Date: Thu, 08 Jun 1995 07:47:48 GMT brisco@rab.ieee.org (Thomas P. Brisco) wrote: > Our tech rep indicates that our "Meridian SL1 with Option 61" > can hand off an analog line. However, I also know that we're running > some digital protocol between the PBX and our multi-line sets. When I > inquire as to what this protocol is, he tells me "Its digital" (big > help). The Digital protocol is a Northen Telecom propriatary interface. The Meridian 2000 sets, (2616, 2008 etc.) run through this interface, which is really a 64k digital circuit speed-wise. > Additionally; I've been working with a different group here as > well and attempting to verify the configuration of the switch. The > salescritter and tech rep claim "it can't be done". We're looking for > some way to "map out" the configuration showing what calls should be > going where when (this is primarily to verify that the system is > configured the way that we believe it is.) To me, this sounds like a > relatively straight-foward graphing problem. The tough part is > getting the configuration data off the blasted machine. Again, the > critters we have servicing us indicate that this is some hugely > complex task -- which (frankly) I just don't believe. There are several different ways to look at this. You may want to investigate your BARS database LD 90, 87, 86. This is where you will need to look to see where your trunked calls are going. You can also look at the CFN in LD 22, this tells you the hardware configuration. > -- but it's on some seriously screwy *4MB* (yes, 4MB) 3.25" floppy. > I'd be interested also in finding out where I could get one of these > drives. Check out the high end computer stores. I know of a few people that have them, but I don't know where they got them. Hope this helps, I have been working on Meridian 1 PBX's for several years, and if there is any other info that I can help with let me know. Allan Bourque a10271@email.mot.com ------------------------------ From: gfeld@usa.nai.net (Gary Feld) Subject: Re: Meridian SL1 - Information Pointers? Date: 08 Jun 1995 02:07:18 GMT Organization: North American Internet Company brisco@rab.ieee.org (Thomas P. Brisco) writes: > I've been working with someone locally to try and get a > Fax-On-Demand system ("single call" configuration) -- and I'm > attempting to have it as closely integrated into the existing > environment as possible. > Our Meridian reps aren't making this easy. Some stuff ommitted > This makes me worried about his information regarding the > ability to do an analog handoff. More stuff ommitted. Thomas, if your question is "Can I hook up a Fax on Demand (or any other analog service like modem, voice mail, answering machine, etc)" to analog ports on my SL-1 Option 61 and have it work?" the answer is yes. The digital connectivity of proprietary phones deals with how the PABX communicates with its telephones (lights lights, paints displays, etc) as well as carries the phone conversation. An analog port simply carries the conversation. If your concerns go deeper, conact me via E-mail and we may be able to help you out. Regards, Gary Feld Information Technology Management Helping People Use Telecommunications and Computers to Create Value ------------------------------ From: jcr@creator.nwest.mccaw.com (Jeffrey Rhodes) Subject: Re: ANI vs Caller-ID Date: 7 Jun 1995 20:20:30 GMT Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc. Reply-To: jcr@creator.nwest.mccaw.com ANI is not CALLER ID. ANI is the billing number; Caller ID is the Calling Party Number (CPN) delivered by ISUP SS7 signaling. A cellular call to an 1-800 number is usually delivered on Type 1 trunks to the nearest LEC End Office (EO) using MF trunks without ANI delivery (FGD is needed for ANI). The EO translates the 800 call and delivers the call via FGD to a tandem office (TO) which performs a dip to an SCP to determine the 800 carrier (800 Number portability) and then routes the call to that carrier who makes another SCP dip to get the translated number. The ANI delivered to the carrier is the trunk id of the EO to TO, or it could be based on the trunk id from the cellular office to the EO. If the TO uses ISUP SS7 to the 800 carrier, the ANI is passed in the Calling Party Number. Technically, the ANI is contained in the ISUP IAM Charging Number when the ANI and the CPN are different. For example, a call from an ISDN PBX could have a Charging Number of the PBX and a CPN of the PBX extension number. 1-800 calls can be given from the cellular office to the TO via MF FGD, in which case the ANI is a dummy for the cellular office. ISUP SS7 is not available from LEC TOs to cellular carriers for FGD-type access to long distance carriers. The cellular office indicates CIC=110 to alert the TO to make the first SCP dip. AT&T Wireless in Portland, OR has ISUP connections to the LEC TOs. 1-800 calls are routed, per Equal Access Consent Decree, to the LEC's TOs via MF FGD. In Portland, any CELL ONE subscriber or roamer is able to deliver their CPN to Portland landlines by prefixing *82 to the dialed number and then press SEND (or block CPN by default or by prefixing *67). So it will be a long time before any cellular caller is able to hear their ANI from the 1-800-MYANIIS translated number. It will not be a long time before certain cellular callers are able to deliver their CPN between carriers (December 1995). Jeffrey Rhodes at jcr@creator.nwest.mccaw.com ------------------------------ From: pdbrown@mindspring.com (Phil Brown) Subject: Re: Difference between "A" and "B" Cell Systems? Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 10:33:27 -0400 Organization: MindSpring Enterprises, Inc. In article Greg Tompkins writes: > What exactly is the difference between "A" and "B" cell systems? I am > currently on GTE Mobilnet in Portland, Oregon and was just wondering. > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: "B" systems are those systems owned and > operated by the local 'wireline telco' of record in the community being > served. "A" systems are those operated by 'someone else'; typically a > telco from another town. Ameritech is the "B" carrier in Chicago because > it operates the phone company here; it is the "A" carrier in some other > places. Likewise, Southwestern Bell Mobility is the "B" carrier in > St. Louis where they are also the phone company, but here in Chicago > Southwestern Bell is the "A" carrier, operating under the name Cellular > One. Is that all clear as mud? Many/most "A" carriers use the franchise > name 'Cellular One' for their activities while the "B" carriers use > whatever name they use. PAT] Actually, the difference is even more fundamental than that. A total of 50 MHz is available to cellular service providers (25 MHz each for land and mobile transmitters -- that's how you get full duplex!) in the 800 MHz band (in North America). A-band carriers operate at roughly 824-835 and 869-880 MHz (the details of the channelization aren't worth bothering with here) and B-band carriers operate at 835-849 and 880-894 MHz. NOTE: A 1.5 MHz "slice" of spectrum is reserved for the "A" side toward the end of what I've identified as belonging to the "B" side). As Pat pointed out, when the FCC first licensed cellular it assumed that most -- if not all -- local phone companies would want a franchise, so the "B" band of frequencies was assigned to them in those markets where an interest was expressed in operating the service. "A" side frequencies were awarded to licensees via a (form of) lottery, which resulted in some of the Mom & Pop systems still in operation today. There were, and are, regulations and restrictions governing the sale of licenses, but through acquisition many "B" side carriers also operate "A" side franchises -- such as Southwestern Bell in Chicago and Boston (outside of its LEC markets, of course), and GTE in much of the Southeast (through its acquisition of what used to be Providence-Journal Cellular). Hope that helps. Phil Brown GTE Mobilnet Manager, Advanced Technology Planning Phil Brown | Atlanta, GA, USA pdbrown@mindspring.com -or- xstential1@aol.com ------------------------------ From: rwilkins@ccnet.com (Bob Wilkins n6fri) Subject: Re: Difference between "A" and "B" Cell Systems? Date: 7 Jun 1995 19:01:20 -0700 Organization: home in the cAVe > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: "B" systems are those systems owned and > operated by the local 'wireline telco' of record in the community being > served. "A" systems are those operated by 'someone else'; typically a > telco from another town. PAT] The "B" carrier here in central California is GTE known for its wireline nothing fancy plain old telephone service in the small Town of Los Gatos. The GTE cellular system covers Santa Barbara to Cloverdale, a seven hour drive local call. Pac*Bell the RBOC in the area put their money into the "A" carrier. We allways thought GTE was a telco from an other town. Bob Wilkins work bwilkins@cave.org Berkeley, California home rwilkins@ccnet.com 94701-0710 play n6fri@n6eeg.#nocal.ca.usa.noam ------------------------------ From: Yves Blondeel Subject: Re: Telecom Finland to Use DCS 1800 to Back up GSM Date: 7 Jun 1995 16:39:56 GMT Organization: T-REGS d92-sam@sham69.nada.kth.se (Sam Spens Clason) wrote: > There is an EC directive that says that 900 MHz should be reserved > for GSM and that other analog networks should be "phased out" but > that certain considerations should be made. Presumably you are referring to Council Directive 87/372/EEC of 25 June 1987 on the frequency bands to be reserved for the coordinated introduction of public pan-European cellular digital land-based mobile communications in the Community. I am not aware of ANY European Union measure calling for the "phasing out" of older analogue networks. The closest I have seen is the "whereas" in this Directive which says "whereas on the basis of present technological and market trends (*back in 1987 I remind you*) it would appear realistic to envisage the exclusive occupation of the 890-915 and 935-960 MHz frequency bands by the pan-European system within 10 years of 1 January 1991." Please tell me where you found the "phasing out" statement. For information: there is also a Council Recommendation 97/371/EEC of 25 June 1987 and a Council Resolution 90/C 166/02 of 28 June 1990 which relate to GSM frequencies. *Sam's Comments on Sweden - very interesting* > Most probably 1800 will eventually be used just as in Finland, but > no decisions have yet been made. I was under the impression that Telestyrelsen (the Swedish regulatory authority for telecommunications) was preparing to grant up to five specific DCS 1800 licences (some or all of which might be regional rather than nation-wide). > My reflection to all this is will the introduction of DCS make GSM > cheaper, i.e. will the prices drop to LD rate? Any experiences from > the UK or Germany? I am not a market analyst but I would say without much hesitation that the UK mobile communications market was a fairly cosy duopoly until the arrival of the two DCS 1800 operators. Mercury One-2-One entered the market with very innovative tariffing schemes (such as free local calls after business hours). As for Germany, tariffs are going down, but I think it's early to attribute this very clearly to the arrival of E-Plus. The French Bouygues Telecom network is not yet operational. Bouygues Telecom has stated in its bid for the DCS 1800 licence that it expects to use its network infrastructure to compete with France Telecom for the provision of voice telephony (in the long run). The use of DCS 1800 frequencies for the provision of public mobile services in France is reserved exclusively to Bouygues Telecom for a limited period of 4 years but only in the five largest metropolitan areas of France, i.e. Paris, Lyon, Marseille, Lille and Nice. During this 4 year period, the two GSM operators will be excluded from using the DCS 1800 frequencies in the metropolitan areas of Paris, Lyon, Marseille, Lille and Nice, except if they can demonstrate and justify that, within a specified geographical area and within strictly defined technical parameters, the 900 MHz frequency band is saturated. France Telecom and Societe Frangaise du Radiotelephone (SFR), the two GSM and analogue cellular operators, have each been granted an authorisation for the operation, on an experimental basis, of a DCS 1800 network in and around a single regional capital (Toulouse for France Telecom and Strasbourg for SFR). Yves Blondeel ------------------------------ From: Patriick@ix.netcom.com (Patrick M. Mirucki) Subject: Re: "Fax Mailbox" Type Services - How They Work, Which Are Good Date: Wed, 07 Jun 1995 23:41:51 GMT Organization: Video Kraftwerks, Inc. picard@silcom.com (Donald Burr) wrote: > My roommate and I would like to be able to receive FAXes. However, > due to various reasons that would take too long to get into, we cannot > have a second phone line in our apartment, and we can't afford a fax > machine, or to have a computer on 24 hours a day. > I've heard of "fax mailbox" type services that will give you a phone > number that people can send FAXes to. Then you call in at a later > time and pick up any FAXes waiting for you. It kinda works like an > answering machine or voice mail, but it's for FAX transmissions. Why not use a distinctive ringing service? [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I think you miss the point. If they could afford a fax machine, or to have a computer turned on at all times, then distinctive ringing would be a solution since only those 'distinct' calls would ever reach the computer they left turned on or the fax machine they cannot afford. But not being able to do those things, a third-party 'fax mailbox' seemed like a solution. Ameritech offers such services by the way, but only through dealers, not direct from the company itself. PAT] ------------------------------ From: Jame$ Dollar Subject: Re: "Fax Mailbox" Type Services - How They Work, Which Are Good Date: 7 Jun 1995 12:49:03 GMT Organization: Coca-Cola picard@silcom.com (Donald Burr) wrote: > My roommate and I would like to be able to receive FAXes. > I've heard of "fax mailbox" type services that will give you a phone > number that people can send FAXes to. Then you call in at a later > time and pick up any FAXes waiting for you. It kinda works like an > answering machine or voice mail, but it's for FAX transmissions. One service that I am evaluating from NetOffice(.com) gives me a fax number in the Atlanta area and converts the faxes to tiff format. I then log in with my web browser and view or download the fax. The service runs ~$25/month. I'm sure there are other ways, I just like the ones that use the Internet! Good luck! j$ ------------------------------ From: doug@cc.ysu.edu (Doug Sewell) Subject: Re: "Fax Mailbox" Type Services - How They Work, Which Are Good Date: 7 Jun 1995 09:55:52 -0400 Organization: Youngstown State University The local "A" cellular service (Wilcom Cellular, Youngstown/Warren OH) offers fax mailboxes. I don't have the literature in front of me, and I've never tried it. I believe you get a dedicated phone number, just like voice mail. I don't remember whether you call your own number, or a special "pick up" number, to get your own faxes based on your mailbox number and a PIN. You can pick up messages with a fax machine. If the interface is designed "right" there should be no difficulties using a fax modem. Doug Sewell (doug@cc.ysu.edu) (http://cc.ysu.edu/doug) ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #276 ****************************** Received: from delta.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa01618; 8 Jun 95 23:11 EDT Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA11081 for telecomlist-outbound; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 17:07:42 -0500 Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA11071; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 17:07:38 -0500 Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 17:07:38 -0500 From: TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson) Message-Id: <199506082207.RAA11071@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #277 TELECOM Digest Thu, 8 Jun 95 17:07:00 CDT Volume 15 : Issue 277 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Re: I Just Bought a CT2 Phone and I Love It (James Dollar) Re: I Just Bought a CT2 Phone and I Love It (Andrew C. Green) Re: I Just Bought a CT2 Phone and I Love It (Lim Hui Lin) Re: Telephone Voice "Broadcast" Software? 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Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jame$ Dollar Subject: Re: I Just Bought a CT2 Phone and I Love It Date: 7 Jun 1995 12:57:39 GMT Organization: Coca-Cola >> I thought I'd let you know that I just bought a CT2 phone (digital >> cordless phone) and I love it. Is it popular in the U.S.? > Well Eric, not yet. Bandwidth (1.9 GHz range) was only allocated in > the states a few weeks ago. The protocol to be used has not yet been > determined; however, Canada's NorTel had developed the CT2+ protocol > (& turned down a CT3 protocol from Ericson) about two years ago. > Residential product has not been made available for sale yet, but > private (campus, institutional and corporate) systems have been > available & being sold since then. Is this available Canada or the US as private systems? Who is selling this product? Thanks! j$ [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Not at the present time I don't think. PAT] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 9:31:18 CDT From: Andrew C. Green Subject: Re: I Just Bought a CT2 Phone and I Love It Alex van Es (Alex@Worldaccess.NL) writes: > I have tried to locate the frequency of the phone with my > scanner, but I have been unable to locate it (so far). > According to my to my information it should be between 864 > and 868 mhz or between 1880 and 1900 mhz. I think "between" is the operative word here; if the phone is configured the same way Ameritech did it during their PCS test here in Chicago, you won't find it on your scanner. It doesn't operate on any one fixed frequency, but rather bounces all over the range. Andrew C. Green (312) 266-4431 Frame Advanced Product Services 441 W. Huron Internet: acg@frame.com Chicago, IL 60610-3498 FAX: (312) 266-4473 ------------------------------ From: huilin@sgp.hp.com (Lim Hui Lin) Subject: Re: I Just Bought a CT2 Phone and I Love It Date: 7 Jun 1995 08:33:36 GMT Organization: Hewlett Packard We also have CT2 here in Singapore (Callzone) and the product is the Motorola Silverlink too. The phone itself costs ~S$250 while the personal base station (for home use as a cordless phone) costs ~S$300. Calls are 20cents/min (double the cost of public phones but equivalent to that of cellular phones). I'd like to have one but can't justify it since you can actually get cell phones for about S$700. (currently US$1 ~= S$1.5) Hui-Lin Lim - Singapore Networks Operation, Hewlett Packard Singapore telnet: 520 8763 phone: +65 279 8763 fax: +65 272 2780 mail: huilin@hpsgns1.sgp.hp.com DESK: Hui-Lin Lim/HPSGIT ------------------------------ From: petercd1@ix.netcom.com (Peter Duthie ) Subject: Re: Telephone Voice "Broadcast" Software? Date: 8 Jun 1995 16:32:45 GMT Organization: Netcom In dkl@crl.com (David K. Leikam) writes: >> Harold Hallikainen wrote: >>> Anyway, the school where I teach is interested in software >>> that would do something similar to a fax broadcast, but it would be >>> voice. They'd have a list of the students in a particular class and >>> if the class were cancelled, the system could call each of them and >>> let them know. > But I'm wondering if there's some simple PC software that could also > do it. > and paraprasing here, Harold said, for about $70. Hello Direct markets a gadet called a "Phone Tree". It can call up to 1,000 people. For details contact Hello Direct at: http://www.hello-direct.com/hd/ I haven't tried this device, but it sounds like what you might be looking for. Peter ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Jun 1995 13:54:32 EDT From: Michael D. Sullivan Subject: Re: Telephone Voice "Broadcast" Software For what it's worth, Bell Atlantic has begun offering what amounts to outgoing voice mail ("T-mail" or telephone mail) in Montgomery County, Md. (outside Washington, DC). You can store up to three lists of 25 recipients and send a recorded message to one or more lists. Charges are usage-based, with no monthly charge during the test (I think charges are about 15 or 25 cents per message, with the lower charge if you already have their voice mail service). Michael D. Sullivan | INTERNET E-MAIL TO: mds@access.digex.net Bethesda, Md., USA | also avogadro@well.com, 74160.1134@compuserve.com ------------------------------ From: winans@xray.aps.anl.gov (John R. Winans) Subject: Re: Low Cost Router Alternatives? Date: 08 Jun 1995 12:24:30 GMT Organization: Argonne National Laboratory, Chicago Illinois In article art@ritz.mordor.com (ZEI) writes: > Does anyone swear by a super low cost router alternative that can > migrate from 56K to T1? > I am interested in reliability / problems / costs. > I imagine this working with Linux / ethernet on intel box. What is your definition of low cost? I have been using a Proteon RBX-200 to handle connectivity to my house since January. It has 1 ether (AUI) and two WAN (V.35) ports on it that can run up to T1 speeds. You can find them for $1300 complete with software and cables. The full DOCs are extra at about $150. You can probably do a PPP or Proteon serial config without the DOCs, but if you have any trouble, you'll need them. The RBX-200 talks PPP, Frame Relay, Proteon-custom serial, and a couple of others that I don't remember right now. And it also includes all the fancy routing software. I went with Proteon because the backorder on Cisco was insane. It seems that there are ALOT of telcos and ISPs out there recommending the 2501. It is priced in the same ballpark as the RBX-200. But Cisco unbundled the thing and its software to the Nth degree. I found no reasonable assistance in figuring out what I really needed to order. And those that claimed to carry the thing were all out of stock with a nasty backlog. *MY* problem has been finding reasonable prices on CSU/DSUs. But some telcos require you to use theirs anyway, so you might not need to buy your own. If you are REALLY into it, you can poke around a mailing list that I am on looking for John Paul Morrison. He posted a note on 95-04-30 that included the following snipit: > What I'm trying to do is write free (GPL? BSD license?) software to > make the MCU68360 into a bridge or IP router using the ethernet and > going to one or more of its built in high speed serial interfaces. I > just want to go from ethernet to T1, but if I get anything working, > maybe other people can use this for etheret to ISDN or a terminal > server etc. A PCB will be made later on (basically the '360, DRAM, > EPROM, ethernet and glue logic). > I'm using the Motorola QUADS board for testing. I'm hosting the > compiler on Linux (Intel) John Paul Morrison's email address is jmorriso@bogomips.ee.ubc.ca. The list I am on is crossgcc@prosun.first.gmd.de. It is a forum of GCC users that are working on things like the Cygnus PD libc code, and an assortment of embedded OS codes. I'd be REALLY interested in hearing about what you come up with in this area. John Winans Advanced Photon Source (Controls) winans@aps.anl.gov Argonne National Laboratory, Illinois ------------------------------ From: kadokev@ripco.com (Kevin Kadow) Subject: Re: Low Cost Router Alternatives? Organization: Ripco Internet BBS, Chicago Date: Thu, 08 Jun 1995 03:52:19 GMT In article , ZEI wrote: > Does anyone swear by a super low cost router alternative that can > migrate from 56K to T1? > I am interested in reliability / problems / costs. > I imagine this working with Linux / ethernet on intel box. Sure -- just get a low-end workstation and add a V.35 serial interface. This is doable at 56K, but if you go much beyond that, don't expect the box to be usable for much of anything else. Plus, if the workstation goes down, so does your network connection. kadokev@msg.net Kevin Kadow Yes, I do speak for MSG.Net -- http://msg.net/ ------------------------------ From: David Hough Subject: Re: Oppose Mandatory Touch-Tone $ervice - Your Action Needed Date: Wed, 07 Jun 95 13:03:51 GMT Organization: Chaotic I have never understood why US companies charge extra for tone dialing. In the UK it is available at no extra cost, and is available in parallel with pulse dialing on all but the oldest exchanges (which are being replaced). Have any reasons been given why tone-only is being enforced? Dave djh@sectel.com Tel +44 1285 655 766 Fax +44 1285 655 595 ------------------------------ From: ofsevit@world.std.com (David Ofsevit) Subject: Re: Mike Milken and George Gilder Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 10:07:14 EDT I had to laugh at George Gilder's attempt to revise history and make Mike Milken into some sort of hero he never was. Gilder's analysis is basically flawed because he only describes successful companies which he claims benefited from Milken's transactions, conveniently overlooking the companies brought to ground by similar transactions, not to mention the social costs of those disasters. He also seems to feel that, left to themselves, the various banks and S&Ls that went belly-up would have come out of it and made oodles of money. If he's so smart, where was he when it was happening? I don't recall *anybody* suggesting at the time that the banks and S&Ls should just be left alone and everything would be all right. Just my opinion on the piece: self-serving, revisionist humbug. Thanks for the laughs. :-) David Ofsevit [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Well, now this is the second time in as many days I have receieved negative feedback on a piece by George Gilder which appeared here. I am hoping he will reply to these two critics. PAT] ------------------------------ From: LLOYD.S.WILKERSON@gte.sprint.com Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 10:57:11 -0400 Subject: Re: Plan to Abolish FCC I watched part of a press conference held by (I think) the Progress and Freedom Foundation people on C-SPAN over the weekend. Apparently, once you buy, lease, or obtain the rights to a frequency or band, and there is interference to you by someone else (as in CATV leaking over into the aircraft band), you would have the right to prosecute the offending party for tresspass. Seems to me it would give the owners of today's stations in the East U.S. to sue the owners of stations in the Midwest or the West U.S. in the event of a band opening, or maybe in the case of tropo ducting of some signals. Did anyone else watch any of this and get the same impression? [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: People who talk like that display a woeful ignorance of how radio waves and radios in general operate. I recall when the late Ayn Rand used to talk about how there should be no governmental control of the airwaves and that everyone should be allowed to do their own thing and 'let the most powerful transmitter be the one that is heard ...'. She was ignorant about radios also. I don't care if you are pushing 50,000 watts; if I get up next to some receiver with a hundred milliwatt transmitter I am going to jam your signal. I can right now, in the privacy of my home with the limited stuff I have here prevent the neighbors on either side of me from watching Channel 2 on television ... or make it pretty miserable for them. So if your signal comes into my home and I block it out am I 'trespassing' on your property? All you people who favor private ownership of the airwaves via auction or selling them to one another, etc, what I want you to do is get *your property* out of my house. I am going to start charging you a fee for allowing your property to remain in my house. While I certainly have complaints of my own with the FCC because of some aspects of their operation -- their field investigators who used to drive up and down the streets triangulating on CB'ers they did not like years ago provided the example of 'jackboot thugs' all other federal agencies including BATF could only hope to someday emulate -- I still feel some technical regulation of the airwaves is essential. I don't think they have much business regulating content, but I think they have done quite well with technical standards over the years. PAT] ------------------------------ From: davep@u.washington.edu (D. Ptasnik) Subject: Re: CD Changer For Music on Hold Date: 08 Jun 1995 13:57:24 GMT Organization: University of Washington jerry@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Jerry Aguirre) writes: > I am thinking about getting a CD changer and feeding it into the music > on hold port of our PBX. Any negative issues to doing this? I would > appreciate any experience people have with particular models or > features that make this more practical. One of our departments bought an el-cheapo at Radio Shack over a year ago, still spinning. Be sure to get non-copyrighted discs. Obscure European orchestras performing classics are often not copyrighted. Just make sure that the disc and liner notes do not have the C with the circle around it, or the words ASCAP or BMI on it. > Any speculation on how long a CD changer would last in continuous > loop 24 hour a day use? Couple of years at least, I would hope. All of the above is nothing more than the personal opinion of - Dave Ptasnik davep@u.washington.edu ------------------------------ From: smithb@nutra.monsanto.com (Brian Smith) Subject: Re: CD Changer For Music on Hold Date: Wed, 08 Jun 1995 12:41:48 -0500 Organization: NSC Technologies Jerry, I don't know how a CD or regular tape player will do if it's left on all the time. You may run into more repair problems than it's worth. You might do better to get a digital music-on-hold player. You play the music you want from a cassette tape once and the player loads it into its memory. When you hear the music-on-hold it's being play from the memory of the player, not a tape that's running all the time. If you want different music, you can load a different tape. I think you can find these players for around $500 or so. I think Hello Direct sells one as well as other catalogs. Also, you might want to remember that legally you are supposed to pay a music licensing fee to play CDs or tapes as your music-on-hold. You might want to contact BMI or ASCAP and get more information. When you buy a digital player, it usually comes with some generic licensed music. If you want more information, you can E-Mail me directly. I know more about music-on-hold than I would like to. Brian Smith ------------------------------ From: B. Z. Lederman Subject: Re: Last Laugh! Mike and Terry's Lawnmower Service Date: 08 Jun 95 17:49:24 EST Reply-To: Lederman@intransit_tsc.vntsc.dot.gov Organization: INTRANSIT (VNTSC) > remember when ITT referred to 'International Telephone and Telegraph', You forgot to mention the reason ITT was named "International Telephone and Telegraph" in the first place, instead of staying with the names of the parent companies (there were several): the director was deliberately trying to get people to confuse it with "American Telephone and Telegraph" so he would get more business. Apparently it worked. B. Z. Lederman. (Former employee of ITT World Communications) ------------------------------ From: ddjgk@cris.com Date: Thu, 08 Jun 95 17:09:26 EDT Subject: Re: Last Laugh! Mike and Terry's Lawnmower Service Re: mining in 3M There was an article earlier this year in Am.Heritage/Science&Technology on the story of MMM. The founder had claimed mining rights in northern Minnesota where he thought he had a deposit of raw abrasive material, and he wanted to make and sell sandpaper. The minerals were not hard/ abrasive enough to be competitive, and carborundum was just around the corner, so they foundered until coming up with a decent waterproof adhesive to make wet/dry sandpaper. The rest is history. Dave Johnson ddj@gradient.com ------------------------------ From: dbryant@netcom.com (David K. Bryant) Subject: Re: Last Laugh! Mike and Terry's Lawnmower Service Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Thu, 08 Jun 1995 13:13:03 GMT Gordon S. Hlavenka writes: > I know you're talking telecom here, but what about the Minnesota > Mining and Manufacturing Company? > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: MMM, or 3-M as they are sometimes called, > makes a variety of tape products, including 'Scotch Tape' and other > tapes used for sealing boxes, etc. They also make computer diskettes and > tapes used to back-up computer data. I can see where all that would be > considered manufacturing, but where does the mining part come into it? PAT] Pat: You forget that another one of 3M's products is sandpaper. They mine silicates. In fact their entire product philosophy is bonding things to a substrate ... sand to paper ... glue to paper or tape ... oxide particles to mylar ... etc. ------------------------------ From: pturner@netcom.com (Patton M Turner) Subject: Re: Last Laugh! Mike and Terry's Lawnmower Service Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Thu, 08 Jun 1995 01:57:25 GMT 3M is a big player in the (telco) outside plant business. At one time they almost owned the market for wire splices (Scotchloks), at least for those not still clinging to the B wire connectors. They still make a lot of copper wire splices, splice enclosures, ecapsulants, mechanical fiber optic splices, and electrical tape. Patton Turner KB4GRZ pturner@netcom.com FAA Telecommunications [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I guess it does not matter after so many years and with their 'Scotch' trademark as well-known as it is, but I was told that the slection of the term 'scotch' for their products long- ago (when it was basically Scotch-Tape and a few similar items) was sort of degrogatory. An old ethnic myth says that Scottish people are tight- fisted and stingy with their money. The theory was that 3-M's tape was inexpensive and very little of it would last a long time. i.e. a roll of their tape would last you almost forever, and just cost a few cents to purchase (in those days). Therefore you could be 'scottish' about spending your money and 'scottish' in the amount of tape needed to put together or repair whatever it was you were working on. If they wished to be politically correct at all times -- like myself -- they would probably rename their products. Imagine how awful it would sound for example if they called it 'Jewish Tape' or something like that. PAT] ------------------------------ From: daveb@dgtl.com (David Breneman) Subject: Re: Last Laugh! Mike and Terry's Lawnmower Service Date: 08 Jun 95 19:08:38 GMT Organization: Digital Systems International, Redmond WA [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: (With huge gratuitous deletions ...) > In the case of Sprint, the company was originally the telecom department > of the old Southern Pacific Railroad. Until about 1970, the railroad (and > most other railroads for that matter) operated their own telecommunication > links between their terminals by stringing wires on poles along the right > of way where the tracks were laid. Another interesting case of a long-distance company's unique way of acquiring right-of-way for their lines is Metromedia (the same folks who brought you "Truth or Consequences" with Bob Barker in the 60s). They purchased bankrupt pipline companies at bargain-basement prices and ran their cables along the pipelines. > Likewise, 'Telex' and TWX were originally the 'telegraph exchange' and > yperiter echange services. I do not know why the one got an 'ex' > on the end and the other only an 'x'. Telex was Western Union's version > of a public switched network for telegraph machines and TWX was the Bell > System's version of the same thing. AT&T and WUTCO got in a big fight > about 1960 with WUTCO claiming Bell had no right to be in the telegraph > business. AT&T lost and had to divest themselves of the TWX business, but > the name stayed with the equipment. The theme song to "Wall Street Week" is "TWX in 12 bars." That's a real Teletype ASR-33 in the band. > And by the way, that was a very unkind comment about Bill Gates. I have > no authoritative word on this, but I beleive the name came from the > combination of micro-computers and software. My first introduction to the > company was about 1977-78 when I had my Ohio Scientific C-1-P computer. > It used Microsoft Basic Yes, two things that were "up and coming" in the 70s -- microprocessors and off-the-shelf software. Maybe it's just me, but MicroSoft sounded like a stupid name in the 70s and it still sounds stupid today. It could be a brand of toilet paper, ferchrissake. David Breneman daveb@dsinet.dgtl.com Unix Systems Administrator Voice: +1 206 881-7544 Corporate Network Operations Fax: +1 206 556-8033 Digital Systems International, Inc. Redmond, Washington, U. S. o' A. ------------------------------ From: Larry.Kollar@Sciatl.COM Date: Thu, 08 Jun 1995 11:07 EST Subject: Re: Last Laugh! Mike and Terry's Lawnmower Service This is getting off track, but it's been a refreshingly silly thread. > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: MMM, or 3-M as they are sometimes called, > makes a variety of tape products, including 'Scotch Tape' and other > tapes used for sealing boxes, etc. They also make computer diskettes and > tapes used to back-up computer data. I can see where all that would be > considered manufacturing, but where does the mining part come into it? PAT] Well, all that iron oxide has to come from *somewhere*. Most likely Minnesota iron mines. It's kind of frightening to think about -- all your data, backed-up or no, is stored on what is essentially rust ... Larry Kollar lekollar@nyx10.cs.du.edu ------------------------------ From: dasher@netcom.com (Anton Sherwood) Subject: Re: Last Laugh! Mike and Terry's Lawnmower Service Organization: Loose Cannon Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 01:13:34 GMT > She went on to say that other companies' names had far more colorful > origins. [ humorous yarns snipped ] I heard that NBI was once named something really obscure like Neoteric Balonium Institute (not really that, but I've long forgotten the real name), and a venture capitalist said "You can't call it that! Call it Nothing But Initials." disclaimer: the above is likely to refer to anecdotal evidence. Anton Sherwood *\\* +1 415 267 0685 *\\* DASher@netcom.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Jun 95 15:10:41 EDT From: Carl Moore Subject: Re: Last Laugh! Mike and Terry's Lawnmower Service Probably a small item, but appearance of "ITT" just now reminded me of Cousin Itt, a minor character on the Addams Family TV show. [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Ah yes, the dimwitted Cousin Itt. I think I'll have him edit this Digest for awhile when I take my vacation this summer. That should be an improvement, eh? Well, now I am off to see the movie 'Johnny Mnenomic' at the Old Orchard Theatre 5:30 pm showing. Anyone else seen it? If it is any good, I may review it here in a day or so. ITT oops, I mean PAT]. ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #277 ****************************** Received: from delta.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa18975; 9 Jun 95 6:14 EDT Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA17828 for telecomlist-outbound; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 23:11:13 -0500 Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA17817; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 23:11:10 -0500 Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 23:11:10 -0500 From: TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson) Message-Id: <199506090411.XAA17817@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #278 TELECOM Digest Thu, 8 Jun 95 23:11:00 CDT Volume 15 : Issue 278 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Re: 911 From Cellphones in CA (Robert Levandowski) Re: A Tour of Your Phone (Mike Parker) Re: Inbound Out-of-Home-Area Cellular Calls (Mark Smith) Re: Meridian SL1 - Information Pointers? (Vidya Gopaul) Re: Plan to Abolish FCC (Bennett Z. Kobb) Re: "Fax Mailbox" Type Services - How They Work (Ronald Reiner) Re: "Fax Mailbox" Type Services - How They Work (Jack Bzoza) History of TSPS/TOPS/OSPS (Mark Cuccia) HumanNets and WorldNet - Are Earliest Posts Archived Anywhere? (R. Hauben) Trillium Telephone Systems - TalkTo 616 (Renny Koshy) Re: Mike Milken - Two Trillion Dollar Opportunity by Gilder (Larry Riedel) Johnny Mnemonic - Waste of Time, Money (TELECOM Digest Editor) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of public service systems and networks including Compuserve and America On Line. 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Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rlvd_cif@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Robert Levandowski) Subject: Re: 911 From Cellphones in CA Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York Date: Fri, 9 Jun 95 00:03:55 GMT In Marty Brenneis writes: > I am seeking personal experiences both good and bad that involve using > cellular 911 for situations that were not the jurisdiction of the > Highway Patrol. (mail to droid@nbn.com) I am mainly interested in > California, but if you have an interesting tale from another state or > country please chime in. I recently got the chance to visit the 911 Center for Monroe County, New York. (Monroe County includes Rochester, NY, home of Kodak, Bausch and Lomb, and Paychex, among others.) The county's new 911 center is certainly something to behold! Among the details I remember, it is constructed with bulletproof glass and Kevlar-composite wall panels, as well as being earthquake- and flood-proof and having its own power supplies and redundant communications links. The impression that I got was that if there were ever an earthquake that flooded town, cut off power, and caused people to start emptying their illegal assault rifles into the comm center, 911 would be able to ignore it and go on taking calls. :) They also have specially-designed acoustic walls. They deaden the sound from the calltaker's workstations, so it's not noisy; but the supervisors in the center of the room can still be heard clearly at each station, and a standing operator can easily be heard by the supervisor. The acoustic properties of the room were amazing! Anyhow, in Monroe County -all- 911 calls are routed to this center, unless an outlying community fields its own landline 911 calls at its police station. This includes all cellular 911 calls made to towers within Monroe County. The one center has call takers and dispatchers for police, fire, and ambulance, for local, county, and state forces. They also handle the occasional odd cellular traffic, like boaters on Lake Ontario, and the soon to be documented on "Rescue 911" case of a small plane pilot whose radio went out while on approach, who called 911 on his cellphone from the plane to talk to the tower ... The call-takers and dispatchers use a special call system running on Digital PCs with touchscreens. Besides the usual enhanced-911 capabilities, they can easily hand off calls to local and state agencies with a quick touch of one of their three video screens. They can call up detailed life-saving information on another screen to assist a caller. The tour guide did mention the bane of their existance: the cellular phone. The problem is that cellphones don't pass Caller-ID or ANI here in Monroe County. Therefore, the staff can't even determine your name and phone number, never mind your location. The things that the 911 tour guide mentioned regarding cell phones were: * BEFORE you place the call to 911, - find out what road you're on. - find out what the nearest cross street, exit, or mile marker is. - PULL OFF THE ROAD! and don't make matters worse by juggling the handset. (NY does not yet have a law requiring the use of a handsfree microphone while the vehicle is in motion, but one is expected to pass and take effect real soon now.) - if you are calling because of an accident or an injury to another party, investigate the situation and assess the status of everyone else involved before calling. If anyone is in immediate danger, help them before calling. - if the emergency involves a car anywhere near traffic, set out flares or triangles to warn oncoming traffic. (You do have flares in your car, right? :) * When you call 911, - try to remember the calltaker's name in case you are cut off. - remember that they have no idea where you are or who you are. - give your name and your cellular telephone number. - state the nature of the emergency: - what happened? - is anyone injured? - is a crime in progress? - is a gun involved? etc. - DO NOT hang up until you are told to do so. If you're like me, you're probably thinking that most of this seems pretty common-sense. However, it was made excruciatingly clear during the tour that most cellular 911 callers screw up most of this. The guide had a lot of contempt for people who call in and say "I just passed a broken down car." 911: Where are you? Caller: On the highway. 911: Which highway? Caller: I don't know, I'm not from around here, the big highway. 911: Do you know the mile marker or the nearest exit? Caller: Geez, I wasn't paying attention, can't you send someone? 911: Well, what kind of car was it? Caller: It was a white car, I don't know what kind, it went by fast. 911: Was anyone hurt? Caller: I couldn't tell, I didn't stop... 911: Do you know the license plate number of the car? Caller: I told you, I didn't see! [etc.] That's something I made up, but it's the kind of thing the tour guide described as being a fairly typical cellular 911 call, and the reason why 911 hates cellular. :) I'd say, if you're trying to educate cellular users, the absolute best thing you can do is write a short, simple, and to the point guide about what to do in a cellular emergency. It'd be good if it were small enough to fold into a door pocket, the pocket of a bag phone, or even a wallet. Rob Levandowski Computer Interest Floor associate / University of Rochester macwhiz@cif.rochester.edu [Opinions expressed are mine, not UR's.] ------------------------------ From: mrparker@nando.net (Mike Parker) Subject: Re: A Tour of Your Phone Date: Thu, 08 Jun 1995 19:18:10 -0400 Organization: News & Observer Public Access In article , shrike@shell.portal.com (Arthur P Bebak) wrote: > This just appeared in the latest issue of Netsurfer Digest and may be > of some interest to the readers of these newsgroups: > AT&T'S TERRIFIC TOUR OF YOUR TELEPHONE > With their "Talking Power" pages, AT&T provides an entertaining and > educational tour through the telephone system, part of their > multimedia performance support systems. You can learn more about your > phone line, batteries, the central office, the U.S. telephone network, > the anatomy of a telephone call, and the training course itself. It's > all part of the impressive site that AT&T maintains. > URL:http://www.att.com/talkingpower/> And don't forget NORTEL's equally entertaining and educational 'Telecom 101'. It can be found on the impressive site that NORTEL maintains. Totally objective, Mike Parker Product Manager DMS 100 Remotes NTI, RTP, NC mike.parker@nt.com / mrparker@nando.net ------------------------------ From: Mark Smith Subject: Re: Inbound Out-of-Home-Area Cellular Calls Date: Thu, 08 Jun 95 19:16:49 EDT Organization: New Jersey Computer Connection, Lawrenceville, NJ In article , writes: > Could someone please explain the mechanism that allows cell phones to > *receive* calls while they are out of their home area? I recently had > the need to receive a call while out of my area (Central Indiana via > Cellular One) and according to the friendly representative all I > needed to do was dial some access code ONCE to unlock the block from > my phone. Basically, most cellular systems will allow "Follow-Me Roaming" when out of area. You dial *18 when you reach a new system (not a new cell -- a new system) and that tells the cellular network "I'm here!". Then, they can route calls to you. If you're driving, this generally translates into dialing *18 every 50 miles or so. If your carrier covers a large area, or has agreements, this may not even be necessary. Bell Atlantic has a deal where Automatic Call Delivery (no extra code required) works for Philly customers all the way from NYC to Washington DC. You also have to activate Follow-Me Roaming once per day, as it automatically deactivates at midnight. If you want to deactivate it on your own, dial *19. I've used it, and it works when I remember to activate it. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 17:47:00 +0000 From: gopaul@nt.com Subject: Re: Meridian SL1 - Information Pointers? Organization: Bell Northern Research gfeld@usa.nai.net (Gary Feld) wrote: > The digital connectivity of proprietary phones deals with how the PABX > communicates with its telephones (lights lights, paints displays, etc) > as well as carries the phone conversation. An analog port simply > carries the conversation. If your concerns go deeper, conact me via > E-mail and we may be able to help you out. Just to add to this response. Fax-On-Demand will work on analog line as long as the correct Meridian Mail software release is installed in the M/Mail and PBX systems. Vidya Gopaul gopaul@nt.com ------------------------------ From: bkobb@newsignals.com (Bennett Z. Kobb) Subject: Re: Plan to Abolish FCC Organization: New Signals Press Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 10:17:53 GMT In article wjs@nr.infi.net writes: > Sorry if I sould overly sarcastic. I get annoyed with the FCC at times. > But this is throwing out the baby with the bathwater. Let's treat the > patient and get him better, not sumarily execute him. My thoughts exactly. Few if any of the concerns addressed in this thread are addressed in the "comprehensive plan" I summarized. Enforcement issues, treatment of noncommercial licensees, unlicensed devices, and many other issues are ignored, trivialized or dismissed. Most of the plan deals with general and non-wireless issues and historical review (or revision). I tried to pick out only the most concrete proposals affecting radio communications and to paraphrase them briefly. Anyone is welcome to ask pff@aol.com for a copy of the plan, titled "The Telecom Revolution -- An American Opportunity." I would urge anyone reading it to take it with a grain of salt. Readers unfamiliar with the FCC proceedings described might be tempted to believe the accounts as presented. The downsized Executive Branch agency that would remain after the FCC is eliminated would retain some duties, many of these for a limited time. International coordination of allocations and orbit assignments and representing the U.S. in international fora, for example, would be retained for three years and then subject to review. Such functions, however, as technical standards for equipment and services, authority to assign bands of frequencies to various stations, and many other fundamental functions would be repealed, period. Bennett Kobb [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: And I think that would be absolutely terrible ... a real disaster. PAT] ------------------------------ From: rreiner@clark.net (Ronald Reiner) Subject: Re: "Fax Mailbox" Type Services - How They Work Date: 8 Jun 1995 13:53:23 GMT Organization: Clark Internet Services, Inc., Ellicott City, MD USA Donald Burr (picard@silcom.com) wrote: > number that people can send FAXes to. Then you call in at a later > time and pick up any FAXes waiting for you. It kinda works like an > answering machine or voice mail, but it's for FAX transmissions. > Since I don't know exactly how they work, if anyone does, and can > explain it to me, I would appreciate it very much. Also, what extra > hardware do we need to have in order to use this service? Will it > work with FAX modems hooked to computers, or do you NEED a fax > MACHINE? I work for a company which manufacturers the equipment for setting up fax mailboxes. In general, our equipment is used by service providers to offer general store and forward fax service. Our equipment allows people to sign up for something we call Direct Access to Mailbox. Under this arrangement, you are given a special phone number which your correspondents use to send faxes to you. These faxes are received and stored on a fax mailbox on one of our machines. At anytime you want, you call up your subscriber service number and request that your faxes be sent to you. You hang up the phone and pretty soon all of the stored faxes are faxed to you. It doesn't matter whether you have a PC or fax machine. There are may different ways of using the service depending upon the facilities offered by your phone company. Our equipment allows you to forward any stored faxes to any destination you desire. This is especially handy if you travel a lot and want to be able to retrieve your faxes no matter where you are. For example, you can give your correspondents your normal fax number. If the the line is available when they call, their faxes will end up at your site. However, you can forward your phone to the service number if your line on busy or if you feel like turning off your PC. Another option is to give your correspondents the service number but put the mailbox in autoforward mode. Any faxes coming into the mailbox, will automatically be forwarded to your normal fax number. If it is unavailable, they will be left in the mailbox for later manual retrieval. I am sure that AT&T, the Baby Bells etc. offer these kinds of services. Unfortunately they do not use our equipment. Our equipment is used throughout the world by other countries such as Korea, England, Denmark, etc. Somethimes, you may find service providers with fax mailbox offerings who cater to high volume corporate accounts. I hope that this helps. I'm sorry I can't be more specific about seeking service providers. If you lived in Denmark, I could give you a number and user's manual. Ron Reiner ------------------------------ From: Jack Bzoza Subject: Re: "Fax Mailbox" Type Services - How They Work Date: Thu, 08 Jun 95 10:36:00 PDT picard@silcom.com (Donald Burr) wrote: > My roommate and I would like to be able to receive FAXes. > I've heard of "fax mailbox" type services that will give you a phone > number that people can send FAXes to. Then you call in at a later > time and pick up any FAXes waiting for you. It kinda works like an > answering machine or voice mail, but it's for FAX transmissions. Call Delrina at 1-800-268-6082. They have exactly such a service which gives you fax mailboxes on a 1-800 telephone number. About $9.95/mo gives you a fixed number of pages of fax and so many cents per page after that. Paging notification and voicemail are also options. ------------------------------ From: Mark Cuccia Subject: History of TSPS/TOPS/OSPS Date: Thu, 08 Jun 95 09:24:00 GMT When 1984 (so appropo' considering Orwell's year) came around, TSPS operators who had previously been employees of the local Bell Op.Co's were then employees of the American Telephone & Telegraph Co. (AT&T Long Lines became AT&T Communications, too). I'm not quite sure about the larger Indeps (GTE, etc) who had their OWN toll switches and operator centers. Some Indeps had TSPS (a Western Electric standard) but the Indeps had GTE-Automatic Electric manufacture TSPS. Canada was PRIMARLIY TOPS (Traffic Operator Positions Systems), which Northern Electric (Telecom) developed in the 1970's. This was MORE DIGITAL than TSPS and usually homed on a DMS switch. Many Indie's in the US also used TOPS. The terminals were just like a computer terminal and NOT designed like a TSPS board. There is a video monitor and a keyboard (alphanumeric). However, the OPERATOR FUNCTIONS (KP, KP card, KP back, POS-REL, T&C, INTL, etc.etc.etc.) were ALSO labelled on the alphanumeric keys (along with the regular letters & numbers). Sometime around 1986, AT&T here in Louisiana began adding video monitors and keyboards to their TSPS positions. This were a SEPARATE operation, to search a database for NamePlace (NPA-NXX), Rate & Route, Rates, Operator Codes, Numberings, etc. They were NOT directly tied in with the traditional TSPS. Around Christmas 1986, local TV showed how AT&T's operators were busy handling Holiday calling volume, and you saw the traditional TSPS board along with the video monitor suspended on a pole from the ceiling and the keyboard sitting on top of the flat shelf directly in front of the operator. One of the MFJ stipulations was that the local BOC's were going to 'take-back' operator services for local/inTRA-LATA calls. The CBS Evening News one nite in 1985 showed Seattle (Pac.NW Bell/USWest) with the differences between 0 (InTRA-Lata Bell) and 00 (InTER-Lata via AT&T or whatever carrier). AT&T was still using TSPS while the local Bells were unanimously going to NT's TOPS equipment. Louisiana had Bell taking back the '0' (for InTRA-Lata) in the Spring of 1986. The SCBell Operator could always transfer you over to AT&T, but AT&T cannot transfer you back to Bell. (Today, SCBell can also try to transfer you over to MCI and Sprint and probably others, at the customer's request). From 1986 to 1989, AT&T could ALSO complete calls within the LATA at the Bell Tarriffed rates, and Bell got all of the revenue. Around 1989/90, AT&T began to introduce OSPS (Operator Service Positions Systems), a Western Electric manufacture, DIGITAL, associated with #5ESS. AT&T operators would NOT assist on InTRA-LATA calls (unless tarriffed by the local body to do so). You could NOT place a 'sequence call' on your calling card within the LATA if the original call was InTER-Lata via AT&T. OSPS 'boards' look very much like TOPS- a monitor and keyboard. In September, 1991, the Louisiana PSC 'permitted' InTRA-LATA competition. Why I put this in quotes is that MCI, Sprint, etc. ALWAYS completed InTRA-LATA calls when placed with fg.A or B access using 950-XXXX or 1-800- numbers. AT&T had ALWAYS respected Bell's revenue/territory and since AT&T did not get any revenue on InTRA-LATA calls but their operators were doing work, they discontinued InTRA-LATA when they implemented OSPS. When InTRA-LATA competion was then allowed, AT&T started completing calls again, and here in Louisiana, their per-minute toll rates ARE NOTICEABLY LESS than Bell (except on weekends/nites, where Bell is a penny cheaper per minute than AT&T). SHORTER DISTANCE Intralata (toll) points are OPTIONALLY available as an extended monthly package plan - similar to measured/metered rate and even some of these points are 'capped' as if it were monthly flat rate. AT&T handled (such as calling card) calls which are in the TRADITIONAL LOCAL CALLING AREA are timed rate - Bell's card and opr.asstd.local rates are FLAT here in Louisiana - approx.88cents (63cent opr.assistance surcharge even tho' it can be fully automated, plus the quarter you WOULD have dropped in the payphone). If you have several calls, mixed inTER-Lata, InTRA-LATA TOLL, and LOCAL to all be billed on a calling card, you should try to determine the rates BEFOREHAND, and probably NOT want to do a simple string of 'Sequence Calls'. I'm NOT getting into private payphone situations in the above - we know that they do NOT conform to traditional Bell System standards. A FEW MORE POINTS - when you were connected to a TSPS operator, both the caller AND the operator heard a 'zip' tone beep for a split second - you do NOT hear that when the OSPS or TOPS operator answers - AND - AT&T has been doing MAJOR consolidation of their Operator centers (the Bells have done some too) - When I dial 00 from New Orleans, I started to get TSPS or OSPS operators in Jackson MS or Memphis TN in 1989/90. TODAY, I get AT&T operators in Atlanta, Florida, the Carolinas, and Virginia (yes, I ask them where they are located), a different time zone than mine, and if the OSPS opr.doesn't check our times, she HAS quoted me the wrong rates such as when I have 7am and she has 8am - of course, I know what the rates are approximatly and I usually say 'check-again ... I'm in the CENTRAL time zone'. ALSO, when one dials (10(10)288)+00 (or AT&T's 800 access) today, you first get the jingle and logo, followed by a recorded 'If you'd like to place a call, please enter the Area Code and number now - If you need Operator assistance, please say OPERATOR now' to which you can also touch(DTMF) 0 or 0# or 00, to which you hear 'Please hold for an operator'. AS THE OPERATOR COMES ON THE LINE, most of the time, a standard recording (usually female) states 'AT&T-How may I help you?'. They do have a standard MALE recording, but sometimes the female voice recording states the above, with a MALE operator on the line. Sometimes the recording does NOT come in and the operator answers LIVE. I HATE THAT RECORDING and the waits and prompts - When I dial 00, I want to talk to a LIVE OPERATOR. If I am making an automated tupe of billed call, I will dial (10288)+0+ (and other code strings) A LONG WAY AWAY FROM "NUMBER PLEASE" MARK J. CUCCIA PHONE/WRITE/WIRE: WORK: mcuccia@law.tulane.edu UNiversity 5-5954,TEL(+1 504 865 5954) UNiversity 5-5917,FAX(+1 504 865 5917) HOME: CHestnut 1-2497 4710 Wright Road | fwds.on busy/no-answr.to cellphone/voicemail New Orleans 28 | (+1 504 241 2497) Louisiana (70128) USA ------------------------------ From: ronda@panix.com (Ronda Hauben) Subject: HumanNets and WorldNet - Are Earliest Posts Archived Anywhere? Date: 8 Jun 1995 11:20:00 -0400 Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC Does anyone know if the earliest issues (before May, 1981) of the HumanNets Mailing list have been archived and are available anywhere? I have come across posts or digests from the 1981 - 1983 period, but wondered if the earlier posts have been saved. It seemed to be an important and popular Mailing List on the ARPANET and also was of great interest to Usenet pioneers when they were able to have a gateway to the ARPANET Mailing Lists like HumanNets and Scifi lovers. Also, I am interested in knowing more about how it started and how it came to be called HumanNets. The early posts I have read indicate that folks on it were interested in exploring what Human Nets connected by computers would make possible. I wondered if anyone had any of the early posts that described the vision of a WorldNet that folks discussed in the early 1980's. I am working on a draft article about early Usenet and it would be helpful to have more background on both the vision of WorldNet and how Usenet fit into that. Ronda ronda@panix.com au329@cleveland.freenet.edu Ronda Hauben The Amateur Computerist au329@cleveland.freenet.edu vol 6 no 2/3 "The Netizens and the Internet" free via email "Net Cultural Assumptions" "What Is a Netizen" "Licklider's Vision" "Ethics and the Internet" "The Internet: Maintaining Diversity" etc. [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: This Digest began as an offshoot of the Human Nets mailing list. It was more general in nature, and when a group of several people on the mailing list wanted to have a more technical discussion of telephones, it was decided to create this Digest for that purpose. TELECOM Digest began in August, 1981. All the back issues of this Digest, with a few exceptions, have been archived for interested parties, but I don't know about anything from the late 1970's or 1980. If anyone knows the answer to this, it might be some of the charter subscribers to this Digest. Yes, there are a half-dozen or so of the people who were on the list in 1981 who are still on it today. Perhaps they know something about it. Just as this Digest came from Human Nets, other e-zines have had their origin here in telecom. The Computer Privacy Digest was started by Dennis Rears as a result of a large volume of messages on Caller-ID that I did not want to handle here. He has since passed the Digest on to the professor in Milwaukee. Then Computer Underground Digest, or CuD was 'born' here under much the same circumstances: a net scandal several years ago involving a couple of (at the time) well-known net people which resulted in prison sentences also resulted in a massive overflow of mail and a great deal of controversy in this Digest and elsewhere on the net. CuD started as a result, to continue that discussion. Bill Pfieffer began his Airwaves Radio Journal with my assistance, although not as a direct offspring from telecom. PAT] ------------------------------ From: renny@softsys.com (Renny Koshy) Subject: Trillium Telephone Systems - TalkTo 616 Organization: Integrated Environments, Inc Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 09:47:17 GMT I recently purchased a TRILLIUM 616 KSU. It's a 6x16 system with seven sets. However, I didn't get any docs, and the guy claimed that he would send it to me. I have yet to receive anything ... I don't even know his phone number. ANyway, if you have any information on the company or the unit, PLEASE HELP. Renny ------------------------------ From: larryr@saturn.sdsu.edu (Larry Riedel) Subject: Re: Mike Milken - Two Trillion Dollar Opportunity by Gilder Date: 9 Jun 1995 00:34:39 GMT Organization: San Diego State University, College of Sciences TELECOM Digest Editor responded to J. Brad Hicks (jbhicks@inlink.com): > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I am wondering if George Gilder would be > so kind to provide a response to Mr. Hicks and share it with the rest of > us here reading the Digest. PAT] I certainly hope not. The last thing I want to see in this newsgroup is the resurrection of ancient flame wars over anecdotal evidence of the evil 80's. Whether or not Mike Milken is evil has nothing to do with telecom. Isn't this a moderated group? Is this alt.politics.economics? Larry [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Nor is it my intention to provide a forum here for alt.politics.economics ... however try as I may, it becomes very difficult at times to separate the technology of telecom from the politics of telecom. So much of the reason for *why* things are done the way they are in the industry today has to to do with the history and politics of the industry in the past. There is no clean place to break it off. And if Milken is 'evil', then the very last place we want to see him is getting involved in telecom, particularly in the telecom industry of the century approaching. Let him ransack and loot a few other industries instead. I am NOT saying he is 'evil', just that it all seems rather 'iffy' and chancey to me; problematic to say the least, and that is where I also had to take some issue with Gilder this time around. I just don't know if he could be trusted or not. I'm still hoping GG will favor us with a response; maybe GAJ can prevail on him to do so. PAT] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 21:29:02 -0500 From: TELECOM Digest Editor Subject: Johnny Mnemonic - Waste of Time, Money As I mentioned here Thursday afternoon, I went to see the movie Johnny Mnemonic at the Old Orchard Theatre. I had to rush over there in time for the 5:30 pm show, stopping at the cash station to get money for a ticket, my popcorn, etc. The popcorn and soft drink cost almost as much as the ticket. ($7 for ticket; $6.25 for huge box of popcorn and large Coke, and that was with a one dollar off coupon for refreshments they gave me when I went in.) Well, such a waste of my time and money. The movie lasted about ninety minutes and by 7:30 pm I was back home again. I *thought* it was going to have something more to do with the 'net' in a realistic way, but this movie was nothing but violence and sheer fantasy, taking place in the year 2050, or somewhere around that time. Throughout the whole movie there are people fighting, killing each other, chopping off each other's arms and heads, etc. They start fires, set off bombs, etc. For quite a few of the characters in the movie their vocabulary is limited to mostly four letter words. This fellow Johnny is engaged as a courier between people on one side and people on the other. He travels between Bejing and a place known as 'Free Newark'. He has chips implanted in his head which hold 'data' to be conveyed from one side to the other. He goes to the one side where a massive amount of 'data' is uploaded into his brain and then goes to the other side to have it downloaded. He literally plugs some wire in the back of his head at one end where they upload to him, then the same thing is supposed to happen in reverse on the other end. Well, it turns out the people on both sides are pretty nasty. After the people on one side upload to him he barely escapes with his life to get to the other side. Naturally he has to kill or maim at least a dozen people by that point. When he gets back, the people on the other side renege on their deal to pay him and restore his brain to its normal operation. To make matters worse, no one can seem to find the password needed to commence the download, so a decision is reached that it will be necessary to chop off his head, then use brute force to extract his brain from his severed head and pick the data out byte by byte. Well Johnny does not like that idea at all, and a few dozen more people wind up either dead or set on fire. Johnny does all this singlehandedly of course except for when his obligatory girl friend assists him with dispatching a couple of the bad guys. You always have to have a girl friend in these movies, someone with enough intelligence to think of some last minute rescue tactics. She gets Johnny hustled off to this place where the good guys are going to let him 'hook into the net' so the download can take place. By now Johnny is getting some awful headaches from the information overload he has been carrying around for a couple days and we are told he will die unless the data can be downloaded to the 'net' immediatly. Trouble is, they still cannot remember the password needed so a hacker in the form of a fish in a large aquarium tank (yes, that's what I said; it is unclear to me how exactly the hacker got that way) is called upon to find the password using brute force if needed. Even the hacker fails at his task. Now everyone feels certain the only thing left to do is chop off Johnny's head so the data can be saved. In fact, complain the good guys, because of the information overload in his head, there has already been some 'leakage' and most likely the data is corrupted. They convince Johnny that since he 'is going to die anyway' if they don't manage to download the data very soon, he might as well go along with their plan to try a lobotomy first in the hopes the data can be saved without killing Johnny completely in the process. Well wouldn't you know it, at the very last minute, someone comes up with a scrap of paper where the password had been written down and all turns out well. Johnny gets plugged into the 'net' through this connection on the back of his head, and the good guys announce that the download will commence. He doesn't have to have a hole drilled in his head -- or worse yet, his head cut off -- and of course there is the obligatory scene with his girl friend at the end where they are kissing, smiling and happy. I think over the course of this ninety minute talking/motion picture, there were about sixty different people who were killed or seriously wounded either by being shot, stabbed, chopped up, set on fire or by being in a place that was bombed or set on fire, etc. We got to see how a 'sound cannon' works, and how if a person cannot get away in time it causes blood to squirt out of their eyes, nose and ears, a lot like the desease Ebola. Before this spectacle started, we were treated to a preview of coming attractions, and another major motion picture of this same genre called 'Internet - 2051', which will soon be Coming to a Theatre Near You. It appeared to be just as trashy and crude as Johnny Mnemonic, although it might be worse since for the preview of coming attractions they have to cut out all the sex and profanity. So now, not only do we have an endless supply of newspaper editors and reporters who make up *lies* about the internet, it looks like Hollywood has discovered us also. The popcorn wasn't that good either. PAT ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #278 ****************************** Received: from delta.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa02734; 9 Jun 95 18:28 EDT Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA24496 for telecomlist-outbound; Fri, 9 Jun 1995 09:08:23 -0500 Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA24488; Fri, 9 Jun 1995 09:08:20 -0500 Date: Fri, 9 Jun 1995 09:08:20 -0500 From: TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson) Message-Id: <199506091408.JAA24488@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #279 TELECOM Digest Fri, 9 Jun 95 09:08:00 CDT Volume 15 : Issue 279 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Now Four Local Players in Chicago (TELECOM Digest Editor) Re: Crossed Wires and ANI (Roger Atkinson) Phone Mail Jail (Lee Winson) Need Information on BT Datelmux 7200 (Brian McGinty) Information Wanted on Smart Cards (David Payne) TCOM Assistant Professor (One Year, Ph.D.) (Bruce Klopfenstein) E3 interface needed (Gian Enrico Paglia) Merging Phone Company Test Boards (jregan@icis.on.ca) Baseball All-Star Ballot Available on the Internet (Stephen Goodman) Question For Analog Mobile Guru (Glenn Shirley) V5.2 Question (Masoud Loghmani) Multiplexer software control (Albert Helberg) Does Phone Company Record What Cell Call Placed From? (Joel Upchurch) Request for Async Simplex Mux (Peter A. Smith) TSPS (was "How to Make a Long Distance Call in 1942") (Paul Cook) Re: Blind - But Working With ACD - And Some Other Stuff (Allen Greenwalt) Re: Johnny Mnemonic - Waste of Time, Money (Joel Kolstad) More Laughs and Not the Lawnmower Man (A. 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Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TELECOM Digest Editor Subject: Now Four Local Players in Chicago Date: Fri, 09 Jun 1995 08:00:00 CDT LCI International, the nation's sixth largest long distance company has filed an application with the Illinois Commerce Commission to offer local phone service in Chicago. Based in McLean, Virginia, LCI now joins AT&T and MCI Metro (a division of MCI Telecommunications) in competing with Ameritech for customers in the Chicago area. What makes this particularly interesting is that LCI is specifically aiming for the residential market. In the past, competitors to the 'phone company' seemed to always be interested in the business market, and in particular the largest of the business customers. LCI has promised to make a vigorous attack on Ameritech's residential customer base with flat long distance rates and six second billing. Their application is under review now by the Illinois Commerce Commission and some decision is expected later this summer. Does any other community have four companies interested in local service? Does any other community have a long distance telco with a specific interest in agressively signing up the residential customers? They'll be doing it, they say, by purchasing space and resources in bulk through Ameritech for resale. It should be an interesting summer. Patrick Townson ------------------------------ From: rogera@cts.com (Roger Atkinson) Subject: Re: Crossed Wires and ANI Organization: R. F. Atkinson & Co. Date: Fri, 9 Jun 1995 08:15:16 GMT In article Chris J. Cartwright - ELF writes: > I was using MY-ANI-IS to label the demarc (cursing my predecessor!) > when I slipped up. I was using a tone butt set to dial out on each of > the lines in a 66 block. My count was off and I tied across pins 9 > and 10 instead of 10 and 11. This gave me TIP of one line and RING of > another, oblivious I hit the redial. The call went out and other than > the audio being reduced nothing seemed odd. Since the AC and prefix > are the same the 301-NXX sounded like the echo supression was bad. It > wasn't until I got to the extension number that I got a clue something > was wrong. What I got was a readback of both numbers simultaneosly! > Yes they were off by a few milliseconds (accounting for the echo) but > if I listened carfully I could hear both numbers being reported. It would appear that by drawing loop current from one side of each line circuit, you placed two simultaneous calls, and therefore got two responses. The type of equipment providing the local service certainly has an affect on whether or not such a situation would result in two calls (or even one), but how the calls are routed through the network after the local switch should be immaterial. Hope this helps. Roger ------------------------------ From: turner7@pacsibm.org (Lee Winson) Subject: Phone Mail Jail Date: 9 Jun 1995 02:36:30 GMT Organization: PACS IBM SIG BBS I got a business tonight and got stuck in "phone mail jail". I wanted to leave a message, but the option didn't work and I kept looping. There was no way to reach a human. Also frustrating are automated PBX systems. Suppose I know neither a person nor extension number? I need an operator to connect me to the accounting department. In the old days, a company's switchboard operator was trained in the company, and knew whether to connect to general accounting, accounts-payable, accounts receiving, payroll, etc., as set up by that company. This was known as good business, and strongly encouraged in PBX training by the Bell System. I wish that phone mail system manufacturers would help their customers design decent, standardized, easy-to-use, and fail-safe systems. The stuff out now stinks. First, a lot of customers still have rotary dials. Given voice recognition technology, it should be a no-brainer to pick up dial pulses (if they can decipher voice, they can decipher precisely timed clicks). Second, there should be ALWAYS an exit to a human operator, and without waiting six hours for one. Pressing 0 should instantly switch to a human. If the company is closed, there should be a recording option. Third, systems should try to use standardized key functions. * and # should do the same thing. If you have recording or transfer options, the keys should be uniform across systems. It would save so much time. Lastly, systems should be carefully designed so that no customer ends up in an infinite loop, or phone mail jail. BTW, Ted Koppel did a story on this on ABC's Nightline. Not a good item for the Telecommunications product industry. ------------------------------ From: mcgintyb@tdc.dircon.co.uk (Brian McGinty) Subject: Need Information on BT Datelmux 7200 Date: 9 Jun 1995 06:10:30 GMT Organization: The Direct Connection Anyone have any info or sources for info on the BT Datelmux 7200 ... please don't say 'BT!' Cheers, Brian ------------------------------ Subject: Information Wanted About Smart Cards From: DPAYNE@vichosp.london.on.ca (DAVID PAYNE) Date: 08 Jun 95 22:50:55 EDT Pat, Does anyone know of some resources that are available on smart card technology? I work for a hospital in London, Ontario that is looking into different multi functional smart card applications. Are there any hospitals in North America or Europe that are using this technology? Does anyone know of some people I could talk to or articles I could read? What about books? The hospital would like to explore implementing a multifunctional smart card for the hospital staff. The application that is being explored is to provide one card that serves as a parking card, staff ID card, a long distance debit/calling card, and a debit card for cafeteria food. Is this possible and affordable today? Ideally, we would like the card to access payroll or the hospital credit union's bank accounts. We understand that debit technology will often increase sales for a vendor by as much as 20%. Has anyone ever heard this and if so does anyone know of any research that has been published on the benefits of this technology? I will share my results with this group! Thanks again! David Payne dpayne@vichosp.london.on.ca [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: One place I have seen these recently is at Northwestern University. They have something called the 'Wild Card' which can be used in all the vending machines, copy machines and such around the campus. You purchase it in the book store there, and when it runs out you can load it up again at machines where you insert the card, then put in money -- up to twenty dollars I think -- and retrieve your card with the new value stored on it. You might ask Northwestern about it. PAT] ------------------------------ From: klopfens@bgsuvax.bgsu.edu (Bruce Klopfenstein) Subject: TCOM Assistant Professor (One Year, Ph.D.) Date: 9 Jun 1995 03:08:52 GMT Organization: Bowling Green State University The Department of Telecommunications, Bowling Green State University, seeks candidates for a one year faculty replacement position at the assistant professor level. Candidates must have a completed Ph.D. and preferably professional telecommunications experience (broadcasting, cable, telephony) and teaching and research interests related to new media and society. Areas of particular interest include multimedia, communication technology in organizations, and social impacts of technology. The successful candidate can expect to work with graduate students (M.A. and Ph.D.) and should have a record or strong promise of scholarly research. *Experience writing equipment and other grant proposals highly desirable.