The  F I D O N E W S      Volume 19, Number 34             26 Aug 2002 
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            Copyright 2002 by Fidonews Editor for Fidonews Globally.


                        Table of Contents
     1. FOOD FOR THOUGHT  .........................................  1
     2. INSIDE  ...................................................  2
        The Fidonews at a Glance  .................................  2
     3. EDITORIAL  ................................................  3
        Best of Fidonet  ..........................................  3
     4. OL'WDB'S COLUMN - WARREN BONNER  ..........................  4
        Why we forward jokes to our friends  ......................  4
     5. FRANK'S COLUMN - FRANK VEST  ..............................  6
        School Daze  ..............................................  6
     6. FIDONET'S INTERNATIONAL KITCHEN  ..........................  8
        Leeky Scallops  ...........................................  8
     7. CLEAN HUMOUR & JOKES  .....................................  9
        Irish Jokes  ..............................................  9
        Irish lass comes home  .................................... 11
     8. BEN RITCHEY'S FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING  ................... 12
        FIDONet Software References  .............................. 12
     9. FIDONET BY INTERNET  ...................................... 16
        Fidonet-related Sites  .................................... 16
     10. SPECIAL INTEREST  ........................................ 21
        Nodelist Stats  ........................................... 21
     11. FIDONEWS INFORMATION  .................................... 23
        How to Submit an Article  ................................. 23
        Credits, Legal Infomation, Availability  .................. 25
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                             FOOD FOR THOUGHT
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     It injured your national pride. I see that we all need to learn to
     lose that national identity when posting here, we are world citizens
     and as such should be developing a global pride.

              -- Barry Blackford (in an international fido echo)


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                                  INSIDE
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                     The Fidonews at a Glance

     In the editorial this week, I tell you about a new column, that I call
     "Best of Fidonet".

        Warren Bonner explains "Why we forward jokes to our friends....",
     or rather some thoughts about how important it is to stick to our
     friends and why.

        Frank Vest talks about "School Daze" in his column. About how the
     staff and the students look differently on the first and the last day
     at school.

        Carol teaches us how to make "Leeky Scallops" in our international
     kitchen.

        The jokes section is all Irish. First two "Irish Jokes" from
     Warren's neverending supply of jokes, then something snipped from the
     HOLYSMOKE echo, about "Irish lass comes home".

        Finally we have a change in the software listing, with a new list-
     keeper, Ben Ritchey from now on taking care of the list "FIDONet
     Software References". I guess some will say it's about time that some-
     thing finally happened with this list...



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                                 EDITORIAL
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                             Best of Fidonet

     It's been a while since last you saw an editorial here. I can only
     blame the wonderful summer for this, and hope to make up for it in the
     coming editions of the Snooze.

        First out is a little novelty. I've decided to make the old classic
     quotations, that's normally making up the Food for Thoughts column,
     give way for some that are collected from various fidonet echoes. I
     hope you will enjoy this novelty, if not send a letter to the editor
     and give your reasons for not doing so.

        In line with this, I've opened up a new column, that I've named
     Best of Fidonet. We've had an echo with that name here in R20 (Sweden)
     for many years, and the thought behind it is, that noone can possibly
     read all the postings in all the echoes of fidonet, and therefore are
     likely to miss some of the really good pieces that sometimes occur.

        In this R20 BOF echo, all the readers were urged to save the best
     writings they stumbled across in their favorite echoes, and forward it
     into this single echo, thereby making it less probable that the best
     parts of fidonet were missed.

        So, whenever you see some really good posting anywhere, please have
     the Snooze in mind, and forward it to this new BOF column. But
     remember, it must be good enough for you to consider tattooing it on
     your back (as the rules for the Swedish echo stated). If the goodies
     are just a short sentence, maybe snipped from a larger posting, you
     could try sending it in as a Food for Thoughts contribution.


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                      OL'WDB'S COLUMN - WARREN BONNER
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                Why we forward jokes to our friends....
                         By Warren Bonner
                      wdbonner@pacbell.net

     A man and his dog were walking along a road. The man was enjoying the
     scenery, when it suddenly occurred to him that he was dead. He
     remembered dying, and that the dog walking beside him had been dead
     for years.

     He wondered where the road was leading them. After a while, they came
     to a high, white stone wall along one side of the road. It looked like
     fine marble. At the top of a long hill, it was broken by a tall arch
     that glowed in the sunlight.

