Volume 5, Number 17 25 April 1988 +---------------------------------------------------------------+ | _ | | / \ | | /|oo \ | | - FidoNews - (_| /_) | | _`@/_ \ _ | | International | | \ \\ | | FidoNet Association | (*) | \ )) | | Newsletter ______ |__U__| / \// | | / FIDO \ _//|| _\ / | | (________) (_/(_|(____/ | | (jm) | +---------------------------------------------------------------+ Editor in Chief Dale Lovell Editor Emeritus: Thom Henderson Chief Procrastinator Emeritus: Tom Jennings Contributing Editors: Al Arango FidoNews is published weekly by the International FidoNet Association as its official newsletter. You are encouraged to submit articles for publication in FidoNews. Article submission standards are contained in the file ARTSPEC.DOC, available from node 1:1/1. Copyright 1988 by the International FidoNet Association. All rights reserved. Duplication and/or distribution permitted for noncommercial purposes only. For use in other circumstances, please contact IFNA at (314) 576-4067. IFNA may also be contacted at PO Box 41143, St. Louis, MO 63141. Fido and FidoNet are registered trademarks of Tom Jennings of Fido Software, 164 Shipley Avenue, San Francisco, CA 94107 and are used with permission. The contents of the articles contained here are not our responsibility, nor do we necessarily agree with them. Everything here is subject to debate. We publish EVERYTHING received. Table of Contents 1. EDITORIAL ................................................ 1 Questions Concerning FidoNet ............................. 1 2. ARTICLES ................................................. 3 New EchoMail Conference: OS/9? ........................... 3 Two and Three Dimensional Numerical Movements ............ 4 3. NOTICES .................................................. 10 The Interrupt Stack ...................................... 10 Latest Software Versions ................................. 10 4. COMMITTEE REPORTS ........................................ 12 New Discounts for IFNA Members ........................... 12 FidoNews 5-17 Page 1 25 Apr 1988 ================================================================= EDITORIAL ================================================================= QUESTIONS CONCERNING FIDONET Do you believe that FidoNet should be used to promote international communications and good-will? Do you believe that FidoNet should be used to assist a wide variety of charitable concerns? Do you wish to enjoy more communications-oriented and ancillary services? Do you wish to reduce the size of your monthly phone bill? Do you believe that FidoNet's future directions should be decided not by a few but democratically by all those concerned? Do you think that FidoNet should be a place of fair treatment, justice and respect for one another? Do you want to see an end to the squabbling and confusion and see everyone turn their attention toward making FidoNet all that it can be? Do you believe that FidoNet should be protected from adverse outside influences? Do you believe that the financial burden of supporting FidoNet should be borne by others than sysops only? If you have answered "Yes" to any of the questions above, you have a reason for joining and supporting IFNA. IFNA supports and is working for implementation of all those ideals stated above. There is a popular misconception that IFNA is some outside agency, come to wrest control of FidoNet from those that are currently running it. In fact, nothing could be further from the truth. The Coordinator Structure was originally created by past and present leaders of IFNA. It is fully supported by IFNA which recognizes the benefits of maintaining the current separation of responsibilities wherein the operational concerns are handled by the coordinators while the IFNA structures deal with all the political considerations. Efforts are underway now on both sides to jointly define the limits of responsibility of the respective bodies and the details of the necessary interfaces between them. Nearly every Regional Coordinator has, by joining IFNA, stated a recognition of the need for the