The F I D O N E W S Volume 20, Number 14 7 Apr 2003 +--------------------------+-----------------------------------------+ | |The newsletter of the | | Fido, Fidonet and dog-with-diskette are | | | FidoNet community. | | US Registered Trademarks of Tom Jennings| | | | | San Francisco, California, USA | | | ____________| | | | | / __ | Crash netmail articles to: | | | / / \ | Editor @ 2:2/2 (+46-31-944907) | | | WOOF! ( /|oo \ | Routed netmail articles to: | | \_______\(_| /_) | Bjorn Felten @ 2:203/0 | | _ @/_ \ _ | Email attach to: | | | | \ \\ | bfelten@telia.com | | | (*) | \ ))| | | |__U__| / \// | Editor: Bj”rn Felten | | ______ _//|| _\ / | | | / Fido \ (_/(_|(____/ | Newspapers should have no friends. | | (________) (jm) | -- JOSEPH PULITZER | +--------------------------+-----------------------------------------+ Copyright 2003 by Fidonews Editor for Fidonews Globally. Table of Contents 1. FOOD FOR THOUGHT ......................................... 1 2. GENERAL ARTICLES ......................................... 2 The People Have A Right To Know .......................... 2 3. CLEAN HUMOUR & JOKES ..................................... 7 Socrates ................................................. 7 A classic with a twist ................................... 9 4. BEN RITCHEY'S FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING ................... 10 FIDONet Software References .............................. 10 5. FIDONET BY INTERNET ...................................... 15 Fidonet-related sites .................................... 15 6. SPECIAL INTEREST ......................................... 20 Nodelist Stats ........................................... 20 7. FIDONEWS INFORMATION ..................................... 22 How to Submit an Article ................................. 22 Credits, Legal Infomation, Availability .................. 24 FIDONEWS 20-14 Page 1 7 Apr 2003 ================================================================= FOOD FOR THOUGHT ================================================================= Too many people spend money they haven't earned, to buy things they don't want, to impress people they don't like. -- Will Rogers ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 20-14 Page 2 7 Apr 2003 ================================================================= GENERAL ARTICLES ================================================================= The People Have A Right To Know, (what we want them to) by Philip Lozier 1:267/169 (*NOTE* Although a result of the past FidoNews article mentioned here, this is in no way a rebutal to that article, as I believe that article was based on what were believed to be the facts by the author. It is in fact a result of the disgust I feel towards the newsmedia handling of the issue presented in that article. Being close to home for me, I was aware of facts that were -not- presented outside my local area. I see it as a wake up call in respects to trusting media content. Although based on an USA issue I am sure the jist of it could apply almost anywhere.) I've gotta tell you, it seems that these days you can't trust a thing presented by the media. In a recent article right here, Shannon Talley, a true American hero in every sense of the word, who believes firmly in the principles of the great nation we both share, had an article published concerning his feelings over what he thought was the trampling on of basic civil rights back here in the USA. This was absolutely not the case, and Mr. Talley, everybody for that matter, should be very careful about trusting facts once they gain attention by media from outside the local area. It wasn't Shannon's fault though. Anybody in his position could be duped by the way our media presents, or actually mis-represents, the facts in any given sittuation. The article was about a man being arrested for wearing a t-shirt that read "give peace a chance" in the Crossgates Mall, near Albany, New York. The allegation was that mall security targeted him like guestapo thugs for wearing an anti-war slogan, and that he was just minding his own business, not "speaking, chanting, raving, nor making speaches." If this was