The F I D O N E W S Volume 20, Number 15 14 Apr 2003 +--------------------------+-----------------------------------------+ | |The newsletter of the | | Fido, Fidonet and dog-with-diskette are | | | FidoNet community. | | US Registered Trademarks of Tom Jennings| | | | | San Francisco, California, USA | | | ____________| | | | | / __ | Crash netmail articles to: | | | / / \ | Editor @ 2:2/2 (+46-31-944907) | | | WOOF! ( /|oo \ | Routed netmail articles to: | | \_______\(_| /_) | Bjorn Felten @ 2:203/0 | | _ @/_ \ _ | Email attach to: | | | | \ \\ | bfelten@telia.com | | | (*) | \ ))| | | |__U__| / \// | Editor: Bj”rn Felten | | ______ _//|| _\ / | | | / Fido \ (_/(_|(____/ | Newspapers should have no friends. | | (________) (jm) | -- JOSEPH PULITZER | +--------------------------+-----------------------------------------+ Copyright 2003 by Fidonews Editor for Fidonews Globally. Table of Contents 1. FOOD FOR THOUGHT ......................................... 1 2. GENERAL ARTICLES ......................................... 2 A Visit with Friends ..................................... 2 We Have Rights ........................................... 6 3. OL'WDB'S COLUMN - WARREN BONNER .......................... 8 HOW WE TREAT PEOPLE ...................................... 8 4. FIDONET NOTICES .......................................... 10 Donations needed for SysOp! .............................. 10 5. FRANK'S COLUMN - FRANK VEST .............................. 12 A Wondrous Time .......................................... 12 6. CLEAN HUMOUR & JOKES ..................................... 13 ARTHRITIS ................................................ 13 7. BEST OF FIDONET .......................................... 15 Kipling teaches Bush ..................................... 15 8. BEN RITCHEY'S FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING ................... 18 FIDONet Software References .............................. 18 9. FIDONET BY INTERNET ...................................... 23 Fidonet-related sites .................................... 23 10. SPECIAL INTEREST ........................................ 28 Nodelist Stats ........................................... 28 11. FIDONEWS INFORMATION .................................... 30 How to Submit an Article ................................. 30 Credits, Legal Infomation, Availability .................. 32 FIDONEWS 20-15 Page 1 14 Apr 2003 ================================================================= FOOD FOR THOUGHT ================================================================= Only when you can be extremely pliable and soft can you be extremely hard and strong. -- Zen proverb ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 20-15 Page 2 14 Apr 2003 ================================================================= GENERAL ARTICLES ================================================================= A Visit with Friends by Janis Kracht, 1:261/38, janis@filegate.net This may seem strange, writing an article about an even that happened just about a year ago, but since I just received a picture from that event, I figured I'd share it, and it's story with all of you. Moving from one state in the United States to another (in this case, about 750 miles away) is never easy.. and as usual, various obstacles will sometimes get in the way of packing and getting ready for moving day. This move, in May of 2002, was no different... with closing dates shifted on us twice, and software project deadlines that had to be met, Ron and I found ourselves precariously close to the day we were supposed to take off ... with a 12 room house with much still to be packed. So Ron and I then did what most people do in such circumstances... we packed boxes, crates and storage containers day and night !! We had less than a week left to go and the boxes were finally taking over the house. The phone rang in the midst of this marathon packing. Needless to say, I didn't mind taking a break from the exhausting and sometimes tedious chore ... especially to talk on the phone . I was so thrilled (and really surprised! ) to learn that the caller, Anatoly Burov, was a SysOp from Russia, in net 2:5030! He and two other friends had won math and science contests at their school in Russia that gave them each a chance to compete at the International Science and Engineering Competition, sponsored by Intel and held that year in Louisville, Kentucky. The competition would be fierce, no doubt, as the top math and science students from all over the world would be competing for 1st place in each category. Ron and I convinced them that our home was more than walking distance from their downtown Louisville Hotel (The Galt House), so we'd be happy to drive to their hotel and pick them up. I gave Anatoly my description so he could pick me out in the crowd at the Hotel. "Look for the lady with blonde hair, a white shirt, and grungy blue jeans, who's with a tall brown haired