political organization that IFNA can provide for representing FidoNet's interests with all outside agencies and for making sure that FidoNet is responsive to the needs and will of all, not just a few. FidoNews 5-17 Page 2 25 Apr 1988 Who are the leaders of FidoNet who have not become members of IFNA? Not very many. And why? Because those diligently working to serve FidoNet recognize that there are many potential benefits to be gained for FidoNet from such an organization. That's certainly not to say that everyone agrees on what those benefits should be or how they should be attained, but IFNA still provides the structure and rules that presently allow the greatest chance for these and similar questions to be resolved. Have you noticed that Tom Jennings, the "Father of FIdoNet" is not only an IFNA member and supporter, but has also charged IFNA with executing his long-standing principles of promoting FidoNet for the good of all that would use and serve it well? Who do you think TJ supports - those that are trying to make the most out of the many opportunities that IFNA offers FidoNet or those that would cripple or destroy it? On which side are you? If you are a sysop that cares about FidoNet's future and believes in all the benefits that so many can can derive from it, you owe it to them, yourself, and those that have already committed so much to FidoNet, to take full advantage of the opportunities IFNA provides: o Leadership - If you have ideas of what FidoNet should be, IFNA provides you many positions from which you can promote them. o Representation - If you can't participate directly, you can utilize the various democratic processes of IFNA to still have your concerns and ideas heard and acted upon. o Optimization - By pooling resources and talents you can optimize the efforts of yourself and others towards whatever aspects of the common good you choose. o Fellowship - By forgoing a contentious position and joining in with fellow sysops actively trying to solve current problems and meet future needs, you should share a greater understanding and respect. And the fun should come back. If you don't accept IFNA as simply a tool that you can manipulate to accomplish what you want for FidoNet, then you are cheating yourself and all of FidoNet. Don Daniels, President International FidoNet Association 1:107/210 If you doubt what has been said above, send me a message. Please include your voice line and indicate a good time for a return call. We're willing to try and find the common ground so that we all may build upon it. ----------------------------------------------------------------- FidoNews 5-17 Page 3 25 Apr 1988 ================================================================= ARTICLES ================================================================= New EchoMail Conference: OS/9? Robert Heller @ Locks-Hill-BBS.NA.FIDONET (1:322/410.0) I am looking for other people who are interested in the OS/9 operating system, particularly the 68000 version. I have two 68K systems: an Atari 1040ST (running TOS and OS/9-68000 V2.2) and a Stride 440 (running CP/M-68K V1.2). OS/9 is a somewhat UNIX-like operating system, but smaller and saner. It was originally written for the Radio Shack ColorComputer (a 6809-based BASIC-in-ROM toy), but has been ported to the 68000 family, including the Atari ST series. I plan to port it to my Stride 440 this summer. If you are interested in carrying an OS/9 echo, please contact me via NetMail. ----------------------------------------------------------------- FidoNews 5-17 Page 4 25 Apr 1988 Fredric L. Rice (103/503.3 - Astro-Net) There is a program which allows the operator to symbolically move objects within a two dimensional representation of a grid whose dimensions are usually one hundred by one hundred points. Working within these limits, the object is moved from point to point searching for other objects by employing a limited field of vision. This program, if you haven't already guessed, is the old Star Trek game. Variations tried years after the initial release, after the newness of hunting down defenseless Klingons