The F I D O N E W S Volume 20, Number 02 13 Jan 2003 +--------------------------+-----------------------------------------+ | |The newsletter of the | | Fido, Fidonet and dog-with-diskette are | | | FidoNet community. | | US Registered Trademarks of Tom Jennings| | | | | San Francisco, California, USA | | | ____________| | | | | / __ | Crash netmail articles to: | | | / / \ | Editor @ 2:2/2 (+46-31-944907) | | | WOOF! ( /|oo \ | Routed netmail articles to: | | \_______\(_| /_) | Bjorn Felten @ 2:203/0 | | _ @/_ \ _ | Email attach to: | | | | \ \\ | bfelten@telia.com | | | (*) | \ ))| | | |__U__| / \// | Editor: Bj”rn Felten | | ______ _//|| _\ / | | | / Fido \ (_/(_|(____/ | Newspapers should have no friends. | | (________) (jm) | -- JOSEPH PULITZER | +--------------------------+-----------------------------------------+ Copyright 2003 by Fidonews Editor for Fidonews Globally. Table of Contents 1. FOOD FOR THOUGHT ......................................... 1 2. INSIDE ................................................... 2 The Fidonews at a Glance ................................. 2 3. GENERAL ARTICLES ......................................... 3 One hundred years ........................................ 3 Is Fidonet Still Needed? ................................. 5 2002 Off Centre Rally - The Big U ........................ 7 4. OL'WDB'S COLUMN - WARREN BONNER .......................... 9 When God Made Women ...................................... 9 5. CLEAN HUMOUR & JOKES ..................................... 11 The Divorce .............................................. 11 6. BEN RITCHEY'S FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING ................... 12 FIDONet Software References .............................. 12 7. FIDONET BY INTERNET ...................................... 17 Fidonet-related sites .................................... 17 8. SPECIAL INTEREST ......................................... 22 Nodelist Stats ........................................... 22 9. FIDONEWS INFORMATION ..................................... 24 How to Submit an Article ................................. 24 Credits, Legal Infomation, Availability .................. 26 FIDONEWS 20-02 Page 1 13 Jan 2003 ================================================================= FOOD FOR THOUGHT ================================================================= If you find yourself in a hole the first thing to do is stop diggin'. - Texas Bix Bender ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 20-02 Page 2 13 Jan 2003 ================================================================= INSIDE ================================================================= The Fidonews at a Glance From Warren Bonner this week, an article with some U.S. statistics that gives some perspective on the last "One hundred years". Then we have some interesting thoughts from former fidonet sysop Scott Royall, "Is Fidonet Still needed?" -- a real food for thoughts article. Last contribution, this week, to our general articles section also happens to be the 15th and last day of our bike trip in Australia, the "2002 Off Centre Rally - The Big U". In Warren's column he's getting a bit religious on us in a praise of the women. "When God Made Women" is the headline of that article. After that last one, the step to one of the jokes Warren sent us, "The Divorce", isn't so far off, I think... ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 20-02 Page 3 13 Jan 2003 ================================================================= GENERAL ARTICLES ================================================================= One hundred years By Warren Bonner wdbonner@pacbell.net This ought to boggle your mind, I know it did mine! The year is 1902 .. one hundred years ago ... what a difference a century makes! Here are some of the U.S. statistics for 1902: The average life expectancy in the U.S. was 47 years. Only 14 Percent of the homes in the U.S. had a bathtub. Only 8 percent of the American homes had a telephone. A three-minute call from Denver to New York City cost eleven dollars. There were only 8,000 cars in the U.S., and only 144 miles of paved roads. The maximum speed limit in most cities was 10 mph. Alabama, Mississippi, Iowa, and Tennessee were each more heavily populated than California. With a mere 1.4 million