     When he was standing before it he saw a magnificent gate in the arch
     that looked like Mother of Pearl, and the street that led to the gate
     looked like pure gold.

     He and the dog walked toward the gate, and as he got closer, he saw a
     man at a desk to one side. When he was close enough, he called out,
     "Excuse me, where are we?"

     "This is Heaven, sir," the man answered.

     "Wow! Would you happen to have some water?" the man asked.

     "Of course, sir. Come right in, and I'll have some ice water brought
     right up."

     The man gestured, and the gate began to open.

     "Can my friend," gesturing toward his dog, "come in, too?" the
     traveler asked.

     "I'm sorry, sir, but we don't accept pets."

     The man thought a moment and then turned back toward the road and
     continued the way he had been going with his dog. After another long
     walk, and at the top of another long hill, he came to a dirt road
     which led through a farm gate that looked as if it had never been
     closed.

     There was no fence. As he approached the gate, he saw a man inside,
     leaning against a tree and reading a book. "Excuse me!" he called to
     the reader. "Do you have any water?"

     "Yeah, sure, there's a pump over there." The man pointed to a place
     that couldn't be seen from outside the gate. "Come on in."

     "How about my friend here?" the traveler gestured to the dog.

     "There should be a bowl by the pump." They went through the gate, and
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     sure enough, there was an old fashioned hand pump with a bowl beside
     it.

     The traveler filled the bowl and took a long drink himself, then he
     gave some to the dog. When they were full, he and the dog walked back
     toward the man who was standing by the tree waiting for them.

     "What do you call this place?" the traveler asked. "This is Heaven,"
     was the answer.

     "Well, that's confusing", the traveler said, "The man down the road
     said that was Heaven, too!"

     "Oh, you mean the place with the gold street and pearly gates? Nope.
     That's Hell."

     "Well, Doesn't it make you mad for them to use your name like that?",
     the traveler asked.

     "No. I can see how you might think so, but we're just happy that they
     screen out the folks who'll leave their best friends behind."


     Soooo...

     Sometimes, we wonder why friends keep forwarding jokes to us without
     writing a word, maybe this could explain: When you are very busy, but
     still want to keep in touch, guess what you do? You forward jokes.

     When you have nothing to say, but still want to keep contact, you
     forward jokes.

     When you have something to say, but don't know what, and don't know
     how, you forward jokes.

     And to let you know that you are still remembered, you are still
     important, you are still loved, you are still cared for, guess what
     you get?

     A forwarded joke!

     So my friend, next time if you get a joke, don't think that you've
     been sent just another forwarded joke, but that you've been thought of
     today and your friend on the other end of your computer wanted to send
     you a smile...

     Ol'wdb


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                        FRANK'S COLUMN - FRANK VEST
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                                  School Daze
                                 By Frank Vest
                                  1:124/6308.1

      I'm not sure how other countries' school systems work, so I'll just
     go with American schools. :)  As a former employee of a school system
     and a high school graduate, I've seen both sides. :)

      Many of you have kids, or grand kids, that will be starting school.
     Some have already started. Many of you may be employees of a school
     system (did you ever leave?). For the rest of you, just remember your
     school days. :)

      There are two days of school that are significant, for opposite
     reasons, depending on who your are. Let's look at them:

     :The first day of school

      For the staff;

      This day is the worst. It doesn't matter if you are a teacher,
     principal, janitor or what. You've been at work for at least two
     weeks. You've had meetings constantly (sometimes with people you
     couldn't stand last year either). Nothing is ready. The schedules are
     not right. The classrooms are not ready and no one knows what the heck
     is going on.

      For the students;

      This is a great day. None of the bells are working right. No one
     knows what class you are supposed to be in either. You can be late for
     class... if you show up at all.. and no one know the difference.
     You're getting to meet all of your friends again and none of the
     school staff has any idea of what /YOU/ are planning for /THEM/ this
     year.

