The F I D O N E W S Volume 20, Number 19 12 May 2003 +--------------------------+-----------------------------------------+ | |The newsletter of the | | Fido, Fidonet and dog-with-diskette are | | | FidoNet community. | | US Registered Trademarks of Tom Jennings| | | | | San Francisco, California, USA | | | ____________| | | | | / __ | Crash netmail articles to: | | | / / \ | Editor @ 2:2/2 (+46-31-944907) | | | WOOF! ( /|oo \ | Routed netmail articles to: | | \_______\(_| /_) | Bjorn Felten @ 2:203/0 | | _ @/_ \ _ | Email attach to: | | | | \ \\ | bfelten@telia.com | | | (*) | \ ))| | | |__U__| / \// | Editor: Bj”rn Felten | | ______ _//|| _\ / | | | / Fido \ (_/(_|(____/ | Newspapers should have no friends. | | (________) (jm) | -- JOSEPH PULITZER | +--------------------------+-----------------------------------------+ Copyright 2003 by Fidonews Editor for Fidonews Globally. Table of Contents 1. FOOD FOR THOUGHT ......................................... 1 2. OL'WDB'S COLUMN - WARREN BONNER .......................... 2 TRUE CHILDREN'S STORIES .................................. 2 3. CLEAN HUMOUR & JOKES ..................................... 4 Europeans ............................................ 4 4. BEST OF FIDONET .......................................... 7 Gratitude ................................................ 7 5. BEN RITCHEY'S FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING ................... 9 FIDONet Software References .............................. 9 6. FIDONET BY INTERNET ...................................... 14 Fidonet-related sites .................................... 14 7. SPECIAL INTEREST ......................................... 19 Nodelist Stats ........................................... 19 8. FIDONEWS INFORMATION ..................................... 21 How to Submit an Article ................................. 21 Credits, Legal Infomation, Availability .................. 23 FIDONEWS 20-19 Page 1 12 May 2003 ================================================================= FOOD FOR THOUGHT ================================================================= There is no course of life so weak and sottish as that which is managed by order, method, and discipline. -- Montaigne ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 20-19 Page 2 12 May 2003 ================================================================= OL'WDB'S COLUMN - WARREN BONNER ================================================================= TRUE CHILDREN'S STORIES wdbonner@pacbell.net For those who have grown children, this is hilarious & horrendous. For those who have children, this is not funny, it is a warning. For those who have not yet had children, this is birth control. For Fidonetters it is exemplary of some people in some echoes. __________________________________________________ The following came from an anonymous Mother in Austin, Texas: Things I've learned from my Children (honest & no kidding): 1. A king size waterbed holds enough water to fill a 2000 sq. ft. house 2 inches deep. 2. If you spray hair spray on dust bunnies and run over them with roller blades, they can ignite. 3. A 3-year old's voice is louder than 200 adults in a crowded restaurant. 4. If you hook a dog leash over a ceiling fan, the motor is not strong enough to rotate a 42 pound boy wearing Batman underwear and a Superman cape. It is strong enough, however, if tied to a paint can, to spread paint on all four walls of a 20x20 ft. room. 5. You should not throw baseballs up when the ceiling fan is on. When using a ceiling fan as a bat, you have to throw the ball up a few times before you get a hit. A ceiling fan can hit a baseball a long way. 6. The glass in windows (even double-pane) doesn't stop a baseball hit by a ceiling fan. 7. When you hear the toilet flush and the words "uh oh," it's already too late. 8. Brake fluid mixed with Clorox makes smoke, and lots of it. 9. A six-year old can start a fire with a flint rock even though a 36-year old man says they can only do it in the movies. 10. Certain Lego's will pass through the digestive tract of a 4-year old. 11. Play dough and microwave should not be used in the same sentence. 12. Super glue is forever. FIDONEWS 20-19 Page 3 12 May 2003 13. No matter how much Jell-O you put in a swimming pool you still can't walk on water. 14. Pool filters do not like Jell-O. 15. VCR's do not eject PB&J sandwiches even though TV commercials show they do. 16. Garbage bags do not make good parachutes. 