residents, California was only the 21st- most populous state in the Union. The tallest structure in the world was the Eiffel Tower. The average wage in the U.S. was 22 cents an hour. The average U.S. worker made between $200 and $400 per year. A competent accountant could expect to earn $2000 per year, a dentist $2,500 per year, a veterinarian between $1,500 and $4,000 per year, and a mechanical engineer about $5,000 per year. More than 95 percent of all births in the U.S. took place at home. Ninety percent of all U.S. physicians had no college education. Instead, they attended medical schools, many of which were condemned in the press and by the government as "substandard." Sugar cost four cents a pound. Eggs were fourteen cents a dozen. Coffee cost fifteen cents a pound. Most women only washed their hair once a month, and used borax or egg yolks for shampoo. Canada passed a law prohibiting poor people from entering the country for any reason. The five leading causes of death in the U.S. were: 1. Pneumonia and influenza 2. Tuberculosis 3. Diarrhea 4. Heart disease! 5. Stroke FIDONEWS 20-02 Page 4 13 Jan 2003 The American flag had 45 stars. Arizona, Oklahoma, New Mexico, Hawaii, and Alaska hadn't been admitted to the Union yet. The population of Las Vegas, Nevada, was 30. Crossword puzzles, canned beer, and iced tea hadn't been invented. There was no Mother's Day or Father's Day. One in ten U.S. adults couldn't read or write. Only 6 percent of all Americans had graduated high school. Marijuana, heroin, and morphine were all available over the counter at corner drugstores. According to one pharmacist, "Heroin clears the complexion, gives buoyancy to the mind, regulates the stomach and the bowels, and is, in fact, a perfect guardian of health." 18 percent of households in the U.S. had at least one full-time servant or domestic. There were only about 230 reported murders in the entire U.S. Just think what it will be like in another 100 years. ......It boggles the mind....! . Passed on by Bob Crown ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 20-02 Page 5 13 Jan 2003 Is Fidonet Still Needed? By Scott Royall I joined Fidonet in the summer of 1986 as 1:106/357. Back then, BBS were all the rage. It was the first time average people from all over the world could send messages to each other simply by sitting down at their desks and typing on these strange machines called computers. Of course things didn't really start rolling until an unknown named Jeff Rush invented something he called echomail. That simple little concept gave us both an economical way to move messages around, and-more importantly-a vehicle for holding conversations organized by topic. During the late '80's, it was routine for five to eight megabytes of compressed messages to flow into the Houston net every twelve hours. Just getting this mass of mail delivered to the 278 Fidonet BBS Houston had at its height required a squad of dedicated sysops acting as distributors. I had the honor of being both a distributor and a NC during that period. So much for the walk down memory lane. You may say, "that was then, this is now." Maybe, but maybe things aren't as different as we believe. While the Internet has achieved ubiquity, it is not the universal answer. Most notably, it doesn't have a good facility for topical discussion. Newsgroups are really a free-for-all where the only form of topic control is to have a moderator approve every post. The other method, mailing lists, has its share of limitations as well. I find it interesting that what we used to call a BBS seems to be resurfacing on the Internet. They are often called "forums," but they work just like a BBS right down to the user verification and using moderators. I run such a site, www.conchbbs.com , although it's just getting started. (Yes, that's the same domain name I used for my Fidonet BBS.) About the only thing I haven't noticed these sites doing is sharing messages in an echo-like manner, and I think that's just a matter of time. Why would a group of web-based BBS sites share messages? After all, old-style BBS did it to make topics available over a given geographical area while managing the cost of long distance telephone calls, and the Internet doesn't charge by the mile. That's true, but there is a growing trend among providers of charging