The F I D O N E W S Volume 19, Number 34 26 Aug 2002 +--------------------------+-----------------------------------------+ | |The newsletter of the | | Fido, Fidonet and dog-with-diskette are | | | FidoNet community. | | US Registered Trademarks of Tom Jennings| | | | | San Francisco, California, USA | | | ____________| | | | | / __ | Crash netmail articles to: | | | / / \ | Editor @ 2:2/2 (+46-31-944907) | | | WOOF! ( /|oo \ | Routed netmail articles to: | | \_______\(_| /_) | Bjorn Felten @ 2:203/0 | | _ @/_ \ _ | Email attach to: | | | | \ \\ | bfelten@telia.com | | | (*) | \ ))| | | |__U__| / \// | Editor: Bj”rn Felten | | ______ _//|| _\ / | | | / Fido \ (_/(_|(____/ | Newspapers should have no friends. | | (________) (jm) | -- JOSEPH PULITZER | +--------------------------+-----------------------------------------+ Copyright 2002 by Fidonews Editor for Fidonews Globally. Table of Contents 1. FOOD FOR THOUGHT ......................................... 1 2. INSIDE ................................................... 2 The Fidonews at a Glance ................................. 2 3. EDITORIAL ................................................ 3 Best of Fidonet .......................................... 3 4. OL'WDB'S COLUMN - WARREN BONNER .......................... 4 Why we forward jokes to our friends ...................... 4 5. FRANK'S COLUMN - FRANK VEST .............................. 6 School Daze .............................................. 6 6. FIDONET'S INTERNATIONAL KITCHEN .......................... 8 Leeky Scallops ........................................... 8 7. CLEAN HUMOUR & JOKES ..................................... 9 Irish Jokes .............................................. 9 Irish lass comes home .................................... 11 8. BEN RITCHEY'S FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING ................... 12 FIDONet Software References .............................. 12 9. FIDONET BY INTERNET ...................................... 16 Fidonet-related Sites .................................... 16 10. SPECIAL INTEREST ........................................ 21 Nodelist Stats ........................................... 21 11. FIDONEWS INFORMATION .................................... 23 How to Submit an Article ................................. 23 Credits, Legal Infomation, Availability .................. 25 FIDONEWS 19-34 Page 1 26 Aug 2002 ================================================================= FOOD FOR THOUGHT ================================================================= It injured your national pride. I see that we all need to learn to lose that national identity when posting here, we are world citizens and as such should be developing a global pride. -- Barry Blackford (in an international fido echo) ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 19-34 Page 2 26 Aug 2002 ================================================================= INSIDE ================================================================= The Fidonews at a Glance In the editorial this week, I tell you about a new column, that I call "Best of Fidonet". Warren Bonner explains "Why we forward jokes to our friends....", or rather some thoughts about how important it is to stick to our friends and why. Frank Vest talks about "School Daze" in his column. About how the staff and the students look differently on the first and the last day at school. Carol teaches us how to make "Leeky Scallops" in our international kitchen. The jokes section is all Irish. First two "Irish Jokes" from Warren's neverending supply of jokes, then something snipped from the HOLYSMOKE echo, about "Irish lass comes home". Finally we have a change in the software listing, with a new list- keeper, Ben Ritchey from now on taking care of the list "FIDONet Software References". I guess some will say it's about time that some- thing finally happened with this list... ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 19-34 Page 3 26 Aug 2002 ================================================================= EDITORIAL ================================================================= Best of Fidonet It's been a while since last you saw an editorial here. I can only blame the wonderful summer for this, and hope to make up for it in the coming editions of the Snooze. First out is a little novelty. I've decided to make the old classic quotations, that's normally making up the Food for Thoughts column, give way for some that are collected from various fidonet echoes. I hope you will enjoy this novelty, if not send a letter to the editor and give your reasons for not doing so. In line with this, I've opened up a new column, that I've named Best of Fidonet. We've had an echo with that name here in R20 (Sweden) for many years, and the thought behind it is, that noone can possibly read all the postings in all the echoes of fidonet, and therefore are likely to miss some of the really good pieces that sometimes occur. In this R20 BOF echo, all the readers were urged to save the best writings they stumbled across in their favorite echoes, and forward it into this single echo, thereby making it less probable that the best parts of fidonet were missed. So, whenever you see some really good posting anywhere, please have the Snooze in mind, and forward it to this new BOF column. But remember, it must be good enough for you to consider tattooing it on your back (as the rules for the Swedish echo stated). If the goodies are just a short sentence, maybe snipped from a larger posting, you could try sending it in as a Food for Thoughts contribution. ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 19-34 Page 4 26 Aug 2002 ================================================================= OL'WDB'S COLUMN - WARREN BONNER ================================================================= Why we forward jokes to our friends.... By Warren Bonner wdbonner@pacbell.net A man and his dog were walking along a road. The man was enjoying the scenery, when it suddenly occurred to him that he was dead. He remembered dying, and that the dog walking beside him had been dead for years. He wondered where the road was leading them. After a while, they came to a high, white stone wall along one side of the road. It looked like fine marble. At the top of a long hill, it was broken by a tall arch that glowed in the sunlight. When he was standing before it he saw a magnificent gate in the arch that looked like Mother of Pearl, and the street that led to the gate looked like pure gold. He and the dog walked toward the gate, and as he got closer, he saw a man at a desk to one side. When he was close enough, he called out, "Excuse me, where are we?" "This is Heaven, sir," the man answered. "Wow! Would you happen to have some water?" the man asked. "Of course, sir. Come right in, and I'll have some ice water brought right up." The man gestured, and the gate began to open. "Can my friend," gesturing toward his dog, "come in, too?" the traveler asked. "I'm sorry, sir, but we don't accept pets." The man thought a moment and then turned back toward the road and continued the way he had been going with his dog. After another long walk, and at the top of another long hill, he came to a dirt road which led through a farm gate that looked as if it had never been closed. There was no fence. As he approached the gate, he saw a man inside, leaning against a tree and reading a book. "Excuse me!" he called to the reader. "Do you have any water?" "Yeah, sure, there's a pump over there." The man pointed to a place that couldn't be seen from outside the gate. "Come on in." "How about my friend here?" the traveler gestured to the dog. "There should be a bowl by the pump." They went through the gate, and FIDONEWS 19-34 Page 5 26 Aug 2002 sure enough, there was an old fashioned hand pump with a bowl beside it. The traveler filled the bowl and took a long drink himself, then he gave some to the dog. When they were full, he and the dog walked back toward the man who was standing by the tree waiting for them. "What do you call this place?" the traveler asked. "This is Heaven," was the answer. "Well, that's confusing", the traveler said, "The man down the road said that was Heaven, too!" "Oh, you mean the place with the gold street and pearly gates? Nope. That's Hell." "Well, Doesn't it make you mad for them to use your name like that?", the traveler asked. "No. I can see how you might think so, but we're just happy that they screen out the folks who'll leave their best friends behind." Soooo... Sometimes, we wonder why friends keep forwarding jokes to us without writing a word, maybe this could explain: When you are very busy, but still want to keep in touch, guess what you do? You forward jokes. When you have nothing to say, but still want to keep contact, you forward jokes. When you have something to say, but don't know what, and don't know how, you forward jokes. And to let you know that you are still remembered, you are still important, you are still loved, you are still cared for, guess what you get? A forwarded joke! So my friend, next time if you get a joke, don't think that you've been sent just another forwarded joke, but