17. Marbles in gas tanks make lots of noise when driving. 18. You probably do not want to know what that odor is. 19. Always look in the oven before you turn it on. Plastic toys do not like ovens. 20. The fire department in Austin, TX has a 5-minute response time. 21. The spin cycle on the washing machine does not make earthworms dizzy. 22. It will, however, make cats dizzy. 23. Cats throw up twice their body weight when dizzy. 24. If you wake up and find a suddenly green fish tank with all your fish floating upside down, you will soon realize that your 3 year old has gotten up in the middle of the night and emptied all the fish food and chemicals into the tank. His way of saying you shouldn't have turned off the TV. 25. The mind of a 6-year old is wonderful. First grade...true story: One day the first grade teacher was reading the story of the Three Little Pigs to her class. She came to the part of the story where the first pig was trying to accumulate the building materials for his home. She read, "...And so the pig went up to the man with the wheelbarrow full of straw and said, 'Pardon me sir, but may I have some of that straw to build my house?'" The teacher paused then asked the class, "And what do you think that man said?" One little boy raised his hand and said, "I think he said...'Holy sh*t! A talking pig!'" The teacher was unable to teach for the next 10 minutes. 26. 60% of men who read this will try mixing the Clorox and brake fluid, to see if they can make as much 'smoke' and delusion as some loquacious self appointed intellectuals try to do daily in some of the Fidonet echoes. 8^)) Warn regards, Ol'wdb ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 20-19 Page 4 12 May 2003 ================================================================= CLEAN HUMOUR & JOKES ================================================================= Europeans wdbonner@pacbell.net A curious fellow died one day and found himself waiting in the long line of judgment. As he stood there he noticed that some souls were allowed to march right through the pearly gates into Heaven. Others though, were led over to Satan who threw them into the burning pit. But every so often, instead of hurling a poor soul into the fire, Satan would toss a soul off to one side into a small pile. After watching Satan do this several times, the fellow's curiosity got the best of him. So he strolled over and asked Satan what he was doing. "Excuse me, Prince of Darkness," he said. "I'm waiting in line for judgment, but I couldn't help wondering, why are you tossing those people aside instead of flinging them into the Fires of Hell with the others?" "Ah, those," Satan said with a groan. "They're all from France, Germany and the Balkans, They're still too cold and wet to burn." >>>>>>>><<<<<<<<< After Life of Sister Margaret Sister Margaret was a model nun all of her life, until she was called to get her just rewards. As she approached the pearly gates, Saint Peter said "Hold on, Sister Margaret...not so fast!" "But I have been good all my life and dedicated to the work of the Lord. From the time I was taken in as an infant by the sisters at the convent to my dying breath... I have lived for this moment!" Sister Margaret exclaimed in disbelief. "That is precisely the problem," replied St. Peter, "...you never learned right from wrong and to get into heaven, you must know the difference between right and wrong". "Well, what can I do? I will do anything to get into heaven!" Sister Margaret pleaded. "I am going to have to send you back down to Earth. When you get there, I want you to smoke a cigarette and call me when you are finished. We will discuss your situation then." ordered St. Peter. Sister Margaret returned to Earth, smoked a Camel, and then immediately called St. Peter, coughing and hacking. "Saint Peter" she gasped, "I can hardly breathe, my mouth tastes terrible, my breath stinks, I feel dizzy, and I think I am going to throw up". FIDONEWS 20-19 Page 5 12 May 2003 "Good!" replied the old saint, "Now you are finally getting a feel for right and wrong. Now go out tonight and drink some hard liquor and call me back when you are ready." Sister Margaret phoned St. Peter immediately after taking Jack Daniels. "Saint Peter, I feel woozy... that vile liquid burned my throat and nauseated me...it is