customers based on the amount of data transferred. The cost right now rests with people like me who are sysops of web-based sites. Web hosts usually charge both a fixed fee and additional sliding charges if extra bandwidth is used. Even if I do my own hosting, it is only a matter of time before my ISP wants to charge based on the amount of their bandwidth used. This is just basic economic sense, and it is likely to drive web-based sysops to find ways of maximizing the usage of their connections just as their telephonic brethren did. That's why I believe that something similar to web-based echomail is a logical step. That statement leaves me with one fundamental aspect of Fidonet to discuss, and that's the sense of community which made it popular. The life of my BBS, Conch, curiously paralleled the life of my best friend, Corby. Corby was a dog, but I wouldn't call him a mere pet. He was the first to come to terms with the limitations of my physical FIDONEWS 20-02 Page 6 13 Jan 2003 disability, and helped me find ways to get around it. The BBS also allowed me an opportunity to be seen for my abilities rather than my disability. Both Corby and the BBS were with me until 2001, although I could see their decline. When Corby died, so little activity was left in Net 106 that keeping the BBS up on an aging OS/2 machine seemed futile. Yet, I must admit that, despite the unending flame-wars among the upper political levels, I have missed the community of Fidonet. Just as I now have a new dog, Lilly, who's trying to carry on with Corby's goodness, perhaps it's time for our virtual friend, Fido, to be reborn on the Internet. Scott Royall ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 20-02 Page 7 13 Jan 2003 2002 Off Centre Rally - The Big U Submitted by David Drummond, 3:640/305 Day 15 - Sunday 17th August (The Causeway to Bundaberg) Before we left, we rang Mum and Dad to see how they were getting on, then rang Rick in Mt Isa Hospital. He is now in the Men's Surgical Ward, and had just had a shower, so is not gingerly up and about. They had set his thumb last Friday and were now talking about sending him back to Brisbane on Thursday or Friday if his lungs improve sufficiently. Good news indeed. We left then, through Emu Park to Rockhampton, and on to Mt Larcom and Calliope. There, we turned inland and took the Many Peaks/Monto road, expecting another nice dirt ride. To our surprise, t was a fairly new good sealed road. Apparently there is a new dam to be built in there shortly, which explains the expensive new road. We rolled into Many Peaks Pub at lunchtime to see about 30 other bikes there as well. It turns out they were mostly workers at the smelter and associated companies. Our meal (two steak sandwiches) took about 1 1/2 hours to come. We sure picked the wrong day to stop there for lunch! While we were there, the clouds rolled in and it started to rain. We were assured that the road wasn't sealed on the Monto side of Many Peaks, the way we were intending to go. Of course, now I started to worry about what the rain was doing to the road and any possible creek crossings. It stopped raining and we finally got our lunch. After wolfing it down, we continued on, in the opposite direction to all the other bikes. The road, thus far, wasn't too bad - just a bit damp in places. It became seal to climb up the range, then dirt again at the top. We turned off onto the Kalpower/Gin Gin road which promptly went into the State Forest on a clay road. The heavens opened up again. We stopped, put on our wet gear and I, for one, started worrying in earnest about how slippery the road would be. Most of it had a thin sprinkling of gravel over it, so I kept away from the shiny parts as best I could, and managed okay. This part was very winding and skinny - definitely not a high speed road. After some time, we climbed over another mountain, then the road opened out and we could get a bit more speed up. The rain had finished now, and I just enjoyed the ride. I fuelled up again at Gin Gin, then we took the Bundaberg Road, turned off at Bullyard for Bucca. We reached our "Country Estate" weekender about 4-ish. No hot shower tonight, but a nice comfortable bed after we devoured the last of our tinned tucker. Conclusion We'd done over 5,000km in three weeks - not a real lot by our standards. David