and reducing them to numeric rubble, included the movement of the searching ship within a three dimensional model, usually cubic though there have been spherical implementations which were experimentations on various search patterns within a limited volume while trying to maintain a distance from the limits at velocity. Within this article I have described the numerical methodology and formula for performing symbolic movement within a two dimensional and three dimensional grid of infinity sans one grid points, (which means that no limit detection code has been included). We will use the "Galileian system of co-ordinates" to describe grid points along lines, squares, and cubes. Because we are to work in an almost-infinite model, we will call the "Center" of the model our point of reference. Though we will not encompass a limitation of visibility, we will restrict the number of grid points worked with to usually nine in the two dimensional models and usually 27 within the three dimensional models. One dimensional concepts will not be tolerated within this article. - - Two Dimensional movements within a grid: Let us suppose that you are standing at Galileian position 2, 2 in a grid of 3 by 3 points, (referred to as x position 2 and y position 2, or simply xpos 2 and ypos 2 from now on). You are standing at this position and wish to translate your position into another by applying movement towards another point. (Let's further assume that movement between points is illegal in this universe as that is another article). Before applying numerical formula to progress from point to point, let's lay down out simple two dimensional model and then apply relative values to them: 1,1 1,2 1,3 2,1 2,2 2,3 3,1 3,2 3,3 We consider ourself to be at xpos 2 and ypos 2. Now let's apply FidoNews 5-17 Page 5 25 Apr 1988 the relative numerical values to use to these points: -1,-1 -1,+0 -1,+1 +0,-1 +0,+0 +0,+1 +1,-1 +1,+0 +1,+1 If we wish to apply direction of travel, we would assign each grid point reference a number; perhaps like this: 1 2 3 -1,-1 -1,+0 -1,+1 4 +0,-1 +0,+0 +0,+1 6 +1,-1 +1,+0 +1,+1 7 8 9 To move towards direction 1, we take current xpos minus 1, the current ypos minus 1, and there we are. 2-1 = 1 and 2-1 = 1 so the final translation yields 1,1, where we wish to be. Another example might be to travel towards direction 7 where we take current xpos plus 1 and current ypos minus 1. 2+1 = 3 and 2-1 = 1 so the final translation offers 3,1. If no movement along a dimension is required, such as is moving towards direction 6, we take current xpos plus 0 and current ypos plus 1. Yield is 2+0 = 2 and 2+1 = 3 or 2,3. Simple enough; now let's apply "distance" to move using the same model: Let's move outside the model towards direction 6 for a distance of four. To do such, simply multiply the reference grid by four to yield the proper offsets to center: At direction 6, 0 times 4 = 0 and 1 times four = 4. Apply the current xpos of 2+4x0 = 2 and current ypos of 2+4*1 = 6, or a new grid reference of 2,6. We can make verification by expanding out the model if you wish: 1,1 1,2 1,3 1,4 1,5 1,6 2,1 2,2 2,3 2,4 2,5 2,6 3,1 3,2 3,3 3,4 3,5 3,6 From 2,2 towards direction 6 for 4 points you get 2,6. A simple way, then, to represent such movement within a game is to put your reference grid into an array: dim reference%(9) for rloop% = 1 to 9 read reference%(rloop%) next rloop% data -1,-1,-1,0,-1,1 data 0,-1, 0,0, 0,1 data 1,-1, 1,0, 1,1 FidoNews 5-17 Page 6 25 Apr 1988 To move from current xpos, ypos to new xpos, ypos, for a number of grid points "distance" in direction "direction" would then be: xpos = xpos + (reference%(((direction - 1) * 2) + 1) * distance) ypos = ypos + (reference%(((direction - 1) * 2) + 2) * distance) Note that by performing the above formula from a near-edge grid point, you may leave the model by allowing new xpos and ypos to go negative or exceed the desired limits if any. For the non-programmers among FidoNet; direction is decremented and then multiplied by two. The result is incremented and the result is used to index into the array to acquire the