     :The last day of school

      For the students;

      This day is the best (even better if you're graduating from high
     school). No more teachers loading you with enough homework to last the
     rest of your life while expecting it turned in the next day. YOU'RE
     FREE!!! :-)

      For the staff;

      While not as bad as the first day of school, this is still not a
     "walk in the park". Probably the best part is that you are free from
     those kids for the summer. Of course, you still have a few days to go.
     You're looking around the classroom, or school building and realizing
     that although all the books, desks and other stuff was supposed to be
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     checked in, cleaned and ready for storage, nothing is done. The
     paperwork on your desk is still piled up and the grades from the final
     exams have not been entered into the books.... AND... now you have to
     figure out what you will do for a summer job to replace the salary you
     will lose in a few days. Them kids think getting a summer job is hard,
     they should be "our" age. :)


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                      FIDONET'S INTERNATIONAL KITCHEN
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                       Leeky Scallops

           Yield: 4 Servings

           4 tb Butter, room temp
           1 tb Fresh thyme or 1.5 dry
           2 ea Leeks, chopped julianne
           2 ea Carrots, chopped julianne
           1 lb Bay scallops
           3 tb Fresh basil
           1 ea Lemon chopped to quarters

       Mash chopped thyme, with salt and pepper to taste, into the butter.
     Now blanch the leeks and carrots and set aside.  Lay equal amounts of
     leeks and carrots on 4 foil linings and add scallops.  Add lemon juice
     and the butter evenly about the 4 sets.  You can bake these in a
     preheated oven at 450 degrees for 15 mins, or grill the foil packages.

       Goes lovely with grilled whole corn, still in the husk and some
     baking soda type breads of cheese and herb type.  For dessert,
     consider slices of fresh grapefruit.

       From the kitchen of: xxcarol


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                           CLEAN HUMOUR & JOKES
     =================================================================

                           Father O'Regis
                          By Warren Bonner
                        wdbonner@pacbell.net

     Father O'Regis  rose from his bed.   It was a fine spring day and he
     walked to the window of his bedroom to get a deep breath of the
     beautiful day outside.

     He then noticed there was a jackass lying dead in the middle of his
     front lawn. He promptly called the local police station.

     The conversation went like this: "Top o' the day to ye. This is
     Sgt.Flaherty. How might I help ye?"

     "And the best of the day te yerself. This is Father O'Malley at St.
     Anthony's.   There's a jackass lying dead in me front lawn. Would ye
     be so kind as to send a couple o' yer lads to take care of the
     matter?"

     Sgt. Flaherty, considering himself to be quite a wit, replied with a
     smirk, "Well now father, it was always my impression that you people
     took care of last rites!"

     There was dead silence on the line for a long moment.

     Father O'Malley then replied: "Aye, that's certainly true, but we are
     also obliged to notify the next of kin."


                  -   -   -   -   -   -   -   -   -   -


                            BLESS THE IRISH

      Mrs. O'Donovan was walking down O'Connell Street in Dublin, and
     coming in the opposite direction was Father O'Rafferty.

     "Hello," said the Father, "and how is Mrs. O'Donovan? Didn't I marry
     you and Bill O'Donovan two years ago?"

     She replied "Aye, that you did, Father."

     "And be there any little ones yet?"

     "No, not yet, Father," said she.

     "Well, I'm going to Rome next week, and I'll light a candle for you."

     "Oh, thank you, Father." And away she went.

     Some years later they met again. "Well, Mrs. O'Donovan," said the
     priest,  "how are you?"
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     "Oh, very well," said she.

     "And tell me," he said, "have you any little ones yet?"

     "Oh yes, Father. I've had three sets of twins, and four singles - ten
     children in all."

     "Now isn't that wonderful," he said. "And how is your lovely husband?"

     "Oh," she said, "E's gone to Rome to blow out yer  damn  candle."


      8^) Ol'wdb



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                       Irish lass comes home
          (snipped from HOLYSMOKE, posted by Mimi Gallandt)

       An Irish girl went to London to work as a secretary and began
     sending home money and gifts to her parents. After a few years they
     asked her to come home for a visit, as her father was getting frail
     and elderly. She pulled up to the family home in a Rolls Royce and
     stepped out wearing fur and diamonds.

       As she walked into the house her father said "seem to be paying
     secretaries awfully well in London."

       The girl took his hands and said "Dad - I've been meaning to tell
     you something for years but I didn't want to put it in a letter. I
     can't hide it from you any longer. I've become a prostitute."

       Her father gasped, put his hand on his heart and keeled over. The
     doctor was called but the old man had clearly lost the will to live.
     He was put to bed and the priest was called.

       As the priest began to administer Extreme Unction, with the mother
     and daughter weeping and wailing, the old man muttered weakly, "I'm a
     goner -- killed by my own daughter! Killed by the shame of what you've
     become!"