that you've been thought of today and your friend on the other end of your computer wanted to send you a smile... Ol'wdb ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 19-34 Page 6 26 Aug 2002 ================================================================= FRANK'S COLUMN - FRANK VEST ================================================================= School Daze By Frank Vest 1:124/6308.1 I'm not sure how other countries' school systems work, so I'll just go with American schools. :) As a former employee of a school system and a high school graduate, I've seen both sides. :) Many of you have kids, or grand kids, that will be starting school. Some have already started. Many of you may be employees of a school system (did you ever leave?). For the rest of you, just remember your school days. :) There are two days of school that are significant, for opposite reasons, depending on who your are. Let's look at them: :The first day of school For the staff; This day is the worst. It doesn't matter if you are a teacher, principal, janitor or what. You've been at work for at least two weeks. You've had meetings constantly (sometimes with people you couldn't stand last year either). Nothing is ready. The schedules are not right. The classrooms are not ready and no one knows what the heck is going on. For the students; This is a great day. None of the bells are working right. No one knows what class you are supposed to be in either. You can be late for class... if you show up at all.. and no one know the difference. You're getting to meet all of your friends again and none of the school staff has any idea of what /YOU/ are planning for /THEM/ this year. :The last day of school For the students; This day is the best (even better if you're graduating from high school). No more teachers loading you with enough homework to last the rest of your life while expecting it turned in the next day. YOU'RE FREE!!! :-) For the staff; While not as bad as the first day of school, this is still not a "walk in the park". Probably the best part is that you are free from those kids for the summer. Of course, you still have a few days to go. You're looking around the classroom, or school building and realizing that although all the books, desks and other stuff was supposed to be FIDONEWS 19-34 Page 7 26 Aug 2002 checked in, cleaned and ready for storage, nothing is done. The paperwork on your desk is still piled up and the grades from the final exams have not been entered into the books.... AND... now you have to figure out what you will do for a summer job to replace the salary you will lose in a few days. Them kids think getting a summer job is hard, they should be "our" age. :) ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 19-34 Page 8 26 Aug 2002 ================================================================= FIDONET'S INTERNATIONAL KITCHEN ================================================================= Leeky Scallops Yield: 4 Servings 4 tb Butter, room temp 1 tb Fresh thyme or 1.5 dry 2 ea Leeks, chopped julianne 2 ea Carrots, chopped julianne 1 lb Bay scallops 3 tb Fresh basil 1 ea Lemon chopped to quarters Mash chopped thyme, with salt and pepper to taste, into the butter. Now blanch the leeks and carrots and set aside. Lay equal amounts of leeks and carrots on 4 foil linings and add scallops. Add lemon juice and the butter evenly about the 4 sets. You can bake these in a preheated oven at 450 degrees for 15 mins, or grill the foil packages. Goes lovely with grilled whole corn, still in the husk and some baking soda type breads of cheese and herb type. For dessert, consider slices of fresh grapefruit. From the kitchen of: xxcarol ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 19-34 Page 9 26 Aug 2002 ================================================================= CLEAN HUMOUR & JOKES ================================================================= Father O'Regis By Warren Bonner wdbonner@pacbell.net Father O'Regis rose from his bed. It was a fine spring day and he walked to the window of his bedroom to get a deep breath of the beautiful day outside. He then noticed there was a jackass lying dead in the middle of his front lawn. He promptly called the local police station. The conversation went like this: "Top o' the day to ye. This is Sgt.Flaherty. How might I help ye?" "And the best of the day te yerself. This is Father O'Malley at St. Anthony's. There's a jackass lying dead in me front lawn. Would ye be so kind as to send a couple o' yer lads to take care of the matter?" Sgt. Flaherty, considering himself to be quite a