reference information. That value is multiplied by the distance which is then added to the current xpos. The calculation of the ypos is much the same yet two is added to the index when acquiring the reference value from the array. A current xpos of 2 and ypos of 2, towards direction 6 for a distance of four could then be calculated as: direction - 1 = 5 5 * 2 = 10 10 + 1 = 11 reference%(11) = 0 0 * distance = 0 xpos + 0 = 2 or a new xpos of 2 direction - 1 = 5 5 * 2 = 10 10 + 2 = 12 reference%(12) = 1 1 * distance = 4 ypos + 4 = 6 or a new ypos of 6 - - Three dimensional movements within a cube: Visualization of the reference grid created for three dimensional movements is a little more complicated so the models drawn here are done in a three-tiered or three-level method. There will, however, be an additional convention used and that is ypos to represent the additional dimension. To represent movement from enter out to all other points will require 81 reference points where "Center" is considered to be point 2,2,2 using Galileian system of co-ordinates: 1,1,1 1,2,1 1,3,1 2,1,1 2,2,1 2,3,1 3,1,1 3,2,1 3,3,1 FidoNews 5-17 Page 7 25 Apr 1988 1,1,2 1,2,2 1,3,2 2,1,2 2,2,2 2,3,2 3,1,2 3,2,2 3,3,2 1,1,3 1,2,3 1,3,3 2,1,3 2,2,3 2,3,3 3,1,3 3,2,3 3,3,3 Again, lets apply numeric values to each grid point so that a since of direction may be applied when moving from 2,2,2 to all other points: 1 2 3 1,1,1 1,2,1 1,3,1 4 2,1,1 2,2,1 2,3,1 6 3,1,1 3,2,1 3,3,1 7 8 9 10 11 12 1,1,2 1,2,2 1,3,2 13 2,1,2 2,2,2 2,3,2 15 3,1,2 3,2,2 3,3,2 16 17 18 19 20 21 1,1,3 1,2,3 1,3,3 22 2,1,3 2,2,3 2,3,3 24 3,1,3 3,2,3 3,3,3 25 26 27 To apply reference points for this model, let's change the rules just a little. Rather than applying -1, +1, and 0 to the model, lets simply apply the symbols - + and o respectively: (Well it saves paper...): +-- +o- ++- o-- oo- o+- --- -o- -+- +-o +oo ++o o-o ooo o+o --o -oo -+o +-+ +o+ +++ o-+ oo+ o++ --+ -o+ -++ As with the two dimensional model, practical applications in a program would look something like this: dim reference%(81) for rloop% = 1 to 81 read reference%(rloop%) next rloop% data 1,-1,-1, 1,0,-1, 1,1,-1 data 0,-1,-1, 0,0,-1, 0,1,-1 FidoNews 5-17 Page 8 25 Apr 1988 data -1,-1,-1, -1,0,-1, -1,1,-1 data 1,-1,0, 1,0,0, 1,1,0 data 0,-1,0, 0,0,0, 0,1,0 data -1,-1,0, -1,0,0, -1,1,0 data 1,-1,1, 1,0,1, 1,1,1 data 0,-1,1, 0,0,1, 0,1,1 data -1,-1,1, -1,0,1, -1,1,1 By progressing the above formula used to move from center to another grid point, we can assume the following: xpos = xpos + (reference%(((direction - 1) * 3) + 1) * distance) ypos = ypos + (reference%(((direction - 1) * 3) + 2) * distance) zpos = zpos + (reference%(((direction - 1) * 3) + 3) * distance) (Notice that this time, the number of the multiplier has been changed from 2 to 3 to represent the number of dimensions). Though a good cube can not be drawn here with all of the grid points referenced, we can still apply the formula. Assume a current xpos of 2, ypos of 2, and zpos of 2. Further assume a direction of 22 for a simple distance of one, (make a reference to the above model to see that the result should equal 2,1,3). Here we will be moving in two directions within a three dimensional grid matrix. direction - 1 = 21 21 * 3 = 63 63 + 1 = 64 reference%(64) = 0 0 * distance = 0 xpos + 0 = 2 or a new xpos of 2 direction - 1 = 21 21 * 3 = 63 63 + 2 = 65 reference%(65) = -1 -1 * distance = -1 ypos + -1 = 1 or a new ypos of 1 direction - 1 = 21 21 * 3 = 63 63 + 3 = 66 reference%(66) = 1 1 * distance = 1 zpos + 1 = 3 or a new zpos of 3 By "stacking" dimensional reference offsets in this way, we may acquire simple movements among any number of dimensions. I would invite a fourth dimensional progression on this theme to be documented and posted to FidoNews by the readers interested FidoNews 5-17 Page 9 25 Apr 1988 to see if an elegant solution can be developed to create the array. Anyone interested might look into providing a matrix rather than an array. - - A drawing using "Prodesign (c)" is available upon request which shows a cube with alphabetical references for the grid points