       "Please forgive me!" his daughter sobbed, "I only wanted to have
     nice things! I wanted to be able to send you money and the only way I
     could do it was by becoming a prostitute."

       Brushing the priest aside, the old man sat bolt upright in bed,
     smiling. "Did you say prostitute? That was a close one - I thought you
     said Protestant"


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                  BEN RITCHEY'S FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING
     =================================================================

                        FIDONet Software Reference
                         by Ben Ritchey, 1:393/68

      Type: M=Mailer  T=Tosser  B=BBS  D=Door  C=Comm/Terminal
            P=Points  E=Editor  I=Internet  U=Utility  ?=Info

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      Argus                  |M    |www.ritlabs.com/argus/
                             |     | argus@ritlabs.com  Voice: 373-2-246889
                             |     |  2:469/84  v3.210 on Mar 20th 2001

      BeeMail                |M    |beemail.gexonline.net  Stephen Proffit
                             |     | 1:105/10

      BinkleyTerm XE         |M    |btxe.sourceforge.net  1:1/102
                             |     | v2.60XE/Gamma-6 on Nov 11th 1998

      BinkD                  |MI   |2f.ru/binkd/  maloff@corbina.net
                             |     | v0.94 on Jul 24th 2000

      Fidonet to Internet    |MI   |www.terminate.com  sales@terminate.com
                             |     |Bo Bendtsen  v2.00 on Mar23rd 1997

      FrontDoor, FD/APX:     |MTPC |www.defsol.se  sales@defsol.se
       Definite Solutions    |     | 2:201/330 & 1:1/101
                             |     |  v2.26SW & v2.33ml FD, v1.15 APX

      Husky Project          |MTPUI|husky.physcip.uni-stuttgart.de
                             |     | (moving to husky.sourceforge.net ?)

      InterMail, InterEcho   |MT   |www.ifido.com  sales@ifido.com  1:1/133

      Tmail                  |MI   |www.tmail.spb.ru  v2608

      WildCat! Interactive   |MTBEI|www.santronics.com sales@santronics.com
       Net Server, Platinum  |     | Voice: (305) 248-3204
        Xpress: Santronics   |     |  AUP 450.2 on Jul 9th 2002
         Software, Inc.
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      Fidogate               |TUI  |www.fidogate.org
                             |     | Martin_Junius@m-j-s.net  v4.4.4

      FMail                  |T    |fmail.nl.eu.org
                             |     | wijnstra@fmail.nl.eu.org
                             |     |  2:280/1076  v1.60

      JetMail: JetSys        |TU   |www.jetsys.de  js@jetsys.de
       (ATARI ST only)       |     | v1.01 on Jan 1st 2000
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      Squish                 |T    |www.lanius.com  sales@lanius.com
                             |     | www.vector11.com/maximus/  v1.11

      Synchronet BBS         |TB   |www.synchro.net
                             |     | sysop(at)vert(dot)synchro(dot)net
                             |     |  v3.10i Beta on Apr 30th 2002

      Watergate              |TUI  |www2.sbbs.se/hp/ramon/  ramon@sbbs.se
                             |     | v0.93p9 on Dec 14th 1998
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      BBBS                   |BI   |www.bbbs.net  b@bbbs.net  2:22/222
                             |     | v4.00MP on Oct 25th 1999

      ELEBBS: The Elevator   |B    |www.elebbs.com  elebbs@elebbs.com
       Software Production   |     | v0.10.RC1 on Jun 9th 2002

      Falken BBS             |B    |falkenbbs.com  v12.0 on Feb 2nd 2002

      Hermes II Project      |B    |www.hermesii.org
                             |     | info@HermesII.org  v3.5.9 Beta Final

      Maximus BBS            |B    |www.lanius.com  sales@lanius.com
                             |     | www.vector11.com/maximus/  v3.01

      MBSE BBS               |BI   |mbse.sourceforge.net  Michiel Broek
                             |     | mbroek@users.sourceforge.net
                             |     |  2:280/2802  v0.33.21 on Jun 4th 2002

      Mystic BBS             |B    |www.mysticbbs.com
                             |     | v1.07.3 on May 13th 2001

      Nexus BBS              |B    |www.nexusbbs.net  groberts@nexusbbs.net
                             |     | v0.99.41.001 beta on Jun 10th 2001