the case, as Mr. Talley was clearly led to believe by the CNN slot he saw, I could understand his being infuriated! After all HE -IS- fighting overseas to protect the idea of freedom and the rights of individuals. What -IS- he fighting for if such injustices are being allowed to occur in his homeland? Unfortunately, Mr. Talley was the victim of media hype and blatant misreporting of the facts by an irresponsible news community. Being local to where this happened, I had the benefit of seeing the local news reports immediately after the incident occured. The glory about local, late-breaking, media coverage is that things are reported right after they happen, before they can get twisted, and you get more of the real facts. I saw the report on a local television station, WRGB Channel 6, (incidently, the first and oldest existing full time broadcast television station), and it was reported that indeed the gentlman in question -was- aproaching other shoppers, and he and his son were engaged in verbal disputes with an entire group of people, of a nature that caused at least one patron of the mall to report it to a store security person with worries that the verbal dispute would FIDONEWS 20-14 Page 3 7 Apr 2003 escalate. At this point, laws were already being broken, such as harrasment of the other shoppers, and disorderly conduct. Hardly a little peaceful innocent freedom of speach or expression thing. Security became involved, and the guy refused to stop his activities, he was asked to leave, refused, so he was, in accordance with New York State Law, arrested for tresspassing. After some discussion with Shannon on this, and him being convinced I was mistaken, I dug for the truth. I was sickened by the articles and reports I saw from outside this area that gave the impression that this guy was targeted just because he was wearing a shirt with an anti-war saying. Mostly very short blurbs that would give anybody the wrong impression and make the owners of Crossgates Mall look like fascist warmongers. It really boiled my blood, knowing better. I guess leaving out a few of the true facts doesn't make it a -real- lie, but the image of a poor peaceful guy expressing himself being targeted sure makes for better press, huh? The facts you ask? Well... during the course of this disgusting search, I finally came across them. The sworn criminal complaint and supporting deposition filed with the local court. Anybody who wishes to view the photo copy images of these documents can do so at http://thesmokinggun.com/archive/crossgates1.html They entirely change the perspective on this incident, show it for what it truly was, and absolutely show that the reports all of you saw outside this area were a blatant case of misreporting. They also show that the facts in Mr. Talley's article were false. Those of you who are interested, and wonder who is "on the watch", can read them and judge for yourself... then wonder where the focus of the watch should be. The actual criminal complaint clearly states that complaints of this guy and his son aproaching and stopping other shoppers were recieved by mall security. The supporting deposition of an undercover detective in Macy's (The store in front of which this occured) states that a woman aproached her about a verbal dispute that was occuring between two men in anti-war shirts and a crowd of people, and that the woman was concerned how the verbal dispute was escalating. Another supporting deposition by one of the mall security really brings it into focus. After being notified about the dispute, he aproached Mr. Downs (our peaceful innocent guy) and was told that he had to stop it. He was told to leave people alone and to remove the shirt (note* there had been an incident in January at the same mall involving many people in anti-war shirts causing a nuisance in the name of "peaceful protest", so concerns could be justified), Mr. Downs refused. He was then told he would have to leave. He again refused, absolutely refused in fact. Mr. Downs was informed that Crossgates mall was private property, and he could be arrested if he refused to comply. He still refused. The guard got the aid of a police officer