* The position is open until filled but duties commence on August 22. Nominations/applications with current references should be sent to: Dr. Bruce C. Klopfenstein, Chair | klopfenstein@opie.bgsu.edu Department of Telecommunications | klopfenstein@bgsuopie.bitnet Bowling Green State University | (419) 372-2138; 372-2224 Bowling Green, OH 43403-0235 | fax (419) 372-0202 http://www.bgsu.edu/departments/tcom/INDEX.html Bowling Green State University is an affirmative action and equal opportunity employer and welcomes applications from minorities, women, veterans and persons with disabilities. ------------------------------ From: Gian Enrico Paglia Subject: E3 Interface Needed Date: 9 Jun 1995 11:41:29 GMT Organization: Digital Equipment SpA, Italy Hello, I'm looking for an E3 interface board for PCI or ISA or EISA. DO you know of any such product on the market? Thanks a lot, Gianni Paglia Digital Equipment SpA, Milano ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 16:08:11 GMT From: jregan@icis.on.ca Subject: Merging Phone Company Test Boards I am interested in hearing some stories or experiences from those who worked in the residential repair (particularily test board) for phone companies that merged various test centres together to create a 'super test centre'. Our test centre started on the old #14 test boards and about ten years ago migrated up to CALRS. The test centre originally looked after just one city, then took over a few others and eventually the entire areacode. Now, it is proposed that it be merged with four other test centres to create a large centre that covers several reasonably large areacodes. I was told New England Tel did this as did some others, and we are curious to hear your comments on how well it went ... did customer service benefit or suffer? How well were you able to handle all the different (and large number of) switches and all the new various types of customers and environments they were in (IE Big cities, to small four party service). It could mean several people have to move to a new city to continue their current job. Any thoughts you have to offer on this topic are appreciated. JREGAN@ICIS.ON.CA ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jun 95 14:03 EST From: Stephen Goodman <0003945654@mcimail.com> Subject: Baseball All-Star Ballot Available on the Internet CONTACT: Paul Sims Carole Coleman MCI Major League Baseball 1-800-644-NEWS 212-339-7865 MCI_News_Bureau@mci.com INTERNET FANS TO VOTE FOR BASEBALL ALL-STARS IN CYBER-SPACE MCI AND MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL PROVIDE HISTORY MAKING SERVICE -- Web Site Features On-Line Balloting Plus Daily Scores and Baseball News Atlanta (June 6, 1995) -- Baseball's best will thank their lucky stars when named 1995 Major League Baseball All-Stars, since many of the votes that put them in the prestigious game will come from Cyber-space. For the first time in baseball history, baseball fans around the world can vote for their favorite players via the internet, with the simple click of a mouse. Major League Baseball @BAT, a new baseball info-site/venue, is providing the first-of-its-kind high-tech All-Star ballot that may be reached through MCI's Internet supersite (www.internetMCI.com) and at Major League Baseball's new direct line on the internet at (www.majorleaguebaseball.com/mlb). "All-Star internet voting will introduce fans of one of America's favorite pastimes -- baseball, to America's fastest growing pastime -- exploring the internet," says Scott Kurnit, president of MCI Information Services Company. "MCI is thrilled to help Major League Baseball take All-Star balloting and the sport itself to a whole new level of play." "Major League Baseball @BAT is happy to welcome baseball fans all over the world to the internet for the chance to vote for their favorite players, using their computer," says Michael Bernstein, vice president of business development and new ventures, Major League Baseball. "Internet All-Star voting is a true innovation in a game so full of history and tradition." Once at the @BAT internet site, fans will discover daily, on-line baseball news and information available throughout the season, including box scores and player stats, team standings and league leaders, team schedules and rosters, todays games and scheduled pitchers, American League and National League Player of the Week Announcements complete with photos, color team logos and weekly features on players, coaches and teams. ------------------------------ From: shirleyg@stanilite.com.au (Glenn Shirley) Subject: Question For Analog Mobile Guru Date: 8 Jun 1995 18:17:37 +1000 Organization: Stanilite Electronics Pty. Ltd. Sydney, Australia Does some knowledgeable person out there know if AMPS (EIA-553) mobiles will respond to the IS-54 (Dual Mode AMPS) message waiting order? Is there anyone involved in mobile firmware from any manufacturers reading this newsgroup? Glenn Glenn.Shirley@stanilite.com.au ------------------------------ From: Masoud Loghmani Subject: V5.2 Question Date: 8 Jun 1995 13:59:21 GMT Organization: Digital Technics Inc. Hi, I am looking for information about V5.2 trunk concentration standard. Do you know what this standard is, or where I can find some information about it? I appreciate your help. Masoud Loghmani dti@access.digex.net http://www.access.digex.net/~dti/index.html ------------------------------ From: Albert Helberg <0950655@nptmc.eskom.co.za> Subject: Multiplexer Software Control Date: 8 Jun 1995 14:24:59 GMT Organization: Eskom Hi there! I am currently trying to formulate some form of guideline for software version control and maintenance to be used as a specification. I am running into all kinds of snags such as the difference between "bug fixes" and "added features" in new versions and who should pay for what. Could someone please give me some tips on which software maintenance and version control procedures work and which traps should I avoid? As shown in the subject line, this has all to do with MUXes and related telecomms equipment, but if this is not the correct news group, please advise me. I would appreciate all the help I can get! Thanks! Albert Helberg 0950655@nptmc.eskom.co.za ------------------------------ From: joel@civ.net (Joel Upchurch) Subject: Does Phone Company Record What Cell Call Placed From? Date: Thu, 08 Jun 95 15:28:14 GMT Organization: Civilization I have a pretty basic question. When you place a call from a cellular phone does the cellular company record which cell(s) actually handled the call? I know they could if they wanted to, but do they? In something like the Simpson case it might be interesting if it turned out that his ex-wife's house was in a different cell from his house. Joel Upchurch @ Upchurch Computer Consulting joel@civ.net 718 Galsworthy Ave. Orlando, FL 32809-6429 phone (407) 859-0982 [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: That Simpson trial is the biggest travesty of justice I have ever seen. Who wants to bet with me that it will last at least until the end of this year, and probably well into 1996? Who agrees with me that there will probably be a mistrial as a result of all the jury commotions and it will have to be started over from the beginning and last another year after that? To answer your question, yes I think sometimes they do keep a record of the cells involved in a call when they have reason to need or want that information. PAT] ------------------------------ From: PA.Smith@mtsat.telesat.ca (Smith, Peter A.) Organization: Telesat Canada Date: Tue, 06 Jun 1995 13:47:38 EST Subject: Request for Async Simplex Mux Hi. I'm in search of a product that can provide for four async channels aggregated into a single *async* output. The aggregate must support 8-1-N word characteristics and operate at either 19.2 or 38.4 kbps. Also, the mux must operate in a *simplex* mode ie. there is no return path. I also require the demux hardware to return the four async channels. The application involves broadcasting over satellite to multiple receive stations. Unfortunately, the vendor of the satellite hardware is not at all flexible with their async interface. Please don't shoot the messenger! But thanks for any and all suggestions. Peter Smith PA.Smith@Telesat.ca ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jun 95 11:06 EST From: Proctor & Associates <0003991080@mcimail.com> Subject: TSPS (was "How to Make a Long Distance Call in 1942") Scot M. Desort gsmicro@ios.com writes: > BTW, the correct acronym is TSPS, which stands for Telephone Services > Position System (I think -- nobody actually ever told us -- found out > many years later). Thanks for the interesting story about TSPS. Actually, TSPS stands for Traffic Service Position System. According to the glossary in ENGINEERING AND OPERATIONS IN THE BELL SYSTEM (my copy is the 1982 Seventh Printing, copyright 1977 by Bell Labs) TSPS means: "That type of Traffic Service System, having stored program control, that provides for the processing and recording of special toll calls, coin station toll calls, and other types of calls requiring operator assistance. It includes traffic service positions arranged in groups called traffic offices where operators are automatically connected in on calls to perform functions necessary to process and record calls correctly." Paul Cook 206-881-7000 Proctor & Associates MCI Mail 399-1080 15050 NE 36th St. fax: 206-885-3282 Redmond, WA 98052-5378 3991080@mcimail.com ------------------------------ From: agreenwalt@aol.com (AGreenwalt) Subject: Re: Blind - But Working With ACD - And Some Other Stuff Date: 8 Jun 1995 17:15:59 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Sorry, I can't help you with your need for an audible notification when you have inadvertantly remained in the *WORK* state, but I am fascinated to know how you read your e-mail. I hope this question does not offend you, but in an effort to better understand the world around me, I'd sure like to know. Best regards, Allen Greenwalt [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I think most visually disabled people who participate in Usenet and/or receive email use a talking device which is attached to their computer. A fellow in Kansas who is visually disabled and the vice-president of a bank there has been a subscriber to this Digest for a long time. A sound card in his computer reads it to him along with his other email. It is not a big deal, conversion of printed text to speech has been around for years. It does not always do very well at translating things like net addresses to speech with 'at' symbols and 'exclamation' or 'bang' symbols, and these systems try to pronounce abbreviations as words rather than spell them as what they are, but it can generally be understood. PAT] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 22:39:10 -0700 From: Joel Kolstad Subject: Re: Johnny Mnemonic - Waste of Time, Money Organization: CS Outreach Services, Oregon State University, Corvallis, OR, USA Hi Pat, I say this waste of money a couple weeks back. I could have told you to save your money. :-) You're right that it has absolutely nothing to do with the Internet. The Internet is still nebulous and unknown enough that movie makers can do whatever they want to with it. Heck, witness Seaquest's "Innernet," which is a direct rip-off of what sci-fi authors would like the Internet to be. Some remarks about Johnny M ... -- It was obvious to me from the start that Johnny's data had to connected with the plague. Why else would it exist? -- I was disappointed that the cause of the sickness was never really given other than "all this technology." Yeah, right, what in the world does that mean? We should all go back and live in caves? -- The plan is to disseminate Johnny's information as widely as possible, right? So why not just duplicate the cute little disc that's uploaded to Johnny's brain a thousand times and send it to all the newspapers? Oh, because we wouldn't have a story then. Oops. -- How does Johnny ever get his childhood memories back (wasn't than an ironic twist...)? The company has them -- not the dolphin! Heck, I'd demand a copy of my memories on disc before I even became a courier. :-) In article you wrote: > ($7 for ticket; $6.25 for huge box of popcorn and large > Coke, and that was with a one dollar off coupon for refreshments they > gave me when I went in.) $7 for a 5:30 show!? I hate to think what they charge for the non-matinee shows! > I think over the course of this ninety minute talking/motion picture, > there were about sixty different people who were killed or seriously > wounded either by being shot, stabbed, chopped up, set on fire or > by being in a place that was bombed or set on fire, etc. Yes, it was excessive, but is it any worse than, e.g., True Lies or Rambo? Joel Kolstad [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: No, it was no worse that those other two farces you named, but I did not like those and did not go to see them in the first place. I was not tricked into thinking that they had something to do with the internet. I got there thirty minutes too late for the price change from matinee to evening. They have a very low price -- about two dollars -- from when they first open at 9:00 AM until early afternoon, then the matinee price, then finally the evening prices. There were quite a few things left unexplained in the movie. How the hacker-fish came to have all those childhood memories he reloaded into Johnny's brain was a mystery to me also. PAT] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Jun 95 08:42:57 -0400 From: padgett@tccslr.dnet.mmc.com (A. Padgett Peterson Subject: More Laughs and Not the Lawnmower Man Larry Kollar rites: > It's kind of frightening to think about -- all your data, backed-up or no, is > stored on what is essentially rust ... Why? In the old car hobby a common saying is "steel does not last long but rust is forever". In general oxides are very stable. Can still play my reel- reel Scotch tapes made in the 60's, the oxide is fine but the acetate is becoming quite brittle -- couldn't afford the mylar often then. BTW the "Post-It" notes from 3M are also said to have been an accident. In looking for an adhesive, a researcher came across a not-very-good adhesive and a whole new industry was born. Also, as a Douglas, I do not find the term "Scotch Tape" to be derrogatory even if they do have red in the tartan. "Scot's Tape" might have been but "Scotch" refers to whisky and is never out of order. Warmly, Padgett ps ObTelecom - have a pink ITT box about 2x3 ft x 18" deep that seems to support four pushbutton telephones. Big power supply in the bottom. Card rack in top with plugins (looks like each card handles two telephones). Anyone know what it is and where I can get specs/operating instructions? ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #279 ****************************** Received: from delta.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa25953; 12 Jun 95 23:08 EDT Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA02291 for telecom-recent@lcs.mit.edu; Mon, 12 Jun 1995 22:08:08 -0500 Date: Mon, 12 Jun 1995 22:08:08 -0500 From: TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson) Message-Id: <199506130308.WAA02291@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom-recent@lcs.mit.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #280 TELECOM Digest Mon, 12 Jun 95 09:20:00 CDT Volume 15 : Issue 280 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson AT&T Reaches Labor Agreement (Steve Geimann) Re: Mike Milken and George Gilder (George Gilder) Re: Mike Milken and George Gilder (David K. 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Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Geimann@aol.com Date: Mon, 12 Jun 1995 03:31:33 -0400 Subject: AT&T Reaches Labor Agreement AT&T REACHES TENTATIVE SETTLEMENT WITH TWO UNIONS By STEVE GEIMANN Senior Editor, Communications Daily WASHINGTON -- AT&T and its two labor unions, the CWA and IBEW, reached tentative agreement Friday on a three-year contract with 10.5 percent in pay raises, $3,400 in cash-stock bonuses, incentives to join a managed health care plan and improved relations in future organizing. The agreement covers 101,000 AT&T workers at the national level, while local units have one week to wrap up bargaining on local issues within the next week. Ratification will begin when local talks end and will take several weeks. AT&T employees have been working without a contract since May 27. Both sides said agreement is in best interests of company and union members. CWA represents 81,000; IBEW covers 20,000. Employees will get $1,000 bonus upon ratification, $800 in AT&T stock annually through 1998 and wage increases of 3.6 percent immediately, 3.5 percent next year and 3.4 percent in 1987. When compounded, the effect is 10.8 percent. "We made substantial improvement in the areas of wages, health care, pension benefits, employment security and training and education for our members," said CWA President Morton Bahr. Retiree health care was "protected" against out of pocket payments former employees got three options for coverage. IBEW President John Barry said "hard bargaining" led to a "fair agreement" that provides a "good economic base" for members and sets foundation for "true cooperative effort between AT&T and the unions to stop job losses and ensure more opportunities for its existing work force." Company officials held a late night news briefing in Washington to outline the tentative agreement, agreeing talks were difficult b but produced satisfactory agreement for the company. "Overall, these talks have been the most objective and focused labor negotiations in our recent history," said William Ketchum, vice president-labor relations. On key issue of health care, agreement includes new managed care network starting in January that provides coverage without deductibles or coinsurance costs, but requires flat fees for doctor visits, prescription drugs and some hospital stays. Coverage would extend to prenatal and well-baby care, immunizations, routine physical exams and hospice care, along with costs for preventative care, such as mammograms, company said. Retirees could elect coverage in managed networks, beginning in 1997, by having some costs paid from a fund created for each retiree. They would have two options: Plan without deductibles and coinsurance charges and low flat fees, with monthly cost of $5 to $20. Or, second option with same coverage, no monthly payment, but higher co-payments for doctor visits and hospital stays. Retirees since March 1990 also have option to remain outside managed care network, company said. AT&T said retirees would receive a company-paid care account of about $250 annually that would be used to cover monthly payments for health care and other expenses, such as hearing exams and prescription drug co-payments. On financial issues, the 401(k) saving plan would be expanded to include additional investment options, more frequent statements and cash balance updates, and speedier loan processing. Employees could but AT&T stock at 15 percent discount by shifting up to 10 percent of their salaries, with company paying any commissions. Employees would get $800 in the first quarters of 1996, '97 and '98 which will be converted into stock at a price pegged to average during week of Aug. 28, 1995, or the current price, whichever is lower. Stock payments also were part of the just-expired contract. Other key elements: --Company would provide $7.5 million to a Family Care Development Fund to improve the quality of senior and day care options, added to $15 million contributed in the last three years. Adoption expense reimbursement would jump to $3,000 from $2,500. -- Employees could take one-third of their five excused work day in two-hour segments, to handle family emergencies or other business without taking a full day. --College scholarship program would be expanded to 70 awards of $6,500 for each of a student's four-year college career. Under the program begun in 1992, 40 scholarships of $10,000 per year were provided. -- A new "living benefits insurance option" would allow terminally ill employees and retirees under age 64 to secure up to 50 percent of their death benefits when they have less than six months to live. --Pension will increase 12 percent and for first time minimum pension benefit was raised, to $400 a month, which will boost benefits for more than 5,00 longer term pensioners, union said. --Employee transfer program was improved to give employees facing plant shutdown or layoff better access to available jobs. -- Expands "Workplace of the Future" concept, which allows parties to sit down and discuss key issues outside of normal contract bargaining. "Both the unions and management believe that success in the marketplace is the only way to create real job security and help people have productive and challenging careers," Ketchum said. Ketchum said agreement also spells out management and union "code of conduct" during organizing efforts at three non-union AT&T businesses: AT&T Universal Card, AT&T Transtech and AT&T Paradyne. "There will be a more fact-based approach" by management when unionization efforts are underway, Ketchum said. Union said company won't hire union consultants in campaign. A union dues deduction progress will be established at Global Information Solutions union, formerly NCR, the first time such a check-off system has been extended to unorganized unit within the company, the unions said. Talks bogged down shortly after expiration of last agreement on May 27, with both sides spending more than three days trying to resolve the health care issue. Ketchum said company misjudged the complexity of the health issue before bargaining began. "We underestimated how much time it would take to work through the details and intricacies of reshaping our employee health care plan," Ketchum said. Each detail had to have agreement from 12 people sitting around bargaining table, he said. Talks opened April 3 and continued past expiration, with 10- to 14-hour bargaining sessions daily through last week. Bahr and Ketchum held talks earlier this week to move negotiators off certain issues and move toward settlement. Earlier Friday, both sides announced likely tentative agreement had been reached. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jun 95 00:10:00 EDT From: George Gilder <0004091174@mcimail.com> Subject: Re: Mike Milken and George Gilder Milken's critics all imply that they know the facts, when they are instead parroting all the slanderous fictions prevalent in the media during the late 1980s, in turn amplifying the innuendos and leaks from government prosecutors who assumed that anyone making as much money as Milken must be stealing. My article showed that the total gains from the merger and acquisition movement spearheaded by Milken and Drexel's junk bonds totalled $899 billion. This is net gains and includes all the failures (few of which were Milken's). Very few S&Ls bought any junk at all (less than one percent of S&L holdings were junk) but the few that did buy junk were among the most prosperous of all S&Ls. If the government did not pass laws forcing them to sell their holdings into a falling market, they would indeed have made hundreds of millions on their portfolios. There were some shysters and crooks involved in 1980s deals. But Milken wasn't one of them. He was forced to settle with the government when they threatened RICO suits against his younger brother just brought into the company and against his firm. The fact that Milken could not resist this full court press against him, despite his millions, merely illustrates the tremendous power of prosecutors pursuing political eminence. Milken's nemesis rode Boesky's lies into the New York City mayoralty, while later investigations by the courts showed that the total cost of Milken's violations was some $316K and that at least two of his confessed offenses involved no criminal activity at all. George Gilder [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Thank you for taking time to respond to the various comments published here from readers in recent days. As a reminder to new reaaders and others, I want to point out that several of George Gilder's essays are on file in the Telecom Archives, located at lcs.mit.edu. PAT] ------------------------------ From: dkl@crl.com (David K. Leikam) Subject: Re: Mike Milken and George Gilder Date: 11 Jun 1995 20:11:37 -0700 David Ofsevit wrote: > I had to laugh at George Gilder's attempt to revise history > and make Mike Milken into some sort of hero he never was. Gilder's > analysis is basically flawed because he only describes successful > companies which he claims benefited from Milken's transactions, > conveniently overlooking the companies brought to ground by similar > transactions, not to mention the social costs of those disasters. He > also seems to feel that, left to themselves, the various banks and > S&Ls that went belly-up would have come out of it and made oodles of > money. If he's so smart, where was he when it was happening? I don't > recall *anybody* suggesting at the time that the banks and S&Ls should > just be left alone and everything would be all right. I thought Gilder's article was fascinating, and very thought-provoking. Dismissing it in a couple of sentences, without research or evidence, is just not there. *I* remember quite a *lot* of screaming and hollering, at the time, that if the feds would just leave the S&L's alone, they would recover nicely. Many heated articles and letters in the financial press ( I mostly read "Forbes" at that time) said over and over, that the crisis was created by the regulators and the press, not by the institutions. This was drowned out in the witch-hunt for somebody to blame the economic crisis on. This doesn't take a whole lot of thought, you know. Today, Barnes & Noble/Bookstop, and MCI, look like the bluest of blue-chip investments. Then, they looked like the bleeding-edge of high flyers. Milken did that. And a S&L that had a lot invested in their junk-bonds would be a very rich S&L today. > Just my opinion on the piece: self-serving, revisionist humbug. > > Thanks for the laughs. :-) Mine: Profound, insightful, well-researched, and true. Thanks for the wake-up call. ------------------------------ From: mfraser@vanbc.wimsey.com (Mark Fraser) Subject: Re: Mike Milken and George Gilder Date: 12 Jun 1995 06:06:10 GMT Organization: Wimsey Information Services Well, MY take on it was that Gilder was illustrating that the leverage on the money raised for expansion permitted a whole lot of growth without the same tax [and some other] burdens that more "conventional" [quotes to emphasize my sarcastic slur on the "old" money that really doesn't like TCI, MCI etc...] utilities and other bluechips have to endure. I don't recall reading any endorsement of S&L fraud. Listen to the "Holders Of Obsolescent Capital" whine. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jun 1995 05:46:59 EST From: Rob Slade Subject: Book Review: "Running a Perfect Web Site" by Chandler BKRNPFWB.RVW 950502 "Running a Perfect Web Site", David Chandler, 1995, 0-7897-0210-X, U$39.99/C$53.99/UK#37.49 %A David Chandler chandler@ins.netins.net %A Bill Kirkner %A Jim Minatel %C 201 W. 103rd Street, Indianapolis, IN 46290 %D 1995 %G 0-7897-0210-X %I Que Corporation %O U$39.99/C$53.99/UK#37.49 800-858-7674 75141.2102@compuserve.com %P 457 %T "Running a Perfect Web Site", World Wide Web, variously abbreviated as Web, WWW or W3, is the name for the comprehensive and interlocking system of computers, networks, daemons, languages, browsers, servers, protocols, clients and documents. HTTP (HyperText Transfer Protocol) is the standard for requests from Web clients (or browsers) and data from Web servers (or sites or daemons). HTML (HyperText Markup Language) is the formatting code that specifies the display and functions of Web documents (or files). A Web browser is the program that runs (relatively) locally and which is your interface to the W3. And a Web site is that combination of computer hardware, network links, daemon software, and HTML files which you need in order to provide information to the World Wide Web. I was going to define client and server, too, but, believe me, W3 is *not* the example to use if you want to portray a clear understanding of client/server. Oh, you think so, eh? Then, which is the server, the program that fulfills the data request, or the one that fulfills the display request? Or, if you're using SlipKnot, which of httpd, lynx and SlipKnot is the client and which the server? At any rate, you had better keep the definitions in the first paragraph clear in your mind if you are going to use this book. It does provide an overview of the entire system, but it doesn't provide an awful lot of information about any one topic. After reading the book you may still not, for example, be completely comfortable with setting up an Internet router or firewall. You will know basic HTML, but not all the functions, by any means. Examples for forms and applications use Perl scripts, but Perl, itself, is not discussed. The CD included with the book contains a very comprehensive and useful set of tools, clients, utilities and references. Programs for Windows include such sought-after items as WIN32S; Trumpet Winsock; Lynx; Perl; SlipKnot; HTML editors and assistants; viewers; email, news, Gopher and IRC clients; and Netmanage's Chameleon. There are DOS and UNIX applications, as well as Internet FYI, RFC and STD reference files. copyright Robert M. Slade, 1995 BKRNPFWB.RVW 950502. Distribution permitted in TELECOM Digest and associated publications. Rob Slade's book reviews are a regular feature in the Digest. Vancouver ROBERTS@decus.ca | "A ship in port is safe, Institute for Robert_Slade@sfu.ca | but that is not what Research into Rob.Slade@f733.n153/| ships are for." User .z1.fidonet.org| Adm. Grace Murray Hopper Security Canada V7K 2G6 | after John Parks ------------------------------ From: bjote@cs.tu-berlin.de (Tor-Einar Jarnbjo) Subject: Phone Monopolies in Europe Date: 11 Jun 1995 15:06:20 GMT Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany After reading about phone monopolies in TELECOM Digest for some time, it would be interesting to hear what Americans think of the European way of "monophoning". As a Norwegian living in Germany, I beleive and suppose I have both used and "felt" the two extremes in the world of West-European monopolies. Here in Germany, we have the highest phone-rates in Europe (subjective opinion, which likely is fals :), local calls are not that expensive, but calling further than 50 kms (about 30 miles) places your call in the "Weit-Tarif" or "Far-tariffe" if one could call it that. Daytime, these calls cost 66 pfenning or about 47 cents/minute. Calls to neighbouring countries or countries within the European Union cost 82 cents/minute, calls to other countries in Europe cost 92 cents/minute, calls to USA and Canada cost $1.40/minute and calls to other countries world-wide cost $2.23/minute (all with an exchange rate 1US$=1.40DEM). Calls to cellular-phones are charged 82 cents/minute from a regular phone. Calls from cellulars to cellulars and cellulars to regular phone are charged very different tarrifes depending on operator, day-time and type of agreement. Now when you all are starting to feel sorry for me, having to cope with all this, I could continue telling that it took Deutsche Telekom AG (German ...) ten weeks to install a phone-line in my appartment, and that after a really nasty letter where I told them excatly what I meant (not suitable for quoting here). At the time of installation (early November 1994) I had already noted, that they had misspelled my name, and called DT to tell them that, and ask them to correct it. But, alas, such an important matter, had to be reported in writing to a completely new adress. So I did, and my name was for the first time correct on the bill for March this year (with monthly bills). Yesterday I got a new copy of the local phonebook, and as of March 1995, they had managed to misspell my name in the phonebook. What a wonderful life. I would welcome all foreign providers to offer competing services as the monopoly-rights will be withdraw from 1 January, 1998. Now to Norway. To get my point here right, I guess some facts of Norway and Germany have to be laid on the table. Germany has about 90 million inhabitants, and an area of 700 000 squarekm, which should be about 270 000 square miles, if it's normal to meassure land in such units. Norway has 4 million inhabitants and an area of 350 000 squarekms/140 000 square miles. With some dividing and multiplication, I find out that the population-density in Germany is about ten times higher than in Norway, and with some more reasonable thinking, I would assume, that running a telecom in Germany would be much cheaper for the customers than in Norway. But, I'm wrong. Norwegian Telecom provides one of the cheapest services in Europe, although it has perhaps the most "difficult" market to serve. Long distance calls cost in Norway (again more than 30 miles) 11 cents/minute, calls to neighbouring countries cost 35 cents/minute, calls to Western Europe cost 65 cents/minute and calls to Eastern Europe, USA, Canada and Australia cost 72 cents/ minute (with an exchange-rate of 1US$=6.50 NOK). Calls to cellulars cost 55 cents/minute. Now you have probably right if you claim these rates to be far higher to what you can find in the US, and proving that one monopoly is cheaper than an other, doesn't make theese clamps right. Well, might be correct, but services from Telenor (Norwegian Telecom) are excellent. If a physical line is already present in the appartment you would like to have a phone, the line is normally conncected and running within hours, all to wait for is a credit check. After buying my cellular in Norway, it was up and running before I got home after registering it, and most (covering 95% of the lines) exchanges are digital, and connected with each other with digital fiber-links, providing excellent speach-quality. In Germany (also the former West) analogue trunks with dead lines, switching problems and cross-talk are still the reality for many phoners, and with lines making even 9600 bps-calls difficult, one should wonder how the government can keep the monopoly on telecom- services. But again, back to Norway. Norway has a pop.density of 30 inhabitants/square-inch and most live along the coast in more or less larger cities. That means, that in the inland, and northern parts, you can drive a few hours between each small group of houses. Still these people can enjoy the same services provided from Telenor to people in the larger cities like Oslo, Trondheim and Bergen. What would happen if the Norwegian telecom-monopoly is withdrawn, and other providers would start competing for the money. Would they use a lot of money and time to cover the less populatet areas of Norway, or would they smash down in the denser areas? And what would happen if Telenor, which actually is obligated to do so, was left as the only company serving the areas of Norway where noone or only a few people live, and they loose a lot of income from the other parts, would Telenor then be able to provide such cheap services? I don't think so, and I guess a lot of people agree on this. The Norwegian parliament (Stortinget) is at the moment discussing if they shall withdraw the monoply-status of Telenor from 1. January 1998 like in EU, but have not yet agreeded. The center and socialistic parties are heavily against the withdrawal, and with their vast majority, Telenor is likely to keep it's status. Hope all of this could enlighten some people with the idea that all what's monopolistic is only greedy and providing lousy services, and that we one day all may live together in peace. Regards, Tor-Einar Jarnbjo, bjote@cs.tu-berlin.de Steinbach's Guideline for Systems Programming: Never test for an error condition you don't know how to handle ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #280 ****************************** Received: from delta.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa17933; 13 Jun 95 19:52 EDT Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA13932 for telecomlist-outbound; Tue, 13 Jun 1995 11:28:56 -0500 Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA13924; Tue, 13 Jun 1995 11:28:53 -0500 Date: Tue, 13 Jun 1995 11:28:53 -0500 From: TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson) Message-Id: <199506131628.LAA13924@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #281 TELECOM Digest Tue, 13 Jun 95 11:28:00 CDT Volume 15 : Issue 281 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Book Review: "Using Netscape" by Ernst (Rob Slade) Modem Function Challenge! 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Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 12 Jun 1995 13:57:18 EST From: Rob Slade Subject: Book Review: "Using Netscape" by Ernst BKUSNTSC.RVW 950501 "Using Netscape", Warren Ernst, 1995, 0-7897-0211-8, U$19.99/C$26.99/UK#18.49 %A Warren Ernst wernst@crl.com %C 201 W. 103rd Street, Indianapolis, IN 46290 %D 1995 %G 0-7897-0211-8 %I Que Corporation %O U$19.99/C$26.99/UK#18.49 800-858-7674 75141.2102@compuserve.com %P 357 %S Using ... %T "Using Netscape" Ernst keeps insisting that Netscape is a lot easier to install than Mosaic. I strongly suspect that this is because the *real* work involved is getting your SLIP (Serial Link Internet Protocol) account and socket layer running. I further suspect that Ernst is writing for an audience that already has Mosaic, and is planning to upgrade. In fact, installation doesn't get a mention until chapter fifteen. Then, after a few pages of ftp session in order to download Trumpet Winsock and Netscape, almost the next thing you read is, "After the Winsock software is installed and running correctly ..." OK, so we won't get much help with installation. Other than the obligatory list of Web sites and history of the Internet, there are two chapters on the functions of Netscape, itself, and six chapters on using ftp, Gopher, telnet, Usenet news, email, and search tools via Netscape. Most of those chapters deal with the Internet tools rather than the Netscape interface. copyright Robert M. Slade, 1995 BKUSNTSC.RVW 950501. Distribution permitted in TELECOM Digest and associated publications. Rob Slade's book reviews are a regular feature in the Digest. ROBERTS@decus.ca, RSlade@sfu.ca, Rob Slade at 1:153/733 RSlade@cyberstore.ca "So, concerning the above message, you think Rob Slade is responsible?" "Heavens, no! I think Rob Slade is terribly *ir*responsible!" Author "Robert Slade's Guide to Computer Viruses" 0-387-94311-0/3-540-94311-0 ------------------------------ From: dweiss@dataprobe.com (David Weiss) Subject: Modem Function Challenge! Guru Help Needed Date: 12 Jun 1995 14:36:42 GMT Organization: Dataprobe Inc. I am a manufacturer of wide area communciations products, mostly automatic and remote switching equipment. We make a product, the Call Director which basically works in a similar fashion to home office voice/fax switches; that is, that it allows a single telephone line to be shared by multiple devices. Most of our customers are large comerical and industrial users who need to access multiple modems. Reciently, several of our customers have asked for the ability to access multiple modems during the same telephone call. Now, our device will allow calls to be 'transfered' ; holding up the line and ringing another modem, but several problems remain: 1) Getting the far end modem to hang up. Our device works on DTMF and it is not reliable to send DTMF over the modem tones. We need a way to force the modem connected to our Call Director to hang up. We have looked into 'Long Break Disconnect', but this does not seem to be universally supported. 2) Local Modem Retraining. What we have not been able to do at all is to get a modem to retrain, so to be able to re-establish a link with a new modem. The ATO command only returns from Command State to On-Line, but that is not enough to sync up with the newly answering modem. Please give this matter some thought. If you have any suggestions, I would be greatful and thank you in advance for your assistance. If you would like more information on our Call Director product, please feel free to get in touch with me. David Weiss V. 201.967.9300 | Dataprobe, When every bit counts. Dataprobe Inc. F. 201-967-9090 | Source for Data Circuit Switching, dweiss@dataprobe.com CIS. 72007,2462 | Disaster Recovery, Alarm Management ------------------------------ From: seen@ripco.com Subject: Calling MCI Blacklisted Numbers? Organization: Ripco Internet BBS Chicago Date: Mon, 12 Jun 1995 15:40:12 GMT Since the first of May MCI blacklists Telefonenumbers, that means you can't call a blacklisted number by billing the call to your Calling Card. Isn't that a shame? Like for me, I only have an MCI Calling Card and don't want to change my LD company. Is there any legal way to force MCI to stop that blacklisting? ================ [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Let's take it from the top, because I am not entirely sure of a couple things in your message. I did not edit the 'word' "Telefonenumbers" in your message because I am not sure if you meant 'certain telephone numbers' or if there is some type of service known as 'Telefonenumbers' that MCI is no longer billing for, or what. All the telcos claim their cards are usable anytime, to call anywhere using any phone. In fact, all of them have various unofficial, unstated, unwritten rules they follow blacklisting certain kinds of calls. For example, AT&T blacklists entire countries when called from 'certain types' of inner-city neighborhoods at payphones. Nice middle class neighborhoods are permitted to use calling cards at payphones to call the UK, other European countries, Australia, New Zealand, etc. On the other hand, if you are living in the USA as a citizen of Pakistan, Israel, Iraq, most other middle east countries, India, etc, and live in an ethnic neighborhood of Chicago, try using a calling card to call *your* country. . Is it illegal? The telcos claim it is not illegal discrimination in an extension of credit. Calling cards are technically just 'billing instructions' rather than an extension of credit, and telco is simply saying they are not going to honor your billing instructions. A case could be made that they are engaging in false advertising by claiming their card can be used at any phone to call anywhere. Quite a few people however claim that when you permit people to call one country using their calling card but refuse them the right to call another country, you are in effect discriminating based on ethnic origin; a big no-no in the USA. AT&T says they do not discriminate against *selected callers* wishing to bill via calling card to call the middle east, Israel, India, etc ... they deny *everyone* the right to do that. The catch is, the people most likely to call those countries on a regular basis are people who *come from that country*. Since AT&T also blacklists the payphones of entire neighborhoods with 'certain kinds' of ethnic people being in residence, it amounts to defacto discrimination. AT&T refuses to explain their formula for who gets to call where from which payphones via calling card because they know they are acting illegally, in the interests of fraud prevention. MCI and Sprint do the same thing. You want to sue them, go ahead. They get sued all the time; it means nothing. In addition to denying calling card calls from point A to point B where they distrust the people in neighborhood A and the people in country B, some telcos deny calling cards completely -- regardless of destination -- at phones where they have experienced a high degree of fraud. Still other times, they deny calls to point B regardless of where the call originates for the same reason: no matter who calls B, they say, no matter where they call from, it appears B gets mostly fraud calls. I wish the FCC would address this issue, and force the telcos to improve their calling card fraud prevention techniques rather than simply inconvenience everyone who happens to be at the wrong payphone for a call to the wrong place. Yes, that sort of blanket approach makes it easier for telco, but I believe it is wrong, and quite possibly illegal in many instances. Memories: Anyone remember the stink back about 1980-81 when Sprint was first getting started? They were very high and mighty in those days about their calling cards and made no attempt to hide their discrimination based on who calls who from where. At least now-days the telcos are all sneaks about it; they lie, blame it on the computer, blame it on 'an operator who was not trained properly', or their old standby, 'the Telecom in won't accept our calling card' (big guffaw from your editor at this point) as if it mattered since we are talking *paid* calls to the other end. Anyway, back in 1980-81 Sprint was disallowing calling card calls pretty much as they pleased, with no real uniformity; just whatever they felt like doing. Sixteen year old kid and his buddy from Podunk are allowed to go on a summer vacation by themselves to the Rotten Apple. Loving and worried mother gives son a Sprint calling card to be used in case he gets into trouble or wants to call home. After all, that's what the Sprint customer service rep told her the cards were for ... silly mother, she took Sprint at their word ... gets a calling card and gives it to her son when he and his buddy set out for a little adventure on their own that summer. Well the first day, the kids land at the New York Port Authority Bus Terminal; they get an adventure alright. Their luggage gets stolen, they lose all their money and probably their innocence as well. But dutiful and obedient child remembers that nice card his mother gave him, and tries to call home to report this misfortune. Bingo! Sprint would not accept the card from the Port Authority payphones or anywhere else within about a mile. It turns out mother was the county prosecutor in Podunk -- or something similar with a lot of influence and power. *She* sued Sprint alleging false advertising and fraud on Sprint's part and they paid her off to get her to shut up. I guess you could probably sue on the 'from anywhere to anywhere' claims telcos make about their calling cards. Let me guess -- are the blacklisted numbers you are trying to call numbers with a lot of phraud traffic such as phreak BBS lines and such? Is Ripco being blacklisted also on inbound calls using calling cards? ... As I see it, you have two choices: the subscriber whose connection is being refused AND the subscriber whose calls are being withheld from receipt can sue MCI. MCI knows you are not going to do that; at least the odds are very much against it. Your other choice? Shape up and fly right! Behave yourself! ... not much to choose from is it? PAT] ------------------------------ From: J.Y.Khan@massey.ac.nz (Dr J.Y. Khan) Subject: Lecturer in Information Engineering at Massey Univ, New Zealand Date: Tue, 13 Jun 1995 11:54:32 Organization: Production Technology, Massey University, Palmerston North MASSEY UNIVERSITY DEPARTMENT OF PRODUCTION TECHNOLOGY LECTURER IN INFORMATION ENGINEERING AND COMMUNICATIONS Applications are sought for a new position created in support of teaching and research in the fields of information engineering and computer systems engineering. Candidates should be able to teach in the fields of communications engineering, electronic engineering, digital signal processing and computer network engineering; an interest in radio systems would be an advantage . The successful candidate would be expected to be active in research in one or more of the above fields. An interest in applications would be appropriate as the Department has a multidisciplinary staff with strong industrial links. The ideal candidate will have a PhD in an appropriate field, industrial or project experience and a demonstrated ability as a teacher. Enquiries of an academic nature contact Professor R M Hodgson, Department of Production Technology, fax 64-6-350-5604, e-mail R.M.Hodgson@massey.ac.nz. Reference number DEPT 73/94 must be quoted. Closing Date: 7 August 1995. As a condition of application the University reserves the right to make enquiries of any person regarding any candidate's suitability for appointment, not to make an appointment or to appoint by invitation. An information package including Conditions of Appointment are obtained by telephoning 06-356-9099, extension 7318. Applications, including a full curriculum vitae and the names, addresses and facsimile numbers of three referees should be sent to Miss Lynette Hensman, Human Resources Section, before the closing date specified. ------------------------------ From: todd.reashore@bbs.logicnet.com Subject: Line Charges in Alberta Date: 13 Jun 1995 06:09:04 -0600 Organization: Logical Solutions Good day ALL, We presently have a minor war brewing here in Alberta. AGT is getting into the Internet Provider game. Presently they supply five or six Inet providers with "Centrix" (?) lines at $ 30.00/month each. The game plan is to start charging these providers for "business" class lines at $ 70.00/month each. This will soften up AGT's competition. All this is with the CRTC's blessing, given their rules that these low priced Centrix lines are not allowed to have -data- on them in the first place. My question is; How does the CRTC justify this - No data on Centrix lines - rule, given the fact that these lines can handle my 14,400 modem with no difficulty? 2nd: Is this ruling just a method of sucking up to the Telco's? IMHO, the resulting higher prices being imposed, will only take Internet access farther out of reach of the average dude. Exactly the opposite of the governments intended plan. -=Yurs in humble reticence...from CALGARY/Alberta/Canada=- todd.reashore@t8000.com todd.reashore@bbs.logicnet.com reashore@freenet.calgary.ab.ca ---------------------Fido: 1:134/160---------------------------- ------------------------------ Subject: Conference on VLSI and Mobile Communications From: rishab@dxm.ernet.in (Rishab Aiyer Ghosh) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 95 12:49:43 IST Organization: Deus X Machina THE NINTH INTERNATIONAL CONFERENCE ON VLSI DESIGN January 3-6, 1996, Bangalore, India THEME : VLSI IN MOBILE COMMUNICATION Sponsored By: VLSI Society of India (VSI) Department of Electronics, Government of India In Co-operation With: IEEE Computer Society - DA-TC and VLSI-TC IEEE Circuits and Systems Society The Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers, Inc. ACM SIGDA STEERING COMMITTEE CHAIR CALL FOR PAPERS AND PARTICIPATION Vishwani D. Agrawal e-mail: va@research.att.com GENERAL CHAIR Biswadip Mitra Texas Instruments (India) Ltd., 71, Miller Road, Bangalore 560 052, INDIA Tel: +91-80-225-6910 Fax: +91-80-225-7849 e-mail: beam@msg.ti.com ORGANIZING COMMITTEE CHAIR Sattam Dasgupta Texas Instruments (India) Ltd., 71, Miller Road, Bangalore 560 052, INDIA Tel: +91-80-225-6910 Fax: +91-80-225-7849 e-mail: saga@msg.ti.com PROGRAM CHAIRS Michael L. Bushnell Dept. of Elect. & Comp. Engineering, Rutgers University, Frelinghuysen Road, P.O. Box 1390, Piscataway, N.J. 08854, USA Tel: +1-908-445-4854 Fax: +1-908-445-4775 e-mail: bushnell@caip.rutgers.edu Lalit M. Patnaik Indian Institute of Science, Microprocessor Applications Lab, Bangalore 560 012, INDIA Tel: +91-80-334-2451 Fax : +91-80-334-1683 e-mail: lalit@vigyan.iisc.ernet.in PUBLICITY CHAIRS N. Ranganathan University of South Florida, Dept. of Computer Sc. & Engineering, Tampa, FL 33620, USA Tel: +1-813-974-4760 Fax: +1-813-974-5456 e-mail: ranganat@vayu.csee.usf.edu Victor Jayakaran Wipro Infotech Ltd, 88, M.G. Road, Bangalore 560 001, INDIA Tel: +91-80-558-8422 Fax: +91-80-558-6970 e-mail: victorj@wipinfo.soft.net TUTORIAL CHAIRS Prithviraj Banerjee University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, 1308, W. Main St., Urbana, IL 61801, USA Tel: +1-217-333-6564 Fax: +1-217-333-1910 e-mail: banerjee@crhc.uiuc.edu Mahesh Mahendale Texas Instruments (India) Ltd., 71, Miller Road, Bangalore 560 052, INDIA Tel: +91-80-225-6910 Fax: +91-80-225-7849 e-mail: mhm@india.ti.com EXHIBITS CHAIR Arya Bhattacherjee Arcus Technology, 201, Embassy Chambers, 5, Vittal Malya Rd, Bangalore 560 001,INDIA Tel: +91-80-221-7307 Fax: +91-80-221-0336 e-mail: 72324,3244@compuserve.com DESIGN CONTEST CHAIR Amul Atri Semiconductor Complex Ltd., SAS Nagar, Punjab 160 059, INDIA Tel: +91-172-570-085 Fax: +91-172-570-397 e-mail: amul@sclchd.uunet.in PUBLICATION CHAIR Sreejit Chakravarty 226, Bell Hall, SUNY at Buffalo, Buffalo, NY 14260, USA Tel: +1-716-645-3180 Fax: +1-716-645-3464 e-mail : sreejit@cs.buffalo.edu FINANCE CHAIR Johann Andrew Bhagyanathan, TI, INDIA ACM LIAISON Sharad Seth, University of Nebraska, USA IEEE LIAISON Y. K. Malaiya, Colorado State Univ. USA EUROPE LIAISON Bernard Courtois, INPG/TIMA, FRANCE Mario Kovac, Univ. of Zagreb, CROATIA ASIA LIAISON Hideo Fujiwara, Meiji University, JAPAN VSI LIAISON A. Prabhakar, Bangalore, INDIA The conference is a forum for researchers and designers to present and discuss various aspects of VLSI design. The theme of the conference will be VLSI in Mobile Communication. The four day program will consist of regular paper sessions, special sessions, posters, tutorials, panel discussion and industrial exhibits. The conference proceedings will be published by the IEEE Computer Society. TOPICS OF INTEREST: Topics of interest include, but are not limited to: concurrent engineering, distributed CAD environments, DSP design and applications, hardware-software codesign, low power design, mixed analog-digital designs, packaging technology, performance driven design, placement and routing, programmable devices, submicron design issues, synthesis, simulation, standards, test, user experience with design automation tools. PAPERS: Please submit eight copies of previously unpublished papers to either of the Program Co-Chairs by June 1, 1995. The manuscript should clearly state the novel ideas, results and applications of the contribution. Please identify the contact author and include the complete mailing address, e-mail address, telephone and/or fax numbers of the authors. Papers should not exceed 15 double-spaced pages including figures and references. Authors will be notified of acceptance by August 15, 1995. Camera-ready papers should reach the Publication Chair by September 15, 1995. TUTORIALS: The conference runs a very successful tutorial program. Topics are open at this time and speakers on the theme area are encouraged to submit their proposals. Other areas include: DSP architectures and applications, FPGA, synthesis, test, mixed analog-digital CAD. Please submit proposals to either of the Tutorial Co-Chairs by May 15, 1995. SPECIAL SESSIONS/PANEL: In addition to regular papers and tutorials, submissions to the conference can be proposals for a special session (a set of related papers on a subject). Proposals for special sessions and panel sessions based on the conference theme are particularly encouraged. All proposals for special sessions and panels should be sent to either of the Program Co- Chairs by June 1, 1995. Special session papers go through the same peer review process as regular papers. EXHIBITS: The conference provides a unique opportunity to the vendors of CAD/CAE systems to display their products. Since the available space may be limited, those interested should immediately contact the Exhibits Chair. AWARDS FOR OUTSTANDING PAPERS AND VLSI DESIGN: A Best Paper Award (Prof. A.K. Choudhury Award) of Rs. 10,000, a Best Student Paper Award of Rs. 4,000 and two Honorable Mention Awards of Rs. 2,000 each will be given. Student authors should be identified on the manuscripts since all papers with at least one student author will be eligible for the Best Student Paper Award. A Design Contest open only to participants from India carries a Rs. 3,000 award. Please submit entries to the Design Contest Chair by September 15, 1995. FELLOWSHIPS: The Steering Committee will award fellowships, based on need and merit, to partially cover expenses of attendees from India. Application forms are available from Publicity Co-Chairs. IMPORTANT DATES: Regular papers/proposals for special session and panel to reach Program Chair June 1, 1995 Acceptance notification to authors August 15, 1995 Camera-ready papers to reach Publication Chair September 15, 1995 Tutorial proposals to reach Tutorial Chairs May 15, 1995 Design Contest entries to reach Design Contest Chair September 15, 1995 Conference Dates January 3-6, 1996 For any additional information regarding the conference, contact Publicity Chairs. Rishab Aiyer Ghosh rishab@dxm.ernet.in rishab@arbornet.org Vox +91 11 6853410 Voxmail 3760335 H 34C Saket, New Delhi 110017, INDIA ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jun 95 10:10:33 -0400 From: Nigel Allen Organization: 52 Manchester Ave., Toronto, Ont. M6G 1V3 Subject: Recycling Telephone Poles in British Columbia Here is a press release from BC Tel, formerly known as the British Columbia Telephone Company. I found the press release on the company's Web site at "http://www.bctel.net". I don't work for BC Tel. (By the way, the company is about 51% owned by GTE Corporation.) June 7, 1995 TELEPHONE-POLE RECYCLING PROJECT LAUNCHED Burnaby, B.C. - Old telephone and hydro poles are getting new life thanks to a joint venture involving B.C.Hydro, BC TEL and B.C. Wood Recycling Ltd. The three companies are partners in a project to recycle thousands of old poles into marketable lumber. Every year, about 5,000 poles in the lower mainland are removed. Now, instead of being disposed in landfill sites, many of the poles are being shipped to a wood-recycling facility in Surrey. First, any embedded nails, bolts or other metallic objects are removed from the poles. The outer part of the pole, which may have been treated with preservatives, is then stripped away. Finally, the inside wood -- usually high-quality untreated cedar -- is cut into a variety of widths and lengths. "Approximately 70 per cent of each pole is saved and manufactured into wood products such as 2x4s, 4x4s, siding, fencing and lumber for landscaping, said Ray Miller, president of B.C. Wood Recycling. "Our sawmill operation employs five people now and we may be expanding soon to keep up with the demand." Custom orders can also be arranged. The lumber is available for about 25 per cent less than prices at a retail lumber yard. "This project is a good example of BC TEL's commitment to reducing and recycling waste," said Greg Rideout, BC TEL's director of environment. "In 1994, our company diverted approximately 32 million pounds from the waste stream through recycling and reusing materials." B.C.Hydro's manager, safety and environment, Roy Staveley said, "In addition to maximizing environmental benefits and reducing costs to both B.C.Hydro and BC TEL, the wood-recycling operation has created an employment opportunity that supports Hydro's leadership role in the economic and social development of the province." B.C. Wood Recycling may be reached at (604) 596-1906. June 5 - 9 is Environment Week in Canada. For more information, please contact: Joanna Wyatt Verne Prior BC TEL media relations manager B.C. Hydro senior communications coordinator (604) 432-3853 (office), (604) 623-4529 (office) 1-604-975-0524 (pager) press release forwarded by Nigel Allen 52 Manchester Avenue, Toronto, Ontario M6G 1V3, Canada Internet: ndallen@io.org http://www.io.org/~ndallen Telephone: (416) 535-8916 ------------------------------ From: gsmicro@ios.com Date: Tue, 13 Jun 1995 02:13:17 -0400 Subject: More TSPS Stories In case anyone was wondering, the rather amatuer sketch below sorta represents what an AT&T TSPS operator console looked like in the early 80's: |-------------------| | DISPLAY | | | --------------------------------------------------- | | | BLV EMER ------------------ SPV BY | | RB RF | LINE TYPE LAMPS| | | ------------------ -------------- | | (Reg,Coin,Hotel,etc) | Rate Class | | | | Selection | | | -------------- | | XXXXXX CALL1 CALL2 CALL3 | | XFLIPX |-| |-| |-| | | XCHART | | | | | | -------- | | XXXXXX | | | | | | | Dial | | | XXXXXX | | | | | | ST | Pad |PR | | XXXXXX |-| |-| |-| | | | | -------- | ---------------------------------------------------- CALL 1,2 & 3 CONTAINED SUPERVISION LAMPS FOR ORIG AND CALLED PARTY KEY: BLV - Busy Line Verification BY - Position Busy (Do not accept calls) EMER - Emergency Interrupt Key PR - Position Release (ie HANGUP) RB - Ring Back (Calling) Party RF - Ring Forward (Called) Party Next to each of the CALL Keysets were slots in the console to store keypunch cards when manually "timing" a call. The "Rate Selection" keys were more commonly called "timing" keys, since they determined at what rate the system was to time and bill the call (Operator Assist, Pers to Pers, Collect, DDD). There were quite a few more keys, some of which have faded into memory. But the above is a fairly good representation of what the AT&T TSPS console looked like. Their locations may also be slightly off, but you get the picture. The dial pad, in addition to accepting a valid dialable number, could accept other numbers and codes not dialable from normal telephone lines, such as "121" for example to reach the 201 inward operator (to assist on in-area-code calls), and trouble codes that were supposed to alert traffic control personnel about possible trouble (such as repeated reorders, echo, no ring, etc). There were two sets of headset plugs on the left edge of the console, one for the operator, and one for a supervisor or trainee. In addition, supervisors could sit at actual terminals and log onto TSPS in such a way as to have their console mimmick every lamp lit and every key pressed from any console while listening to your call, to act as a monitoring and evaluation tool. The catch was that this terminal was in the same room, and all you had to do was watch that terminal briefly to see if the lamps went on and off in sync with yours. By the way, AT&T had a strict policy to complete every call in an average of 30 seconds. Trying to bring your average call time down after a three minute person-to-person coin-sent-paid call overseas was no small feat! We found a trick -- since we worked the night shift most of the time, we would go into the lounge, where there was a payphone, and dial 0, wait for one of our associates to answer, then hang up. We would do this for about five or ten minutes, and the averages would come back into sync. Kinda sneaky, but it worked. Finally, there was the dreaded "RED LIGHT OF DOOM" as we liked to call it. It was a blaring red lamp on the wall that lit when there where more than five callers waiting in the queue to be answered. When that light lit, it meant you better hustle and get those calls handled. On Mother's Day, the lamp almost never went out. Scot M. Desort Garden State Micro, Inc. +1 201-244-1110 +1 201-244-1120 Fax gsmicro@ios.com ------------------------------ From: Michael Wilshire Subject: Will Cable Companies Dominate Internet Access Market? Date: 13 Jun 1995 10:58:51 +0100 Organization: Demon Internet News Service Given the large number of cable companies who are reported to be trialling cable modem technology, I wondered whether other Internet Service Providers can be viable in the long term. These modems are reported to offer speeds of between 500kbps to 10Mbps, which is clearly well beyond that avaiable down an ordinary copper wire, and would enable all sorts of high bandwidth video applications. My question is this. The current Internet service providers' business is based on having open access to the telephone infrastructure -- anybody can dial in to their points of presence via the telephone network for the cost of a local or national call. The cable companies, however, will have little incentive to open up their networks to allow third party access, unless they are forced to do so by regulation -- and can furthermore offer a superior service. So what happens to the internet service providers once cable modems take off -- and customers start migrating to the cable companies? I would be very interested in any views on this topic -- particularly if you believe another outcome is possible. ------------------------------ From: Mike Buffa <71572.1361@CompuServe.COM> Subject: BICOM Two Port Voice Processing Board Not Needed Date: 13 Jun 1995 15:07:54 GMT Organization: TTM I have a brand new Bicom two port Voice Processing board that I would like to get rid of. Call 407 620 1372, Fax 407 629 7369. Mike ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #281 ****************************** Received: from delta.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa04738; 14 Jun 95 5:15 EDT Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA27837 for telecomlist-outbound; Tue, 13 Jun 1995 22:19:06 -0500 Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA27829; Tue, 13 Jun 1995 22:19:03 -0500 Date: Tue, 13 Jun 1995 22:19:03 -0500 From: TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson) Message-Id: <199506140319.WAA27829@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #282 TELECOM Digest Tue, 13 Jun 95 22:19:00 CDT Volume 15 : Issue 282 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Help With Accessing X.25 Network to UK (Doug Reuben) BT to Takeover Cable & Wireless? (Adam Ashby) VLSI Circuits For GSM Hand-Held Terminal (Riccardo Mariani) What Does Mike Harris Election in Ontario Mean For Telecom? (Nigel Allen) OFMC'95 (Frederic Vecoven) Want to Start Phone/CATV Installation Business. Any Advice? (Brent Young) GSM Management (Lubos Elias) Current Issue of Federal Communications Law Journal (Chris Roth) Voice Recognition in Security Application (dmatthewf@aol.com) GSM Networks of the World, June 1995 (Kimmo Ketolainen) How Many Novell TSAPI Servers Exist? (Lucky Green) Broadband Radio For the Local Loop (P.A.Williamson) "Transfer" to Voice Mail With POTS (John Nestoriak) Question: Two Phone Lines on Three Wires; is it Possible? (Charles Buckley) Help Needed Extending a Call via Modem Re: Centrex (Dave Sieg) Manufacturing Opportunity in India (RCPeel) Last Laugh! Are You Perverted? (Matthew Iuculano) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of public service systems and networks including Compuserve and America On Line. 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Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dreuben@interpage.net (Doug Reuben) Subject: Help With Accessing X.25 Network to UK Date: Tue, 13 Jun 1995 06:36:01 EDT After a somewhat extended absence from the Digest, I return with a question: We are trying to connect with a number of paging systems in the UK via X.25. Currently, we page our customers in the UK (as well as elsewhere around the world) by placing an actual phone call to their paging system, and relaying alpha/numeric data that way. While we have a number of very competitive long distance providers (compared to AT&T, MCI, et. al.), we still have to charge UK customers something on the order of 20 - 25 cents per page in order to access the various paging systems there. However, a number of paging and SMS companies in the UK have indicated that they would be willing to allow us to access their paging terminals (the equipment that they use to send out pages to their customers) if we could connect to them via X.25 and send out our paging information that way. With that in mind, I made a number of inquiries with local telephone companies, LD companies, and even British Telecom (whose US office did not return any of my phone calls, BTW :( ). All of them were met with "You want to do what?!", or "No one uses X.25, we're phasing that out" (quote from NYTel...). Rather than waste my time with this nonsense (and so that I can begin to catch up on some more work so I can start posting about cellular service again on the Digest! :) ), I figured I'd inquire here. Basically, what we need is a means to send X.25 messages to the UK on a rather sporadic basis. Although we have a number of customers there, we do not by any means have a steady, 24-hour flow of traffic which would justify a dedicated line. Ideally, I'd like Interpage to be able to pick up a phone, dial out to some "X.25 port", enter an access code, etc., and then transmit a message to a paging company in the UK, or elsewhere. After the message is transmitted, we hang up, and do not connect again until we need to send out another page. After looking over BT's literature, it seems like they offer such a service, and yet they were the ones who never phoned back. Additionally, although we may know a thing or two about the Internet (maybe :) ), we don't really know too much about X.25. So we are sort of in the dark on this one, and could use some help. Thus, first off, is there any good, brief, non-technical explanation of the X.25 protocol, what X.25 networks exist, how X.25 networks are interconnected, and how one would access a given network or set of networks? Secondly, is our idea a workable/practical solution to these high per-page costs? That is, could we transmit alpha pages of 240 characters (or numeric pages if the distant terminal permits) via X.25 at less than 20 cents per page, with a reasonable monthly access rate? We would also be willing to explore giving free access to our system to a firm which will allow us to connect to their X.25 network providing (and perhaps I don't understand this correctly) that we can use their X.25 connection to send pages to the UK and elsewhere. Again, sorry for my lack of knowledge regarding both the form, organization, and structure of X.25 networking and it's current implementations. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance, Doug Reuben * dreuben@interpage.net * (203) 499 - 5221 Interpage Network Services -- http://www.interpage.net, telnet interpage.net E-Mail Alpha/Numeric Paging, News, Weather, Network Monitoring, and Fax Svcs] P.S. It's been too long ... I just can't resist! :) - Cell One/Boston's cutover to AT&T's Autoplex switches is STILL not complete, despite having one month now after the conversion to correct all the bugs. Some bugs aren't small: CO/NY customers roaming in Boston can *forward* their calls, but are unable to unforward them. Different CO/Boston accounts (ie, 617/508, etc.) have different feature codes which do not work properly. Call delivery at night continues to be spotty at times. - Cell One/VT customers again have lost the use of their *28/*29 feature codes. They can not reliably turn on and off automatic call delivery. Two weeks ago, CO/VT customers could not use feature codes in the Boston 00007 system, but the could in CO/Boston's NH 01485 system, the only remaining portion of CO/Boston's service area operating directly under a Motorola EMX. - Metro Mobile/CT (BAMS) 00119 customers as a result of the above can not force calls back to voicemail anywhere in the CO/VT 00313 system, including Franklin County, which used to be part of the Metro Mobile system. (A good way to get out of your MM service contracts!) - SNET/CT has almost completed through-service along US-7 in Western CT. US-7 extends from Norwalk, CT on Long Island Sound due North to Mass, VT, and the Canadian border. It is almost totally covered in VT by CO/VT, and in Mass by both the A (Metro Mobile) and B (SNET and NYNEX, soon to be SNET only) carriers. CT's portion of northern US-7, however had no coverage until recently. SNET now covers most of US-7, to about 10 miles south of the Mass border. On southern sections of US-7, covered by Metro Mobile and SNET, coverage is adequate, but the McCaw-owned Cell One/Litchfield County has no service whatsoever along US-7 (or most anywhere else for that matter) in Litchfield County. SNET's progress in that area has totally eclipsed the service offerings that the "A" side currently provides, as they continue to take advantage of being the only carrier in CT to cover all of the state. IMHO, Cell One/Litchfield should be acquired by Metro Mobile to create a statewide, unified A-side to compete with the "B". Anyhow, got that out of my system ...! :) More on these topics and others later, when I get a minute. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jun 1995 06:51:25 +0000 From: 1560440@nt.com Subject: BT to Takeover Cable & Wireless? Organization: Nortel Ltd., Maidenhead. England There is a rumour floating around London today that BT will launch a bid to takeover Cable & Wireless. The major monopoly issue that would arise -- BT would now own the main competition, Mercury -- would be averted by BT immediately selling Mercury. C&W shares have risen 12 points this morning on the news. Adam Ashby | 1560440@nt.com | Nortel Ltd. +44 162 881 2557 | | Maidenhead, U.K. ------------------------------ From: mariani@iet.unipi.it (Riccardo Mariani) Subject: VLSI Circuits For GSM Hand-Held Terminal Date: 13 Jun 1995 07:22:23 GMT Organization: Universita' di Pisa I'm looking for news and literature references about VLSI circuits for GSM hand-held terminal. Dr. Riccardo MARIANI Dep. Ingegneria Informazione Universita' di PISA - ITALY ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jun 1995 05:17:43 -0400 From: ndallen@io.org (Nigel Allen) Subject: What Does Mike Harris Election in Ontario Mean For Telecom? On June 8, Ontario voters elected the Conservative party, headed by Mike Harris. (Harris has not yet been sworn in as premier, but that will happen in a few days.) Telecommunications policy is primarily a federal responsibility in Canada, but the new government's plans to reduce welfare payments may lead to a lot of welfare recipients having their phone service disconnected because they are unable to pay their phone bills. Bell Canada does not currently have means-tested "lifeline" local service for low-income subscribers, although two-party service is available at lower rates than conventional service. But I suspect the combination of cutbacks by the provincial government in social assistance payments (and by the federal government in unemployment insurance benefits) and increases in monthly local service rates and installation charges will make some kind of lifeline telephone service necessary in Canada. A less visible consequence of the new Ontario government's cutbacks policy may be the layoff of some or all of the telecommunications policy experts within the Ministry of Economic Development and Trade. Computer and telecommunications operations personnel within the Management Board of Cabinet may also see their jobs vanish if they work they do is turned over to an outside contractor. All in all, it's not a good time to be poor or a government employee in Ontario. Nigel Allen 52 Manchester Avenue, Toronto, Ontario M6G 1V3, Canada Internet: ndallen@io.org http://www.io.org/~ndallen Telephone: (416) 535-8916 ------------------------------ From: vecoven@montefiore.ulg.ac.be (Frederic Vecoven) Subject: OFMC'95 Date: Tue, 13 Jun 1995 11:32:21 Organization: Universit de Lige Second Announcement and Call for Papers: OFMC'95 Liege, Belgium 25 and 26 September 1995 3rd Optical Fibre Measurement Conference FOR MORE INFORMATION, SEE : http://www.montefiore.ulg.ac.be http://www.montefiore.ulg.ac.be/congres/congres-en.html ------------------------------ From: brently@telerama.lm.com Subject: Want To Start Phone/CATV Installation Business. Any Advice? Date: 13 Jun 1995 10:26:36 GMT Organization: Telerama Public Access Internet, Pittsburgh, PA I'm currently with an RBOC, movement is slow to non existant to backwards. I've decided to branch off and start my own company installing phones, catv, jacks, extra lines, and some light modem/ computer set-ups. This decision also includes relocating to the Greater Cincinnati area so I may be closer to my daughter. Anyone out there have a similar business or does this kind of work, and can offer advice on the operations, etc., my sincere thanks in advance. Post or preferably email direct. Brent Young. brently@telerama.lm.com Pittsburgh, PA 412-481-0118 ------------------------------ From: Lubos.Elias@uakom.sk (Lubos Elias) Subject: GSM Management Date: 12 Jun 1995 18:33:37 +0200 Organization: UAKOM Banska Bystrica Hi, Could you advice me where to get info about GSM management (billing) software and hardware? Thanks, Lubos Elias elias@uakom.sk ------------------------------ From: croth@omnifest.uwm.edu (Chris Roth) Subject: Current Issue of Federal Communications Law Journal Date: 13 Jun 1995 00:09:37 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway FORWARDED FROM: /professional/law/first/tech(#105) From:croth(Chris Roth) The new issue of _Federal Communications Law Journal_ includes: * an article on space billboards and the law. Space billboards are orbiting objects designed to reflect light to Earth. A constellation-like pattern is then visible just after sunset and just before sunrise. Astronomers oppose such advertisements on scientific grounds. * an article on vertical integration and program access in the cable TV industry. * an article on the controversial dividing line between state regulation of electronic communication and federal preemption. _Federal Communications Law Journal_ now receives "generous" funding from three Regional Bell Operating Companies [RBOCS]: Ameritech, Bell Atlantic, and NYNEX. Chris Roth The First Amendment Teach-In ------------------------------ From: dmatthewf@aol.com (DMatthewF) Subject: Voice Recognition in Security Application Date: 12 Jun 1995 21:20:58 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Reply-To: dmatthewf@aol.com (DMatthewF) Is there software available to allow a PC to have voice recognition capabilities for a security application? I want to be able to definitely identify a person's "voice print" along with a password (spoken or DTMF). I don't need this package to handle the call, just voice recognition. Thanks, Matt DMatthewF@aol.com ------------------------------ From: Kimmo.Ketolainen@utu.fi (Kimmo Ketolainen) Subject: GSM Networks of the World, June 1995 Organization: Turun yliopisto =B7 University of Turku, Turku, Finland Date: Tue, 13 Jun 1995 05:29:05 GMT Here is a listing of countries that have adopted GSM. Please send any updates or corrections to me and Robert.Lindh@eos.ericsson.se. Country Operator name Net id Customer service ------- ------------- ------ ---------------- Andorra STA Argentina Australia Optus 505 02 +61 2 978 5678 Australia Telecom/Telstra 505 01 +61 18 01 8287 Australia Vodafone 505 03 +61 2 415 7236 Austria PTV Austria 232 01 Bahrain Batelco Belgium Belgacom 206 01 +32 2205 4000 Brunei Cameroon China Beijing Telecomm Admin Croatia Cyprus CYTA 280 01 Denmark Sonofon 238 02 +45 80 20 21 00 Denmark Tele Danmark Mobil 238 01 +45 80 20 20 20 Egypt Estonia Eesti Mobiil Telefon 248 01 +372 2639 7130 Estonia Radiolinja Eesti 248 02 +372 2524 7000 Fiji Finland Radiolinja 244 05 +358 800 95050 Finland Telecom Finland 244 91 +358 800 7000 France SFR 208 10 +33 1 44 16 20 16 France France Telecom 208 01 +33 1 44 62 14 81 Germany DeTeMobil 262 01 +49 511 288 0171 Germany Mannesmann 262 02 +49 172 1212 Gibraltar GibTel 266 01 Greece Panafon 202 05 +30 944 00 122 Greece STET 202 10 +30 93 333 333 Hong Kong SmarTone 454 06 +852 2880 2688 Hong Kong Telecom CSL 454 00 +852 2803 8450 Hong Kong HK HTCLGSM 454 04 Hungary Pannon GSM 216 01 +36 1 270 4120 Hungary Westel 900 216 30 +36 30 303 100 Iceland Post & Simi 274 01 +354 96 330 India PT SATELINDO Indonesia TELKOMSEL 510 10 Iran T.C.I. Ireland Telecom Eireann 272 01 +353 42 31999 Israel Cellcom Israel Italy Italia Telecom 222 01 +39 6615 20309 Italy Omnitel Japan Jersey Jersey Telecom 234 50 +44 1534 88 28 82 Kuwait MTC Laos Latvia LMT 247 01 +371 2256 7764 Lebanon Libancell Liechtenstein 228 01 Luxembourg Telekom 270 01 +352 4088 7088 Macao Malaysia Malta Advanced Marocco Monaco France Telecom 208 01 Monaco SFR 208 10 Namibia MTC Netherlands PTT Telecom 204 08 +31 50 688 699 New Zealand Bell South 530 01 Nigeria Norway NetCom 242 02 +47 92 00 01 68 Norway TeleNor Mobil 242 01 +47 22 03 03 01 Oman Pakistan Phillipines Portugal Telecel 268 01 +351 931 1212 Portugal TMN 268 06 +351 1 793 91 78 Qatar Qatarnet 427 01 Romania Russia Mobile Tele, Moscow +7 271 00 60 Russia North-West GSM, St. Petersburg Saudi Arabia Singapore Singapore Telecom 525 01 Slovenia South Africa MTN 655 10 +27 11 445 6000 South Africa Vodacom 655 01 +27 82 111 Sri Lanka Spain Telefonica Spain 214 07 Spain Airtel Sweden Comviq 240 07 +46 586 686 10 Sweden Europolitan 240 08 +46 708 22 22 22 Sweden Telia 240 01 +46 771 91 03 50 Switzerland PTT 228 01 +41 46 05 64 64 Syria [SYR-01] 223 01 Syria [SYR MOBIL[SYR-01] 223 01 Syria [SYR MOBILE SYR] 263 09 Taiwan Thailand AIS GSM Turkey Telsim 286 02 Turkey Turkcell 286 01 +90 800 211 0211 UAE UAE Etisalat 424 01 UAE UAE Etisalat 424 02 Uganda U. Kingdom Cellnet 234 10 +44 1753 50 45 48 U. Kingdom Vodafone 234 15 +44 1836 1100 Vietnam Kimmo Ketolainen +358 40 500 2957 Studentville 84 A 10 B B7 FIN-20540 Turku B7 Finland ------------------------------ From: shamrock@netcom.com (Lucky Green) Subject: How Many Novell TSAPI Servers Exist? Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 1995 19:42:52 GMT I need to know how may Novell TSAPI servers are out there in operation. Please respond by email. TIA, Lucky Green PGP encrypted mail preferred. ------------------------------ From: cairns!eem5paw@uunet.uu.net (P.A.Williamson) Subject: Broadband Radio for the Local Loop Date: 13 Jun 1995 14:44:19 GMT Organization: The University of Hull, UK Reply-To: P.A.Williamson@e-eng.hull.ac.uk There has been alot of talk lately about Video on Demand and High Bandwidth Internet access via the telephone system. There are technologies developed/ing such as fibre-to-the-home and ADSL (via copper pairs) which can provide tele- phony links capable of transferring 2Mb/s. I would be grateful for any information concerning the use of Broadband Radio to provide the last drop to the home (thus avoiding the expensive installation costs and the limited bandwidth of the copper pair.) So far I have come across the following systems which could be used; Cellular Vision, Liberty Communications (Milicom), Time Space Radio and a couple of BT systems. There are also quite a few systems for Radio in the Local Loop which are capable of providing a basic ISDN line (or less) such as Ionica, CT2, DECT and the many mobile technologies such as IS-54/95, GSM, AMPS. I am interested to know if any of these systems could be altered, say by using the technologies at a microwave frequency to provide a high bandwidth and smaller cell size for re-use. I would like to know about systems for the UK/Europe and about other systems from countries such as USA (even though the frequencies used may be unavaliable here.) Any information, discussions on the above, or pointers to systems which I have not come across would be most welcome. Cheers, Paul Williamson ------------------------------ From: john@telecnnct.com (John Nestoriak) Subject: "Transfer" to Voice Mail With POTS Date: Tue, 13 Jun 1995 11:50:18 EDT I am looking for a way (either a PC voice card and software or answering machine) to send an already answered call to "voice mail". The way I'd like it to work is this: 1) Answer the call and determine it's not for me (ie for roommate). 2) Press keypad digit (or a button on an answering machine) to take over the call and take the message. I should be able to hangup the extension at this point. Ideally it would work from any phone in the house but if it worked only from the machine it would be ok. Also multiple (3+) mail boxes would be great. Does anyone know of an existing machine that can do this? Alternatively is there a voice card that could be programed to do the same? I could probably handle the programming myself if I had documentation. If I go the voice card route I'd like a card that can detect when another extension on the same line is off hook. That would enable me to know when the voice card should be "listening". Alternatively it could probably be done with timers and such but not as cleanly. Any ideas? John Nestoriak ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jun 1995 10:22:56 -0700 From: ceb@netcom.com (Ch. Buckley) Subject: Question: Two Phone Lines on Three Wires; is it Possible? I was looking in to adding a second line to a house build in the early 1960's in GTE-land in NC. The house is wired throughout with three-wire (not three-pair) cable, i. e. red-green-yellow. Line number one uses red and green. My question is, is it possible to get GTE to run a second line down the yellow, using one of the previous wires as a common return? Is there something special I need to do to get them to do this? How does one determine which is the common return? I spoke to their customer service reps about this, but it seems that GTE is sitll hiring people who cannot even effectively put people on hold while they ask up the chain of command something they don't know (I was cut off), so I tend to a priori distrust the answer I might get from them. Add to that that they're trying to aggressively sell inside wiring service, whereby they run the wire from the demark point to "a new jack". I wouldn't mind paying the extra money so much, it's just that the quality of the wiring I tend to get from them is ugly and bad - wires in plain site, poorly tied down, exposed to elements, and/or fatigue failure through repeated motion, ignoring previous conduit and wire passageway infrastructure, etc. The second line would be used for data transmission, so this may mean that FDM multiplexing is not an option. The equipment for that is not usually readily available for customer-side wiring, anyway. Please reply also by e-mail, if you would. Thanks for any information you may have. ------------------------------ From: dave@tricon.net (Dave Sieg) Subject: Help: Extending a Vall via Modem Re: Centrex Date: 13 Jun 1995 18:22:58 GMT Organization: Tri-Cities Connection Reply-To: dave@tricon.net I am having an argument with my local telco regarding centrex lines. We operate an ISP that requires dozens of incoming telco lines which allow our users to dial a local number and connect to our analog modems on a free local call basis. In examining our tariff, we found that Centrex lines with no features were very inexpensive. The tariff says you only need a NAR for outgoing calls. Obviously since all calls on these lines are incoming only, no long distance is involved, and we would only need the minimum of one NAR as per the tariff. The tariff does state that we would be required to have one NAR per line if the line will be connected to terminal equipment capable of "extending" the call (ie an electronic key or PBX system). The local telco has now told us that they interpret our connecting modems to these lines as "extending" the calls, and therefore the requirement of one NAR per line (which makes the centrex lines even more expensive than a regular line) applies. In my humble opinion, the "call" terminates in our modem. Do any of you telecom experts know of a test case where this concept has been judged to be either valid or invalid? They seem to think that because a user has access via our host to the Internet via the modem, the call is being "extended". The cost difference between a regular line, and a centrex line with no features and no NAR is substantial. At one point a telco manager said "Well, the tariff may say you can get this, but we can't make any money selling it to you, so we won't." I won't mention any names here, but please email me if you can help! David W. Sieg The Tri-Cities Connection (615) 378-0175 dave@tricon.net 1008 Executive Park Blvd #102 Kingsport, TN 37660 ------------------------------ From: rcpeel@aol.com (RCPeel) Subject: Manufacturing Opportunity in India Date: 13 Jun 1995 23:15:13 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Reply-To: rcpeel@aol.com (RCPeel) Turnkey Manufacturing Opportunity in India: Joint venture sought for a turnkey manufacturing venture in India. We are looking for a partner than can provide: 1. 40 % equity investment; 2. Complete technology package; 3. Buy and export the major portion of products; 4. Arrange for financing to purchase major machinery. We offer: 1. A well qualified partner; 2. Partner has a B.S. in Botany and B.S. in Pharmacy; 3. Partner currently owns and manages a joint venture with a large German company; 4. 60% equity investment up to $1.5 million US; 5. Necessary influence to complete the project expediously; 6. Land available in Hyderabad. For consideration send your concept including the following: 1. Product and technology envisioned; 2. Estimated total cost, capital investment, and operating costs; 3. Schedule for planning and construction; 4. Expected annual production rate; 5. Acceptable buy-back price; We are particularly interested in petrochemical related or telecommunica- tions products, but will consider any good project. Respond by to RCPeel@aol.com or (801) 581-9933 ------------------------------ From: killer3@ix.netcom.com (Matthew Iuculano) Subject: Last Laugh! Are You Perverted? Date: 13 Jun 1995 04:06:00 GMT Organization: Netcom Call this number 1-800-770-6130. Mark [TELECOM Digest Pervert Editor's Note: Ah, but be careful fellow perverts! It is one of those thirty dollars for the first minute lines, with *very little* mention that the charge will given to the caller who presses certain buttons on the phone. They do not ask for any credit card number, nor do they refer you to a 900 number, etc. They just start breathing heavily and telling you about the kinds of things they're going to do to you and would like you to do to them. If you press a couple buttons on your phone once they answer apparently the charges commence at that point. Best use a payphone to call this number rather than risk having the charges come through to you, or else call it from your office or a hotel switchboard, etc. And remember, where 800 numbers are concerned, the use of *67 means nothing, so take care these ladies don't get their hands in your wallet or purse without you realizing it. No true pervert ever wants to have to pay for it. Let's check and see if they were smart enough to block payphones and COCOTS from reaching them. Reports experiences back here please. PAT] ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #282 ****************************** Received: from delta.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa10732; 14 Jun 95 10:32 EDT Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id BAA00816 for telecomlist-outbound; Wed, 14 Jun 1995 01:10:15 -0500 Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id BAA00807; Wed, 14 Jun 1995 01:10:12 -0500 Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 01:10:12 -0500 From: TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson) Message-Id: <199506140610.BAA00807@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #283 TELECOM Digest Wed, 14 Jun 95 01:10:00 CDT Volume 15 : Issue 283 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Re: Plan to Abolish FCC (Curtis Wheeler) Re: Plan to Abolish FCC (Russell Blau) Re: Plan to Abolish FCC (sjslavin@aol.com) Re: Plan to Abolish FCC (Mike Curtis) FCC Part 90/88 Refarming June 15 Open Meeting (sjslavin@aol.com) Re: Auction All the Spectrum (Pat Martin) Remodeling the FCC (David G. Cantor) Re: Johnny Mnemonic - Waste of Time, Money (Matt Ackeret) Re: Johnny Mnemonic - Waste of Time, Money (Michael Hejtmanek) Re: Johnny Mnemonic - Waste of Time, Money (Hovig Heghinian) AT&T 'True(?) Messages' (Mark Cuccia) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of public service systems and networks including Compuserve and America On Line. It is also gatewayed to Usenet where it appears as the moderated newsgroup 'comp.dcom.telecom'. Subscriptions are available to qualified organizations and individual readers. Write and tell us how you qualify: * telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu * The Digest is edited, published and compilation-copyrighted by Patrick Townson of Skokie, Illinois USA. 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Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Curtis Wheeler Subject: Re: Plan to Abolish FCC Date: 14 Jun 1995 01:03:44 GMT Organization: Chevron, La Habra, CA LLOYD.S.WILKERSON@gte.sprint.com wrote: > I watched part of a press conference held by (I think) the Progress > and Freedom Foundation people on C-SPAN over the weekend. Apparently, > once you buy, lease, or obtain the rights to a frequency or band, and > there is interference to you by someone else (as in CATV leaking over > into the aircraft band), you would have the right to prosecute the > offending party for tresspass. Seems to me it would give the owners > of today's stations in the East U.S. to sue the owners of stations in > the Midwest or the West U.S. in the event of a band opening, or maybe > in the case of tropo ducting of some signals. Did anyone else watch > any of this and get the same impression? > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: People who talk like that display a > woeful ignorance of how radio waves and radios in general operate. > [stuff deleted] > While I certainly have complaints of my own with the FCC because of > some aspects of their operation -- their field investigators who used > to drive up and down the streets triangulating on CB'ers they did not > like years ago provided the example of 'jackboot thugs' all other federal > agencies including BATF could only hope to someday emulate -- I still > feel some technical regulation of the airwaves is essential. I don't > think they have much business regulating content, but I think they have > done quite well with technical standards over the years. PAT] The FCC is probably in dire need of "process re-engineering". But the idea of eliminating an agency that keep telecommunications in order is nuts. The "Progress and Freedom Foundation" plan to abolish the FCC seems to have been created by a group of people that do not understand the first thing about radio based (wireless) communications. There is an entire list of people involved with the proposal whose titles give no indication they are qualified to propose ideas that have any impact on "technology". These people seem to primarily be lawyers and economists. While they make some good point abouts technology being slowed by regulation and the cost of compliance, their proposal would be a technical nightmare. The PFF has a web site. http://www.pff.org The "Plan to Abolish the FCC" is in a document titled "The Telecom Revolution - - An American Opportunity". http://www.pff.org/telecom_revolution.html Happy reading. Curtis Wheeler - San Ramon, CA KD6ELA / GROL / Pvt. Pilot [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: In fact, someone from PFF wrote me to say that their plans had been misrepresented in this forum, and they hoped people would contact them for a more accurate and truthful version. I guess anyone interested in sorting all this out will go get the document in question. PAT] ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Plan to Abolish FCC From: rblau@neteast.com (RUSSELL BLAU) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 95 02:20:00 -0400 Organization: Online Technologies, Inc. - Modem: 301-738-0000 Reply-To: rblau@neteast.com (RUSSELL BLAU) Quoting Paul J Zawada re: Plan to Abolish FCC: PJ> This proposal doesn't address how to deal with International Agreements PJ> (which are mainly concerned with shortwave operation under 30 MHz). What PJ> do we do about that. It also doesn't seem to (based on published reports, I haven't read the original document) deal with ITU-T regulations which establish permitted uses for virtually the entire spectrum. Those regulations have the force of law under international treaties that the U.S. has ratified. The PFF proposal apparently would turn the U.S. into an international outlaw by allowing uses of the spectrum that are inconsistent with the ITU-T rules. Russell Blau Tel: 202-424-7835 Swidler & Berlin, Chtd. Fax: 202-424-7645 Washington, D.C. ------------------------------ From: sjslavin@aol.com (SJSlavin) Subject: Re: Plan to Abolish FCC Date: 12 Jun 1995 23:16:50 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Reply-To: sjslavin@aol.com (SJSlavin) The idea is that DOJ will handle complaints or enforcement issues as you describe -- kind of hard to believe that an interferrence issue would be resolved through them -- in the courts?? Even Newt couldn't dream up something like this. It boggles my mind. They see the 150+ people in the FCC's licensing division and see this as a great reduction in cost. I am amazed. ------------------------------ From: wd6ehr@kaiwan.com (Mike Curtis) Subject: Re: Plan to Abolish FCC Date: 10 Jun 1995 11:16:27 -0700 Organization: KAIWAN Internet (310-527-4279,818-756-0180) LLOYD.S.WILKERSON@gte.sprint.com wrote: > I watched part of a press conference held by (I think) the Progress > and Freedom Foundation people on C-SPAN over the weekend. Apparently, > once you buy, lease, or obtain the rights to a frequency or band, and > there is interference to you by someone else (as in CATV leaking over > into the aircraft band), you would have the right to prosecute the > offending party for tresspass. Seems to me it would give the owners > of today's stations in the East U.S. to sue the owners of stations in > the Midwest or the West U.S. in the event of a band opening, or maybe > in the case of tropo ducting of some signals. Did anyone else watch > any of this and get the same impression? I didn't see this program, but am reasonably familiar with the problems and how FCC handles them. Occasionally there will be band openings on VHF and UHF bands. Fortunately, these are rare. When this happens, the stations simply must accept the interference, as I'm certain a perusal of the FCC regulations will show. They don't "own" the frequency -- they're given the use of it IN A SPECIFIC GEOGRAPHIC AREA. If through no fault of their own Mother Nature decides to "change the rules" for a while, they just have to tolerate it. Broadcast stations are under very strict rules regarding antenna radiation patterns and such. Also, in areas frequently subject to propagation (i.e. Los Angeles and San Diego, 120 miles apart), TV stations are made on adjacent channels (LA has 2, 4, 5, 7, 9, 11, and 13; San Diego has 8 and 10, and maybe others?? I live in LA), which minimizes interference potential. > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: People who talk like that display a > woeful ignorance of how radio waves and radios in general operate. I > recall when the late Ayn Rand used to talk about how there should be > no governmental control of the airwaves and that everyone should be > allowed to do their own thing and 'let the most powerful transmitter > be the one that is heard ...'. She was ignorant about radios also. > I don't care if you are pushing 50,000 watts; if I get up next to some > receiver with a hundred milliwatt transmitter I am going to jam your > signal. I can right now, in the privacy of my home with the limited > stuff I have here prevent the neighbors on either side of me from watching > Channel 2 on television ... or make it pretty miserable for them. So if > your signal comes into my home and I block it out am I 'trespassing' on > your property? All you people who favor private ownership of the airwaves > via auction or selling them to one another, etc, what I want you to do > is get *your property* out of my house. I am going to start charging you > a fee for allowing your property to remain in my house. Along these lines, I've heard that an old CBer "trick" to shut up "channel hogs" was to get a cheap CB walkie-talkie, move the transmit crystal to receive (placing maybe a few hundred microwatts on the selected channel), tie it to a piece of twine, put a two ounce sinker on the other end, and toss it "bolero style" into the offending antenna, with the result that the affected station heard nothing but a loud heterodyne on that channel until the battery ran down. By using 6 penlight cells, this could be weeks. > While I certainly have complaints of my own with the FCC because of > some aspects of their operation -- their field investigators who used > to drive up and down the streets triangulating on CB'ers they did not > like years ago provided the example of 'jackboot thugs' all other federal > agencies including BATF could only hope to someday emulate -- I still > feel some technical regulation of the airwaves is essential. I don't > think they have much business regulating content, but I think they have > done quite well with technical standards over the years. PAT] While I certainly don't like "gestapo" type operations, I don't see the FCC's enforcement of CB violations in this light. Illegal CB operation is a serious problem. CB requires no electronic knowledge (and most CBers do their darndest to meet this requirement :-), and is therefore restricted to four watts and 40 channels. When CBers use 100 or 1000 watt amplifiers that they don't know how to properly tune for minimum interference to other services, and overmodulate their CBs with so-called "power mikes" (actually simple preamplified microphones that drive the AM modulation amplifier to more than 100% of the RF amplifier power, thereby causing splatter into other channels -- not unlike splashing water out of the bathtub by moving it too hard), it generates RF outside the CB frequencies. Because of this illegal operation, much trouble has been caused for others. The most obvious are users of other services, i.e. telephones, broadcast radio and TV, and even home audio equipment. But IMO the most serious is the "guilt by association" that has affected the Amateur Radio Service (HAM radio). For example, many housing owners associations and such now have restrictions against ANY type of antennae because of illegal CB activities. While there are exceptions, most amateur radio (HAM) operators are good neighbors. Hams are important to their communities, as they provide emergency communications when everything else is down -- but they can't do it without decent antennas. We have entire communities where outside (inside antennas are pretty well worthless for serious reliable long distance communications) antennas are prohibited. And when "the big one" hits (whichever "big one" your area might be prone to), it's likely that people will pay with their lives because of this misunderstanding regarding CBers and hams. The FCC has cut back on enforcement of illegal CB operation. There was a recent story on TV about a CBer running illegal power who rendered a home-operated business phone unusable for most of the day. It's hard for me to view the FCC as some kind of "Gestapo" operation if this is the kind of thing they're enforcing. As far as I'm aware, the FCC has never just "gone out looking for CBers". They would usually respond to specific complaints, and only after sending written notice to the concerned parties. My experience has been that, the more I know about the FCC and its actions, viewed in the light of understanding, the more they tend to make sense. Yes, some of the things they do are wrong, out of date, not in keeping with modern day technology, etc., but these tend to be in the minority. Mike Curtis wd6ehr@kaiwan.com [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Anymore -- since around 1985 or so? -- the FCC apparently couldn't care less what the CB'ers do. Please note that licensing isn't even required any longer; it is voluntary. I guess they finally gave up on it. Not so in the 1970's though; you are correct it was mostly in response to complaints from others that the FCC police would go out looking for people in ernest. There were a few pretty well publicized raids where they kicked the door in, went in and started pulling out wires, seizing the radios, etc. It was not much different than what we have seen with Secret Service/FBI raids on errant computer sites during the past decade. PAT] ------------------------------ From: sjslavin@aol.com (SJSlavin) Subject: FCC Part 90/88 Refarming June 15 Open Meeting Date: 13 Jun 1995 00:32:55 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Reply-To: sjslavin@aol.com (SJSlavin) For those interested in the ongoing restructuring of the spectrum under 512 MHz, Part 90 replaced by Part 88, aka "Refarming," it has finally made it to the June 15 public meeting agenda. The Commission will implement the rulemaking order and initiate yet another NPRM regarding migration to the new offset channels. Summarized, Refarming splits the channels in to thirds eventually, requiring existing 25KHz channels to go to 12.5, and eventually 6.25 KHz. The order will require all equipment sold as of 1-1-96 to be 25/12.5 compatible, for starters. If you are a private land mobile user under 512 this will effect you. It also does away with 1/4" of pages containing outdated administrative regulations. ------------------------------ From: pmartin@netcom.com (Pat Martin) Subject: Re: Auction All the Spectrum Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 1995 18:04:48 GMT In article , nx7u@primenet.com (Scott Townley) wrote: > In article mkuras@ccs.neu.edu (Michael > J Kuras) writes: >> I found this related article in the WSJ: >> SPECTRUM AUCTION PLANS MAY ACCELERATE >> House Republicans are considering a Congressional Budget Office >> recommendation to auction television broadcasters' existing analog >> channel spectrum seven years from now as part of a plan to balance the >> budget by 2002. It seems to me that this *idea* that the Federal Government is going to balance the budget by selling off radio spectrum is one of the most ridiculous ones to come down the pike in some time. The recent sell off of 120 MHz of Private Microwave spectrum (about 20 TV channels worth?) generated something like $7 billion. That is a lot of money, until you start dealing with the Federal Government. I do not have all the figures, such as what this years deficit is, but I beleive the best comparison is that this is much like someone giving me enough money to pay one month's house payment. I will gladly take it but six months from now it will have made no difference at all. The government is going to have to stop spending so much money. Even if they do manage to balance the budget one year, which is doubtful, what about all of the years after? Patrick L. Martin pmartin@netcom.com ------------------------------ Subject: Remodeling the FCC Reply-To: dgc@math.ucla.edu Date: Tue, 13 Jun 1995 11:59:21 -0700 From: David G. Cantor While recent proposals to abolish the FCC may seem extreme, they do suggest that the purpose and function of the FCC should be re-evaluated and revised. The FCC has numerous functions including: 1. Assigning spectrum, historically at no charge, but recently, at auctions. 2. Setting standards. 3. Establishing and enforcing regulations. 4. Setting, in large part, US Government communications policy How successful has the FCC been in these and other areas? For example, is its assignment of spectrum rational? Is it fair? Is spectrum used efficiently? Does the assignment serve the best interests of the US public? Are the standards set by the FCC reasonable? How do they compare with private standards? The latter include, for example, standards for VCRs, CDs, PCs, etc. Are the standards consistent with modern technology? Are the regulations enforced adequately and fairly? Is US policy clear? Is it appropriate? Is it adequate? My personal belief is that the FCC is deficient in all of the above, areas but I believe that these and numerous other questions should be examined. What do other telecom readers think? David G. Cantor Center for Communications Research dgc@ccrwest.org 4320 Westerra Court San Diego, CA 92121 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jun 95 17:26:08 -0700 From: Matt Ackeret Subject: Re: Johnny Mnemonic - Waste of Time, Money Organization: Apple Computer Inc, Cupertino, CA In article TELECOM Digest Editor wrote: > So now, not only do we have an endless supply of newspaper editors and > reporters who make up *lies* about the internet, it looks like Hollywood > has discovered us also. I'm not really defending the movie, I haven't even seen it yet ... (Though I know I'll definitely see it, at least as a rental. I see most "mainstream" movies eventually. The most recent movie I saw I recommend very strongly -- "Forget Paris". Shmaltzy romantic movie(*), but absolutely hilarious also.) I presume you are aware that this is based on William Gibson's short story, and he wrote the script (possibly with other people doing some revisions). It's not like I like lies about _anything_, though it's just a movie! Do people really believe that Forrest Gump was involved in Watergate? Hopefully not, but it was a hilarious gag. (As well as him investing in Apple -- "some fruit company or something".) Plus, the idea of the moderator of a newsgroup totally bashing a movie seems odd. It seems that usually you don't take sides for/against other people's stuff as much. (*) That's not really an insult. I really liked "When Harry Met Sally" and "While You Were Sleeping..." too. But they are generally considered sappy sweet movies and "women's" movies. unknown@apple.com Apple II Forever [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I resented the false and misleading advertising I saw about that movie. All the advertising I saw had some reference to the 'net' and his use of the 'net'. I wasted fifteen dollars of my money to go see a stupid and very violent movie. I don't like stupidity and I don't like violence. There is supposed to be another movie in the next month or so called 'Internet - 2050' or something like that. I imagine it will be just as bad but I will reserve judgment until I go see it. Then when I do, I shall review it here also if you don't mind. PAT] ------------------------------ From: MHEJTMANEK@clients.switch.ch (MICHAEL HEJTMANEK) Subject: Re: Johnny Mnemonic - Waste of Time, Money Date: 13 Jun 1995 18:40:09 GMT Organization: Bossard AG, CH In TELECOM Digest Editor noted in respnse to kolstadj@PEAK.ORG: > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: No, it was no worse that those other two > farces you named, but I did not like those and did not go to see them > in the first place. I was not tricked into thinking that they had something > to do with the internet. I got there thirty minutes too late for the price > change from matinee to evening. They have a very low price -- about two > dollars -- from when they first open at 9:00 AM until early afternoon, > then the matinee price, then finally the evening prices. There were quite > a few things left unexplained in the movie. How the hacker-fish came to > have all those childhood memories he reloaded into Johnny's brain was a > mystery to me also. PAT] You loser. Who the hell told you that JM was about the internet? Haven't you read any William Gibson? Do you know who Longo is and what sort of art he makes? Silly ... but the best is that if you are really TELECOM Digest Editor and you are *interested* in the internet, then you might want to read WIRED Magazine ... it had an o.k. article about the film this month. Michael Hejtmanek // Switzerland // Earth // mhejtmanek@clients.switch.ch ------------------------------ From: hovig@tubman.ai.uiuc.edu (Hovig Heghinian) Subject: Re: Johnny Mnemonic - Waste of Time, Money Date: 13 Jun 95 16:01:10 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Reply-To: hovig@cs.uiuc.edu Joel Kolstad responded to PAT: > You're right that it has absolutely nothing to do with the Internet. The > Internet is still nebulous and unknown enough that movie makers can do > whatever they want to with it. Heck, witness Seaquest's "Innernet," which > is a direct rip-off of what sci-fi authors would like the Internet to be. Both of you failed to follow the first rule of consumption: caveat emptor; let the buyer beware. I read this story when it appeared in Omni magazine back ten years ago, and I tried reading it two or three times, but could never get into it, and didn't understand all the hype associated with it. That Omni is probably collecting dust back at Mom's house. Maybe I can sell it now. =) William Gibson is a non-tech person who writes about technology in a philosophical way that seems literarily or poetically palatable. Translation: he knows nothing, and makes it all up to be dramatic, like those Gothic, overdramatic Victorians did (e.g., Frankenstein, &c.). He did not, by his own admission, even know what a disk drive was until a few years ago, *after* writing the works that made him famous. This is a view of technology from a non-technologist, written for non-technologists. His fans don't read Dilbert, and we don't read his books. =) And there ain't nothing wrong with that. You know something is skewed in the universe when Rogert Ebert looks at Gene Siskel on their weekly review show and yells something like, "why the hell didn't they just use some satellite transmission with a sophisticated encryption scheme, something which you can do today, deliver this data, and end the movie in about two seconds?" 'Nuff said! Hovig Heghinian | A witty saying Department of Computer Science | proves nothing. University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign | -- Voltaire ------------------------------ From: Mark Cuccia Subject: AT&T 'True(?) Messages' Date: Tue, 13 Jun 95 10:26:00 GMT Due to my call-forwarding situation (my home phone forwards on no-answer (three-rings) and busy to my cellular, and my cellular forwards to Bell South Mobility's Mobile Memo voicemail after about five-rings), many friends and relatives calling via AT&T from out of the local calling area were telling me that they were 'cut-off' after about three to four rings. I told them that they really weren't being cut-off that soon and to just stay on the line and wait anyway for my voicemail to pick-up - IGNORE that DAMN recording from AT&T stating that they could 'forward' a message (for an extra CHARGE) by entering #123. They did not realize that my cellphone or mailbox was still ringing in the connection (but not indicated to them, the caller) while the AT&T recording was playing. I have NEVER used #123 to leave a 'forwarding message'. If the message did not get through, does AT&T still charge the caller? And what about answering machines & voicemail on the receiving end - The AT&T automated message forwarding would already start playing the caller's prerecorded message while the called party's voicemail/answering- machine was playing out ITS outgoing message and not yet in the record mode for incomming calls. Machine-to-Machine does NOT always work as well as Machine-to-Human or vice-versa, or Human-to-Human. I also find it INSULTING when, after I hear the standard busy I have heard all my life, the AT&T True Message prompts you with 'The Line is Busy- to leave a message...'; I KNOW ITS BUSY - I JUST HEARD A BUSY SIGNAL!!!! When I press # on an unanswered or busy AT&T calling card call, I am NOT going to enter 123 -- I will enter the next sequence call. I called AT&T this morning and demanded a supervisor- I was connected with a pleasant lady who told me that she has worked for 'The Telephone Company' since 1964. (It's always nice to speak with someone from the old Bell System days). She told me that they would program the system so that anyone using AT&T to call me at my home phone number would NOT get the 'True Messages' prompts. It will work the way I want it within four days. (of course, they could 'time-out' to a disconnect due to an unanswered call, but in my situation described above, if someone calls even my home number first and lets it roll over to the cellular and continues to let it roll over to voicemail, it is within the threshold. I also requested that my calling card numbers be flagged so that when *I* place an outgoing AT&T call charged to these valid AT&T accepted telecommunications cards (I also keep my South Central Bell card), *I* would not be insulted with 'True Messages'. She told me that they do not offer this feature but would take my comments and forward them to 'Headquarters'. I also thanked her but told her that I would post this on Internet and also sent a comment about this to the Common Carrier Bureau of the FCC. If AT&T (and local telcos) can flag a line as 3d-pty-bill-back RESTRICT or collect RESTRICT, or if they can flag a calling card account-number Plus PIN as restricted to calling specific numbers, then why couldn't they flag MY card numbers in their Database as 'NO True Messages'. I also informed her about my dislike of the way AT&T operators are presently connected to the line and the different time-zone situation (see my article in TD v.15#278, 'History of TSPS/TOPS/OSPS'). She also politely said that my complaints/suggestions in THIS matter would also be forwarded to 'Headquarters'. Of course, 'no-true-messages' on calls comming TO my home phone number will only work on calls via AT&T- I don't know if any other carriers or local telcos also offer this ANNOYANCE 'feature'. I DO remember several posts to this Forum back in April on 'Annoying Feature on Payphones'. While Bell doesn't semm to offer that on its payphones DURING the connection, Bell HAS posted a 'messaging forwarding' 800 service on the instruction cards on its payphones (but I haven't seen that for the past six years). Scum-of-the-Earth-Private-Payphones are another matter, of course. MARK J. CUCCIA PHONE/WRITE/WIRE: WORK: mcuccia@law.tulane.edu UNiversity 5-5954,TEL(+1 504 865 5954) UNiversity 5-5917,FAX(+1 504 865 5917) HOME: CHestnut 1-2497 4710 Wright Road | fwds.on busy/no-answr.to cellphone/voicemail New Orleans 28 | (+1 504 241 2497) Louisiana (70128) USA ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #283 ****************************** Received: from delta.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa15896; 14 Jun 95 12:54 EDT Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id DAA02182 for telecomlist-outbound; Wed, 14 Jun 1995 03:01:08 -0500 Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id DAA02174; Wed, 14 Jun 1995 03:01:05 -0500 Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 03:01:05 -0500 From: TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson) Message-Id: <199506140801.DAA02174@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #284 TELECOM Digest Wed, 14 Jun 95 03:01:00 CDT Volume 15 : Issue 284 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson June COOK Report Announcement (Gordon Cook via Monty Solomon) Alphanumeric Paging Software (David R. Coelho) Switched DS3 (D.J. Jones) T1 Data Transfer Rate (Nancy Hoft) North American Bell (Dave Levenson) MCI's Success in Business (John David Galt) Out of Town Dial Tones (John Mayson) ATM over T3: RFI (John Amenyo) From a Byte to Yottabyte (Ben Heckscher) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of public service systems and networks including Compuserve and America On Line. It is also gatewayed to Usenet where it appears as the moderated newsgroup 'comp.dcom.telecom'. Subscriptions are available to qualified organizations and individual readers. Write and tell us how you qualify: * telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu * The Digest is edited, published and compilation-copyrighted by Patrick Townson of Skokie, Illinois USA. 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Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 01:50:19 -0400 From: Monty Solomon Subject: June COOK Report Announcement Reply-To: monty@roscom.COM FYI Date: Tue, 13 Jun 1995 13:37:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Gordon Cook Subject: June COOK Report Announcement Gordon Jacobson says that he believes I forgot to post my announcement of the June issue to inet access. He is the author of a critique of the NYNEX position and wants to make reference to that if I understand him correctly. so ... The June COOK Report on Internet -> NREN is published today. At NYNEX's request we have embargoed this issue since we completed it on May 18. We present a lengthly exclusive intreview with NYNEX on its Internet plans, a lengthy critique of same, and a review of ANCS as AT&T's Internet strategy. NYNEX Internet Plans pp. 1-9 We interview Carl Ford, Staff Director Product Development, NYNEX Business Markets. Carl has been responsible for the development of NYNEX's Internet strategy which is expected to have a formal launch in the autumn. NYNEX is planning an IP dial tone. To ISPs in its service area it will say let us provide your modem pools and terminal servers. It suggests that this will save new ISPs some of their capital start up costs and benefit NYNEX by avoiding it having to install 50 and 100 pair cables into homes and residential neighborhoods. At the same time such a dial tone will also enable NYNEX to be a player in connecting telecommuters to corporate networks. This could be done by AT&T's Netware Connect Services (ANCS) or "by other means" which is how he phrased his response when we asked him if ANCS was in the picture. He talks about solving the inter LATA MFJ restrictions by creating an Internet hub within each LATA and inviting entities like NEARnet and NYSERnet to connect to each of them. He indicates that NYNEX is plainly interested in moving into network management services for ISPs. Levels 3 through 5 will provide NYNEX with financial oppportunities that basic transport does not. Yet he says it is not NYNEX's intention to try to move into areas where existing ISPs are comfortable in providing their own services. Rather he wants to provide services to enable new and less experienced ISPs to test the marketplace. NYNEX services will be provided through frame relay PVCs. Basic services with be provided through what NYNEX is calling Open Net. Safe Net would add commercial web servers and strong network security of the type that would interest large commercial clients. NYNEX Net would be a full blown NYNEX internet service. Ford considers NYNEX Net unlikely in the near term. He paints NYNEX's philosophy as Jeffersonian and decentralized in contrast to a head end strategy that says we know best what the whole world needs. NYNEX Critique pp. 10 - 16 Gordon Jacobson is a New York City based telecommunications consultant who has been studying the ISP marketplace very closely. We asked him to read and comment on our interview with NYNEX. He did so extensively providing an overview and annotated commentary that is only about 20% shorter than the original interview. Basically Gordon finds NYNEX's strategy to be one of setting itself up in businessto become a giant ISP in a couple of year's time. He asserts that the cost savings to an IP startup of not having to provide its own modem pool and terminal server are not that great. He warns that ISPs who buy the NYNEX service are in effect placing their customers in NYNEX hands - ripe for the taking when and if NYNEX introduces a full blown NYNEX Net. He states: "While it may be true that NYNEX's offer may allow all of the Tom, Dick and Harrys to become ISPs, that possibility begs the question: "Should the marketplace become so fractionalized by little providers servicing ten and twenty customers that there are not enough substantive providers around to stand up to the majors if and when they try to "corner the market?" He vigorously disagrees with Ford's discussion of regulatory and technical issues that will influence the pricing of NYNEX servcices. He paints the strategy as that of the wolf in sheep's clothing and despite Ford's protestations of being a Jeffersonian finds his model to be one of top down design. He takes Ford's assertions about backbone bandwidth weaknesses and an inherent need for settlements and shows why he believes them to be technically inaccurate. He is not impressed by Ford's assertion that while NYNEX would not charge users for megabytes sent and received, it likely would place a hourly charge on port usage beyond some to be defined limit. He does find NYNEX's designs for a Safe Net to be a desirable business market place niche for it to fulfill. Overall he feels that Ford may have floated some trial balloons with us and suggests that NYNEX needs to do a much more thorough job of researching what subscribers and ISPs are asking for, what they actually need and what the time frames are in which their needs realistically must be met. AT&T's Internet Strategy pp.1, 17 - 20 We present a literature review of AT&T's partnership with Novell in the development of AT&T NetWare Connect Services (ANCS) now in beta test with Ziff Davis, Hallmark Cards, and Millard Refigeration. By moving TCP/IP into the Netware kernel, ANCS promises to offer corporate, university and governmental LAN managers a seemless and easy way to connect their LANs into a wide area network, one which, because it can be run across AT&T's huge global network, offers the prospect of a private Internet with better security services than the publicly available global Internet. A niche market for AT&T. But a huge and lucrative one. AT&T also has a WAN version of Lotus Notes called Network Notes. According to one of the trade journals AT&T is positioning it to compete with the Microsoft Network. Why is ANCS important? As explained in the March 27 Computer Reseller News, TCP/IP has been given "equal footing with IPX in NetWare environments by unbundling IPX from the NetWare Core Protocol (NCP) so that IP can be tightly coupled with NCP ... " We were surprised by the general lack of awareness of ANCS among technical Internet sources whom we querried. Connecting NetWare LANs to the Internet is done all the time. However under the IPX version of NetWare, the process is kludgy and time consuming. If ANCS works as advertised, and if AT&T prices it attractively, it should create a potentially major market, they all agreed. Another unknown is the kind and extent of linkage to the global Internet that ANCS will offer its customers. There will surely be some linkage. However, the ANCS developments represent yet another fragmentation of the Internet into private value added services. We wonder if a time may be reached when the public internet becomes a less valuable commodity because of this fragmentation? We have also heard rumors that AT&T is going to launch a major dial up gateway to the Internet and other AT&T network services before the end of the summer. Tom Evslin VP of Network Services and Marni Ehrlich, ANCS Marketing Director were frequently mentined in the trade literature on ANCS. Erik Grimmelmann the PI on AT&T's portion of the InterNic and the AT&T insider we have known as responsible for AT&T's Internet strategy since February of 1992 was never mentioned. Yet when we called into AT&T we found that Ehrlich reports to Grimmelmann who in turn reports to Evslin. This confirmed our belief that AT&T at last does have an internet strategy worth noticing and that it is ANCS. Colorado Study Part 3 pp. 21 - 22 This two page installment concludes our interview with the State Librarian. It contains the interview with Guy Cook of Colorado Supernet and begins the interview with Ken Klingenstein. Gordon Cook, Editor & Publisher Subscript.: Individ-ascii $85 The COOK Report on Internet -> NREN Non Profit. $150 431 Greenway Ave, Ewing, NJ 08618 Small Corp & Gov't $200 (609) 882-2572 Corporate $350 Internet: cook@cookreport.com Corporate. Site Lic $650 http://www.netaxs.com/~cook <- Subscription Info & COOK Report Index ------------------------------ From: drc@ppt.com (david r coelho) Subject: Alphanumeric Paging Software Reply-To: sales@ppt.com Organization: Personal Productivity Tools, Inc Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 06:43:47 GMT David Coelho Personal Productivity Tools, Inc sales@ppt.com ALPHANUMERIC PAGING SOFTWARE NOW SHIPPING Fremont, Calif., June 13, 1995 -- PERSONAL PRODUCTIVITY TOOLS, Inc today announced the availability of version 2.2 of the ETHERPAGE(TM) alphanumeric paging solution for Unix workstations. ETHERPAGE is the first commercial product to provide an enterprise-wide alphanumeric paging capability for unix workstation networks. Targeted at organizations that require a client-server solution, EtherPage provides exceptional robustness to insure that messages are delivered efficiently and without fail. Priced from $595 to $2195, the product is shipping now for SunOS 4.1.X, Solaris 2.x and HP-UX. INTEGRATION EtherPage supports automatic generation of pages from email, from user written scripts, and user written programs. A C application programming interface makes it possible for users to add a robust paging capability to their applications. EtherPage can be integrated tightly into numerous network monitoring environments including SunNet Manager, HP Openview, Tivoli, Boole & Babbage, and numerous others. FEATURES The following summarizes key features of the product: Command line interface, suitable for user written scripts GUI interface, available for Openlook and Motif Pager aliases which allow messages to be sent to multiple pagers Extremely powerful filtering capabilities which allow messages to be sent to different pagers based on time of day, day of week, recipient, sender, message content, etc Automatic insertion of sender identification into messages Automatic suppression of duplicate messages Automatic splitting of long messages into multiple pages Automatic forwarding of messages between multiple servers Support for multiple concurrent modems User definable per paging service message size limits Automatic email confirmation Automatic truncation of messages Job logging and accounting User definable shell scripts with macro expansion for handling successful/failed delivery of messages User definable retry limits Robust handling of modem errors Robust handling of phone line problems including busy, no answer Robust handling of paging service errors such as invalid pager id Error recovery including automatic email of problem report Job batching for rapid delivery of jobs in a single phone call Client-server architecture for centralized management UUCP style tty locking for shared tty/modem usage User definable modem configuration Symbolic configuration files for easy maintenance Support for IXO, TAP, PET protocols Support for SNPP (RFC 1645) protocol Support for touch-tone message delivery ROBUST, EFFICIENT, DEPENDABLE EtherPage provices extremely robust delivery of messages. A message queuing system insures that messages are always delivered. Messages are batched for efficient delivery to the paging service. Sophisticated error recovery insures that messages are delivered reliably. EtherPage will work with most Hayes compatable modems, and utilizes industry standard protocols used by virtually all paging services. EASE OF USE A graphical user interface makes sending messages easy. A real-time graphical display of job status gives users feedback on the status of their jobs. Jobs can be removed from the queue if desired. A command line interface is available which makes integration with user written scripts, and programs easy. The product is easily integrated with email and network monitoring tools for automatic generation of messages. 30 DAY EVALUATION If you would like to evaluate EtherPage for 30 days, send email to sales@ppt.com. PERSONAL PRODUCTIVITY TOOLS, Inc PERSONAL PRODUCTIVITY TOOLS designs, develops and markets software products which enhance the productivity of open systems users. PERSONAL PRODUCTIVITY TOOLS headquarters is located at 43000 Christy Street, Fremont, CA, 94538. Telephone (510) 440-3050. Email sales@ppt.com. david r. coelho email: drc@ppt.COM personal productivity tools, inc 43000 christy street voice: (510) 440-3050 fremont, ca 94538-3198 usa fax: (510) 770-0728 ------------------------------ From: D.J. Jones Subject: Switched DS3 Date: 14 Jun 1995 01:56:49 GMT Organization: a2i network Anyone using switched DS-3 for their applications out there? Please respond privately to: meganac@rahul.net Thanks, D. J. Jones ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jun 1995 22:29:53 EDT From: Nancy Hoft Subject: T1 Data Transfer Rate Hi, Sorry to ask such a basic question, but I'm writing an article and would like to include the average T1 data transfer rate in bps or whatever the correct units are. I'd appreciate it if you could email me directly. Many thanks in advance for any information you can offer! Nancy Hoft, itech@mv.mv.com INTL TECH COMM SVCS RR2 Box 493 Moran Road Temple, NH 03084 Telephone: 603.878.4540 Fax: 603.878.0508 CompuServe: 71614,1574 ------------------------------ From: dave@westmark.com (Dave Levenson) Subject: Information Wanted on North American Bell Organization: Westmark, Inc. Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 03:01:49 GMT Can anybody tell me anything about a company in Houston, Texas called North American Bell, Inc.? Any good/bad/interesting knowlege of this firm or its management? Thanks. Dave Levenson Internet: dave@westmark.com Westmark, Inc. UUCP: uunet!westmark!dave Stirling, NJ, USA Voice: 908 647 0900 Fax: 908 647 6857 ------------------------------ From: John_David_Galt@cup.portal.com Subject: MCI's Success in Business Date: Tue, 13 Jun 95 21:42:20 PDT > This doesn't take a whole lot of thought, you know. Today, Barnes & > Noble/Bookstop, and MCI, look like the bluest of blue-chip investments. > Then, they looked like the bleeding-edge of high flyers. Milken did that. Specifics please? To my knowledge, Amway is responsible for MCI's success. (They were involved in marketing MCI for a long time. Maybe still are.) John David Galt ------------------------------ From: jmayson@p100dl.ess.harris.com (John Mayson) Subject: Out of Town Dial Tones Date: Tue, 13 Jun 95 15:17:06 EDT Several years ago I worked in New Jersey. I dialed my company's (a long distance company no less) 1-800 service number to dispatch a tech to our Chicago office. However, since I was dialing from NJ, I got the dispatch that serviced that particular section of that state. In order to dispatch a tech to Chicago, someone would need to place the call from Chicago. We temporarily got around it by calling our systems administrator in Chicago and asking him to forward us to that 1-800 number. My boss and I wondered if there was a way to call a particular number to get a Chicago or Atlanta or Pittsburgh, or what have you dial tone. We never did get an answer. However, I'm still curious, is this possible? John Mayson (MS 100/2243) Senior Engineer Harris Electronic Systems Sector PO Box 99000, Melbourne FL USA 32902 Voice (407) 727-6389 | Fax (407) 729-3801 | Pager (407) 635-3606 internet john.mayson@harris.com | http://p100dl.ess.harris.com [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: You can install in your Chicago office or wherever you please a device known as a 'call extender' to do what you want. Connect an incoming phone line to its front end, and an outgoing line to its other side. Now, when you call into the device, it goes off hook and gives you the dial tone from the other side. Of course, you get stuck with paying for two phone calls; one to the device and the one out from the device. It might help if you passcode it, to prevent everyone else who discovers this from abusing it for their own purposes. Generally call extenders (also known as WATS extenders) are only practical if they are located in the same local calling area as yourself. That is, do you want to pay for two phone calls instead of one? When used as WATS extenders, they used to make sense for people away from the office who wanted to make long distance calls at the cheaper rate they got in the office via WATS than the rate they would pay from a payphone. If you absolutely must have the dialtone of a distant community for your call rather than the existing long distance network to get where you want, something like this would work. If you require only access to one single number in the distant community, but it is only reachable via local dialtone, then you can also have a number at that end permanently left on call forwarding to wherever it is you want. You can get this from the telco in the distant community or by arrangement with some associate in the desired place. This of course restricts your options to just the one number; if you want the flexibility of calling several places in that community, then use the call extender described above. You can also get what telco calls 'foreign exchange service' where dial tone from the desired community is brought directly to you over leased wires via your local telco. The cost on this is horrendous; they charge by the mile for the connection and it is very rare these days that FX service makes any sense at all with long distance rates as cheap as they are. FX simply gives you phone service, i.e. dialtone, from the telco and community of your choice rather than the telco in the community where you are located. This all seems to have come up because a vendor you were dealing with (in this case, your own employer -- how embarassing!) had no provision for serving customers who were not in the right place at the right time apparently; and that is a shame. It should be the job of the vendor to notify his other offices of customer needs and requirements and not your obligation to dance around like this trying to get phone calls through in obscure ways at considerable expense to yourself. 800 numbers which are restricted by locality are rather rare these days. It used to be a big thing to get your 800 IN-WATS number 'banded' for what areas you wanted to receive calls and did not want them. Now most 800 numbers can be reached from anywhere, and if a vendor chooses to use time-of-day and/ or location routing on his 800 line, he also needs to be responsible for getting customers correctly routed who wind up at the wrong center for whatever reason. PAT] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jun 95 15:30:05 EDT From: John Amenyo Subject: ATM Over T3: RFI Has anyone done any work (or even speculated) on carrying ATM over n x T3 (n > 1), where the presence of the multiple T3 circuits is "visible" at or above the ATM level? What about ATM over n x T1 (n > 1)? Could you please email me (jta@ans.net), even if you reply to the list. Thanks. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jun 95 17:17 EST From: Ben Heckscher <0003094996@mcimail.com> Subject: From a Byte to Yottabyte Patrick, Here's an interesting chart for your readers. Source: http://www.ccsf.caltech.edu/~roy/dataquan/ Data Powers of Ten The following list is a collection of estimates of the quantities of data contained by the various media. Each is rounded to be a power of 10 times 1, 2 or 5. Most of the links are to small images. Suggestions and contributions are welcomed, especially picture files or pointers to pictures, and disagreements are accepted at roy@caltech.edu. The numbers quoted are approximate. In fact a kilobyte is 1024 bytes not 1000 bytes but this fact does not keep me awake at night. The etymology of these words used for very large numbers is explained here. Bytes (8 bits) 0.1 bytes : A binary decision 1 byte : A single character 10 bytes : A single word 100 bytes : A telegram OR A punched card Kilobyte (1000 bytes) 1 Kilobyte : A very short story 2 Kilobytes : A Typewritten page 10 Kilobytes : An encyclopedic page OR A deck of punched cards 50 Kilobytes : A compressed document image page 100 Kilobytes : A low-resolution photograph 200 Kilobytes : A box of punched cards 500 Kilobytes : A very heavy box of punched cards Megabyte (1 000 000 bytes) 1 Megabyte : A small novel OR A 3.5 inch floppy disk 2 Megabytes : A high resolution photograph 5 Megabytes : The complete works of Shakespeare OR 30 seconds of TV-quality video 10 Megabytes : A minute of high-fidelity sound OR A digital chest X-ray 20 Megabytes : A box of floppy disks 50 Megabytes : A digital mammogram 100 Megabytes : 1 meter of shelved books OR A two-volume encyclopedic book 200 Megabytes : A reel of 9-track tape OR An IBM 3480 cartridge tape 500 Megabytes : A CD-ROM OR The hard disk of a PC Gigabyte (1 000 000 000 bytes) 1 Gigabyte : A pickup truck filled with paper OR A symphony in high-fidelity sound OR A movie at TV quality 2 Gigabytes : 20 meters of shelved books OR A stack of 9-track tapes 5 Gigabytes : An 8mm Exabyte tape 10 Gigabytes : 20 Gigabytes : A good collection of the works of Beethoven OR 5 Exabyte tapes OR A VHS tape used for digital data 50 Gigabytes : A floor of books OR Hundreds of 9-track tapes 100 Gigabytes : A floor of academic journals OR A large ID-1 digital tape 200 Gigabytes : 50 Exabyte tapes Terabyte (1 000 000 000 000 bytes) 1 Terabyte : An automated tape robot OR All the X-ray films in a large technological hospital OR 50,000 trees made into paper and printed OR Daily rate of EOS data (1998) 2 Terabytes : An academic research library OR A cabinet full of Exabyte tapes 10 Terabytes : The printed collection of the US Library of Congress 50 Terabytes : The contents of a large Mass Storage System Petabyte (1 000 000 000 000 000 bytes) 1 Petabyte : 3 years of EOS data (2001) 2 Petabytes : All US academic research libraries 200 Petabytes : All printed material 500 Petabytes : All online data by the year 2000 Exabyte (1 000 000 000 000 000 000 bytes) 5 Exabytes : All words ever spoken by human beings. Zettabyte (1 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 bytes) Yottabyte (1 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 bytes) ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #284 ****************************** Received: from delta.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa29273; 16 Jun 95 5:30 EDT Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA13031 for telecomlist-outbound; Thu, 15 Jun 1995 21:59:23 -0500 Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA13023; Thu, 15 Jun 1995 21:59:20 -0500 Date: Thu, 15 Jun 1995 21:59:20 -0500 From: TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson) Message-Id: <199506160259.VAA13023@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #285 TELECOM Digest Thu, 15 Jun 95 21:59:00 CDT Volume 15 : Issue 285 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Telecom Decency Act Passes Senate 84-16 (TELECOM Digest Editor) Re: Will Cable Companies Dominate Internet Access Market? (John Higdon) Re: Will Cable Companies Dominate Internet Access Market? 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This is also known as the 'Exon Bill' after its author, Sentator Exon. Now it goes to the House of Representatives for debate and vote. I've an idea that it will also get passed in the House, then go to President Clinton for signature, and at each step of the way we will be bombarded with messages asking us to email/phone the appropriate people. Eventually President Clinton will sign it into law -- after receiving a huge volume of email in protest -- and then the ACLU and others will file legal challenges to it with the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court will sit on it for awhile, and finally announce that the law is constitutional. And that, as they say, will be that. You must know that if this passes the House of Representatives, President Clinton *won't dare* veto it. He is in enough hot water as it is with Whitewater, and if he and Hillary have not been indicted by the time the next election comes around (rumor has it she already has been indicted), he is going to need to kiss and makeup with all the various Christian Coalition people, the Contract With America people and the rest of them. He changes directions the same way the blowing wind changes directions, and he owes *those people* a lot if he does not want to get put out of office next year. So once Exon/Decency passes the House, it'll be all over except for the signing of the bill (count on it!) and the usual court challenges, etc. (count on those also!). I guess we will learn to live with it. PAT ------------------------------ Organization: Green Hills and Cows Date: Tue, 13 Jun 1995 21:25:06 -0700 From: John Higdon Subject: Re: Will Cable Companies Dominate Internet Access Market? Michael Wilshire writes: > My question is this. The current Internet service providers' business > is based on having open access to the telephone infrastructure -- [...] > So what happens to the internet service providers once cable modems > take off -- and customers start migrating to the cable companies? I believe you are asking the wrong question. What happens when EVERY common carrier begins offering Internet connectivity? It was recently revealed that Nynex, Bell Atlantic, and Pacific Telesis are laying plans to bundle 64Kbps Internet service as part and parcel of ISDN. In other words, if you have a telco ISDN line, you will be able to connect to the Internet as easily and cheaply as calling the Time Lady. This offering is projected to start up within eighteen months. You may have noticed that the big ISPs: Netcom, PSI, and the like have stopped providing part-time SL/IP connections. This would be the very product that would be targeted by the telcos and the cable companies, and there is no way on Gawd's Green Earth that ANY of them could compete with a common carrier such as an LEC or a cable TV company. The smaller companies will probably be hurt big time by this, as most of them do a large part-time SL/IP business. There is another issue that has not been addressed. With a part-time Internet connection, one still needs a mail drop and DNS (if he even has a static address or addresses). Given the RBOCs marvellous history of attention to fine detail in non-telecom enhanced services, there could be a gaping hole in their plans to offer part-time Internet services. (Leaving the connection up full-time could be expensive. Pacific Bell charges for local usage during business hours, even on residential ISDN. People needing full-time Internet services will still need an ISP that provides dedicated access through leased lines.) Remember, "content is the key". Carriers such as the RBOCs realize that the most profitability in the future will come from being the provider of the "program" rather than just the transport agent. ISPs have demonstrated demand and marketability of the Internet. It would only be expected to have the RBOCs say, "Thanks, guys. Now if you would just kindly step out of the way so we can take over your business, we would be most appreciative." In this case, it would appear that the cable TV companies have a shot at this market as well. > I would be very interested in any views on this topic -- particularly if > you believe another outcome is possible. The days of small ISPs are numbered. John Higdon | P.O. Box 7648 | +1 408 264 4115 | FAX: john@ati.com | San Jose, CA 95150 | +1 500 FOR-A-MOO | +1 408 264 4407 | http://www.ati.com/ati | ------------------------------ From: joel@civ.net (Joel Upchurch) Subject: Re: Will Cable Companies Dominate Internet Access Market? Date: Wed, 14 Jun 95 05:06:41 GMT Organization: Civilization In article , Michael Wilshire wrote: > Given the large number of cable companies who are reported to be > trialling cable modem technology, I wondered whether other Internet > Service Providers can be viable in the long term. These modems are > reported to offer speeds of between 500kbps to 10Mbps, which is > clearly well beyond that avaiable down an ordinary copper wire, and > would enable all sorts of high bandwidth video applications. When they talk about running 10Mbps ethernet over regular cable TV, my first thought is have they looked at the condition of a lot of the cable in this country. My second thought is how many customers are going to be sharing each loop. 10Mbps is fast, but not if I'm sharing it with 1000 people. My third thought is that they're going to need a lot more technical sophiscation in their local service. > My question is this. The current Internet service providers' business > is based on having open access to the telephone infrastructure -- > anybody can dial in to their points of presence via the telephone > network for the cost of a local or national call. The cable > companies, however, will have little incentive to open up their > networks to allow third party access, unless they are forced to do so by > regulation -- and can furthermore offer a superior service. So what > happens to the internet service providers once cable modems take off -- > and customers start migrating to the cable companies? I have to regard having a lot of little ma and pa internet access providers as a temporary aberration of the market. There will be a lot of consolidation down the road, but that might be five years or so away. Right now a lot of the little guys are offering more value for the money. With my local IAP I get unlimited 14.4 PPP for $15 a month. Also keep in mind that a lot of places you can call up the phone company and have a 128kb ISDN link put into your home. And you aren't sharing that with anybody. ISDN is already good enough for a lot of things and it will get better. Most of the local access will move to ISDN eventually. There will be a big shakeout and most of the business will belong to a few big nationwide providers. If I had to bet, I'd bet that the cable companies are going to standing around and figuring what to do, while the Direct Broadcast Satellite, the wireless cable and the phone companies steal their business out from under them. Joel Upchurch @ Upchurch Computer Consulting joel@civ.net 718 Galsworthy Ave. Orlando, FL 32809-6429 phone (407) 859-0982 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 13:50:41 EST From: Rob Slade Subject: Book Review: "World Wide Web Unleashed" by December/Randall BKWWWUNL.RVW 950427 "The World Wide Web Unleashed", December/Randall, 1994, 0-672-30617-4, U$35.00/C$47.95 %A John December decemj@rpi.edu %A Neil Randall nrandall@hookup.net %A boutell@netcom.com aa293@detroit.freenet.org lemay@netcom.com %A clpascal@cantor.math.uwaterloo.ca drwool@well.com %C 201 W. 103rd Street, Indianapolis, IN 46290 %D 1994 %G 0-672-30617-4 %I SAMS Publishing %O U$35.00/C$47.95 800-858-7674 75141.2102@compuserve.com %P 1058 %S ... Unleashed %T "The World Wide Web Unleashed" This is the most complete work on the World Wide Web that I have seen to date. It definitely contains more information than other works on the topic. Be aware, however, that the content quality is not consistent throughout. Parts one and two are the usual introduction both to the Internet, and to Web browsers. Coverage of browsers is broader than most (although not as exhaustive as, say, "The Complete Idiot's Guide to the World Wide Web" (cf BKCIGWWW.RVW)). The discussion of different programs has, though, little analysis. Mosaic is presented as "not the only" browser, but its weaknesses in handling email and forms are not mentioned. Part three gives some very insightful tips on W3 concepts, operation and use. Searching techniques and tools are only part of the scope of what should be required reading for serious Web users. Part four is the obligatory list of Web sites, complete with page-filling screen shots from each. The material on education, science, communications and government brings up a lot of new content. Part five, on Web design and creation, may be considered overlong for those wanting to plan a simple W3 server. The "case study" indicates that a project of larger scope is envisioned, and, from that perspective, there is a lot of valuable material here that you will not find elsewhere. Part six, on future trends, is disappointing. Two chapters touch on security and its importance to commercial use of the net. Neither addresses the inherent security loopholes of the Web, nor the difficulty imposed by the fact of two competing encryption technologies. (Nor, indeed, the use of technologies in a "World Wide" system where one country refuses to let secure systems be exported, while others simply refuse to allow their citizens encryption at all.) Certainly quite comprehensive, and extremely valuable in places, there are still some holes to be plugged, and repetitive sections that should be reduced. copyright Robert M. Slade, 1995 BKWWWUNL.RVW 950427. Distribution permitted in TELECOM Digest and associated publications. Rob Slade's book reviews are a regular feature in the Digest. ROBERTS@decus.ca, RSlade@sfu.ca, Rob Slade at 1:153/733 RSlade@cyberstore.ca If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate Author "Robert Slade's Guide to Computer Viruses" 0-387-94311-0/3-540-94311-0 ------------------------------ From: dreuben@interpage.net (Doug Reuben) Subject: CO/Boston New Hampshire Billing Errors Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 17:09:26 EDT After reviewing my most recent CO/Boston bill, I noted an odd problem. In April, I placed a one-minute call in the SID 01485 system of New Hampshire. This system is a "partnership" system between both Cell One/Boston and Cell One/VT (Atlantic Cellular.) To the best of my knowledge, it is the only system in the country which is jointly operated by two carriers on each of their respective switches. Initially, roaming was crazy: Customers who belonged to the 01485 partnership service paid different rates depending on who's tower they were connected to. Thus, a 01485 system customer who was billed from CO/Boston, would receive one rate (lower) for use of Boston towers, and another (higher) rate for use of CO/VT towers! This was quickly remedied for all 01485 customers, and they presently enjoy a unified rate throughout their service area in NH. However, until about a year ago, roamers were still faced with the question (or impossibility) of knowing when they were on a CO/Boston tower and when they were on a CO/VT tower. If they were on a CO/Boston tower, they paid "New England Network" rates (.44 peak, .29 off-peak.) If they were on a CO/VT tower, they would pay $3 per day, .99 per minute, and CO/Boston's (then $2) and now $4 *outrageous* "Roamer Administration Fee", which is nothing less than a pathetically transparent attempt to gain as much revenue out of their higher-volume customers as they can. After I (and doubtless others) complained that this was inherrently unfair, ie, we had no idea of knowing when a call came in or when placing an outbound call what rate I would be paying, CO/Boston reduced rates in the CO/VT section of the New Hampshire 01485 (ONLY) system, and now the rates reflect New England Network prices in all of SID 01485. (But be careful not to hit a CO/VT 00313 tower, which covers the rest of western NH, VT, northern MA, and eastern upstate NY. If you do, as a Boston customer, you'll be hit with $3.00 per day, $4.00 roamer admin, and $.99 per minute fees for a 1 minute call! [Hey Southwestern Bell, you want to tell me how come we pay *EIGHT DOLLARS* for a one minute call on SID 00313 in VT when the SAME call on the SAME switch on the SAME system, which happens to be on a SID 01485 tower costs only 29 cents? I'd love to hear the explanation for this (rest assured, they don't have one other than greed...)] However, on my most recent bill, a two minute call in the New Hampshire 01485 SID resulted in the full roam charge "barrage", that is, $3.00 day and $4.00 roamer admin fee. The actual roaming rates for the call were New England Network, but the billing system for some reason billed the call with the full $7.00 roamer surcharge. (Note that the $4 is per month, ie, if you roamed elsewhere outside the NE Network, even in another SWBell Market, you will pay that per month, but only once for any given month.) If you note this $7 roaming charge on your bill, and you haven't roamed outside of the New England Network (which includes New York (00025), CT (00119), the 00119 sections of CT but NOT Franklin County (now owned by CO/VT, 00313), Rhode Island (00119), NH 00345, NH 01485, and I believe Vanguard/ME 00499 (or is it the 00501 system?), then you should refuse to pay BOTH the $3 daily charge, and the $4 roamer admin surcharge. DO NOT let them tell you that the $4 charge is for roaming "somewhere else", and DO point out to them that you have not been "somewhere else". To their credit, CO/Boston customer service is quite friendly and polite, but, unfortunately, they seem to use this "amiability" to persuade unaware customers that the roamer admin $4 charge should stay, because "you must have roamed somewhere else". DEMAND (politely) to know where and when. CO/Boston simply loves to nickel and dime it's customers -- from charging airtime for voicemail (so much so that they created a system so landline callers will also have to pay airtime to deposit messages in a cellular mailbox through the voicemail port instead of dialing the cellphone direct), to charging $1 per bill for a "call detail" -- a decreasingly rare billing item in the cellular industry today, to charging roamer prices anywhere outside it's nearby coverage area, and of course the $4 roamer administration fee. These petty policies are bad enough without allowing them to get away with billing these charges for calls which do NOT warrant them. Check your bills! Note that NYNEX, for all the flakiness of their utterly comical call delivery network, provides similarly priced local service (no free airtime as part of a regular, ongoing service plan, though), does not charge you a local access fee for local calls, and does not try to play games and insult the intelligence of its customers by levying what appears to be a relentless series of additional charges. When I think about CO/Boston's policies in this regard, I'm reminded of (and pardon the digression) one of the Warner Bros. "Looney Tunes" cartoons, where Porky, after a long night's drive, stops by a very modern looking hotel run by Daffy. Porky is very pleased to find that all he has to pay is one dime (10 cents) for a night's stay. After Porky goes to bed, Daffy releases a mouse into the room which noisily chews on celery and wakes Porky up. Porky complains, and Daffy immediately appears with a cat, who will chase away the mouse, for a mere $5 charge. Needless to say, the cat then creates a problem, and Daffy brings a dog (for $10), then a lion, an elephant, etc., all at substantially higher charges. Somehow, I feel like Porky every time I get my Cell One/Boston bill! :(. Someone at SWBMS must have been pretty dumb as a kid and never realized that the cartoon was a JOKE, and not a model of a way to do business (if you want to keep your customers). They got me with the free airtime (which they've raised rates for anyhow), and now they do whatever else they can get away with to make even more money. Prototypical greed, plain and simple. It's too bad McCaw took over Nextel. Eventually, they or some other similar carrier would bury petty, miserly dinosaurs like CO/Boston, which is rapidly approaching runner-up position to by far the worst carriers in the nation: Los Angeles Cellular and PacTel/LA (yeah, yeah, "Airtouch" ... whatever ...). Doug Reuben * dreuben@interpage.net * +1 (203) 499 - 5221 Interpage Network Services -- http://www.interpage.net, telnet interpage.net E-Mail Alpha/Numeric Paging, Voice & Fax Svcs, News, and "Follow Me" Weather ------------------------------ Subject: "Information Superhighway" - End of Local Loop Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 14:32:19 -0700 From: David G. Cantor PacBell is introducing its "information super-highway". In my area, they expect it to be installed by the end of 1995 and they expect to complete the installation for their part of California by 2010. In a "dog and pony" presentation, PacBell stated that it will consist of a fiber-optic link from the switch to a "box" serving 480 residences. Coaxial cable will leave the box, in a star network to individual homes. A small interface unit will be mounted at each home. This is a completely two-way network. This system will, among other things, replace the local line loop. They do not expect much maintenance at the "box". In particular the constant search for available pairs for new services will end. Extra lines will be configured by software. In addition to POTS, PacBell plans to provide both video service and computer communications. David G. Cantor Center for Communications Research dgc@ccrwest.org 4320 Westerra Court San Diego, CA 92121 ------------------------------ From: reynolds@ee.vill.edu Subject: Design Project: Telephone Cost Meter Date: 14 Jun 1995 05:00:19 -0400 Organization: Villanova University Greetings, all ... In the fall I'll be building a telephone cost meter as a design project for a Bachelor's degree in Electrical Engineering. Basically, the device will accumulate the charges for long a distance phone call and continually display the current cost while you're talking. Since I have some extra time over this summer, I'd like to get started early. First and foremost, I need some way to estimate the per-minute cost of a long distance phone call. With all the different calling plans available, this could be a major headache. I contacted AT&T, and someone was supposed to "get back to me" -- that was three months ago. Next on my list is MCI ... I don't expect the cost algorithm to be exact, but I would like the projected cost to be somewhat close (+- 10-20%) of the actual cost. My goal is to have the most popular calling plans programmed in, and have the user configure the telephone meter by selecting the plan/company they use. In addition, I'd be curious as to what kind of "information" is available through the telephone wires, if any. For example, would the user need to program the area code where the call is being placed from, or is that somehow available from the telephone line itself(ala caller id)? The next order of business is the DTMF decoder. Granted, there are many different brands available, but I can't seem to find a single one. I have electronic catalogs from Mouser and DigiKey, but under semi-conductors and IC's they have pages and pages of numbers, yet none seem to correspond to the numbers I'm looking for. Using catalogs (as opposed to textbooks) is new to me, and I appreciate any and all the assistance I can get. :-) I'm also looking for other cost meter devices which are already on the market. I've heard some rumors, but haven't been able to find anything. Just curious as to how they operate, and what people are paying for them. So, in conclusion ... If you're at all familiar with how LD billing works, or know alot about phone technology in general, or feel you have some worthwhile suggestions -- please send me some e-mail! :-) Oh, and BTW ... does anyone know if Stephen Bigelow, the author of "Understanding Telephone Electronics" has an e-mail address? Thanks in advance. Jim ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #285 ****************************** Received: from delta.