      Proboard BBS           |B    |www.proboard.be  v2.17 on Jun 9th 2002

      RemoteAccess Central   |B    |www.rapro.com  bfmorse@rapro.com
                             |     | Bruce Morse  1:1/120  v2.52SW/Pro

      Spitfire BBS: Buffalo  |B    |www.angelfire.com/ia/buffalo/
       Creek Software        |     | MDWoltz@aol.com  1:1/150
                             |     |  v3.6 on Aug 20th 1999

      Telegard BBS           |B    |www.telegard.net  support@telegard.net
                             |     | v3.09g2 SP4
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      Atlantis Software      |D    |www.jimmyrose.com/atlantis/  Jun 2002

      BBS Central            |D    |www.rpcomputers.com

      Bentstone Capabilities |D    |www.srupc.com/mall
       Group                 |     | info@stonebenders.com

      Cheepware              |D    |www.midnightshour.org/cheepware/
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                             |     | Sean Dennis  1:11/200

      DDS: Doorware          |D    |www.doorgames.org  ruth@doorgames.org
       Distribution System   |     | Ruth Argust  1:2404/201

      DoorMUD                |D    |www.dmud.thebbs.org  v0.98 Jun 1st 2002

      Elysium Software       |D    |www.elysoft.com  mpreslar@mailcity.com

      Jibben Software        |D    |www.jibbensoftware.com scott@jibben.com
                             |     | 1995-99 Release dates

      JNS Software           |D    |www.geocities.com/jnssoftware/
                             |     | rustyjohnson57@hotmail.com
                             |     |  Voice: (304) 733-0113  Rusty Johnson

      John Dailey Software   |D    |www.johndaileysoftware.com
                             |     | support@johndaileysoftware.com

      LORD (Legend of the    |D    |www.lordlegacy.org  mike@lordlegacy.org
       Red Dragon) Reborn    |     | v4.06 on Feb 5th 2001

      Lord-II IGMs           |D    |www.shelby.net/wizards/lord2igm/

      PC Pursuits            |D    |www.pcpursuits.com  brucep@pop.kis.net
                             |     | Voice: (301) 240-6653

      Shining Star           |D    |www.shiningstar.net/bbsdoors/
                             |     | nannette@shiningstar.net

      Sunrise Doors          |D    |www.sunrisedoors.com
                             |     | al@sunrisedoors.com
                             |     |  Voice: (404) 256-9518  Al Lawrence

      The Brainex System     |D    |www.brainex.com/brainex_system/
                             |     | stanley@brainex.com  1994-99 Releases

      Trade Wars             |D    |www.eisonline.com/tradewars/
                             |     | jpritch@eisonline.com
                             |     |  v3.09 (DOS-32) in 2002

      Vagabond Software      |D    |www.vbsoft.org  vagabond@vbsoft.org
                             |     | Bryan Turner  1:124/7013
                             |     |  Jul 17th 2002

      (various)              |D    |www.webnexus.com/users/etow/
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      APoint                 |PI   |www.apoint-mail.de  v1.25

      CrossPoint, OpenXP     |PI   |www.openxp.com v3.8.7 beta Aug 3rd 2002
                             |     |www.crosspoint.de (Original?)

      PPoint                 |P    |www.alcuf.ca  1:249/114
                             |     | v3.04 on Jan 10th 2000

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      Internet Rex:          |UI   |members.shaw.ca/InternetRex/
       Khan Software         |     | (see Register.Zip for Email) 1:342/806
                             |     |  Charles Cruden v2.29 on Oct 21st 2001

      TransNet               |UI   |www.ressl.com.ar/transnet/
                             |     | transnet@ressl.com.ar
                             |     |  v2.11 on Jul 18th 1998