had spent $344 in fuel (average of 16km per litre). FIDONEWS 20-02 Page 8 13 Jan 2003 and I spent $218 (average of 24km per litre). The most we spent for fuel was $1.30 a litre at Urandangie. The least expensive fuel was in Mt Isa at $0.819 in Mt Isa for PULP - even cheaper than Brisbane! Not counting any bike maintenance before or after the trip (including tyres), we'd spent only about $1,500 for the two of us for the 3 week period. This includes accommodation, fuel, food and souvenirs (only two "Dangie Pub" polo shirts). Not too bad I think. Neither of us had any falls at all - quite different to the 2000 Off Centre Rally to Old Mornington Bush Camp in the Kimberley. So neither bike has been damaged. That makes it a successful trip, in my view. Next year, for something completely different, we're planning to go "trekking" in New Zealand with Rick. Then the following year will be Innamincka ... ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 20-02 Page 9 13 Jan 2003 ================================================================= OL'WDB'S COLUMN - WARREN BONNER ================================================================= When God Made Women wdbonner@pacbell.net By the time the Lord made women, he was into his sixth day of working overtime. An Angel appeared and said, "Why are you spending so much time on this one?". And the Lord answered and said, "Have you seen the spec sheet on her? She has to be completely washable, but not plastic, have 200 movable parts, all replaceable, run on black coffee and leftovers, have a lap that can hold three children at one time, have a kiss that can cure anything from a scraped knee to a broken heart, and have six pairs of hands." The Angel was astounded at the requirements for this one. "Six pairs of hands! No Way!", "And that's just on the standard model?" the Angel asked. The Angel tried to stop the Lord. "This is too much work for one day. Wait until tomorrow to finish." "But I can't!", the Lord protested, "I am so close to finishing this creation that is so close to my own heart. She already heals herself when she is sick AND can work 18 hour days." The Angel moved closer and touched the woman, "but you have made her so soft, Lord." "She is soft", the Lord agreed, "but I have also made her tough. You have no idea what she can endure or accomplish." "Will she be able to think?", asked the Angel. The Lord replied, "Not only will she be able to think, she will be able to reason, and negotiate." The Angel then noticed something and reached out and touched the woman's cheek. "Oops, it looks like you have a leak with this model. I told you that you were trying to put too much into this one." "That's not a leak," the Lord objected, that's a tear!" "What's the tear for?" the Angel asked. The Lord said, "The tear is her way of expressing her joy, her sorrow, her pain, her disappointment, her loneliness, her grief, and her pride." The Angel was impressed. "You are a genius, Lord. You thought of everything, for women are truly amazing." Women have strengths that amaze men. They carry hardships, they carry burdens but they hold happiness, love and joy. They smile when they want to scream. They sing when they want to cry. They cry when they are happy and laugh when they are nervous. They fight for what they believe in. They stand up for injustice. They don't take "no" for an answer when they believe there is a better solution. They go without so their family can have. They go to the doctor with a FIDONEWS 20-02 Page 10 13 Jan 2003 frightened friend. They love unconditionally. They cry when their children excel and cheer when their friends get awards. They are happy when they hear about a birth or a new marriage. Their hearts break when a friend dies. They have sorrow at the loss of a family member, yet they are strong when they think there is no strength left. They know that a hug and a kiss can heal a broken heart. Women come in all sizes, in all colors and shapes. They'll drive, fly, walk, run or e-mail you to show how much they care about you. The heart of a woman is what makes the world spin! They bring joy and hope. They give compassion and ideals. They give moral support to their family and friends. Women have a lot to say and a lot to give. I think it is time we men acknowledged our women and Mothers! Take them out