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa00254; 16 Jun 95 7:12 EDT Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA14112 for telecomlist-outbound; Thu, 15 Jun 1995 23:22:22 -0500 Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA14104; Thu, 15 Jun 1995 23:22:19 -0500 Date: Thu, 15 Jun 1995 23:22:19 -0500 From: TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson) Message-Id: <199506160422.XAA14104@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #286 TELECOM Digest Thu, 15 Jun 95 23:22:00 CDT Volume 15 : Issue 286 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Re: MCI's Success in Business (Lynn Betts) Re: MCI's Success in Business (Michael Henry) Re: Question: Two Phone Lines on Three Wires; is it Possible? (S. Satchell) Re: Question: Two Phone Lines on Three Wires; is it Possible? (tkc@ins.net) Re: Will Cable Companies Dominate Internet Access Market? 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Today, Barnes & >> Noble/Bookstop, and MCI, look like the bluest of blue-chip investments. >> Then, they looked like the bleeding-edge of high flyers. Milken did that. > Specifics please? To my knowledge, Amway is responsible for MCI's success. > (They were involved in marketing MCI for a long time. Maybe still are.) Read the article again, John. The specifics are right there. Due credit should be given Amway for marketing MCI services to its constituency (and, yes, they still do), but I know of no one in the investment community or telecommunications industry who considers Amway's contributions as "responsible for MCI's success." The Drexel/Milken junk bond sale literally saved MCI's neck at a time when conventional lending channels were closed to them. Sales volume didn't matter; they needed a capital infusion. Most consider that infusion to have been pivotal in MCI's continued existence (i.e., their salvation). "Twelve years ago, they had a cash shortage with billions of dollars of capital expenditures to make. They had a clear understanding of what their business was. We supplied them with billions of dollars of capital..." This, from Gilder's article, is quoting Milken. Yet I know of no one in either the investment or telecommunications industry who disputes this description, as far as it goes. (Effect on the fiber industry is further described and important for other reasons, but not relevant to the benefit the capital provided to MCI.) In saying this, to use MCI as an example of a positive derivative of Mr. Milken's work, which it indisputably is, should lend no moral weight (either good or bad) to anyone's opinion of the man on a personal level, nor any legal weight to whether he broke the law. He was not convicted of recognizing great potential and raising capital for it (regardless of how that money was ultimately used by company management), he was convicted of violating certain specific laws in the process of doing that (the end not justifying the means). Most people are emotionally mixing the issues. Perhaps they failed to note Gilder's very manner of pointing out the irony -- in the way he started the description of the "evil Milken" and the way he ends it. Not to speak for Mr. M., but we need to get a little humility instead of righteous indignation: How many of us have never/would never "cut any corners" when we see something we believe has tremendous potential for so many people, but needs a boost to make it a reality? Lynn Betts 4574792@mcimail.com [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Regards Amway/MCI, it is quite interesting to me how things can get twisted around the more they get discussed. I've heard a couple times in the past that Amway's assistance to MCI was more than just the 'usual relationship between sales rep and company'. The way it was explained to me, MCI was 'really very, very pleased with the performance and bottom line as a result of Amway's efforts'. In other words, its not that Amway 'saved' MCI, but that Amway was -- ummm -- let's say well ahead of whoever is in third place on MCI's list of commission agents. It is not that MCI couldn't have made it without Amway; just that Amway made them a tidy little bundle of cash and continues to do so. There is still plenty of work for the other sales reps at MCI; Amway just gives the icing to the cake, or at least they used to. Would that be a fair assessment? PAT] ------------------------------ From: mhenry@uclink2.berkeley.edu (Michael Henry) Subject: Re: MCI's Success in Business Date: Thu, 15 Jun 1995 14:49:12 GMT Organization: UC Berkeley John_David_Galt@cup.portal.com wrote: > Specifics please? To my knowledge, Amway is responsible for MCI's success. > (They were involved in marketing MCI for a long time. Maybe still are.) Oh Barf! Amway hacks will have you believing they've saved the world just because they live here. MCI agreed to provide discounts to Amway resellers, and the next thing you know, Amway saved their business? What does MCI need with all of their salespeople then? With pros like Amway, it should've sold itself right past AT&T in no time. Sorry ... I'm just particularly disgusted by poor information. If we do not succeed, then we face the risk of failure. D. Quayle Michael Henry Sr Analyst,Telecommunications University of California, Berkeley 510-643-8353 [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: See my note above. Perhaps JDG was a bit 'over-ethusiastic' in describing the Amway/MCI thing, but I've been told it is nothing to mock or ignore; that they have a very cozy and comfortable working arrangement with lots of money for all concerned. And that's the bottom line, isn't it? PAT] ------------------------------ From: ssatchell@BIX.com (ssatchell on BIX) Subject: Re: Question: Two Phone Lines on Three Wires; is it Possible? Date: 16 Jun 95 01:48:55 GMT Organization: Delphi Internet Services Corporation ceb@netcom.com (Ch. Buckley) writes: > My question is, is it possible to get GTE to run a second line down > the yellow, using one of the previous wires as a common return? Is > there something special I need to do to get them to do this? How does > one determine which is the common return? I spoke to their customer > service reps about this, but it seems that GTE is sitll hiring people > who cannot even effectively put people on hold while they ask up the > chain of command something they don't know (I was cut off), so I tend > to a priori distrust the answer I might get from them. > Add to that that they're trying to aggressively sell inside wiring > service, whereby they run the wire from the demark point to "a new > jack". I wouldn't mind paying the extra money so much, it's just that > the quality of the wiring I tend to get from them is ugly and bad - > wires in plain site, poorly tied down, exposed to elements, and/or > fatigue failure through repeated motion, ignoring previous conduit and > wire passageway infrastructure, etc. > The second line would be used for data transmission, so this may mean > that FDM multiplexing is not an option. The equipment for that is not > usually readily available for customer-side wiring, anyway. Please > reply also by e-mail, if you would. You want to run data communications over *unbalanced* telephone cabling? First, the line quality would be such that you would be lucky to get a 212A modem to work reliably, because the crosstalk and noise would be a huge component. The huge longitudinal imbalance would kill any attempt to use echo-cancelling modes of operation at any speed. We are talking transmission lines, designed to run in pairs with the only ground being at the central office. Frankly, installing your own wiring isn't that big a job. There are many sources for three-pair wire which can do the job just swell, and you sound like you are already aware of the pitfalls of inside wiring. The only thing that you would need to do that's out of the ordinary is to buy a T-25 staplegun, the one with the round nose and the smaller staples. The T-50 is just too large and shoots square staples instead of the T-25's round ones. Further, try to avoid daisy-chain runs; use separate home runs and bring them to a terminal block -- and then take a single run out to the demark points. Even better, if you can stand the cost, use 66M blocks and, in the case of your data line, only put in bridge clips for the jacks you use. This limits the effect of the stubs. ------------------------------ From: tkc@netins.net (TKC) Subject: Re: Question: Two Phone Lines on Three Wires; is it Possible? Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 15:16:19 GMT Organization: INS Information Services, Des Moines, Iowa, USA ceb@netcom.com (Ch. Buckley) wrote: > I was looking in to adding a second line to a house build in the > early 1960's in GTE-land in NC. The house is wired throughout with > three-wire (not three-pair) cable, i. e. red-green-yellow. Line > number one uses red and green. > My question is, is it possible to get GTE to run a second line down The answer is No but Maybe Yes.... They could run what is called "subscriber line carrier"; that's running two lines down one wire. They put a little box in your back room that is self powered off the line and it will divide the two signals ... You will still have to rewire your house with two pair wire or more. [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I've heard -- and people have written here -- that those things, sometimes called 'slick' or SLC are just horrendous when it comes to handling data. Just awful. PAT] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jun 1995 04:54:05 -0500 From: mikem@i-link.net (Mike McKinney) Subject: Re: Will Cable Companies Dominate Internet Access Market? First off let me say that being a Telco employee does not mean I'm knocking Cable for the benefit of my company. These are purely practical observations. IMHO, cable companies will only dominate those services where speed and price are more important than reliability. My opinion is based on the fact that cable television's plant, at least in Austin, TX, has never been built as if it were a critacal service. And it's still not being built to the same standards as telephone plant. The most obvious sign of this is in the fiber optic cable they are currently installing around the city. We (Southwestern Bell Telephone) hardly ever place fiber aerially, but the cable company is doing it almost exclusively. What's more, the cable they are using appears to be a single sheath design, about .5 inch diameter. In my younger days I made my living as an outside repairman: trees, squirrels, kids with pellet rifles, etc. are going to tear this stuff up. In the one case I have seen of aerial fiber placed by us, the cable on the pole was nearly two inches in diameter. Under a U-gaurd coming down the pole to a buried conduit, the outer sheathes were removed, leaving an inner cable the same size as what the cable company was putting up on the poles! I have a question for the group in general: cable is not my career so perhaps someone can tell me HOW cable is going to deliver all the wonderous things they promise. I know that cable has a HUGE bandwidth, but it's just huge, not infinite, and their facilities are essentially single runs feeding large geographical areas. I do know quite a bit about frequency and digital multiplexing, but I would really be interested if someone could enlighten me or point me towards a good reference source on the subject. One last question I have is how will security be addressed? If, as I believe, cable plant is essentially a single route all the way to the house, how can privacy of information be accomplished? I'm sure much can be done with digital encoding, but any coding can be broken and I'd personally rather not have my communications accessable from any house in the area. Again, any info would be appreciated. Mike McKinney SW Bell Austin, TX mikem@i-link.net ------------------------------ From: tholome@dialup.francenet.fr (Eric Tholome) Subject: Re: Phone Monopolies in Europe Date: Thu, 15 Jun 1995 23:13:02 +0200 In article , bjote@cs.tu-berlin.de (Tor-Einar Jarnbjo) wrote: > [...] And what would happen if Telenor, > which actually is obligated to do so, was left as the only company > serving the areas of Norway where noone or only a few people live, and > they loose a lot of income from the other parts, would Telenor then be > able to provide such cheap services? I don't think so, [...] The European Union has been pondering this point for quite some time. As far as I know, they now have to choose between the following two solutions to provide universal phone service: - require that the original monopolistic operator provides universal service. Other operators would have to pay access charges when accessing this network, to compensate for the cost of universal service; - create a common "solidarity" fund that all operators must contribute to, either financially, or by providing universal phone service. Eric Tholome 23, avenue du Centre tholome@dialup.francenet.fr 78180 Montigny le Bretonneux phone: +33 1 30 48 06 47 France fax: same number, call first! ------------------------------ From: tccheng@hkusua.hku.hk (Wilson Cheng) Subject: Re: Videoconferencing Experiences Organization: The University of Hong Kong Date: Thu, 15 Jun 1995 13:22:13 GMT EVAN ROSEN (erosen@ix.netcom.com) wrote: > I am interested in hearing about any experiences -- both good and > bad -- people have had with videoconferencing. The information is for > articles and presentations on videoconferencing. I'm particularly > interested in applications, i.e. ways people have used videoconferencing > to achieve results. Also, I'm interested in cultural issues like > feeling uncomfortable on camera. This request covers desktop, roll-about > and room systems. Post your thoughts here and/or mail them to > erosen@ix.netcom.com Application : - Big boss meeting. - Advertising, proposal with VCR, still picture display. - Textile industry, showing samples e.g. jeans, shirt ... color and texture. - Toys, model samples. - Cross country meeting. Common uncomfortable feeling : - Eye contact, the way the camera is positioned, the far end may feel the other end not looking at them while meeting. - Audio problem, even many system equipped with echo cancellor, echo occurance is common when the mic is being moved around by the boss. - Poor picture quality when running at low rate , e.g 128K , as some people expect the video quality will be the same as TV (Real time respond). The above are my experience with roll-about and room system. Just some thoughts, I hope it helps! Nick ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jun 95 09:32:38 EDT From: John R. Covert Subject: Re: Inbound Out-of-Home-Area Cellular Calls > Basically, most cellular systems will allow "Follow-Me Roaming" when > out of area. You dial *18 when you reach a new system (not a new cell > -- a new system) and that tells the cellular network "I'm here!". > Then, they can route calls to you. 1. That was "B" carriers only. "A" carriers used a system called "Roaming America" or "Nationlink" that was activated differently, and somewhat more automatically, but at differing levels depending on both your home and remote service provider. The code to activate it was *31. But most "A" carriers now participate in the "North American Cellular Network" which is fully automatic. 2. Follow-Me-Roaming (a service of GTE Data Services Corporation) has been replaced by Follow-Me-Roaming-Plus. This activates automatically when you enter a new area. Some, but not all, home carriers may want you to dial "*78" once to initially activate it; others will have it initially activated by default. Almost all "B" carriers now participate in Follow-Me-Roaming-Plus, and calls can be delivered automatically essentially everywhere in the U.S. and Canada without any need to dial anything. /john ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jun 1995 00:20:15 GMT From: Andrew C. Green Subject: Re: 911 From Cellphones in CA In Marty Brenneis writes: > I am seeking personal experiences both good and bad that involve using > cellular 911 for situations that were not the jurisdiction of the > Highway Patrol. (mail to droid@nbn.com) I am mainly interested in > California, but if you have an interesting tale from another state or > country please chime in. This morning's {Chicago Sun-Times} contains a short item on page 4 which is _extremely_ unrelated to the Highway Patrol, but which I'm reprinting here anyway, in its entirety: CALL FROM THE WILD Montain climber Dick Muchow broke his ankle at 12,700 feet on Lizard Head Peak in the Rockies. His partner did what any climber would do. He pulled out a cellular phone and dialed 911. A helicopter team was sent. [end quote] Too bad you can't get Enhanced 9-1-1 Name and Address readouts on a portable cellphone call; I'd love to see what address would display for a call like that... Andrew C. Green (312) 266-4431 Frame Advanced Product Services 441 W. Huron Internet: acg@frame.com Chicago, IL 60610-3498 FAX: (312) 266-4473 [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Those of you who read the Chicago papers may have noted in the past three days our brand new emergency communications center was turned on. It is being phased in over the next four months and by the end of 1995 all central offices in Chicago will be funneled in there. The pictures in the newspapers of the place were fantastic. Extremely futuristic workstations for the call takers combined with giant projection screens on the walls which show very elaborate street maps. These giant screens can also show television news reports of whatever the disturbance outside happens to be. Each 911 operator will have four different monitors, a couple of keyboards and the phone equipment. Individual lighting and climate controls at each position. Some of the terminals will show detailed diagrams of the inside of large buildings, detailed street maps, underground utility lines, more. The new building, on the near west side of Chicago is designed to withstand every kind of disaster. It will serve as a command center for police and city officials in the event of riots, natural disasters, etc. PAT] ------------------------------ From: ssatchell@BIX.com (ssatchell on BIX) Subject: Re: Prodigy Held Liable in Libel Case Caused by Subscriber Date: 15 Jun 95 17:24:09 GMT Organization: Delphi Internet Services Corporation co057@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Steven H. Lichter) writes: > Well I run a BBS and have had to remove subject matter including a now > ex-user who sent everyone on my system a rather filthy note. Does that > mean if someone finds a subject they don't like or claim to be libeless > I'll have legal problems? I hope you have insurance to cover that, I don't. > I think the laws have to be updated to cover electronic media, since > it is a lot different then print in that it appears at once unless the > group is moderated, and even with with this group I have seen that you have > gotten spammed. I check my system several times a day and the users and > other SysOps on the nets are pretty good, with the exception of one > system that seems to have been taken over by its users. I'm not a lawyer, but I've been following the Prodigy case as closely as I followed the Cubby/CompuServe case and, for what it's worth, here is my opinion. Prodigy is different from virtually every other service in that they make an attempt to perform "prior restraint" on postings, similar to the way that comp.dcom.telecom and other newsgroups are moderated in NetNews. In Prodigy's case, there are claims that they use software to identify "suspect" messages, and a human being has to "OK" those suspect messages before they can appear. Not all details are available right now, although anyone who can point to an electronic archive with the case transcript will get a hearty "thank you" from me. In the case of CompuServe, other information service providers with messaging services, and BBSes, the moderation is "after the fact", at least for the regular users. This means that a user, one vetted, can in fact post freely -- the system operator can yank messages from view only after they become public. This is akin to a cork bulletin board in which you can tack up your own messages. Prodigy is more like the cork bulletin board where you have to submit your message to the owner and *s/he* tacks it up. The Court held that Prodigy operates more like a newspaper or magazine, where agents of the owner (editors) decide whether to publish the item or not. That active selection is why Prodigy is liable for the statements of its subscribers. If there is a lawyer in the house: are there any useful cites of magazines and newspapers being sued for libel based on the publication of a letter to the editor? Stephen Satchell ------------------------------ From: djc@vnp.com (Dan Crimmins) Subject: Re: Now Four Local Players in Chicago Organization: VNP Software, Inc. Date: Fri, 16 Jun 1995 00:33:10 GMT Don't forget Teleport Communications Group, Chicago. Their slogan is "The Other Local Phone Company". I don't think they go after the residential market yet, but who knows ... Dan Crimmins VNP Software Chicago ------------------------------ From: vpmc@aol.com (VPMC) Subject: Re: T1 Data Transfer Rate Date: 16 Jun 1995 22:08:57 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Reply-To: vpmc@aol.com (VPMC) Nancy, Unless I misunderstood your question, T1 service operates at 1.544 mega (million) bits per second. Vinny C ------------------------------ From: kd4awq@iglou.com (Ed Ellers) Subject: Re: Phone Mail Jail Organization: IgLou Internet Services Date: Thu, 15 Jun 1995 02:53:19 GMT In article , turner7@pacsibm.org (Lee Winson) says: > First, a lot of customers still have rotary dials. Given voice > recognition technology, it should be a no-brainer to pick up dial > pulses (if they can decipher voice, they can decipher precisely timed > clicks). Won't work -- most switches will drop the call if you pulse-dial a digit higher than three or four after the last digit of the called number, because of the way they scan lines to tell when you've hung up. > Third, systems should try to use standardized key functions. * and # > should do the same thing. If you have recording or transfer options, > the keys should be uniform across systems. It would save so much time. Why should two keys do the same thing? I'd rather see everybody standardize on using # for enter (since it's to the right, where an enter key would be expected) and perhaps * for escape. ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #286 ****************************** Received: from delta.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa02833; 16 Jun 95 11:53 EDT Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id BAA15652 for telecomlist-outbound; Fri, 16 Jun 1995 01:40:18 -0500 Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id BAA15644; Fri, 16 Jun 1995 01:40:15 -0500 Date: Fri, 16 Jun 1995 01:40:15 -0500 From: TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson) Message-Id: <199506160640.BAA15644@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #287 TELECOM Digest Fri, 16 Jun 95 01:40:00 CDT Volume 15 : Issue 287 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Mexican Telecom Wiring (John Schmidt) International Dialing to Alternate Local Company (Timothy D. Hunt) Re: AT&T 'True(?) Messages' (Steve Cogorno) Dianatel EA24 and SS96 Wanted (Vance Shipley) Pre-Paid Phone Card Questions (Barry Caplan) Please, Help Me If You Can! (Yoshi Mizumo) Re: Phone Monopolies in Europe (Yves Blondeel) Re: Now Four Local Players in Chicago (Dave Bernardi) How Will Local Competition Infrastructure Be Done? (Eric Hunt) Re: Does Phone Company Record What Cell Call Placed From? (James Bellaire) Re: Does Phone Company Record What Cell Call Placed From? (John Murray) Re: Does Phone Company Record What Cell Call Placed From? (Ed Ellers) Re: Cellular Service in Hungary (Jalil Latiff) Re: Telecom Finland to Use DCS 1800 to Back up GSM (Sam Spens Clason) Re: EMI Issues With GSM (Sam Spens Clason) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of public service systems and networks including Compuserve and America On Line. 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Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jws@hpfcla.fc.hp.com (John Schmidt) Subject: Mexican telecom wiring Date: 15 Jun 1995 19:24:30 GMT Organization: Hewlett-Packard Fort Collins Site I'll be spending about a week in Mexico this summer, and will be taking a laptop/modem combination for connections from inside Mexico to destinations both inside and outside the country. I've a few questions: 1. How universal (if at all) is DTMF dialing, as opposed to pulse? 2. Can I expect to find RJ-11 jacks, wired the same as U.S. jacks, in businesses, hotels, etc? If not, is there any particular color code convention I should be aware of when hooking up my alligator clips? That is, can I expect the red/green pair to work? 3. Any differences in line voltages, ring voltages, etc. that would make life difficult for the modem or computer? 4. Are there any "standard" dialing conventions such as "9" for outside line, "1" before long distance numbers, etc.? 5. Any recommendations on calling cards/procedures for making long-distance calls within Mexico? (I plan to use AT&T USA Direct for calls back to the States, but I've no clue how to best handle billing for long-distance in-country calls.) Thanks for any help, John Schmidt jws@fc.hp.com ------------------------------ From: tim@fsg.com (Timothy D. Hunt) Subject: International Dialing to Alternate Local Company Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 16:54:27 GMT Organization: Fusion Systems Group, Inc. Reply-To: thunt@fsg.com We are using MFS Intelnet in New York as our local phone company. Recently a customer calling us from Sweden told us that he tried calling our main number and was getting a "number out of service" message. He finally got through by calling our old (NYNEX) number which we have forwarded to our new (MFS) number. I told MFS about this and their response was that it was a problem with the long distance carrier being used to call us and there was not much they could do. Somehow, I feel somebody needs to know to fix this. The question is who? Tim Hunt tim@fsg.com [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Well, you can't call NYNEX, that's for sure. You're not their customer any longer. (chortle!) Let me see if I understand: when you went to MFS you got a new number? I had heard that when you switched local companies it was supposed to be transparent; that is, you got to keep your existing number. In other words, just like portability with 800 numbers. So why did you give up your published, well-known and (presumably) desirable number with NYNEX to begin using a different number with MFS? Or isn't how I have described the way it works there? Or if you did keep your established number and part of the deal with MFS is that calls are being routed through it to the number(s) that MFS set up for you, then why are you publicizing or giving out those numbers used for call-forwarding purposes via your new local carrier? Second, why would any other telco, domestic or international, care what number was being called in New York? I can understand that if MFS has some 'new' exchanges in service that possibly other telcos around the globe have not yet updated their tables to include the new prefixes or exchanges, but otherwise I cannot imagine why they would care one way or the other. Try these experiments: 1. Use your MFS lines to dial your MFS number. Does the call go through? If you have more than one incoming line via MFS in a hunt group for example, attempt to dial into *each line* independently. Maybe calls hitting one of the back lines are not getting through because one of the back lines has a problem. Anyway, if yes, an MFS line can be used to call *all* the other incoming MFS lines, then proceed to #2. If not, then the fault would seem to be in the MFS equipment somewhere. 2. Now use a NYNEX line somewhere to dial your MFS number. Does the call go through? If yes, then proceed to #3. If the call to your MFS number does go through from MFS but does not go through when NYNEX is handling the call, then NYNEX is at fault. 3. Try using NYNEX lines to dial two, three or more incoming calls to your MFS lines *at the same time*. Then use NYNEX lines to try several calls at the same time to your NYNEX number. Any one or more of the calls get blocked or intercepted? 4. Have someone outside your area/areacode but sitll within NYNEX territory call your MFS number(s). Then have someone totally outside the territory, such as in Chicago or Denver try your MFS number then your NYNEX number. Know anyone else at some international point who can also try it? Throughout all the above, please note *who* is giving the intercept message, if any occur. Is it an MFS or NYNEX recording? If it is not a recording from either of those companies, then neither one is at fault. Is the 'not in service' recording coming from a local telco somewhere who is not even passing the call (because their tables say no such exchange/prefix exists in 212?) In 'normal' call forwarding from one line to another, you can dial either the original number or the number it is forwarding to directly. I am not sure in the new-fangled local competition schemes if you are *supposed* to be able to directly address the 'forwarded-to' number or not. In other words, the 'number' MFS assigned you may be only internal to their system and used by agreement with NYNEX, but not a 'true' telephone number for elsewhere. That's why it would be interesting to see if other long- distance callers around the USA and the world experience the same results as the Swedish people. Finally, there is the possibility that your Swedish customer dialed the wrong number. He transposed a couple digits (either because you gave him the number incorrectly) or he wrote it down wrong, etc. Now he won't admit it, or still does not realize that earlier he had it wrong. How about some additional specifics from you on this? PAT] ------------------------------ From: cogorno@netcom.com (Steve Cogorno) Subject: Re: AT&T 'True(?) Messages' Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 10:43:09 PDT Mark Cuccia said: > I have NEVER used #123 to leave a 'forwarding message'. If the > message did not get through, does AT&T still charge the caller? And No. There is no charge if the message is not delivered (or if the sender cancels the message before it is sent). > what about answering machines & voicemail on the receiving end - The > AT&T automated message forwarding would already start playing the > caller's prerecorded message while the called party's voicemail/answering- > machine was playing out ITS outgoing message and not yet in the record > mode for incomming calls. Machine-to-Machine does NOT always work as well > as Machine-to-Human or vice-versa, or Human-to-Human. The service actually works quite well with answering machines; I have never had any trouble with it. It waits through the outgoing messsage and waits for thre "record" tone. If you prefer, you can have a live operator introduce the message. You can also have the message delivered only to the person you specify (ie not an answering machine, and not to anyone else who might pickup the phone). It's interesting that your callers have trouble with this; I've never been given the 123 message unless I'm at a pay phone. BTW, you can call TrueMessages directly at 1-800-562-6275 to schedule messages, listen to replies, or cancel messages. Steve cogorno@netcom.com ------------------------------ From: Vance Shipley Date: Tue, 13 Jun 95 16:53:35 EDT Subject: Dianatel EA24 and SS96 Wanted Organization: XeniTec Consulting, Kitchener, Ontario, Canada Date: Thu, 15 Jun 1995 20:53:24 GMT I need a Dianatel EA24 ISDN PRI interface card and a SS96 switch ASAP. If anyone is sitting on some please give me a call. Vance Shipley Zenox Communications Corp. 200 Ronson Drive, Suite 612 Toronto, Ontario CANADA M9W 5Z9 Tel (416)241-7000 Fax (416)241-3030 vances@zenox.com ------------------------------ From: Barry Caplan Subject: Pre-Paid Phone Card Questions Date: 16 Jun 1995 00:10:18 GMT Organization: Aiki International Software Services Hello readers of the Digest, A friend just called and said he was interested in getting in the business of selling pre-paid phone cards via vending machine. I am not sure why, but I can't help feeling that something would be amiss. Apparently, long distance service providers large and small (small = resellers) will sell cards at say US 11 cents/minute, and you can then resell them at what the market will bear. I have a few questions about such an arrangement: 1) Are there some phone companies providing services that are, shall we say, of dubious value? Are some "here today/gone tommorrow"? 2) Do people really use these cards to save a few cents on calling card surcharges? 3) If the answer to #2 is yes, do they buy new cards when the old one is used up, or is it just a novelty? (I have been carrying a Sprint Five Minutes Free promotion card for a year now "in case of emergency". Come to think of it, it is about to expire this month, I better call someone!) This is important because the vending machines cost approximatly US $2500, so you have to sell a lot of cards to recoup that investment. 4) If people do make regular use of these cards, who are they? Are there some locations for the machines that have proved successful? What are some successful pricing strategies? 5) Do various phone companies restrict the use of the cards to or from particular areas, regions, or countries? 6) I would be interested in knowing from each of you why or why not you would buy such a card. 7) Is there anyplace I can go to get more solid information about this topic? I am too busy these days to promise to be able to read the Digest regularly. I would appreciate if you e-mail your responses to me as well as post them to the group. After a week or so, I can post a summary to the group. Thank you very much, Barry Aiki International Software Services 89 Longwood Avenue Brookline, MA 02146 USA barryc@i18n.com <----- note new address [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: To answer just a few of your questions, have you ever had to take a number and wait in line to buy one of those cards? I get around quite a bit to places where those cards are sold, and I have yet to ever see anyone in line ahead of me asking to buy one. I have waited in many lines for some non-related thing while the people in line ahead of me were purchasing vast quantities of Illinois State Lottery tickets, and in the places I frequent, the kind of people who purchase large amounts of lottery tickets are the same people who would be quite likely otherwise to use prepaid phone cards. If you were a reader of this Digest three years ago, you'll recall I assisted in the promotion of one such card (the 'Talk Ticket') with the Digest readership as my base of customers. It went nowhere fast. Any of you still around who bought those and tried them out? How about sharing some experiences here now a couple years later? And no, they don't restrict where you can call except possibly you can't use them for 900 numbers and it would be a waste of the card to use it for 800 numbers. Why should they care where you call since they have already been paid -- long ago in fact, by two earlier generations of wholesalers/distributors/door-to-door salespeople who are now eager to sell the card to you (and recoup their money) -- they have no potential fraud and/or collection problem. In fact, you wind up paying the telco more for giving them less headaches collection-wise. I liken prepaid phone cards to American Express money orders: AMEX makes a killing on those; in effect you loan Amex money they don't have to account for for a few days until its time to pay off someone. Would *you* like to have a float of a couple million dollars to play with on any given day? And the shame is, they charge you an administrative fee of a dollar or so on money orders; you pay them money on the money you loan them for a few days or a few weeks until someone else cashes it in. Any of you want to loan me a million dollars just for a day? I'll return it to you tomorrow *with interest*. See my point? PAT] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 17:02:50 +0300 From: y@minim.drug.com Subject: Please, Help Me If You Can! [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Will some one or more of you answer this next letter for me? Just respond direct to the writer. You can copy the response here if you think it of general interest. PAT] Dear Mr. Townson, I have brosed through telecom previously, but we are not set-up for news posting. Please excuse me for this direct e-mail. I am serving as a member for a commitee at Japanese PTT ministry. At this committee, we are about to write up the report, comparing the telecommunication cost between Japan and the US. As of now, DS-1 local hook-up (point to point at 0 km) costs us about $4,000 US per month !!! I have been trying to tell the ministry that it is crazy, but they say they do not have any foreign data on local hook-up, they cannot say anything in the report. Is it possible for you to point me to the sources of this information (price ranges for DS-1 local hookup, for example). Or, better yet, can you just tell me the cost ranges just off the top of your head ? Thanks in advance. Yoshi Mizuno, Pharm.D. e-mail: y@drug.COM Mizuno Pharmacies WWW: http://www.drug.COM/ 4-1-24 Yushima, Bunkyo-ku TEL : +81-3-5684-7722 Tokyo 113 JAPAN G3 FAX: +81-3-5684-7723 ------------------------------ From: Yves Blondeel Subject: Re: Phone Monopolies in Europe Date: 15 Jun 1995 18:52:21 GMT Organization: T-REGS Comment from Europe: Norway is quasi *obliged* to end the remaining Telenor monopolies: Norway is a party to the European Economic Area (EEA) Agreement. The general principle of the EEA Agreement is that all European Community (EC) directives and regulations concerning the internal market apply not only to the European Union Member States, but also to the EEA countries from the date of entry into force of the Agreement, i.e. from January 1, 1994 (with a six-month transition period for competition law). The implication is that the EC's telecommunications liberalisation directives became applicable in Norway on July 1, 1994. The "Services Directive" -90/388/EEC-, as amended by Directive 94/46/EEC applies to Norway today and will be amended again in 1995 or 1996 in order to oblige the EC countries to enable competitive provision of the voice telephony service and competition for the establishment and operation of telecommunications infrastructures from January 1, 1998 at the latest. New measures in the telecommunications sector (for example the forthcoming amendment to the "Services Directive") are considered for adoption by the so-called EEA Joint Committee on a directive-by-directive basis. According to the EEA Treaty, the process of adopting directives by the EEA requires ratification by the European Parliament as well as by the parliaments of the individual EEA Member States (such as Norway). As you can see, Norway would have to take pretty radical steps in order to escape from mandatory demonopolisation of its telecommunications sector. It could either refuse to ratify a particular directive (which would lead to high-profile court cases), or it could withdraw from the EEA. Yves Blondeel ------------------------------ From: Dave Bernardi Subject: Re: Now Four Local Players in Chicago Date: 15 Jun 1995 21:07:35 GMT Organization: Morgantown Energy Technology Center, US DOE > They'll be doing it, they say, by purchasing space and > resources in bulk through Ameritech for resale. It should > be an interesting summer. Is Ameritech required to sell resources to their competitors by law? Why would Ameritech "give away" business if this is not the case? [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Ameritech wants to be rid of the regulation which is keeping them out of long distance and other lucrative enterprises. They are willing to allow competition -- and even help the competition to some extent -- in exchange for the freedom they will gain. Anyway, they know that in real practice the competition will be on paper only for many years to come, if it materializes at all as any sort of threat (unlikely). PAT] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jun 1995 03:52:38 GMT From: Eric Hunt Subject: How Will Local Competition Infrastructure be Done? I've been very interested in the emergence of competition for our local phone business. The only question I've not seen answered is this: How will the infrastructure be managed? Who will control it? Will there be an exponential explosion in the number of overhead wires as each company installs their own? Will the current phone company remain "protector" of the infrastructure and simply resell capacity? Will the current phone company be forced to GIVE capacity to the incoming competitors, much like IPPs are going to get an almost free ride on the transmission facilities of the power companies? Thanks, Eric in Austin metrowerks Corp. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jun 1995 21:12:18 -0500 From: bellaire@tk.com (James E. Bellaire) Subject: Re: Does Phone Company Record What Cell Call Placed From? In TELECOM Digest #269 joel@civ.net (Joel Upchurch) asks: > I have a pretty basic question. When you place a call from a cellular > phone does the cellular company record which cell(s) actually handled > the call? I know they could if they wanted to, but do they? > In something like the Simpson case it might be interesting if it turned > out that his ex-wife's house was in a different cell from his house. The only use of cell phone tracking in the Simpson case was to find OJ during the ride in Al Cowlings bronco. The issue of a cell phone call originating from Nicole's house or OJ's is not relevant. > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: > To answer your question, yes I think sometimes they do keep a record of > the cells involved in a call when they have reason to need or want that > information. PAT] The use of a cell trace to find OJ was done in real time, not later as 'records' would infer. Any good telecom tech with the right computer could tell you which cell was serving a particular customer and signal strength (to estimate distance from the cell). Handoffs would be the key to tracking, unless you put people on the street with directional tracking devices. Of course ANY INFORMATION is subject to being recorded at some point, but the reason of WHY would have to be answered. Just my opinions. James E. Bellaire (JEB6) bellaire@tk.com Twin Kings Communications - Sturgis, MI ------------------------------ From: jxm@engin.umich.edu (John Murray) Subject: Re: Does Phone Company Record What Cell Call Placed From? Date: 15 Jun 1995 13:56:07 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor In article , Joel Upchurch wrote: > I have a pretty basic question. When you place a call from a cellular phone > does the cellular company record which cell(s) actually handled the call? I > know they could if they wanted to, but do they? There was a proposal some years ago in the Intelligent Transportation world to use the cellular phone location information as a way to determine feasible speeds along stretches of freeway. [Essentially, the reasoning system would infer "Phone X got from cell 1 to cell 2 in Y minutes, so therefore the feasible speed for that piece of the freeway network is at least Z mph".] I think that the system would work provided the phone was turned on, regardless of whether calls were made or not. John Murray Univ of Michigan ------------------------------ From: Ed Ellers Subject: Re: Does Phone Company Record What Cell Call Placed From? Date: Thu, 15 Jun 95 23:18:55 -0500 Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice) Joel Upchurch writes: > In something like the Simpson case it might be interesting if it turned out > that his ex-wife's house was in a different cell from his house. The problem there is that cell coverage overlaps to some extent (it has to in order to assure uninterrupted calls as you travel), and it's sometimes possible to hit different cell sites from points only a few feet apart. ------------------------------ From: Jalil Latiff Subject: Re: Cellular Service in Hungary Date: 16 Jun 1995 02:06:27 GMT Organization: Universal Telecom In article , George Levar writes: > I have some friends visiting the US from Hungary. They have commented > how inexpensive cellular hardware is here compared to Hungary. They > would like to buy a flip phone here and get service for it in Hungary. > Will this work?? Does Hungary have the same type of cellular system as > the US? If I recall correctly, Hungary uses NMT standard and if you could get a US phone to work in that system, quickly, go buy yourself a lottery ticket. ------------------------------ From: d92-sam@mumrik.nada.kth.se (Sam Spens Clason) Subject: Re: Telecom Finland to Use DCS 1800 to Back up GSM Date: 16 Jun 1995 04:45:16 GMT In Yves Blondeel writes: > d92-sam@sham69.nada.kth.se (Sam Spens Clason) wrote: >> There is an EC directive that says that 900 MHz should be >> reserved for GSM and that other analog networks should be >> "phased out" but that certain considerations should be made. > Presumably you are referring to Council Directive 87/372/EEC > of 25 June 1987 on the frequency bands to be reserved for the > coordinated introduction of public pan-European cellular > digital land-based mobile communications in the Community. Yes. > I am not aware of ANY European Union measure calling for the > "phasing out" of older analogue networks. The closest I have > seen is the "whereas" in this Directive which says "whereas on > the basis of present technological and market trends (*back in > 1987 I remind you*) it would appear realistic to envisage the > exclusive occupation of the 890-915 and 935-960 MHz frequency > bands by the pan-European system within 10 years of 1 January > 1991." Please tell me where you found the "phasing out" > statement. I didn't, that my translation of Post & Telestyrelsen's (Post & Telecom board) desicion of May 18. For those of you that speek Swedish I recommend you read it: http://www.et.se/elektronik(arkiv/9510/beslut.html. Maybe that is a poor translation, but that's what its about. > For information: there is also a Council Recommendation > 97/371/EEC of 25 June 1987 and a Council Resolution 90/C > 166/02 of 28 June 1990 which relate to GSM frequencies. Don't know much about that one I'm afraid. But I'm all ears. > *Sam's Comments on Sweden - very interesting* >> Most probably 1800 will eventually be used just as in >> Finland, but no decisions have yet been made. > I was under the impression that Telestyrelsen (the Swedish > regulatory authority for telecommunications) was preparing to > grant up to five specific DCS 1800 licences (some or all of > which might be regional rather than nation-wide). A decision is to be made very soon, but until then one can only speculate. The scenario you describe does resemble an interview given by Telia Mobitel's managing director about a month ago (Mobitel is Telia's telecom-over-radio division). Telia's been pushing very hard for DCS since that would leave their analog NMT900 system in the clear. They were hoping that NMT would be left intact and that the future GSM customers would have to buy dual-mode handsets. France Telecom is one of the actors that wants DCS freq's in Sweden but they don't want to give Telia access to DCS because of Telia being the dominant player on the Swedish market. >> My reflection to all this is will the introduction of DCS >> make GSM cheaper, i.e. will the prices drop to LD rate? Any >> experiences from the UK or Germany? > I am not a market analyst but I would say without much > hesitation that the UK mobile communications market was a > fairly cosy duopoly until the arrival of the two DCS 1800 > operators. Mercury One-2-One entered the market with very > innovative tariffing schemes (such as free local calls after > business hours). Now here is were the interesting part is. According to my knowledge there exists no GSM/DCS networks in the same country with roaming between them, ie capcaity roaming. Would that be in contrast to what you say 1-2-1 (& Orange) achieved in the UK? If there were five Swedish DCS licenses and licenses one through three went to Telia, Comviq and Europolitan (Swedish GSM operators) how would you compete? > The French Bouygues Telecom network is not yet > operational. Bouygues Telecom has stated in its bid for the > DCS 1800 licence that it expects to use its network > infrastructure to compete with France Telecom for the > provision of voice telephony (in the long run). > The use of DCS 1800 frequencies for the provision of public > mobile services in France is reserved exclusively to Bouygues > Telecom for a limited period of 4 years but only in the five > largest metropolitan areas of France, i.e. Paris, Lyon, > Marseille, Lille and Nice. During this 4 year period, the two > GSM operators will be excluded from using the DCS 1800 > frequencies in the metropolitan areas of Paris, Lyon, > Marseille, Lille and Nice, except if they can demonstrate and > justify that, within a specified geographical area and within > strictly defined technical parameters, the 900 MHz frequency > band is saturated. The aim seems to be to give current GSM operators an ability to offer only capacity but not a full (nationwide) DCS service. Maybe that's what's going to happen in Sweden to ... Sweden has some 750 000 NMT900 users (Telia monopoly) and 500 000 GSM users. A total of 800 000 phones are expected to be sold during 1995. Between 600' and 700' of those'll be GSM. Sweden also has some 250 000 NMT450 users but they aren't affected freq reallocations. Sweden has 8.5 M inhabitants. Sam www.nada.kth.se/~d92-sam, sam@nada.kth.se, +46 7 01234567 ------------------------------ From: d92-sam@mumrik.nada.kth.se (Sam Spens Clason) Subject: Re: EMI Issues With GSM Date: 16 Jun 1995 04:08:16 GMT In z61535@uprc.com (Nathan D. Meehan) writes: The European Commission outlaws any equipment that isn't properly shielded as of January first this year. Medical equipment is excepted -- but only during 1995. There was something about Sweden and Sweden having banned all GSM phones from hospitals. Truth is that cellphones were banned from Swedish hospitals long before GSM. In the future there will be so much more noice on the airwaves that we'll have to protect ourselves much better regardless of choice of technical standard for our PCS/PCN system (that was what the previous article was about wasn't it?). Sam www.nada.kth.se/~d92-sam, sam@nada.kth.se, +46 7 01234567 ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #287 ****************************** Received: from ns1.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa06499; 20 Jun 95 4:32 EDT Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA16809 for telecomlist-outbound; Mon, 19 Jun 1995 20:13:18 -0500 Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA16801; Mon, 19 Jun 1995 20:13:16 -0500 Date: Mon, 19 Jun 1995 20:13:16 -0500 From: TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson) Message-Id: <199506200113.UAA16801@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #288 TELECOM Digest Mon, 19 Jun 95 20:13:00 CDT Volume 15 : Issue 288 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson 800 Service - Out of Numbers? (mitchr@ibm.net) FCC Acts to Conserve 800 Numbers (Judith Oppenheimer) Book Review: "Hotlinks" by Eppley/Hakala (Rob Slade) Book Review: "International Callback Book" by Retske (Rob Slade) Manual Exchanges - Historical Question (Lee Winson) Computer Viruses Banned from Finnish Internet (Kimmo Ketolainen) Satellite Channels to England, France and Canada (Emin R. Gabrielian) European Payphone Survey; Help Please (John D. Smith) USA Payphone Survey; Help Please (John D. Smith) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of public service systems and networks including Compuserve and America On Line. It is also gatewayed to Usenet where it appears as the moderated newsgroup 'comp.dcom.telecom'. Subscriptions are available to qualified organizations and individual readers. 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Date: 19 Jun 1995 18:53:52 GMT Reply-To: mitchr@ibm.net I talked to AT&T today to set up an 800 number, and their response was: "the government has shut us down .... there are NO 800 numbers left for us to sell you". Is this just AT&T? Anybody have any info? Any guesses as to when this situation will be worked out? Mitch (mitchr@ibm.net) [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: That is correct. If you do not have an 800 number at this point -- or several 800 numbers like some people! -- then you are pretty much out of luck getting one. They will be handed out very, very tightly from now on. In the main message in this issue, Judith Oppenheimer will give a full report, coming up next. PAT] ------------------------------ From: Judith Oppenheimer Date: Mon, 19 Jun 1995 09:00:27 -0400 Subject: FCC Acts to Conserve 800 Numbers On June 13, 1995, AT&T, MCI, Sprint, LDDS Worldcom and other Resp Orgs across the country were notified that as of June 14, 1995, 12 AM, the FCC ordered the 800 National Database to limit the number of 800 numbers a Resp Org can assign collectively to reserve or working status, to two hundred (200) per week. Additionally, the total amount of reserve numbers cannot exceed 3% of the Resp Org's working numbers. The prior limit was 15%, and not surprisingly, most Resp Orgs are well over the limit. This has effectively disabled the carriers, at least for the moment, and appears on its face to acknowledge the role the Resp Orgs have played in the current 800 "shortage." Compliance with this order is to begin at 12:01 am eastern time, Wednesday, June 14, 1995, and continue until further notice from the Commission. The SMS is required to provide, by fax, a daily report on 800 number consumption to the FCC, including the total daily activity of each Resp Org. The first report is to contain the consumption activity of each Resp Org from the week of June 5, 1995. This office has obtained a copy of two letters from Kathleen Wallman, Chief of the Common Carrier Bureau, to Michael Wade, president of Database Service Management, Inc., one dated June 9, the other, June 13, 1995. In the first, Ms. Wallman states that a temporary suspension of processing and granting new or pending Resp Org applications will assure that Resp Orgs won't be able to "clone" themselves in order to reserve more 800 numbers and thus accelerate exhaust. She finishes, "By issue of this letter, we direct Database Service Management, Inc. (DSMI) to cease the processing and granting of Resp Org applications as of 12:01 am, June 12, 1995. We require DSMI to inform Resp Orgs with pending applications who have not (1) returned the necessary forms to DSMI; (2) received a credit check; and (3) obtained the proper insurance, that further processing of their applications will be suspended for six months." In the second letter dated June 13, Ms. Wallman reveals how "the industry" has been working with her office to explore alternatives ensuring a smooth transition from 800 to 888 numbers for toll-free calling. These alternatives include acceleration of 888 deployment and strengthening tariff language to prevent "warehousing." She concludes, however, that the problem is accelerated depletion on the part of Resp Orgs, and orders that the Database Service Management, Inc. limit to two hundred per week the amount of 800 numbers a Resp Org may assign collectively to either "working" or "reserve" status. She does permit the DSMI to increase in any one week a Resp Org's assignment by 25% of the amount of numbers it returned to "transition" status. If that same Resp Org does not return numbers the next week, its assignment will return to two hundred numbers. Additionally, the "aging process" is reduced to four months, measuring the four month period from the date when a Resp Org returns an 800 number to the SMS database and marks the number "disconnected." Finally, all 800 numbers currently assigned to the "transition" state are ordered returned to the 800 number "pool" immediately. [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: It sounds like people with 800 numbers may soon have a very valuable commodity by virtue of having an 800 number. Judith, when you get further information or memorandums on this I hope you will pass them along. PAT] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jun 1995 10:40:44 EST From: Rob Slade Subject: Book Review: "Hotlinks" by Eppley/Hakala BKHOTLNK.RVW 950505 %A Mark Eppley %A David Hakala 74720.3377@compuserve.com david.hakala@boardwatch.com %C 2600 Tenth St., Berkeley, CA 94710 %D 1993 %G 0-07-881020-5 %I Osborne McGraw-Hill %O U$29.95 510-548-2805 800-227-0900 lkissing@osborne.mhs.compuserve.com %P 254 %T "Hot Links" "Hot Links", Mark Eppley/David Hakala, 1993, 0-07-881020-5, U$29.95 When I saw the title, I figured it would be about LANs. When I saw the cover, and the fact that one of the authors is the founder of Traveling Software, I figured it would be documentation for LapLink. It's neither. The book covers all kinds of ways to link personal computers. This includes transfers over serial and parallel ports, printer sharing, "A-B" switches, LANs (briefly), modems, PCs and Macs, wireless links, and "little tiny computers" (PDAs, palmtops and such). My initial reaction as a data communications specialist, was that the book is sometimes shy on details. The more I read and thought about it, though, the more I realized that the authors have struck a very good balance in providing just enough information. With the range of topics covered, and the small size of the book, this makes an excellent resource for non-specialists who need to get data from one machine to another. Indeed, because of the breadth of discussion, I suspect many technical support people could use this work, while it is easily readable for the beginning user. For anyone who needs to get a file from Machine A to Machine B, a good starting point. copyright Robert M. Slade, 1995 BKHOTLNK.RVW 950505. Distribution permitted in TELECOM Digest and associated publications. Rob Slade's book reviews are a regular feature in the Digest. Vancouver roberts@decus.ca | "If a train station Institute for Robert_Slade@sfu.ca | is where a train Research into rslade@cyberstore.ca | stops, what happens User Rob_Slade@mindlink.bc.ca | at a workstation?" Security Canada V7K 2G6 | Frederick Wheeler ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jun 1995 10:40:44 EST From: Rob Slade Subject: Book Review: "International Callback Book" by Retske BKITNLCB.RVW 950413 "International CallBack Book", Gene Retske, 1995, 0-936648-65-1, U$34.95 %A Gene Retske gretske@tach.net %C 12 West 21 Street, New York, NY 10010 %D 1995 %G 0-936648-65-1 %I Flatiron Publishing, Inc. %O U$34.95 212-691-8215 1-800-LIBRARY fax 212-691-1191 %P 334 %T "International CallBack Book" Today a call can be made from one end of the country to another for less cost than a local call at a pay phone. Why is it, then, that I afford my wife such rich amusement by the lengths to which I will go rather than return a long distance phone call? My irrational prejudice about the expense of long distance was fixed back in the dark ages, when it *was* relatively expensive. It was common practice, when leaving friends or relatives on a long trip, to place a collect call to those one had left once one had arrived at the destination. They wouldn't accept the call, naturally, but would understand that you had arrived safely. This was sometimes known as "code calling". Such practice was, of course, a form of fraud. Phone companies generally now have tariffs to avoid it, such as a minimum charge on collect calls, whether they are accepted or not. International callback arises from the fact that a call from country A to country B may cost the user up to twice as much as a call placed from country B to country A. The United States generally has much cheaper long distance charges than other countries. Companies are now starting to make use of this fact, and different types of code calling, in order to reduce the overall costs of international long distance traffic. (Despite the security link, "International callback" has no relation to "call back verify", a practice of calling a user back at a pre-determined number in order to authenticate identity.) Retske's book covers all aspects of the field, examining not only the technical problems and solutions in the callback process, but also the establishment and marketing of a company transacting such a telecommunica- tions business. The costs and benefits for users are analysed, and the legal, political, and social aspects are discussed as well. An intriguing argument for the validity of the operation is based not merely on "free market" principles, but on the fact that those entities most opposed to callback are the ones responsible for the disparity which drives its use. copyright Robert M. Slade, 1995 BKITNLCB.RVW 950413. Distribution permitted in TELECOM Digest and associated publications. Rob Slade's book reviews are a regular feature in the Digest. Vancouver ROBERTS@decus.ca Institute for Robert_Slade@sfu.ca Research into Rob.Slade@f733.n153.z1/ User .fidonet.org Security Canada V7K 2G6 [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: The above review was somehow delayed in reaching me, and was actually released by Rob Slade much earlier than it is appearing here. I apologize for the delay in processing it. PAT] ------------------------------ From: turner7@pacsibm.org (Lee Winson) Subject: Manual Exchanges - Historical Question Date: 19 Jun 1995 02:36:44 GMT Organization: PACS IBM SIG BBS Does anyone have any experience with manual telephone exchanges, either as a user or telco person? (Manual exchanges are where all calls were handled by an operator. The last AT&T location was Santa Catalina Island off Calif in the 1970s. By the early 1960s, manual exchanges were rare, but many existed.) I'm curious as to typical times to get an operator, whether small towns used the A/B board arrangement, and how many operators were required. I wonder today how many operators would be on duty to handle say a 20,000 line suburban exchange. In the Philadelphia PA area, I understand the last manual exchange was Upper Darby (just outside the city), FLanders. [I've read some stuff about this, but I'm seeking personal experiences.] Thanks. [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: There were variances in the types of switchboards used, with no specific consistency as to what would be found in any specific town. Very small towns had but a single operator's position while larger towns had several positions. Generally, manual service was as fast as automated service is today. That is, the operator was present on the line within a few seconds and the connection was made within a few seconds more. I suppose today with the prevalence of touchtone, it is faster today, but when the conversion from manual to automatic dialing was going on, rotary dials were the standard, and ten or fifteen seconds devoted to dialing the number was common. In that context then, manual service was about the same since you generally went off hook and got ringing from wherever you were calling within about fifteen seconds most of the time. The key to the speed was in the way the operators were trained. (Yes, I know that sounds odd, but years and years ago the Bell System *did* offer training to new operators instead of like now, where they sometimes have twenty-one year old supervisors overseeing the work of operators with twenty-one year's experience.) An operator not handling a call sat with a cord in her hand, ready to slam it into a jack when one became illumin- ated. The lamp would light when the calling party went off hook, *not when he got the phone to his ear*. Therefore, the operator had a one or two second head start. Frequently when you got the phone to your ear the operator was there asking 'number please'. In a medium size or larger community, your telephone line was multipled on the switchboard; that is, it terminated on several jacks at various operator positions, each of which would illuminate simultaneously. This allowed any operator who was free to handle the call. The first operator answering caused the light to go out and other operators would go on to other subscribers instead. The operators generally worked in groups of three, meaning your line appeared on a jack every third position. About one-third of the exchange showed up on each position, with one third on the position to your left and one third on the position to your right. Then there would be three more operators with the same arrangement, and on through the room. Between the three operators, they had about 1500-1800 jacks; maybe 500-600 each. In addition to the five or six hundred jacks directly in front of your face, along the top of the switchboard were jacks going (a) to other positions around the room, (b) to other exchanges around the city, (c) to long distance operators, and (d) the supervisors, chief operators, etc. If the call you picked up involved another subscriber within your own switchboard, you simply made the connection by taking the tip of your cord and touching it to the sleeve of the jack to 'test for busy', and hearing a 'tick' completing the connection by plugging in the cord and ringing. You had to 'test for busy' because another operator down the line somewhere might have already plugged into that subscriber's jack with a call. If you plugged in also, you'd cause an unwanted 'conference' call between the two callers to the called party, etc. If you did not hear the 'tick' then the line was in use by someone and you responded to the caller 'line is busy', and disconnected. If the line was not busy, that is you got the tick noise then when you plugged in one of two things happened: on older switchboards the operator would toggle a small switch or 'key' associated with the cord pair in use to ring on that line. On newer switchboards, the ringing occurred automatically. A lamp on the switchboard associated with the cord pair in use told the operator when either the called or calling party had hung up the receiver, and this was the signal for the operator to pull down the associated cords. The cords were spring-loaded in the base of the switchboard; all the operator had to do was pull it from the jack and let go; the cord would fall back to its resting place automatically. If the requested connection was in a third of the exchange handled on either side of you, then you reached in front of the operator to your left or right and connected on *that position* in the same way as on your own, but using your own cords so that you would get the 'supervision lamp' notification when the call was finished. Since operators were expected to handle a large number of calls, it was necessary for them to 'overlap'. That meant that they often handled more than one call at a time. For example, an operator might be writing up information on a toll ticket or speaking with a subscriber about something trying to help them and she would notice (during this operation) that another call had been finished because the supervision lamps for that cord pair had lighted. While still talking to the one customer she would reach up and yank down the cords for the other (now concluded) call. If the concluded call was to a jack on the position to your left or right, making it impossible to reach while still attempting to write a toll ticket for a new call you were handling, you simply tugged the cord a little; the operators looked out for each other and when your neighbor-operator saw you tug a cord that was plugged in in front of her, she would reach up and pull it out for you. When she pulled it out, the cord would jump back in your direction and fall in its slot to await further use. Each position generally had fifteen cord pairs -- although some had twenty -- meaning the operator could handle fifteen calls at once, which was almost always enough. If the connection requested was to a number not on your switchboard or that of the operator to your immediate left or right, then the operator would plug into one of the jacks on the top of her switchboard which connected to the switchboard where the requested number *could* be found. When the corresponding jack illuminated elsewhere in the room or in the city, the operator at that end would respond. Likewise, in our illustration here, our operator would also respond to inbound from those jacks on the top. But unlike the other jacks on the main part of the switchboard where the operator responded 'number please', on inter-position and inter-exchange calls the responding operator simply plugged in. A slight but discernable 'tick' told the originating operator that the responding operator had come on the line. Normally on a call handled within your own switchboard or the positions to your left or right, after asking 'number please' and taking your request, the operator simply tested, then plugged in, or told you the line was busy. Once plugged in and the ringing started, the operator would respond 'thank you' and leave the line. If the call had to be passed inter-position or inter-exchange then the dialogue was a little different. Operator: Number please? Caller: Edgewater 509 (or somewhere other than where they were). As soon as the operator heard the exchange name, she was *already reaching up and plugging into a jack for the Edgewater exchange* at the same time you were reciting the rest of the number (five oh nine). She would hear the tick, meaning some operator at the Edgewater office had responded. Originating operator: five oh nine. Silence for a second or two from the other end, then either ringing or the other operator would respond 'line is busy' and disconnect. The operator was not reciting the number back to you to confirm it was correct, she was passing it to the other operator for connection. Once the ringing started at the other end your operator would then say 'thank you. If the call went unanswered, then either the distant operator would eventually pull the cord first causing your operator to get a disconnect signal on the supervision lamp or your operator would see that you had abandoned the call from the same supervision lamp and she would pull the cord causing the distant operator to see the disconnection and pull hers also. If a subscriber had more than one line, then all the jacks for his various lines would be in a cluster; all marked as being the same subscriber. The caller would ask for the main number like now, but seeing a cord in place in that jack (or testing positive for busy on the first jack in the series) the operator would just keep working her way down the line, cord tip to jack sleeve until one of the lines in the 'hunt group' tested not busy. If all were busy, she would respond 'line is busy'. If a subscriber left his phone off the hook accidentally or on purpose, a 'dummy plug' was used to shut off the lamp or the common audible buzzer slower offices used at night when there were intervals of a minute or two between calls. If you did not pay your phone bill, the business office had a special 'dummy plug' they would insert in the jack at one of the positions which grounded out the line in such a way that to the subscriber going off hook the line was 'dead' (no battery) and an operator trying to ring it would never be able to do so. When you paid up -- if you did -- the business office would pull out the dummy plug so normal service was resumed. When speaking to each other, the operators used abbreviations for the longer phrases they used when speaking with subscribers. When talking to another operator (instead of a customer) the operator would say: DA (the line does not answer) BY (the line is busy) NC (there are no circuits available to that exchange now) OD (the line is out of order) NS (no such number or such a number but not in service, not assigned). BD A business office denial of service; a credit disconnect, but this was not considered to be something to be told to other subscribers who were told instead 'I am unable to connect you to that number now.' The fast and speedy service in the days of manual exchanges was predicated like today on the assumption that at any given time only two or three percent of the subscribers would want to make a call. Having five to ten percent of the subscribers off-hook at the same time then like now was considered a very busy period; then like now, fifteen to twenty percent of the subscribers was the most the system could handle; it maxxed out at that point. Following an earthquake, declaration of war, natural disaster, whatever, then like now the response was slow. Now we wait for dial tone and encounter 'no circuit' conditions following some major event. In the manual service days it was the same way, and delays waiting for an operator could be up to two or three minutes, even five minutes on rare occassions. Then like now, calls were withheld from affected areas as needed. If for some reason the subscribers in a given office got into an uproar about something and the traffic was unusually heavy there, word would soon reach other exchanges where instructions would be given to withhold traffic from the affected office until the operators there were able to get their boards under control once again. I didn't think I was ever going to stop writing this, did you? PAT] ------------------------------ From: Kimmo.Ketolainen@utu.fi (Kimmo Ketolainen +358 40 500 2957) Subject: Computer Viruses Banned from Finnish Internet Organization: Turun yliopisto =B7 University of Turku, Turku, Finland Date: Mon, 19 Jun 1995 12:34:33 GMT The Ministry of Traffic and Communications banned last week Internet service providers and their customers from offering computer viruses publicly online. There has recently been one test case with the "2806 viruses pack" available on a WWW page, and this is finally an official resolution which was requested by the various organisations with interests in the Internet. This case of viruses online was viewed as quite controversial in the press. The license to disconnect offending parties is rather strict on this matter: any Internet service provider who does not comply may be disconnected at once. Any telecommunications provider who does not comply in disconnecting the ISP in turn may be disconnected itself by order of the MTC. There are about 50 local and national telecoms in Finland; 5 to 10 major ISPs; and many small BBS scale Internet systems throughout the country. Note: it still remains legal to create and distribute viruses _privately_ whereas in Britain programming also has been banned. For more information contact: Government Counsellor Harri Pursiainen +358 0 160 2389 Harri.Pursiainen@Liikenneministerio.vn.mailnet.fi Chief Engineer Antti Kohtala +358 0 160 2392 Antti.Kohtala@Liikenneministerio.vn.mailnet.fi Kimmo Ketolainen +358 40 500 2957 Studentville 84 A 10B - 20540 Turku - Finland ------------------------------ From: Emin R. Gabrielian Subject: Satellite Channels to England, France and Canada Date: Mon, 19 Jun 1995 16:02:38 +0400 Organization: MTD Group Reply-To: Emin.Gabie@mtd.armenia.su Our organization is busy in the field of telecommunication. Our company name is "JSC INFOCOM". We are certified as a major operator of Data Transfer Networks in Armenia and licensed with exclusive rights in any kind of data transfer on territory of Armenia by Ministry of Communication of Republic of Armenia. Now we have two 64Kbps rate satellite channels to New York and Tyson, based on X.25 protocols, IP and X.25 network infrastructure on territory of Armenia, and several SLIP channels to Internet encapsulated over X.25 network. But the speed of this channels are limited by our SLIP provider's X.25 network speed. So, now we are interested to have direct links with IP providers. We are ready to request additional satellite channels. Our Ministry of Communication is ready to let give us 64Kbps rate channels to England, France and Canada. If there is an organization in this country, who can provide us in connection with Internet, we shall be ready to collaborate with them. I shall be very glad, to have any information that can help me to fix this problem. Thank You in Advance, Best Regards, Emin Gabrielian. voice: +7 (88539) 06842 fax: +7 (88539) 06852 fax/voice: +7 (8852) 528856 +7 (8852) 151926 e-mail: emin@mtd.armenia.su emin@hermes.lnf.infn.it X.400: (C:USA,A:TELEMAIL,O:ALLIANCE.PARTNERS,UN:INFOCOM.ADMIN) (C:ARMENIA,A:ARMMAIL,O:MOC,UN:EMIN) ------------------------------ From: jds99@aol.com (Jds99) Subject: European Payphone Survey; Help Please Date: 19 Jun 1995 21:23:53 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Reply-To: jds99@aol.com (Jds99) I am doing a study on payphone service directions in the USA and Europe. I am also very interested in the effect that wireless services have had on payphone usage in various countries. Below are 18 questions (some with a few parts), each requiring a simple answer. I would appreciate your input s to the survey, since you represent a technologically advanced segment of the population. I think you should be able to complete the questionnaire in less than 10 minutes. If you elect to participate, I would appreciate your answers by June 24th as I am working against a short deadline. I will share a summary of the results with you, if you would like a copy. Your reply will not be used for any mailing list and you will not be contacted by anyone, except if it is necessary to fully understand your response or if you ask to be contacted. John D. Smith Here are the questions (merely put your answers in place of the underline): 1) What is your home country ? _____________________ 2) On the average (when you are in Europe), how many times each year do you use a public payphone ? _________________ 3) When in Europe, do you usually carry a telephone debit card?