      TransX: Multiboard     |UI   |www.multiboard.com/software/
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     Node#      | Operator          | Facilities (*) | Speed,| Basic Rate
                |                   |                |latency|
     -----------+-------------------+----------------+-------+------------
     Zone 1     |                   |                |       |
       10/3     | Brenda Donovan    | FTP,UUE,BinkP  | 384K,30| n/c
       10/345   | Todd Cochrane     | FTP,BinkP,VMOT | T1,!  | n/c
       18/500   | Ross Cassell      | FTP, BinkP     |128K+,!| n/c
      103/5     | Mark Luetger      | BinkP          | CABLE | n/c
      103/301   | Joe Jared         | BinkP,FTP,NFS  | 384k,!| n/c
      103/401   | Warren Bonner     | BinkP          | aDSL,!| n/c
      105/8     | Russ Johnson      | FTP,BinkP,VMoT | 384k  | n/c
      105/72    | Larry James       | FTP, BinkP     | aDSL  | $50/yr
      106/1     | Steve Loupe       | BinkP, FTP     | 768k  | FREE
      106/2000  | Bob Juge        | BinkP VMoT FTP TX| ???   | n/c
      106/6018  | Lawrence Garvin   | FTP, VMoT      | aDSL,60| n/c
      107/453   | Jeffrey Estevez| FTP,BinkP,VMoT,UUE| 56k,60| $10 mo.
      134/11    | Michael Grant  | FTP, BinkP, VMoT UUE, IFCICO,TransX
                                                    aDSL, 60 | n/c
      138/146   | Marc Blakely      | BinkP,FTP      | ???   | n/c
      140/1     | Bob Seaborn       | FTP,BinkP      | T3,30 | $5/$16
      142/906   | Chris Griffin     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      150/220   | Dave Nemeth       | UUE            | ???   | n/c
      153/7715  | Dallas Hinton     | BinkD, FTP     | CABLE | ???
     FIDONEWS 19-34               Page 18                  26 Aug 2002


      167/133   | Stephen Monteith  | BinkP          | 128k+ | n/c
      167/166   | Jesse Dooling     | POP? UUE TX FTP| ???   | n/c
      218/109   | Matt Munson       | BinkP,UUE,TX   | 33.6k | n/c
      220/10    | groberts|nexusbbs.net |BinkP,FTP,UUE|1.5M+ | n/c
      229/1     | Phil Simpson      | BinkP UUE FTP  | ???   | n/c
      229/2000  | Robert Couture    |BinkP FTP UUE TX| ???   |
      229/622   | Dave Hamilton     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      250/98    | Darin McBride     | BinkP FTP TX   | ???   | n/c
      250/99    | Brent McLaren     | FTP BinkP      | ???   | n/c
      250/102   | Darin McBride     | BinkP FTP      | ???   | n/c
      267/169   | Philip Lozier     | FTP TX         | ???   | n/c
      261/1380  | Joe Davis         | UUE TX         | ???   | n/c
      275/311   | Shannon Talley|FTP,BinkP,FTP,VMoT,QWK| T1  |n/c
      280/169   | Brian Greenstreet | FTP            | 33.6  | $2mo.
      297/11    | Michael McCabe    | TX             | ???   | n/c
      323/120   | Craig Healy       | VMoT FTP       | ???   | n/c
      342/3     | Richard Dodsworth | BinkP,FTP      | 128K+ | n/c
      393/48    | Ben Ritchey       | UUE:BFDS?      | 33.6k | n/c
      379/1     | Dale Ross         | FTP, BinkP,UUE | 256K+,! n/c
      379/1200  | Chris Cranford    | BinkP FTP TX   | ???   | n/c
      396/45    | Marc Lewis        |BinkP FTP UUE TX| ADSL  | n/c
     2215/300   | Dennis Haddox     | UUE,TX         | CABLE | n/c
     2320/38    | Janis Kracht      | BinkP FTP      | ???   | n/c
     2410/400   | Gary Gilmore      | FTP BinkP      | 384K,60| n/c
     2410/213   | Kevin Bentz       | FTP, BinkP, UUE| Cable | n/c
     2604/104   | Jim Mclaughlin    | FTP,VMoT,UUE   | 33.6  | $1mo
     2624/306   | David Calafrancesco  | VMoT        | 33.6  | n/c
     3613/1275  | @ jyates@bsdi.ldl.net | UUE,FTP    | 28.8  | n/c
     3407/4     | Robert Todd    |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c
     3632/84    | Robert Todd    |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c
     3830/5     | Jeff Schrunk      |BinkP FTP TX UUE| ???   | n/c
     3830/9     | Steve Quarrella   |BinkP FTP IFCICO VMoT UUE|?|?
     --------------------------------------------------------------
     Zone 2     |
       20/11    | Henrik Lindhe     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
       22/222   | Kim Heino         | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
       28/1     | Lody Caenen       | BinkP FTP      | ???   | n/c
       31/1     | Gabriel Plutzar   | BinkP          | T1+   | n/c
       37/37    | Gabor Z. Papp     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
       47/999   | Andrej Kirejev    | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
       53/558   |Vladimir Hrusca|POP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP,ifcico|2mbs|??
      201/329   | Mats Wallin       | VMoT TX        | ???   | n/c
      201/505   | G”ran Eriksson    | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      201/600   | H†kan Andersson   |BinkP,FTP       |512kbps| n/c
      203/600   | Mikael Karlsson   |BinkP,FTP,TX,UUE| 512k  | n/c
      211/37    | Torbjorn Mohn     | BinkP          | 8/2mb | n/c
      221/360   | Tommi Koivula     | BinkP,UUE      | ???   | n/c
      236/205   | Michael Kaaber    | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      240/6298  | Steve Tell        | BinkP UUE      | ???   | n/c
      246/2098  | Volker Imre       | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      252/110   | David Rance       | UUE            | ???   | n/c
      255/90    | Simon Avery       | UUE            | ???   | n/c
      263/950   | Sean Rima         | TX UUE         | ???   | n/c
      280/1027  | Lukas de Groen    | BinkP FTP      | ???   | n/c
      280/1601  | Jeroen VanDeLeur  | FTP,UUE        | 64k   | n/c
      280/4312  | Jos Huijnen   | BinkP ifcico UUE TX| ???   | n/c
     FIDONEWS 19-34               Page 19                  26 Aug 2002