to dinner and have a good time, you can let them know that they are Special, and essential in your world, as they are the gravity that holds it together and spins it in the sunlight! Ol'wdb ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 20-02 Page 11 13 Jan 2003 ================================================================= CLEAN HUMOUR & JOKES ================================================================= The Divorce By Warren Bonner wdbonner@pacbell.net A judge was interviewing a woman regarding her pending divorce, and asked, "What are the grounds for your divorce?" She replied, "About four acres and a nice little home in the middle of the property with a stream running by." "No," he said, "I mean what is the foundation of this case?" "It is made of concrete, brick and mortar," she responded. "I mean," he continued, "What are your relations like?" "I have an aunt and uncle living here in town, and so do my husband's parents." He said, "Do you have a real grudge?" "No," she replied, "We have a two-car carport and have never really needed one." "Please," he tried again, "is there any infidelity in your marriage?" "Yes, both my son and daughter have stereo sets. We don't necessarily like the music, but the answer to your questions is yes." "Ma'am, does your husband ever beat you up?" "Yes," she responded, "about twice a week he gets up earlier than I do." Finally, in frustration, the judge asked, "Lady, why do you want a divorce?" "Oh, I don't want a divorce," she replied. "I've never wanted a divorce. My husband does. He said he can't communicate with me!!" ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 20-02 Page 12 13 Jan 2003 ================================================================= BEN RITCHEY'S FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING ================================================================= -=:{ FIDONet Software Reference }:=- Type: M=Mailer T=Tosser B=BBS D=Door C=Comm/Terminal P=Points E=Editor I=Internet U=Utility ?=Info .- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -. |Software: Author |Type |URL, Contact, Ver, Notes Help Node| `- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -' Argus |M |http://www.ritlabs.com/argus/ 2:469/84 | | argus@ritlabs.com Tel: 373-2-246889 | | v3.210 on Mar 20th 2001 BeeMail: |M |http://beemail.gexonline.net 1:105/10 Stephen Proffit | | BinkleyTerm XE |M |http://btxe.sourceforge.net 1:1/102 | | v2.60XE/Gamma-6 on Nov 11th 1998 BinkD |MI |http://2f.ru/binkd/ | | maloff@corbina.net | | v0.94 on Jul 24th 2000 Fidonet to Internet: |MI |http://www.terminate.com Bo Bendtsen | | sales@terminate.com | | v2.00 on Mar23rd 1997 FrontDoor, FD/APX: |MTPC |http://www.defsol.se 2:201/330 Definite Solutions | | sales@defsol.se 1:1/101 | | v2.26SW & v2.33ml FD, v1.15 APX Husky Project |MTPUI|http://husky.sf.net | | v1.2.2 on Dec 28th 2002 InterMail, InterEcho,|MT |http://www.ifido.com 1:1/133 Allfix | | sales@ifido.com | | v2.50 IM, v1.19 IE, v5.13 AF Terminate |MBP |http://www.terminate.com | | v5.00 on Aug 7th 1997 Tmail |MI |http://www.tmail.spb.ru v2608 WildCat! 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UUE TX FTP| ??? | n/c 218/109 | Matt Munson | BinkP,UUE,TX | 33.6k | n/c 220/10 | groberts|nexusbbs.net |BinkP,FTP,UUE|1.5M+ | n/c 229/1 | Phil Simpson | BinkP UUE FTP | ??? | n/c 229/2000 | Robert Couture |BinkP FTP UUE TX| ??? | 229/622 | Dave Hamilton | BinkP | ??? | n/c 250/98 | Darin McBride | BinkP FTP TX | ??? | n/c 250/99 | Brent McLaren | FTP BinkP | ??? | n/c 250/102 | Darin McBride | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c 267/169 | Philip Lozier | FTP TX | ??? | n/c 261/1380 | Joe Davis | UUE TX | ??? | n/c 275/311 | Shannon Talley|FTP,BinkP,FTP,VMoT,QWK| T1 |n/c 280/169 | Brian Greenstreet | FTP | 33.6 | $2mo. 297/11 | Michael McCabe | TX | ??? | n/c 323/120 | Craig Healy | VMoT FTP | ??? | n/c 342/3 | Richard Dodsworth | BinkP,FTP | 128K+ | n/c 393/48 | Ben Ritchey | UUE:BFDS? | 33.6k | n/c 379/1 | Dale Ross | FTP, BinkP,UUE | 256K+,! n/c 379/1200 | Chris Cranford | BinkP FTP TX | ??? | n/c 396/45 | Marc Lewis |BinkP FTP UUE TX| ADSL | n/c 2215/300 | Dennis Haddox | UUE,TX | CABLE | n/c 2320/38 | Janis Kracht | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c 2410/400 | Gary Gilmore | FTP BinkP | 384K,60| n/c 2410/213 | Kevin Bentz | FTP, BinkP, UUE| Cable | n/c 2604/104 | Jim Mclaughlin | FTP,VMoT,UUE | 33.6 | $1mo 2624/306 | David Calafrancesco | VMoT | 33.6 | n/c 3613/1275 | @ jyates@bsdi.ldl.net | UUE,FTP | 28.8 | n/c 3407/4 | Robert Todd |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c 3632/84 | Robert Todd |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c 3634/12 | Mark Lewis |FTP,VMoT,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c 3830/5 | Jeff Schrunk |BinkP FTP TX UUE| ??? | n/c 3830/9 | Steve Quarrella |BinkP FTP IFCICO VMoT UUE|?