guy", I said. I at least knew I'd be looking for three guys hanging out together (grin). Ron and I arrived at the Galt House, which was only about 10 or 15 minutes by car from our house (I swear, everything in Louisville is only 10 or 15 minutes away from any place, because of network of highways there ). We looked around the Lobby through the busy crowd of people for our visitors, and seeing nothing apparent, we sat down hoping to see them emerge from the elevators, or other entrances. Not long after, three fellows wearing headbands approached us timidly.. "Janis??" "Anatoly??" FIDONEWS 20-15 Page 3 14 Apr 2003 We'd found each other - or rather Anatoly, Svjatoslav, and Mikhail had found me! We happily clasped hands, hugged and it felt like we'd already known each other for more than that few moments! It's an amazing thing to me... this entity we call "Fidonet".. where total strangers can meet in the real world, and forget all the nonsense of the world around us, and be as happy to meet a fellow member SysOp, as one would be to meet a brother or sister. We brought them to our car, and started on our way back to our house where we could sit around and discuss things fidonet and otherwise (grin). The ride to our house was full of questions on both sides, and I learned that the three travelers were points in Fidonet from St. Petersburg, Russia. I asked them if they wanted to stop and pick up some beer.. Hey, when have you ever heard of SysOps getting together without that ?? haha.. Well, they told me, No, they weren't interested in beer.. Just as well, really - like any alcohol, beer just kills brain cells (smile). And I got the impression that these fellows had more they wanted out of life than that. I explained to them that Russian points were not "strangers" to me For a long time I had a point on my system from Novosgovod, and I of course asked if they knew him :) I was happy to hear that they did know him, and they were a little surprised that I knew him as well. (Hello Valery Dmitry, if you are reading this ) Once at our home, my two black labs (one 6 years old at the time, and the other about 6 months old then) greeted us at the door (of course).As it turned out, Anatoly, Mikail and Sjvorsky really enjoyed playing with the dogs - the dogs didn't give my visitors much of a choice ... and Priscilla and Toby (my labs) were thrilled to be included in visit. It's not every day that a labrador retriever get to slobber and kiss strangers in your house :) Eventually things calmed down in box laden computer room where we settled.. and I explained the reason for the seemingly unending piles of boxes and containers. Language between us was really no problem at all, as Anatoly and Svjatoslav were incredibly good at both speaking and understanding English. They had explained in the car the type of entries they'd submitted at the science fair, and as we talked, Ron and I were incredibly impressed with these young fellows and what they'd accomplished to be able to come to the United States to compete in this international competition. We discussed the job of Z1C, the never-ending netmail in my netmail folder, and how I managed to keep up with it - we discussed how points were so popular in Russia, and how I had always envied the number of points in Zone 2. Unfortuntely, it's something that never took off in North America the way it has in Europe, though as I said, I did have a number of them in the past, and still do to this day. We talked about my bbs system, and I was happy to show them BBBS with it's land-line modem, telnet and www interface. We also discussed Policy 4, and I was most interested to hear their feelings regarding that, and I was really not so surprised that they're feelings about that were not very different from my own. As I showed them my linux box, I was really happy to hear that one of FIDONEWS 20-15 Page 4 14 Apr 2003 them also had been playing with linux at home.. I gave a few tips to them, with a promise to continue to help if needed in e-mail. We happily swapped e-mail addresses then and since last May, I have been in contact with at least two of my visitors, Anatoly and most recently Svjatoslav, who sent me the photograph and who still logs onto my system to play a few doors . We had some funny moments.. at one point I remember Anatoly writing out his last name and asking me to pronounce it.. well, as you can imagine, I didn't come close (laugh).. I can totally relate to having a last name that is pronounced other than the way it looks.. my married name, Kracht, is pronounced "Krats" by Ron's family - even though it is a dutch name, and should be pronounced Kraahkt (this told to me by _several_ po'd dutch nurses when I was in the hospital, when they heard the way Ron's family pronounced it ). We talked for a few hours that day, and I knew as 9pm drew close that they'd have to return to the hotel .. The competition winners would be announced the next day, and