who tried to talk sense to the guy, to no avail. After a final warning, Mr. Downs was brought to a police sub-station within the FIDONEWS 20-14 Page 4 7 Apr 2003 mall, where he was handed a desk apearance ticket to apear in the local court, and released, under the condition that he leave the mall. Believe it or not, he refused again! He was told if he didn't leave, he would be re-arrested for tresspassing. Do you believe that the guy STILL refused to leave! Is it any wonder they finally put the handcuffs on him? Some innocent peaceful guy just going about his own business! Yea, right. Creating a disturbance with a crowd of people, then acting in a beligerant manner with security and police officials. Then he has the nerve to cry -his- rights were violated. What about the rights of the people he was arguing with? What about the rights of the people who own the mall to have business conducted in their establishment without their patrons being disturbed. Does one think if they walk into a restaraunt and start walking up to tables and bothering the customers eating their lunch, that they won't be asked to leave, and arrested if they don't? Let's be realistic here, just for the sake of common sense! He should have been charged with disorderly conduct, and harrasment, in addition to the measly tresspass they gave him. They were -nice- to him actually... maybe his position on the judicial review board (the guys who investigate cases of misconduct by judges) had something to do with that. Wouldn't -you- want to be the judge hearing -that- case? I am of the same mind as Shannon Talley to be proud to live in a country were we can protest without being shot in the back of our heads, and to be able to speak freely. The US Constitution is paramount, however, often misinterpreted. Freedom of speech does not mean we can walk into private establishments and force our oppinions on others, or call them names if they disagree with us. That is called harassment. Freedom of expression doesn't mean you can cause disturbances in private, or public for that matter, places... that is called disorderly conduct. Protesting. Come on, that's common sense too... if one wishes to protest the actions taken by a government, who do you protest to? Well... I wouldn't think it's a bunch of shoppers who disagree with you... what can they do about it anyway? That's just called dumb, as well as looking for trouble. This brainiac, if he was looking to protest, would have been better off at the State Capital for crying out loud... only a few miles from the mall, and guess what... he had to pass within a few blocks of it to get to the mall, being he came from the town of Selkirk... gotta pass it. He wouldn't have got arrested either! I think the point is proven on this guy, and the media discredited. Read the documents for yourself. Every US citizen should be concerned about their civil rights, but, along with rights, comes responsibility. Hmmm... the news media. Their famous cry... "THE PEOPLE HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW!" hip-hip. Where FIDONEWS 20-14 Page 5 7 Apr 2003 is -their- responsibility? Do we have a right to know the facts, or just what they want to tell us. Maybe just what makes the story more interesting? I spit on the media for the coverage on this story. It has to make you wonder just how much we see coming out of Iraq is true. How many little details were left out? Maybe just that one little one that adds a little more controversy to each story and leads to follow up talk spots, with those advertisement segments for them during each break to draw ratings to a time slot? Does the newsmedia really think that it isn't lies just because they left something out, no matter how it sways the story? ..."Only 30 seconds for that slot, and hey, we told the most important part of it!" ... yea, the part -they- felt was important. Maybe the part that causes somebody to go out into a big protest for something that didn't really happen. Maybe the little part that causes somebody to lose their job. Maybe the part that causes people to get into fistfights over oppinions. Maybe the part that causes a business to shut down. Maybe