_____________ 4) When using a payphone (in Europe), what is your usual method of payment (coins, debit card, regular telephone credit card, major credit card, other)? _____________________ 5) Have you used any of the newer screen-based payphones that have added additional services (e.g. multi-language instructions, data connections, reservation services, sports/news updates, etc.)?_________ Where (USA or European Country)? _______________ 6) Have you ever used a payphone to connect a laptop computer to the network?________ Where (USA or European Country)? _________________ If you have done this, did it work well? ___________________ 7) Is the availability of services such as noted in question number 5, likely to make you use payphones more often? _____________ 8) In Europe, are you generally (more, less, or same) satisfied with payphone service today than 5 years ago?___________________________ 9) Does your home country currently have a commercial PCS (micro-cellular) service available? ____________________ 10) In Europe, do you also own and use a mobile cellular phone? _____________ 11) In Europe, do you also own and use a pager? __________ 12) In Europe, are you generally (more, less, or same) satisfied with mobile cellular service than you were 5 years ago? ________________ 13) In Europe, are you generally (more, less, or same) satisfied with pager service than you were 5 years ago? _______________ 14) In Europe, has your use of a cellular phone (if you use one) significantly changed your use of payphones? ____ If yes, has it increased or decreased your use of payphones? ______________ 15) In Europe, has your use of a pager phone (if you use one) significantly changed your use of payphones? ____ If yes, has it increased or decreased your use of payphones? ______________ 16) Are all of the payphones in your country installed and operated by your country's primary telephone administration (PTT)? ______________ If your answer is no, what percentage would you estimate is operated by them? ______________ Who else operates payphones in your country? ___________ 17) What percentage of your payphones (estimate) will accept coins only? __________ What percentage of your payphones (estimate) will accept debit or credit cards only? ______________ What percentage (estimate) will accept both coins and debit or other credit cards?_______ 18) Any comments that might be useful for purposes of the study, but which I neglected to ask (for example, are you aware of any published material on payphones)? __________________________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________________________ ____________________________________________________ See, that was easy! Please e-mail your answer to me at jdsmith@mfsmith.com Thanks, John D. Smith M.F.Smith & Associates Morristown, NJ 07960-6628 1-201-425-1400 (Business Phone) ------------------------------ From: jds99@aol.com (Jds99) Subject: USA Payphone Survey; Help Please Date: 19 Jun 1995 11:40:26 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Reply-To: jds99@aol.com (Jds99) I am doing a study on payphone service directions in the USA and Europe. I am also very interested in the effect that wireless services have had on payphone usage in various countries. Below are 18 questions (some with a few parts), each requiring a simple answer. I would appreciate your inputs to the survey, since you represent a technologically advanced segment of the population. I think you should be able to complete the questionnaire in less than 10 minutes. If you elect to participate, I would appreciate your answers by June 24th as I am working against a short deadline. I will share a summary of the results with you, if you would like a copy. Your reply will not be used for any mailing list and you will not be contacted by anyone, except if it is necessary to fully understand your response or if you ask to be contacted. John D. Smith Here are the questions (merely put your answers in place of the underline): 1) Is your home country, the USA? (All questions below relate to USA, although it is not necessary that your home country be the USA)_____________________ 2) On the average, how many times each year do you use a public payphone? ________________ 3) Have you used a telephone debit card in the USA?_____________ If so, where did you purchase or otherwise obtain the card?______________________ 4) When using a payphone, what is your usual method of payment (coins, debit card, regular telephone credit card, major credit card, other)? _____________________ 5) Have you used any of the newer screen-based payphones that have added additional services (e.g. multi-language instructions, data connections, reservation services, sports/news updates, etc.)?_________ Where (USA or European Country)? _______________ 6) Have you ever used a payphone to connect a laptop computer to the network?________ Where (USA or European Country)? _________________ If you have done this, did it work well? ___________________ 7) Is the availability of services such as noted in question number 5, likely to make you use payphones more often? _____________ 8) In USA, are you generally (more, less, or same) satisfied with payphone service today than 5 years ago?___________________________ 9) Does your area of the country currently have a commercial PCS (micro-cellular) service available? ____________________ 10) Do you also own and use a mobile cellular phone? _____________ 11) Do you also own and use a pager? __________ 12) Are you generally (more, less, or same) satisfied with mobile cellular service than you were 5 years ago? ________________ 13) Are you generally (more, less, or same) satisfied with pager service than you were 5 years ago? _______________ 14) Has your use of a cellular phone (if you use one) significantly changed your use of payphones? ____ If yes, has it increased or decreased your use of payphones? ______________ 15) Has your use of a pager phone (if you use one) significantly changed your use of payphones? ____ If yes, has it increased or decreased your use of payphones? ______________ 16) What percentage of payphones in your area (estimate) will accept coin s only? __________ What percentage of your payphones (estimate) will accept debit and/or credit cards only? ______________ What percentage (estimate ) will accept both coins and debit or other credit cards?_______ 17) Have you ever seen an automatic debit card dispenser in the USA?________ Have you ever seen a public payphone in the USA that READS the debit cards?______ 18) Any comments that might be useful for purposes of the study, but whic= h I neglected to ask (for example, are you aware of any published material on payphones)? _________________________________________________________________________ _________________________________________________________________________ __ ____________________________________________________ See, that was easy! Please e-mail your answer to me at jdsmith@mfsmith.com. Thanks John D. Smith M.F.Smith & Associates Morristown, NJ 07960-6628 1-201-425-1400 (Business Phone) ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #288 ****************************** Received: from ns1.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa28867; 20 Jun 95 4:01 EDT Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA17617 for telecomlist-outbound; Mon, 19 Jun 1995 20:55:13 -0500 Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA17608; Mon, 19 Jun 1995 20:55:10 -0500 Date: Mon, 19 Jun 1995 20:55:10 -0500 From: TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson) Message-Id: <199506200155.UAA17608@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #289 TELECOM Digest Mon, 19 Jun 95 20:55:00 CDT Volume 15 : Issue 289 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson India Worries About National Security and Private Telecom Nets (R. Ghosh) India's Telecom Workers Go on Strike (Rishab Aiyer Ghosh) Book Review: "Gale Guide to Internet Databases" by Zakalik (Rob Slade) FCC Regulations For Cellular E911 (Robert A. Voss) CompuServe Announces PNG-Based Graphics Specification (Wendell Baker) E-Journal Editor/Publisher Conference in Budapest (orczanc@mars.iif.hu) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of public service systems and networks including Compuserve and America On Line. It is also gatewayed to Usenet where it appears as the moderated newsgroup 'comp.dcom.telecom'. Subscriptions are available to qualified organizations and individual readers. Write and tell us how you qualify: * telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu * The Digest is edited, published and compilation-copyrighted by Patrick Townson of Skokie, Illinois USA. 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Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 19 Jun 95 13:08:00 WET From: rishab@m-net.arbornet.org (Rishab Aiyer Ghosh) Subject: India Worries About National Security and Private Telecom Nets --==(C) Copyright 1995 Rishab Aiyer Ghosh (rishab@arbornet.org) 19th June 1995: According to a report from the Parliamentary Standing Committee on Communications, India's Department of Telecommunications (DoT) has recommended the "ultimate remedy of a government takeover of [a private telecom] network in case of circumstances arising out of internal disturbances and sabotage." The government, paranoid about the foreign companies who will own as much as 49% of a telecom operator, worries that the networks may conduct unauthorised wiretaps, presumably on behalf of evil Western intelligence agencies. Such interception could, according to the Parliamentary Committee, "pose a grave threat to the nation as well as infringe on the privacy of citizens." Today I spoke to Telecom Secretary R K Takkar about the security criteria included in the tender document for the provision of basic telecom services (publicly available, but for $3,000). Mr Takkar said that the decision to impose the "ultimate remedy" will be made by the government, as it comes under statutory powers that are not being transferred to the independent Telecom Regulatory Authority of India. As the government has also retained the powers to licence operators, and is the contracting party, the private telecom networks explicitly agree to these terms. In fact, the "ultimate remedy" is included in the tender document, as are other requirements, on the whole reasonable. For example, foreign personnel working on installations or maintenance would need prior security clearance. Operators would provide access to switching and transmission centres, and intercept traffic for the authorities. They could only install "approved" encryption equipment, such as that required for GSM cellular (the private use of encryption has not been mentioned). Incidentally, Indian courts do not issue warrants or accept wiretaps as evidence, giving the police little incentive to intercept. Moreover, all wiretaps are illegal, except in exceptional circumstances. Whatever wiretaps are carried out are conducted informally by agencies such as the Intelligence Bureau -- reputedly the world's oldest spook agency still active -- and the victims are opposition politicians. Every decade or so a few cases come to light, are furiously debated in Parliament, and declared illegal. As they never reach the courts -- which would probably concur -- there are no legal precedents, only predictions. Await a detailed story on telecom and security in the second issue of my newsletter. The first, which includes coverage of the proposed regulatory authorities for communications and broadcasting, will be on the Net later this month. --==(C) Copyright 1995 Rishab Aiyer Ghosh (rishab@arbornet.org) --==May be distributed electronically provided that only compilation or --==transmission charges are applied. Other uses require written permission. Rishab Aiyer Ghosh For Electric Dreams subscriptions rishab@dxm.ernet.in and back issues, send a mail to rishab@arbornet.org rishab@arbornet.org with Vox +91 11 6853410 Voxmail 3760335 'help' in lower case, without H 34C Saket, New Delhi 110017, INDIA the quotes, as the Subject. [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Excerpts from Electric Dreams appear regularly in the Digest with my thanks to the publisher of that journal for sharing them with us. PAT] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jun 95 12:36 WET From: rishab@m-net.arbornet.org (Rishab Aiyer Ghosh) Subject: India's Telecom Workers Go on Strike --==(C) Copyright 1995 Rishab Aiyer Ghosh (rishab@arbornet.org) 19th June 1995: Three employees federations representing 450,000 telecom workers nationwide went declared an indefinite strike today in protest against the government's privatisation programme. Negotiations with Minister for Communications Sukh Ram went on till late on Sunday evening, but were unsuccessful. The unions claimed that the strike would not affect telephone subscribers, and that their protest was only against some "deviations" from the government's National Telecom Policy, which called for private investment. Still, operations in the few manual exchanges remaining in small towns may be disrupted, as may any maintenance work. Telecom workers, from the Department of Telecommunications monopoly as well as ITI, a public sector equipment manufacturer, object to the compulsory foreign investment criteria in the tender for basic and cellular services, of which the bids were announced earlier this month. This is implicit in the requirement of prior operational experience -- which private Indian companies, naturally, do not have, with the result that all the bids are joint ventures with a foreign stake of up to 49%. The government is not considering changing its policies. Instead, it has declared the strike illegal, and has asked states to take action on the basis of the Essential Services Maintenance Act. An exclusive report on India's telecom liberalisation and planned regulatory authority -- based on an interview with the Telecom Secretary -- will be found in my newsletter, out on the Net later this month. --==(C) Copyright 1995 Rishab Aiyer Ghosh (rishab@arbornet.org) --==May be distributed electronically provided that only compilation or --==transmission charges are applied. Other uses require written permission. Rishab Aiyer Ghosh For Electric Dreams subscriptions rishab@dxm.ernet.in and back issues, send a mail to rishab@arbornet.org rishab@arbornet.org with Vox +91 11 6853410 Voxmail 3760335 'help' in lower case, without H 34C Saket, New Delhi 110017, INDIA the quotes, as the Subject. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jun 1995 17:54:08 EST From: Rob Slade Subject: Book Review: "Gale Guide to Internet Databases" by Zakalik BKGALEGD.RVW 950427 %A Joanna Zakalik zakalik@gale.com %C 7625 Empire Drive, Florence, KY 41042 %D 1995 %G ISSN 0-7876-0198-5 %I Gale Research Inc. %O 313-961-2242 800-347-GALE fax: 313-961-6815 galedsl@mail.msen.com %P 478 %T "Gale Guide to Internet Databases" "Gale Guide to Internet Databases", Joanna Zakalik, 1995, 0-7876-0198-5 This work collects data on two thousand sites on the Internet, accessible primarily by Gopher, World Wide Web browser or telnet. Listings are alphabetical by site name. Indices afford access by provider name, name of contact or maintainer, general subject, and a "master index". While an awful lot of work has gone into this, I find it difficult to describe who or what it might be for. Many entries are only technically Internet-accessible, requiring subscription fees for use. Descriptions are often lacking in accuracy: the CBC archive, with many audio files of programs, is described as a "Full Text" type. Indexing still needs a lot of work: many entries are not found in all indices, and some index entries refer to descriptive listings which don't mention them. For the casual browser, either of the two "yellow pages" (cf BKINTYLP.RVW and BKNRYLPG.RVW) or others of the catalogue type books would be more useful. The specialist may or may not find help herein. copyright Robert M. Slade, 1995 BKGALEGD.RVW 950427. Distribution permitted in TELECOM Digest and associated publications. Rob Slade's book reviews are a regular feature in the Digest. ROBERTS@decus.ca, RSlade@sfu.ca, Rob Slade at 1:153/733 RSlade@cyberstore.ca If you can tell good advice from bad advice, you don't *need* any advice Author "Robert Slade's Guide to Computer Viruses" 0-387-94311-0/3-540-94311-0 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jun 95 11:49:00 EST From: Robert A. Voss <0002120410@mcimail.com> Subject: FCC Regulations For Cellular E911 The FCC is currently in the process of formulating regulations for the wireless industry on access to E911. The FCC realized that current systems are incapable of reporting the location of the cellular caller to the emergency call taker. In many cases, the cellular caller doesn't even know what highway they are on, no less pinpointing a location to allow emergency response. An extensive task force, sponsored by the Personal Communications Industry Assocation Technical and Engineering Committee, filed detailed comments on the FCC Notice of Proposed Rule Making. Several industry meetings, sponsored by both PCIA and CTIA, were previously held. The PCIA task force also looked at suitable technologies to provide the geolocation accuracy requested by the public safety community. The FCC NPRM proposed a phased in approach over five years. In the initial phase, cellular (and other wireless common carrier systems such as ESMR and PCS) would report the cell site or cell face via the cellular switch, local switching infrastructure, and E911 tandems and databases, to the emergency call takers position. The call would be routed to a predetermined call taking position. In two steps, resolution of the geographic location to within several hundred feet would be required over the five year period. The FCC received a tremendous amount of comments from the industry on this NPRM. Apart from a few minor details, such as more than half of the country does not even have E911, and that most cellular 911 calls are routed to highway patrols rather than to the "nearest" PSAP, and the tens or hundreds of millions of dollars in upgrades to local switching and database systems will have to be financed by local communities, the FCC plans to move forward on this. It is quite likely that some capability will be phased in over the next few years, but many difficult obstacles remain to develop the neccesary standards and interfaces to deliver the location information from the cellular system, through the existing LEC network and 9-1-1 infrastructure and databases, to the existing, often uniquely customized 9-1-1 answering centers. Most cellular systems record at least the intial cell in which a call was placed, as well as some record of cells traversed, to allow maintence personnel to be able to troubleshoot complaints. This is part of the normal switch billing detail record. This does not always "locate" the caller to a specific location since calls can be originated on other cells nearby due to propagation effects. Bob Voss MCI MAIL - MCI ID: 212-0410 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jun 1995 08:55:23 MST From: John Shaver Subject: CompuServe Announces PNG-Based Graphics Specification --------- Forwarded ---------- From: bostic@CS.Berkeley.EDU (Keith Bostic) at WOODY Date: 6/19/95 10:05AM To: John Shaver at E.M.E.T.F. Subject: CompuServe Announces PNG-Based Graphics Specification From: Wendell Craig Baker Remember the CompuServe flap over GIF of last January? CompuServe first came out and said that everyone had to get a license to use GIF. Then as the flames rose they explained that they were only doing this because Unisys required it for their compression patent. Somehow they had neglected to mention this at first, and had chosen a holiday weekend to make their license requirements known. In response various people proposed a new graphics format that was unpatented. CompuServe finally resolved the situation by promising to return with a patent-clean graphics standard. Then we heard nothing from them. Well, they're back with a new graphics standard in hand. The press release announcing it follows. The full story was: 4. http://www.baker.com/grand-unification-theory/archive/199501/19950117.html#0 CompuServe's GIF24 effort Tue, 17 Jan 1995 20:06:53 -0800 3. http://www.baker.com/grand-unification-theory/archive/199501/19950107.html#0 Unisys Clarifies Policy Regarding Patent Use in On-Line Service Offerings Sat, 07 Jan 1995 00:09:15 -0800 2. http://www.baker.com/grand-unification-theory/archive/199501/19950106.html#2 Unisys Policy Change Regarding GIF/LZW Fri, 06 Jan 1995 22:56:18 -0800 1. http://www.baker.com/grand-unification-theory/archive/199501/19950103.html#0 CompuServe announces GIF developer license program Tue, 03 Jan 1995 14:50:49 -0800 Enjoy, W. http://www.compuserve.com/new/news_rel/png2.html COMPUSERVE(R) ANNOUNCES PNG-BASED GRAPHICS SPECIFICATION Fully Open 24 Bit Graphics Capability for Electronic Graphics Exchange COLUMBUS, Ohio, June 15, 1995 -- CompuServe Incorporated today announced the completion of a new 24-bit graphics specification that was announced earlier this year. This new, enhanced 24-bit lossless specification will offer the professional graphics community a significant enhancement to the earlier GIF 89a specification while also eliminating the proprietary LZW software, replacing it with compression technology compliant with the PNG (pronounced `ping') specification. "The new specification is a true 24-bit lossless format that will give users a 16 million color palette and represents a significant enhancement over the previous GIF technology," said Tim Oren, CompuServe vice president of future technology. "More importantly, this new specification has been created with tremendous attention to making it free, open and rights clear so that anyone can incorporate it into their products without fear of patent infringement." The new specification was developed as a collaboration between CompuServe and several key communities: The Internet PNG group led by Thomas Boutell, and including Jean-loup Gailly and Mark Adler, the developers of Deflate and Inflate; and the CompuServe online graphics forums (GO GRAPHICS). Ultimately, CompuServe's new graphics specification adopted compression technology that was based on the PNG specification. As a result of those efforts, CompuServe has determined that the PNG format closely meets the future requirements for graphics interchange on the Internet, on CompuServe and on other services. Based on current evaluation results, PNG will also be useful for exchange of information between graphics software products "Earlier this year, there was a great deal of attention paid to GIF on the Internet," continued Oren. "Much of it was constructive and served not only to move the 24-bit graphics project off the back burner, but also gave us connections to the Internet team which helped us create the new PNG-compatible graphics specification in only five months. This cooperative effort has benefited the whole online community and should serve as a model for how the Internet's positive and creative forces can be focused." PNG makes use of a data compression technology called `deflation' used in the freeware Info-Zip programs. CompuServe has adopted the PNG format and is creating a free toolkit that will create graphics meeting the PNG specification while avoiding patent concerns. The toolkit will be available within the next few weeks. Though CompuServe will hold a copyright on the toolkit, it is understood that its free distribution and use is encouraged and expected. To maintain the free and clear patent status of the new specification, it will not be backward compatible with the current GIF89a specification. Adoption of the new PNG-based specification will take place over time, allowing a smooth transition to the new format. CompuServe will also provide a conversion utility from GIF89a to PNG for use in conjunction with the CompuServe Information Services. This utility will be available within the next few weeks. The CompuServe Information Service continues to be the world's most successful and most popular online and Internet service with millions of members who go online from more than 3.1 million active, paying accounts in more than 150 countries. The undisputed industry leader in innovation, the service offers global email, the industry's first CD-ROM supplement, libraries of free software, selected 28.8 kbps access and worldwide direct Internet access services. For a free introductory CompuServe membership, call 800-524-3388 and ask for representative number 664, or access CompuServe's home page on the World Wide Web (http://www.compuserve.com). In addition to the CompuServe Information Service, CompuServe offers networking, Internet services, electronic mail and business information services to major corporations worldwide. CompuServe is an H&R Block (NYSE: HRB) company. ------------------------------ From: H4458Orc@ella.hu Subject: E-Journal Editor/Publisher Conference in Budapest Date: 19 Jun 1995 13:11:08 +0100 Dear Sir, We organize an international ELECTRONIC JOURNAL CONFERENCE *** WE INVITE JOURNALISTS, EDITORS and PUBLISHERS *** to BUDAPEST, HUNGARY on November 9-10-11 ,1995 TOPICS: * ELECTRONIC JOURNAL WRITING, EDITING AND PUBLISHING * PUBLIC RELATIONS IN THE E-JOURNAL, GOPHER AND WWW CALL FOR PAPERS Papers are invited on all subjects mentioned. Please submit ASCII text and image (uuencode) [written in English] 5.000 words containing a 65 character/ line a brief abstract (at max. 5 lines long) MET@huearn.sztaki.hu subject: papers Lecture Authors will be notified about the acceptance of papers by August 20, 1995. The conference proceedings are intended to be published on floppy disc. CONFERENCE LANGUAGE: English (translation into Hungarian) PROGRAM COMMITTEE Csaba S. Orczan [chair] Zsolt Orczan Dr [co-chair) orczanz@mars.iif.hu SOCIAL PROGRAMME Welcome Cocktail November 9, 1995 Excursion , Theatre, Opera... CALL FOR PARTICIPATION To participate in the conference please fill in and e-mail the attached Registration Form to the met@huearn.sztaki.hu at your earliest convenience. Please note that for early registration a reduced fee is applicable. You will receive the confirmation of your participation and the detailed program in due time. Early Registration until August 20, 1995 FEES before August 20, after 299 USD 350 USD ACCOMPANYING PERSONS are welcome and may attend the welcome cocktail, the Conference reception and the lunches on the conference days at a fee of: 120 USD. PAYMENT Participants are kindly requested to transfer the fees to the following: MoneyGram to AMERICAN EXPRESS BUDAPEST HUNGARY-1052, ORCZAN Zsolt or POSTA BANK Budapest H-1920 account number: 131-121844 ORCZAN Zsolt Please note that in case of cancellation only a 50 % of the paid fee will be refunded. CONFERENCE SECRETARIAT MET Budapest Pf.311 Hungary H-1536 e-mail: met@huearn.sztaki.hu ........................cut here.......................................... REGISTRATION FORM Family Name:... ... male/female First Name(s):... Address:... e-mail:... Telephone:... I intend to submit a paper ... yes/no Title /area of paper:... Technical equipment required:... I pay the fee MoneyGram ... yes/no or Bank account ...yes/no transaction date:... and number...... I register ... accompanying persons. Please send me information about available accomodations ... yes/no I need a hotel room ... single/double luxus...five star(*****)...four star (****)...three star (***)...yes/no Date from ...... to ...... Please inform me about Excursion, Theatre, or Opera... yes/no ......................cut here........................................... About BUDAPEST In 1835, an English peer by the name of John Paget got his first look of Buda and Pest from the crest of Gellert Hill. Of what he saw there he wrote as follows: "Buda with its blue chain of hills, Pest with its yellow plain, and the majestic Danube with its green isles were all sprawled out at our feet ... and we sat for some time, enthralled by all that beauty. One hundred and fifty years have passed since the ousting of the Turk, and in this space of time, the city has risen from squalid ruins to become one of the great cities of Europe. Pest owes its progress not to the good will of a benevolent ruler, but to its natural endowments and the energy of its people. It lies on the banks of a river that traverses half of Europe, and may expand unbounded in every direction. All this leads one to anticipate a splendid future for Pest-Buda." It is interesting to compare Paget's description with the observation made by the geographer Kohl from Bremen just seven years later. The order-loving German appraised the city with satisfaction: "Pest was conceived in an orderly manner, the city plan was elaborated with proper circumspection. The main thoroughfares leading in every direction from the centre of the town are broad and straight." The haphazardness of Buda, however, was less to his liking. "There is no sign of planning. The streets are neither centralized nor straight; consequently, the town has no core, and in its network of streets, one will find nothing that resembles order. The reason for this is the unfavourable soil and the fact that the roads are cut off by hills, preventing the population from building their houses in a rational manner." Whether we think of the past or the present, the description is faithful. Whether to its advantage or otherwise, Pest is comparable to other big cities lying on the plain. But Buda is unique, like Stockholm, Istanbul, or Rio, and this is due precisely to its "disorderliness". Pest may expand without constraint, but Buda is bound by the surrounding hill country. In the course of its development, Pest has smothered and devoured its environment, as most big cities do. But even today, Buda is inseparable from it, despite the fact that the "peaceful coexistence" between man and nature is being increasingly threatened. More and more houses are appearing on the formerly sparsely populated hillsides, and the tentacles of urbanization feel their way not only upward: they bore their way into the remotest hollows of the valleys. Small plots of land are being congested by large houses, and even sometimes entire neighbourhoods; the gardens are shrinking, the woods receding into the distance. New roads are being built, public utilities, service accommodations es- tablished. Nevertheless, Buda continued to be characterized not so much by its wreath of hills as by the fragmentedness of its inner area. It has no rational geometrical scheme. The inner city hills -- Rozsadomb, Naphegy, Varhegy (Castle Hill), Gellert-hegy and Sashegy, -- which boast perhaps the world's only big city nature conservation area, divide the body of the town into sections, thus giving the whole a diversified, exciting aspect. The old sixteenth-century Italian say- ing according to which the world has three gems: Venice on the water, Florence on the plain, and Buda on the hill, in all probability still holds true, and so does the ironic saying of Hungarian architects, according to which the natural endowments of Buda are so beautiful that even they, the architects. can't wipe them out completely. Please reply as soon as possible! Yours sincerely, Dr. ORCZAN, Zsolt & ORCZAN Csaba MET Publisher: ORCZAN, Zsolt e-mail.:orczanz@mars.iif.hu MET Chief editor: ORCZAN, Csaba e-mail.:orczanc@mars.iif.hu MET BUDAPEST PoBox. 311. HUNGARY, H-1536 **** MET@HUEARN [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Perhaps many of the Internet e-zine publishers/editors will be able to attend. Budapest is certainly a very lovely place to visit, and I know many of us have never been there. PAT] ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #289 ****************************** Received: from ns1.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa08235; 20 Jun 95 8:19 EDT Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA19503 for telecomlist-outbound; Mon, 19 Jun 1995 23:54:04 -0500 Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA19493; Mon, 19 Jun 1995 23:54:02 -0500 Date: Mon, 19 Jun 1995 23:54:02 -0500 From: TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson) Message-Id: <199506200454.XAA19493@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #290 TELECOM Digest Mon, 19 Jun 95 23:54:00 CDT Volume 15 : Issue 290 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Employment Opportunity: Network Supervisor (TransQuest Technologies) More FCC Airwave Auctioning (Investor's Business Daily via Michael Kuras) BOCA Research Multi-Port Box (Sean Burbidge) Modem or PC Card With Touch-Tone/Voice Send/Recieve Wanted (Paul Cook) Help Wanted With Paging Protocol For Alphanumeric Motorolas (Kalmin) Looking For Research on ATM Networks (Jose Manuel Barrutia) Dialogic For Sale / Trade / Needed (76124.3302@compuserve.com) Wanted: USRobotics V.34 28,800 V.Everything Dual Standard Modem (Brad Yi) Modem Connection via Cordless Telephone? Feasable? (Georg Schwarz) Using USR Sportster in UK (Jeremie Kass) Routers With Builtin Firewalls? (James McGovern) What Would You Like to See on a WWW Site? (Paul Beit) UCLA Short Course "Optical Fiber Communications" (William R. Goodin) Rolm Upgrade From 9004 to Rolm 9751 (Geof Hawkeswood) Telekom Cheating Local Internet Users (Dalibor Cerar) MCI or Sprint Rate to Asia (Norman Lo) Do You Use DPN-100 Switching Equipment? (Pat Coghlan) New Training Locator (Travis Russell) Any Payphone Trend Experts Out There? (John D. Smith) Last Laugh! Big Brother is Watching You (Special Agent Mike Long, FBI) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of public service systems and networks including Compuserve and America On Line. It is also gatewayed to Usenet where it appears as the moderated newsgroup 'comp.dcom.telecom'. Subscriptions are available to qualified organizations and individual readers. Write and tell us how you qualify: * telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu * The Digest is edited, published and compilation-copyrighted by Patrick Townson of Skokie, Illinois USA. You can reach us by postal mail, fax or phone at: 9457-D Niles Center Road Skokie, IL USA 60076 Phone: 500-677-1616 Fax: 708-329-0572 ** Article submission address only: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu ** Our archives are located at lcs.mit.edu and are available by using anonymous ftp. The archives can also be accessed using our email information service. For a copy of a helpful file explaining how to use the information service, just ask. ************************************************************************* * TELECOM Digest is partially funded by a grant from the * * International Telecommunication Union (ITU) in Geneva, Switzerland * * under the aegis of its Telecom Information Exchange Services (TIES) * * project. Views expressed herein should not be construed as represent-* * ing views of the ITU. * ************************************************************************* Additionally, the Digest is funded by gifts from generous readers such as yourself who provide funding in amounts deemed appropriate. Your help is important and appreciated. A suggested donation of twenty dollars per year per reader is considered appropriate. See our address above. All opinions expressed herein are deemed to be those of the author. Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: transque@ix.netcom.com (TransQuest Technologies) Subject: Help Wanted: Network Supervisor Date: 19 Jun 1995 19:43:42 GMT Organization: Netcom We are currently searching for a Network Supervisor to support and direct the processes in managing the UNIX workstation environment. You should have: - 4 to 5 years experience administering UNIX workstations across multiple LANs and multiple geographical locations. - Be experienced with SunOS, AIX, ULTRIX together with NIS, NIS+, DNS and EMail. - Design and management with LAN and WAN topologies, including bridges, routers, hubs and telecom (TI and dial-up) is also necessary. - Knowledge of PC and Apple Macintosh connections to the various supported networks is desirable. - Strong verbal, written communication and interpersonal skills are also required for this position. If this position is of interest to you, please send your resume or a message with your name, address, and telephone number by EMail or Fax to: AOL: Transque Netcom: transque@ix.netcom.com Fax: Southern California 310-556-4150 Northern California 408-246-6656 Thank you. Ms. A. Thomas TransQuest Technologies, Inc. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jun 1995 16:40:39 -0400 From: mkuras@ccs.neu.edu (Michael J Kuras) Subject: More FCC Airwave Auctioning Organization: College of Computer Science, Northeastern University NEW AUCTION RULES FOR WIRELESS CABLE The FCC issued new rules for auctioning 493 licenses for "wireless cable," a subscription-based service that transmits television programming over the airwaves to TVs equipped with special receivers. Wireless cable, also known as multichannel, multipoint distribution services or MMDS, already serves more than 2.3 million people worldwide, and industry groups have warned that the auction could hinder rather than encourage competition. "The FCC is attempting to graft a very successful process onto an area where it doesn't belong," says the legal counsel for the Wireless Cable Association International. Industry officials have worried about "scalpers" who would go after the licenses, only to turn around and sell them for inflated profits, but the new rules mandate that the licensees must build their own systems within five years. (Investor's Business Daily 6/16/95 A5) michael j kuras www.ccs.neu.edu/~mkuras mkuras@ccs.neu.edu ------------------------------ From: hais@axxis.com (Sean Burbidge) Subject: BOCA Research Multi-Port Box Date: Mon, 19 Jun 1995 20:45:24 GMT Organization: Megahertz Corporation Reply-To: sburbidge@mhz.com Help. We have a BOCA Research multi-port box servicing our BBS. I am unsure of the actual model number; the only indication of any model number at all is a sticker with "BB0016" on it. I have tried to contact BOCA a couple of times to no avail. At this point, a newsgroup is my best avenue for technical support. What I desperately need to know is whether or not this box will work in OS/2, specifically with the Maximus CBCS BBS software, or any OS/2 native software for that matter. Please email any information to sburbidge@mhz.com. A follow up will be generated. Thank you in advance. Sean C. Burbidge "My other vehicle is a Megahertz Resource Engineer V.34 PCMCIA Data/Fax Modem." Megahertz Corporation Salt Lake City, UT - 2002 Olympics ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jun 95 16:46 EST From: Tansin A. Darcos & Company <0005066432@mcimail.com> Subject: Modem or PC Card With Touch-Tone/Voice Send/Receive Wanted Reply-To: Paul Robinson Organization: Tansin A. Darcos & Company, Silver Spring, MD USA Greetings. I want to find a PC card, either as a modem, or a standalone card, that can be put into an 8086 or 80286, that will allow the device to do the following: 1. Answer the phone when it rings. 2. Accept incoming Touch-Tone(R) signals (DTMF) and decode them so the program can see them. It would be nice if it recognized A-B-C and D buttons (not found on most consumer telephones), but it isn't necessary. 3. Generate outgoing Touch-Tone, again A-B-C-D is nice as an extra feature. 4. Be able to play a recorded voice file, or play other files on various selections. I would like it to have (but I can do without) the following: 5. Be able to record incoming voice. I know voice takes about 8-40K of disk space per second depending on how it is encoded or compressed. Cost is a (but not THE only) factor here. If it is a single line card I am assuming I can use an 8086 or 80286 to run it. Used is okay. If it is a multiline card (or multiline is significantly less per port) then I'd be interested as well. Also, if this comes in an external modem or other device instead of internal, that would also be nice. Whatever I can find. I'd need to know what the minimum processor and speed machine (8086-10, 80286-12, 386sx-16, 386DX-33, 486 ...) that it will run acceptably at, say, if all four ports were simultaneously in use performing the most processor or disk intensive task that the system has to perform. I'd either like to be able to program it from a language (Basic, Pascal, whatever ...) or that the system it comes with has a rich enough scripting capability to branch on incoming Touch-Tone digits, time of day, time the caller has been on, etc. What I want is something that will do items 1 thru 4 or 5 above, so that I can use it as a type of announcement system, and/or use it for people to request appointments. I'd like to know if it either has a data modem, or a fax/data modem, so I could use it for a "Faxback" system as well, although if it's cheaper without it, I can use that. If the card supports both a POTS (Standard incoming) telephone line and PBX-style DID lines, that would be a nice option for the future, while it is not that important, but I would consider it. Also, are there any with an API that allows someone to use an application to access it? Or, in the alternative, does the program supplied have a rich enough script language to allow someone to customize what it does? I know there was one that once allowed people to program it using Basic. Paul Robinson or 0005066432@MCIMAIL.COM ------------------------------ From: ind02299@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu (Independent Account 2299) Subject: Help Wanted With Paging Protocol For Alphanumeric Motorolas Date: 19 Jun 1995 20:57:46 GMT Organization: University of Central Florida Can anyone provide some direction with helping me gain access to protocols docs, or programming examples ... My company presently subscribes to a service where we use software to activate our alpha pagers ... but we want to augment the capabilities ourselves, using c++, and other development platforms. Any help or comments would be appreciated. Kalmin ind02299@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu ------------------------------ From: Jose Manuel BARRUTIA Subject: Looking For Research on ATM Networks Date: 19 Jun 1995 08:34:55 GMT Organization: EPFL-DME-IMHEF-COSMASE I'm a Spanish electrical engineer and I'm making a Master on SST (Science, Society and Technology) from the ESST (The European Inter-university Association on Science, Society and Technology) in the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (Lausanne). I must study the social, cultural, economical, etc. implications of the use and introduction of ATM networks in a regional development. In this way I'm interested to obtain as much as possible informations about ATM networks. Not only in technical aspects (There is a lot!) but also about policies, experiences, implications, cultural change, management etc. of the ATM highways. My Master's Thesis is entlited: "Integration of the New Telecommunications Networks, particularly the ATM Strategic Technology, from the Economical and Technological Regional Development of the Basque Country point of view" I would like to request you some informations about this. (Newsgroups, articles, WWW addresses, books, others ...). Do you know other information sources who could help me in my research? Thank you very much. Best regards. Jose Manuel Barrutia E-Mail: barrutia@epfl.ch Swiss Federal Institute of Technology Phone: + 41 21 693 59 03 Mechanical Engineering Department Fax: + 41 21 693 36 46 EPFL-DME-IMHEF-COSMASE 1015 Lausanne (Switzerland) ------------------------------ From: N.M.S. <72164.3302@CompuServe.COM> Subject: Dialogic For Sale / Trade / Needed Date: 19 Jun 1995 08:52:29 GMT Organization: via CompuServe Information Service I have the following for sale: Dialogic D41/B 4-port voice board : $500 obo Dialogic AMX / 81 8x8 conference board : $300 obo I need: a Dialogic MSI/C or New Voice 8/c or Parity's VOS Please somebody say something! ------------------------------ From: bradyi@aloha.com (Bradley Yi) Subject: Wanted: USRobotics V.34 28,800 V.Everything Dual Standard External Date: Sun, 18 Jun 1995 23:23:01 -1000 Organization: FlexNet Inc, HAWAII I would like to buy a used or new USRobotics V.34 28,800 V.Everything Dual Standard External model. It should include all cables, manuals, and software. Preferably clean. Willing to pay around $200, but also negotiable. Thanks. Reply soon for the best offers. =) Bradley Yi bradyi@aloha.com ------------------------------ From: georg@marie.physik.TU-Berlin.DE (Georg Schwarz) Subject: Modem Connection via Cordless Telephone? Feasable? Date: 18 Jun 1995 11:36:11 GMT Organization: Berlin University of Technology I'm looking for a way of establishing a modem connection via a cordless telephone. I'm considering somehow connecting a telephone modem to the cordless phone and then calling another modem with it. Is that feasable? Has anyone already tried something like that? How could the modem be connected to the cordless phone? Would a four-wire (cordless phone) to two-wire (modem) converter, e.g. some manipulated telephone attached in between, work? How fast could one go and which modem protocol could work with such a connection which probably has less bandwidth and more interruptions than a normal phone line connection? Which types of cordless phones (analog, digital) would be suitalbe? Any ideas and suggestions are highly welcome. Georg Schwarz (schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de, kuroi@cs.tu-berlin.de, PGP 2.6ui) Institute for Theoretical Physics +49 30 314-22087 FAX -21130 IRC kuroi Berlin University of Technology http://itp1.physik.tu-berlin.de/~schwarz ------------------------------ From: kass@oeonline.oeonline.com (Jeremie Kass) Subject: Using USR Sportster in UK Date: 19 Jun 1995 09:00:17 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway We would like to dial in to our office network from a hotel in England. We have a USR Sportster 14.4. What adapter plugs do we need for the phone jack in order for this to work? We have all of the power problems taken care of, I believe. Also, using AT&T, what are the chances of us getting true 14.4 speed transatlantic? Thanks for any tips. Jeremie Kass * JPK Computer Consulting * Huntington Woods, MI, USA kass@oeonline.com aa006@detroit.freenet.org jkass@cati.csuf.csufresno.edu ------------------------------ From: James McGovern <75707.1533@CompuServe.COM> Subject: Routers With Builtin Firewalls? Date: 19 Jun 1995 15:28:18 GMT Organization: Command Systems I am posting this for a friend who has email only access. He would like to know what brands of routers have firewall capabilities. He currently knows of Livingston, but would like to know of others. He would also like to be able to receive product information as well. If you could send responses to him, it would be greatly appreciated. His email address is: mcgovej@commandsys.com Certified Powerbuilder Developer Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jun 1995 11:17:28 EDT From: Paul Beit Subject: What Would You Like to See on a WWW Site? Hello TELECOM Digest readers, My name is Paul Beit and I am currently completing my undergraduate at Ryerson Polytechnic University in Telecommunications Technology, with a minor in Internet Communications. I am currently seeking primary information on what an experienced WWW users would like to see in the future on W3 sites. What does a great WWW site of the future offer to the Internauts in terms of content, graphics, interactivity, audio, links, sections, software selections, ect.? Today many of the WWW site are becoming more creative and larger in content, but this area can obviously be greatly improved. What do you want to see? I am currently taking all suggestions (big, and small, mundane, and crazy) to be taken into consideration for use in a WWW research paper, and creation of a site, created form users for users. Please, any information you give will help. You may e-mail your comments and suggestions directly to me at: pbeit@acs.ryerson.ca. Thank you. ------------------------------ From: BGOODIN@UNEX.UCLA.EDU (William R. Goodin) Subject: UCLA Short Course on "Optical Fiber Communications" Date: Mon, 19 Jun 1995 09:55:44 Organization: UCLA Extension On September 26-29, 1995, UCLA Extension will present the short course, "Optical Fiber Communications: Techniques and Applications", on the UCLA campus in Los Angeles. The instructors are Tran V. Muoi, PhD, President, Optical Communication Products, Del Hanson, PhD, Principal Engineer, Hewlett-Packard, and Richard E. Wagner, PhD, District Manager, Bellcore. This course offers a review of optical fiber communications fundamentals, then focuses on state-of-the-art technology and its applications in present and future communication networks. The course begins with the major building blocks of optical fiber communications systems ( fiber and passive components, sources and transmitters, detectors and receivers). Actual design examples of fiber optic links for short-haul and long-haul applications are studied, and recent technological advances in addressing problems due to fiber loss and dispersion are presented. The impact of fiber optic technology on communications is highlighted in the latter half of the course. Recent developments in local and metropolitan area networks to support multimedia traffic (i.e., data, voice, and video) and their evolving architectures and standards are fully covered. The treatment on telecommunications systems includes various technological options for subscriber networks, exchange networks, and the global undersea networks. Network architectures evolving from the traditional telephone and CATV networks are contrasted. Technology trends and directions for realizing the so-called information superhighway are examined as well. Finally, optical networks using wavelength routing and multi-wavelength cross-connects are presented. The course fee is $1295, which includes extensive course materials. For additional information and a complete course description, please contact Marcus Hennessy at: (310) 825-1047 (310) 206-2815 fax mhenness@unex.ucla.edu ------------------------------ From: rghawk@aol.com (RGHawk) Subject: Rolm Upgrade From 9004 to Rolm 9751 Date: 19 Jun 1995 14:00:11 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Reply-To: rghawk@aol.com (RGHawk) I am looking for information about the upgrade procedure From a Rolm 9004 to a Rolm 9751. My understanding is that this is a forklift upgrade and there are some loss of features. My company has about 2250 telephones with two nodes off the existing Rolm. Any information both positive and negative would be useful. I am a little concerned about some of the things I am being told concering this upgrade. GEOF HAWKESWOOD ------------------------------ From: Dalibor Cerar Subject: Telekom Cheating Local Internet Users Date: 19 Jun 1995 09:49:28 +0100 Organization: Demon Internet News Service Slovenia currently has a population of 2M and 15 different area codes. ARNES (Academic and Research NEtwork of Slovenia) has dial-up access to Internet in almost all areas, but users have to call different numbers in different areas. So, they asked Slovenian Telekom to provide an equal number in every area. Now the user has to dial 9744 and he gets connected to nearest dial-up. ARNES was also told that the calls would not be charged more than before. But: Telekom is charging each call to 9744 five to ten times more than it charges the calls to "normal" (different for each area) numbers. Has anything like that happened somewhere else? How did the users respond? If anyone wishes to respond by email: dalibor.cerar@uni-lj.si Dalibor For more information on Slovenia, check out http://www.ijs.si/slo.html [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Here in the USA we have many instances of (for example) 800 numbers which terminate in various places depending on where the call originates. We also have some numbers in, I believe, the 950 series which do this. They are not inexpensive by any means, and the routing by place or time of day does add some cost over and above the regular rate for a call. Whether it is five to ten times more expensive or not I do not know. I doubt it is that much. I would suggest whoever is administering the 9744 thing for your network should meet with someone at the telecom administration and find out exactly how the calls are being rated and billed. It may wind up being less expensive to arrange to forward calls yourself. PAT] ------------------------------ From: normanlo@HK.Super.NET (Mannor) Subject: MCI or Sprint Rate to Asia Date: 19 Jun 1995 07:10:38 GMT Organization: Hong Kong Supernet Can someone in the USA tell me how much it costs calling from USA, through MCI or Sprint, to Asian countries, such as Taiwan, Thailand, and Philipine. Can they reach the secondary cities in these countries? Are they charged the same within that country. Please reply to my email address. Thanks, Norman ------------------------------ From: pcoghlan@Newbridge.COM (Pat Coghlan) Subject: Do You Use DPN-100 Switching Equipment? Date: 19 Jun 1995 15:12:19 GMT Organization: Newbridge Networks Corporation I'm looking to do some compatibility testing between Newbridge X.25 switching equipment and DPN-100 equipment from NT. If you have some surplus DPN-100 equipment in your lab or network, I'd be interested in hearing from you. ------------------------------ From: russell@trussell.pdial.interpath.net (Travis Russell) Subject: New Training Locator Date: Mon, 19 Jun 1995 22:07:08 +0000 Organization: Travis Russell Reply-To: russell@trussell.pdial.interpath.net (Travis Russell) Cool new training locator: http://www.tregistry.com/ttr This new service provides listings of training courses by topic and provider, as well as course descriptions, online registration and links to providers homepages. Kewl stuff! Travis Russell russell@trussell.pdial.interpath.net Author of "Signaling System #7," McGraw-Hill ------------------------------ From: jds99@aol.com (Jds99) Subject: Any Payphone Trend Experts Out There? Date: 19 Jun 1995 22:13:27 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Reply-To: jds99@aol.com (Jds99) If you are aware of trends in payphones (installed base, types, etc) and can help with a few questions beyond the recently posted questionn- aire, please contact me via e-mail here or at jdsmith@mfsmith.com. Thanks, John D. Smith ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jun 1995 23:31:45 EDT From: Stan Schwartz Subject: Last Laugh! Big Brother is Watching You This was forwarded to me from a fellow pervert. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 19 Jun 1995 23:08:10 -0400 From: StuBytes2@aol.com To: stans@panix.com Subject: Big Brother I found this in alt.binaries.pictures.tasteless Subject: We are tracking all U.S. Posters to the newsgroup From: Knty@Gov.net.fbi.com (Mike Long) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 95 19:13:14 GMT Message-ID: <3s4ihr$82h@ixnews1.ix.netcom.com> Attention: All posts to this and other newsgroups dealing in simular subject matter will be tracked and cataloged. E-mail addresses of all U.S. posters are being cataloged. All individuals will be tracked via internet provider and contacted over a 5 year span. This message is being posted as result of a recent bill requiring such. Mike Long FBI Branch: Texas code- 345-444.55.32.1 [TELECOM Digest Pervert Editor's Note: What a crude forgery this is! 'Simular subject matter' ... I wonder if he means 'similar subject matter'? 'gov.net.fbi.com'?? The ederal ureau of nquisition is a branch of the government in Texas? And that number following the phrase 'Texas code' is just a lot of gibberish. I am surprised he did not choose a more creative alias for himself, such as Mike Hunt. As the late, great comedian Jack Benny would have said, "Really, Mary ..." But watch and see: over the next few days the message from Special Agent in Charge of Investigating Perversion and Perversity on Usenet Mike Long will circulate around Usenet, finding its way into many various news- groups. The Usenetters will start squalling and screeching about their freedom of speech; they'll demand that someone do something; the EFF and ACLU will resume sending out their *massive*, *humongous* missives telling everyone to get busy writing to the senators, the president, the head of the FBI, the governor of Texas, etc, sample letters enclosed you can cut and paste if you like. Some Usenetters will actually believe the message is real. So remember, Big Brother is watching YOU ... and he wants you to behave yourself fellow perverts, or 'preverts' as President Johnson once noted. He has a great contest going on: whoever writes the most creative and realistic messages in alt.sex.whatever get an all-expenses-paid trip to the nice summer camp that Big Brother is sponsoring for underprivileged perverts and other Victims of Society deep in the California desert near the Nevada border. You never heard of it? Well, that's because Big Brother keeps it top secret. He does not want those of you who are not winners in the Most Tasteless and Crude message on Usenet contest to be disappointed. Everyone is guarenteed to be a winner some day. And if Big Brother wants a catalog of all USA posters the net, he does not need to make one ... it already exists, called the Internet White Pages. PAT] ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #290 ****************************** Received: from ns1.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa15202; 20 Jun 95 18:57 EDT Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA27235 for telecomlist-outbound; Tue, 20 Jun 1995 10:40:35 -0500 Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA27221; Tue, 20 Jun 1995 10:40:31 -0500 Date: Tue, 20 Jun 1995 10:40:31 -0500 From: TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson) Message-Id: <199506201540.KAA27221@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #291 TELECOM Digest Tue, 20 Jun 95 10:40:00 CDT Volume 15 : Issue 291 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Versit Initiative Issues Specs; Launches WWW Site (Monty Solomon) DMS 10 and Special Calling Features (Greg Tompkins) (PRIish) Bandwidth Management of T1 Channels? (John R. Galloway, Jr.) Faxworks Voice Import (Amnon Sadan) Telecommunication on Power Lines (Reddy Urimindi) Job Opportunity: 8086 Assembly Programmer; Comm Project (Moshe Kreisman) Re: Johnny Mnemonic - Waste of Time, Money (Bryan J. Welch) Re: Johnny Mnemonic - Waste of Time, Money (Drew Smith) Re: Johnny Mnemonic - Waste of Time, Money (Nic Wolff) Re: Johnny Mnemonic - Waste of Time, Money (John Egan) Re: Calling MCI Blacklisted Numbers? (Linc Madison) Re: Calling MCI Blacklisted Numbers? Addition (seen@ripco.com) Re: Mexican Telecom Wiring (Mark J. Cuccia) Re: Will Cable Companies Dominate Internet Access Market? (Clifton Sharp) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of public service systems and networks including Compuserve and America On Line. It is also gatewayed to Usenet where it appears as the moderated newsgroup 'comp.dcom.telecom'. Subscriptions are available to qualified organizations and individual readers. Write and tell us how you qualify: * telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu * The Digest is edited, published and compilation-copyrighted by Patrick Townson of Skokie, Illinois USA. You can reach us by postal mail, fax or phone at: 9457-D Niles Center Road Skokie, IL USA 60076 Phone: 500-677-1616 Fax: 708-329-0572 ** Article submission address only: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu ** Our archives are located at lcs.mit.edu and are available by using anonymous ftp. The archives can also be accessed using our email information service. 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Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 20 Jun 1995 00:24:55 -0400 From: Monty Solomon Subject: Versit Initiative Issues Specs; Lauches WWW Site Reply-To: monty@roscom.COM FYI. Begin forwarded message: Date: Mon, 19 Jun 1995 16:46:21 -0400 From: Jean-Yves Hemlin" For release Tuesday, May 23, 1995 -- Versit(TM), a global initiative formed in November by Apple, AT&T, IBM and Siemens, today announced the open availability of its first specifications intended to promote interoperability among existing and emerging communications and information products. Now available are: 1) The Versit Personal Data Interchange Specification, a common format for exchanging information such as electronic business cards via wired or wireless connections; and 2) The Versit GeoPort(TM) Universal Network Port, a high-speed wired connection and communications architecture for computers, mobile devices and telephones. These specifications are the first of several to be issued by Versit in the areas of personal data interchange, computer-telephony integration, and collaboration. They are openly available without license or royalty fees to help equipment manufacturers and software developers build computers, telephones and other communications and information devices, services and applications that make it easy for users to collaborate and exchange voice, data, images and video across a diversity of platforms. Through these specifications, software developers and equipment manufacturers can gain access to larger markets at reduced development cost. Personal Data Interchange (PDI) The Versit PDI specification provides a cross-platform solution for the exchange of personal information and defines an electronic business card called a Versitcard(TM). With Versitcards, users will be able to electronically exchange such information as name, address, phone number and electronic mail IDs, or even "URLs", the Universal Resource Locators that help people find specific areas on the Internet World Wide Web easily. Using products and applications that incorporate Versitcard, users could, for example, exchange electronic business cards at a meeting and store these Versitcards in their computer or PDA's address book without having to rekey the data. In an integrated computer-telephony environment, users might exchange their Versitcards on the electronic "table" at the start of a desktop video and data conference. Versitcards will be carried in universal electronic "containers" called Bentograms, based on Bento(TM), an object-oriented technology that is the OpenDoc Standard Interchange Format for storage and exchange of data. Devices with more limited processing power such as as organizers, pagers and home answering machines could receive such information via containers called Simplegrams; developers could use them and Bentograms to create other types of applications as well, such as cards holding calendar information that could be exchanged electronically. Device Connectivity and Computer-Telephony Integration Also available today is the hardware specification for the Versit GeoPort computer-telephone connection, which provides up to 200 times the bandwidth of traditional serial ports. As a foundation technology for the integration of personal computers with telephone systems, it allows users access to the full digital capabilities of their PBX systems through their personal computer and provides a superior, dedicated, cross-platform solution for combining voice and real-time multimedia. The Versit GeoPort architecture, based on Apple's GeoPort technology, will allow users to dial phone calls, receive voice mail, access the Internet, transfer files or conduct voice/video/data conferences, using their desktop or mobile computers. GeoPort currently ships on Apple's Power Macintosh systems. All four Versit founders; AOX Inc.; Crystal Semiconductor Corp.; Cypress Research Corp.; Motorola Inc.; SAT Groupe SAGEM and Zilog Inc., have announced support for GeoPort. The hardware volume of the specification is available now, and the software volume will be available this summer. Specifications Available Via World Wide Web Site Both specifications are available now through Versit's new World Wide Web home page on the Internet at http://www.versit.com. This home page will have links to the home pages of the Versit founders, will feature educational columns and answers to frequently asked questions about Versit, and will offer the industry a forum for discussion of interoperability issues. The specifications and information about Versit also can be obtained by calling 1-800-803-6240 (fax: 6241). From outside the U.S., call 201-327-2803 (fax: 4981). To ask questions or receive more information about Versit electronically, send electronic mail to info@versit.com. Through development and promotion of such open, cross-platform specifications, the Versit founders intend to accelerate availability of interoperable products and services from competing vendors. Versit's mission is to publish specifications to address computing and communications interoperability issues, and to make them widely available to the industry. # # # # # (versit is a trademark of Apple, AT&T, IBM and Siemens. All other brand names mentioned are registered trademarks or trademarks of their respective holders, and are hereby acknowledged.) ------------------------------ From: Greg Tompkins Subject: DMS 10 and Special Calling Features Date: 20 Jun 1995 05:08:54 GMT Organization: 4-T Acres I am interested in getting Caller ID in my area, but when I called the phone company they told me that our switch is a DMS 10 and will not support special features such as caller ID. Is it true that DMS 10 is such an antiquated beast? How long has the DMS 10 been around anyway? Thanks, GREG ------------------------------ From: jrg@galloway.sj.ca.us (John R. Galloway, Jr.) Subject: (PRIish) Bandwidth Management of T1 Channels? Date: 20 Jun 1995 03:51:24 GMT Organization: Galloway Research If user sites use PRI in addition to the hub doing so (e.g. an ISP net0 then the number of PRI lins at the hub could be less then 1 per user by only allocating as many B channels as each site currently needs. This seems attractive as long as the latency of one 64K channel is ok and its thorughput you want by going up to 1.472Mbps (23 channels). However even in a common wire center setup (centrex) the cost of the PRI on top of T1 (220+dialing charge) just at the user end is more then the cost of putting a 2nd T1 at the hub for you ($162). So is T1<->T1 for 324 the cheapest high speed telco connection to a hub that shares the same wire center? At $60/BRI pair you get 5 for the same price which comes out to 640K (and 4 BRI's is much more likey to be a supported configuration). Is there any sort of channelization service options that would allow a user T1 to have connections on some set of channels of a hub T1 such that channel allocation and mgt could be done in a similar fashio to PRI? Instead of 2 T1s per user, could this get it down to say 2.1? If that works, can the same be done with T1<->T3? Having the shared T1s at the hub be channels of a T3? internet jrg@galloway.sj.ca.us John R. Galloway, Jr 795 Beaver Creek Way applelink D3413 CEO...receptionist San Jose, CA 95133 Galloway Research (408) 259-2490 v (408) 259-5058 f ------------------------------ From: amnons@actcom.co.il (Amnon Sadan) Subject: FAXWORKS Voice Import Organization: ACTCOM - Internet Services in Israel Date: Tue, 20 Jun 1995 11:38:30 GMT Hello, 1. I've got a BOCA 2400 VOICE/FAX/DAT modem with FAXWORKS. It uses the CIRRUS LOGIC chipset.I want to be able to import a WAV file into the system for use as a greeting. Can anybody help? I know SUPERVOICE supports this feature, but it lacks other things FAXWORKS offers (such as forwarding messages from one mailbox to another). I actually need a translation utility from FAXWORKS VMF format to WAV and the reverse. 2. Is FAXWORKS a reliable package? From my experience those VOICE modems based on CIRRUS LOGIC chipset (and maybe ROCKWELL too) crash the PC quite often. Your experience will be appreceated. Please email me directly. Regards and shalom, Amnon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jun 1995 00:35 EST From: Reddy Urimindi <0006172547@mcimail.com> Subject: Telecommunication on Power Lines Hi, I am interested in knowing the usage power lines for future telecommunication services. Are there any people looking into the subject?. My specific questions are: 1. What kind of services? 2. Technical feasibility? 3. Any commercial coupling devices to power lines? 4. Who are the players? (manufacturers, service providers etc? 5. Any technology trials going on? 6. How to overcome problems since we have transformers in between? 7. Any recent publications?. 