and the three-dimensional reference values neatly plotted out. You may FileRequest the drawing CUBE.PD1 from Astro-Net, (103/503), (714)-662-2294, if you have Prodesign (c). If you would like a file containing plotter commands which can be dumped to a plotter, send network mail to 103/503.3 Fredric Rice describing the plotter you have available and I will put it into the format you require in a file name WHICH YOU MUST CHOOSE. It will be made FileRequestable within a week of your request to you will need to call back one week later. If you wish, you may request a graphics printer format as well though the resolution will obviously be degraded. Fredric L. Rice (15/Apr/88) FidoNet (103/503.3) ----------------------------------------------------------------- FidoNews 5-17 Page 10 25 Apr 1988 ================================================================= NOTICES ================================================================= The Interrupt Stack 16 May 1988 Digital Equipment Corporations Users Society Spring Symposium. Will be held May 16-May 20 in Cincinnati, OH. 25 Jun 1988 EuroCon II starts in Tiel, Holland. Sponsored by the Dutch Hobby Computer Club. Will run for 2 days. Contact Hans Lichthelm at 2:2/999 for information. 16 Jul 1988 A new areacode, 508, will form in eastern Massachusetts and will be effective on this date. The new area code will be formed from the current areacode 617. Greater Boston will remain areacode 617 while the rest of eastern Massachusetts will form the new areacode 508. 25 Aug 1988 Start of the Fifth International FidoNet Conference, to be held at the Drawbridge Inn in Cincinnati, OH. Contact Tim Sullivan at 108/62 for more information. This is FidoNet's big annual get-together, and is your chance to meet all the people you've been talking with all this time. We're hoping to see you there! 24 Aug 1989 Voyager 2 passes Neptune. If you have something which you would like to see on this calendar, please send a message to FidoNet node 1:1/1. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Latest Software Versions BBS Systems Node List Other & Mailers Version Utilities Version Utilities Version Dutchie 2.81* EditNL 3.3 ARC 5.21 Fido 12g* MakeNL 2.03 ARCmail 1.1 Opus 1.03b Prune 1.40 ConfMail 3.31 SEAdog 4.10 XlatList 2.86* EchoMail 1.31 TBBS 2.0M MGM 1.1 BinkleyTerm 1.40* QuickBBS 2.00* * Recently changed Utility authors: Please help keep this list up to date by FidoNews 5-17 Page 11 25 Apr 1988 reporting new versions to 1:1/1. It is not our intent to list all utilities here, only those which verge on necessity. ----------------------------------------------------------------- FidoNews 5-17 Page 12 25 Apr 1988 ================================================================= COMMITTEE REPORTS ================================================================= I.E.E.E. L.I. BBS 1:107/211 New Discounts for IFNA Members The following two items are available to registered members of IFNA (or the IEEE) at substantial discounts: 1. The Touchbase Systems WorldPort 2400 Portable Modem This modem comes with both an AC adapter and a 9-volt battery which will power it for approximately six hours. Roughly the size of a package of cigarettes, this engineering marvel supports the extended Hayes AT command set and is compatible with Bell 103/212A and CCITT V.21/V.22/V.22bis. It has a built in speaker, four call monitoring LEDs, special acoustic coupler adapter cable, 25-pin female DB-25 connector, and a standard RJ-11C modular connector telephone line interface. It has substituted for a Hayes 2400 on this BBS with no changes or problems. Bundled in this offer is CARBON COPY PLUS version 4.0 which provides both a terminal emulator program and a Remote PC Operation capabilty in the same package. GREAT for lap-tops! List price for this modem is $395 (CARBON COPY lists for $195 alone). Both are available to IFNA members for $216 plus any applicable taxes and shipping charge. 