wit, replied with a smirk, "Well now father, it was always my impression that you people took care of last rites!" There was dead silence on the line for a long moment. Father O'Malley then replied: "Aye, that's certainly true, but we are also obliged to notify the next of kin." - - - - - - - - - - BLESS THE IRISH Mrs. O'Donovan was walking down O'Connell Street in Dublin, and coming in the opposite direction was Father O'Rafferty. "Hello," said the Father, "and how is Mrs. O'Donovan? Didn't I marry you and Bill O'Donovan two years ago?" She replied "Aye, that you did, Father." "And be there any little ones yet?" "No, not yet, Father," said she. "Well, I'm going to Rome next week, and I'll light a candle for you." "Oh, thank you, Father." And away she went. Some years later they met again. "Well, Mrs. O'Donovan," said the priest, "how are you?" FIDONEWS 19-34 Page 10 26 Aug 2002 "Oh, very well," said she. "And tell me," he said, "have you any little ones yet?" "Oh yes, Father. I've had three sets of twins, and four singles - ten children in all." "Now isn't that wonderful," he said. "And how is your lovely husband?" "Oh," she said, "E's gone to Rome to blow out yer damn candle." 8^) Ol'wdb ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 19-34 Page 11 26 Aug 2002 Irish lass comes home (snipped from HOLYSMOKE, posted by Mimi Gallandt) An Irish girl went to London to work as a secretary and began sending home money and gifts to her parents. After a few years they asked her to come home for a visit, as her father was getting frail and elderly. She pulled up to the family home in a Rolls Royce and stepped out wearing fur and diamonds. As she walked into the house her father said "seem to be paying secretaries awfully well in London." The girl took his hands and said "Dad - I've been meaning to tell you something for years but I didn't want to put it in a letter. I can't hide it from you any longer. I've become a prostitute." Her father gasped, put his hand on his heart and keeled over. The doctor was called but the old man had clearly lost the will to live. He was put to bed and the priest was called. As the priest began to administer Extreme Unction, with the mother and daughter weeping and wailing, the old man muttered weakly, "I'm a goner -- killed by my own daughter! Killed by the shame of what you've become!" "Please forgive me!" his daughter sobbed, "I only wanted to have nice things! I wanted to be able to send you money and the only way I could do it was by becoming a prostitute." Brushing the priest aside, the old man sat bolt upright in bed, smiling. "Did you say prostitute? That was a close one - I thought you said Protestant" ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 19-34 Page 12 26 Aug 2002 ================================================================= BEN RITCHEY'S FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING ================================================================= FIDONet Software Reference by Ben Ritchey, 1:393/68 Type: M=Mailer T=Tosser B=BBS D=Door C=Comm/Terminal P=Points E=Editor I=Internet U=Utility ?=Info .- - - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -. |Software Title/Owner |Type |URL/Contact/Author/Version/Notes | `- - - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -' Argus |M |www.ritlabs.com/argus/ | | argus@ritlabs.com Voice: 373-2-246889 | | 2:469/84 v3.210 on Mar 20th 2001 BeeMail |M |beemail.gexonline.net Stephen Proffit | | 1:105/10 BinkleyTerm XE |M |btxe.sourceforge.net 1:1/102 | | v2.60XE/Gamma-6 on Nov 11th 1998 BinkD |MI |2f.ru/binkd/ maloff@corbina.net | | v0.94 on Jul 24th 2000 Fidonet to Internet |MI |www.terminate.com sales@terminate.com | |Bo Bendtsen v2.00 on Mar23rd 1997 FrontDoor, FD/APX: |MTPC |www.defsol.se sales@defsol.se Definite Solutions | | 2:201/330 & 1:1/101 | | v2.26SW & v2.33ml FD, v1.15 APX Husky Project |MTPUI|husky.physcip.uni-stuttgart.de | | (moving to husky.sourceforge.net ?) 