all I can do to keep it down." "Good...good! Now you are starting to see the difference between right and wrong," said St. Peter with delight. "Tomorrow I want you to seek out a man and know him in the Biblical sense, and then call me." A week passed before Sister Margaret called St. Peter and left a message: "Yo, Pete...it's Marg...It's gonna be a while!" <<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>> God grant me God grant me the senility to forget the people I never liked anyway, the good fortune to run into the ones I do like, and the eyesight to tell the difference. Now that I'm 'older' (but never to grow up), here's what I've discovered: I. I started out with nothing, and I still have most of it. 2. My wild oats have turned into prunes and All Bran. 3. I finally got my head together; now my body is falling apart. 4. Funny, I don't remember being absent minded. 5. All reports are in; life is now officially unfair. 6. If all is not lost, where is left of it? 7. It is easier to get older than it is to get wiser. 8. Some days you're the dog; some days you're the hydrant. 9. I wish the buck stopped here; I sure could use a few... 10. Kids in the back seat cause accidents. 11. Accidents in the back seat cause kids. 12. It's hard to make a comeback when you haven't been anywhere. 13. The only time the world beats a path to your door is when you're in the bathroom. 14. If God wanted me to touch my toes, he would have put them on my FIDONEWS 20-19 Page 6 12 May 2003 knees. 15. When I'm finally holding all the cards, why does everyone decide to play chess? 16. It's not hard to meet expenses... they're everywhere. 17. The only difference between a rut and a grave is the depth. 18. These days, I spend a lot of time thinking about the hereafter, I go somewhere to get something and then wonder what I'm here after. 19. I AM UNABLE TO REMEMBER IF I HAVE MAILED THIS TO YOU OR NOT!!! HOPE YOU LIKE DUPLICATES!!! 20. Funny, I don't remember being, . . . absent minded... Ol'wdb ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 20-19 Page 7 12 May 2003 ================================================================= BEST OF FIDONET ================================================================= Gratitude ----[ POL_INC ]-------------------------------------------- On: Sun 4 May 2003 7.44 By: Don Martin ----------------------------------------------------------- In counselling, expectations of gratitude are regarded as a classic symptom of a dysfunctional relationship. Significantly eldest siblings (oldest kids at least 5 years senior to the next eldest) often grow up feeling that they have given up their own childhoods to help raise their little brothers and sisters. It typically rankles them that those little brothers and sisters are not grateful to them for that sacrifice. However, those little brothers and sisters tend to be unaware of all that -- they were little kids at the time, after all, getting the care all little kids need. To them, it is immaterial what the source of that care may be so long as their bellies are fed, their clothing on, and their arses wiped. Of course, to have a chance of growing up healthy enough to know what gratitude is and when it is appropriate, they need a good deal more parenting than that, but is enough to keep them alive and with their upbringing, they will mostly never know the difference. And that is about as much as eldest siblings are capable of providing. To know more than feeding, clothing, and cleaning (and spanking, of course -- they are often pretty good at spanking), they also need more real parenting themselves to grow up healthy enough, etc. They tend to form the self-image of the unappreciated caretaker, muttering into his beer (many of these children do manage to grow up to be alcoholics, not surprisingly, since that is often the reason for their parents not being available to parent), "I've worked my fingers to the bone for them, and what do I get for it?" The US, like a young teen thrust into the role of pseudo-parent, has been defining itself ever since independence. We contain too much diversity to have any national knowledge of how to be ourselves, as the Basques, the French, the Chinese, the English, etc. do. Containing all of these, and a good many more besides, we have not been "parented" as a nation by a clear set of cultural expectations. We have instead tended to reject many such