2. The CAT Image Scanner Model SI This scanner package was a hit at the recent Computer Graphics Show in New York City. It attaches to your printer and is driven by the print mechanism to capture 50 to 300 dpi images in either Line Art or Half-tone modes. Scanned images can be cropped, scaled, printed, or combined to make posters, T-shirts, or viewgraphs. Captured images can be converted into PCX, TIFF or PFF print formats for use by various graphic packages or you can do your own desktop publishing with any word processor package. Listing for $195, this item is available to IFNA members for $126, plus shipping/taxes. Printers supported: Panasonic KX-P1080, 1091, 1092 Epson MX 80/100, RX 80/100, JX 80, FX 80/100, FX 85/182 FX 86/286, Fx 86e/286e, EX 800/100, LQ 800/1000 For more information on these items see pages 52 and 317 of the April 26, 1988 edition of PC magazine (the one that reviews 9600 baud modems) or send a msg with your voice phone number and address to 1:107/211. Supplies are limited, so don't delay! ----------------------------------------------------------------- FidoNews 5-17 Page 13 25 Apr 1988 THE TREASURER'S REPORT Part II? -------------------------------- A few of you may recognize my name, with its trailing initials, as that of the treasurer of International Fidonet Association, Inc. (IFNA), but today I write as Leonard Mednick, JAS (Just Another Sysop)! Right now I'm reminded of an experience I had when I was in the third grade of elementary school. THUMP! THUMP! THUMP! Things were moving just a tad too slowly for me that day. The teacher, whom I dearly adored, just wasn't reaching me at the moment so I did the most logical thing I could think of, and that was to bang my head against my desk. THUMP! THUMP! THUMP! THUMP! THUMP! THUMP! "Leonard," my beloved teacher announced, "Did you ever notice that the emptiest heads make the loudest noise?" Everyone in class focused on me. There were giggles and there was laughter. How I loathed my school chums. How I disliked my former academic paramour for heaping me with this shame and ridicule. And how I hated myself, for getting trapped with all this contempt. What a lesson I learned from school that day. "Empty heads make the loudest noise!" And its corollary, "Engage brain before putting mouth in gear!" ELECTRON THUMPING Which brings me to the point of this missive. There's been a lot of ELECTRON THUMPING, lately and it doesn't sound like the result of brain engagements. OK. You guys wanted an accounting. And an accounting you got in the form of a SUMMARY of the accounts for the year ending 12/31/87. Just like every other entity that reports to its members, stockholders, or THE IRS. How do you expect IFNA or any other company, etc. to report to EACH of its constituents? Do you expect a copy of the check register, the general ledger, and all the other books and workpapers to be UPLOADED to each of you? Or even published in the FIDONEWS? Be reasonable. The books are available for inspection AS THEY ALWAYS HAVE BEEN! Now I really love Hawaii, where I've lived and raised a family for the last 27 years. Did you think that I was going to change my residence to St. Louis or Tennessee while I was treasurer just so someone could stroll over to my office one day to inspect those books and papers? What about the next treasurer. If he or she lives in California, is that going to be any more convenient to our members in St. Louis or in Tennessee (or even Holland?) I think not. FidoNews 5-17 Page 14 25 Apr 1988 TWO REASONABLE SOLUTIONS A moment ago I asked you to be reasonable. This is what I mean by "reasonable." First, be aware that Honolulu is the eleventh largest city in the U. S. We have offices here that house each of the "Big Eight" accounting firms. Additionally, there are about 2,200 CPA's actively making a living performing accounting services for others. If you can't, or won't make the trip here to inspect IFNA's books, why not ask YOUR ACCOUNTANT to recommend one of OUR LOCAL ACCOUNTANTS to inspect the books for you. Give him/her specific instructions how you would like the accounting to look like when they are completed as there is NO ONE WAY TO ACCOUNT for transactions irrespective of what you may think or have been led to believe. A