The F I D O N E W S Volume 19, Number 32 12 Aug 2002 +--------------------------+-----------------------------------------+ | |The newsletter of the | | Fido, Fidonet and dog-with-diskette are | | | FidoNet community. | | US Registered Trademarks of Tom Jennings| | | | | San Francisco, California, USA | | | ____________| | | | | / __ | Crash netmail articles to: | | | / / \ | Editor @ 2:2/2 (+46-31-944907) | | | WOOF! ( /|oo \ | Routed netmail articles to: | | \_______\(_| /_) | Bjorn Felten @ 2:203/0 | | _ @/_ \ _ | Email attach to: | | | | \ \\ | bfelten@telia.com | | | (*) | \ ))| | | |__U__| / \// | Editor: Bj”rn Felten | | ______ _//|| _\ / | | | / Fido \ (_/(_|(____/ | Newspapers should have no friends. | | (________) (jm) | -- JOSEPH PULITZER | +--------------------------+-----------------------------------------+ Copyright 2002 by Fidonews Editor for Fidonews Globally. Table of Contents 1. FOOD FOR THOUGHT ......................................... 1 2. INSIDE ................................................... 2 The Fidonews at a Glance ................................. 2 3. GENERAL ARTICLES ......................................... 3 Are There Still Programmers in Fidonet?? ................. 3 Fidonet 1985..2002 ....................................... 6 4. FIDONET NOTICES .......................................... 8 Zone 3 Region merger ..................................... 8 5. FIDONET'S INTERNATIONAL KITCHEN .......................... 9 Shrimply Fiesta Feta ..................................... 9 6. CLEAN HUMOUR & JOKES ..................................... 10 Snail Mail ............................................... 10 7. TODD COCHRANE'S FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING ................. 11 Fidonet Software List .................................... 11 8. FIDONET BY INTERNET ...................................... 15 Fidonet-related Sites .................................... 15 9. SPECIAL INTEREST ......................................... 20 Nodelist Stats ........................................... 20 10. FIDONEWS INFORMATION .................................... 22 How to Submit an Article ................................. 22 Credits, Legal Infomation, Availability .................. 24 FIDONEWS 19-32 Page 1 12 Aug 2002 ================================================================= FOOD FOR THOUGHT ================================================================= There is something inherently wrong with a society that creates laws to protect the people, then hires lawyers to determine the best way to bypass those laws. - Frank Vest - ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 19-32 Page 2 12 Aug 2002 ================================================================= INSIDE ================================================================= The Fidonews at a Glance Still it's rather calm at the editor's office. I hope it's just because it's still summer, and that the issues will be a little thicker later on. Frank Vest sent in an article, that he thought would give him lot's of flames and arguments, it's called "Are There Still Programmers in Fidonet??" Let's hope he will get his fair share of what he expects. :) Then we have a beautiful (well, maybe not if you think of the story it tells, but from a graph point of view) picture of the developement of fidonet over the years, "Fidonet 1985..2002". It's been compiled by Renato Zambon from Brazil; it's sure nice to see some submissions from other parts of the world than the usual. From another part of the world, zone 3, we have a small notice about a "Zone 3 Region merger". Carol makes "Shrimply Fiesta Feta". Those of you, that haven't tried feta cheese yet, are highly encouraged to do so. It's great in almost any salad, just remember not to take to much of it since it has a rather sharp flavour that can easily overtake the rest of the salad. Finally a joke from Warren Bonner. For some strange reason he's called it "Snail Mail". I must admit I cannot figure out why. The more appropriate The Fart could of course seem a little unclean so to speak, maybe that's why... ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 19-32 Page 3 12 Aug 2002 ================================================================= GENERAL ARTICLES ================================================================= Are There Still Programmers in Fidonet?? By Frank Vest 1:124/6308.1 The actual question should be: "Are there still any programmers in Fidonet that are willing to work for the hobby instead of the money and are good enough to do what I'm about to propose?" For the following, I'm thinking about Windows 9x as the OS. The Fidonet BBS, in the days of dial-up, had a "front end mailer" that answered the phone and either gathered the mail or loaded a BBS program dependant on if the call was another mailer or a human user. As time moved on and the Internet came to the front, Fidonet slowly moved to that front. The move, in my humble opinion, wasn't well done.. and is still not done. There is something missing here. Fidonet has divided itself into "legacy" and IP divisions. The binkp protocol was developed as well as FTP and other mail transfers via the Internet. A Fidonet Node could dial into his/her ISP and transfer mail via the Internet. Note that I said "dial into his/her ISP". A user can still dial into an ISP. So, what is missing in Fidonet?? The answer is; A mailer than incorporates dial-up with IP. The Fidonet mailer I'm proposing would have the ability to accept binkp, telnet, FTP and other methods of IP mail. It would also have the ability to accept dial-up mail calls like the "legacy" mailers do. PLUS! This new Fidonet mailer will be able to accept dial-up human callers and TELNET out to an IP address. Why, you ask?? Let me drag an example in here; A simple two node Fidonet BBS. One line is dial-up and the other telnet. Now... For the telnet side, the computer has to run a telnet BBS program and a IP mailer of some kind. For the dial-up side, the computer has to run a dial-up mailer that will load a dial-up BBS program. What do we have here?? A telnet BBS program An IP mailer program A dial-up mailer program Three programs on one computer at the minimum. Most likely, the dial-up mailer will be a Dos (legacy) program. Of course, you can argue that there are IP/dial-up mailers like Argus. Nothing against Argus, but let us look at this; FIDONEWS 19-32 Page 4 12 Aug 2002 A telnet BBS program. An IP/Dial-up mailer. Looks good, doesn't it?? But wait, the IP/Dial-up mailer has to load a BBS program when a human caller connects via dial-up. In Windows, this would mean starting the BBS program in a separate window. We're right back to three programs minimum. How about making a dial-up BBS into a telnet BBS using some kind of "modem emulation"? Ok... Let us see; A dial-up mailer A "modem emulator" A dial-up BBS program that inits the "modem emulator" An IP mailer Oops... we went from three programs to four. I hope you can see what I'm talking about. Adding more nodes only adds to the problem and load. What I envision is two programs. A mailer that will accept dial-up human connections and then telnet out to a telnet BBS program. A telnet BBS program that sits and waits for a connection via telnet... either from the Internet or the mailer. This eliminates the (probably Dos) dial-up BBS and the need for a separate IP mailer. We have the telnet BBS programs. Where is the mailer? This would have an added advantage if the Sysop running this mailer had a LAN (Local Are Network) in his/her house. The telnet BBS could be on one computer while the mailer is on another computer. One program running on each computer instead of two programs running on one computer. Now, the questions, and challenges, if you will, are.... Are there any programmers in Fidonet that can or will write such a mailer?? Would you do it for free... or at least at a "hobby' cost?? Can this be done?? BTW, Before I get a lot of people telling me how dial-up is dead and all that, let me say this; ISPs still offer dial-up connections to the Internet. As a further thought. I think Fidonet, at least in Zone 1, is moving away from dial-up because it's just to much of a hassle to set up a dial-up mailer/BBS, a telnet BBS and a IP mailer program just to offer both worlds. As a "logic" to this, if ISPs still offer dial-up access, then the argument that modems are gone, obsolete and such, isn't correct. Oh yeah, while you're at it, tell my 15 dial-up users that dial-up is FIDONEWS 19-32 Page 5 12 Aug 2002 dead and see what you get. :-)) With hope, Frank ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 19-32 Page 6 12 Aug 2002 Fidonet 1985..2002 by Renato Zambon, 4:801/161, 4:4/0 rczambon@sili.com.br, ICQ 84996821 Hi All, after collecting old nodelists (glad to the others