      280/5003  | Kees van Eeten    | BinkP ifcico   | ???   | n/c
      292/624   | Steven Leeman     | UUE, BinkP     | 128k  | n/c
      292/854   | Ward Dossche      | BinkP UUE TX   | ???   | n/c
      292/2003  | Eric Vaneberck    | BinkP          | 768k  | n/c
      301/1     | Peter Witschi     | BinkP          | 768k  | n/c
      332/807   | Roberto Mascolo   | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      333/0     | M Gianformaggio   | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      335/534   | Mario Mure        | BinkP,VMot,UUE | 64k   | n/c
      335/610   | Gino Lucrezi      | UUE            | 33.6  | n/c
      341/14    | Rafael Suarez     | BinkP VMoT     | ???   | n/c
      341/51    | Jose.Maria Tejada | VMoT           |       |
      341/66    | Angel Ripoll      | VMoT           |       |
      343/168   | Jose Casanova     | VMoT           |       |
      344/201   | Julio Garcia      | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      346/3     | Carlos Navarro    | UUE            | ???   | n/c
      347/1     | Javi Polo         | UUE            |       |
      348/105   | Alejandro Estraviz| BinkP UUE      |       |
      382/100   | Sinisa Burina     | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
      400/555   | Ofir Michaeli     | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
      400/557   | Marius Kaizerman  | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
      423/81    | Milos Bajer       | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      461/256   | Andrew Rutkas     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      461/640   | Alex Semenyaka    |BinkP ifcico UUE| ???   | n/c
      465/204   | Va Milushnikov    | BinkP          | 33.6k | n/c
      469/84    | Max Masyutin      | VMoT           | 256k  | n/c
      469/128   | Oleg Vasenyoff    | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
      480/112   | Adam Sarapata| FTP, VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 128k  | n/c
      550/4077  | Serguei Trouchelle| UUE            | ----- | n/c
     2410/201   | Karsten Ebeling   | BinkP UUE      | ???   | n/c
     2411/413   | Dennis Dittrich   | UUE,BinkP      | 64k   | n/c
     2432/200   | Sven Dueker       | BinkP TX UUE   | ???   | n/c
     2446/301   | Lothar Behet  | BinkP,VMoT,UUE,FTP | 64K   | n/c
     2474/275   | Christian Emig    | UUE            | 64k   | unkn
     2487/3000  | Steffen Gross     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5002/5002  | Victor Belyakov   | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5014/4     | Alex Bagmanov     | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
     5020/52    | Peter Didenko     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5020/54    | Serge Wizgounoff  | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
     5020/69    | B Chernivetsky    | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5020/238   | Sergey Gubanov    | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5030/115   | Andrey Podkolzin  | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5030/1251  | K Stepanekov      | UUE            | ???   | n/c
     5100/8     | Egons Bush        | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5020/1159  | Gennady Kudryashoff | UUE          | 33.6  | n/c
     5049/12    | Amir Shabashvili  | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5054/3     | Andrew Popov      | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5080/80    | Eugene Zorin      | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
     5083/21    | Alexander Uskov   | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
     5090/2     | Andrew Titov      | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5100/8     | Egons Bush        | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     --------------------------------------------------------------
     Zone 3
      633/260   | Malcolm Miles     | FTP,BinkP      | 64K   | n/c
      640/954   | Rick Van Ruth     | FTP,VMot,UUE,BinkP| 56K| n/c
      712/311   | Bob James         | TX             | ???   | n/c
      774/605   | Barry Blackford|BinkP,VMoT:10023,ifcico,FTP |33.6| n/c
     FIDONEWS 19-34               Page 20                  26 Aug 2002