8. What does the editor of the Digest think about this technology? Thanks. Reddy Urimindi (urimindi@mcimail.com) [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I don't know much about it. I do know that for quite a long time, a number of years ago, the Chicago Transit Authority operated their telephone network between stations using the electrified 'third rail'. Now they seem to be using mostly UHF radios in the 471 mega- hertz frequency range for communications between the bus drivers and their supervisors and between the subway train motormen, conductors and their supervisors. I can pick them up easily on my scanner since they have about ten channels. But I think the telephones used by the agents in the collection booths on the subway and elevated lines may still be connected over the third rail. It used to be when you called their switchboard (312-MOhawk-4-7200) that the connections sounded normal when speaking to an extension in their office but when you asked to be connected to one of the booths on a subway line or one of the trackside telephones, the connections sounded *awful*. In fact they would not connect outside calls via the switchboard to those lines unless they thought you were an employee or authorized to call those extensions. They were for employee use only and maybe they sounded okay when calling extension to extension, but from the outside via the switchboard the transmission was not very good. PAT] ------------------------------ From: Moshe Kreisman <76752.437@CompuServe.COM> Subject: Job Opportunity: 8086 Assembly Programmer for Comm Project Date: 20 Jun 1995 02:47:43 GMT Organization: via CompuServe Information Service 8086 Assembly Programmer for Serial Communication project. Large Financial Institution is looking for someone who is proficient in writing PC based serial communication interrupt handlers. The candidate is required to take an existing communication library namely ECL (by Essential Communication Software ) and modify / replace the core communications interrupt handler. The ultimate goal is to make this software be able to communicate via modem pools. That requires to convert the method how it communicate with the serial port. At present all communication is done directly to the serial port physical address. The candidate should convert it into an INT 14H mode of communication. If you have the skills required for the above project please send an e-mail to: gauhxw@fnma.com Subject: 8086 Assembly Programmer for Serial Communication project. ------------------------------ From: bryan@davinci.dr.att.com Subject: Re: Johnny Mnemonic - Waste of Time, Money Organization: AT&T Date: Tue, 20 Jun 1995 01:54:20 GMT Hovig Heghinian (hovig@tubman.ai.uiuc.edu) wrote: > Joel Kolstad responded to PAT: >> You're right that it has absolutely nothing to do with the Internet. The >> Internet is still nebulous and unknown enough that movie makers can do >> whatever they want to with it. Heck, witness Seaquest's "Innernet," which >> is a direct rip-off of what sci-fi authors would like the Internet to be. > Both of you failed to follow the first rule of consumption: caveat > emptor; let the buyer beware. > I read this story when it appeared in Omni magazine back ten years > ago, and I tried reading it two or three times, but could never get > into it, and didn't understand all the hype associated with it. That > Omni is probably collecting dust back at Mom's house. Maybe I can > sell it now. =) It took me about five tries to read another Gibson work, Neuromancer. But on the last try, I finished the book. The best comparison I read was that most books are like "Gone with the Wind", where cyberpunk books are more like MTV. Much higher density to detail, totally different style. > William Gibson is a non-tech person who writes about technology in a > philosophical way that seems literarily or poetically palatable. > Translation: he knows nothing, and makes it all up to be dramatic, > like those Gothic, overdramatic Victorians did (e.g., Frankenstein, &c.). > He did not, by his own admission, even know what a disk drive was > until a few years ago, *after* writing the works that made him famous. > This is a view of technology from a non-technologist, written for > non-technologists. His fans don't read Dilbert, and we don't read his > books. =) And there ain't nothing wrong with that. Don't be talking for everyone here. I love Dilbert, but I also like Gibson and Sterling. Not all nerd-types like only hardcore SF books. > You know something is skewed in the universe when Rogert Ebert looks > at Gene Siskel on their weekly review show and yells something like, > "why the hell didn't they just use some satellite transmission with a > sophisticated encryption scheme, something which you can do today, > deliver this data, and end the movie in about two seconds?" I did like that part. The movie reminded me a bit of Demolition Man -- cute, action intense plot, weird characters, not much reality. (Though the Taco Bell part in D.M. really went overboard. :) ) > 'Nuff said! Agreed. Bryan J. Welch, N0SFG -- bryan@drmail.dr.att.com -- (303) 538-7965 AT&T Bell Laboratories, Room 31Y-39, 11900 N. Pecos St, Denver, CO 80234 ------------------------------ From: d3smith@aol.com (D3SMITH) Subject: Re: Johnny Mnemonic - Waste of Time, Money Date: 19 Jun 1995 18:42:43 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Reply-To: d3smith@aol.com (D3SMITH) Mnemonic really was a so-so movie. I am a Gibson fan (based in large part on Neuromancer), so I kind of liked seeing how they interpreted his short story. It seems that they did it by taking parts and pieces of almost all of his stuff and sticking it around a lead character. They left out one of the coolest characters, Molly, and replaced her with Jane who was not so cool. Realistically, they probably would have had a much better movie if they had gone with no-name actors though. Drew Smith Video Information Provider Consulting ------------------------------ From: nicwolff@angel.net (Nic Wolff) Subject: Re: Johnny Mnemonic - Waste of Time, Money Date: Mon, 19 Jun 1995 23:50:22 -0500 Organization: Angel Networks, Inc. And of course we'll all rush out to see the forthcoming "Johnny Colonic", about a courier in a dystopian future who carries corporate data on paper tape stuffed up his butt ... [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Uh, I beg your pardon? PAT] ------------------------------ From: jegan@crl.com (John Egan) Subject: Re: Johnny Mnemonic - Waste of Time, Money Date: 20 Jun 1995 00:33:22 -0700 Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access (415) 705-6060 [Login: guest] I liked it. I found it entertaining and thought that it reflected the content and attitudes of Gibson's writing. All in all, it was one of the more enjoyable 'chase/explosion' movies that I've seen lately. I mean if you compare it to 'True Lies' or 'Demolition Man' ... > You're right that it has absolutely nothing to do with the Internet. ... Well ... It isn't the Internet ... It's 'The Matrix' ... Kinda like comparing my old Timex 1000 to my present Pentium. And yes! It is entertainment not fact ... > -- I was disappointed that the cause of the sickness was never really given > other than "all this technology." Yeah, right, what in the world does that > mean? We should all go back and live in caves? I think the idea was that there are environmental influences that affect us more and more as technology impinges on our lives. In essence this would appear to be an expansion of 'envirnmental allergies'. People that can't take the formalin in insulation, get sick off paint fumes etc ... and have to live in sterile natural surrounds ... A couple of major flaws in the book/movie are : - Memory is not stored serially in the brain. Downloading information into a localized portion of the mind doesn't hack it ... - Kinda hard to imagine that if technology is ** so ** detrimental and pervasive that they'd be able to crank out a miracle cure that could be stored on a disk ... ... But I still liked it ... Too bad they didn't have a 'Molly' in the flick instead of 'Jane' ... jegan@crl.com [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: You're not the only person responding who lamented the absence of Molly. Just Plain Jane didn't cut it huh? PAT] ------------------------------ From: lincmad@netcom.com (Linc Madison) Subject: Re: Calling MCI Blacklisted Numbers? Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 1995 08:07:08 GMT Back in 1980-81, Sprint only had calling cards, and with your calling card you got a little booklet which listed the local access numbers and the prefixes in each of the couple dozen metropolitan areas you could dial into. You couldn't call Binghamton, Modesto, Peoria or Pensacola, but you could dial to New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, or Miami. I also remember a few road trips in that era, checking on the map to see how far to the next city I could call from. Sprint certainly didn't engage in blacklisting of countries at that point, since it was still purely domestic. I don't remember anything about discriminating on giving out the cards, but I didn't start with Sprint until 1982, when they added Princeton and Trenton, New Jersey, to their access lists. Linc Madison * San Francisco, California * LincMad@Netcom.com ------------------------------ From: seen@ripco.com (seen) Subject: Re: Calling MCI Blacklisted Numbers? Addition Organization: Ripco Internet BBS Chicago Date: Tue, 20 Jun 1995 07:46:03 GMT In addition to my last post -- I am calling from Germany and had the chance to use several MCI calling cards. No card would allow me to call certain numbers, like for example 716-655-1110, 201-345-4315, 313-383-2116, etc. Also European numbers are blacklisted, but for most countries I just had to add one digit to the number, like for example +49 54614654 is blacklisted, but when I add a 2 or any other digit +49 54614654-2 and dial it right thru the MCI computer, it will work. That won't work for US numbers as MCI only accepts ten digit numbers. These numbers are BBS lines, but I also had voice numbers being blacklisted, and one rumour came thru to me, that MCI would also not sell calling cards to people whose Telephone Number is blacklisted. So I can't call *any* number. I dont know on how MCI choses if they blacklist a number or not, but if its fraudulent calling, how could the owner of the line know someone is calling him by stolen calling cards? They just blacklist his number and then, when his Grandma from Europe tries to call him with her MCI card, she wont get thru. This can't be legal what MCI is doing. Sorry for my bad English, seen@ripco.com [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Is Grandma a phreak also? I guess MCI figures that the likelyhood of Grandma in Europe having an MCI card and wanting to use it to call her grandson the USA phreak ('such a good boy, and so smart with computers!' she would say) is little or non- existent. And if it happens, it happens. Grandmas are supposed to suffer and sacrifice for their grandchildren, right? Do the proprietors of phreak BBS lines know the origin and nature of their incoming traffic? Do they have many German grandmothers calling them? I'll let you decide. In the USA, the telcos are required to provide service to all *qualified* applicants for same. In this context, 'qualified' means the applicant has the ability and *willingness* to pay for the services rendered. They are not required to extend service to persons found to be unwilling to pay. But -- and this is an important catch -- I believe it is of questionable legality to blacklist entire countries unless they are saying that all the people in a given country commit fraud, etc. They can deny service to a person of any ethnic origin or background based on that person's specific history, but not to everyone of that ethnic origin. Can service be denied to the recipient of a call based on the actions of the calling party? Well, telco's answer is 'we are not denying service to the called party, we are denying service to the calling party'. The fact that in telephone communications, unlike say, purchasing merchandise in a market with a stolen credit card, it takes two to tango is irrelevant. The service is deemed to be sold to the originator of the traffic, not the recipient. If no one calls you, your phone does not ring. This does not mean telco is somehow discriminating against *you*; its just how the system operates. I think somewhere they have tariffs on file which do allow specific remedies in cases of chronic fraud traffic. Let me ask you this: are you able to get through to Ripco here in the USA or are they blocked also? ... While I object strenuously to the telcos blacklisting of entire neighborhoods in the USA and entire countries elsewhere, I don't have a lot of sympathy in situations where phreaking and phraud calling is rampant. Tell Grandma I said hello. PAT] ------------------------------ From: Mark J. Cuccia Subject: Re: Mexican Telecom Wiring Date: 20 Jun 1995 12:16:27 GMT Organization: Tulane University jws@hpfcla.fc.hp.com (John Schmidt) wrote: > I'll be spending about a week in Mexico this summer, and will be taking > a laptop/modem combination for connections from inside Mexico to > destinations both inside and outside the country. I've a few questions: (snip) > 4. Are there any "standard" dialing conventions such as "9" for > outside line, "1" before long distance numbers, etc.? Mexico City (and possibly all or most of Mexico) uses a set of '9X' codes for Toll, Special Billing Toll (Collect, Person, third-party, Charge Card), US/Canada Toll, International, and other services (information, etc). I do not know what their standard PBX outside line code is. These 9X codes are used on regular POTS lines. These codes are published (in Spanish, of course) in the front of the directory. Sorry, but I don't have the actual list of 9X code assignments in front of me, and I'm not sure of how a North American (AT&T) Card is used for intra-Mexico calls. Mark J. Cuccia mcuccia@law.tulane.edu (504) UNiversity 5-5954 (Work, tel) (504) UNiversity 5-5917 (Work, fax) (504) CHestnut 1-2497 (Tel, home, rolls to cellular/voicemail) ------------------------------ From: clifto@indep1.chi.il.us (Clifton T. Sharp) Subject: Re: Will Cable Companies Dominate Internet Access Market? Organization: as little as possible Date: Tue, 20 Jun 1995 02:16:56 GMT In article Michael Wilshire writes: > Given the large number of cable companies who are reported to be > trialling cable modem technology, I wondered whether other Internet > Service Providers can be viable in the long term. These modems are > reported to offer speeds of between 500kbps to 10Mbps, which is Given the large number of cable companies who have: * poor quality RF distribution amplifiers * poor quality, weather-beaten coaxial cable * poor quality ingress installations * poor quality production equipment * poor quality production methods (i.e., bozos who play with all the shiny buttons and disrupt programming) * very, very intermittent service * prices out of proportion to services delivered (even if they were delivered intact and continuously) I suspect that I'd keep a line open to a real ISP even if they gave it away, and turn it down entirely if it cost over $20 per month. Cliff Sharp Never get into fights with ugly people. WA9PDM They have nothing to lose. clifto@indep1.chi.il.us --The Fourth Law of Reality ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #291 ****************************** Received: from delta.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa27894; 21 Jun 95 6:44 EDT Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA13911 for telecomlist-outbound; Tue, 20 Jun 1995 22:22:12 -0500 Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA13903; Tue, 20 Jun 1995 22:22:10 -0500 Date: Tue, 20 Jun 1995 22:22:10 -0500 From: TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson) Message-Id: <199506210322.WAA13903@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #292 TELECOM Digest Tue, 20 Jun 95 22:22:00 CDT Volume 15 : Issue 292 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson 800 FCC Order, and 888 Implementation (Judith Oppenheimer) 800 Numbers and Smaller Carriers (Jeff Buckingham) Re: Telecom Decency Act Passes Senate 84-16 (Joel Upchurch) Re: How Will Local Competition Infrastructure be Done? (Barry Margolin) Re: How Will Local Competition Infrastructure be Done? (Frank Atkinson) Re: Question: Two Phone Lines on Three Wires; is it Possible? (Mike Curtis) Re: Question: Two Phone Lines on Three Wires; is it Possible? (S. Forrette) Re: Modem Connection via Cordless Telephone? Feasable? (Brian Cole) How Will RBOCs Carry Long Distance: as Resellers? (Bob Stone) For Sale: Walker Marathon KSU and Phones (Brian M. Monroe) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of public service systems and networks including Compuserve and America On Line. 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Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Judith Oppenheimer Date: Tue, 20 Jun 1995 11:41:41 -0400 Subject: 800 FCC Order, and 888 Implementation AT&T has asked the FCC to refine the order by instituting a "market share" allocation plan, in which the DSMI would allocate a maximum of 28 thousand 800 numbers per week among the RespOrgs, in proportion to the percentage of 800 numbers each RespOrg held in "working" or "reserved" status during a period of time specified by the FCC. Pending feedback from other RespOrgs, the FCC has agreed to pursue this idea. Regarding 888 Implementation, my firm was present at, and participated in last week's FCC 888 implementation meeting. The FCC Order was just one of many significant issues addressed. Interested parties can call this office -- 212 684-7210 -- and request our full written report, available for $200. As you are aware, we are not in the habit of soliciting this forum for business. In this instance, we hope to recoup our prep, legal, attendance, expense, analysis and reporting costs. Judith Oppenheimer Interactive CallBrand(TM) email: Producer@pipeline.com phone: 212 684-7210, fax: 212 684-2714 Bridging the Gap Between Telecom & Marketing [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: And I know your expenses to date in covering this have been great. You've probably got several people on your payroll involved in just this one project alone. Please continue to keep all of us advised as things develop. PAT] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jun 95 21:14:16 -0700 From: jbuckingham@wynd.net (Jeff Buckingham) Subject: 800 Numbers and Smaller Carriers Reply-To: jbucking@callamerica.com One impotant point to remember is that the FCC limit on 800 numbers is the same for all RESP ORGs no matter what size. This means smaller carriers have no shortage of numbers since many of us never come close to 200 new numbers a week. Make sure to check with smaller carriers if you are having trouble getting a new number. You should be able to find a smaller carrier in your area by checking the yellow pages under "Long Distance Telephone Companies" jbucking@callamerica.com Jeff Buckingham Call America, San Luis Obispo, CA 805-545-5100 (MyLine voice or fax) [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Actually Jeff, you should not be so modest and generous in telling people to look around for carriers. Your own product there, 'My Line' is one of the best deals available. In fact it has been awhile since I mentioned it, so I will give a brief summary today. If you subscribe to MyLine (this is one of the carriers I use for 800 service) you get: A personal 800 number with programmable call forwarding built right in. You program in three locations or numbers you want the system to use to try and reach you. You change these at will. When someone dials your 800 number they hear a recording in your voice saying whatever you want to say and asking them to please hold while their call is transferred to you. The system then rings the first number you gave, and if there is no answer it moves on to the next number. A third number is for your 'priority calls' and if someone who knows to do this dials your 800 number and punches in your programmable two digit 'priority code' then they are routed to the priority number instead of the usual numbers in your list. You can also make outgoing calls via your 800 number. When you call in, you enter your password right over your outgoing greeting and the system changes to administrative mode. You get the prompt 'MyLine is ready', and you can then make outgoing calls all over the world; you can reprogram your list of numbers to be searched; you can check voicemail if you have that additional option on your account; you can request callbacks for international dialing purposes; wake up and reminder calls, etc. I often times use MyLine for a wakeup call when I need to get up early in the morning for some reason. It rings me back at the time specified and waits for me to punch in my password to acknowledge the callback. MyLine also has 'virtual call waiting' and three way calling. If you are on a call (either inbound that you received or outbound that you originated via your 800 number) then if another call should arrive and MyLine knows you are on the system, it will give you a call-waiting beep. You punch digits to hold one call and answer the other. You can also originate conference calls at no additional charge -- essentially three-way calling -- when using MyLine by putting one outgoing call on hold while getting someone else on the line, etc. Overall, MyLine is the best personal 800 number service I have found, and I have been a satisfied customer for more than a year now. I forget how much I pay, but its only about ten dollars per month plus the cost of the calls in and out. Send email to Jeff (jbucking@callamerica.com) to get a very detailed file about MyLine and how to subscribe. Typically they have you turned on in a day or two. PAT] ------------------------------ From: joel@civ.net (Joel Upchurch) Subject: Re: Telecom Decency Act Passes Senate 84-16 Date: Tue, 20 Jun 95 13:07:39 GMT I went over to thomas.loc.gov (a great web site BTW) to look at this bill. I've appended a copy of sec. 402 which I think will be interesting to readers of this newsgroup. I didn't include all of S.652, because it's over 200k. I wanted to make a few comments about it. > (B) makes a telephone call or utilizes a telecommunications device, > whether or not conversation or communications ensues, without > disclosing his identity and with intent to annoy, abuse, threaten, > or harass any person at the called number or who receives the > communication;' and I wonder what effect this will have on anonymous posting? >(D) makes repeated telephone calls or repeatedly initiates communication > with a telecommunications device, during which conversation or > communication ensues, solely to harass any person at the called number > or who receives the communication; or'; Some people's Usenet postings might be construed as violating this. Filling up someone's mailbox with repeated messages almost certainly would be. > `(ii) purposefully makes available (directly or by recording device), > any indecent communication for commercial purposes which is > available to any person under 18 years of age or to any other > person without that person's consent, regardless of whether > the maker of such communication placed the call; or'; and If I was an Internet Access Provider, I think I would consider not selling an account to anyone who was under 18. It sure would a lot easier than trying to shut down everything on the net that might be construed as indecent. Just say that the whole net is rated X and if parents let their kids use their Internet account, it's their fault. I wonder what the effect of the word 'purposefully' will have on Prodigy and moderated newsgroups? Will it be safer to not try to monitor the traffic? I also wonder what 'commercial purposes' means? Is it okay to let kids have pornography as long as you don't charge them for it? -------------------------------- S.652 Telecommunications Competition and Deregulation Act of 1995 (Reported in the Senate) SEC. 402. OBSCENE OR HARASSING USE OF TELECOMMUNICATIONS FACILITIES UNDER THE COMMUNICATIONS ACT OF 1934. (a) Offenses- Section 223 (47 U.S.C. 223) is amended-- (1) in subsection (a)(1)-- (A) by striking out `telephone' in the matter above subparagraph (A) and inserting `telecommunications device'; (B) by striking out subparagraph (A) and inserting the following: `(A) knowingly-- `(i) makes, creates, or solicits, and `(ii) initiates the transmission of, any comment, request, suggestion, proposal, image, or other communication which is obscene, lewd, lascivious, filthy, or indecent;'; (C) by striking out subparagraph (B) and inserting the following: `(B) makes a telephone call or utilizes a telecommunications device, whether or not conversation or communications ensues, without disclosing his identity and with intent to annoy, abuse, threaten, or harass any person at the called number or who receives the communication;' and (D) by striking out subparagraph (D) and inserting the following: `(D) makes repeated telephone calls or repeatedly initiates communication with a telecommunications device, during which conversation or communication ensues, solely to harass any person at the called number or who receives the communication; or'; (2) in subsection (a)(2), by striking `telephone' and inserting `telecommunications' and by striking `section' and inserting `subsection'; (3) in subsection (b)(1)-- (A) by striking subparagraph (A) and inserting the following: `(A) within the United States, by means of a telecommunications device-- `(i) makes, creates, or solicits, and `(ii) purposefully makes available, any obscene communication for commercial purposes to any person, regardless of whether the maker of such communication placed the call or initiated the communication; or'; and (B) in subparagraph (B), by striking `telephone facility' and inserting `telecommunications facility'; and (4) in subsection (b)(2)-- (A) by striking subparagraph (A) and inserting the following: `(A) within the United States, by means of telephone or telecommunications device, `(i) makes, creates, or solicits, and `(ii) purposefully makes available (directly or by recording device), any indecent communication for commercial purposes which is available to any person under 18 years of age or to any other person without that person's consent, regardless of whether the maker of such communication placed the call; or'; and (B) in subparagraph (B), by striking `telephone facility' and inserting in lieu thereof `telecommunications facility'. (b) Penalties- Section 223 (47 U.S.C. 223) is amended-- (1) by striking out `$50,000' each place it appears and inserting `$100,000'; and (2) by striking `six months' each place it appears and inserting `2 years'. (c) Prohibition on Provision of Access- Section 223(c)(1) (47 U.S.C. 223(c)(1)) is amended by striking `telephone' and inserting `telecommunications device'. (d) Additional Defenses- Section 223 (47 U.S.C. 223) is amended by adding at the end the following: ---------------------- Joel Upchurch @ Upchurch Computer Consulting joel@civ.net 718 Galsworthy Ave. Orlando, FL 32809-6429 phone (407) 859-0982 ------------------------------ From: Barry Margolin Subject: Re: How Will Local Competition Infrastructure be Done? Date: 20 Jun 1995 11:21:02 -0400 Organization: BBN Planet Corporation, Cambridge, MA In article Eric Hunt writes: > I've been very interested in the emergence of competition for our > local phone business. The only question I've not seen answered is > this: > How will the infrastructure be managed? Who will control it? > Will there be an exponential explosion in the number of overhead wires > as each company installs their own? Some competitors may already have their own wires. For instance, if a cable TV company decides to enter the phone market, they would probably use their existing cable plant for the infrastructure, perhaps upgrading the trunks to fiber optics in order to handle the increased load. > Will the current phone company remain "protector" of the infrastructure > and simply resell capacity? That's seems probable to me as well. Other possibilities are wireless phone services competing with local carriers. These can probably be priced less expensively than mobile wireless phones, since they don't have to worry about phones moving from cell to cell. Barry Margolin BBN Planet Corporation, Cambridge, MA barmar@{bbnplanet.com,near.net,nic.near.net} Phone (617) 873-3126 - Fax (617) 873-5124 ------------------------------ From: fratkins@freenet.columbus.oh.us (Frank Atkinson) Subject: Re: How Will Local Competition Infrastructure be Done? Date: 20 Jun 1995 10:17:15 -0400 Organization: The Greater Columbus Freenet Eric Hunt (hunt@austin.metrowerks.com) wrote: > I've been very interested in the emergence of competition for our > local phone business. The only question I've not seen answered is > this: > How will the infrastructure be managed? Who will control it? Whoever owns it will "control it". The phone company their wires, the cable companies their cables; there are already fights over conduit space under the streets and in buildings, apartment complexes, etc. The regulators will have to lay down some ground rules since a pole does have a practical limit on the number of attachements and cable loads. > Will there be an exponential explosion in the number of overhead wires > as each company installs their own? There already are places where there are two cable companies a phone company and the power company sharing the pole. Hopefully fiber trunks will mean smaller lighter cables or the poles are going to get a lot bigger. > Will the current phone company be forced to GIVE capacity to the incoming > competitors, much like IPPs are going to get an almost free ride on the > transmission facilities of the power companies? It will be for a charge. Ameritech has already split into business groups, customer services, network services, etc. So the even the vestige of the regulated Baby Bell (the one who used to be the only phone company) will be purchasing services from network services, and renting repair services from consumer servies, etc. (The one whose going to make out is the one who sells velcro attached signs for the trucks, maybe a bus sign that can change as they drive!) It isn't inconceivable that some entreprenuer could wire an area and charge others to use their access. (This might work in rural and less dense areas, maybe a township income opportunity, might be way for a city to make some bucks if they owned some wire. Although in Columbus, Ohio a company said they were going to fiber an affluent neighborhood and both Warner and Ameritech said they wouldn't consider using someone else's wire, it seems a little short sighted. Maybe a carrier who doesn't have that capital investment can provide service cheaper and make the biggies rethink their position if the competition gets too much. Frank Atkinson fratkins@freenet.columbus.oh.us or frank@hannah.com I think therefore I am, I think? ------------------------------ From: wd6ehr@kaiwan.com (Mike Curtis) Subject: Re: Question: Two Phone Lines on Three Wires; is it Possible? Date: 19 Jun 1995 22:11:20 -0700 Organization: KAIWAN Internet (310-527-4279,818-756-0180,909-785-9712) Ch. Buckley (ceb@netcom.com) wrote: > I was looking in to adding a second line to a house build in the early > 1960's in GTE-land in NC. The house is wired throughout with three-wire > (not three-pair) cable, i. e. red-green-yellow. Line number one uses red > and green. > My question is, is it possible to get GTE to run a second line down > the yellow, using one of the previous wires as a common return? No -- especially if you plan on moving data down either of them. Telephone lines depend on the runs being balanced. This cancels out induced currents due to common mode rejection. Sharing one wire will unbalance the line. There are other problems as well, e.g. the phone company will likely generate trouble tickets if it detects "crossed lines", which is what this would amount to. If you want to invest some heavy bucks in a carrier system, you can run two lines on a single pair -- but you'll come out an awful lot cheaper getting someone to install the right cable. If you have conduits in place, it should be a reasonably simple job. However, if this is for a house, I can virtually guarantee the cable was not run through conduit. Typically, it's run through walls and tied around nails, preventing pulling of new cable. If Ma Bell doesn't do work to your specs, you could either go with a third party installer (interconnect), or hire a friend who has Telco experience. If you want a particularly neat job, you may require an electrician to rip out walls and install conduit. Or you could do it yourself. Radio Shack has a book on home telephone installation. I've seen some units that send the telephone signal through the power lines using radio frequencies, but my experience with this technology (I work with data devices that use the power line to communicate -- or I should say, that TRY TO use it :-) has not been favorable. Any device that plugs into the wall that has a capacitive input (such as line conditioners we all use for our computers) will bleed this signal off. If you buy a new electrical device with a capacitive AC input, it will kill the RF signal. Also, to be effective, they MUST be on the same electrical circuit breaker. I would never consider one for my home or business. Mike Curtis wd6ehr@kaiwan.com ------------------------------ From: stevef@wrq.com (Steve Forrette) Subject: Re: Question: Two Phone Lines on Three Wires; is it Possible? Date: 20 Jun 1995 01:46:38 GMT Organization: Walker Richer & Quinn In article , tkc@netins.net says... > They could run what is called "subscriber line carrier"; that's running > two lines down one wire. They put a little box in your back room that > is self powered off the line and it will divide the two signals ... > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I've heard -- and people have written > here -- that those things, sometimes called 'slick' or SLC are just > horrendous when it comes to handling data. Just awful. PAT] I had one of these from US West about three years ago. It was called an "AML", presumably for Analog Multiplex Line or something similar, although I've also heard them referred to as SLC-1's (not to be confused with the venerable SLC-96). At the time I had a Hayes V-Series 9600 baud modem, and it worked perfectly over either the main line or the frequency-shifted line on the AML. The throughput and reliability seemed to be just like a regular non-multiplexed line. I can't speak about 14.4 or 28.8 one way or the other. The only thing I didn't like about the AML is that the on-hook voltage for the second line was considerably less than 48VDC, so the "in use" lamps on all of my phones always showed the second line as "in use." Other than that, it worked normally. Steve Forrette, stevef@wrq.com ------------------------------ From: Brian Cole Subject: Re: Modem Connection via Cordless Telephone? Feasable? Date: 20 Jun 1995 10:31:56 +0100 Reply-To: Brian@peacock.demon.co.uk In article: georg@marie.physik.TU-Berlin.DE (Georg Schwarz) writes: > I'm looking for a way of establishing a modem connection via a > cordless telephone. I'm considering somehow connecting a telephone > modem to the cordless phone and then calling another modem with it. > Is that feasable? Has anyone already tried something like that? How > could the modem be connected to the cordless phone? Would a four-wire > (cordless phone) to two-wire (modem) converter, e.g. some manipulated > telephone attached in between, work? How fast could one go and which > modem protocol could work with such a connection which probably has > less bandwidth and more interruptions than a normal phone line > connection? Which types of cordless phones (analog, digital) would be > suitalbe? Any ideas and suggestions are highly welcome. There are two mechanisms available for cordless modem operation; D channel data similar to GSM (not quite what you intended but achieves the same result), or a standard modem operating in the audio band. You don't mention a specific cordless phone technology, but there has been a significant amount of work done in CT2 to test the viability of audio band modems operating over the air. The limit to the baud rate is determined by the ADPCM sampling rate rather than the air interface. Provided you have a reliable RF link (range, space diversity at base station, environment will affect this) you can sustain a 9600 baud link with no problem. CT2 also has the capability of transferring data in the D channel like GSM, but faster (I think approximatly 28Kbaud). There are several companies offering CT2 cordless modem products now. Try contacting COM1 in Bordeaux France, or Digicom in Belgium. Also I have seen a cordless modem attachment for an Apple PowerBook. DECT also uses ADPCM coding for the B channel so should give similar results in a good RF environment. One point to watch is that V22 modems will suffer severely if the base station does not suppress sidetone to an analogue line, but then who uses V22 modems nowadays? :). Brian@peacock.demon.co.uk ------------------------------ From: Bob Stone Subject: How Will RBOCs Carry Long Distance: As Resellers? Date: 20 Jun 1995 13:04:28 GMT Organization: JT&T, Inc. When the former Baby Bells, GTE, utilites, and cable companies begin to offer long distance service as IXCs, how will they actually connect customers outside their regions. Will they become resellers, or will they actually trench fiber across the country? ------------------------------ From: bmonroe@shell.portal.com (Brian M. 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Monroe Enhance Cable Technology 2035 OToole Ave San Jose CA 95131-1301 1-800-343-2425 X312 bmonroe@ect.com : Internet e-mail ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #292 ****************************** Received: from delta.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa28358; 21 Jun 95 7:57 EDT Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA14882 for telecomlist-outbound; Tue, 20 Jun 1995 23:25:17 -0500 Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA14872; Tue, 20 Jun 1995 23:25:14 -0500 Date: Tue, 20 Jun 1995 23:25:14 -0500 From: TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson) Message-Id: <199506210425.XAA14872@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #293 TELECOM Digest Tue, 20 Jun 95 23:25:00 CDT Volume 15 : Issue 293 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Disrupted Calls and NO Call Waiting (Glenn Foote) Unknown 800 Number (Scott Bobo) Re: Telecommunication on Power Lines (Nigel Allen) Re: FCC Acts to Conserve 800 Numbers (Bob Schwartz) Help Finding Daily Rental of Beepers/Cell Phones (Arnette Schultz) Re: Manual Exchanges (Mark Cuccia) Re: Telecom Finland to Use DCS 1800 to Back up GSM (Yves Blondeel) Re: Videoconferencing Experiences (J. Brad Hicks) Details About FBI.COM (James E. Bellaire) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of public service systems and networks including Compuserve and America On Line. It is also gatewayed to Usenet where it appears as the moderated newsgroup 'comp.dcom.telecom'. Subscriptions are available to qualified organizations and individual readers. 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Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: glnfoote@freenet.columbus.oh.us (Glenn Foote) Subject: Disrupted Calls and NO Call Waiting Date: 20 Jun 1995 16:34:38 -0400 Organization: The Greater Columbus Freenet Data Interruption without Call Waiting: Recently some unusual events have occurred on one of my lines. I have a 'special' line that rings directly to my desk in my study at home. There is no other appearance of this line anywhere else. Sometimes I use this line for modem access. Very few people (less than twelve) have been given this number, and there is NO call waiting or Caller ID on this line. The call waiting and caller ID status has been verified by the TelCo and by my own tests. In (now numerous) instances, when I have been using the line for modem communications, I have had the call 'dropped', ie; "NO CARRIER" message on the communications software. This is almost always followed, within three or four minutes by a voice call from one of the twelve people who have access. When asked, they say that they DID try to call about three to five minutes ago, but got a "busy signal". This does not happen in every case, but the statistical evidence of their previous call causing a disruption of my data call is overwhelming IMHO. Here is the tricky part; these problem calls come (for the most part) from government locations. Nothing sinister, just routine military (and some other agency) locations and bases throughout the US. There are a few overseas calls (but I don't know how they are introduced into the US telephone network). There does not seem to be a problem when the number is called from other locations, and/or local numbers (ie; my other line). My first thoughts were that the "Operator" is testing the number for a true "busy" condition, or some kind of similar test (why I couldn't guess) instituted in/by/for the military switching equipment connected to the network. This got shot down (I think) in that some (not all) of the calls are from pay (coin) phones at the military base(s), and I am told by the person calling that the "Operator" was not involved. [Although just how a pay phone long distance call would not involve an "Operator" (or like circuit) is somewhat beyond me.] If anyone can produce a reasonable guess as to what is happening, I would be interested in knowing. I'm not sure that there is a "fix", but curiosity overwhelms me. Glenn "Elephant" Foote ...... glnfoote@freenet.columbus.oh.us ------------------------------ From: sbobo@ppg01.sc.hp.com (Scott Bobo) Subject: Unknown 800 Number Date: 20 Jun 1995 22:46:27 GMT Organization: Hewlett Packard Hi - I'm looking for some help here. I got a postcard the other day that had my name handwritten on the front and the following message printed on the back: It is our responsibility to let you know about your current account status. Please call 1-800-769-3576 ext XXXXX No need to include the actual extension, I guess. Anyway, I got an AT&T operator interested enough to do some looking and tell me that the service is provided by LDDS Metromedia (in San Antonio). I called LDDS and before I could get more than a couple of words out about why I was calling, the person on the other end said something about how she couldn't give me the name of the company, that I would need a subpeona to get the information, and that I would have to file with my local District Attorney if I wanted to press charges for harassment or fraud. I wasn't all that worried before I called, just curious as to what it was all about. Now I'm worried. Any clue as to what this might be all about? When I called the number and the extension, a recording came on after I entered the extension and said "Thank you. This completes your call." No information as to what it was about. Thanks for any advice/assistance. Scott sbobo@ppg01.sc.hp.com [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Okay, what happened was this. Some company is trying to contact you. Most likely a collection agency or an attorney for a creditor, although it could be for other reasons. Do you have a non-published number? In any event, *someone* is trying to get ahold of you and has been unable to get your phone number. The number you called is a service designed to help root out unlisted numbers from individuals who are tricked into calling the 800 number. They have real-time ANI on the line. When you called, your number was captured in their database. The 'extension number' you were asked to punch in was nothing more than a control number they used to match the ANI they received with the person who made the call. Let's say your postcard said to punch in 'extension 12345' when you called. They know that 12345 was assigned to your name at your address, and now they have your phone number to go with it. You'll no doubt be hearing from them soon; probably a phone call demanding payment for whatever it is you owe. Clever way of getting non-published numbers, eh? Now it is true you might have been calling from a work phone or a neigh- bor's house or something like that; none the less they now have in their file a phone number where *someone* (if not yourself) is likely to know who you are and how to reach you. I read about this service sometime ago, but I forget the fellow's name who runs it. He offers to obtain non-published numbers for his clients at some fee per number obtained. You send him the name and address of the person whose number you want. He sends out his postcard asking that person to call to the 'extension number' given. He then provides his clients with the results; the ANI obtained when you call and provide him with the requested control number for match-up purposes. He says his success rate is pretty high in obtaining non-pub residence phones since most people out of curiosity want to find out who it is and think nothing of simply dialing the number from their home phone. After all, they come in from work each night, check the mail they received, and go to the phone and dial the number, just as he asked them to do. I think he charges his clients about ten dollars for each number thus obtained; it costs him about a dollar to print up and mail the postcard and about thirty cents to accept your phone call on his 800 line. By now you may have already received that ugly phone call you thought you would never receive since the creditor did not have your new home phone number, eh? Well surprise, you fell in their booby trap. Take care about calling back places just because some postcard comes in the mail saying you have to call, or telling you that you have won a prize of some sort. Those folks are non-pub number specialists. PAT] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jun 1995 18:41:00 -0400 From: ndallen@io.org (Nigel Allen) Subject: Re: Telecommunication on Power Lines Reddy Urimind asked about telecommunications on power lines, and Patrick Townson added some explanations about telephone communications over the third rail of the Chicago Transit Authority's transit system. In some sparsely-settled rural areas of the U.S., telephone service was provided using existing electric power cables. I'm not sure how this was done, or whether it is is still a common practice. (This is not the same as having telephone cables and power lines attached to the same poles.) Electric companies have developed extensive internal telecommunications networks and, in some jurisdictions, have sold telecommunications capacity surplus to their own needs to telecommunications carriers or to end users. I understand that the United Kingdom has a number of electric companies that provide telephone service through separate subsidiaries, for example. These electric company telecommunications networks use the right-of-way of the electric companies, but do not use the electric transmission cables themselves. Most of the networks are fiber optic, I would assume. Hydro-Quebec, a government-owned electric utility, once owned half of Sotel Inc., a telephone company serving the James Bay area of Quebec where the company was building a large hydro-electric project. Hydro-Quebec's half-interest was subsequently sold to Telebec, a subsidiary of Bell Canada Enterprises, which had owned the other half of Sotel. Some Canadian municipalities provide both electrical and telephone service to their residents, and Fortis, an electrical utility in Newfoundland, owns part of Unitel Communications' Newfoundland operations. Nigel Allen 52 Manchester Avenue, Toronto, Ontario M6G 1V3, Canada Internet: ndallen@io.org http://www.io.org/~ndallen Telephone: (416) 535-8916 ------------------------------ From: bob@bci.nbn.com (Bob Schwartz) Subject: Re: FCC Acts to Conserve 800 Numbers Date: Tue, 20 Jun 1995 17:26:20 -1000 Organization: BCI In article , Judith Oppenheimer wrote: > On June 13, 1995, AT&T, MCI, Sprint, LDDS Worldcom and other Resp Orgs > across the country were notified that as of June 14, 1995, 12 AM, the > FCC ordered the 800 National Database to limit the number of 800 > numbers a Resp Org can assign collectively to reserve or working > status, to two hundred (200) per week. > Additionally, the total amount of reserve numbers cannot exceed 3% of > the Resp Org's working numbers. The prior limit was 15%, and not > surprisingly, most Resp Orgs are well over the limit. > Additionally, the "aging process" is reduced to four months, measuring > the four month period from the date when a Resp Org returns an 800 > number to the SMS database and marks the number "disconnected." > Finally, all 800 numbers currently assigned to the "transition" state > are ordered returned to the 800 number "pool" immediately. > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: It sounds like people with 800 numbers > may soon have a very valuable commodity by virtue of having an 800 > number. Judith, when you get further information or memorandums on this > I hope you will pass them along. PAT] Judith and Pat, This is creating both an opportunity and a problem. Opportunity: The Resp. Orgs. that have been hoarding *the good numbers*: the previously unissued numbers, the numbers that are easily remembered, repetitive digits, and or numbers that spell something, must release these numbers (or at least some of them). This makes it a good time to get an 800 number. Problem: The time frame for recycling has been drastically reduced. If you get a recently recycled number you are likely to get a lot of calls to the prior number holder -- and to have to pay for (and respond to) the wrong number calls. The Resp. Orgs. claim you have accepted this liability. We recommend that clients defer publishing/circulating their "new" 800#'s for AT LEAST two billing cycles in order to figure out how much pollution there is on the number. Does anyone have a solution or a way to avoid payment for calls made to the prior holder of an 800 number? Regards, *BOB* [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: There is no way out of paying. The deal with 800 numbers is you pay everytime the phone rings. You agreed to do that when you signed up. You wanted to encourage people to call you, right? Is it telco's fault the calls you get from public citizen "A. Moron" were intended for someone else? PAT] ------------------------------ From: kityss@usgp2.ih.att.com (-Schultz,A.P.) Subject: Help Finding Daily Rental of Beepers/Cell Phones Organization: AT&T Date: Tue, 20 Jun 1995 22:28:30 GMT I need help locating a place in the Chicago metropolitan area which rents, or would be willing to rent, cellular phones and/or beepers on a short term basis. I have seen such setups at larger malls and amusement parks (for example Gurnee Mills), where one can rent a beeper for the day. I need to acquire a small number of either beepers or cellular phones (3-6) to support AFS Intercultural Exchange programs (a non-profit group) during the fall arrival of international high school students for the 1995-96 school year. We need these for one week period each summer, and it is hard to find someone to rent them for that time period. This is to better co-ordinate a large number of volunteers running all over O'Hare airport meeting ~1,000 arriving students in 4 terminals! While some of the volunteers (myself included) do have our own cell phones, many of those involved have no on going need for such items. The period in question is August 7-12 this year. Any help would be appreciated. Even if any service provider wants to donate these items for the period in question that does not normally rent beepers/cell phones on a short term basis (day or week), we will accept! Thanks, Arnette Schultz Chicago Area AFS Volunteer a.p.schultz@att.com ------------------------------ From: Mark Cuccia Subject: Re: Manual Exchanges Date: Tue, 20 Jun 95 14:54:00 +6C Pat: I enjoyed reading your explanation of the operation of Operator manual exchanges re Lee Winson (TUrner7@pacsibm.org) Two situations you omitted: [In cities/metro-areas during the 'good-ole-days' (late 1920's thru early 1960's), you had MIXED manual and dial operation among the various exchanges.] Dial to Manual calls and Manual to Dial calls! Calls coming into a manual exchange from a dial exchange in the same local calling area did not require voice communication between the calling (dial) party and the operator in the manual office. There was a 'Panel Call Indicator' associated with each operator's position. When the Operator plugged into an incoming jack from a dial exchange, the dialed last 4 (or 5) digits plus (possible) party line 'ring' letter displayed on the lighted panel: ___ _______ _______ _______ _______ ___ | | | | | | | | 3 | 1 2 3 | 1 2 3 | 1 2 3 | 1 2 3 | W | | 5 | 4 5 6 | 4 5 6 | 4 5 6 | 4 5 6 | J | | 6 | 7 8 9 | 7 8 9 | 7 8 9 | 7 8 9 | M | | 7 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | R | |___|_______|_______|_______|_______|___| This is an example in a possible office - let's say NApoleon - NApoleon has mixed dial and manual - NA1, NA2, NA4, NA8, and NA9 are dial while NA3,5,6,and 7 are manual. The first column of 3, 5, 6, and 7 show WHICH (manual) NApoleon number was dialed - each grid of 1 to 9 & 0 show the digit dialed in each position, and the letter (if on a partyline) dialed to ring the SPECIFIC party on a partyline. When the number popped up on this lighted panel, the operator took up a called party plug, tested for busy, and if not, plugged into the jack. If it WAS busy - DID SHE PLUG INTO A BUSY SIGNAL JACK? or did she enter the line and announce 'busy'? (same question for 'out-of-service' due to called party being disconnected for nonpayment, etc). NOW for calls going TO a dial office, obviously each position had a rotary dial. Operator would take up a plug to an outgoing jack- WAS THERE A SEPERATE BANK OF JACKS FOR EACH DIAL OFFICE (with maybe a 'tandem' office to 'gather' a handful of maybe suburban exchanges)? OR WAS IT AN OUTGOING TRUNK JACK to a set of STEP selector switches located in the same building - for outgoing trunks (or maybe a Crossbar link-frame)?? DID SHE HEAR DIALTONE?? - or maybe checked a set of lamps?? MARK J. CUCCIA PHONE/WRITE/WIRE: WORK: mcuccia@law.tulane.edu UNiversity 5-5954,TEL(+1 504 865 5954) UNiversity 5-5917,FAX(+1 504 865 5917) HOME: CHestnut 1-2497 4710 Wright Road | fwds.on busy/no-answr.to cellphone/voicemail New Orleans 28 | (+1 504 241 2497) Louisiana (70128) USA ------------------------------ From: Yves Blondeel Subject: Re: Telecom Finland to Use DCS 1800 to Back up GSM Date: 20 Jun 1995 19:48:49 GMT Organization: T-REGS d92-sam@mumrik.nada.kth.se (Sam Spens Clason) wrote: YB> Please tell me where you found the "phasing out" statement. SSC> I didn't, that my translation of Post & Telestyrelsen's (Post & SSC> Telecom board) desicion of May 18. For those of you that speek SSC> Swedish I recommend you read it: SSC> http://www.et.se/elektronik(arkiv/9510/beslut.html. SSC> Maybe that is a poor translation, but that's what its about. I checked it out. I had difficulties reaching it. From here, the URL is: http://www.et.se:80/elektronik/arkiv/ ... I don't speak/read Swedish, but I did manage to understand most of it. Indeed, the Beslut seems to be rather more explicit than the EC Directive it takes inspiration from. However, I think that you went yet another step further than the Telestyrelsen in your posting to this newsgroup. "Phasing out" is not required. SSC> The scenario you describe does resemble an interview given SSC> by Telia Mobitel's managing director about a month ago. Ah, that's amusing. No linkage I assure you. SSC> France Telecom is one of the actors that wants DCS freq's in Sweden SSC> but they don't want to give Telia access to DCS because of Telia SSC> being the dominant player on the Swedish market. This position is based on existing policies in Germany and the UK, where the GSM operators were not allowed to participate in the tenders for DCS1800 licences. The rationale behind it is the stimulation of effective competition. Sweden is probably the European country where this argument is the least valid (although I personally think it is indeed valid) because it has the most open market for telecommunications infrastructure and services, including for mobile systems. > Now here is were the interesting part is. According to my knowledge > there exists no GSM/DCS networks in the same country with roaming > between them, ie capcaity roaming. Would that be in contrast to what > you say 1-2-1 (& Orange) achieved in the UK? I'm not sure that I understand exactly what you mean. If your question relates to so-called national roaming, I am aware of the fact that this has been explicitly foreseen by the telecommunications regulatory authority in the Netherlands in the GSM licence for the 'second operator' and that it has been more or less imposed (under pressure from the European Commission's General Directorate for competition) in Italy. There may be voluntary/commercial national roaming agreements between GSM or DCS1800 operators in other countries. Maybe someone else can comment on this. SSC> If there were five Swedish DCS licenses and licenses one through SSC> three went to Telia, Comviq and Europolitan (Swedish GSM operators) SSC> how would you compete? Not. I would either choose not to enter the market for mobile services for the time being (until a next generation technology comes along) or I would consider acquiring one of the already licensed operators. YB on France: YB> During this 4 year period, the two GSM operators will be excluded YB> from using the DCS 1800 frequencies in the metropolitan areas... YB> except if they can demonstrate and justify that, within a specified YB> geographical area and within strictly defined technical parameters, YB> the 900 MHz frequency band is saturated. SSC> The aim seems to be to give current GSM operators an ability to offer SSC> only capacity but not a full (nationwide) DCS service. SSC> Maybe that's what's going to happen in Sweden to ... This looks very likely indeed. I had come to precisely the same conclusion. Sam, I checked out your home page again (the first time was in the real early days of personal home pages). How did you get this unique telephone number? From which operator(s)? Keep it for as long as you can - even if they make you pay extra. One day you might be able to auction it off for big money. ;-) Cheers, Yves Blondeel ------------------------------ From: jbhicks@inlink.com (J. Brad Hicks) Subject: Re: Videoconferencing Experiences Date: Tue, 20 Jun 1995 15:09:05 -0600 Organization: Discordians for "Bob" My personal observations only: Here at MasterCard, we're heavy users of videoconferencing; a =lot= of our facilities =and= suppliers are equipped, and last I heard, the room had a heavy schedule. I've used it dozens of times myself for meetings where we had to coordinate activities with a matching department at corporate headquarters. To be fair, in the meetings I've been in, nearly everybody there were techies. (This is MasterCard International. Other than trademark and brand maintenance, our main products are computer and networking services. =Most= of us are techies.) So some of the social issues involved in having to operate our own conference equipment might not have come up. The eye contact thing bothered me, too, but it didn't seem to get in the way of work getting done, and nobody else complained about it. You end up replacing those non-verbal cues with hand waving or verbal cues to indicate when you're done, when you'd like to speak, or who you're directing a remark or question at; it's a little more awkward, but workable. In a way, it felt a little like being on IRC or some other chat service, except that I could usually tell who was paying attention. Since we were all techies, and both rooms have local and remote control, it seems like whenever somebody got bored, they'd start fiddling with the camera aim or focus; sometimes it was helpful, other times it was distracting. (I was one of the most guilty, I confess. Gadget freaks ... go fig.) But it seemed to me that everybody who'd done it more than once got pretty quickly down to business, and got over the novelty and problems of videoconferencing. It was a hot-button politically sensitive issue we were dealing with, so it took us a =lot= of meetings to achieve not very much, but I don't blame any of that on videoconferencing. After all, what were the alternatives? We needed to gather together people from St. Louis and New York to work on a mid-priority project. Actual face-to-face meetings would have gotten expensive in a real hurry, thousands of dollars a week just in airfare and/or hotel expenses. Besides, both groups had high priority projects at home that they couldn't leave. Voice-only conferencing, even with the best voice conferencing bridges, was something we tried when we couldn't get an appointment in the videoconferencing room, and it was =much= harder to keep everybody's attention and keep them all focused on the same thing at the same time. Had we had to settle it all in writing, either via email or (Gods forbid) memos, we wouldn't have ever gotten =anything= done. So yeah, videoconferencing has its annoyances. It's clearly not a finished technology, at least not the way we have it installed. But boy, it's a nice inexpensive alternative to a =lot= of travel dollars, and it has helped a lot of cross-continent and even inter-continental teams to get work done. J. Brad Hicks, St. Louis, Missouri mailto:jbhicks@inlink.com http://www.inlink.com/~jbhicks/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jun 1995 21:12:45 -0500 From: bellaire@tk.com (James E. Bellaire) Subject: Details about FBI.COM Re: Last Laugh! Big Brother is Watching You After reading the Last Laugh in TD290 I decided to check out the roots of FBI.COM. According to the naming structure, the real FBI would be fbi.GOV. This is the official listing for FBI.COM > Found By, Inc. (FBI2-DOM) > 535 So. 300 W. Suite 201 > Salt Lake City, UT 84101 > > Domain Name: FBI.COM > > Administrative Contact: > Hardy, John R. [Vice President] (JH213) johnh@INDIRECT.COM > 801 578-030005 (FAX) 801 578-0330 > Technical Contact, Zone Contact: > Fisher, Darin D. (DF65) oz@PFM.NET > 1.801.363.2540 FAX 801 532-9814 > > Record last updated on 03-Nov-94. This is the official listing for FBI.GOV > Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI-DOM) > CJIS Division > 10th and Pennsylvania Avenue > Washington, DC 20535 > > Domain Name: FBI.GOV > > Administrative Contact, Technical Contact, Zone Contact: > Smith, Hazel P. (HPS2) hpsmith@ARD.FBI.GOV > (202) 324-3000 > > Record last updated on 01-May-95. BTW, I don't know how Knty@Gov.net.fbi.com (Mike Long) gets his mail, all efforts to find his mailserver failed, ie: he apparently doesn't exist. Thank you 'Mike' for the laugh. James E. Bellaire (JEB6) bellaire@tk.com Twin Kings Communications - Sturgis, MI ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #293 ****************************** Received: from delta.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa11190; 23 Jun 95 1:19 EDT Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id TAA25242 for telecomlist-outbound; Thu, 22 Jun 1995 19:10:06 -0500 Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id TAA25234; Thu, 22 Jun 1995 19:10:02 -0500 Date: Thu, 22 Jun 1995 19:10:02 -0500 From: TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson) Message-Id: <199506230010.TAA25234@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #295 TELECOM Digest Thu, 22 Jun 95 19:10:00 CDT Volume 15 : Issue 295 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Book Review: "Internet Fireways and Network Security" (Rob Slade) DSP Speakers Wanted and Conference Announcement (Frank Gao) UPT Around the World (Sam Spens Clason) "Innovation in Telecommunications" Research (Charles P. Whaley) Workkshop on Digital Image/Video/Audio Coding (Michael Fuller) Arizona Telecom Heads for the 20th Century! (Kevin Fleming) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of public service systems and networks including Compuserve and America On Line. It is also gatewayed to Usenet where it appears as the moderated newsgroup 'comp.dcom.telecom'. Subscriptions are available to qualified organizations and individual readers. Write and tell us how you qualify: * telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu * The Digest is edited, published and compilation-copyrighted by Patrick Townson of Skokie, Illinois USA. 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Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 21 Jun 1995 12:48:59 EST From: Rob Slade Subject: Book Review: "Internet Firewalls and Network Security" by Siyan/Hare BKINFRNS.RVW 950426 "Internet Firewalls and Network Security", Siyan/Hare, 1995, 1-56205-437-6, U$35.00/C$47.95/UK#32.49 %A Karanjit Siyan ksiyan@kinetics.com %A Chris Hare %C 201 W. 103rd Street, Indianapolis, IN 46290 %D 1995 %G 1-56205-437-6 %I New Riders Publishing %O U$35.00/C$47.95/UK#32.49 800-858-7674 75141.2102@compuserve.com %P 410 %T "Internet Firewalls and Network Security", The introduction states that this book is for those who already realize the risks of attaching a system to the Internet. This extreme limitation of audience may explain the poverty of the tutorial materials, lack of overall organization, and uneven content. Those who are building firewalls know that information is hard to get, and they are willing to go for just about anything. There is a fair amount of material in the book. It tends to jump from definitions which are simplistic almost to the point of inaccuracy on one page, to technical minutiae on the next, so this is a work to be battled with in order to extract the goods. The difficulty is not reduced by the fact that the authors insist on defining, not too explicitly, new jargon. It is therefore difficult to assess whether advice about firewall architecture is truly as pedestrian as it sounds, or merely confused wording. A possibly useful feature is the inclusion of material on specific packet screening and firewall systems. This is quite limited, and does not address the new "complete kit" firewall systems currently coming to market. It does mention some PC-based screening routers which may be helpful for testing and experimentation. Some text, such as the section on mailing lists and other electronic contracts, appears based on material that is three or more years old. (More up-to-date material is provided in Appendix B.) I recall a story about a network-connected system which had been "secured" by removing its "outbound" capability. The transmit pins, on the device connected to the Internet, had been physically sheared off. To demonstrate this, the team "sent" a ping to a remote site -- and got an immediate response. As it turned out, the machine was also connected to an internal network, and the routing tables had found a gateway which eventually fed out to the Internet. Network security is complex. You will need to work at it. copyright Robert M. Slade, 1995 BKINFRNS.RVW 950426. Distribution permitted in TELECOM Digest and associated publications. Rob Slade's book reviews are a regular feature in the Digest. Vancouver roberts@decus.ca | "Metabolically Institute for Robert_Slade@sfu.ca | challenged" Research into slade@freenet.victoria.bc.ca | User rslade@CyberStore.ca | politically correct Security Canada V7K 2G6 | term for "dead" ------------------------------ From: gao@io.org (GAO) Subject: DSP Speakers Wanted and Conference Announcement Date: 22 Jun 1995 09:57:13 -0400 Organization: Internex Online (Data: 363-3783/Telnet: io.org) Dear Netters, We are looking for about two more high profile speakers for: "Conference on DSPs in Telecom" at Canadian High Technology Show Organized By the IEEE and GAO Research & Consulting Ltd. Enclosed is a list of planned topics. We have candidate speakers for topics one to four. We are looking for speakers for the last two topics: "DSP-Based Telecom Systems (Applications) One could be an overview or a discussion of several related systems One could be focused on one system" The candidate speakers must have extensive experiences in DSPs and telecom, and must be managers of reputable companies. If you would like to recommend somebody or yourself, please feel free to contact us. You are also welcome to suggest speakers for topics one to four. We are looking for the best ones for the best interests of our audiences. Best regards, Frank Gao, Ph.D. GAO Research & Consulting Ltd. Tel: (416) 292-0038, Fax: (416) 292-2364, Email: gao@io.org "Conference on DSPs in Telecom" at Canadian High Technology Show Organized By the IEEE and GAO Research & Consulting Ltd. Location: International Centre, Toronto Date: September 19, 1995, all day Planned Topics Topic 1: An Overview of DSPs and Support from One Major DSP Vendor Topic 2: An Overview of DSPs and Support from Another Major DSP Vendor Topic 3: Digital Signal Processing in Digital Telephony and Data Communication Abstract: The markets for digital telephony and data communication are rapidly expanding. This talk presents an overview of the digital signal processing functions required by digital telephony, data communications, discusses implementation issues, and finally analyzes some commercially available products for digital signal processors. Topic 4: Speech Processing and Its Applications in Telecom Abstract: This talk presents the principles of speech processing functions such as speech recognition, text to speech conversion, speech enhancement, speech coding and speech recognition. Applications in telecom will also be discussed. Two Topics on DSP-Based Telecom Systems (Applications) One could be an overview or a discussion of several related systems One could be focused on one system This is a tentative agenda. For more or updated info, please contact Dr. Frank Gao GAO Research & Consulting Ltd. Unit 204, 55 Nugget Avenue Scarborough, Ontario, Canada M1S 3L1 Tel: (416) 292-0038, Fax: (416) 292-2364, Email: gao@io.org ------------------------------ From: Sam Spens Clason Subject: UPT Around the World Date: 22 Jun 1995 14:19:40 GMT Readers of the Digest, I'm trying to do do a market survey on Universal Personal Telephony and the implementations that are availiable today. But it's pretty hard to get a grip on what's out there. I've been a Telia Persona (Telia, Sweden) customer now for almost six months. But I want an international perspective on things to be able to guess what is to come. Persona, which is an "ambitous" service based on technology from AccesLine, gives you the ability to divert calls both manually and by a schedule. The schedule can then be turned on and off. Voicemail and pager gateway (not just plain forwardning) to numerical pager systems are included. Voicemail alerts the pager on every new message. Post- & Telstyrelsen (PTS), the Swedish regulatory body, has decided to use prefix 0701 for these kind of services. Today there is only Persona but PTS has series 0701-{0,6-9} in spare for later use. 0701 is regarded as a national call so that my redirection of calls to other numbers is free - as long as the forwarded number is not an international, premium or cellphone call. I'll try to summarise by writing what I know so far (or think I know) and hopefully you can supply me with comments, suggestions and pointers. UPT The concept of one person one number. Ability to screen calls as to filter out people who at that particular instant are not welcome. E.g. I might want to redirect all calls but those from my spouse to my mailbox if very busy. Europe It looks as if 07 might be some sort of (European) standard in this area. I remember reading somewhere that the UK, as of PhONEday, now are to move all personal numbers to 07. It appears to me that Finland are to do the same thing when they change their numbering scheme completely autumn '96 (Kimmo correct me if I'm wrong). In Sweden 070, except for 0701, is GSM. In some future Personal numbers in Sweden are to move to 0700 (+7 digits). No date is set but there will be a move. Number portability hasn't been discussed yet but will probably be on the agenda as soon as there is competition on UPT or when Singapore Telecom starts offering telphony services to their 240,000 cable TV customers in Stockholm. What's the status on number portability in other countries? USA/Canada 500 numbers are availiable since January. From what I've read Bell Atlantic (amongst others. which else?) are pushing very hard. My guess is that since the SIM-card concept (as in GSM) isn't availiable terminal independent numbers become more interesting. One thing I am very curious about is if any of the proposed american PCN/PCS services are planned to incorporate GSM-styled SIM-cards. OK, it would be very nice to be able to use a dual-mode phone in North America, but being able to rent an "empty" phone and put a SIM card into it isn't to bad either. Some US operators can issue GSM SIMs to their subscribers so that when they travel to Europe, Asia or Africa they can roam as freely as any GSM user - but unfortunately the reverse isn't really possible (automatically/securely). So which are the trends in UPT? Since one of the bases of the system is that it is not the calling party that has to do the search, he only dials *the* number, this burden is put on either the system or on the number owner. To what degree can automatisation be included? To what extent can voice recognition and AI be included into the system? I think that much of the future of communication people lies in UPT and I would very much appreciate your views on this matter. Regards, Sam www.nada.kth.se/~d92-sam, sam@nada.kth.se, +46 7 01234567 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jun 1995 10:48:38 -0500 From: cwhaley@astral.magic.ca (Charles P. Whaley) Subject: "Innovation in Telecommunications" Research I'd like to thank everyone who replied to my earlier request for information on Centrex user groups and user-oriented online discussions. The contact information and copies of PBX vs. Centrex debates that I received were extremely valuable in getting my research project underway. The research involves an analysis of the innovation process in telecommunications. We all know that many technological innovations originate in the R&D labs of the telecom manufacturers -- hopefully, but not always, in response to user needs. What my associates and I would like to explore are innovations at the user end; where a telecom customer has modified, adapted or extended his or her telecom equipment or services to create new services, features or applications (either for resale, or to solve an internal problem). If you know of some interesting cases of user innovation of this kind (either in your own organization or elsewhere), I'd like to hear about them. I'm not expecting whole essays back, but if you could send a brief note describing the situation(s) with a name and phone number (or email address) of someone involved, it would be much appreciated. We'll follow up with telephone interviews. I was originally going to limit the project to Centrex users, but since we're looking for underlying principles rather that product specifics, the actual telecom system involved probably isn't a major consideration. So, if you know of someone who has done something particularly clever or creative by building onto or modifying a key system, PBX or Centrex system, please let me know. We'll be interviewing a number of such people, and would be happy to provide a summary of the results at the end of the project. P.S. Geography is not an issue. While I'm based in Toronto, I'll be conducting much of the research with my associates at MIT in Cambridge, MA. So examples of American, Canadian or international user innovations in telecom are all welcome. Thanks. Charles P. Whaley, Ph.D. | Phone: (416) 423-3582 Suite 3702, 85 Thorncliffe Park Drive | Fax: (416) 423-0331 Toronto, Ontario M4H 1L6 | Email: Charles_Whaley@magic.ca "If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much space." ------------------------------ From: Michael Fuller Date: Thu, 22 Jun 1995 17:10:30 +1000 Subject: Workshop on Digital Image/Video/Audio Coding Organization: Monash University *********************************************************** ** A 3-Day Workshop on Digital Image/Video/Audio Coding: ** ** Principles, Algorithms and International Standards. ** ** 10-12 July 1995. ** *********************************************************** Dr. K.R. Rao, Professor of Electrical Engineering, University of Texas at Arlington, U.S.A.. PRESENTED BY: Department of Robotics and Digital Technology, Faculty of Computing and Information Technology, MONASH UNIVERSITY. VENUE: Department of Robotics and Digital Technology, Monash University, Clayton Campus, Melbourne, Victoria. WORKSHOP DESCRIPTION: This workshop will present and discuss the fundamental principles and algorithms of the various international coding standards such as JPEG, CCITT H.261, MPEG-1 and -2 (audio and video), MPEG-4, CMTT-2 and FCC/HDTV, as well as their various application aspects in multimedia computing, desk top video conferencing, video-on-demand, Grand Alliance HDTV. BENEFITS: This course will enable you to: -be familiar with the various compression techniques aimed at both transmission and storage; -understand the algorithmic principles of these standards; -enhance the coder/decoder systems with attractive features; -be familiar with the software available via ftp and acquire information regarding chips, chip sets, boards, systems, multimedia workstations, available (or being developed) in the market; -acquire knowledge about the interoperability and compatibility between the various standards. INTENDED AUDIENCE: This workshop is directed at researchers, engineers, technical managers and academics who need to keep abreast with the emerging standards for interactive video/audio communications/storage services, and who are active in the development of hardware and software. It is also of interest to people interested in integrating the boards and codecs with their existing PCs and workstations resulting in the support of multimedia, teleconferencing and other interactive services. INSTRUCTOR: Dr. K.R. Rao has been a professor of Electrical Engineering at the University of Texas, Arlington since 1966, and received an outstanding research award from the university in 1992. He has published 120 papers in refereed technical journals and five books in this field, and conducted workshops on digital signal coding and compression world-wide. Dr. Rao is also the Chairman of SPIE's Critical Reviews of Technology Conference on: Standards and Common Interfaces for Information Systems to be held in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, in October 1995. WORKSHOP PROGRAM: -DAY ONE, 10 July 1995- Digital Image/Video Sequence Coding: Introduction. Fundamentals. Image/Video Sequence Compression Techniques: -DPCM; -Transform; -Subband; -Vector Quantization; -Motion Compensation; -Hybrid; -Adaptive Algorithms; -Entropy and Huffman Coding; -Wavelets; -Fractals; -Model Based. International Standards and Special Issues: -JPEG, still-frame continuous-tone digitized image; -DAY TWO, 11 July 1995- International Standards and Special Issues (cont.): -CCITT H.261, video-phone and teleconferencing; -MPEG-1, (video and audio) digital storage media; -MPEG-2, (video and audio) broadcast TV and HDTV; -CMTT 2, TV on digital networks at H2 CCITT access level; -Dolby AC3 audio compression algorithm. -DAY THREE, 12 July 1995- International Standards and Special Issues (cont.): -MPEG-4, very low bit-rate TV. -CCITT H.263, enhanced version of the H.261; Applications and Research Directions: -FCC/HDTV; -desk top video conferencing; -video-on-demand; -Packet video; -interactive multimedia communication services; -SHD (Super High Definition) image coding; -Chips, boards, codecs and systems; -Research issues and directions. REGISTRATION FEE Payment received Payment received (in Australian on or before on or before Dollars) 9 June 30 June On-site 3 Days $590 $690 $750 1 Day $250 $300 $390 Student 3 Days $220 $300 $350 Student 1 Day $90 $120 $150 To be eligible for a student registration, a letter is required from the head of the department or school to prove that the delegate is currently enrolled as a full-time student. For further information, please contact Dr. H.R. Wu at +61 3 9053255(voice) or +61 3 9053574(fax). email: hrw@rdt.monash.edu.au Registration Form Yes, I would like to register for the "Workshop on Digital Image/Video/Audio Coding" as (1)__ Delegate-full registration or (2)__Delegate-student registration, for ___day(s). (For less than three day registration only:) I shall attend the workshop on ________ July 1995. Please forward payment to: Video Coding Workshop, Department of Robotics and Digital Technology, Monash University, Clayton Campus, Wellington Road, Clayton 3168, AUSTRALIA. Name: Position:(if applicable) Organisation:(if applicable) Address: Phone: Fax: email: Cheque enclosed, made payable to "Monash University". All registration will be confirmed. Fee includes a copy of workshop proceedings, refreshments and lunches. CANCELLATIONS: A full refund is available for cancellation received in writing on or before 10 June 1995. $50 cancellation fee is applicable for cancellation received in writing after 10 June and on or before 5 July 1995. No refund can be made after 5 July 1995. ------------------------------ From: Fleming,Kevin Subject: Arizona Telecom Heads for the 20th Century! Date: Thu, 22 Jun 1995 10:59 This morning's {Arizona Republic} carried a large, front-page article outlining the Corporation Commission's decision to allow local-loop and in-state long distance competition, effective July 1, 1995. US West has asked the commission to reconsider the decision; if they don't, US West is threatening to file a lawsuit in Federal court, claiming that this is an unfair situation. Their bone of contention is that they have as much as $30 million in recent equipment installations that have not been "paid for" yet. The commission will handle a certification process for potential local service providers, with the earliest expected certification being in late 4th quarter of 1995. The decision also includes the establishment of a universal service fund, assumably along the same lines as the national fund, for the same purposes. Obviously we all know that the new service providers are going to target the heavy telecom users in central Phoenix before they ever even consider Tucson, let alone the other 90% of Arizona (geographically speaking), so the fund is supposed to cover US West's increased costs to continue providing service to those areas. US West has asked the commission to hold a series of formal hearings on this topic before implementing the changes; in my opinion (and others) this is just a stall tactic. This has been in discussion with the public and members of the commission for over a year, and I'm sure US West has been involved. Besides, this isn't the first place that US West has had to deal with this, right? On a related note, yesterday's edition carried a small, back-page type notice saying that the permissive dialing period for the 602->520 area code change has been extended to October 23, 1995 from July 21. This will make the lack-of-number situation in central Phoenix approach the boiling point long before then, I'm sure. The new cellular systems in Payson and Winslow (just installed by US West) couldn't even be given new 602-NXX exchanges, so they were given _existing_ numbers out of the Phoenix area, so local phone users in Payson have to dial US West intra-LATA long distance to call a cellular customer standing next door to them. Not good, to say the least. Kevin Fleming, Reliable Networx, Phoenix, AZ Internet: KFleming@ReliableNetworx.COM ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #295 ****************************** Received: from delta.