second solution would be to ASK to have a copy of ALL THE RECORDS in the treasurer's possession sent to you or a nominee of your choice. Be prepared to pay for the reproduction costs of these records. (You really don't expect IFNA to shoulder this expense for EVERY MEMBER that does not want or cannot inspect the books at the treasure's domicile, do you?) In any case, the two solutions offered are a heck of a lot cheaper than any court room engagement. And more substantial than the threats, intimidation, harassment, inuendoes, slurs, and other slings and arrows our, make that your, directors and officers had to endure. And your directors and officers are all UNPAID VOLUNTEERS, to boot! THUMPERS' ACCOMPLISHMENTS As a matter of fact, in many cases your officers and directors weren't ever the THUMPERS' directors. MANY OF THE LOUDEST THUMPERS ARE NOT MEMBERS OF IFNA. But incredibly they want an accounting just the same! WANNA TALK ABOUT YOUR BASIC CHUTZPAH! So what have these THUMPERS accomplished. Let me begin . . . First, they burned out many sysops who tried to put together an organization whose sole purpose was to BETTER THE POLITICAL, ECONOMIC, TECHNICAL, AND SOCIAL ENVIRONMENT OF SYSOPING! They sapped the vitality out of those sysops. They continue to leech this energy of the remaining board and then complain that IFNA has no direction, no purpose, no results. My fellow sysops, HOW IN HELL do you expect your board to function when ELECTRONIC WOLVES are sniping at your flanks, MERCILESSLY, while at every turn our fellow directors are being devoured! Is my metaphor to strong? Too graphic? I think not! How else to explain the loss of the wonderful guidance and services of outstanding human beings and humanitarians like Ben Baker, Thom Henderson, and Bob Hartman to name but three. There are others, too many for me to remember at 2:30 in the A.M. as I am writing this. My apologies for not mentioning their names. In their hearts and OUR MINDS we know who they are. FidoNews 5-17 Page 15 25 Apr 1988 THUMPERS OF THE WORLD -- WHERE ARE YOU? Did any of these THUMPERS volunteer to DONATE THEIR SERVICES to help IFNA go "in the right direction?" I can assure you that all they had to do was ask and our board would have showered them with appreciation . . . and work! I know, because even from someplace AS FAR OFF AS IN HAWAII, I got the thankless job of whipping your books into a semblance of order so that you could have the ACCOUNTING WE WERE ALL ENTITLED TO! No one of us is looking for THANKS. But for CHRISSAKES, no one of us was looking to be dumped upon, either! Have a little humanity in your soul. HOORAY FOR FIDOCON88 By the way, if neither of the solutions I've mentioned earlier works for you, here's a third. YOUR PRECIOUS BOOKS with their jots and tittles of IMPORTANT INFORMATION, upon which THE FUTURE OF ALL MANKIND DEPENDS will be at the FIDOCON88, if you can wait that long. Would it kill the few BIG THUMPERS among you to wait until then? COME BACK GUYS! PLLLEEEASE! (we'll all be your best friends for life) And while we're waiting, would it be too much for us to ask, beseech, and beg Ben, Thom, Bob, and the others to reconsider and please COME BACK! IFNA NEEDS YOU! So do we all, NEED YOU, NOW! Only when we all PULL TOGETHER, will we solve the real problems of our BBS community: Integrated Alternate Nets, Government Incursions, Electronic Law and Order, and most important, WHERE HAS ALL THE FUN GONE! ----------------------------------------------------------------- FidoNews 5-17 Page 16 25 Apr 1988 OFFICERS OF THE INTERNATIONAL FIDONET ASSOCIATION Ken Kaplan 100/22 Chairman of the Board Don Daniels 107/210 President Mark Grennan 147/1 Vice President Dave Dodell 114/15 Vice President - Technical Coordinator Tom Marshall 107/524 Secretary Leonard Mednick 12/1 Treasurer IFNA BOARD OF DIRECTORS DIVISION AT-LARGE 10 Steve Jordan 102/2871 Don Daniels 107/210 11 Bill Allbritten 11/301 Hal DuPrie 101/106 12 Leonard Mednick 12/1 Mark Grennan 147/1 13 Rick Siegel 107/27 Brad Hicks 100/523 14 Ken Kaplan 100/22 Ted Polczyinski 154/5 15 Jim Cannell 128/13 Kurt Reisler 