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     Zone 4
      801/161   | Renato Zambon     | UUE            | 33.6  |n/c
      902/18    | Javier Tejedor    | UUE            | 33,6  | n/c
     --------------------------------------------------------------
     Zone 6
       65/3000  | Lawrence Fan      | UUE            | 33600 | free
      653/1009  | Maorong Chen      | UUE            | ???   | free
      654/0     | Bin Li            | UUE,BinkP      | 33600 | free
      654/1501  | Lawrence Fan      | UUE,BinkP      | 28800 | free

     --
     * FTP    = Internet File Transfer Protocol
     * VMoT   = Virtual Mailer over Telnet (various)
     * UUE    = uuencode<->email type transfers
     * BinkP  = front end mailer for TCPIP networks
     * TX     = TransX
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     * ifcico = ifcico-compatible virtual mailer
     * QWK    = Quick Packets/Offline mailer "networking" capable
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     irc.bitsoft.ro : 6667 russian, english, hebrew, #fido, #wwb
     irc.tsua.net : 6668 russian, english #fido


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                         Nodelist Stats

      Input nodelist  nodelist.235
                size  1060.7kb
                date  2002-08-23

      The nodelist has   9359 nodes in it
        and a total of  12250 non-comment entries

              including     6 zones
                           58 regions
                          451 hosts
                          649 hubs
         admin overhead  1164 ( 12.44 %)

                    and   939 private nodes
                          460 nodes down
                          328 nodes on hold
      off line overhead  1727 ( 18.45 %)


      Speed summary:

               >9600 =    736 (  7.86 %)
                9600 =   8153 ( 87.11 %)
                              (HST  =  175 or   2.15 %)
                              (CSP  =    1 or   0.01 %)
                              (PEP  =   12 or   0.15 %)
                              (MAX  =    0 or   0.00 %)
                              (HAY  =    1 or   0.01 %)
                              (V32  = 4453 or  54.62 %)
                              (V32B =  474 or   5.81 %)
                              (V34  = 5386 or  66.06 %)
                              (V42  = 4432 or  54.36 %)
                              (V42B =  493 or   6.05 %)
                2400 =     95 (  1.02 %)
                1200 =      8 (  0.09 %)
                 300 =    367 (  3.92 %)

                ISDN =    942 ( 10.07 %)

     ----------------------------------------------------------
      File Req Flag   Applicable software     Number of systems
     ----------------------------------------------------------
      XA              Frontdoor <1.99b             3315
                      Frontdoor  2.02+
                      Dutchie 2.90c
                      Binkleyterm >2.1
                      D'Bridge <1.3
                      TIMS
                      Xenia
     --------------------------------------
     FIDONEWS 19-34               Page 22                  26 Aug 2002


      XB              Binkleyterm 2.0                 8
                      Dutchie 2.90b
     --------------------------------------
      XC              Opus 1.1                       10
     --------------------------------------
      XP              Seadog                          6
     --------------------------------------
      XR              Opus 1.03                      55
     --------------------------------------
      XW              Fido >12M                     385
                      Tabby
                      KittenMail
     --------------------------------------
      XX              D'Bridge 1.30                4148
                      Frontdoor 1.99b
                      Intermail 2.01
                      T-Mail
     --------------------------------------
      None            QMM                          1432
     --------------------------------------

      CrashMail capable =   2979 ( 31.83 %)
      MailOnly nodes    =   5077 ( 54.25 %)
      Listed-only nodes =    726 (  7.76 %)
      Other             =    577 (  6.17 %)

      [Report produced by NETSTATS - A PD pgm available from 1:106/100]
      [                                 Revised by B Felten, 2:203/208]

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