the part that causes somebody to lose a lawsuit (yea, tell me juries don't get swayed), maybe worse. By misrepresenting the facts, the media caused so much fuss, that the owners of Crossgates Mall were inclined to drop the charges. Why? Because the case had no merit? I think not. Common sense would tell anybody it was to avoid the media frenzy that the case would have spurred. It also inclined them to fire a security guard... why? Because he did something wrong? Nope. PR move, that's all. I'm sure that made his life just wonderful. Why? Because of a public nuisance hiding behind the pretense of his rights. Wonder how easy it will be for him to get another job. We should always be on the watch that our rights are never removed, but we should also be on the watch for those who would abuse those rights, making the ones who REALLY have their rights stepped on discredited and not taken seriously when they should be. People should be better educated on what their rights really are, and what responsibilities come with them, so they aren't under false assumptions and misguided righteousness when they stand up for what they -think- their rights are. Being educated on ones rights will also help them see the rebel rousers for what they really are when they try to stir things up for their own agenda under a pretense of -civil rights-. The newsmedia? Ah... what to do with them. They cause more trouble and stir more people to misguided judgements and actions than I don't know what. What to do with them. I don't know. Their credibility is almost non-existant in my eyes. They are truly a menace to society. These are my oppinions along with the actual facts of this matter. What's the point? I don't know... maybe that while on the watch, that it is important to watch the sources that stir you to actions. Maybe to truly know the facts before making conclusions and judgements. Maybe that in times such as these, it is ever more important to have ones eyes wide open at all times watching for the liars, because it FIDONEWS 20-14 Page 6 7 Apr 2003 could be a real big lie one day that effects all of our lives forever. I myself would have believed the hype as well if not for it being so close to home. It's kind of scary in times like these, not knowing what to believe. Be on the watch. My eyes are definately opened a little bit more when it comes to the media. God bless all of our troops, and may they have a quick and safe return. ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 20-14 Page 7 7 Apr 2003 ================================================================= CLEAN HUMOUR & JOKES ================================================================= Socrates wdbonner@pacbell.net In ancient Greece, Socrates was reputed to hold knowledge in high esteem. One day an acquaintance met the great philosopher and said, "Socrates, do you know what I just heard about your friend?" "Hold on a minute," Socrates replied. "Before telling me anything I'd like you to pass a little test. It's called the Triple Filter Test." "Triple filter?" "That's right," Socrates continued. "Before you talk to me about my friend, it might be a good idea to take a moment and filter what you're going to say. The first filter is Truth. Have you made absolutely sure that what you are about to tell me is true?" "No", the man said, "actually I just heard about it and..." "All right", said Socrates. "So you don't really know if it's true or not. Now let's try the second filter, the filter of Goodness. Is what you are about to tell me about my friend something good?" "No, on the contrary..." "So," Socrates continued, "you want to tell me something bad about him, but you're not certain it's true. You may still pass the test though, because there's one filter left: the filter of Usefulness. Is what you want to tell me about my friend going to be useful to me?" "No, not really." "Well", concluded Socrates, "if what you want to tell me is neither true nor good nor even useful, why tell it to me at all?" This is why Socrates was a great philosopher and held in such high esteem. It also explains why he never found out his best friend was sleeping with his