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UUE TX FTP| ??? | n/c 218/109 | Matt Munson | BinkP,UUE,TX | 33.6k | n/c 220/10 | groberts|nexusbbs.net |BinkP,FTP,UUE|1.5M+ | n/c 229/1 | Phil Simpson | BinkP UUE FTP | ??? | n/c 229/2000 | Robert Couture |BinkP FTP UUE TX| ??? | 229/622 | Dave Hamilton | BinkP | ??? | n/c 250/98 | Darin McBride | BinkP FTP TX | ??? | n/c 250/99 | Brent McLaren | FTP BinkP | ??? | n/c 250/102 | Darin McBride | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c 267/169 | Philip Lozier | FTP TX | ??? | n/c 261/1380 | Joe Davis | UUE TX | ??? | n/c 275/311 | Shannon Talley|FTP,BinkP,FTP,VMoT,QWK| T1 |n/c 280/169 | Brian Greenstreet | FTP | 33.6 | $2mo. 297/11 | Michael McCabe | TX | ??? | n/c 323/120 | Craig Healy | VMoT FTP | ??? | n/c 342/3 | Richard Dodsworth | BinkP,FTP | 128K+ | n/c 393/48 | Ben Ritchey | UUE:BFDS? | 33.6k | n/c 379/1 | Dale Ross | FTP, BinkP,UUE | 256K+,! n/c 379/1200 | Chris Cranford | BinkP FTP TX | ??? | n/c 396/45 | Marc Lewis |BinkP FTP UUE TX| ADSL | n/c 2215/300 | Dennis Haddox | UUE,TX | CABLE | n/c 2320/38 | Janis Kracht | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c 2410/400 | Gary Gilmore | FTP BinkP | 384K,60| n/c 2410/213 | Kevin Bentz | FTP, BinkP, UUE| Cable | n/c 2604/104 | Jim Mclaughlin | FTP,VMoT,UUE | 33.6 | $1mo 2624/306 | David Calafrancesco | VMoT | 33.6 | n/c 3613/1275 | @ jyates@bsdi.ldl.net | UUE,FTP | 28.8 | n/c 3407/4 | Robert Todd |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c 3632/84 | Robert Todd |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c 3830/5 | Jeff Schrunk |BinkP FTP TX UUE| ??? | n/c 3830/9 | Steve Quarrella |BinkP FTP IFCICO VMoT UUE|?|? -------------------------------------------------------------- Zone 2 | 20/11 | Henrik Lindhe | BinkP | ??? | n/c 22/222 | Kim Heino | BinkP | ??? | n/c 28/1 | Lody Caenen | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c 31/1 | Gabriel Plutzar | BinkP | T1+ | n/c 37/37 | Gabor Z. Papp | BinkP | ??? | n/c 47/999 | Andrej Kirejev | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 53/558 |Vladimir Hrusca|POP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP,ifcico|2mbs|?? 201/329 | Mats Wallin | VMoT TX | ??? | n/c 201/505 | G”ran Eriksson | BinkP | ??? | n/c 201/600 | H†kan Andersson |BinkP,FTP |512kbps| n/c 203/600 | Mikael Karlsson |BinkP,FTP,TX,UUE| 512k | n/c 211/37 | Torbjorn Mohn | BinkP | 8/2mb | n/c 221/360 | Tommi Koivula | BinkP,UUE | ??? | n/c 236/205 | Michael Kaaber | BinkP | ??? | n/c 240/6298 | Steve Tell | BinkP UUE | ??? | n/c 246/2098 | Volker Imre | BinkP | ??? | n/c 252/110 | David Rance | UUE | ??? | n/c 255/90 | Simon Avery | UUE | ??? | n/c 263/950 | Sean Rima | TX UUE | ??? | n/c 280/1027 | Lukas de Groen | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c 280/1601 | Jeroen VanDeLeur | FTP,UUE | 64k | n/c 280/4312 | Jos Huijnen | BinkP ifcico UUE TX| ??? | n/c FIDONEWS 19-34 Page 19 26 Aug 2002 280/5003 | Kees van Eeten | BinkP ifcico | ??? | n/c 292/624 | Steven Leeman | UUE, BinkP | 128k | n/c 292/854 | Ward Dossche | BinkP UUE TX | ??? | n/c 292/2003 | Eric Vaneberck | BinkP | 768k | n/c 301/1 | Peter Witschi | BinkP | 768k | n/c 332/807 | Roberto Mascolo | BinkP | ??? | n/c 333/0 | M Gianformaggio | BinkP | ??? | n/c 335/534 | Mario Mure | BinkP,VMot,UUE | 64k | n/c 335/610 | Gino Lucrezi | UUE | 33.6 | n/c 341/14 | Rafael Suarez | BinkP VMoT | ??? | n/c 341/51 | Jose.Maria Tejada | VMoT | | 341/66 | Angel Ripoll | VMoT | | 343/168 | Jose Casanova | VMoT | | 344/201 | Julio Garcia | BinkP | ??? | n/c 346/3 | Carlos Navarro | UUE | ??? | n/c 347/1 | Javi Polo | UUE | | 348/105 | Alejandro Estraviz| BinkP UUE | | 382/100 | Sinisa Burina | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 400/555 | Ofir Michaeli | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 400/557 | Marius Kaizerman | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 423/81 | Milos Bajer | BinkP | ??? | n/c 461/256 | Andrew Rutkas | BinkP | ??? | n/c 461/640 | Alex Semenyaka |BinkP ifcico UUE| ??? | n/c 465/204 | Va Milushnikov | BinkP | 33.6k | n/c 469/84 | Max Masyutin | VMoT | 256k | n/c 469/128 | Oleg Vasenyoff | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 480/112 | Adam Sarapata| FTP, VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 128k | n/c 550/4077 | Serguei Trouchelle| UUE | ----- | n/c 2410/201 | Karsten Ebeling | BinkP UUE | ??? | n/c 2411/413 | Dennis Dittrich | UUE,BinkP | 64k | n/c 2432/200 | Sven Dueker | BinkP TX UUE | ??? | n/c 2446/301 | Lothar Behet | BinkP,VMoT,UUE,FTP | 64K | n/c 2474/275 | Christian Emig | UUE | 64k | unkn 2487/3000 | Steffen Gross | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5002/5002 | Victor Belyakov | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5014/4 | Alex Bagmanov | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 5020/52 | Peter Didenko | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5020/54 | Serge Wizgounoff | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 5020/69 | B Chernivetsky | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5020/238 | Sergey Gubanov | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5030/115 | Andrey Podkolzin | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5030/1251 | K Stepanekov | UUE | ??? | n/c 5100/8 | Egons Bush | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5020/1159 | Gennady Kudryashoff | UUE | 33.6 | n/c 5049/12 | Amir Shabashvili | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5054/3 | Andrew Popov | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5080/80 | Eugene Zorin | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 5083/21 | Alexander Uskov | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 5090/2 | Andrew Titov | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5100/8 | Egons Bush | BinkP | ??? | n/c -------------------------------------------------------------- Zone 3 633/260 | Malcolm Miles | FTP,BinkP | 64K | n/c 640/954 | Rick Van Ruth | FTP,VMot,UUE,BinkP| 56K| n/c 712/311 | Bob James | TX | ??? | n/c 774/605 | Barry Blackford|BinkP,VMoT:10023,ifcico,FTP |33.6| n/c FIDONEWS 19-34 Page 20 26 Aug 2002 -------------------------------------------------------------- Zone 4 801/161 | Renato Zambon | UUE | 33.6 |n/c 902/18 | Javier Tejedor | UUE | 33,6 | n/c -------------------------------------------------------------- Zone 6 65/3000 | Lawrence Fan | UUE | 33600 | free 653/1009 | Maorong Chen | UUE | ??? | free 654/0 | Bin Li | UUE,BinkP | 33600 | free 654/1501 | Lawrence Fan | UUE,BinkP | 28800 | free -- * FTP = Internet File Transfer Protocol * VMoT = Virtual Mailer over Telnet (various) * UUE = uuencode<->email type transfers * BinkP = front end mailer for TCPIP networks * TX = TransX * NFS = Linux Networking * ifcico = ifcico-compatible virtual mailer * QWK = Quick Packets/Offline mailer "networking" capable ---------------------------------------------- Fidonet oriented news servers news.fidotel.com (currently offline) news.osirusoft.com news.tardis.net nntp://fido.bitsoft.ro nntp://bbs.bitsoft.ro Fidonet oriented chat rooms. room #fidonet 5PM (PDT 11AM GMT) Sundays irc.osirusoft.com (Peers wanted) irc.sinoptix.ro : malay, chinesse, english, #fido, #fidonet, #wwb irc.bitsoft.ro : 6667 russian, english, hebrew, #fido, #wwb irc.tsua.net : 6668 russian, english #fido ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 19-34 Page 21 26 Aug 2002 ================================================================= SPECIAL INTEREST ================================================================= Nodelist Stats Input nodelist nodelist.235 size 1060.7kb date 2002-08-23 The nodelist has 9359 nodes in it and a total of 12250 non-comment entries including 6 zones 58 regions 451 hosts 649 hubs admin overhead 1164 ( 12.44 %) and 939 private nodes 460 nodes down 328 nodes on hold off line overhead 1727 ( 18.45 %) Speed summary: >9600 = 736 ( 7.86 %) 9600 = 8153 ( 87.11 %) (HST = 175 or 2.15 %) (CSP = 1 or 0.01 %) (PEP = 12 or 0.15 %) (MAX = 0 or 0.00 %) (HAY = 1 or 0.01 %) (V32 = 4453 or 54.62 %) (V32B = 474 or 5.81 %) (V34 = 5386 or 66.06 %) (V42 = 4432 or 54.36 %) (V42B = 493 or 6.05 %) 2400 = 95 ( 1.02 %) 1200 = 8 ( 0.09 %) 300 = 367 ( 3.92 %) ISDN = 942 ( 10.07 %) ---------------------------------------------------------- File Req Flag Applicable software Number of systems ---------------------------------------------------------- XA Frontdoor <1.99b 3315 Frontdoor 2.02+ Dutchie 2.90c Binkleyterm >2.1 D'Bridge <1.3 TIMS Xenia -------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 19-34 Page 22 26 Aug 2002 XB Binkleyterm 2.0 8 Dutchie 2.90b -------------------------------------- XC Opus 1.1 10 -------------------------------------- XP Seadog 6 -------------------------------------- XR Opus 1.03 55 -------------------------------------- XW Fido >12M 385 Tabby KittenMail -------------------------------------- XX D'Bridge 1.30 4148 Frontdoor 1.99b Intermail 2.01 T-Mail -------------------------------------- None QMM 1432 -------------------------------------- CrashMail capable = 2979 ( 31.83 %) MailOnly nodes = 5077 ( 54.25 %) Listed-only nodes = 726 ( 7.76 %) Other = 577 ( 6.17 %) [Report produced by NETSTATS - A PD pgm available from 1:106/100] [ Revised by B Felten, 2:203/208] ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 19-34 Page 23 26 Aug 2002 ================================================================= FIDONEWS INFORMATION ================================================================= How to Submit an Article If you wish to submit an article for inclusion in the Fidonews, here are some guidelines, if you send it as an attached file; the preferred method if you want reasonable control over how the published article will appear in the Fidonews: a) Plain ASCII text. 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