they needed to be ready for that. Anatoly told me that first, he had some gifts that they had brought with them for me, and I was totally amazed at that. They had brought me a very old Russian coin, a key ring with pictures from St. Petersburg on it, and a pin that had their fidonet Net number, 2:5030, engraved on it. I was almost in tears at the thoughtfulness of these guys. I keep these remembrances of our visit next to me on my desk, right alongside my keyboard so that I think of our visit whenever I log on to my system. I still hope that someday they will be able to return to United States for another visit, or that I will be able to visit them in St. Petersburg. They promised to call me the next evening when all was done so that I'd know how they made out in the competition, we got ready to drive them back to their hotel. 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I really doesn't seem that long ago that we were celebrating the turn of the century and the end of a millennium.... I suppose it wasn't that long ago. I'll not argue over when each really ended or began. The scholars can figure that one out. :-) A few years ago, I had the pleasure of working in a facility for "old" people. In America, we call it a "nursing home". The people that are residents there are some of the most amazing people you could ever meet. They have knowledge and experiences that span decades... in some cases, a whole century. When I started my job there, as a janitor, one lady was over 100 years old. She passed away just before I left the job. No, I didn't really get to know her and this isn't about her. It's just that I have thought many times about what experiences she must have had and the things she had seen. Being born in the late 1800's, she witnessed the turn of a century and almost a millennium. She lived through several wars, the centennial of the U.S.A and many other things that we can only read about in history books. What a wondrous thing! In thinking about this, I realized that it will be some 900 years before another generation will even be able to think of witnessing the end of a millennium. I wonder what that generation will have to say about the centuries in this millennium and the people that made it? No, there is no real point to this little article and nothing political or agenda'ed intended. Just a thought in my head of the wondrous things that might happen in this millennium... if we let it happen. With kind regards to all, Frank ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 20-15 Page 13 14 Apr 2003 ================================================================= CLEAN HUMOUR & JOKES ================================================================= ARTHRITIS wdbonner@pacbell.net A drunk man who smelled like beer sat down on a subway seat next to a priest. The man's tie was stained, his face was plastered with red lipstick, and a half empty bottle of gin was sticking out of his torn coat pocket. He opened his newspaper and began reading. After a few minutes the man turned to the priest and asked, " Say, Father, what causes arthritis?" "My Son, it's caused by loose living, being with cheap, wicked women, too much alcohol and a contempt for your fellow man, sleeping around with prostitutes and lack of a bath." "Well, I'll be damned," the drunk muttered, returning to his paper. The priest, thinking about what he had said, nudged the man and apologized. "I'm very sorry. I didn't mean to come on so strong. How long have you had arthritis?" "I don't have it, Father. I was just reading here that the Pope does" >>>>>><<<<<<< Just in case you've had a rough day, here's a stress management technique recommended in all the latest psychological texts. The funny thing is that it really works. 1. Picture yourself near a stream. 2. Birds are softly chirping in the cool mountain air. 3. No one but you knows your secret place. 4. You are in total seclusion from the hectic place called "the world." 5. The soothing sound of a gentle waterfall fills the air with a cascade of serenity. 6. The water is crystal clear. 7. You can easily make out the face of the person you're holding underwater. <<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>> A Christian Puppy A Baptist couple decide that they want to get a dog. As they are walking down the street in town, they notice that a sign in the pet shop is advertising "Christian Puppies." Their interest piqued, they FIDONEWS 20-15 Page 14 14 Apr 2003 go inside. "How do you know they're Christian puppies?" "Watch," says the owner, as he takes one of the dogs and says, "Fetch the Bible." The dog runs over to the desk, and grabs the Bible in its mouth and returns. Putting the Bible on the floor, the owner says, "Find Psalm 23." The dog flips pages with its paw until he reaches the right page, and then stops. Amazed and delighted, the couple purchase the dog and head home. That evening, they invite some friends over and show them the dog, having him run through his Psalm 23 routine. Impressed, one of the visitors asks "Does he also know 'regular' commands?" "Gee, we don't know. We didn't ask," replies the husband. 