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa11655; 23 Jun 95 1:37 EDT Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id SAA24744 for telecomlist-outbound; Thu, 22 Jun 1995 18:38:21 -0500 Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id SAA24736; Thu, 22 Jun 1995 18:38:18 -0500 Date: Thu, 22 Jun 1995 18:38:18 -0500 From: TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson) Message-Id: <199506222338.SAA24736@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #294 TELECOM Digest Thu, 22 Jun 95 18:38:00 CDT Volume 15 : Issue 294 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson FCC 800 Number Statistics (James E. Bellaire) More on the FCC 800 Order - June 21 Update From FCC (Judith Oppenheimer) The Latest On 800 Allocation (Jeff Buckingham) Observations on The 800 Situation (Judith Oppenheimer) Re: FCC Acts to Conserve 800 Numbers (Judith Oppenheimer) Re: FCC Acts to Conserve 800 Numbers (Bob Schwartz) Re: FCC Acts to Conserve 800 Numbers (Carl Moore) Re: FCC Acts to Conserve 800 Numbers (Stuart Zimmerman) Re: Manual Exchanges - Historical Question (Lee Winson) Re: Manual Exchanges - Historical Question (Jim Haynes) Manual Toll Cord-Boards in the DDD Era (Mark Cuccia) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of public service systems and networks including Compuserve and America On Line. It is also gatewayed to Usenet where it appears as the moderated newsgroup 'comp.dcom.telecom'. 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Quoted material follows with cooments marked 'JB>'. This report is available for reference in the Industry Analysis Division Reference Room, Common Carrier Bureau, 1250 23rd Street, N.W., Plaza Level. Copies may be purchased by calling International Transcription Services, Inc. at (202) 857-3800. The report can also be downloaded from the FCC- StateLink computer bulletin board [BBS file name: LDC4Q94..ZIP] directly at (202) 418-0241 or through NTIS's FedWorld system at (703) 321-8020 or through FedWorld's telnet internet node (fedworld.gov). JB> Caution: LDC4Q94.ZIP contains limited text and WP5 files with all the tables in WK1 format. I downloaded it from StateLink. LONG DISTANCE CARRIERS AND CODE ASSIGNMENTS LIST OF TABLES TABLE 13. TELEPHONE NUMBERS ASSIGNED FOR 800 SERVICE (AS OF MARCH 31, 1995 On May 1, 1993, procedures for routing 800 calls were changed. The first three digits of 800 calls no longer indicate the carrier handling the call. The new system enables customers to change service providers while still retaining the same 800 number. This system of "portability" relies on a large data base maintained by Database Service Management, Inc. (DSMI). During the two years since portability was implemented, the number of working 800 telephone numbers is reported to have doubled. The growth of 800 telephone numbers is shown in Table 13. (DSMI supplies a monthly summary of the number of 800 numbers assigned, and that summary is available in the Industry Analysis Division public reference room.) TABLE 13 TELEPHONE NUMBERS ASSIGNED FOR 800 SERVICE (REPORTED AT THE END OF THE MONTH SHOWN) WORKING MISC* TOTAL YEAR MONTH 800 800 800 NUMBERS NUMBERS NUMBERS 1993 APRIL 2,448,985 642,725 3,091,710 MAY 2,511,933 708,192 3,220,125 JUNE 2,589,123 722,006 3,311,129 JULY 2,675,483 705,416 3,380,899 AUGUST 2,738,259 701,009 3,439,268 SEPTEMBER 2,818,262 639,547 3,457,809 OCTOBER 2,891,994 660,544 3,552,538 NOVEMBER 3,083,250 728,514 3,811,764 DECEMBER 3,155,955 731,438 3,887,393 1994 JANUARY 3,257,540 580,216 3,837,756 FEBRUARY 3,381,646 731,005 4,112,651 MARCH 3,516,620 743,813 4,260,433 APRIL 3,659,129 699,212 4,358,341 MAY 3,793,865 738,767 4,532,632 JUNE 3,933,037 792,698 4,725,735 JULY 4,099,174 699,803 4,798,977 AUGUST 4,312,486 807,881 5,120,367 SEPTEMBER 4,506,014 841,381 5,347,395 OCTOBER 4,611,014 871,684 5,482,698 NOVEMBER 4,817,854 875,416 5,693,270 DECEMBER 4,948,605 763,235 5,711,840 1995 JANUARY 5,096,646 807,294 5,903,940 FEBRUARY 5,278,800 811,221 6,090,021 MARCH 5,528,723 793,771 6,322,494 * Miscellaneous numbers include those in the 800 service management system maintained by DSMI and categorized as reserved, assigned but not yet activated, recently disconnected, or suspended. 800 SERVICE MARKET DATA (REPORTED BY THE 800 NUMBER ADMINISTRATION SERVICE CENTER) JB> Second half of table clipped - it mainly repeats data above. It does track the number of 800 service providers, a total of 121 in January 1995 with the followig disclaimer: "Service providers" are users of the 800 Service Management System. Most are carriers providing 800 service, although the group also includes a number of local telephone companies and a number of large corporations that undertake 800 service for such purposes as credit card verification. JB> Note that there are about 8,000,000 numbers assignable in the 800 NPA. As of March 1995 69.1% are 'working' and 9.9% are 'miscellaneous', compared to 30.6% and 8% in April 1993. Note also that the 'miscellaneous' number is 14.4 of the 'working'. The new limit of 3% of the number of 'working' in reserve should lower this number. James E. Bellaire (JEB6) bellaire@tk.com Twin Kings Communications - Sturgis, MI ------------------------------ From: Judith Oppenheimer Date: Wed, 21 Jun 1995 14:29:37 -0400 Subject: More on the FCC 800 Order - June 21 Update from FCC The June 13th order from the FCC limiting each RespOrg to two hundred 800 numbers per week was premised on maintaining a depletion of no more than 28,000 numbers weekly among all the RespOrgs. In a letter dated June 21 from Kathleen Wallman of the FCC to DSMI president Michael Wade, Ms. Wallman says, "... at least some segments of the industry recommend that we reexamine the way that total is allocated among RespOrgs. They suggest that it would be more equitable and less disruptive for the Bureau to replace its "per capita" conservation plan with a "market share" allocation plan." "Some segments of the industry" refers to AT&T, who first made this request for "market share" allocation to the FCC on June 14th (as reiterated in an FCC letter dated June 15th.) Ms. Wallman goes on, "Assuming that the affected parties find a market share based plan more reasonable, and that no unforeseen downside is discovered, we are committed at this point to pursuing this idea.... While we are analyzing the data needed to introduce a market share allocation plan and even before the additional system software work is completed, we believe that the following approach would permit the introduction of such a plan: 1. At the beginning of each business week, DSMI would assign each RespOrg a block of numbers equal to its allocated share of 28,000 numbers. 2. Until we can perform more refined analysis of the data, each RespOrg will receive a minimum of 25 numbers a week. Since there are 138 RespOrgs (LDDS, Wiltel and EDS are counted as one RespOrg entity, as are RCI New England and Frontier Communication International), 3,450 numbers will be taken from the total of 28,000 to meet this allotment, leaving 24,550 to be assigned as follows: ----- In addition to its base of 25 numbers, each RespOrg will receive a share of the remaining 24,550 numbers that equals the product of 24,550 and the percentage of all 800 numbers in working, assigned, and reserved status on August 1, 1995, held by that RespOrg on August 1, 1994. 3. The RespOrg would place these numbers in one of three categories: (a) reserved; (b) working: or (c) hold status. The last category would be used to describe those numbers unassigned to any customer of the RespOrg; and 4. At the end of each business week, each RespOrg must return to DSMI any numbers in "hold" status." The letter goes on to outline audit compliance requirements, including certification of those submitted by the top nine RespOrgs. So, as of today's date, the DSMI is now directed to assign 800 numbers in accordance to the procedures outlined above until furtner notice from the Commission. The maximum time a RespOrg may have an 800 number in reserve status has been increased from 15 days to 45 days, and the FCC removed the incentive that any RespOrg may retain 25% of the 800 numbers returned to the "transition" status (although the 25% incentive should apply for the week of June 13, 1995 through June 20, 1995.) Compliance with this order is to begin 12:01 am eastern time, June 22, 1995. RespOrgs will be entitled to retain the 200 numbers they took between June 13, and June 20, 1995 under the per capita conservation plan, but must return to DSMI any numbers in "hold" status under the procedures outlined today. And the beat goes on..... Judith Oppenheimer Interactive CallBrand(TM) email: Producer@pipeline.com phone: 212 684-7210, fax: 212 684-2714 Bridging the Gap Between Telecom & Marketing ------------------------------ From: jbuckingham@wynd.net Date: Thu, 22 Jun 95 13:45:02 -0700 Subject: The Latest On 800 Allocation Reply-To: jbucking@callamerica.com My company was notified by the SMS 800 bureau yesterday and told that the original allocation of 200 new 800 numbers per week has now been changed to an average of the new 800 number set up during the last year. I think this method will much fairer than setting the same level for all carriers. This should also end the temporary shortage of new 800 numbers. jbucking@callamerica.com Jeff Buckingham Call America, San Luis Obispo, CA 805-545-5100 (MyLine voice or fax) ------------------------------ From: Judith Oppenheimer Date: Thu, 22 Jun 1995 17:20:50 -0400 Subject: Observations on The 800 Situation :-) First, the good news. I had the pleasure today of helping a company who's mistakenly "disconnect"-coded 800 number was returned to the available pool due to carrier administrative error (negligence? spite? who knows. Mistakes happen.) But having made and acknowledged the mistake, the carrier took a "hands-off" attitude, said the number was out of their hands in the "pool", and they were over their 200-week allotment. They said they could not, and would not, do anything. The good news part is, my calls to the DSMI and NASC (individual names withheld to protect the innocent) were handled efficiently and cooperatively. The number was quickly traced, and the problem rectified. Maybe they should provide RespOrg service directly! :-( On a more sour note, keeping in mind that the 800 database is *not* shut down, and that the FCC has placed parameters on *carriers* regarding *their* weekly allotments of 800's... 1. I called AT&T this morning and asked if I could get an 800 number. I was informed that the FCC had *shut down the 800 database* -- that *no* carriers could provide 800 numbers to *anyone* -- and that I should place my order with AT&T and go on their "waiting list." 2. Curiosity got the better of me, and I called MCI this afternoon. They said the same thing -- *no* numbers available to *anyone.* Then they went a step further. First the rep asked if I'd called any other carriers today. I said no. Then he read me a list of other carriers, including LDDS and LCI, who could not provide me with 800 service. This is odd, since both LDDS and LCI were within their "marketshare allocation", at least for this afternoon, and had some numbers available. FYI, both calls were placed to the general 800 numbers for each carrier, advertised to the public. Judith Oppenheimer Interactive CallBrand(TM) email: Producer@pipeline.com phone: 212 684-7210, fax: 212 684-2714 Bridging the Gap Between Telecom & Marketing ------------------------------ From: Judith Oppenheimer Date: Wed, 21 Jun 1995 18:49:33 -0400 Subject: Re: FCC Acts to Conserve 800 Numbers bob@bci.nbn.com (Bob Schwartz of BCI) said: > We recommend that clients defer publishing/circulating their "new" 800#'s > for AT LEAST two billing cycles in order to figure out how much pollution > there is on the number. Bob, your point is well taken -- but according to some carriers' tariffs, your suggestion could place your clients at risk of being accused of "warehousing," and subject to possible confiscation. Judith Oppenheimer Interactive CallBrand(TM) email: Producer@pipeline.com phone: 212 684-7210, fax: 212 684-2714 [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I thought the term 'warehousing' and the implications thereof only applied to carriers -- not to end users. For example, suppose I as an end user have a dozen or a half-dozen 800 numbers which I pay some carrier to supply to me. Now suppose for my own conven- ience I choose not to use several of those 800 numbers, simply holding them until I need them -- but I *am* paying the carrier some monthly fee for these. Am I 'warehousing' the numbers and subject to having them confiscated? How is it my service can be taken away from me based on how much or how little I choose to use it as long as I am paying the monthly minimum? Nor are my 800 numbers published, nor do I encourage their use by the general public. There are a lot of companies with 800 numbers that are not published. Tell me this Judith: the 'property rights in 800 numbers' that you and many others espouse; does this hold true also for small residential 800 number users such as myself or am I going to wake up some day in the future and find myself getting hustled by some large company in dire need of an 800 number who can't get one and decides to rip-off mine one way or another? What if I have two 800 numbers here, or five or ten? Is someone going to come along and say 'big business needs those more than you do' and grab them from me? What's your outlook on this? PAT] ------------------------------ From: bob@bci.nbn.com (Bob Schwartz) Subject: Re: FCC Acts to Conserve 800 Numbers Date: Wed, 21 Jun 1995 09:23:41 -1000 Organization: BCI In article , bob@bci.nbn.com (Bob Schwartz) wrote: > The Resp. Orgs. claim you have accepted this liability. We recommend that > clients defer publishing/circulating their "new" 800#'s for AT LEAST two > billing cycles in order to figure out how much pollution there is on the > number. > Does anyone have a solution or a way to avoid payment for calls made to > the prior holder of an 800 number? > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: There is no way out of paying. The deal > with 800 numbers is you pay everytime the phone rings. You agreed to > do that when you signed up. You wanted to encourage people to call you, > right? Is it telco's fault the calls you get from public citizen "A. Moron" > were intended for someone else? PAT] Pat, Every time the phone rings or every time the phone is answered? I had a client, a small non-profit, that was *fortunate* enough to be on national television. The network put their 800 number on the screen during an interview. They had the capability of answering 6 simultaneous calls only. They were billed nearly $20,000. mostly for unanswered calls. The exposure damn near killed them. We got a substantial credit for them and re-cemented their relationship with the carrier. Regards, *BOB* [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: That is a good point. I believe 800 charges only apply on the same basis as any other long distance charges, that is when the call supervises, when someone/something answers the line. There should be no charge for unanswered calls, and if calls > 6 were ringing open somewhere in the long distance carrier's network or the local telco network then something was wrong. Calls > 6 should have been returned to the calling party as busy. You did the right thing in working this out for them. Did I ever mention the 'million dollar phone call' Amoco was charged for once when AT&T messed up the supervision on one of their 800 numbers used for credit card verification? It seems AT&T started super- vising on schedule but 'forgot' to stop supervising on a call for a *long* period of time -- several weeks or months I guess -- and when the connect- ion was finally (manually) taken down and supervision stopped, no one bothered to actually report this analomy to the business office people. But my point originally was that on *legitimate connections* where someone asks for connection to your number and telco in good faith puts through the call, then you owe the money. Whether or not the call was a worthless, foolish waste of your time and money is irrelevant. Telco cannot make those decisions for you. PAT] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jun 95 11:16:38 EDT From: Carl Moore Subject: Re: FCC Acts to Conserve 800 Numbers The part about paying for calls intended for the previous holder reminds me of another case: it was not about a previous holder, but was the result of Howard Stern making up an 800 number (regarding "suicide doctor" Jack Kevorkian) which turned out to be the number of a vacation-home rental firm, which thus got swamped with calls. I have seen the term "warehousing" in discussion of non-toll-free areas, such as in New York City. How does this FCC action reconcile with the notion that no one shall be denied service due to number shortage? [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Now here the recipient of the calls and person/company guarenteeing payment to telco has a definite cause for action against someone else, namely nasty Howard Stern. I hope they sued him for the cost of the calls, the loss of their phone line for use in the way they wanted to use it, the salaries of the persons who had to be pressed into emergency duty answering the calls, etc. The phone traffic would not have occurred on its own in the normal conduct of business otherwise. PAT] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jun 95 11:16 EST From: Stuart Zimmerman <0007382020@mcimail.com> Subject: Re: FCC Acts to Conserve 800 Numbers In article Bob Schwartz wrote: > Does anyone have a solution or a way to avoid payment for calls made > to the prior holder of an 800 number? > Regards, *BOB* Bob: I do not have a fool proof solution, but a technique to help. If you are going to install an 800 number for a few billing cycles before publishing it, try this: Have your long distance carrier set up access only from one remote area code. Anyone else calling will get a message saying that the number cannot be accessed from their calling area and the new owner will not be charged. More customers of the old owner should begin to get the idea. Make sure that the carrier does not charge you for changing the area code tables. This should reduce the number of calls from the old owner that the new owner has to pay for when the new owner starts to use the number. When the new owner wants to begin using the number, he should turn it on universally, or anywhere where he/she thinks they might get legit calls. While this technique requires advanced planning, it could be helpful. Alternatively, if you do get hit with a large number of wrong numbers, work on your carrier. While they may have policies that say that wrong numbers are your responsibility, LD is very competitive, and you should always give them a chance to make you happy. Stuart Zimmerman Fone Saver, LLC "Saving consumers and businesses money on Long Distance" 007382020@mcimail.com [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Except that many carriers rightly believe that if a customer is going to be a chronic write-off; a constant source of demands for credit, etc, then its just as well to let him move on to some other carrier who will have him. After all, anywhere you go carrier- wise with your 800 number, those wrong-number calls are going to follow you. If I were a carrier and you came to me boo-hooing that your 800 line gets lots of wrong-number calls and that your present carrier had gotten tired of crediting you (and believe me, I *would* find that out before signing you to a contract; the carriers do talk to each other about stuff) then I would look rather askance at taking you as a customer. I guess it would depend on the overall volume of business you were going bring me but if the ultimate bottom line looked too crappy based on all the goodwill write-offs you'd been given, I'd not want you. PAT] ------------------------------ From: turner7@pacsibm.org (Lee Winson) Subject: re: Manual Exchanges - Historical Question Date: 21 Jun 1995 21:31:18 GMT Organization: PACS IBM SIG BBS Thanks to Pat for the historical background. The most important point was that operator's were _trained_. When I had PBX training, all of the Bell System literature focused on providing quality service, more than just connecting this plug into that jack. I think that attitude of "service quality" is missing from the training of most operators/receptionists today as well as most voice mail designers, which is shame. And businesses wonder why people scream at them when someone finally answers the phone. Experienced operators did overlap, holding a cord in each hand or the like. For instance, as soon as you gave your number, she was answering the next call while plugging you into the jack and ringing. It was amazing to watch the cords fly of experienced operators. In the old days, most companies required "Bell Training" to be hired as a PBX operator, that is a girl had to first work for Bell. Turnover at Bell was high -- I think pay was on the low side and operating conditions demanding. (Men were not considered for operator jobs until the 1970s except in special areas.) On cord PBXs, the busy test was the reverse as Pat described -- when touching the plug tip against the jack rim, a very loud click would be heard meaning the line was busy. Trunk lines had indicator lamps so you didn't have to test them. Switchboard cords are held down by weights and pulleys, not springs. ------------------------------ From: haynes@cats.ucsc.edu (Jim Haynes) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 1995 11:34:31 -0700 Subject: Re: Manual Exchanges - Historical Question Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz I believe Pat got in backwards in one respect -- for busy test the operator would hear a click if the line was busy, no click if it was idle. I grew up in a small town where the switchboard had about 1500 customers max. The operation is pretty much as Pat described, except this was a cheap switchboard for small towns and it used magnetic bullseye signals instead of lamps. (Western Electric 9-D) With lamps you can get more lines in front of an operator, but you need racks of relays in the next room to control the lamps. There were about a dozen operator positions, of which less than half were the toll end and the rest were local. The cord pairs were in three colors, red, green, and gray, as an aid to operators in tracing them when things got messy. The #9 boards used 1/4" plugs, #310. Some other boards used 3/16" diameter 309 plugs so they could put the jacks closer together and get more in front of the operator. The local board had to deal with up to four party lines; and I guess there was a section of the board equipped to handle coin lines as well. For two parties the phone numbers had a suffix of 'J' or 'W'. For four parties they added 'M' and 'R'. I have no idea what those letters stand for, if anything. The toll boards had deeper keyshelves; as I recall there was a route chart under glass on the keyshelf. There wre Calculagraphs between each two toll operators, for timing toll calls. On the toll boards there were magnetic shutter drops for the ringdown lines - also I believe there were a few local magneto lines that probably terminated on the toll board. I'm not clear on the trunking between local and toll boards. I remember if you wanted to make a long distance call you would say "long distance" in response to "number, please" and the local operator would connect you over a trunk to the toll end of the board. But for incoming toll calls I don't remember if the toll end of the board had multiples of the calling jacks for all the local lines, or if they had to go over a trunk to the local end of the board. The toll board cord circuit was more complicated than that of the local board. For one thing, it had to distinguish between local lines where it had to supply battery and toll/magneto lines where it didn't. Also it had a splitting key on each cord circuit so the operator could talk to one end of the connection without the other end hearing. There was a magneto phone on the end of the switchboard for emergency use. It was wired to special cords at several positions. I guess it was for use in case the commercial power failed and the office batteries ran down; or the main fuse on the office batteries blew; or something like that. It looked just like an ordinary farm magneto phone except there were buttons on it for party ringing. There was a chief operator's desk in the room, behind the row of operators. This had a row of jacks, one per switchboard position, so the chief operator could monitor the work of any operator. There was a gas light hanging from the ceiling so they could have light in case of electric power failure. And there were a number of oscillating fans mounted on the wall; this was before air conditioning was widespread. Just a few weeks ago my elderly aunt was telling me that in her youth the office was in the same place, but the operation was much smaller; she had a friend who was an operator and she would sometimes spend the night in the switchboard room keeping her friend company. This particular switchboard never had a dialing capability, except for one odd operation. The office was the base of a Highway Mobile Radio Telephone system, which used dialing to select a mobile unit to ring. So one of the switchboard positions had a dial mounted on it, and an extra cord associated with the dial. So the one and only outward dialing trunk to the radio system had two jacks, one for the talking path and one for the dial. The chief operator had several little bottles of paint of various colors. Sometimes she would put a little dab of colored paint next to a jack on the switchboard. I don't know what these stood for. I've read that in the early days of telephone switchboards there was a terrible problem with dust getting into the jacks; one wire chief reported he had made a big funnel that would fit over the face of the switchboard and connect to a vacuum cleaner to try to suck the dust out of the jacks. One solution to this problem was in the use of line and cutoff relays. The jacks were simple open-circuit jacks. The line relay detected the customer's telephone going off hook and lighted the switchboard lamp. The cutoff relay was operated by the sleeve of the jack when an operator plugged in, and disconnected the line relay. I guess the dust problem was solved, or was considered unimportant, by the time of the #9 switchboards because they did use break contacts in the jacks. The multiple went through all the jacks using the normal-through contacts. Then in at the end of the chain the contacts led to the magnetic signals for the lines. So plugging in anywhere in the multiple would disconnect the magnetic signal from the line. The #9D switchboard operated on 24 volts DC. There was a #9C model that used 36 volts, for use in places where line resistances ran too high for 24 volts. Normal practice with dial offices is to use 48 volts. I don't know the voltage used by other models of manual switchboards. [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: For cleaning and maintainence purposes, the technician could take the wooden panel off the back side of the larger switchboards and almost walk inside, or certainly lean well inside to clean the relays and fix broken wires, etc. A lot of the old switchboards had the magneto crank on the end of the board so that in the event of a power failure the operator could turn the little crank by hand while holding the ringing key in place. The 'paint' you referred to was actually nail polish of various colors. The little dots of water removalable paint were there for some sort of bookeeping/accounting reasons. I think it had to do with who did and did not get toll service; stuff like that. PAT] ------------------------------ From: Mark Cuccia Subject: Manual Toll Cord-Boards in the DDD Era Date: Wed, 21 Jun 95 08:05:00 GMT For about a year in 1980/81, I lived in Spokane WA. The city was a mixture of Step, #5Crossbar, and #1ESS, just like New Orleans was at that time. While New Orleans had TSPS since the mid 70's or earlier, Spokane was still using manual cord board toll operators. Even tho' there was ESS, there was NO 0+ dialing from Spokane. The only automated customer toll was 1+ non-coin. All collect/third-party/card/person, ALL toll from payphones (including station-sent-paid) and hotel/motel/PBX HAD to be placed on a dial-0 (0-) basis. I had a chance to visit the main Pacific-Northwest-Bell/AT&T building in downtown Spokane. It housed the local ESS switch which served downtown area (MAdison-4, RIverside-7, and TEmple-8) which had been Step a few years earlier, a Step 'tandem' for calls to/from nearby rural locations (also step) within the Spokane metro local calling area, the Spokane #4XB Toll switch (including a then-still-working 'Card-Translator' machine), and the main Operator's Room. As I stated, Spokane did NOT have TSPS even as late as 1980/81. The manual cordboard room was not as large (or I should say as 'long and narrow') as I would have expected - it had modern florescent lighting and carpeting and a 'contemporary' paint color scheme. The building itself probably dated back to the 1920's. I couldn't say as to how many operator positions there were (this was 15 years ago), but the boards were not that tall. Each switch in town had dedicated trunk appearances at the board, in seperate Coin and Non-Coin banks. There was a 'keyset' rather than a dial, and the keys were NOT arranged in a matrix grid, but rather two columns of five, along with 'KP', 'ST', and of course (Coin) 'collect' and 'return'. There were also not as many jacks/appearances across the face of the board as I would have expected. The operators also also were still writing out toll tickets at that time. There were outgoing trunk jacks/appearances for the #4XB, Information, Repair Service, Police, Fire, etc. I was only living in Spokane for about two months when the Mt.St.Helen's volcano erupted. Altho' the volcano was well over 200 or 300 miles to the southwest, Spokane was covered with the ash. I tried calling my parents in New Orleans and it took about a week of frequent attempts before finally reaching them. The payphone were I was staying at the time was having trouble getting dialtone (of course), and I remember losing a several nickels/dimes. (in 80/81, Spokane was 15 cents local, untimed, coins-first/ground-start). Sometimes after depositing 15c and getting dialtone, I would dial 0 and then -- nothing -- sometimes the coins would return, other times they would get stuck!(and collected). When (If) I would get an operator, she would say something like 'I'm sorry -- but I cannot get a trunk out -- my board is LIT UP LIKE A CHRISTMAS TREE' or even if she could get a trunk on her board, the call would be blocked somewhere in the #4XB switch or toll network. Most of my calls back to New Orleans as that time were collect calls, usually from that same payphone. When I moved back to New Orleans, I looked back at my Dad's South Central Bell bills, and it stated collect from 509-46?-0000. It ALWAYS showed 0000 as the last four digits -- I don't remember what the third digit of the NNX was, but it was a valid one for Spokane, but seemed to be a 'default' for all NON-sent-paid calls. Different 0 operators answered the line in different ways -- some answered 'Operator, may I help you' while some answered with their first name or their position number -- some came on the line 'Pacific Northwest Bell, may I help you' and you ALSO got an occasional operator who would answer 'Long Distance, may I help you'. I never got one answering 'AT&T' nor 'Number Please', tho'. That's 'bout all I can remember right now -- BTW, while I was still there in 80/81, there were some cuts of local switches from Step or Crossbar over to ESS. When I left in May 81, they still had no TSPS and there was ONE non-ESS switch still in the city (FAirfax - some FA-x was step, others were crossbar). MARK J. CUCCIA PHONE/WRITE/WIRE: WORK: mcuccia@law.tulane.edu UNiversity 5-5954,TEL(+1 504 865 5954) UNiversity 5-5917,FAX(+1 504 865 5917) HOME: CHestnut 1-2497 4710 Wright Road | fwds.on busy/no-answr.to cellphone/voicemail New Orleans 28 | (+1 504 241 2497) Louisiana (70128) USA ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #294 ****************************** Received: from delta.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa13973; 23 Jun 95 3:45 EDT Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA26877 for telecomlist-outbound; Thu, 22 Jun 1995 20:54:06 -0500 Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA26868; Thu, 22 Jun 1995 20:54:04 -0500 Date: Thu, 22 Jun 1995 20:54:04 -0500 From: TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson) Message-Id: <199506230154.UAA26868@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #296 TELECOM Digest Thu, 22 Jun 95 20:54:00 CDT Volume 15 : Issue 296 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Re: RBOC's Long Distance - as Resellers? (Mark Cuccia) Finding Out Whether a Canadian Phone Number is Unlisted (h.luke@qut.edu.au) Wanted: Research Students for Mobile Comms/Scattering (J.J.K. O'Ruanaidh) Re: Telecommunication on Power Lines (2223750@mcimail.com) Re: Telecommunication on Power Lines (Bill Grenoble) Re: DMS 10 and Special Calling Features (Mark Leier) Re: Phone Monopolies in Europe (A. Veller) Re: Phone Mail Jail (Brian Brown) Re: "Transfer" to Voice Mail With POTS (Tad Cook) Idiot AT&T Promotion (Steve Kass) Re: Calling MCI Blacklisted Numbers? Addition (James E. Bellaire) Black Holes and Radio Contests (Steve Bunning) Big Brother Busy at Work Watching YOU (Sean Murphy) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of public service systems and networks including Compuserve and America On Line. 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Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Cuccia Subject: RE: RBOC's Long Distance - as Resellers? Date: Wed, 21 Jun 95 12:05:00 GMT Bob Stone asks in TD v.15 #292: > When the former Baby Bells, GTE, utilites, and cable companies begin to > offer long distance service as IXCs, how will they actually connect > customers outside their regions. Will they become resellers, or will they > actually trench fiber across the country?<<<< IMHO, there will be a bit of both reselling AND facilities based services. Already the Bells and larger independents have IntTRA-LATA TOPS operators handling multiple LATAS for InTRA(only)-Lata 0-/0+ calls. Telco Repair and Business Office centers are not necessarily in the Lata you are calling from, and I think that telco is using its OWN 'corporate' network, something that THEY retained from AT&T in 1984. The larger Indep's (GTE, Centel, Contel, United, Alltel, etc) probably had their OWN 'corporate' networks PRIOR to 1984 (just like non-telco corporations have had their own microwave, VHF/UHF radio, fiber, etc). When Bell's Business Office or Repair Service or any administrative office calls me back, from ANY SCBell or BellSouth location - out of LATA (which includes out of State), I get a line or trunk number along with SCB or BST or BSM (BellSouth Mobility) or SCBTC or whatever on my Caller-ID box -- and it has been that way ever since we have had caller-ID. They ARE calling me via their OWN corporate network. GTE-Hawaii and AT&T each compete against each other for international and even some domestic, as do AT&T and (formerly RCA)Alascom. They also are probably re-selling each-others facilities for situations where one doesn't have their own facilities. Already there is a 'disconnected' LATA -- a single lata which has TWO distinct but contiguous geographic regions -- United's Lima-Mansfield OH. Has United used AT&T or someone else to connect an intra-lata (via United) call between the two points? I would think not -- United probably has its OWN trunking between its toll/tandems and to its individual United class-5 local exchanges within its two-segment LATA. I think that the MAJOR indep's and the Bells will establish facilities where they might not have them - or need to expand facilities -- same goes for larger Cable, Power, Gas, Water, Transit(rail/bus) utilities which may enter voice telephone service. Smaller indep's will probably resell larger companies facilities while establishing SOME kind of facilities where economically feasible. Already there are some indep's (not subject to the FULL MFJ stipulations) which ARE reselling inTER-LATA facilities. Here in Louisiana, East Ascension Tel.Co.(EATEL) which serves Ascension Parish (not county) east of the Mississippi River is part of the SCBell Baton Rouge LATA, but they ALSO offer EATELNET service -- voice/data/fax/etc. and even has their OWN 10-XXX+ code. I THINK that you can EVEN presubscribe to EATELNET as your primary 1+/0+. And then there are the (as I call them) 'Super-Lata's) in the northeast - Philadelphia area - PA/NJ - joint services across LATA boundaries provided by Bell Atlantic's NJBell & PABell; New York City area - NY/NJ - joint cross LATA service by BellAtlantic's NJ Bell and NYNEX' NYBell. There ARE 10-XXX+ codes, and you CAN presubscribe -- but if you do -- you canNOT 1+/0+ (nor 011+/01+) outside of those 'super'LATA regions -- you would have to 10-XXX+ first. MARK J. CUCCIA PHONE/WRITE/WIRE: WORK: mcuccia@law.tulane.edu UNiversity 5-5954,TEL(+1 504 865 5954) UNiversity 5-5917,FAX(+1 504 865 5917) HOME: CHestnut 1-2497 4710 Wright Road | fwds.on busy/no-answr.to cellphone/voicemail New Orleans 28 | (+1 504 241 2497) Louisiana (70128) USA ------------------------------ From: someone@qut.edu.au (somebody) Subject: Finding Out Whether a Canadian Phone Number is Unlisted Date: Thu, 22 Jun 95 00:18:49 GMT Organization: Queensland University of Technology, Australia Dear all, How can I find out if a Canadian phone number is unlisted? I am looking for a relative, and her surname is "Kowallek" and she lives in Canada. I am having trouble finding out whether she has a phone and if it is unlisted. On the listed CD rom it doesn't come up with any listed names. Thanks for your help. h.luke@qut.edu.au [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Forget about the CD rom for the time being. Those things are notoriously inaccurate for various reasons. Do you know what city/province your relative lives in? If so, get the area code for that city or province and try 555-1212. If you do not know the city/province, can you make a reasonable guess at it for starters? There are not nearly as many area codes in Canada as there are in the USA, and several of the provinces have one code for the entire province. In a couple cases, two or three provinces share a single area code. If you have to, you can simply go through them one at a time one after another. You'll be getting the most accurate and up-to-date information available. Now -- how do you *phrase* your questions to the directory assistance operator to get the most bang for your buck; the most information possible? In most cases you begin by asking for a check of the entire area code or province (if one code takes it all in). Generally they can do that. If you asked, for example, for a person in Toronto, and the person did not live in Toronto but actually lived in London, Ontario, many operators would not volunteer the fact that the name you asked about is located there instead. So you don't go city by city, ask up front for the operator to scan everything available to her. You ask her to search for the last name 'Kowallek', period. If she has any, she is probably going to reply to you that she has several, and do you have a first name or town. Give her that if you have it *but only after you started her searching for the last name in general*. In other words, you let her tell you if she has any or not, then you be the judge of which ones you want to search further. Normally, a non-published number is replied to differently than the absence of any listing at all. The operator may say, "I do not see that name listed at all" or the response may be "there is one but it is a non-published number". At least with DA as opposed to the Rom, the absence of anything at all usually means there is no such person, period. With the Rom, its hard to say what they mean. If the operator has one, and it is non-pub, it is useless to sit there and argue with her or try to pump for details. Non-pub means the operator is not permitted to reveal ANYTHING -- address, first name, and certainly not the phone number -- that you don't already know. If she has a non-pub for your party then your reply to the operator is 'are we talking about the one living in Edmonton?' (Whether you know the city or not is immaterial, you just bluff and say something. Many operators will respond saying 'no, this one is in Hamilton' or something like that. Good ... now you have a bit more. HANG UP AND CALL BACK TO D.A. Now we inquire about Kowallek in Hamilton. Again you are going to be told it is non-pub, and your response is, 'there seems to be some confusion operator; are we talking about Ethel in Hamilton?' She will say yes or no. In case it has not occurred to you, we now call back a third time to directory asking for Ethel Kowallek on Main Street. I'll bet you anything the operator is going to reply 'the Ethel Kowallek I have listed is on with a non-pub number'. Thank you ... call number four or is this call number five ... you want the number of Ethel Kowallek at 1234 True Street Name in Hamilton. You don't care if that is correct or not because the operator is going to tell you ... 'I have none at that address, there is an Ethel Kowallek in the 2600 block of True Street, but she has a non-pub number.' Very good operator! Next call: you want the number of Ethel Kowallek at 2615 True Street. What do you suppose the operator is going to say? "It is at 2637 True Street, but non-pub". In other words, the more you mine, the more you find the diamonds you are looking for. Any directory assistance operator is going to tell you flat out she can reveal nothing but that she *can* confirm information you provide for the sake of making sure you are both talking about the same party, etc. So once you zero in on the name you want in a town that seems likely, you start bluffing as though you *already knew the address*. Over the course of maybe three or four phone calls, possibly up to a dozen, operators will bit by bit and piece by piece give you little clues as to the person's address *as long as they think you are actually giving that information to them* . PAT] ------------------------------ From: J.J.K. O'Ruanaidh Subject: Wanted: Research Students for Mobile Comms/Scattering Organization: Trinity College Dublin Date: Thu, 22 Jun 1995 17:08:29 GMT UNIVERSITY OF DUBLIN, TRINITY COLLEGE DEPARTMENT OF ELECTRONIC AND ELECTRICAL ENGINEERING *------------------------------------------------------------------------ --* * 1. Research Studentships in Electromagnetic Wave Scattering * from Rough Surfaces * * 2. Research Studentships in Land Mobile Radio Propagation *------------------------------------------------------------------------ --* Wave Scattering from Irregular Surfaces arises in diverse areas including Land Mobile Radio Communications Engineering, Radar, Underwater Acoustics, and Remote Sensing. Several studentships are available in the Wave Scattering Research group. The nature of the research is theoretical/numerical. The Land Mobile Radio Propagation research is concerned with the development of propagation modelling software techniques (computational electromagnetics) for radio communication environments. The approach to propagation modelling is strictly physical transforming a representation of the scattering surfaces (buildings, terrain etc.) into a map of channel characteristics (expected spatially variant system function). The studentships cover subsistence and tuition fees and shall be tenable for up to three years. Applicants should ideally hold or expect to obtain a first class honours primary degree (or equivalent or higher qualification) in one of the following areas: Electronic/Electrical Engineering Theoretical Physics Applied Mathematics Computer Engineering For further information please contact: Dr. P.J.Cullen or Ms. Brenda McDonald (Departmental Secretary) Tel +353-1-608-1580/2238; FAX +353-1-6772442 email cullen@mee.tcd.ie/secr@mee.tcd.ie Dr. Peter J Cullen Department of Electronic and Electrical Engineering University of Dublin Trinity College Dublin 2 IRELAND Tel +353-1-608-2238/1580 FAX +353-1-6772442 ------------------------------ From: 2293750@mcimail.com (Lonestar) Subject: Re: Telecommunication on Power Lines Date: Thu, 22 Jun 1995 15:26:03 -0500 Organization: virtually none... In article , ndallen@io.org (Nigel Allen) wrote: > Reddy Urimind asked about telecommunications on power lines, and > Patrick Townson added some explanations about telephone communications > over the third rail of the Chicago Transit Authority's transit system. > In some sparsely-settled rural areas of the U.S., telephone service > was provided using existing electric power cables. I'm not sure how > this was done, or whether it is is still a common practice. (This is > not the same as having telephone cables and power lines attached to > the same poles.) Interexchange carriers use power transmission structures typically as rights of way. An armored fiber cable replaces the ground wire on the transmission structure. Hence the name Fiber Optic Groundwire, or FOGwire. This type of construction is generally much more costly than buried fiber - the cable is more expensive and installation is best done by helicopter. But it's cost-effective over very rough/rocky terrain where buried fiber would be impractical/impossible. The pleasant thing about FOGwire is that it doesn't require physical locates whenever someone wants to work along the right-of-way - and nobody digs it up. Gets shot at now and again, but it's hard to hit. Very nice alternative to digging in the dirt. Power companies are making some lucrative deals with carriers for "pole rights" - good business usually for both parties. Lonestar <2293750@mcimail.com> ------------------------------ From: billg@radix.net (Bill Grenoble) Subject: Re: Telecommunication on Power Lines Date: 22 Jun 1995 23:44:11 GMT Organization: RadixNet Internet Services When I was in college, our campus radio station transmitted over the power wires. We had a transmitter on each of the quadrangles and at the woman's dorm. (This was VPI in 1960, 6000 men and 75 women) The advantage was that the signal was available in the dorms, but not off campus. WUVT did not need a license to operate, and student blunders did not get to the FCC. The problem with carrier current is that it does not go through power transformers. We had transmission lines in the steam tunnels, and a coupling box at every transformer vault. I live in a rural area and am the only house on my transformer. I would not be able to use carrier current to communicate around the neighborhood unless everyone was coupled to the high voltage line on top of the pole. I am not sure whether we have 4800, 9600, or 15000 volts on our pole, but I am not interested in messing with it. The carrier current signal is coupled between the black (hot) wire and the white (ground) wire. The power wiring acts like a transmission line. Granted the impediance is widely variable and not constant, but at low and medium frequencies standing waves are not a big problem. (Because the run is less than a wavelength). The power companies do couple to their high voltage lines and use them for voice and data. I don't think they use carrier current for local distribution loops (ie from the substation to the neighborhood) although the are able to recognize a lot of outages. There may be some signalling on some of the wires. Does anyone from the power companies want to enlighten us? Bill Grenoble Principal Engineer, Radix II, Oxon Hill, Maryland Residence in the Mattawoman swamp in Accokeek Maryland ------------------------------ From: mark.leier%sasknet.sk.ca@sasknet.sk.ca Subject: Re: DMS 10 and Special Calling Features Date: 22 Jun 1995 15:16:34 GMT Organization: SaskNet News Distribution Reply-To: mark.leier%sasknet.sk.ca@sasknet.sk.ca In , Greg Tompkins writes: > I am interested in getting Caller ID in my area, but when I called the > phone company they told me that our switch is a DMS 10 and will not > support special features such as caller ID. Is it true that DMS 10 is > such an antiquated beast? How long has the DMS 10 been around anyway? Hi Greg: As an old DMS support guy, I can tell you your problem is economics, not technology. The DMS-10 is old but with CCS7 and proper software and hardware, it CAN deliver CLID. Unfortunately, your local company is not likely to want to sink that investment into an older (depreciated) switch at this time unless they figure they will get a big take on the CLID and other revenue generators it can bring. Your last, best hope (for all you Babylon 5 fans), is that they have a DMS-100 host (or similar) and that they might put a DMS-RSC remote in your area that will support all the digital finery you desire. By the way, the DMS-10 is ancient by high tech standards (over 15 years I beleive). The DMS was a big thing when it first came out as it was the first "all digital" switch ... line card codec and all. When I left my support position, one of our DMS-100s had over 65,000 subscribers. It ran over 25 million lines of code in real time ... the second largest real time system in the world, they said. A technophiles dream ... a tech-support persons nightmare!!! Have a great day and good luck with your CLID. Mark Leier P.Eng. 306-791-1838 leierm@stentor.ca ------------------------------ From: aveller@vnet3.vub.ac.be (A. Veller) Subject: Re: Phone Monopolies in Europe Date: Thu, 22 Jun 1995 12:28:44 +0100 Organization: T-REGS In article , tholome@dialup.francenet.fr (Eric Tholome) wrote: > As far as I know, they now have to choose between the following two > solutions to provide universal phone service: > - require that the original monopolistic operator provides universal > service. Other operators would have to pay access charges when accessing > this network, to compensate for the cost of universal service; > - create a common "solidarity" fund that all operators must contribute to, > either financially, or by providing universal phone service. The big issue/question: what is the cost of universal service? The big problem: who will tell us? The big answer: the former monopolist operators. My question is now which incentive will they have to tell us the truth? According to BT, their access deficit for 1992/93 (one year) was #1.45 billion, According to a note from Tele Danmark to the Danish ministry Tele Danmark has no need whatsoever for a universal service fund, nor for access deficit charges to fulfill their universal service obligation. How can this be possible? How can one company have such a major deficit and another company no problem whatsoever. The universal service problem has not been solved yet, we have barely scratched the surface. In view of this all, I would be very interested how the universal service problem has been attacked in the US (perhaps not federally but on the level of the States). There has been a statement by Al Gore where he mentioned in passing the so-called pay-or-play principle (you either play and provide universal service, or you pay so that others can provide it). If anyone could point me in the direction of a concrete case where this principle has been applied i would be greatful. ------------------------------ From: bfbrown@teal.csn.net (Brian Brown) Subject: Re: Phone Mail Jail Date: 22 Jun 1995 16:38:47 GMT Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc. Next time you call someone, try using your rotary dial. Odds are it will hang you up if you dial 3 or higher. Or, if you dial 1 or 2, you may activate extended services like three-way calling or forwarding. The real ansser for this is voice recognition - fairly reliable, and quite expensive. > Second, there should be ALWAYS an exit to a human operator, and without > waiting six hours for one. Pressing 0 should instantly switch to a human. > If the company is closed, there should be a recording option. Many IVR systems use T1 (digital phone line) technology. The protocol does not generally allow for hook-flash call redirection. As a result, expensive hardware is frequently required to allow the call to connect somewhere else. > Third, systems should try to use standardized key functions. * and # > should do the same thing. If you have recording or transfer options, > the keys should be uniform across systems. It would save so much time. Most systems use star for abort/backup, and pound for enter. There is an official industry standard document for recommended IVR conventions. It should be mandatory reading for IVR app developers. > Lastly, systems should be carefully designed so that no customer ends up > in an infinite loop, or phone mail jail. In general, it is a good practice to kick callers out when they can't figure out what's going on. A poorly written system may let you enter an infinite loop, but it should at least kick you out after three mistakes at any given voice prompt. This makes life a little harder for hackers. In theory, your suggestions are a good idea, and I don't think people will disagree with your assessment of the frustration IVR systems may give you. Keep in mind that there are two kinds of systems you seem to be describing as one here: automated attendants, and voicemail. Voicemail is exactly that, and should really be no more. Automated attendants really need to be well written in order to avoid confusion and frustration. But, the market rules here, and if businesses lose customers because of a poorly written IVR application, that application's writer will find itself with no new business. The market should weed out the junk. Brian Brown ConferTech, International ------------------------------ From: Tad Cook Subject: Re: "Transfer" to Voice Mail With POTS Date: Thu, 22 Jun 1995 11:24:12 PDT john@telecnnct.com (John Nestoriak) writes: > I am looking for a way (either a PC voice card and software or answering > machine) to send an already answered call to "voice mail". (stuff deleted) > Ideally it would work from any phone in the house but if it worked > only from the machine it would be ok. Also multiple (3+) mail boxes > would be great. Sorry this is so late. I didn't see any response to this. Here is how it works in my house. One of the features we get from the telco is Call Hold. This allows us to put calls on hold by doing a hookflash and then dialing *9#. If we then hang up the phone, it rings back, and then the answering machine can pick it up. This is really handy when I am in the shower and someone wants to leave a message. For multiple mailboxes, you might consider an answering machine that I saw at Radio Shack recently. It has four mailboxes, which I guess are selectable after a greeting. A couple of months ago I think they had it on sale for $129.95. tad@ssc.com | Tad Cook | Seattle, WA | Ham Radio: KT7H | The general root of superstition is that men observe when things hit, and not when they miss, and commit to memory the one, and pass over the other-Sir Francis Bacon 1561-1626 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jun 1995 20:31:20 EDT From: SKASS@drew.edu Subject: Idiot AT&T Promotion In today's mail, I received an offer for an AT&T TrueChoice (sm) Calling Card. If I bite, I receive AT&T Long Distance Gift Certificates equal to my international Calling Card Usage for August and September, up to a maximum of $100. The "new" thing about this card is that the number is between seven and nine digits long, and it's my choice. They suggest that I choose my phone number without the area code. (BTW, AT&T let on that they had real-time ANI by reciting my phone number when I spoke with them.) Now, I already _have_ an AT&T Calling Card, and I don't see any good reason to get one with a different number. But they won't ("no one can") give me this rebate offer unless I get the new card. (Ok, I forgot to ask if I can keep both cards, take advantage of the offer on the TrueChoice (sm) card, then dump it in October, but they didn't suggest that to me as an option, either.) Can someone please tell me _why_ AT&T wants to reward me for changing the number on my card? I'm happy with my 864 XXX XXXX XXXX as my calling card number. I don't want to change it. AT&T's crazy marketing has amused me for years, but this time it really annoys me. Steve Kass, skass@drew.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jun 1995 02:41:10 -0500 From: bellaire@tk.com (James E. Bellaire) Subject: Re: Calling MCI Blacklisted Numbers? Addition I hope 'seen' has a grandmother that speaks V.34. The three examples he gave are all 14.4 modem connections connecting to _The Edge!_ (in East Aurora, New York), _Digital Ecstacy!_ in 'cyberspace' (Paterson, New Jersey), and _Pirates Haven!_ in 'the U.S.A.' (Lincoln Park, Michigan). (These boards like bangs!) Of the three, my favorite pre-login message came from Digital Ecstacy... > |)iGiTa[ ECSTASY DISCLAIMER!!! > > THIS IS A PRIVATE SYSTEM!!! Usage is strickly limited to authorized >members! Usage by a Regulatory, State, and/or Governmental agency >for any purpose IS STRICKLY FORBIDDEN via various legal regulations as a >violation of our rights of PRIVACY, FREE SPEECH, and other lawful rights >guaranteed by The United States Constitution and other applicable laws and >regulations. [SNIP] 'Strictly' speaking, I suppose the right to misspell is the most important part of free speech! (I use it often...) I hope some government employee sues them based on discrimination based on employment. >No member is to knowingly violate FCC, Copyright, obscenity, or other >regulations. With a name like Digital Ecstacy I doubt if they would ever have any obscene material available. Right? BTW the MCI operator comes on line if I try to bill these numbers to my calling card too, but I can call them direct via MCI. James E. Bellaire (JEB6) bellaire@tk.com Twin Kings Communications - Sturgis, MI [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: What the system operator of that BBS does not seem to understand is that when you connect a computer to a telephone line and offer its services in general to the 'public' you lose whatever reasonable expectations of 'privacy' you might have regards the computer files had it not been put on line and if some effort had been specifically made to keep the public away. To invite the public on the one hand while saying the 'government' on the other hand is not invited is silly. If you offer some spectacle for public consumption/viewing then members of the public who work for the government are equally free to observe whatever it is. Remember the fuss over the Oklahoma City affair? The senator said government agents attended PUBLIC meetings as observers. Objections were made that that was 'unconstitutional' and violated the rights of the people at the meeting. Of course it isn't and of course it doesn't. The public consists of all the public. Being a government employee does not make you any less a member of the public. Being a police officer does not make you any less a member of the public. If the public can participate, then *anyone* can participate. Oh well, let him tell it to the judge. PAT] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jun 1995 18:27:22 -0400 From: bunning@acec.com (Steve Bunning) Subject: Black Holes and Radio Contests As readers of the TELECOM Digest are aware, the use of interchangable NPAs has caused more than a few problems. I was listening to the "Don and Mike Show" yesterday (a nationally syndicated radio program). The show originates near Washington, DC, but gets calls from all over the US. They were starting one of their contests and got a call from Mobile, Alabama. The call got dropped accidentally and what happened next was interesting. They had the callback number for Mobile, but the people on the air knew the Mobile area code (334) couldn't be reached through their normal PBX lines. They started to use a direct outside line to call the contestant back. Unfortunately, the contest required two simultaneous calls to Mobile so, they invoked the ultimate solution ... "Next caller!" Another example of high cost of interchangable NPAs. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jun 1995 19:23:08 -0400 From: murphy@RTCENT.COM (S. Murphy - RTC Enterprises) Subject: Big Brother Busy at Work Watching YOU Hi Pat, Thought you might find this interesting.  Sean Murphy BIG BROTHER Source: Information Week Issue 528, page 88 Section: Applications Column: In Short Thwarting 'Softlifters' Microsoft is trying out an anti-software-pirating effort in England, with an eye to bringing it to the United Staes. The application -- called LegalWare -- is being distributed in the U.K. as freeware. It consists of disks and a workbook designed to help companies understand software issues and audit thier systems. Another attack against what Microsoft terms "softlifting" also is in the offing. Microsoft officials confirm that beta versions of Windows 95 include a small viral routine called Registration Wizard. It interrogates every system on a network gathering intelligence on what software is being run on which machine. It then creates a complete listing of both Microsoft's and competitors' products by machine, which it reports to Microsoft when customers sign up for Microsoft's Network Services, due for launch later this year. Customers must actively disable the routine if they don't want it to run. R E A L T I M E C O M M U N I C A T I O N S Broadband Communication Consultants land: 2050 Claremont, suite 25 Montreal, Quebec CANADA H3Z 2P8 tel: (514) 482-5551 fax: (514) 879-8485 email: murphy@RTCEnt.com http://www.cam.org/~murphy [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Pretty clever, I would say! And how many people do you think will go to the trouble to disable that routine -- or for that matter, even know that it exists until after it has done its work? Keep your system clean, then it won't matter. PAT] ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #296 ****************************** Received: from delta.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa07216; 23 Jun 95 21:48 EDT Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA11569 for telecomlist-outbound; Fri, 23 Jun 1995 15:21:22 -0500 Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA11561; Fri, 23 Jun 1995 15:21:19 -0500 Date: Fri, 23 Jun 1995 15:21:19 -0500 From: TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson) Message-Id: <199506232021.PAA11561@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #297 TELECOM Digest Fri, 23 Jun 95 15:20:00 CDT Volume 15 : Issue 297 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Re: Will Cable Companies Dominate Internet Access Market? (Tom Horsley) Re: DMS 10 and Special Calling Features (Gary McClure) Re: Big Brother Busy at Work Watching YOU (Andrew C. Green) Re: Telecommunication on Power Lines (Eric Roellig) Communications Decency Act Part II (Joel Upchurch) Wanted: Telex Modem (Richard Clark) Detection of DTMFs in PCM Sounds (Aaron Putnam) Re: Computer Viruses Banned from Finnish Internet (David H. Close) Closing Down For a Few Days (TELECOM Digest Editor) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of public service systems and networks including Compuserve and America On Line. It is also gatewayed to Usenet where it appears as the moderated newsgroup 'comp.dcom.telecom'. Subscriptions are available to qualified organizations and individual readers. Write and tell us how you qualify: * telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu * The Digest is edited, published and compilation-copyrighted by Patrick Townson of Skokie, Illinois USA. You can reach us by postal mail, fax or phone at: 9457-D Niles Center Road Skokie, IL USA 60076 Phone: 500-677-1616 Fax: 708-329-0572 ** Article submission address only: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu ** Our archives are located at lcs.mit.edu and are available by using anonymous ftp. The archives can also be accessed using our email information service. For a copy of a helpful file explaining how to use the information service, just ask. ************************************************************************* * TELECOM Digest is partially funded by a grant from the * * International Telecommunication Union (ITU) in Geneva, Switzerland * * under the aegis of its Telecom Information Exchange Services (TIES) * * project. Views expressed herein should not be construed as represent-* * ing views of the ITU. * ************************************************************************* Additionally, the Digest is funded by gifts from generous readers such as yourself who provide funding in amounts deemed appropriate. Your help is important and appreciated. A suggested donation of twenty dollars per year per reader is considered appropriate. See our address above. All opinions expressed herein are deemed to be those of the author. Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tom@ssd.hcsc.com (Tom Horsley) Subject: Re: Will Cable Companies Dominate Internet Access Market? Date: 23 Jun 1995 14:06:30 GMT Organization: Harris Computer Systems Corporation Reply-To: Tom.Horsley@hawk.hcsc.com > (Leaving the connection up full-time could be expensive. Pacific Bell > charges for local usage during business hours, even on residential > ISDN. People needing full-time Internet services will still need an > ISP that provides dedicated access through leased lines.) Ah, but with the microscopic call setup time of ISDN, it seems (technicall) possible to have a "dial on demand" kind of agreement with your provider which would provide the appearance of a permanent connection with (hopefully) less expense (depending on how popular your site was with incoming users). I've often wondered if anyone will be providing this kind of service. It certainly is something I would be interested in if it was cheaper than the typical rates today for a full time internet connection. Tom.Horsley@mail.hcsc.com Home: 511 Kingbird Circle Delray Beach FL 33444 Work: Harris Computers, 2101 W. Cypress Creek Rd. Ft. Lauderdale FL 33309 (email pvs@neu.edu, 1-800-622-SMART, gopher://chaos.dac.neu.edu:1112/00/pvs.txt) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jun 1995 14:35:08 +0000 From: gary.mcclure@nt.com Subject: Re: DMS 10 and Special Calling Features Organization: Bell Northern Research The DMS-10 DOES offer Caller ID, has been around since 1977 with an installed base of 3500+ Central Office locations in the US (300 in Canada) and was the first Class 5 end office to provide RISC based processing with service to over 12 million subscribers. The issue here is one of the telephone company not offering the service instead of the DMS-10 software being available to provide it. In 2nd quarter of 1992, Northern Telecom(NORTEL) provided the industry with software generic 404.40 for the DMS-10 that provided the following Custom Local Area Signaling Services(CLASS) features: Calling Number Delivery Calling Number Delivery Blocking Automatic Callback Automatic Recall Customer Originated Trace Selective Call Acceptance Selective Call Rejection Distinctive Ringing Then in December 1994, software generic 406.10 provided additional CLASS features: Calling Name Delivery Calling Name Delivery Blocking Caller Identity Delivery and Suppression Today, hundreds of telephone companies with DMS-10s are already offering Caller-ID. Please advise who your local telephone company is and we will assist if possible. Regards, Ken.Ray@nt.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jun 1995 12:06:03 CDT From: Andrew C. Green Subject: Re: Big Brother Busy at Work Watching YOU Sean Murphy (murphy@RTCENT.COM) writes, quoting an old issue of Information Week: > Microsoft officials confirm that beta versions of Windows > 95 include a small viral routine called Registration Wizard. It > interrogates every system on a network gathering intelligence on what > software is being run on which machine. Oh, please. There's also a kid in England who's dying of a brain tumor and appeared on Procter & Gamble's "Donahue" show last March to announce that he wanted to set the world's record for devil-worshiping postcards. Or something like that. The following correction was circulated on Usenet about a month ago, but bears repeating in this forum: From: ASaunders@aol.com Subject: re: Microsoft plans corporate espionage A recent trade publication article contained inaccuracies regarding the purpose and operation of the Registration Wizard, the on-line registration application in Windows 95. The purpose of the Registration Wizard is to offer an electronic version of the paper-based Registration Card that traditionally comes with all Microsoft products. The Registration Wizard asks for similar information to that listed in the paper-based registration card, such as your hardware configuration and applications usage. Just like with a traditional registration card, providing this information is optional. A customer using the Registration Wizard receives dialog prompts asking them whether they would like to send this information. They must actively click 'send' for any information to be sent. There are lots of benefits to customers that provide this information - such as product update mailings and improved product support because the product support engineer can refer to your exact system configuration information on-line. In the end, though, sending this information is optional and a conscious decision by the user. Microsoft traditionally does not make information gathered during the registration process available to third-parties. If the customer chooses to send system and software information to Microsoft with the Registration Wizard, it is a one-way, one-time occurrence and takes place at the time the customer selects 'send.' Andrew C. Green (312) 266-4431 Frame Advanced Product Services 441 W. Huron Internet: acg@frame.com Chicago, IL 60610-3498 FAX: (312) 266-4473 ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Telecommunication on Power Lines Date: Thu, 22 Jun 1995 19:45:35 -0500 (CDT) From: roellig@cig.mot.com (Eric Roellig) Reply-To: roellig@cig.mot.com Nigel Allen writes: > In some sparsely-settled rural areas of the U.S., telephone service > was provided using existing electric power cables. I'm not sure how > this was done, or whether it is is still a common practice. (This is > not the same as having telephone cables and power lines attached to > the same poles.) Unfortunately (as I was still in diapers) I don't know what the equipment looked like, but in 1960 my parents moved into an old house in the country. At the time they bought it, it had no fancy indoor plumbing and no phone. My dad told me that the first installation of a phone was indeed over the power line. He described a "box" that the phone was plugged in to. He indicated that it worked just fine and the quality was just as good as any other phone he had used in town. I think this condition lasted for a couple or three years till the phone company ran dedicated copper to the house. My parents farm is at the extreme edge of service for Monroe City MO and we were on a party line for a good number of years. I still look up and listen intently for a short period of time when I hear a non-standard ring pattern. I guess I still think I need to count the number of rings to see if it is for me :) We had some kind of stepper switch until about '67 or so. I remember my mom telling me that we had to start dialing seven digits instead of four ... I kinda wish I was more phone literate back then. It would be fun to know more of the details of phone service in that small town while I was growing up. roellig@cig.mot.com (Eric Roellig) Motorola CIG +1-708-632-5774 ------------------------------ From: joel@oo.com (Joel Upchurch) Subject: Communications Decency Act Part II Date: Fri, 23 Jun 95 16:48:54 GMT Organization: Online Orlando I checked on thomas.loc.gov today and noticed that the final version of the communications reform bill was available. On checking on the communications decency act section, I saw that there were significant changes in the language from the version I previously reported to telecom. I have appended the revised version. The orginal HTML version is a lot easier to read than this ASCII version. Paragraph (f) (1) addresses some concerns I mentioned in my first post, about the possible liability of someone who simply provides access for a minor to the Internet. It still looks to me like running a Usenet news server will be a crime, if you let a minor have access to it. I'm also puzzled by the second sentence in (f) (1): > `(1) No person shall be held to have violated subsections (a), > (d), or (e) solely for providing access or connection to or from > a facility, system, or network over which that person has no > control, including related capabilities which are incidental to > providing access or connection. This subsection shall not be > applicable to a person who is owned or controlled by, or a > conspirator with, an entity actively involved in the creation, > editing or knowing distribution of communications which violate > this section. The phrase "person who is owned', sounds like a reference to slavery. Maybe is has a special meaning in a legal context. --------------------------------------------- S.652 Telecommunications Competition and Deregulation Act of 1995 (Passed by the Senate) TITLE IV--OBSCENE, HARRASSING, AND WRONGFUL UTILIZATION OF TELECOMMUNICATIONS FACILITIES SEC. 401. SHORT TITLE. This title may be cited as the `Communications Decency Act of 1995'. SEC. 402. OBSCENE OR HARASSING USE OF TELECOMMUNICATIONS FACILITIES UNDER THE COMMUNICATIONS ACT OF 1934. (a) Offenses- Section 223 (47 U.S.C. 223) is amended-- `(1) by striking subsection (a) and inserting in lieu thereof: `(a) Whoever-- `(1) in the District of Columbia or in interstate or foreign communications-- `(A) by means of telecommunications device knowingly-- `(i) makes, creates, or solicits, and `(ii) initiates the transmission of, any comment, request, suggestion, proposal, image, or other communication which is obscene, lewd, lascivious, filthy, or indecent, with intent to annoy, abuse, threaten, or harass another person; `(B) makes a telephone call or utilizes a telecommunications device, whether or not conversation or communication ensues, without disclosing his identity and with intent to annoy, abuse, threaten, or harass any person at the called number or who receives the communications; `(C) makes or causes the telephone of another repeatedly or continuously to ring, with intent to harass any person at the called number; or `(D) makes repeated telephone calls or repeatedly initiates communication with a telecommunications device, during which conversation or communication ensues, solely to harass any person at the called number or who receives the communication; `(2) knowingly permits any telecommunications facility under his control to be used for any activity prohibited by paragraph (1) with the intent that it be used for such activity, shall be fined not more than $100,000 or imprisoned not more than two years, or both.'; and (2) by adding at the end the following new subsections: `(d) Whoever-- `(1) knowingly within the United States or in foreign communications with the United States by means of telecommunications device makes or makes available any obscene communication in any form including any comment, request, suggestion, proposal, or image regardless of whether the maker of such communication placed the call or initiated the communications; or `(2) knowingly permits any telecommunications facility under such person's control to be used for an activity prohibited by subsection (d)(1) with the intent that it be used for such activity; shall be fined not more than $100,000 or imprisoned not more than two years, or both. `(e) Whoever-- `(1) knowingly within the United States or in foreign communications with the United States by means of telecommunications device makes or makes available any indecent communication in any form including any comment, request, suggestion, proposal, image, to any person under 18 years of age regardless of whether the maker of such communication placed the call or initiated the communication; or `(2) knowingly permits any telecommunications facility under such person's control to be used for an activity prohibited by paragraph (1) with the intent that it be used for such activity, shall be fined not more than $100,000 or imprisoned not more than two years, or both. `(f) Defenses to the subsections (a), (d), and (e), restrictions on access, judicial remedies respecting restrictions for persons providing information services and access to information services-- `(1) No person shall be held to have violated subsections (a), (d), or (e) solely for providing access or connection to or from a facility, system, or network over which that person has no control, including related capabilities which are incidental to providing access or connection. This subsection shall not be applicable to a person who is owned or controlled by, or a conspirator with, an entity actively involved in the creation, editing or knowing distribution of communications which violate this section. ----------------------- Joel Upchurch @ Upchurch Computer Consulting joel@oo.com 28 27 23 N 718 Galsworthy Ave. Orlando, FL 32809-6429 phone (407) 859-0982 81 23 11 W ------------------------------ From: rclark@mindlink.bc.ca (Richard Clark) Subject: Wanted: Telex Modem Date: 23 Jun 1995 19:33:09 GMT Organization: Cunningham Group Reply-To: rclark@cunning.com Does anyone know of a source for Telex modems. These rare buggers act as an interface between the telex line and a computer. We are using a few in our organization currently, but the manufacturer no longer exists. (Taken by aliens or something to that effect.) I want to have a supplier in case the ones we have die. I have heard rumors the a company called HASLER is know to make them. The only HASLER companies that I have found want to sell me farm equipment, exotic fruits, or Postal machines. ------------------------------ From: aaron@efn.org (Aaron Putnam) Subject: Detection of DTMFs in PCM sounds Date: Thu, 22 Jun 1995 13:53:36 -0700 Organization: Cypress Research Corporation Reply-To: aaron@efn.org I am looking for any information about, or reliable examples of identification of touch-tones within a digitally recorded sound. I've been given some vague references to using Fourier Analysis to determine the frequencies present within the sound, but I don't have any information about how to go about doing this. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Please CC my email address if you reply (aaron@efn.org). Thanks much in advance! Aaron Putnam ------------------------------ From: dhclose@alumni.caltech.edu (David H. Close) Subject: Re: Computer Viruses Banned from Finnish Internet Date: 21 Jun 1995 05:31:30 GMT Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena Kimmo.Ketolainen@utu.fi (Kimmo Ketolainen +358 40 500 2957) writes: > The Ministry of Traffic and Communications banned last week Internet > service providers and their customers from offering computer viruses > publicly online. And how do they define the term, virus? How are they able to distinguish a virus from a Java program or a buggy database? Is this merely a case of, they'll know one when they see one? If a virus is a program which runs on a user's machine without request or consent by the user, then Java may fit. The intention is certainly to run programs on a user's machine transparently to the user. You might argue implied consent, but it might not be *informed* consent. If a virus is a program which runs on a user's machine and damages that system or data stored on it, then any commercial software with a known but un-fixed bug may fit. There may be answers to these questions, but I haven't heard them and I'd much appreciate hearing them. But then, the Finnish regulation seems only to ban distribution of virii *with consent*, that is, at the explicit request of the customer. The continued permission to distribute such programs privately would seem to make it still legal to deliberately infect another machine. Is there some other rule covering that situation? Dave Close, Compata, Costa Mesa CA "Politics is the business of getting dave@compata.ccss.com, +1 714 434 7359 power and privilege without dhclose@alumni.caltech.edu possessing merit." - P. J. O'Rourke ------------------------------ From: TELECOM Digest Editor Subject: Closing Down For a Few Days Date: Fri, 23 Jun 1995 15:15:00 CDT I need to take a few days off and attend to some personal and family matters here. With a little luck, I should be back sometime early next week, but that is not certain yet. At least sometime early next week I will send out an update even if I am not able to work on the Digest at that time. I hope *your* summer is a pleasant one! PAT ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #297 ****************************** Received: from delta.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa17590; 28 Jun 95 4:13 EDT Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA24060 for telecomlist-outbound; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 21:09:07 -0500 Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA24046; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 21:09:04 -0500 Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 21:09:04 -0500 From: TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson) Message-Id: <199506280209.VAA24046@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #298 TELECOM Digest Tue, 27 Jun 95 21:09:00 CDT Volume 15 : Issue 298 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson India May End Absurd Datacom Licence Fees (Rishab A. Ghosh) Bell Canada Announces Internet Access (Terry Flanagan) Book Review: "The Complete Idiot's Guide to the World Wide Web" (R. Slade) MFS Intelnet Slow to Install; Blame on NYNEX? (Bradley Ward Allen) *67 & *82 Behavior With LDDS/WilTel 800 Numbers From Manhattan (B. Allen) Is This Message, and its Author, For Real? (TELECOM Digest Editor) I May Have Good News to Report on Thursday (TELECOM Digest Editor) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of public service systems and networks including Compuserve and America On Line. It is also gatewayed to Usenet where it appears as the moderated newsgroup 'comp.dcom.telecom'. Subscriptions are available to qualified organizations and individual readers. Write and tell us how you qualify: * telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu * The Digest is edited, published and compilation-copyrighted by Patrick Townson of Skokie, Illinois USA. You can reach us by postal mail, fax or phone at: 9457-D Niles Center Road Skokie, IL USA 60076 Phone: 500-677-1616 Fax: 708-329-0572 ** Article submission address only: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu ** Our archives are located at lcs.mit.edu and are available by using anonymous ftp. The archives can also be accessed using our email information service. For a copy of a helpful file explaining how to use the information service, just ask. ************************************************************************* * TELECOM Digest is partially funded by a grant from the * * International Telecommunication Union (ITU) in Geneva, Switzerland * * under the aegis of its Telecom Information Exchange Services (TIES) * * project. Views expressed herein should not be construed as represent-* * ing views of the ITU. * ************************************************************************* Additionally, the Digest is funded by gifts from generous readers such as yourself who provide funding in amounts deemed appropriate. Your help is important and appreciated. A suggested donation of twenty dollars per year per reader is considered appropriate. See our address above. All opinions expressed herein are deemed to be those of the author. Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rishab@arbornet.org Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 15:05:39 -0500 Subject: India May End Absurd Datacom Licence Fees India's Department of Telecommunications charges BBSes $50,000 and e-mail providers $80,000 in annual licence fees, though few pay. I spoke to R K Takkar, Secretary DoT and Chaiman Telecom Commission, who admitted he needed to "be educated" on the differences between telecom and datacom economic models. Although the comment of P N Bhagwati, a former Chief Justice of India known for strong views on rights, that the licence fees would be struck down in court, is in another article, this one details the DoT's present and possible future datacom policy. (C) Copyright 1995 Deus X Machina, Rishab Aiyer Ghosh. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. The Indian Techonomist, Sample issue, June 1995 Bandwidth restraint How excessive regulation hurts India's promising data communications industry, and what the government appears willing do about it. When, three years ago, India's Department of Telecommunications (DoT) allowed the entry of the private sector into the "value-added services" - a quaint term including everything from electronic mail to radio paging - it ignored reality. It did so again in a strange notification last year, where it announced annual licence fees of Rs 2.5 million ($80,000) for e-mail providers and Rs 1.5 million ($50,000) for bulletin board services. Electronic bulletin boards (BBSes) had been active since at least 1991 in India's major cities; with its notification, far from "constantly endeavouring to upgrade technologies," as it claimed, the DoT became the major impediment to the growth of Indian datacom. The value of India's data communications market (including fax and networking products) has been estimated at $150 million this year by Voice and Data magazine. Indians took quite rapidly to fax, once import duties were low enough for reasonable prices. They are taking as well as they can to e-mail, given the limited opportunities, thanks to the DoT. Astonishingly the DoT is not posing obstacles deliberately, but is just not aware of the differences between the economic models of datacom and telecom - it can't tell a modem from a phone. This should change soon, for two reasons. First, the 110-year-old Indian Telegraph Act, from which the DoT draws its power, is under attack from several directions (see ITK_ITA) - although changes to such entrenched legislation take time. More encouraging is the attitude of the DoT itself, or at least of its Secretary, R K Takkar. In an exclusive interview for The Indian Techonomist Mr Takkar expressed the DoT's willingness to change the way it behaves towards datacom. He accepted that licence fees "should not be looked upon as a source of revenue" - answering the concern that the DoT wanted a share in the earnings of datacom service providers over and above that from the considerable additional telephone traffic generated. He said the intention of the DoT should not be to make money, and that "at best the government is entitled to recover its administrative costs" through such fees. The sole purpose of licencing, Mr Takkar maintained, was to ensure that the prospective service provider "is earnest about that business, [will] be able to provide a public service," and, echoing India's suspicion of foreigners' intentions, "is a responsible citizen or company." When it was pointed out that excessive fees curtail the spread of electronic networks in the country, Mr Takkar agreed that "licence fees should not be fixed [at a point that] stifles the growth of the services" as the primary focus "should be on the widest possible provision of the service." Widespread access to data communications services, he reiterated, "should be the only objective of determining the level of licence fee," and offered to "give a serious relook" to the current fee structure. Mr Takkar was quick to appreciate the distinction between the huge investment requirements of telecommunications infrastructure and the distributed, small-scale nature of Internet and other electronic networking services. When it was suggested that India was poised for the proliferation of small Internet service providers, as in the US, if it were not for the DoT's licencing policies, he repeatedly expressed that he was open to further inputs. "I would greatly appreciate meeting [knowledgeable people from the industry]" said Mr Takkar, "I'd like to be educated." TECHONOMIST COPYRIGHT NOTICE AND SUBSCRIPTION (C) Copyright 1995 Deus X Machina, Rishab Aiyer Ghosh. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. This article has been licenced for commercial electronic reproduction in TELECOM Digest. Outside the Digest, this article may be redistributed in electronic form only, provided that the article and this notice remain intact. This article may not under any circumstances be redistributed or resold in any non-electronic form, or for compensation of any kind, without prior written permission from Rishab Aiyer Ghosh (rishab@arbornet.org) This article is from the Indian Techonomist (http://www.c2.org/~rishab/techonomist/), the newsletter on India's information industry. Annual subscription (monthly print edition plus e-mail bulletins) is for US$ 595 or equivalent. For information, contact Rishab Ghosh by e-mail at rishab@arbornet.org, call +91 11 6853410 or post to H-34-C Saket, New Delhi 110017, INDIA. Rishab Aiyer Ghosh "Dare I eat a peach?" - TSE rishab@dxm.ernet.in <---------------------- temporarily out of order rishab@arbornet.org <---------------------------------- use this one Voice +91 11 6853410; By horse: H 34C Saket, New Delhi 110017, INDIA ------------------------------ From: Terry Flanagan Subject: Bell Canada Announces Internet Access Organization: Bell Canada Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 20:09:01 GMT Bell Canada announces details about new Internet Access Service (June 21, 1995) -- Bell Canada, participating in the first Canadian Internet Conference, today revealed details of the framework for the Internet access service it plans to launch before the end of 1995. Our proposal, still to be finalized, will provide residence and small business customers throughout Bell's territory with reliable, high quality and competitively priced access to the Internet. Bell's service will be offered in both English and French. Currently, Internet access service is offered to large business customers through Worldlinx. The internet conference was held between June 20-22, 1995, at Carleton University in Ottawa. The Service Bell's package will offer dial-up Internet access for single users in a residence or business environment. In addition to affordable access, we will provide easy-to-use software. As a complete Internet package, Bell Canada will offer home access to electronic mail, over 10,000 professional discussion newsgroups and global information sites like gopher and the World Wide Web, and access to a call centre to which customers can call for information and assistance. Bell's Internet access service will be offered through WorldLinx Telecommunications Inc. (a Bell Canada company). Currently, WorldLinx offers fully dedicated corporate high speed (56 kb/s and above) Internet access services over WorldLinx LAN/WAN and Stentor Hyperstream networks. This service includes full Internet access (World Wide Web, FTP, Telnet, news feeds, etc.) domain name and IP address registration. As well, WorldLinx offers e-mail access to the Internet via TheNet:Mail. The exact size of the Internet can only be estimated; however, it is growing exponentially, approximately doubling in size each year, and has been doing so for at least the past six years. Each year there are as many new people on the Internet as all the people on the Internet the year before. Worldwide, there are 80,000 new users joining the Internet every day. In Canada, a growing number of telephone companies are already offering Internet access packages. Bell is responding to the growing demand from our customers to provide them with full Internet access service. A task force has been formed to develop a full-service, customer-focused product. Our vision of the Internet is "Experience the World with Bell". Access to the service will be affordable. It will provide customers with a whole new range of choices -- in learning, entertainment and shopping. Above all, the customer will be in control. To find out more about Bell Canada, visit our Web site at: http://www.bell.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 12:11:10 EST From: Rob Slade Subject: Book Review: "The Complete Idiot's Guide to the World Wide Web" BKCIGWWW.RVW 950420 "The Complete Idiot's Guide to the World Wide Web", Kent, 1995, 1-56761-542-2, U$16.99/C$23.95/UK#13.95 %A Peter Kent pkent@lab-press.com %C 201 W. 103rd Street, Indianapolis, IN 46290 %D 1995 %G 1-56761-542-2 %I Alpha Books %O U$16.99/C$23.95/UK#13.95 800-858-7674 75141.2102@compuserve.com %P 370 %S Complete Idiot's Guide ... %T "The Complete Idiot's Guide to the World Wide Web" Of the many books currently available on the topic of the World Wide Web, some specialize in HTML (HyperText Markup Language) explanation, some just enthuse, and a *lot* specialize in the Mosaic browser. Most general guides, though, tend to dedicate the bulk of the pages to various Web sites and presentations. (Screen dumps are a very quick way to fill up space.) Kent doesn't do as much of this, and uses the space saved to produce the most complete description of WWW that I have yet reviewed. After the four chapters of general introduction in part one, part two provides a raft of information on text, graphical, DOS, Windows, Mac, UNIX and other browsers. Even W3 by mail gets mentioned. Part three gives some background on establishing a dial-up IP connection. (Familiarity with modem commands and the Kermit scripting language would be a help.) The array of client browsers is presented, with some analysis, in part four, while the actual operation of the client software (mostly Netscape and InternetWorks) is detailed in part five. A quick, but useful, guide to HTML makes up part six. And, not to be left out, part seven is a list of W3 sites -- and archives for related software. The breadth of scope in the book is at some expense of accuracy, particularly in terms of browser features. The desire to be current has led to an annoying number of "stop press" comments -- some run into the paragraphs they are meant to correct. Originally, the author seems to have planned to include InternetWorks with the book. Some comments would indicate that the developers withdrew permission at the last minute and that not all references were removed. Also, some of the material is a bit disorganized. The documentation for text browsers appears in part two, while the operation of graphical browsers is described in part four. A combined overview might have contributed to overall understanding. Still, even with these flaws, I highly recommend this to anyone who wants to understand, connect to, use, or start providing information on the World Wide Web. copyright Robert M. Slade, 1995 BKCIGWWW.RVW 950420. Distribution permitted in TELECOM Digest and associated publications. Rob Slade's book reviews are a regular feature in the Digest. Vancouver roberts@decus.ca | You realize, of Institute for Robert_Slade@sfu.ca | course, that these Research into Rob.Slade@f733.n153.z1/ | new facts do not User .fidonet.org | coincide with my Security Canada V7K 2G6 | preconceived ideas ------------------------------ From: ulmo@panix.com (Bradley Ward Allen) Subject: MFS Intelenet Slow to Install; Blame on NYNEX? Date: 26 Jun 1995 21:55:03 -0400 Organization: URL:http://www.armory.com/~ulmo/ (see rivers.html for PGP key) Two months ago, in mid to late April on a Saturday afternoon, while sitting in a friend's TV cable-enabled apartment in Chelsea region of Manhattan, I viewed a television commercial for MFS local phone service. A week later (after wandering various phone books and calling various numbers) I ordered two MFS telephone lines for my residence (not far from there, also in Manhattan). The sales person, very polite and cooperative sounding, eventually worked out all the paperwork necessary and threw in an extra line for free. The cost was amazing -- I forget exactly, but $14.50 per month per line comes to mind. I was told every feature NYNEX offers on a line is offered by MFS for no additional cost to their monthly fee. Also installation is free. However, there are a few glitches: A) I'm in the order stage now where NYNEX has to do something (I think the part NYNEX has to do is install the lines and route them to the MFS equipment co-located in the office for my area, as well as set up a call-forwarding for the one number I chose to keep the same). This has lasted at least two months. Repeated calls to the sales person go ignored; perhaps she's inundated with these status requests? I haven't had an update or any word for about six weeks or so, except for today I received a mail with the number for MFS's customer service when I do get my service working. A good sign. B) How can they offer all the same features as NYNEX and know what I want? I want, and already have just about everything: Call Display (name also would be nice), call forwarding (delayed and busy and other types would be nice as well) with the ability to change it remotely, call waiting, three-way, white pages on modem, and a few other things I forget. Somehow this seems too good to be true, but then I'll find out the details when everything gets installed, possibly before if they call with info & questions about final installation. To their credit, they are in a new market, and they did say it might take a month to get things in order from NYNEX's end, although it's been two months already. But I can't yet comment on their service, per-call costs, etc. as those details aren't yet forthcoming. I do have some contact information for those of you who wish to experience this fun little exercise in yet more ways to hate NYNEX with an indirect, free-market twist or two with yet more possibilities of telephone schizophrenia and disgust as well as a possible, eventual, metamorphosis of pros and cons: MFS Intelenet, Inc. 1-800-938-MFSI (1-800-938-6374) FAX 1-212-843-7748 == 1-201-938-7748 (those numbers are the same line) 101 Hudson St Ste 2200 Jersey City NJ 07302-3989 That was the information given for customer service in the standard new-line mailing letter I received today. I'll note that calling 1-212-843-7700 reaches a receptionist, and I would infer from everything I know that 1-201-938-7700 is the same number (1-201-938-xxxx seems to be equal to 1-212-843-xxxx; I hope I get a 1-212-843 number :) ------------------------------ From: ulmo@panix.com (Bradley Ward Allen) Subject: *67 & *82 Behavior With LDDS/WilTel 800 Numbers From Manhattan Date: 26 Jun 1995 22:10:59 -0400 Organization: URL:http://www.armory.com/~ulmo/ (see rivers.html for PGP key) Dialing from my local exchange on one of my phones served by NYNEX W18th St office in Manhattan, I tried my own 800 numbers and my WilTel long-distance calling cards with their 800 number access to call my other line in my apartment. In all cases, the behavior was as follows: *67: When I first dialed *67, my number display box said "Private". *82: When I first dialed *82, my number display box showed the phone number I was calling from. No prefix: The default on my line is to allow number display, and the number was displayed. I have yet to report on what happens when my friend in California prefixes my 800 numbers or using my calling cards with *67 from pay phones or other phones. Right now, calling my 800 number from California displays the number of the caller on my number display box. I was lucky to get 800 numbers which have no previous history and no mass numbers of misdialers; only one mother from somewhere in 404 has dialed me five times as a misdial of her son's number that she uses, and by now has gotten accurate enough in her dialing that she hasn't made the mistake in months. But all the numbers she's called from have displayed on my number display box. While this all tentatively makes some sense to me, it raises some interesting questions about what is really going on and what's intended, i.e., ANI vs. (other?) SS7 data types. Should I continue to report more of this stuff? How do the latest FCC decrees apply here? Bradley [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Yes, by all means continue to make reports like this when you have them. I am rather amazed that *67 was honored when an 800 number was being dialed. Tell us if it is honored when your monthly billing arrives with the numbers listed on that. Also, what does *82 do in your case? PAT] ------------------------------ From: TELECOM Digest Editor Subject: Is This Message, and its Author, For Real? Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 20:35:00 CDT I saw this in the most recent issue of Computer Underground Digest. Jim Thomas is usually rather prudent about what he publishes, so I assume he has done at least some verification of the following: Date: Fri, 23 Jun 95 14:09:15 EDT From: "W. K. (Bill) Gorman" <34AEJ7D@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU> Subject: FBI to search 30,000+ US homes/businesses FBI plans to search upwards of 30,000 American homes and businesses were "leaked" in a VERY BRIEF mention on the Rush Limbaugh show 6/21/95. Mr. Limbaugh referred to a USA Today article, presumably of the same date, which referenced a newspaper in CT as the original source. According to the article, the FBI, apparently in anticipation of the passage of the Constitution-aborting Anti-Terrorism bill AND the equally totalitarian Exon "Communications 'Decency' Act" which has been attached to the Telecom Reform Act, has leaked plans to conduct SEARCHES OF THE HOMES AND BUSINESSES OF 30,000+ AMERICANS. Their rationale for this is the claim that these persons - now get this - MAY HAVE VIEWED some form of "child pornography", real or morphed, on their PC screens sometime in the past. Articles describing this totalitarian lunacy have also appeared in the Fort Wayne newspaperson 6/21/95. No mention of it that I am aware of from TV journalists. No guts, guys? Will the feds find it expedient to seize every single piece of computer equipment found in these homes, along with any firearms, cash, jewelry, other valuables or financial records, regardless of whether or not anything actually ILLEGAL is found? Past performance indicates that this is likely to be the case. How many innocent Americans will be killed in these raids? How many children? How many pets will be tortured to death for the amusement of those conducting the raid, as was the kitten which was stomped to death by a rogue BATF agent during the infamous Lamplugh raid, as revealed during testimony before the Senate Judiciary Terrorism Subcommittee? Why is anyone who would perform such a psychotic act permitted to hold a position of responsibility in government service or law enforcement? Has Congress lost all touch with reality? Are they TRYING to see how many ways they can find to force Americans into the burgeoning militias? Are they TRYING to make the appellation "jack-booted thugs" actually synonimous with all federal law enforcement personnel? W. K. Gorman Copyright (C) 1995 by W. K. Gorman. With explicit reservation of all rights, exclusively and without prejudice, per UCC 1-207. Any commercial or for-profit use of all or any part of this message, in any form, is expressly forbidden. Opinions are my own. [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: If this is true -- if these intentions are accurately stated, then I cannot imagine that the mainline media has not jumped into the fray. I'd like to know if Limbaugh actually said it (I do not listen to his program) and if he did say it if he quoted the 'newspaper in CT' where it supposedly appeared, and if that is the way it actually read in the paper, etc. It seems to me we have enough to be legitimatly paranoid enough about these days without adding some sort of second- and third-hand nonsense that someone else may or may not have said. Remember the childhood game called 'Chinese Telephone'? A large group of people stand in a circle. The first person writes down *exactly* what he says to the next person, then he *whispers* it one time, and one time only. The next person whispers what he thinks he heard to the third person and so on around the circle from a dozen mouths to a dozen different ears. No one is permitted to repeat the message; they can utter it one time only in a whisper to the person next to them. Finally it comes full circle and the last person says out loud the messsage, for better or worse, that originally started. Then the originator reads the exact words of the original message. The difference by the time it reaches the end of the line can often times be hysterical. So, what did Limbaugh *really* say -- if he said anything at all -- about planned FBI raids? What did the newspaper say, and where was its information taken from? Is that too much to ask, so we can all be paranoid together or conversely all laugh together at this latest round of nonsense? PAT] ------------------------------ From: TELECOM Digest Editor Subject: I May Have Good News to Report on Thursday Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 20:56:00 CDT Watch this space for possibly some EXPLOSIVE news on Thursday evening or Friday. I won't say a thing until/unless it becomes reality. I've heard too many 'check is in the mail' excuses in the past (hint!) to embarass myself by saying something prematurely. But maybe by this weekend, I'll have some good news indeed for Digest readers. I was taking some time off this week and will go back to doing so after tonight for another day or so ... PAT ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #298 ****************************** Received: from delta.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa19910; 28 Jun 95 7:10 EDT Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA25146 for telecomlist-outbound; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 22:27:34 -0500 Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA25138; Tue, 27 Jun 1995 22:27:32 -0500 Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 22:27:32 -0500 From: TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson) Message-Id: <199506280327.WAA25138@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #299 TELECOM Digest Tue, 27 Jun 95 22:27:00 CDT Volume 15 : Issue 299 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson India's Telecom Strike Ends; 80 Bids For Basic Services (Rishab A. Ghosh) 800 Article in July 3 Business Week (Judith Oppenheimer) Answers to Your 800 Warehousing Questions (Judith Oppenheimer) Meeting on Toll Free 888 Database Set (Bob Keller) Telecom News in the Netherlands From the Past Week (Alex van Es) Writing a Network Performance Application (Julia Jackson) East Coast Reseller News: Unitel (Henry Li) Book Review: "Living at Light Speed" by Goodman (Rob Slade) Cord Board Still in Use (Lou Jahn) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of public service systems and networks including Compuserve and America On Line. It is also gatewayed to Usenet where it appears as the moderated newsgroup 'comp.dcom.telecom'. Subscriptions are available to qualified organizations and individual readers. 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Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 27 Jun 95 19:11 WET From: rishab@m-net.arbornet.org (Rishab Aiyer Ghosh) Subject: India's Telecom Strike Ends; 80 Bids For Basic Services --==(C) Copyright 1995 Rishab Aiyer Ghosh (rishab@arbornet.org) Indian telecom strike ends; 80 bids for basic services 23rd June 1995: The "indefinite" nationwide telecom workers' strike ended today morning. The strikers protested against the entry of foreign investors in basic telecom services, especially when public sector companies such as ITI (which made its first loss in this, its 47th year) are not being permitted to participate in the bids. Minister for Communications Sukh Ram last night threatened dismissal of more than 400,000 workers who joined the stike, which had been declared illegal. This was an unusual move, considering that the government still does not allow corporate bankruptcy and lay-offs. Meanwhile, 80 bids were announced for the tender for basic telecom services. 16 companies, all joint ventures between Indian firms and foreign firms (with a maximum 49% holding for the latter), bid for all regions ('circles') of the country apart from the troubled northern state of Jammu and Kashmir. The biggest bidder by far was by Reliance Corp, collaborating with America's Nynex. Reliance, a huge industrial conglomerate with more shareholders than any other company in the world, was the only bidder for many poor and remote states that came into the tender's 'C' category. US West, which is conducting a controversial pilot project in rural telephony in south India, only bid for fairly wealthy parts of the country along with its Indian partner, BPL. India's capital, Delhi, was the most popular, perhaps because Bombay, the richest market, came along with the rest of the state of Maharashtra. Foreign collaborators included Bell Atlantic, Hughes, NTT, AT&T, Deutsche Telecom, Telstra, Telecom Malaysia and Israel's Bezeq. Notable absentees were Singapore Telecom, Bell South, France Telecom and GTE, all of which had previously formed joint ventures with Indian firms. Two surprises were Moscow Teqlecom, which bid for really backward areas including the remote Andaman and Nicobar islands south of Myanmar, and PTT Guangdong of China, which played safe with Delhi. Compared to the response from 32 companies for the nationwide cellular services tender on June 7th, that for basic services today was thought low-key. The complete list of bids will be made available in the Telecom Archives (ftp://lcs.mit.edu/telecom-archives/) next week. --==(C) Copyright 1995 Rishab Aiyer Ghosh (rishab@arbornet.org) --==May be distributed electronically provided that only compilation or --==transmission charges are applied. Other uses require written permission. Rishab Aiyer Ghosh For Electric Dreams subscriptions rishab@dxm.ernet.in and back issues, send a mail to rishab@arbornet.org rishab@arbornet.org with Vox +91 11 6853410 Voxmail 3760335 'help' in lower case, without H 34C Saket, New Delhi 110017, INDIA the quotes, as the Subject. ------------------------------ From: Judith Oppenheimer Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 01:26:35 -0400 Subject: 800 Article in July 3 Business Week A July 3, 1995 {Business Week} article reports that "toll-free 800 numbers are just about used up." It quotes attorney Colleen Bothby, who represents such big 800 users as General Electric and Bank of America, as saying that corporate America is "very, very concerned." The article goes on to explain that a surge in demand for the 800 exchange is partly due to the popularity of personal 800 numbers, such as those acquired for college kids' use. It also reports that if the current FCC ration doesn't work, the FCC may take back some unused 800 numbers. Main target, according to Business Week: phone companies stockpiling them. Regarding branded 800's, the article says that many companies with well-known 800 numbers -- American Express, for instance, which has 1-800-THE-CARD -- are worried someone could grab the corresponding number on the 888 exchange. It says the FCC may solve that by just eliminating these popular numbers from 888. Judith Oppenheimer Interactive CallBrand(TM) email: Producer@pipeline.com phone: 212 684-7210, fax: 212 684-2714 Bridging the Gap Between Telecom & Marketing [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: You know, my heart really bleeds for those people. If Amex is going to dictate what numbers they will and won't allow to appear in 888, then I want to do the same. I want the FCC to eliminate all of my personal 800 numbers from duplication on 888, and also on 011-800 for that matter. Do you think they will do it for me? How in the world could anyone with a bit of brains manage to mistake 888 for 800 in dialing? I have a few problems with much of 'corporate America' anyway, but I guess my major hassle is with the arrogance so many of them are exhibiting where something as simple as a telephone number is concerned. PAT] ------------------------------ From: Judith Oppenheimer Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 09:17:42 -0400 Subject: Answers to Your 800 Warehousing Questions On Thu, 22 Jun 1995 TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson) said: > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I thought the term 'warehousing' and the > implications thereof only applied to carriers -- not to end users. Actually, RespOrgs/carriers "hoard." Re accusations of user "warehousing", there is tariff language among some carriers, imposed contractually on users, that classifies "brokering" and "warehousing", separately or together, as "fraud and abuse." "Fraud and abuse", traditionally applied to such illegal activities as selling non-existent real estate by phone, or faking a dial tone, provide for the only enforcement -- confiscation -- that carriers have against users. In addition to confiscation, it also provides for revocation of portability. Needless to say, neither "brokering" nor "warehousing" are illegal activities. "Brokering" is simply defined as "releasing for a fee.". That places every telemarketing company - and all the companies like 1-800 DENTIST - in contract violation, if their carrier is AT&T or one of the other carriers that use this tariff language. "Warehousing" applies to the very scenario you outline below. > For example, suppose I as an end user have a dozen or a half-dozen > 800 numbers which I pay some carrier to supply to me. Now suppose for > my own convenience I choose not to use several of those 800 numbers, > simply holding them until I need them -- but I *am* paying the carrier > some monthly fee for these. Am I 'warehousing' the numbers and subject > to having them confiscated? Yes, according to AT&T's 800 tariff. > How is it my service can be taken away from me based on > how much or how little I choose to use it as long as I am paying the > monthly minimum? Patrick, by using AT&T, you are in contractual obligation with their 800 tariff, and you are voluntarily agreeing to these terms. The obvious remedy is to port to a different carrier that does not include this language in its tariff. FYI, AT&T "anti-warehousing" language was quietly slipped into their 800 tariff about a year ago. It was submitted to the FCC in the same document with the anti-pay for 800 MCI 1 800 CALL INFO that got so much publicity. Furthermore, the tariff language contains no parameters of minimum usage, packaging (telemarketing, enhanced 800, etc.) or application (seasonal marketing, etc.). The language is openly arbitrary and capricious, and enforceable at the whim of the carrier. > Tell me this Judith: the 'property rights in 800 numbers' that you and > many others espouse; does this hold true also for small residential 800 > number users such as myself or am I going to wake up some day in the > future and find myself getting hustled by some large company in dire need > of an 800 number who can't get one and decides to rip-off mine one way > or another? What if I have two 800 numbers here, or five or ten? Is > someone going to come along and say 'big business needs those more than > you do' and grab them from me? What's your outlook on this? PAT] Good questions, Patrick. I'm a marketing person, so my response takes a marketing point of view. Our engineer would probably add a technical twist, our attorney, the legal ramifications. So from my point of view: Toll-free service for non-commercial applications (residential and data service) is a valid and valuable product characteristic. There *is* one characteristic of *800* toll-free service -- mass consumer branding -- that is not relevant for residential or data use. We propose that residential and data services be moved to a new toll-free NPA -- preferably one that does not confuse consumers via use of "8--". So that residential and pager services, for example, can retain toll-free benefits, without infringing on the trademarks, consumer traffic, and business utility of *800* toll-free. FYI, at the recent 888 Implementation Meeting at the FCC, representatives of the pager industry had no objections to this. Judith Oppenheimer Interactive CallBrand(TM) email: Producer@pipeline.com phone: 212 684-7210, fax: 212 684-2714 Bridging the Gap Between Telecom & Marketing [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Well, I don't know about representatives of the pager industry, but I want to keep my 800 numbers just as Amex and the florist want to keep theirs. You mention tariff language used by AT&T, but since I don't have them as my 800 carrier, I guess whatever they propose to do in their tariffs is of no concern to me. I hope there is major resistance by residential and small business users of 800 service to any plan to force us off of 800 and into some other NPA. Heck, let Amex and the florist move if they don't like our company. If they get property rights in their numbers then I get property rights in mine also, right? PAT] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 16:11:57 EDT From: Bob Keller Subject: Meeting on Toll Free 888 Database Set FCC Announces Second Meeting to Discuss Acceleration of Toll Free 888 Database The FCC will hold the second in a series of meetings with the industry to discuss ways to accelerate deployment of the new toll free 888 area code. These meetings are part of the Commission's overall plan to conserve use of the existing toll free 800 numbers and accelerate the availability of the new toll free 888 numbers. This meeting on Wednesday, June 28, 1995 will begin at 9:00 a.m. and is open to the public. The meeting will be held at Bellcore, Room B1-B2, 2101 L Street, N.W., Washington, D.C. A tentative agenda is attached. This second meeting will include reports from various industry segments, including local exchange carriers, SCP vendors and switch vendors, on ways to accelerate deployment of the 888 database. The first 888 deployment meeting was held on June 15. Future meetings will be held approximately every two weeks throughout planning for 888 deployment. All meetings will be open to the public. Documents from these meetings will be available for public viewing the day after each meeting at the FCC, 2025 M Street, N.W., Room 6010, between 9 a.m. and 5 p.m. Copies of these documents may be purchased from the Commission's duplicating contractor, International Transcription Services, (202) 857-3800. The FCC is holding these meetings as part of its overall effort to smooth the transition from the existing toll free 800 number system to the new toll free 888 system. The FCC continues to work with the 800 service provider industry to conserve the existing 800 numbers and to ensure the efficient use of these resources. Questions about this meeting should be directed to Mary De Luca at (202) 418-1500. Portable 888 Implementation Meeting June 28, 1995 Tentative Agenda 1. 9:00 to 9:10 Introductions of attendees 2. 9:10 to 9:20 Updated Status of 800 Numbers by Michael Wade, President, Database Service Management, Inc. (DSMI) 3. 9:20 to 9:35 Revised Schedule for RBOC 888 Implementation by National 800 Product Team 4. 9:35 to 10:20 888 Readiness Report - Vendors Bellcore (SCP & SMS), NorTel, Erisson and Seimans 5. 10:20 to 10:50 888 Readiness Report - Interexchange Carriers LDDS/Wiltel, CompTel 6. 10:50 to 11:30 888 Updated Readiness Report from Large Local Exchange Carriers - GTE, United, SNET, Cincinnati Bell 7. 11:30 to 12:45 Updated Readiness Report from Regional Bell Operating Companies - Ameritech, Bell Atlantic, BellSouth, NYNEX, Pacific Bell, SBC, USWest 8. 12:45 Wrap-up Ported from ftp.fcc.gov by: Bob Keller (KY3R) mailto:rjk@telcomlaw.com Robert J. Keller, P.C. http://www.clark.net/pub/rjk/ Telecommunications Law ftp://ftp.eznet.net/pub/telcomlaw/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 13:48:27 +0200 From: Alex@Worldaccess.NL (Alex) Subject: Telecom News in the Netherlands From the Past Week On the Dutch telecom field there has been quite some news this past week. On Wednesday the competitor of the Dutch PTT, Enertel fell apart. Enertel was a consortium between the Dutch railways, the joined cable providers and the American Bell-South. The plan was to set up a joined network and be operational in 1998. Due to internal disputes the coalition fell apart. Main subject was the fact that the cable providers wanted to set up regional networks besides the national network. The Dutch railways didn't agree with this, and so now they are both going to try to get their own licence and set up their own network. Problem in this matter is that current law in the Netherlands only allows one competitor on the field of ground connections. Other news is that in some small town in the province of North-Holland PTT Telecom is going to test new service which will make it possible to rent a voicemailbox at the PTT switching. Then when the subscribers number is busy or not answering the call will be forwarded to the voicemail service. Rates are about US $4,00 a month. For listening to your messages one will be charged a local call. If the experiment is successful the new service will be offered nation wide somewhere in the beginning of 1996. Just like the voice mail service, call waiting is also being tested in some towns, and expected to be nation wide in 1996 or 1997. PTT Telecom also announced that caller ID is going to be available to customers in the near future. Yet, myself I am doubting if this is all going to happen this fast, since it is considered an invasion of privacy, and some consumer unions have objections against it. And to end this message, the second GSM network called MT-2 changed it's name to Libertel. Alex van Es Alex@Worldaccess.NL, Apeldoorn, The Netherlands Phone:+31-55-421184 Pager:+31-6-59333551 (Greenpoint!) ------------------------------ From: juls@pixie.co.za (Julia Jackson) Subject: Writing a Network Performance Application Date: 27 Jun 1995 12:35:51 GMT Organization: PiX - Proxima information X-change We are two fourth year Electrical Engineering students who need to write an application which will communicate with an Ethernet card to obtain the following information online: size, number and destination addresses of all frames sent on an Ethernet LAN, so that we can build an application which measures network performance. Thus far, a number of approaches have been suggested: 1. Write a Windows application, and write the TCP/IP layers ourselves. 2. Write a Windows application by interfacing with Winsock. 3. Write a DOS application, with assembler code to capture frames and place them in a buffer. ANY help and suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Julia Jackson and Terry Angelos University of the Witwatersrand Johannesburg South Africa juls@pixie.co.za ------------------------------ From: Henry Li Subject: East Coast Reseller News: Unitel Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 00:50:54 EDT [River Edge, New Jersey] A major east coast reseller(Unitel/Totaltel)of the WILTEL Network has developed an aggressive Business Development Plan for agents of telecommunications services. The plan is designed to facilitate agent recruitment by allowing you to offer your agents the same aggressive compensation you receive. They in turn can offer their agents the same compensation which they are receiving. In this manner, you are encouraged to develop an extensive network of sub-agents and will derive significant overrides on their sales. When combined with the substantial commissions you will receive from direct sales, and even higher Incentive Commis- sions, your revenues WILL increase. Following is a basic commission chart. For details, please send email to abc@dorsai.org or call (718)539-6134 It's totally free to be an agent for the first year. COMMISSION SCHEDULES AGENCY BUSINESS VOLUME DOMESTIC SWITCHED +---------+-----------------------+------------------------+ | Rate | Interstate |Intrastate/International| | | | Travel Cards | +---------+----------+------------+------------+-----------+ | | Standard | with "IC"* | Standard | with "IC"*| +---------+----------+------------+------------+-----------+ | .119 | 4% | 5.2% | 10% | 13% | +---------+----------+------------+------------+-----------+ | .129 | 9% | 11.7% | 10% | 13% | +---------+----------+------------+------------+-----------+ | .139 | 14% | 18.2% | 10% | 13% | +---------+----------+------------+------------+-----------+ | .149 | 18% | 23.4% | 10% | 13% | +---------+----------+------------+------------+-----------+ | .159 | 22% | 28.6% | 10% | 13% | +---------+----------+------------+------------+-----------+ | .169 | 26% | 33.8% | 10% | 13% | +---------+----------+------------+------------+-----------+ * Incentive Commission ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 17:45:56 EST From: Rob Slade Subject: Book Review: "Living at Light Speed" by Goodman BKLIVLHT.RVW 950425 "Living At Light Speed", Goodman, 1994, 0-679-43934-X, U$21.00/C$28.95/UK#19.49 %A Danny Goodman %C 201 E. 50th St., 31st Floor, New York, NY 10022 %D 1994 %G 0-679-43934-X %I Random House %O U$21.00/C$28.95/UK#19.49 212-751-2600 800-733-3000 800-726-0600 %O abiggert@randomhouse.com 74261,2352 fax: 212-967-7292 (Nolan/Lehr) %P 244 %T "Living At Light Speed" Goodman, in the Preface, inveighs against the sensational, incomplete, and misleading accounts of the "Information Superhighway" in the popular media. Then, in the first paragraph of chapter one, he states that if you could hear digital signals you would somehow have an understanding of this coming technology. I've often listened to digital signals. They sound like Beethoven's Ninth Symphony (on CD-ROM), nothing (the speeds of modern computers render even the hiss of interference inaudibly above the range of human hearing), or static (when listening in on modem "conversations"). While it may be fun (my wife has determined that the negotiation of a V.32bis/V.42bis modem calling a V.32 modem with LAP-M error correction and non-MNP data compression exactly reproduces the opening phrase of the song "Misty"), it doesn't tell you anything about advanced communications technology, or its impact on society. This book does provide a broad overview of the myriad technologies which might (no one knows what will) make up the Information Superhighway. It is more objective, and less prone to hyperbole and cant, than others I've reviewed in this general area. Note, however, that it is lacking in analytical rigour, research (Pareto. The 80/20 rule is the "Pareto Principle". You're welcome.), and even a basic familiarity with the common technologies. The Internet is introduced with references to the military and governmental impetus for the ARPAnet project. Goodman then goes on to describe Usenet news, ignoring the fact that news is not, strictly speaking, an Internet application, and Usenet was never part of any government plan. A continued insistence on the lack of a "single" highway indicates that Goodman has no grasp of the concept of layered architectures. The jacket blurbs and the accompanying letter I received ("press materials"?) promote the book as a layman's guide. Fair enough. They would doubtless downplay the technical errors on that basis. Conceptual mistakes of this depth and scope, however, must seriously undermine the value of the book as a whole. You *will* find more here than in Time or Newsweek. But not much more. copyright Robert M. Slade, 1995 BKLIVLHT.RVW 950425. Distribution permitted in TELECOM Digest and associated publications. Rob Slade's book reviews are a regular feature in the Digest. DECUS Canada Communications, Desktop, Education and Security group newsletters Editor and/or reviewer ROBERTS@decus.ca, RSlade@sfu.ca, Rob Slade at 1:153/733 Author "Robert Slade's Guide to Computer Viruses" 0-387-94311-0/3-540-94311-0 ------------------------------ Date: 27 Jun 95 18:15:53 EDT From: Lou Jahn <71233.2444@compuserve.com> Subject: Cord Board Still in Use After reading the many excellent summaries of manual cord boards, I had to let you know some are still in use. I was recently on a consulting assignment looking at Telcom D'Haiti. While they have some 12+ PC based toll positions, they still have a live CORD BAORD with six positions. Half have been used to fix the other three, but those three are still used with Toll Tickets during peak traffic periods. It was rather startling since even with many other problems dues to Haiti's economics, the Telecom D'Haiti has fairly modern network service. the raved about the DMS-10 reliablility. So, who will start the rush to go "buy" Haiti's cord boards? Thanks to the contributors of the history. Lou Jahn / NJ [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: All of us who 'wrote' it respond that you are quite welcome, Lou. One of the reasons for so much history in this Digest is because of my firm belief that in the telecom industry in particular, so much of the way we do things now have firm roots in the way the industry started more than a century ago. PAT] ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #299 ****************************** Received: from ns1.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa21926; 6 Jul 95 16:14 EDT Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id GAA09572 for telecomlist-outbound; Thu, 6 Jul 1995 06:55:03 -0500 Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id GAA09564; Thu, 6 Jul 1995 06:55:01 -0500 Date: Thu, 6 Jul 1995 06:55:01 -0500 From: TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson) Message-Id: <199507061155.GAA09564@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #300 TELECOM Digest Thu, 6 Jul 95 06:55:00 CDT Volume 15 : Issue 300 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Thanks For Your Feedback on Microsoft (TELECOM Digest Editor) Book Review: "Internet Gizmos for Windows" (Rob Slade) Maryland Will Add Two New Area Codes (Paul Robinson) Rural Telephone Coops Make a Difference (Dean Hughson) AUDIO-NETWORKS and AUDIOTEX Mailing Lists (Lauren Weinstein) The Trouble With Those Cable and Phone Companies (Judith Lemon) Running Out of "800" Numbers (Martin Kealey) Dial 888 for Toll Free - Commentary: That's a Good Idea! (Paul Robinson) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of public service systems and networks including Compuserve and America On Line. It is also gatewayed to Usenet where it appears as the moderated newsgroup 'comp.dcom.telecom'. Subscriptions are available to qualified organizations and individual readers. 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Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TELECOM Digest Editor Subject: Thanks For Your Feedback on Microsoft Date: Thu, 06 Jul 1995 06:00:00 CDT Thanks very much to all of you who sent notes to Microsoft and/or myself with your thoughts on the new corporate sponsorship arrangement between this Digest and Microsoft. I hope this new sponsorship will enable the Digest to continue indefinitly and improve both in content and frequency of distribution. The Digest *will* remain editorially independent of Microsoft; of this I have been assured without question. PAT ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Jul 1995 05:08:53 EST From: Rob Slade Subject: Book Review: "Internet Gizmos for Windows" by Diamond/Sobel/Hilley BKINTGIZ.RVW 950511 "Internet Gizmos for Windows", Diamond/Sobel/Hilley, 1995, 1-56884-451-4 %A Joel Diamond 76702.1023@compuserve.com %A Howard Sobel %A Valda Hilley valda@cpress.com 72520.1710@compuserve.com %A Larry Budnick %A Howard Gold howard@savvy.com %C 155 Bovet Road, Suite 310, San Mateo, CA 94402 %D 1995 %G 1-56884-451-4 %I IDG Books %O 415-312-0650 fax: 415-286-2740 mkoloski@mcimail.com kaday@aol.com %P 913 %T "Internet Gizmos for Windows" I'm not quite sure how they come up with their numbers on the front cover, but inside there are chapters talking about thirty-nine packages of software for Windows or Windows NT. These are, variously, demo programs, shareware and freeware. The book chapters appear, for the most part, to be portions of the documentation for the programs. The printed material is not always clear about what the packages are, and what they contain. Do the Spry, Distinct and Frontier samplers come with SLIP software? What does "X-ray" actually do? Is "Sticky" just another form of email? Installation instructions are also problematic. The Trumpet WinSock seems to have SLIP capabilities, but the text keeps referring to network cards and drivers. This is particularly tragic, since almost all of the other programs require WinSock. The introduction states that the printed material should help you evaluate which packages to try. In some cases, the detailed documentation provides a good overview, but, in many cases, you won't know much more after reading a chapter than when you began. Since all of these packages appear to require a direct Internet connection, either dial-up IP or a dedicated network link, it could be argued that installation instructions are not needed, since you will be able to call on the services of your Internet provider's customer support, or the network support within your company. In that case, however, the bulk of the material available here will already be accessible online. copyright Robert M. Slade, 1995 BKINTGIZ.RVW 950511. Distribution permitted in TELECOM Digest and associated publications. Rob Slade's book reviews are a regular feature in the Digest. Vancouver ROBERTS@decus.ca | "The client interface Institute for Robert_Slade@sfu.ca | is the boundary of Research into Rob_Slade@mindlink.bc.ca | trustworthiness." User rslade@freenet.vancouver.bc.ca| - Tony Buckland, UBC Security Canada V7K 2G6 | ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Jul 1995 13:14:32 -0500 From: Paul Robinson Organization: Tansin A. Darcos & Company, Silver Spring, MD USA Subject: Maryland Will Add Two New Area Codes WMAL-AM 630 had two reports about Area codes during their drive-time show around 9:15am this morning. The first was about the new 888 area code for toll free calls, which was sent earlier. The second report stated that there are (as yet unnumbered) two additional area codes to be added to 301 and 410 in the State of Maryland. The report did not indicate if they would be used to split either or both area codes (my guess is that they want to change the numbers to make only numbers local to the Washington Metro area stay in 301, and move everyone else out of 301 to another area code, and maybe put Baltimore and local area in its own area code, and leave the rest either in 410 or give Baltimore the new area code. Considering that the State Capital in Annapolis acts like the only purpose of the Freestate's legislature is to pump money out of Montgomery County (where I live) and the rest of the state to subsidize the City of Baltimore, giving it its own brand new area code probably makes more sense, on the other hand, leaving it with the 410 area code and moving everyone outside of Baltimore to a new one is probably more appropriate to the favoritism the state has shown to that city! Further details on this important and life-critical change :) to this state's telephone area code system were not disclosed in the report. The host of the show noted that it seemed wasteful when a company had stationery made and their area code changes. It was not pointed out that usually six months to a year notice is given before the voluntary change-over period takes place, for which that is usually provided a six month minimum "grace period" before mandatory use takes effect. I think from the first announcement of 410 until it became mandatory was two years. So unless a company is in the habit of ordering three- and four-year supplies of letterheads, (which considering that even a small business can afford a computer with laser printer, or even a color inkjet if their letterhead is in color), it seems silly to raise that as an issue. Copyright 1996, Tansin A. Darcos & Company. Among other things, "Above All else...We shall go on..." we sell and service "_And continue!" ideas. Dial 1-800-TDARCOS, if you are looking for ideas for something, ideas and implementation, implementation of other people's ideas, including new products and services your company might be able to sell, contact us. ------------------------------ From: dean@primenet.com (Dean Hughson) Subject: Rural Telephone Coops Make a Difference Date: Wed, 5 Jul 1995 17:40:09 MST Organization: Primenet Rural telephone coops can make a major difference in the life of the rural communities if they emulate the good work of the RAIN group and its membership like Mid-Central Telephone,Green Hills,etc. Nearly 8,000 sq miles of rural northern Missouri is now covered by RAIN with affordable dialups. Here I am living 12 miles from a town of 886 and I have a dialup -- all I can say is thanks to telephone coops. If our country is to get 'wired' it is going to be through the efforts of big and small companies to do it ... anyway thought you folks, who are in the trenches, would find this of interest. *********************************************** For those who happen to be in the north central portion of Missouri, Green Hills Telephone Company has installed dialups for shell accounts in Chillicothe and Ludlow, Missouri. For information call 800-675-1440 instate or 816-644-2000. (Jim Simon is the President of Green Hills Telephone and could give folks information on this if needed.) This rural telephone coop is enabling people like me, who lives out in rural Missouri, to have affordable internet. There is a meeting tonite at the Chillicothe Missouri Library at 7 p.m. to kick off selling of accounts. Dean Hughson, Braymer Mo [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: What really good news this is! For so many years now, access to the net has been largely limited to larger communities. Its good to see all of you there getting on line. PAT] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jul 95 12:26 PDT From: lauren@vortex.com (Lauren Weinstein) Subject: AUDIO-NETWORKS and AUDIOTEX Mailing Lists Greetings. This is a reminder regarding two mailing lists of potential interest to TELECOM readers: --- AUDIO-NETWORKS --- The AUDIO-NETWORKS mailing list is a global Internet discussion forum for topic areas relating to the digital transmission of audio. This includes the range of systems useful for production, broadcast, studio, and other environments. The list's emphasis is on the professional use of these systems. Suggested areas for discussion include CODECs (and their various compression techniques), ISDN/Switched 56 (as they relate to digital audio transmission), deployed and planned digital audio networks (private, public, domestic, and global), and related systems and technologies. Operational hints, experiences, suggestions, and questions are invited. For more details, please send the text: information audio-networks as the first text in the body of a message to: audio-networks-request@vortex.com --- AUDIOTEX --- The AUDIOTEX mailing list is a global Internet discussion forum for topic areas relating to the field of "audiotex" systems. "Audiotex" is a general term covering the broad area of telephone-based information systems of a wide variety of types. The distinguishing characteristic of an audiotex system is usually the use of either recorded or synthesized voice to output information to the user, with either telephone touch-tone keys or in some cases voice recognition systems being used for input. Voicemail systems, information collection/retrieval systems, and entertain- ment services are all examples of audiotex applications. For more details, please send the text: information audiotex as the first text in the body of a message to: audiotex-request@vortex.com ======= Thanks much. --Lauren-- Vortex Technology "Professor Neon's TV & Movie Mania" Radio Program: http://www.vortex.com/ProfNeon ------------------------------ From: lemon@hera.EECS.Berkeley.EDU (Judith Lemon) Subject: The Trouble With Those Cable and Phone Companies Date: 5 Jul 1995 17:56:47 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley For anyone who's intereted, University Video Communications is publishing free technical presentations on the future of the Internet: MAPPING THE INTERNET: PAST, PRESENT, AND FUTURE (35 minutes of audio, slide show, and complete transcript) Gordon Bell reviews the past, present and future of the technical structure of the Internet. He firmly believes that the phone and cable companies are on the wrong track, trying to kill each other to market video-on-demand. Bell sees the need for change in both industries so that they can work together towards giving the public powerful, fast, home Internet access. POTS, even at ISDN speeds, isn't enough. ELECTRONIC COMMERCE (40 minutes of audio, complete transcript) An interview with Marty Tenenbaum and Allan Schiffman of Enterprise Integration Technologies on the technical and business challenges facing electronic commerce. Some topics: public-key cryptography in Web clients and servers, SHTTP, SSL, and new economic models for business on the Web. Also available: OBJECT TECHNOLOGY & SOFTWARE ENGINEERING (slide show, complete transcript) Gregor Kiczales of Xerox-PARC takes you back to CS101 to rethink the fundamentals of software design and reuse. UVC also publishes video updates on current trends and research in networking, communications and the Internet, including ACM panel discussions on the Information Highway. Abstracts of more than 125 videos are available on the Web or through email. See you there! Dr. Judith Lemon Email: lemon@hera.eecs.berkeley.edu University Video Communications Phone: (415) 813-0506 http://www.uvc.com/ Fax: (415) 813-0315 ------------------------------ From: martin@kurahaupo.gen.nz (Martin Kealey) Subject: Running Out of "800" Numbers Date: Thu, 6 Jul 1995 02:38:47 +1200 (NZST) On Tue, 27 Jun 1995 01:26:35 -0400, Judith Oppenheimer wrote [lots of stuff about how big business is worried about little people frittering away their 1-800 numbers...] Frankly this attitude apalls me; firstly, phone numbers are leased, not bought. Secondly, since 1-800 is *always* dialed with a prefix, why can't leading 0 or 1 be used too? That gets you an extra two million numbers. Thirdly, since everyone else has to put up with `area code splits', what is so different about 800? A post box number seems the most reasonable analogue of a phone number -- it is a random number assigned as an address to receive a rented service. If you ask and are patient (or lucky) you might get "Box 1". However, if the post office is fully subscribed or later gets closed, or if you have to move to another town, then you're out of luck. > Regarding branded 800's, the article says that many companies with > well-known 800 numbers -- American Express, for instance, which has > 1-800-THE-CARD -- are worried someone could grab the corresponding number on > the 888 exchange. Or an X-rated video store might get 1-888-VID-BARE ? Could AmEx object to this? This "branding" of phone numbers seems like so much snake oil from this distance. And the problem seems self-inflicted by the use of mnemonic numbers to start with. > the FCC may solve that by just eliminating these popular numbers from 888. The obvious answer to this and related number-exhaustion problems is to make new numbers longer than the old ones; this had two advantages: (1) old numbers won't complete when dialed with the new prefices, and (2) there are *lots* more new numbers. Maybe you should just convince Utah, Vermont, Hawaii et al to vacate 180X, so you could have all of 180-NXXX-XXXX for free-dialing numbers? :-) More seriously, what about 188-NXXX-XXXX, or even 18-NXX-XXX-XXX? Then there can't be a problem, because 188 or 18 + 7 digits just won't complete... This will work as long as you *don't* advertise 1888. > Judith Oppenheimer > phone: 212 684-7210, fax: 212 684-2714 ^ ^ No country code (favourite pet hate...) Or maybe Ms Oppenheimer's in Morocco ? Then the TELECOM Digest Editor noted: > FCC to eliminate ... 800 numbers from duplication on 888, and also on 011-800 Well, chance would be a fine thing. Last time I checked, +800 was going to have EIGHT digit numbers; as above, the duplication problem just disappears, because +800-XXXX-XXX_ won't complete. > my major hassle is with the arrogance so many of them are exhibiting where > something as simple as a telephone number is concerned. PAT] It seems the people who have created mnemonic phone numbers are now being hoist by their own petard, and have the gaul to complain about it! Footnote: Any time I see a company advertising a phone "number" that consist of letters like (for example) "THE-CARD", I (like people in many countries) give it a miss because it is too much trouble to try and figure out what the digits are supposed to be. We've heard previously the arguments about "7 digits" being a natural size number for humans to memorize, and I'm not convinced. In all likelyhood, the true "natural length" is probably about three or four digits, and longer numbers are memorized sequences of shorter chunks; why else would you need punctuation? And ask people in say, Tokyo or France, whether they regard eight digits as "normal" ... Martin D Kealey 36.88888S/174.72116E ## Science Fiction Modellers' Club ## voice +64-9-8150460 fax +64-9-8150529 ## PO Box 74-013, Market Road 1020, NZ [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Well Martin, if we let these telcos get away with eight digit numbers, next thing you know they are going to be wanting ten digit numbers and trying to tell us those are the 'natural length' to remember. PAT] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Jul 1995 12:46:18 -0500 From: Paul Robinson Organization: Tansin A. Darcos & Company, Silver Spring, MD USA Subject: Dial 1-888 For Toll-Free - First Report WMAL-AM 630 had two reports about Area codes during their drive-time show around 9:15am this morning. The second will come later. This is the first media report where I've heard the major media mention the upcoming implementation of the 888 area code (one of the two hosts incorrectly referred to it as a 'prefix'), as an additional number space for toll-free calls. One of the points made was that some businesses are concerned that people will not realize that this is also a toll-free area code same as 800. One of the hosts made the most reasonable solution right off the top of his head, he said "Why don't they just have a national advertising campaign, like they do for any other new product, something like '888=800'." I thought that that was a good idea. And now, my own comments. It hit me, that that's an excellent solution. In fact, you could make it very memorable by doing that. For a few months, some combination of long distance companies fund a trade organization, which runs newspaper ads, radio spots and TV ads that do that. Short ads in newspapers, start small and work up, that say, 'Coming Soon: 888'. That's all. Eventually they work up to full page ads that say the same thing. The idea is that they saturate the media with some silly message like that, which makes almost everyone go nuts trying to figure out what it's supposed to mean. Nobody spends good money to put out a message unless they want people to notice, and this will be something people don't know what it means. Repetition is what counts. Or perhaps make it look like a movie ad for some high-tech movie similar to those fake ads by Energizer Battery Company. Perhaps show films or pictures of high-tech communications equipment over telephones being used. Perhaps people putting jumpers on 25-pair blocks in a telephone company switch rooms, etc., something ala "Sneakers." "Who knows what will happen to America when 888=800. Coming this winter." (or whenever the new area code is to be opened to traffic). Show fake credits for the movie, e.g. 888 Films Presents 888=800 starring blah, blah, blah. Perhaps use famous actors in ten second spots, in the last commercial in the series, all saying the same thing, and those are the ones listed in the credits for the final ad or the regular series of ads. Or radio spots. "Remember 888 is the same as 800. And it's coming soon. It will work the same way." No indication of what that means. Piques curiosity that way. Here's an example of one of the highlight ads. Maybe run this during the Super Bowl, the way Apple Computer did with its "Runner Carrying Hammer" spot that only ran once. Someone, expensive business suit, picks up a phone, dials a number clearly starting with 800, but the rest of the number isn't seen or is a non-working number (or is a number set up to see how many people call that number who saw the ad, maybe set up a contest, etc.) The person on the screen says, "This isn't United States Salvage and Car Rental ..." and hangs up, trying again. Again, same wrong number. Then someone else starts to use the phone next to them. Possibly some guy in a visor cap on backwards, sweat shirt and sweat pants dirty with oil stains. He walks up to the phone, dials a number and waits, saying "Hello, U.S. Salvage and Car Rental? Do you have a part for," and then names some odd, nonexistent, or unusual part, like "a torsion reciprocator for a 56 Edsel? Oh you do, good, can you have it shipped to me next day overnight? My account number? 1034-7680. Yes, that's right, in blue. Thanks!" He turns to leave when our hero who can't make their call buttonholes him. It may be that they use a woman to ask the guy who just walked up, might look like the stereotypical 'scatterbrain' who can't remember things, gives some comic humor. She has a piece of paper in her hand, and an expensive-looking steel pen. "Excuse me, I've been trying to get them for hours, every time I stop I try calling them I get some mortuary. I can't seem to get their 800 number from information." Guy has a look on his face. "Ohhhh. It's not an 800 number, it's 888 ..." "Oh, wait, let me write the number down." She points her pen at the paper, and the man looks over. "You have the right number, the area code is 888, not 800." "Excuse me, I thought it was a toll free number. I'd better get my calling card, and..." "It is toll free, you won't need your calling card. The phone companies had to add a new area code 888, because they ran out of 800 numbers. It's still toll free, and it still works the same way as an 800 number, you just dial 888 instead of 800 when someone has an 888 number." "Are they changing the 800 number system?" "No, it's an extra area code. I said they ran out of numbers in 800, they needed more of them. A new 888 number won't be the same as an 800 number, and the two have nothing to do with each other. As you noticed, the same number in 800 doesn't belong to U.S. Salvage and Car Rental, it belongs to Quick and Dead Drive-Thru Mortuary and Toxic Waste Dump in New Jersey." (Unsubtle reference there.) "Try calling that number, but use 800 instead of 888." She does. Show of relief. "Oh, good, I got the right number. I need to rent a 1966 Mustang for a week on Thursday. I need to impress a prospect who loves the old 'Pony Cars'. Oh good, you have one available?" (Smile that lights up the sky for miles.) " Wow! That's an even better rate than I expected ..." She continues talking as the camera pulls back. The man either leaves, or looks over at her, and she smiles. Something silly, perhaps. (Logo below, "888=800. Remember that...") Voice Over: So remember, 888 is also a toll-free area code. Just remember, 888=800, both area codes are toll free. But also remember, a number in area code 888 is not the same as one in area code 800, but they both are toll free. Use 888 the same way as you'd use a call to 800. A message to you from America's Long Distance Companies (and here it can list all the sponsors, etc.) Or do something like the 'Taster's Choice' commercial series where something like the above, but the guy and girl become interested in each other, etc. Or something else, main thing is to be unusual to get attention, and to build interest in the ads. Copyright 1996, Tansin A. Darcos & Company. Among other things, "Above All else...We shall go on..." we sell and service "_And continue!" ideas. Dial 1-800-TDARCOS if you are looking for ideas for something, ideas and implementation, implementation of other people's ideas, including new products and services your company might be able to sell, contact us. [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Paul, you are a genius! Your idea makes marvelous sense to me. I hope the 'people in charge of things' at the long distance carriers, the ITU and others involved see your message and decide to try your suggestion. And if they do, they had better give you credit for it! Perhaps Ms. Oppenheimer has something to add to this. Judith, how do you think 'Corporate America' would feel about a massive advertising campaign such as Paul has suggested? PAT] ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #300 ******************************