wife. ======================================= The Painter There was a tradesman, a painter called Wayne, who was very interested in making a penny where he could, so he often would thin down paint to make it go a wee bit further. FIDONEWS 20-14 Page 8 7 Apr 2003 As it happened, he got away with this for some time, and eventually the Baptist Church decided to do a big restoration job on the painting of one of their biggest buildings. Wayne put in a bid, and because his price was so low, he got the job. And so he set to erecting the trestles and setting up the planks, and buying the paint and, yes, I am sorry to say, thinning it down with turpentine. Well, Wayne was up on the scaffolding, painting away, the job nearly completed when suddenly there was a horrendous clap of thunder, and the sky opened, the rain poured down, washing the thinned paint from all over the church and knocking Wayne clear off the scaffold to land on the lawn among the gravestones, surrounded by telltale puddles of the thinned and useless paint. Wayne was no fool. He knew this was a judgment from the Almighty, so he got on his knees and cried: "Oh, God! Forgive me! What should I do?" And from the thunder, a mighty voice spoke... (you're going to love this) "Repaint! Repaint! And thin no more!" Ouch ...I'm outta' here! ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 20-14 Page 9 7 Apr 2003 A classic with a twist Sent in by Holger Granholm, 2:20/228 An aircraft is about to crash. There are five passengers on board, but unfortunately only 4 parachutes. The first passenger says "I'm Shaquille O'Neill, the best NBA basketball player. The Lakers need me, it would be unfair to them if I died". So he takes the first parachute and jumps. The second passenger, Hillary Clinton, says "I am the wife of the former President of the United States. I am also the most dedicated woman in the world, a Senator in New York and America's potential future President. She takes one of the parachutes and jumps. The third passenger, George W. Bush, says " I am the President of the United States of America. I have a huge responsibility in world politics. And apart from that, I am the most intelligent President in the history of the country and I have a responsibility to my people not to die". So he takes a parachute and jumps. The fourth passenger, the Pope, says to the fifth passenger, a ten year old schoolboy "I am already old. I have already lived my life, as a good person and a priest I will give you the last parachute". The boy replies "No problem, there is also a parachute for you. 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UUE TX FTP| ??? | n/c 218/109 | Matt Munson | BinkP,UUE,TX | 33.6k | n/c 220/10 | groberts|nexusbbs.net |BinkP,FTP,UUE|1.5M+ | n/c FIDONEWS 20-14 Page 17 7 Apr 2003 229/1 | Phil Simpson | BinkP UUE FTP | ??? | n/c 229/2000 | Robert Couture |BinkP FTP UUE TX| ??? | 229/622 | Dave Hamilton | BinkP | ??? | n/c 250/98 | Darin McBride | BinkP FTP TX | ??? | n/c 250/99 | Brent McLaren | FTP BinkP | ??? | n/c 250/102 | Darin McBride | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c 267/169 | Philip Lozier | FTP TX | ??? | n/c 261/1380 | Joe Davis | UUE TX | ??? | n/c 275/311 | Shannon Talley|FTP,BinkP,FTP,VMoT,QWK| T1 |n/c 280/169 | Brian Greenstreet | FTP | 33.6 | $2mo. 297/11 | Michael McCabe | TX | ??? | n/c 323/120 | Craig Healy | VMoT FTP | ??? | n/c 342/3 | Richard Dodsworth | BinkP,FTP | 128K+ | n/c 379/1 | Dale Ross | FTP, BinkP,UUE | 256K+,! n/c 379/1200 | Chris Cranford | BinkP FTP TX | ??? | n/c 393/68 | Ben Ritchey | UUE:BFDS? | 33.6k | n/c 396/45 | Marc Lewis |BinkP FTP UUE TX| ADSL | n/c 2215/300 | Dennis Haddox | UUE,TX | CABLE | n/c 2320/38 | Janis Kracht | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c 2410/400 | Gary Gilmore | FTP BinkP | 384K,60| n/c 2410/213 | Kevin Bentz | FTP, BinkP, UUE| Cable | n/c 2604/104 | Jim Mclaughlin | FTP,VMoT,UUE | 33.6 | $1mo 2624/306 | David Calafrancesco | VMoT | 33.6 | n/c 3613/1275 | @ jyates@bsdi.ldl.net | UUE,FTP | 28.8 | n/c 3407/4 | Robert Todd |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c 3632/84 | Robert Todd |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c 3634/12 | Mark Lewis |FTP,VMoT,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c 3830/5 | Jeff Schrunk |BinkP FTP TX UUE| ??? | n/c 3830/9 | Steve Quarrella |BinkP FTP IFCICO VMoT UUE|?