anonymous or not who keeped, collected and let available these files), with a sample of one exemplar per year since 1984, this table and graph were posted in a message in FN_SYSOP as curiosity. Some people liked, :-) so here is a copy for Fidonews: Nodelist evolution: 1985..2002 year day yd bytes nodes 1985 004 1985.01 12289 148 1986 276 1986.76 93042 1209 1987 289 1987.79 186317 2465 1988 253 1988.69 319929 4206 1989 216 1989.59 464876 6169 1990 229 1990.63 690316 8981 1991 179 1991.49 967547 12288 1992 248 1992.68 1511652 18762 1993 274 1993.75 2138908 25998 1994 364 1995.00 3006481 35886 1995 363 1995.99 3281346 38702 1996 362 1996.99 2874365 33699 1997 360 1997.99 2329426 27207 1998 177 1998.48 2062491 24051 1999 176 1999.48 1696914 19663 2001 152 2001.42 1280458 14712 2002 158 2002.43 1099717 12770 40k _ | ,-, | / \ | ' `, | ' \ 30k + / \ | / \ | / \ | / `, | / \ | / `-, | ,' `, 15k + / `-,_ | / `- | ,' | ,-' | ,-' | _,-' | __.,,-' 0 +------+------+-----+------+------+-----+------+------+-----+ 1985 1991 1997 2003 Nice graph? As many of you know, things didn't evolve the same way in FIDONEWS 19-32 Page 7 12 Aug 2002 all zones and regions. In the average apex of 1996 for example Z1 was already in decline while Z2 segment in nodelist was still growing. Also nodes quantitity doesn't have direct relation with real network activity, integration, reliability or other aspects we can imagine. Analyse better the data or just think about it is left as exercise to the reader and, who knows, a future article. []s ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 19-32 Page 8 12 Aug 2002 ================================================================= FIDONET NOTICES ================================================================= Zone 3 Region merger Malcolm Miles 3:633/260 With the release of Zone 3 Nodelist 221, Region 50 has been merged into Region 55. Zone 3 regions are now as follows: Region 54: Queensland, New South Wales, ACT (3 nets) Region 55: Western Australia, South Australia, NT, Victoria, Tasmania (4 nets) Region 57: New Zealand (4 nets) Malcolm Miles Z3C ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 19-32 Page 9 12 Aug 2002 ================================================================= FIDONET'S INTERNATIONAL KITCHEN ================================================================= Shrimply Fiesta Feta Yield: 6 Servings 1 bn Watercress 2 c Orange slices 36 ea Shrimp, deveined shelled cook 1 1/2 c Thin sliced red onion 3 ea Hard boiled eggs, quartered 3/4 c Crumbled feta cheese 1 tb Dijon mustard 1/4 c Fresh coriander leaves 3 tb Lemon juice 2 tb Red wine vinigar 6 tb Olive oil Put the watercress about the plate, then arrange alternating orange slices and shrimp. Put the onions over the plate and then the cooked eggs. Sprinkle with feta and coriander leaves. Mix the rest in a shaker and pour over salad before serving. A dash of tabasco on top makes it perfect! This is a spicy dish and best served for lunch, with a mild soup starter such as corn/squash chowder and some old fashioned cold or hot tea. From the kitchen of: xxcarol ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 19-32 Page 10 12 Aug 2002 ================================================================= CLEAN HUMOUR & JOKES ================================================================= Snail Mail By Warren Bonner wdbonner@pacbell.net President Bush alighted from Air Force One and strolled down a 300 hundred foot, plush red carpet where, at the end, he was greeted with a warm hand shake by the queen of England. The two entered an elegant coach drawn by a team of eight matched horses. As the president and the queen waved to huge crowd the horse nearest the coach let out one gigantic windy! Suddenly the president, the queen, the entourage and the entire crowd became silent. After several minutes of this silence, the queen, deciding that somebody had to say something turned to the president and said, "Please accept my regrets, Mr. president. It seems that there are some things that even the queen has no control." "Think nothing of it, Madam, Bush said, If you hadn't said anything I would have sworn it was one the horses." ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 19-32 Page 11 12 Aug 2002 ================================================================= TODD COCHRANE'S FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING ================================================================= Fidonet Software List By Todd Cochrane Type: B=BBS D=Door M=Mailer T=Tosser C=Communication (terminal) U=Utility P=Point Software I=Internet (telnet, BinkP...) <+-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+=-=+=-=-+-=-=+=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+> ( Software Name ) |Type| ( Author/Contact ) <+-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+=-=|=-=-|-=-=+=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+> |BBBS Home Page |B | b@bbbs.net | | | | www.bbbs.net/ | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |ELEBBS The Elevator |B | elebbs@elebbs.com | |Software Production | | www.elebbs.com | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Hermes II Project |B | info@HermesII.org | | | | http://www.hermesii.org/ | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Maximus BBS Support |B | sales@lainus.com | |Page (Non Official) | | http://www.vector11.com/maximus/ | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |MBSE BBS |B | Michiel Broek | | | | mbroek@users.sourceforge.net | | | | http://mbse.sourceforge.net | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Mystic BBS |B | http://www.mysticbbs.com/mystic/ | | | | | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Nexus Bulletin |B | groberts@nexusbbs.net | |Board System | | http://www.nexusbbs.net/ | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Proboard, Searchlight, |BC | info@telegrafix.com | |Telegrafix | | http://www.telegrafix.com | |Communications | | 540-678-4050 | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |RemoteAccess |B | Bruce Morse | |Central | | bfmorse@rapro.com | | | | http://www.rapro.com/ | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Spitfire BBS |B | MDWoltz@AOL.COM | |Buffalo Creek Software | |http://www.angelfire.com/ia/buffalo/ | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Synchronet BBS |BT | sysop@vert.synchro.net | | | | http://www.synchro.net | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Telegard BBS |B | support@telegard.net | | | | http://www.telegard.net/ | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Wildcat Interactive |BTMI| sales@santronics.com | |Net Server | | http://www.santronics.com | FIDONEWS 19-32 Page 12 12 Aug 2002 |Plantinum Express | |(305)248-3204 | | | | Santronics Inc. | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Bentstone Capabilities |D | info@stonebenders.com | |Group | | http://www.srupc.com/mall | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Jibben Software |D | scott@jibben.com | | | | http://www.jibbensoftware.com/ | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |JNS Software Door Games|D | Rusty Johnson | | | | rustyjohnson57@hotmail.com | | | | 304-733-0113 | | | | http://www.geocities.com/jnssoftware/ | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Legend Of The Red |D | | |Dragon Reborn | | | |(L.O.R.D.) | | http://www.lordlegacy.org/ | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |PC Pursuits |D |brucep@pop.kis.net | | | |(301)240-6653 | | | |http://www.pcpursuits.com/products.htm | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |S and T Software |D |Mark Bappe | | | |mark.bappe@bozax.iainc.net | | | |(770)788-6843 | | | |http://bozax.iainc.net/public/ | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Shinning Star BBS Doors|D |nannette@shiningstar.net | | | |http://www.shiningstar.net/bbsdoors/ | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Sunrise Door Software |D |Al Lawerence | | | |al@sunrisedoors.com | | | |(404)256-9518 | | | |http://www.sunrisedoors.com/ | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |The Brainex System |D |info@brainex.com | | | |http://www.brainex.com/brainex_system/ | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Trade Wars Door Game |D |jpritch@eisonline.com | | | |http://www.eisonline.com/tradewars/ | | | |1:299/110 | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Vagabond Software |D |Bryan Turner | | | |vagabond@darktech.org | | | |http://vagabond.virtualave.net/ | | | |1:124/7013 | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |FMail Support |T |wijnstra@fmail.nl.eu.org | | | |http://fmail.nl.eu.org/ | | | |2:280/1076 | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Squish Tosser |T |http://www.lanius.com/squish.htm | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Argus