109/74 16 Vince Perriello 141/491 Robert Rudolph 261/628 17 Rob Barker 138/34 Greg Small 148/122 18 Chris Baker 135/14 Bob Swift 140/24 19 Vernon Six 19/0 Larry Wall 15/18 2 Henk Wevers 2:500/1 Gee Wong 107/312 ----------------------------------------------------------------- FidoNews 5-17 Page 17 25 Apr 1988 __ The World's First / \ BBS Network /|oo \ * FidoNet * (_| /_) _`@/_ \ _ | | \ \\ | (*) | \ )) ______ |__U__| / \// / Fido \ _//|| _\ / (________) (_/(_|(____/ (tm) Membership for the International FidoNet Association Membership in IFNA is open to any individual or organization that pays a specified annual membership fee. IFNA serves the international FidoNet-compatible electronic mail community to increase worldwide communications. Member Name _______________________________ Date _______________ Address _________________________________________________________ City ____________________________________________________________ State ________________________________ Zip _____________________ Country _________________________________________________________ Home Phone (Voice) ______________________________________________ Work Phone (Voice) ______________________________________________ Zone:Net/Node Number ____________________________________________ BBS Name ________________________________________________________ BBS Phone Number ________________________________________________ Baud Rates Supported ____________________________________________ Board Restrictions ______________________________________________ Your Special Interests __________________________________________ _________________________________________________________________ _________________________________________________________________ In what areas would you be willing to help in FidoNet? __________ _________________________________________________________________ _________________________________________________________________ Send this membership form and a check or money order for $25 in US Funds to: International FidoNet Association c/o Leonard Mednick, MBA, CPA 700 Bishop Street, #1014 Honolulu, Hawaii 96813-4112 USA Thank you for your membership! Your participation will help to insure the future of FidoNet. Please NOTE that IFNA is a general not-for-profit organization and Articles of Association and By-Laws were adopted by the membership in January 1987. The first elected Board of Directors was filled in August 1987. The IFNA Echomail Conference has been established on FidoNet to assist the Board. We welcome your input to this Conference. ----------------------------------------------------------------- FidoNews 5-17 Page 18 25 Apr 1988 INTERNATIONAL FIDONET ASSOCIATION ORDER FORM Publications The IFNA publications can be obtained by downloading from Fido 1:1/10 or other FidoNet compatible systems, or by purchasing them directly from IFNA. We ask that all our IFNA Committee Chairmen provide us with the latest versions of each publication, but we can make no written guarantees. Hardcopy prices as of October 1, 1986 IFNA Fido BBS listing $15.00 _____ IFNA Administrative Policy DOCs $10.00 _____ IFNA FidoNet Standards Committee DOCs $10.00 _____ SUBTOTAL _____ IFNA Member ONLY Special Offers System Enhancement Associates SEAdog $60.00 _____ SEAdog price as of March 1, 1987 ONLY 1 copy SEAdog per IFNA Member Fido Software's Fido/FidoNet $100.00 _____ Fido/FidoNet price as of November 1, 1987 ONLY 1 copy Fido/FidoNet per IFNA Member International orders include $10.00 for surface shipping or $20.00 for air shipping _____ SUBTOTAL _____ HI. Residents add 4.0 % Sales tax _____ TOTAL _____ SEND CHECK OR MONEY ORDER IN US FUNDS: International FidoNet Association c/o Leonard Mednick, MBA, CPA 700 Bishop Street, #1014 Honolulu, HI. 96813-4112 USA Name________________________________ Zone:Net/Node____:____/____ Company_____________________________ Address_____________________________ City____________________ State____________ Zip_____ Voice Phone_________________________ Signature___________________________ -----------------------------------------------------------------