sets as being "too old country". We take pride in constantly redefining ourselves (another symptom of dysfunction is erecting coping mechanisms into something to be proud of), and we look down our noses at nations who do not redefine themselves in the same way we do. We were going to win the hearts and minds of the Vietnamese, we are going to bring democracy to Iraq, and we are always yearning to bring other countries into the 21st century. Unappreciated caretakers, we know how to feed, to clothe, to clean -- and to spank. We want to spank the Iraqis for not seeing our war there in quite the same light as we do and being grateful for our efforts and sacrifices. We want to spank the French for not being grateful enough FIDONEWS 20-19 Page 8 12 May 2003 about D-Day to send troops and money to our splendid little adventure to save the Arab world, and we want to spank the UN for not being grateful enough for our parenting (aren't _we_ were the ones who practically created the UN?) to serve as a rubber stamp for US interests -- after all (pseudo-)Daddy knows best! Some days, we want to spank the whole world for its failure to see our trvth and for its lack of gratitude for all we have done for them. As a country, we are dysfunctional, muttering into our beer, "I've worked my fingers to the bone for them, and what do I get for it?" If we are very lucky, we may get over it and really grow up at last. I am not holding my breath. ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 20-19 Page 9 12 May 2003 ================================================================= BEN RITCHEY'S FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING ================================================================= -=:{ FIDONet Software Reference }:=- Type: M=Mailer T=Tosser B=BBS D=Door C=Comm/Terminal P=Points E=Editor I=Internet U=Utility ?=Info .- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -. |Software: Author |Type |URL, Contact, Ver, Notes Help Node| `- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -' Argus |M |http://www.ritlabs.com/argus/ 2:469/84 | | argus@ritlabs.com Tel: 373-2-246889 | | v3.210 on Mar 20th 2001 BeeMail: |M |http://beemail.gexonline.net 1:105/10 Stephen Proffit | | beemail@gexonline.net BinkleyTerm XE |M |http://btxe.sourceforge.net 1:1/102 | | v2.60XE/Gamma-6 on Nov 11th 1998 BinkD |MI |http://2f.ru/binkd/ | | maloff@corbina.net | | v0.94 on Jul 24th 2000 Fidonet to Internet: |MI |http://www.terminate.com Bo Bendtsen | | sales@terminate.com | | v2.00 on Mar23rd 1997 FrontDoor, FD/APX: |MTPC |http://www.defsol.se 2:201/330 Definite Solutions | | sales@defsol.se 1:1/101 | | v2.26SW & v2.33ml FD, v1.15 APX Husky Project |MTPUI|http://husky.sf.net | | v1.4.0 on Feb 11th 2003 InterMail, InterEcho |MT |http://www.ifido.com 1:1/133 | | bob@nwstar.com | | v2.50 IM, v1.19 IE Radius (based on |M |http://fido5012.narod.ru/ 2:5012/38 Argus) | | fido5012@zaural.net Tel: 7-3522-469463 | | v4.009 on Jan 2nd 2003 Terminate |MBP |http://www.terminate.com | | v5.00 on Aug 7th 1997 Tmail |MI |http://www.tmail.spb.ru v2608 WildCat! 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UUE TX FTP| ??? | n/c 218/109 | Matt Munson | BinkP,UUE,TX | 33.6k | n/c 220/10 | groberts|nexusbbs.net |BinkP,FTP,UUE|1.5M+ | n/c FIDONEWS 20-19 Page 16 12 May 2003 229/1 | Phil Simpson | BinkP UUE FTP | ??? | n/c 229/2000 | Robert Couture |BinkP FTP UUE TX| ??? | 229/622 | Dave Hamilton | BinkP | ??? | n/c 250/98 | Darin McBride | BinkP FTP TX | ??? | n/c 250/99 | Brent McLaren | FTP BinkP | ??? | n/c 250/102 | Darin McBride | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c 267/169 | Philip Lozier | FTP TX | ??? | n/c 261/1380 | Joe Davis | UUE TX | ??? | n/c 275/311 | Shannon Talley|FTP,BinkP,FTP,VMoT,QWK| T1 |n/c 280/169 | Brian Greenstreet | FTP | 33.6 | $2mo. 297/11 | Michael McCabe | TX | ??? | n/c 323/120 | Craig Healy | VMoT FTP | ??? | n/c 342/3 | Richard Dodsworth | BinkP,FTP | 128K+ | n/c 379/1 | Dale Ross | FTP, BinkP,UUE | 256K+,! n/c 379/1200 | Chris Cranford | BinkP FTP TX | ??? | n/c 393/68 | Ben Ritchey | UUE:BFDS? | 33.6k | n/c 396/45 | Marc Lewis |BinkP FTP UUE TX| ADSL | n/c 2215/300 | Dennis Haddox | UUE,TX | CABLE | n/c 2320/38 | Janis Kracht | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c 2410/400 | Gary Gilmore | FTP BinkP | 384K,60| n/c 2410/213 | Kevin Bentz | FTP, BinkP, UUE| Cable | n/c 2604/104 | Jim Mclaughlin | FTP,VMoT,UUE | 33.6 | $1mo 2624/306 | David Calafrancesco | VMoT | 33.6 | n/c 3613/1275 | @ jyates@bsdi.ldl.net | UUE,FTP | 28.8 | n/c 3407/4 | Robert Todd |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c 3632/84 | Robert Todd |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c 3634/12 | Mark Lewis |FTP,VMoT,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c 3830/5 | Jeff Schrunk |BinkP FTP TX UUE| ??? | n/c 3830/9 | Steve Quarrella |BinkP FTP IFCICO VMoT UUE|?