|? -------------------------------------------------------------- Zone 2 | 20/11 | Henrik Lindhe | BinkP | ??? | n/c 22/222 | Kim Heino | BinkP | ??? | n/c 28/1 | Lody Caenen | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c 31/1 | Gabriel Plutzar | BinkP | T1+ | n/c 37/37 | Gabor Z. Papp | BinkP | ??? | n/c 47/999 | Andrej Kirejev | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 53/558 |Vladimir Hrusca|POP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP,ifcico|2mbs|?? 201/329 | Mats Wallin | VMoT TX | ??? | n/c 201/505 | G”ran Eriksson | BinkP | ??? | n/c 203/600 | Mikael Karlsson |BinkP,FTP,TX,UUE| 512k | n/c 211/37 | Torbjorn Mohn | BinkP | 8/2mb | n/c 221/360 | Tommi Koivula | BinkP,UUE | ??? | n/c 236/205 | Michael Kaaber | BinkP | ??? | n/c 240/6298 | Steve Tell | BinkP UUE | ??? | n/c 246/2098 | Volker Imre | BinkP | ??? | n/c 252/110 | David Rance | UUE | ??? | n/c 255/90 | Simon Avery | UUE | ??? | n/c 263/950 | Sean Rima | TX UUE | ??? | n/c 280/1027 | Lukas de Groen | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c 280/1601 | Jeroen VanDeLeur | FTP,UUE | 64k | n/c 280/4312 | Jos Huijnen | BinkP ifcico UUE TX| ??? | n/c 280/5003 | Kees van Eeten | BinkP ifcico | ??? | n/c 292/624 | Steven Leeman | UUE, BinkP | 128k | n/c 292/854 | Ward Dossche | BinkP UUE TX | ??? | n/c 292/2003 | Eric Vaneberck | BinkP | 768k | n/c FIDONEWS 20-14 Page 18 7 Apr 2003 301/1 | Peter Witschi | BinkP | 768k | n/c 332/807 | Roberto Mascolo | BinkP | ??? | n/c 333/0 | M Gianformaggio | BinkP | ??? | n/c 335/534 | Mario Mure | BinkP,VMot,UUE | 64k | n/c 335/610 | Gino Lucrezi | UUE | 33.6 | n/c 341/14 | Rafael Suarez | BinkP VMoT | ??? | n/c 341/51 | Jose.Maria Tejada | VMoT | | 341/66 | Angel Ripoll | VMoT | | 343/168 | Jose Casanova | VMoT | | 344/201 | Julio Garcia | BinkP | ??? | n/c 346/3 | Carlos Navarro | UUE | ??? | n/c 347/1 | Javi Polo | UUE | | 348/105 | Alejandro Estraviz| BinkP UUE | | 382/100 | Sinisa Burina | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 400/555 | Ofir Michaeli | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 400/557 | Marius Kaizerman | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 423/81 | Milos Bajer | BinkP | ??? | n/c 461/256 | Andrew Rutkas | BinkP | ??? | n/c 461/640 | Alex Semenyaka |BinkP ifcico UUE| ??? | n/c 465/204 | Va Milushnikov | BinkP | 33.6k | n/c 469/84 | Max Masyutin | VMoT | 256k | n/c 469/128 | Oleg Vasenyoff | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 480/112 | Adam Sarapata| FTP, VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 128k | n/c 550/4077 | Serguei Trouchelle| UUE | ----- | n/c 2410/201 | Karsten Ebeling | BinkP UUE | ??? | n/c 2411/413 | Dennis Dittrich | UUE,BinkP | 64k | n/c 2432/200 | Sven Dueker | BinkP TX UUE | ??? | n/c 2446/301 | Lothar Behet | BinkP,VMoT,UUE,FTP | 64K | n/c 2474/275 | Christian Emig | UUE | 64k | unkn 2487/3000 | Steffen Gross | BinkP | ??? | n/c 2800/14 | Aleksandr Galiyev | BinkP,ifcico,VMoT| T1 | n/c 5002/5002 | Victor Belyakov | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5014/4 | Alex Bagmanov | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 5020/52 | Peter Didenko | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5020/54 | Serge Wizgounoff | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 5020/69 | B Chernivetsky | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5020/238 | Sergey Gubanov | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5030/115 | Andrey Podkolzin | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5030/1251 | K Stepanekov | UUE | ??? | n/c 5100/8 | Egons Bush | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5020/1159 | Gennady Kudryashoff | UUE | 33.6 | n/c 5049/12 | Amir Shabashvili | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5054/3 | Andrew Popov | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5080/80 | Eugene Zorin | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 5083/21 | Alexander Uskov | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 5090/2 | Andrew Titov | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5100/8 | Egons Bush | BinkP | ??? | n/c -------------------------------------------------------------- Zone 3 633/260 | Malcolm Miles | FTP,BinkP | 64K | n/c 640/954 | Rick Van Ruth | FTP,VMot,UUE,BinkP| 56K| n/c 712/311 | Bob James | TX | ??? | n/c 774/605 | Barry Blackford|BinkP,VMoT:10023,ifcico,FTP |33.6| n/c -------------------------------------------------------------- Zone 4 801/161 | Renato Zambon | UUE | 33.6 |n/c FIDONEWS 20-14 Page 19 7 Apr 2003 902/18 | Javier Tejedor | UUE | 33,6 | n/c -------------------------------------------------------------- Zone 6 65/3000 | Lawrence Fan | UUE | 33600 | free 653/1009 | Maorong Chen | UUE | ??? | free 654/0 | Bin Li | UUE,BinkP | 33600 | free 654/1501 | Lawrence Fan | UUE,BinkP | 28800 | free -- * FTP = Internet File Transfer Protocol * VMoT = Virtual Mailer over Telnet (various) * UUE = uuencode<->email type transfers * BinkP = front end mailer for TCPIP networks * TX = TransX * NFS = Linux Networking * ifcico = ifcico-compatible virtual mailer * QWK = Quick Packets/Offline mailer "networking" capable ---------------------------------------------- Fidonet oriented news servers nntp://news.fidotel.com (provides user access to Z1B & WWB) nntp://news.osirusoft.com news.tardis.net nntp://fido.bitsoft.ro nntp://bbs.bitsoft.ro Fidonet oriented chat rooms. room #fidonet 5PM (PDT 11AM GMT) Sundays irc.osirusoft.com (Peers wanted) irc.sinoptix.ro : malay, chinesse, english, #fido, #fidonet, #wwb irc.bitsoft.ro : 6667 russian, english, hebrew, #fido, #wwb irc.tsua.net : 6668 russian, english #fido ----------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 20-14 Page 20 7 Apr 2003 ================================================================= SPECIAL INTEREST ================================================================= Nodelist Stats Input nodelist nodelist.094 size 996.0kb date 2003-04-04 The nodelist has 8785 nodes in it and a total of 11532 non-comment entries including 6 zones 59 regions 441 hosts 600 hubs admin overhead 1106 ( 12.59 %) and 984 private nodes 313 nodes down 344 nodes on hold off line overhead 1641 ( 18.68 %) Speed summary: >9600 = 679 ( 7.73 %) 9600 = 7662 ( 87.22 %) (HST = 165 or 2.15 %) (CSP = 1 or 0.01 %) (PEP = 11 or 0.14 %) (MAX = 0 or 0.00 %) (HAY = 1 or 0.01 %) (V32 = 4143 or 54.07 %) (V32B = 412 or 5.38 %) (V34 = 5082 or 66.33 %) (V42 = 4208 or 54.92 %) (V42B = 436 or 5.69 %) 2400 = 88 ( 1.00 %) 1200 = 6 ( 0.07 %) 300 = 350 ( 3.98 %) ISDN = 788 ( 8.97 %) ---------------------------------------------------------- File Req Flag Applicable software Number of systems ---------------------------------------------------------- XA Frontdoor <1.99b 2993 Frontdoor 2.02+ Dutchie 2.90c Binkleyterm >2.1 D'Bridge <1.3 TIMS Xenia -------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 20-14 Page 21 7 Apr 2003 XB Binkleyterm 2.0 7 Dutchie 2.90b -------------------------------------- XC Opus 1.1 11 -------------------------------------- XP Seadog 6 -------------------------------------- XR Opus 1.03 43 -------------------------------------- XW Fido >12M 344 Tabby KittenMail -------------------------------------- XX D'Bridge 1.30 3969 Frontdoor 1.99b Intermail 2.01 T-Mail -------------------------------------- None QMM 1412 -------------------------------------- CrashMail capable = 2704 ( 30.78 %) MailOnly nodes = 4851 ( 55.22 %) Listed-only nodes = 702 ( 7.99 %) Other = 528 ( 6.01 %) [Report produced by NETSTATS - A PD pgm available from 1:106/100] [ Revised by B Felten, 2:203/208] ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 20-14 Page 22 7 Apr 2003 ================================================================= FIDONEWS INFORMATION ================================================================= How to Submit an Article If you wish to submit an article for inclusion in the Fidonews, here are some guidelines, if you send it as an attached file; the preferred method if you want reasonable control over how the published article will appear in the Fidonews: a) Plain ASCII text. 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