8^)) Ol'wdb ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 20-15 Page 15 14 Apr 2003 ================================================================= BEST OF FIDONET ================================================================= Kipling teaches Bush ----[ POL_INC ]----------------------- On: Fri 11 Apr 2003 6.19 By: Mimi Gallandt -------------------------------------- Lessons for Bush from Kipling By Janadas Devan 'US SATELLITE surveillance is so sophisticated it can now provide transcripts of high-level meetings before they are held,' wrote New York Times columnist William Safire before going on to describe what British Prime Minister Tony Blair and United States President George W. Bush were likely to say to each other at their Belfast summit. Mr Safire, though, used a 'made in USA' receiver. Not surprisingly, he heard only the part of the conversation where a triumphant Mr Bush bested Mr Blair in argument, ending with this snatch: Mr Blair: Churchill did say, 'In war, resolution... In victory, magnanimity...' Mr Bush: And 'In peace, goodwill'. (At Blair's aghast expression...) Condoleezza briefed me on that one. Using a neutral receiver, here's the rest of the dialogue: Mr Blair: Did she also tell you Churchill got to Iraq long before we did? He was Colonial Secretary when Iraq became British after World War I. He couldn't wait to give it up. Mr Bush: What! Churchill give up? Why? Mr Blair: Because the cost, in blood and treasure, of holding the place was too high. We lost 33,000 men conquering it from the Turks. Mr Bush: We do these things better than you. We have only lost 150 so far, and Baghdad has already fallen. Mr Blair: Yes, you do. But in those days, we had the Gatling gun, and so did the Turks. We won chiefly because we had loads of Indian, Australian and Canadian troops for cannon fodder. But that's not the point. The point is we continued suffering casualties even after driving out the Turks. The locals turned on us. Mr Bush: But you came as conquerors. We come as liberators. You had Lawrence of Arabia, a blood-thirsty empire-builder. We have Wolfowitz of Arabia, a Vietnam-dodging champion of democracy. Mr Blair: Wolfowitz of Arabia in the service of Israel - that's what Arabs think, George. And guess what - they came to the same conclusion FIDONEWS 20-15 Page 16 14 Apr 2003 about us. Churchill told Parliament in 1921: We made pledges 'for the reconstitution of the Arab nation', and we also made pledges 'to establish a Jewish national home in Palestine'. He didn't realize it, but that was a recipe for disaster. Mr Bush: So we have you guys to thank for all this. Mr Blair: Yes. And that's precisely what I'm trying to tell you: We've been there, done that - and failed. We can teach you a thing or two about the bitter lessons of empire. Mr Bush: I'm all ears. Wolfowitz of Arabia is not here. Speak. Mr Blair: First, don't assume the burden of empire, if you can help it; and if you can't, don't assume it by yourself. That was our first mistake in Mesopotamia, as Iraq was then called. We stiffed the French and got the Iraqi mandate all to ourselves. Every problem became our responsibility. Shi'ites hated the Sunnis, the Sunnis hated the Kurds, the Kurds hated the Shi'ites, and everyone hated us. Two, turn the place over to the Iraqis as fast as possible, and get out. That was our second mistake. To provide a veneer of legitimacy for British rule, Churchill installed Faisal, the second son of Sharif Hussein of Mecca, as king. The chap had never laid eyes on Baghdad before. But we arranged for a referendum, got him a 96 per cent vote, and he ascended the throne. Predictably, our exercise in 'nation building' failed. Mr Bush: Ours won't. And we are not going to let the French muck it up for us. The United Nations telling us what to do? No way. We did Japan and Germany without the UN; we can do Iraq ourselves. You know what you'll get with a committee designing a horse? A camel! I won't have camels in Iraq. The UN can distribute food, it can provide health services, it can... Mr Blair: It can give money, George, filthy lucre. Occupying and reconstructing Iraq will cost you at least US$20 billion (S$35.7 billion) a year. That assumes a force of only 75,000 troops - and no rebellions, no guerilla attacks, no suicide bombings. Your own army chief says you need 200,000 troops for peacekeeping. What's your fiscal deficit for 2003, George, even before accounting for these costs? US$400 billion, wasn't it? Mr Bush: We welcome international contributions. We spilt blood to liberate Iraq; others can cough up money for its reconstruction. Mr Blair: No taxation without representation; no international aid without international participation. And more important than all these