|? -------------------------------------------------------------- Zone 2 | 20/11 | Henrik Lindhe | BinkP | ??? | n/c 22/222 | Kim Heino | BinkP | ??? | n/c 28/1 | Lody Caenen | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c 31/1 | Gabriel Plutzar | BinkP | T1+ | n/c 37/37 | Gabor Z. Papp | BinkP | ??? | n/c 47/999 | Andrej Kirejev | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 53/558 |Vladimir Hrusca|POP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP,ifcico|2mbs|?? 201/329 | Mats Wallin | VMoT TX | ??? | n/c 201/505 | G”ran Eriksson | BinkP | ??? | n/c 203/600 | Mikael Karlsson |BinkP,FTP,TX,UUE| 512k | n/c 211/37 | Torbjorn Mohn | BinkP | 8/2mb | n/c 221/360 | Tommi Koivula | BinkP,UUE | ??? | n/c 236/205 | Michael Kaaber | BinkP | ??? | n/c 240/6298 | Steve Tell | BinkP UUE | ??? | n/c 246/2098 | Volker Imre | BinkP | ??? | n/c FIDONEWS 20-02 Page 20 13 Jan 2003 252/110 | David Rance | UUE | ??? | n/c 255/90 | Simon Avery | UUE | ??? | n/c 263/950 | Sean Rima | TX UUE | ??? | n/c 280/1027 | Lukas de Groen | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c 280/1601 | Jeroen VanDeLeur | FTP,UUE | 64k | n/c 280/4312 | Jos Huijnen | BinkP ifcico UUE TX| ??? | n/c 280/5003 | Kees van Eeten | BinkP ifcico | ??? | n/c 292/624 | Steven Leeman | UUE, BinkP | 128k | n/c 292/854 | Ward Dossche | BinkP UUE TX | ??? | n/c 292/2003 | Eric Vaneberck | BinkP | 768k | n/c 301/1 | Peter Witschi | BinkP | 768k | n/c 332/807 | Roberto Mascolo | BinkP | ??? | n/c 333/0 | M Gianformaggio | BinkP | ??? | n/c 335/534 | Mario Mure | BinkP,VMot,UUE | 64k | n/c 335/610 | Gino Lucrezi | UUE | 33.6 | n/c 341/14 | Rafael Suarez | BinkP VMoT | ??? | n/c 341/51 | Jose.Maria Tejada | VMoT | | 341/66 | Angel Ripoll | VMoT | | 343/168 | Jose Casanova | VMoT | | 344/201 | Julio Garcia | BinkP | ??? | n/c 346/3 | Carlos Navarro | UUE | ??? | n/c 347/1 | Javi Polo | UUE | | 348/105 | Alejandro Estraviz| BinkP UUE | | 382/100 | Sinisa Burina | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 400/555 | Ofir Michaeli | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 400/557 | Marius Kaizerman | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 423/81 | Milos Bajer | BinkP | ??? | n/c 461/256 | Andrew Rutkas | BinkP | ??? | n/c 461/640 | Alex Semenyaka |BinkP ifcico UUE| ??? | n/c 465/204 | Va Milushnikov | BinkP | 33.6k | n/c 469/84 | Max Masyutin | VMoT | 256k | n/c 469/128 | Oleg Vasenyoff | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 480/112 | Adam Sarapata| FTP, VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 128k | n/c 550/4077 | Serguei Trouchelle| UUE | ----- | n/c 2410/201 | Karsten Ebeling | BinkP UUE | ??? | n/c 2411/413 | Dennis Dittrich | UUE,BinkP | 64k | n/c 2432/200 | Sven Dueker | BinkP TX UUE | ??? | n/c 2446/301 | Lothar Behet | BinkP,VMoT,UUE,FTP | 64K | n/c 2474/275 | Christian Emig | UUE | 64k | unkn 2487/3000 | Steffen Gross | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5002/5002 | Victor Belyakov | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5014/4 | Alex Bagmanov | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 5020/52 | Peter Didenko | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5020/54 | Serge Wizgounoff | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 5020/69 | B Chernivetsky | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5020/238 | Sergey Gubanov | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5030/115 | Andrey Podkolzin | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5030/1251 | K Stepanekov | UUE | ??? | n/c 5100/8 | Egons Bush | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5020/1159 | Gennady Kudryashoff | UUE | 33.6 | n/c 5049/12 | Amir Shabashvili | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5054/3 | Andrew Popov | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5080/80 | Eugene Zorin | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 5083/21 | Alexander Uskov | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 5090/2 | Andrew Titov | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5100/8 | Egons Bush | BinkP | ??? | n/c FIDONEWS 20-02 Page 21 13 Jan 2003 -------------------------------------------------------------- Zone 3 633/260 | Malcolm Miles | FTP,BinkP | 64K | n/c 640/954 | Rick Van Ruth | FTP,VMot,UUE,BinkP| 56K| n/c 712/311 | Bob James | TX | ??? | n/c 774/605 | Barry Blackford|BinkP,VMoT:10023,ifcico,FTP |33.6| n/c -------------------------------------------------------------- Zone 4 801/161 | Renato Zambon | UUE | 33.6 |n/c 902/18 | Javier Tejedor | UUE | 33,6 | n/c -------------------------------------------------------------- Zone 6 65/3000 | Lawrence Fan | UUE | 33600 | free 653/1009 | Maorong Chen | UUE | ??? | free 654/0 | Bin Li | UUE,BinkP | 33600 | free 654/1501 | Lawrence Fan | UUE,BinkP | 28800 | free -- * FTP = Internet File Transfer Protocol * VMoT = Virtual Mailer over Telnet (various) * UUE = uuencode<->email type transfers * BinkP = front end mailer for TCPIP networks * TX = TransX * NFS = Linux Networking * ifcico = ifcico-compatible virtual mailer * QWK = Quick Packets/Offline mailer "networking" capable ---------------------------------------------- Fidonet oriented news servers news.fidotel.com (provides user access to Z1B & WWB) news.osirusoft.com news.tardis.net nntp://fido.bitsoft.ro nntp://bbs.bitsoft.ro Fidonet oriented chat rooms. room #fidonet 5PM (PDT 11AM GMT) Sundays irc.osirusoft.com (Peers wanted) irc.sinoptix.ro : malay, chinesse, english, #fido, #fidonet, #wwb irc.bitsoft.ro : 6667 russian, english, hebrew, #fido, #wwb irc.tsua.net : 6668 russian, english #fido ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 20-02 Page 22 13 Jan 2003 ================================================================= SPECIAL INTEREST ================================================================= Nodelist Stats Input nodelist nodelist.010 size 1026.5kb date 2003-01-10 The nodelist has 9136 nodes in it and a total of 11887 non-comment entries including 6 zones 60 regions 451 hosts 631 hubs admin overhead 1148 ( 12.57 %) and 964 private nodes 309 nodes down 330 nodes on hold off line overhead 1603 ( 17.55 %) Speed summary: >9600 = 724 ( 7.92 %) 9600 = 7928 ( 86.78 %) (HST = 172 or 2.17 %) (CSP = 1 or 0.01 %) (PEP = 11 or 0.14 %) (MAX = 0 or 0.00 %) (HAY = 1 or 0.01 %) (V32 = 4296 or 54.19 %) (V32B = 438 or 5.52 %) (V34 = 5235 or 66.03 %) (V42 = 4327 or 54.58 %) (V42B = 460 or 5.80 %) 2400 = 92 ( 1.01 %) 1200 = 7 ( 0.08 %) 300 = 385 ( 4.21 %) ISDN = 883 ( 9.67 %) ---------------------------------------------------------- File Req Flag Applicable software Number of systems ---------------------------------------------------------- XA Frontdoor <1.99b 3192 Frontdoor 2.02+ Dutchie 2.90c Binkleyterm >2.1 D'Bridge <1.3 TIMS Xenia -------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 20-02 Page 23 13 Jan 2003 XB Binkleyterm 2.0 7 Dutchie 2.90b -------------------------------------- XC Opus 1.1 11 -------------------------------------- XP Seadog 6 -------------------------------------- XR Opus 1.03 48 -------------------------------------- XW Fido >12M 366 Tabby KittenMail -------------------------------------- XX D'Bridge 1.30 4074 Frontdoor 1.99b Intermail 2.01 T-Mail -------------------------------------- None QMM 1432 -------------------------------------- CrashMail capable = 2876 ( 31.48 %) MailOnly nodes = 4960 ( 54.29 %) Listed-only nodes = 714 ( 7.82 %) Other = 586 ( 6.41 %) [Report produced by NETSTATS - A PD pgm available from 1:106/100] [ Revised by B Felten, 2:203/208] ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 20-02 Page 24 13 Jan 2003 ================================================================= FIDONEWS INFORMATION ================================================================= How to Submit an Article If you wish to submit an article for inclusion in the Fidonews, here are some guidelines, if you send it as an attached file; the preferred method if you want reasonable control over how the published article will appear in the Fidonews: a) Plain ASCII text. 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