|? -------------------------------------------------------------- Zone 2 | 20/11 | Henrik Lindhe | BinkP | ??? | n/c 22/222 | Kim Heino | BinkP | ??? | n/c 28/1 | Lody Caenen | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c 31/1 | Gabriel Plutzar | BinkP | T1+ | n/c 37/37 | Gabor Z. Papp | BinkP | ??? | n/c 47/999 | Andrej Kirejev | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 53/558 |Vladimir Hrusca|POP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP,ifcico|2mbs|?? 201/329 | Mats Wallin | VMoT TX | ??? | n/c 201/505 | G”ran Eriksson | BinkP | ??? | n/c 203/600 | Mikael Karlsson |BinkP,FTP,TX,UUE| 512k | n/c 211/37 | Torbjorn Mohn | BinkP | 8/2mb | n/c 221/360 | Tommi Koivula | BinkP,UUE | ??? | n/c 236/205 | Michael Kaaber | BinkP | ??? | n/c 240/6298 | Steve Tell | BinkP UUE | ??? | n/c 246/2098 | Volker Imre | BinkP | ??? | n/c 252/110 | David Rance | UUE | ??? | n/c 255/90 | Simon Avery | UUE | ??? | n/c 263/950 | Sean Rima | TX UUE | ??? | n/c 280/1027 | Lukas de Groen | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c 280/1601 | Jeroen VanDeLeur | FTP,UUE | 64k | n/c 280/4312 | Jos Huijnen | BinkP ifcico UUE TX| ??? | n/c 280/5003 | Kees van Eeten | BinkP ifcico | ??? | n/c 292/624 | Steven Leeman | UUE, BinkP | 128k | n/c 292/854 | Ward Dossche | BinkP UUE TX | 3mb | n/c 292/2003 | Eric Vaneberck | BinkP | 768k | n/c FIDONEWS 20-19 Page 17 12 May 2003 301/1 | Peter Witschi | BinkP | 768k | n/c 332/807 | Roberto Mascolo | BinkP | ??? | n/c 333/0 | M Gianformaggio | BinkP | ??? | n/c 335/534 | Mario Mure | BinkP,VMot,UUE | 64k | n/c 335/610 | Gino Lucrezi | UUE | 33.6 | n/c 341/14 | Rafael Suarez | BinkP VMoT | ??? | n/c 341/51 | Jose.Maria Tejada | VMoT | | 341/66 | Angel Ripoll | BinkP, ifcico | | 343/168 | Jose Casanova | VMoT, BinkP | | 344/201 | Julio Garcia | BinkP | ??? | n/c 345/432 | Pablo Romano | VMoT | | 347/1 | Javi Polo | UUE | | 348/105 | Alejandro Estraviz| BinkP UUE | | 348/609 | Redy Rodriguez |BinkP,ifcico,UUE| | 382/100 | Sinisa Burina | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 400/555 | Ofir Michaeli | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 400/557 | Marius Kaizerman | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 423/81 | Milos Bajer | BinkP | ??? | n/c 461/256 | Andrew Rutkas | BinkP | ??? | n/c 461/640 | Alex Semenyaka |BinkP ifcico UUE| ??? | n/c 465/204 | Va Milushnikov | BinkP | 33.6k | n/c 469/84 | Max Masyutin | VMoT | 256k | n/c 469/128 | Oleg Vasenyoff | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 480/112 | Adam Sarapata| FTP, VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 128k | n/c 550/4077 | Serguei Trouchelle| UUE | ----- | n/c 2410/201 | Karsten Ebeling | BinkP UUE | ??? | n/c 2411/413 | Dennis Dittrich | UUE,BinkP | 64k | n/c 2432/200 | Sven Dueker | BinkP TX UUE | ??? | n/c 2446/301 | Lothar Behet | BinkP,VMoT,UUE,FTP | 64K | n/c 2474/275 | Christian Emig | UUE | 64k | unkn 2487/3000 | Steffen Gross | BinkP | ??? | n/c 2800/14 | Aleksandr Galiyev | BinkP,ifcico,VMoT| T1 | n/c 5002/5002 | Victor Belyakov | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5014/4 | Alex Bagmanov | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 5020/52 | Peter Didenko | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5020/54 | Serge Wizgounoff | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 5020/69 | B Chernivetsky | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5020/238 | Sergey Gubanov | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5030/115 | Andrey Podkolzin | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5030/1251 | K Stepanekov | UUE | ??? | n/c 5100/8 | Egons Bush | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5020/1159 | Gennady Kudryashoff | UUE | 33.6 | n/c 5049/12 | Amir Shabashvili | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5054/3 | Andrew Popov | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5080/80 | Eugene Zorin | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 5083/21 | Alexander Uskov | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 5090/2 | Andrew Titov | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5100/8 | Egons Bush | BinkP | ??? | n/c -------------------------------------------------------------- Zone 3 633/260 | Malcolm Miles | FTP,BinkP | 64K | n/c 640/954 | Rick Van Ruth | FTP,VMot,UUE,BinkP| 56K| n/c 712/311 | Bob James | TX | ??? | n/c 774/605 | Barry Blackford|BinkP,VMoT:10023,ifcico,FTP |33.6| n/c -------------------------------------------------------------- Zone 4 FIDONEWS 20-19 Page 18 12 May 2003 801/161 | Renato Zambon | UUE | 33.6 | n/c 902/18 | Javier Tejedor | UUE | 33,6 | n/c 905/101 | Ariel Nardelli | Binkp | | 930/1 | David Gonzalez | Binkp | | -------------------------------------------------------------- Zone 6 65/3000 | Lawrence Fan | UUE | 33600 | free 653/1009 | Maorong Chen | UUE | ??? | free 654/0 | Bin Li | UUE,BinkP | 33600 | free 654/1501 | Lawrence Fan | UUE,BinkP | 28800 | free -- * FTP = Internet File Transfer Protocol * VMoT = Virtual Mailer over Telnet (various) * UUE = uuencode<->email type transfers * BinkP = front end mailer for TCPIP networks * TX = TransX * NFS = Linux Networking * ifcico = ifcico-compatible virtual mailer * QWK = Quick Packets/Offline mailer "networking" capable ---------------------------------------------- Fidonet oriented news servers nntp://news.fidotel.com (provides user access to Z1B & WWB) nntp://news.osirusoft.com news.tardis.net nntp://fido.bitsoft.ro nntp://bbs.bitsoft.ro news.rafastd.org nntp://ficbbs.org:999 Fidonet oriented chat rooms. room #fidonet 5PM (PDT 11AM GMT) Sundays irc.osirusoft.com (Peers wanted) irc.sinoptix.ro : malay, chinesse, english, #fido, #fidonet, #wwb irc.bitsoft.ro : 6667 russian, english, hebrew, #fido, #wwb irc.tsua.net : 6668 russian, english #fido ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 20-19 Page 19 12 May 2003 ================================================================= SPECIAL INTEREST ================================================================= Nodelist Stats Input nodelist nodelist.129 size 987.9kb date 2003-05-09 The nodelist has 8647 nodes in it and a total of 11422 non-comment entries including 6 zones 60 regions 445 hosts 603 hubs admin overhead 1114 ( 12.88 %) and 995 private nodes 282 nodes down 384 nodes on hold off line overhead 1661 ( 19.21 %) Speed summary: >9600 = 709 ( 8.20 %) 9600 = 7505 ( 86.79 %) (HST = 158 or 2.11 %) (CSP = 1 or 0.01 %) (PEP = 11 or 0.15 %) (MAX = 0 or 0.00 %) (HAY = 1 or 0.01 %) (V32 = 4025 or 53.63 %) (V32B = 407 or 5.42 %) (V34 = 4997 or 66.58 %) (V42 = 4157 or 55.39 %) (V42B = 432 or 5.76 %) 2400 = 82 ( 0.95 %) 1200 = 6 ( 0.07 %) 300 = 345 ( 3.99 %) ISDN = 794 ( 9.18 %) ---------------------------------------------------------- File Req Flag Applicable software Number of systems ---------------------------------------------------------- XA Frontdoor <1.99b 2964 Frontdoor 2.02+ Dutchie 2.90c Binkleyterm >2.1 D'Bridge <1.3 TIMS Xenia -------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 20-19 Page 20 12 May 2003 XB Binkleyterm 2.0 9 Dutchie 2.90b -------------------------------------- XC Opus 1.1 11 -------------------------------------- XP Seadog 6 -------------------------------------- XR Opus 1.03 45 -------------------------------------- XW Fido >12M 342 Tabby KittenMail -------------------------------------- XX D'Bridge 1.30 3865 Frontdoor 1.99b Intermail 2.01 T-Mail -------------------------------------- None QMM 1405 -------------------------------------- CrashMail capable = 2706 ( 31.29 %) MailOnly nodes = 4738 ( 54.79 %) Listed-only nodes = 678 ( 7.84 %) Other = 525 ( 6.07 %) [Report produced by NETSTATS - A PD pgm available from 1:106/100] [ Revised by B Felten, 2:203/208] ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 20-19 Page 21 12 May 2003 ================================================================= FIDONEWS INFORMATION ================================================================= How to Submit an Article If you wish to submit an article for inclusion in the Fidonews, here are some guidelines, if you send it as an attached file; the preferred method if you want reasonable control over how the published article will appear in the Fidonews: a) Plain ASCII text. 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