is international cover. Mr Bush: I didn't need cover going in, why should I need cover to stay? Mr Blair: Because you don't want to own this problem yourself. Everything you set up in Iraq - interim authority, new constitution, new army - will be smeared by you, and therefore lack credibility in FIDONEWS 20-15 Page 17 14 Apr 2003 Arab eyes. If this is going to work, it must have the legitimacy which only the UN can confer. You have the legitimacy of force; that is not the same as the legitimacy of right. You get the UN in, all Arabs, including Iraqis, will be convinced you've come to liberate, not conquer. Don't be fooled by Iraqi cheers. Lebanese cheered the invading Israelis too, before turning on them. You know Kipling? Mr Bush: Yah, ' White Man's burden'. Condoleezza briefed me on that too. But she told me to say 'Democracy's burden'. Mr Blair: Democracy shamocracy. Here's what Kipling said about the burden, the part that people forget: Take up the White Man's burden, Send forth the best ye breed, Go bind your sons to exile To serve your captives' need... Take up the White Man's burden And reap his old reward: The blame of those ye better, The hate of those ye guard. Mr Bush (alarmed): Condoleezza didn't tell me about that part. ('Condi...,' he screams.) L'Chaim Mimi ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 20-15 Page 18 14 Apr 2003 ================================================================= BEN RITCHEY'S FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING ================================================================= -=:{ FIDONet Software Reference }:=- Type: M=Mailer T=Tosser B=BBS D=Door C=Comm/Terminal P=Points E=Editor I=Internet U=Utility ?=Info .- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -. |Software: Author |Type |URL, Contact, Ver, Notes Help Node| `- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -' Argus |M |http://www.ritlabs.com/argus/ 2:469/84 | | argus@ritlabs.com Tel: 373-2-246889 | | v3.210 on Mar 20th 2001 BeeMail: |M |http://beemail.gexonline.net 1:105/10 Stephen Proffit | | beemail@gexonline.net BinkleyTerm XE |M |http://btxe.sourceforge.net 1:1/102 | | v2.60XE/Gamma-6 on Nov 11th 1998 BinkD |MI |http://2f.ru/binkd/ | | maloff@corbina.net | | v0.94 on Jul 24th 2000 Fidonet to Internet: |MI |http://www.terminate.com Bo Bendtsen | | sales@terminate.com | | v2.00 on Mar23rd 1997 FrontDoor, FD/APX: |MTPC |http://www.defsol.se 2:201/330 Definite Solutions | | sales@defsol.se 1:1/101 | | v2.26SW & v2.33ml FD, v1.15 APX Husky Project |MTPUI|http://husky.sf.net | | v1.2.4 on Apr 3rd 2003 InterMail, InterEcho |MT |http://www.ifido.com 1:1/133 | | bob@nwstar.com | | v2.50 IM, v1.19 IE Radius (based on |M |http://fido5012.narod.ru/ 2:5012/38 Argus) | | fido5012@zaural.net Tel: 7-3522-469463 | | v4.009 on Jan 2nd 2003 Terminate |MBP |http://www.terminate.com | | v5.00 on Aug 7th 1997 Tmail |MI |http://www.tmail.spb.ru v2608 WildCat! Interactive |MTBEI|http://www.santronics.com Net Server, Platinum| | sales@santronics.com Xpress: Santronics | | Tel: (305) 248-3204 Software, Inc. | | AUP 450.2 on Jul 9th 2002 +- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+ FIDONEWS 20-15 Page 19 14 Apr 2003 Fidogate |TUI |http://www.fidogate.org | | Martin_Junius@m-j-s.net v4.4.4 FMail |T |http://fmail.nl.eu.org 2:280/1076 | | wijnstra@fmail.nl.eu.org v1.60 JetMail: JetSys |TU |http://www.jetsys.de js@jetsys.de (ATARI ST only) | | v1.01 on Jan 1st 2000 Squish |T |http://www.lanius.com | | sales@lanius.com v1.11 | |http://www.vector11.com/maximus/ Synchronet BBS |TB |http://www.synchro.net | | sysop(at)vert(dot)synchro(dot)net | | v3.10L Beta Watergate |TUI |http://www2.sbbs.se/hp/ramon/ | | ramon@sbbs.se | | v0.93p9 on Dec 14th 1998 +- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+ BBBS |BI |http://www.bbbs.net b@bbbs.net | | v4.00MP on Oct 25th 1999 2:22/222 ELEBBS: The Elevator |B |http://www.elebbs.com Software Production | | elebbs@elebbs.com | | v0.10.RC1 on Jun 9th 2002 Falken BBS |B |http://falkenbbs.com | | v12.0 on Feb 2nd 2002 Hermes II Project |B |http://www.hermesii.org | | info@HermesII.org v3.5.9 Beta Final Maximus BBS |B |http://www.lanius.com | | sales@lanius.com v3.01 | |http://www.vector11.com/maximus/ MBSE BBS: |BI |http://mbse.sourceforge.net 2:280/2802 Michiel Broek | | mbroek@users.sourceforge.net | | v0.33.21 on Jun 4th 2002 Mystic BBS |B |http://www.mysticbbs.com | | v1.07.3 on May 13th 2001 Nexus BBS |B |http://www.nexusbbs.net | | groberts@nexusbbs.net | | v0.99.41.001 beta on Jun 10th 2001 Proboard BBS |B |http://www.proboard.be | | v2.17 on Jun 9th 2002 RemoteAccess BBS: |B |http://www.rapro.com 1:1/120 Bruce Morse | | bfmorse@rapro.com | | v2.62.2SW FIDONEWS 20-15 Page 20 14 Apr 2003 Spitfire BBS: Buffalo|B |http://www.angelfire.com/ia/buffalo/ Creek Software | | MDWoltz@aol.com 1:1/150 | | v3.6 on Aug 20th 1999 Telegard BBS |B |http://www.telegard.net | | support@telegard.net | | v3.09g2 