RITLABS |M |argus@ritlabs.com | | | |373-2-246889 | | | |http://www.ritlabs.com/argus/ | FIDONEWS 19-32 Page 13 12 Aug 2002 | | |2:469/84 | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |FrontDoor |MTPC|Definite Solutions | |FrontDoor APX | |sales@defsol.se | |Mailer/Point Software | |http://www.defsol.se/ | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |BeeMail Home Page |M |http://beemail.gexonline.net | | | |Stephen Proffit | | | |1:211/405 | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |BinkleyTerm XE |M |http://btxe.sourceforge.net/ | |Frontend Mailer | | | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |BinkD |MI |maloff@corbina.net | | | |http://2f.ru/binkd/ | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Fidogate |UIT |Martin_Junius@m-j-s.net | | | |http://www.fidogate.org/ | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Fidonet to Internet |IM |Bo Bendtsen | |Mailer | |sales@terminate.com | | | |http://www.terminate.com/fido2int.htm | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |GiGo Software |UI |http://www.gigo.com/ | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Internet Rex |IM |cruden@cs.ualberta.ca | | | |http://plaza.v-wave.com/InternetRex/ | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Tmail |IM |http://www.tmail.spb.ru/index-19.htm | |(Russian /w English DL)| | | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |TransX Multiboard |M |support@multiboard.com | |Communications Inc. | |http://www.multiboard.com/software/ | | | |transx.html | | | |1:2401/305 | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |TransNet |I |transnet@ressl.com.ar | | | |http://www.ressl.com.ar/transnet/ | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Watergate |I |ramon@sbbs.se | | | |http://www2.sbbs.se/hp/ramon/ | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |JetSys-Home of JetMail |TU |http://www.jetsys.de/ | |JetStat and other Atari| | | |Fidonet utilities | | | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |APoint (Author) |P |http://www.apoint.websale.net/index.htm| | | |http://www.apoint-mail.de (Co-Autho) | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |CrossPoint |P |("Original" version) | | | |http://www.crosspoint.de | | | |http://www.apoint-mail.de | | | |(OpenXP Projekt) | | | |http://www.openxp.com (English) | | | |http://www.openxp.de (German) | | | |CrossPoint (XP2 Team) | FIDONEWS 19-32 Page 14 12 Aug 2002 | | |http://www.xp2.de | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |WinPoint95 |P |http://www.schenksmir.de/wp/english | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |The OpenXP CrossPoint |P |http://www.happyarts.de/xp | |Projekt | | | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Terminate Terminal |P |http://www.terminate.com | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |PPoint-FTS compatible |P |http://www.alcuf.ca/ppoint.htm | |E-Mail System | | | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| \====================================================================/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 19-32 Page 15 12 Aug 2002 ================================================================= FIDONET BY INTERNET ================================================================= . -- -- -- -- --- 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FIDONEWS 19-32 Page 17 12 Aug 2002 167/133 | Stephen Monteith | BinkP | 128k+ | n/c 167/166 | Jesse Dooling | POP? UUE TX FTP| ??? | n/c 218/109 | Matt Munson | BinkP,UUE,TX | 33.6k | n/c 220/10 | groberts|nexusbbs.net |BinkP,FTP,UUE|1.5M+ | n/c 229/1 | Phil Simpson | BinkP UUE FTP | ??? | n/c 229/2000 | Robert Couture |BinkP FTP UUE TX| ??? | 229/622 | Dave Hamilton | BinkP | ??? | n/c 250/98 | Darin McBride | BinkP FTP TX | ??? | n/c 250/99 | Brent McLaren | FTP BinkP | ??? | n/c 250/102 | Darin McBride | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c 267/169 | Philip Lozier | FTP TX | ??? | n/c 261/1380 | Joe Davis | UUE TX | ??? | n/c 275/311 | Shannon Talley|FTP,BinkP,FTP,VMoT,QWK| T1 |n/c 280/169 | Brian Greenstreet | FTP | 33.6 | $2mo. 297/11 | Michael McCabe | TX | ??? | n/c 323/120 | Craig Healy | VMoT FTP | ??? | n/c 342/3 | Richard Dodsworth | BinkP,FTP | 128K+ | n/c 393/48 | Ben Ritchey | UUE:BFDS? | 33.6k | n/c 379/1 | Dale Ross | FTP, BinkP,UUE | 256K+,! n/c 379/1200 | Chris Cranford | BinkP FTP TX | ??? | n/c 396/45 | Marc Lewis |BinkP FTP UUE TX| ADSL | n/c 2215/300 | Dennis Haddox | UUE,TX | CABLE | n/c 2320/38 | Janis Kracht | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c 2410/400 | Gary Gilmore | FTP BinkP | 384K,60| n/c 2410/213 | Kevin Bentz | FTP, BinkP, UUE| Cable | n/c 2604/104 | Jim Mclaughlin | FTP,VMoT,UUE | 33.6 | $1mo 2624/306 | David Calafrancesco | VMoT | 33.6 | n/c 3613/1275 | @ jyates@bsdi.ldl.net | UUE,FTP | 28.8 | n/c 3407/4 | Robert Todd |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c 3632/84 | Robert Todd |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c 3830/5 | Jeff Schrunk |BinkP FTP TX UUE| ??? | n/c 3830/9 | Steve Quarrella |BinkP FTP IFCICO VMoT UUE|?|? -------------------------------------------------------------- Zone 2 | 20/11 | Henrik Lindhe | BinkP | ??? | n/c 22/222 | Kim Heino | BinkP | ??? | n/c 28/1 | Lody Caenen | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c 31/1 | Gabriel Plutzar | BinkP | T1+ | n/c 37/37 | Gabor Z. Papp | BinkP | ??? | n/c 47/999 | Andrej Kirejev | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 53/558 |Vladimir Hrusca|POP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP,ifcico|2mbs|?? 201/329 | Mats Wallin | VMoT TX | ??? | n/c 201/505 | G”ran Eriksson | BinkP | ??? | n/c 201/600 | H†kan Andersson |BinkP,FTP |512kbps| n/c 203/600 | Mikael Karlsson |BinkP,FTP,TX,UUE| 512k | n/c 211/37 | Torbjorn Mohn | BinkP | 8/2mb | n/c 221/360 | Tommi Koivula | BinkP,UUE | ??? | n/c 236/205 | Michael Kaaber | BinkP | ??? | n/c 240/6298 | Steve Tell | BinkP UUE | ??? | n/c 246/2098 | Volker Imre | BinkP | ??? | n/c 252/110 | David Rance | UUE | ??? | n/c 255/90 | Simon Avery | UUE | ??? | n/c 263/950 | Sean Rima | TX UUE | ??? | n/c 280/1027 | Lukas de Groen | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c 280/1601 | Jeroen VanDeLeur | FTP,UUE | 64k | n/c 280/4312 | Jos Huijnen | BinkP ifcico UUE TX| ??? | n/c FIDONEWS 19-32 Page 18 12 Aug 2002 280/5003 | Kees van Eeten | BinkP ifcico | ??? | n/c 292/624 | Steven Leeman | UUE | 64k | n/c 292/854 | Ward Dossche | BinkP UUE TX | ??? | n/c 292/2003 | Eric Vaneberck | BinkP | 768k | n/c 301/1 | Peter Witschi | BinkP | 768k | n/c 332/807 | Roberto Mascolo | BinkP | ??? | n/c 333/0 | M Gianformaggio | BinkP | ??? | n/c 335/534 | Mario Mure | BinkP,VMot,UUE | 64k | n/c 335/610 | Gino Lucrezi | UUE | 33.6 | n/c 341/14 | Rafael Suarez | BinkP VMoT | ??? | n/c 341/51 | Jose.Maria Tejada | VMoT | | 341/66 | Angel Ripoll | VMoT | | 343/168 | Jose Casanova | VMoT | | 344/201 | Julio Garcia | BinkP | ??? | n/c 346/3 | Carlos Navarro | UUE | ??? | n/c 347/1 | Javi Polo | UUE | | 348/105 | Alejandro Estraviz| BinkP UUE | | 382/100 | Sinisa Burina | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 400/555 | Ofir Michaeli | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 400/557 | Marius Kaizerman | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 423/81 | Milos Bajer | BinkP | ??? | n/c 461/256 | Andrew Rutkas | BinkP | ??? | n/c 461/640 | Alex Semenyaka |BinkP ifcico UUE| ??? | n/c 465/204 | Va Milushnikov | BinkP | 33.6k | n/c 469/84 | Max Masyutin | VMoT | 256k | n/c 469/128 | Oleg Vasenyoff | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 480/112 | Adam Sarapata| FTP, VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 128k | n/c 550/4077 | Serguei Trouchelle| UUE | ----- | n/c 2410/201 | Karsten Ebeling | BinkP UUE | ??? | n/c 2411/413 | Dennis Dittrich | UUE,BinkP | 64k | n/c 2432/200 | Sven Dueker | BinkP TX UUE | ??? | n/c 2446/301 | Lothar Behet | BinkP,VMoT,UUE,FTP | 64K | n/c 2474/275 | Christian Emig | UUE | 64k | unkn 2487/3000 | Steffen Gross | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5002/5002 | Victor Belyakov | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5014/4 | Alex Bagmanov | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 5020/52 | Peter Didenko | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5020/54 | Serge Wizgounoff | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 5020/69 | B Chernivetsky | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5020/238 | Sergey Gubanov | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5030/115 | Andrey Podkolzin | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5030/1251 | K Stepanekov | UUE | ??? | n/c 5100/8 | Egons Bush | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5020/1159 | Gennady Kudryashoff | UUE | 33.6 | n/c 5049/12 | Amir Shabashvili | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5054/3 | Andrew Popov | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5080/80 | Eugene Zorin | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 5083/21 | Alexander Uskov | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 5090/2 | Andrew Titov | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5100/8 | Egons Bush | BinkP | ??? | n/c -------------------------------------------------------------- Zone 3 633/260 | Malcolm Miles | FTP,BinkP | 64K | n/c 640/954 | Rick Van Ruth | FTP,VMot,UUE,BinkP| 56K| n/c 712/311 | Bob James | TX | ??? | n/c 774/605 | Barry Blackford|BinkP,VMoT:10023,ifcico,FTP |33.6| n/c FIDONEWS 19-32 Page 19 12 Aug 2002 -------------------------------------------------------------- Zone 4 801/161 | Renato Zambon | UUE | 33.6 |n/c 902/18 | Javier Tejedor | UUE | 33,6 | n/c -------------------------------------------------------------- Zone 6 65/3000 | Lawrence Fan | UUE | 33600 | free 653/1009 | Maorong Chen | UUE | ??? | free 654/0 | Bin Li | UUE,BinkP | 33600 | free 654/1501 | Lawrence Fan | UUE,BinkP | 28800 | free -- * FTP = Internet File Transfer Protocol * VMoT = Virtual Mailer over Telnet (various) * UUE = uuencode<->email type transfers * BinkP = front end mailer for TCPIP networks * TX = TransX * NFS = Linux Networking * ifcico = ifcico-compatible virtual mailer * QWK = Quick Packets/Offline mailer "networking" capable ---------------------------------------------- Fidonet oriented news servers news.fidotel.com (currently offline) news.osirusoft.com news.tardis.net nntp://fido.bitsoft.ro nntp://bbs.bitsoft.ro Fidonet oriented chat rooms. room #fidonet 5PM (PDT 11AM GMT) Sundays irc.osirusoft.com (Peers wanted) irc.sinoptix.ro : malay, chinesse, english, #fido, #fidonet, #wwb irc.bitsoft.ro : 6667 russian, english, hebrew, #fido, #wwb irc.tsua.net : 6668 russian, english #fido ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 19-32 Page 20 12 Aug 2002 ================================================================= SPECIAL INTEREST ================================================================= Nodelist Stats Input nodelist nodelist.221 size 1074.9kb date 2002-08-09 The nodelist has 9472 nodes in it and a total of 12428 non-comment entries including 6 zones 61 regions 458 hosts 659 hubs admin overhead 1184 ( 12.50 %) and 940 private nodes 424 nodes down 408 nodes on hold off line overhead 1772 ( 18.71 %) Speed summary: >9600 = 734 ( 7.75 %) 9600 = 8263 ( 87.24 %) (HST = 180 or 2.18 %) (CSP = 1 or 0.01 %) (PEP = 12 or 0.15 %) (MAX = 0 or 0.00 %) (HAY = 1 or 0.01 %) (V32 = 4501 or 54.47 %) (V32B = 481 or 5.82 %) (V34 = 5436 or 65.79 %) (V42 = 4469 or 54.08 %) (V42B = 499 or 6.04 %) 2400 = 99 ( 1.05 %) 1200 = 8 ( 0.08 %) 300 = 368 ( 3.89 %) ISDN = 952 ( 10.05 %) ---------------------------------------------------------- File Req Flag Applicable software Number of systems ---------------------------------------------------------- XA Frontdoor <1.99b 3385 Frontdoor 2.02+ Dutchie 2.90c Binkleyterm >2.1 D'Bridge <1.3 TIMS Xenia -------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 19-32 Page 21 12 Aug 2002 XB Binkleyterm 2.0 8 Dutchie 2.90b -------------------------------------- XC Opus 1.1 10 -------------------------------------- XP Seadog 6 -------------------------------------- XR Opus 1.03 56 -------------------------------------- XW Fido >12M 387 Tabby KittenMail -------------------------------------- XX D'Bridge 1.30 4180 Frontdoor 1.99b Intermail 2.01 T-Mail -------------------------------------- None QMM 1440 -------------------------------------- CrashMail capable = 3038 ( 32.07 %) MailOnly nodes = 5120 ( 54.05 %) Listed-only nodes = 739 ( 7.80 %) Other = 575 ( 6.07 %) [Report produced by NETSTATS - A PD pgm available from 1:106/100] [ Revised by B Felten, 2:203/208] ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 19-32 Page 22 12 Aug 2002 ================================================================= FIDONEWS INFORMATION ================================================================= How to Submit an Article If you wish to submit an article for inclusion in the Fidonews, here are some guidelines, if you send it as an attached file; the preferred method if you want reasonable control over how the published article will appear in the Fidonews: a) Plain ASCII text. 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