SP4 +- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+ Atlantis Software |D |http://www.jimmyrose.com/atlantis/ | | last update: Jun 2002 BBS Central |D |http://www.rpcomputers.com Bentstone |D |http://www.srupc.com/mall Capabilities Group | | info@stonebenders.com Cheepware: |D |http://www.midnightshour.org/cheepware/ Sean Dennis | | hausmaus@midnightshour.org 1:11/200 DDS (Doorware |D |http://www.doorgames.org 1:2404/201 Distribution System)| | ruth@doorgames.org Ruth Argust | | DoorMUD |D |http://www.dmud.thebbs.org | | v0.98 Jun 1st 2002 Elysium Software |D |http://www.elysoft.com | | mpreslar@mailcity.com Jibben Software |D |http://www.jibbensoftware.com | | scott@jibben.com | | 1995-99 Release dates JNS Software: |D |http://www.geocities.com/jnssoftware/ Rusty Johnson | | rustyjohnson57@hotmail.com | | Tel: (304) 733-0113 John Dailey Software |D |http://www.johndaileysoftware.com | | support@johndaileysoftware.com LORD (Legend of the |D |http://www.lordlegacy.org Red Dragon) Reborn | | mike@lordlegacy.org | | v4.06 on Feb 5th 2001 Lord-II IGMs |D |http://www.shelby.net/wizards/lord2igm/ PC Pursuits |D |http://www.pcpursuits.com | | brucep@pop.kis.net | | Tel: (301) 240-6653 Shining Star |D |http://www.shiningstar.net/bbsdoors/ | | nannette@shiningstar.net Sunrise Doors: |D |http://www.sunrisedoors.com Al Lawrence | | al@sunrisedoors.com FIDONEWS 20-15 Page 21 14 Apr 2003 | | Tel: (404) 256-9518 The Brainex System |D |http://www.brainex.com/brainex_system/ | | stanley@brainex.com 1994-99 Releases Trade Wars |D |http://www.eisonline.com/tradewars/ | | jpritch@eisonline.com | | v3.09 (DOS-32) in 2002 Vagabond Software: |D |http://www.vbsoft.org 1:124/7013 Bryan Turner | | vagabond@vbsoft.org | | last update: Jul 17th 2002 (various) |D |http://www.webnexus.com/users/etow/ +- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+ APoint |PI |http://www.apoint-mail.de | | dirk.pokorny@apoint-mail.de | | v1.25 2:2426/1210.13 OpenXP/32 |PI |http://www.openxp.com 2:248/2004 | | mk@openxp.de v3.8.7 beta Aug 3rd 2002 OpenXP/16 |P |http://www.openxp16.de 2:2433/460 | | my@openxp16.de v3.40 RC3 Apr 28th 2002 CrossPoint (XP) |P |http://www.crosspoint.de | | pm@crosspoint.de v3.12d Dec 22nd 1999 PPoint |P |http://www.alcuf.ca 1:249/114 | | v3.04 on Jan 10th 2000 +- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+ GoldEd+ |E |http://mik.nu/golded-plus/ 2:203/6600 | | v1.1.5 Snapshot on Feb 28th 2003 SqEd32 |E |http://www.sqed.de | | v1.15 on Dec 15th 1999 TimEd |E |http://blizzard.dnsalias.org/fidonet | | mail@ozzmosis.com /timed | | v1.11.a5 in March 2003 3:633/267 +- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+ Allfix |U |ftp://ftp.nwstar.com 1:140/12 | | bob@nwstar.com | | v5.13 (v6?) GiGo |UI |http://www.gigo.com | | v0109 on Jan 9th 1997 Internet Rex: |UI |http://members.shaw.ca/InternetRex/ Charles Cruden | | telnet://xanadubbs.ca 1:342/806 (Khan Software) | | v2.29 on Oct 21st 2001 PeopleComm Terminal |CUI |http://www.peoplecomm.org 1:128/148 (BBS & Telnet w/ | | edward.williams@adelphia.net ZModem) | | v1.01a on Feb 11th 2003 FIDONEWS 20-15 Page 22 14 Apr 2003 TransNet |UI |http://www.ressl.com.ar/transnet/ | | transnet@ressl.com.ar | | v2.11 on Jul 18th 1998 TransX: Multiboard |UI |http://www.multiboard.com/software/ Communications, Inc.| | support@multiboard.com 1:2401/305 | | v3.5 +- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+ National BBS List |? | http://www.usbbs.org Hispanic FIDO/BBS's |? | http://www.conecta2.org/pucela_bbs/ (in Spanish only) | | (Extensive software & BBS Listings) +- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+ File Archives: http://archives.thebbs.org http://www.filegate.org http://sysopscorner.thebbs.org http://www.juge.com http://www.dmine.com/bbscorner/ http://garbo.uwasa.fi http://www.simtel.net http://wuarchive.wustl.edu Note: most also provide FTP access (use ftp:// vice http:// above) *=-=*=.=*=-=*=.=*=-=*=.=*=-=*=.=*=-=*=.=*=-=*=.=*=-=*=.=*=-=*=.=*=-=* Internet: http://bellsouthpwp.net/c/m/cmech617/fidosoft.txt Magic FReq: FIDOSOFT (Use INFO and/or HELP for details) Note: Please send corrections & additions to: Ben Ritchey, 1:393/68 `-==> E-mail FIDONet(at)Bellsouth(dot)net BBS (337) 232-4155 Emeritus: Todd Cochrane, Frank Vest, Peter Popovich ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 20-15 Page 23 14 Apr 2003 ================================================================= FIDONET BY INTERNET ================================================================= . -- -- -- -- --- -- -- -- -- . | FIDONET-RELATED SITES | ` -- -- -- -- --- -- -- -- -- ' 12 APRIL 03 Send updates, corrections and suggestions to Shannon Talley, 1:275/311 or fbi@fidotel.com. 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UUE TX FTP| ??? | n/c 218/109 | Matt Munson | BinkP,UUE,TX | 33.6k | n/c 220/10 | groberts|nexusbbs.net |BinkP,FTP,UUE|1.5M+ | n/c FIDONEWS 20-15 Page 25 14 Apr 2003 229/1 | Phil Simpson | BinkP UUE FTP | ??? | n/c 229/2000 | Robert Couture |BinkP FTP UUE TX| ??? | 229/622 | Dave Hamilton | BinkP | ??? | n/c 250/98 | Darin McBride | BinkP FTP TX | ??? | n/c 250/99 | Brent McLaren | FTP BinkP | ??? | n/c 250/102 | Darin McBride | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c 267/169 | Philip Lozier | FTP TX | ??? | n/c 261/1380 | Joe Davis | UUE TX | ??? | n/c 275/311 | Shannon Talley|FTP,BinkP,FTP,VMoT,QWK| T1 |n/c 280/169 | Brian Greenstreet | FTP | 33.6 | $2mo. 297/11 | Michael McCabe | TX | ??? | n/c 323/120 | Craig Healy | VMoT FTP | ??? | n/c 342/3 | Richard Dodsworth | BinkP,FTP | 128K+ | n/c 379/1 | Dale Ross | FTP, BinkP,UUE | 256K+,! n/c 379/1200 | Chris Cranford | BinkP FTP TX | ??? | n/c 393/68 | Ben Ritchey | UUE:BFDS? | 33.6k | n/c 396/45 | Marc Lewis |BinkP FTP UUE TX| ADSL | n/c 2215/300 | Dennis Haddox | UUE,TX | CABLE | n/c 2320/38 | Janis Kracht | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c 2410/400 | Gary Gilmore | FTP BinkP | 384K,60| n/c 2410/213 | Kevin Bentz | FTP, BinkP, UUE| Cable | n/c 2604/104 | Jim Mclaughlin | FTP,VMoT,UUE | 33.6 | $1mo 2624/306 | David Calafrancesco | VMoT | 33.6 | n/c 3613/1275 | @ jyates@bsdi.ldl.net | UUE,FTP | 28.8 | n/c 3407/4 | Robert Todd |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c 3632/84 | Robert Todd |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c 3634/12 | Mark Lewis |FTP,VMoT,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c 3830/5 | Jeff Schrunk |BinkP FTP TX UUE| ??? | n/c 3830/9 | Steve Quarrella |BinkP FTP IFCICO VMoT UUE|?|? -------------------------------------------------------------- Zone 2 | 20/11 | Henrik Lindhe | BinkP | ??? | n/c 22/222 | Kim Heino | BinkP | ??? | n/c 28/1 | Lody Caenen | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c 31/1 | Gabriel Plutzar | BinkP | T1+ | n/c 37/37 | Gabor Z. Papp | BinkP | ??? | n/c 47/999 | Andrej Kirejev | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 53/558 |Vladimir Hrusca|POP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP,ifcico|2mbs|?? 201/329 | Mats Wallin | VMoT TX | ??? | n/c 201/505 | G”ran Eriksson | BinkP | ??? | n/c 203/600 | Mikael Karlsson |BinkP,FTP,TX,UUE| 512k | n/c 211/37 | Torbjorn Mohn | BinkP | 8/2mb | n/c 221/360 | Tommi Koivula | BinkP,UUE | ??? | n/c 236/205 | Michael Kaaber | BinkP | ??? | n/c 240/6298 | Steve Tell | BinkP UUE | ??? | n/c 246/2098 | Volker Imre | BinkP | ??? | n/c 252/110 | David Rance | UUE | ??? | n/c 255/90 | Simon Avery | UUE | ??? | n/c 263/950 | Sean Rima | TX UUE | ??? | n/c 280/1027 | Lukas de Groen | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c 280/1601 | Jeroen VanDeLeur | FTP,UUE | 64k | n/c 280/4312 | Jos Huijnen | BinkP ifcico UUE TX| ??? | n/c 280/5003 | Kees van Eeten | BinkP ifcico | ??? | n/c 292/624 | Steven Leeman | UUE, BinkP | 128k | n/c 292/854 | Ward Dossche | BinkP UUE TX | 3mb | n/c 292/2003 | Eric Vaneberck | BinkP | 768k | n/c FIDONEWS 20-15 Page 26 14 Apr 2003 301/1 | Peter Witschi | BinkP | 768k | n/c 332/807 | Roberto Mascolo | BinkP | ??? | n/c 333/0 | M Gianformaggio | BinkP | ??? | n/c 335/534 | Mario Mure | BinkP,VMot,UUE | 64k | n/c 335/610 | Gino Lucrezi | UUE | 33.6 | n/c 341/14 | Rafael Suarez | BinkP VMoT | ??? | n/c 341/51 | Jose.Maria Tejada | VMoT | | 341/66 | Angel Ripoll | BinkP, ifcico | | 343/168 | Jose Casanova | VMoT, BinkP | | 344/201 | Julio Garcia | BinkP | ??? | n/c 345/432 | Pablo Romano | VMoT | | 347/1 | Javi Polo | UUE | | 348/105 | Alejandro Estraviz| BinkP UUE | | 348/609 | Redy Rodriguez |BinkP,ifcico,UUE| | 382/100 | Sinisa Burina | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 400/555 | Ofir Michaeli | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 400/557 | Marius Kaizerman | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 423/81 | Milos Bajer | BinkP | ??? | n/c 461/256 | Andrew Rutkas | BinkP | ??? | n/c 461/640 | Alex Semenyaka |BinkP ifcico UUE| ??? | n/c 465/204 | Va Milushnikov | BinkP | 33.6k | n/c 469/84 | Max Masyutin | VMoT | 256k | n/c 469/128 | Oleg Vasenyoff | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 480/112 | Adam Sarapata| FTP, VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 128k | n/c 550/4077 | Serguei Trouchelle| UUE | ----- | n/c 2410/201 | Karsten Ebeling | BinkP UUE | ??? | n/c 2411/413 | Dennis Dittrich | UUE,BinkP | 64k | n/c 2432/200 | Sven Dueker | BinkP TX UUE | ??? | n/c 2446/301 | Lothar Behet | BinkP,VMoT,UUE,FTP | 64K | n/c 2474/275 | Christian Emig | UUE | 64k | unkn 2487/3000 | Steffen Gross | BinkP | ??? | n/c 2800/14 | Aleksandr Galiyev | BinkP,ifcico,VMoT| T1 | n/c 5002/5002 | Victor Belyakov | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5014/4 | Alex Bagmanov | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 5020/52 | Peter Didenko | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5020/54 | Serge Wizgounoff | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 5020/69 | B Chernivetsky | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5020/238 | Sergey Gubanov | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5030/115 | Andrey Podkolzin | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5030/1251 | K Stepanekov | UUE | ??? | n/c 5100/8 | Egons Bush | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5020/1159 | Gennady Kudryashoff | UUE | 33.6 | n/c 5049/12 | Amir Shabashvili | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5054/3 | Andrew Popov | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5080/80 | Eugene Zorin | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 5083/21 | Alexander Uskov | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 5090/2 | Andrew Titov | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5100/8 | Egons Bush | BinkP | ??? | n/c -------------------------------------------------------------- Zone 3 633/260 | Malcolm Miles | FTP,BinkP | 64K | n/c 640/954 | Rick Van Ruth | FTP,VMot,UUE,BinkP| 56K| n/c 712/311 | Bob James | TX | ??? | n/c 774/605 | Barry Blackford|BinkP,VMoT:10023,ifcico,FTP |33.6| n/c -------------------------------------------------------------- Zone 4 FIDONEWS 20-15 Page 27 14 Apr 2003 801/161 | Renato Zambon | UUE | 33.6 | n/c 902/18 | Javier Tejedor | UUE | 33,6 | n/c 905/101 | Ariel Nardelli | Binkp | | 930/1 | David Gonzalez | Binkp | | -------------------------------------------------------------- Zone 6 65/3000 | Lawrence Fan | UUE | 33600 | free 653/1009 | Maorong Chen | UUE | ??? | free 654/0 | Bin Li | UUE,BinkP | 33600 | free 654/1501 | Lawrence Fan | UUE,BinkP | 28800 | free -- * FTP = Internet File Transfer Protocol * VMoT = Virtual Mailer over Telnet (various) * UUE = uuencode<->email type transfers * BinkP = front end mailer for TCPIP networks * TX = TransX * NFS = Linux Networking * ifcico = ifcico-compatible virtual mailer * QWK = Quick Packets/Offline mailer "networking" capable ---------------------------------------------- Fidonet oriented news servers nntp://news.fidotel.com (provides user access to Z1B & WWB) nntp://news.osirusoft.com news.tardis.net nntp://fido.bitsoft.ro nntp://bbs.bitsoft.ro news.rafastd.org nntp://ficbbs.org:999 Fidonet oriented chat rooms. room #fidonet 5PM (PDT 11AM GMT) Sundays irc.osirusoft.com (Peers wanted) irc.sinoptix.ro : malay, chinesse, english, #fido, #fidonet, #wwb irc.bitsoft.ro : 6667 russian, english, hebrew, #fido, #wwb irc.tsua.net : 6668 russian, english #fido ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 20-15 Page 28 14 Apr 2003 ================================================================= SPECIAL INTEREST ================================================================= Nodelist Stats Input nodelist nodelist.101 size 991.6kb date 2003-04-11 The nodelist has 8743 nodes in it and a total of 11475 non-comment entries including 6 zones 59 regions 442 hosts 600 hubs admin overhead 1107 ( 12.66 %) and 987 private nodes 289 nodes down 349 nodes on hold off line overhead 1625 ( 18.59 %) Speed summary: >9600 = 675 ( 7.72 %) 9600 = 7626 ( 87.22 %) (HST = 164 or 2.15 %) (CSP = 1 or 0.01 %) (PEP = 11 or 0.14 %) (MAX = 0 or 0.00 %) (HAY = 1 or 0.01 %) (V32 = 4111 or 53.91 %) (V32B = 412 or 5.40 %) (V34 = 5063 or 66.39 %) (V42 = 4186 or 54.89 %) (V42B = 436 or 5.72 %) 2400 = 87 ( 1.00 %) 1200 = 6 ( 0.07 %) 300 = 349 ( 3.99 %) ISDN = 785 ( 8.98 %) ---------------------------------------------------------- File Req Flag Applicable software Number of systems ---------------------------------------------------------- XA Frontdoor <1.99b 2980 Frontdoor 2.02+ Dutchie 2.90c Binkleyterm >2.1 D'Bridge <1.3 TIMS Xenia -------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 20-15 Page 29 14 Apr 2003 XB Binkleyterm 2.0 9 Dutchie 2.90b -------------------------------------- XC Opus 1.1 11 -------------------------------------- XP Seadog 6 -------------------------------------- XR Opus 1.03 43 -------------------------------------- XW Fido >12M 342 Tabby KittenMail -------------------------------------- XX D'Bridge 1.30 3944 Frontdoor 1.99b Intermail 2.01 T-Mail -------------------------------------- None QMM 1408 -------------------------------------- CrashMail capable = 2694 ( 30.81 %) MailOnly nodes = 4829 ( 55.23 %) Listed-only nodes = 693 ( 7.93 %) Other = 527 ( 6.03 %) [Report produced by NETSTATS - A PD pgm available from 1:106/100] [ Revised by B Felten, 2:203/208] ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 20-15 Page 30 14 Apr 2003 ================================================================= FIDONEWS INFORMATION ================================================================= How to Submit an Article If you wish to submit an article for inclusion in the Fidonews, here are some guidelines, if you send it as an attached file; the preferred method if you want reasonable control over how the published article will appear in the Fidonews: a) Plain ASCII text. 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