Volume 7, Number 27 2 July 1990 +---------------------------------------------------------------+ | _ | | / \ | | /|oo \ | | - FidoNews - (_| /_) | | _`@/_ \ _ | | FidoNet (r) | | \ \\ | | International BBS Network | (*) | \ )) | | Newsletter ______ |__U__| / \// | | / FIDO \ _//|| _\ / | | (________) (_/(_|(____/ | | (jm) | +---------------------------------------------------------------+ Editor in Chief: Vince Perriello Editors Emeritii: Thom Henderson, Dale Lovell Chief Procrastinator Emeritus: Tom Jennings Copyright 1990, Fido Software. All rights reserved. Duplication and/or distribution permitted for noncommercial purposes only. For use in other circumstances, please contact Fido Software. FidoNews is published weekly by the System Operators of the FidoNet (r) International BBS Network. It is a compilation of individual articles contributed by their authors or authorized agents of the authors. The contribution of articles to this compilation does not diminish the rights of the authors. You are encouraged to submit articles for publication in FidoNews. Article submission standards are contained in the file ARTSPEC.DOC, available from node 1:1/1. 1:1/1 is a Continuous Mail system, available for network mail 24 hours a day. Fido and FidoNet are registered trademarks of Tom Jennings of Fido Software, Box 77731, San Francisco CA 94107, USA and are used with permission. Opinions expressed in FidoNews articles are those of the authors and are not necessarily those of the Editor or of Fido Software. Most articles are unsolicited. Our policy is to publish every responsible submission received. Table of Contents 1. ARTICLES ................................................. 1 FidoCon '90 Update: ...................................... 1 Breaking the Cycle of Child Sexual Abuse ................. 3 Broken Links ............................................. 6 New Echos ................................................ 9 Region 11 RC Election .................................... 10 Labor and Union News Conference .......................... 13 MLM (Multi-Level Marketing) Echo Availability ............ 15 Incest Survivors Newsletter .............................. 17 Vietnam Veterans' Valhalla BBS is Back! .................. 19 NEW! FidoCon '90 Registration Form ....................... 22 And more! FidoNews 7-27 Page 1 2 Jul 1990 ================================================================= ARTICLES ================================================================= FidoCon '90 Update (7/1): If you plan on attending and staying for meals or at the hotel, we MUST know whether you're coming by July 1st (that's THIS WEEK), as that is our cut-off date for notifying the hotel of our 'final' numbers. If you register after that, we cannot guarantee you a room or a meal ticket. If necessary, send crashmail to 1:1/90@FidoNet. Chris Irwin has announced a gigantic give-away at FidoCon! One of the prizes at the conference will be a D'Bridge license for each member of the lucky winner's net! Rumor has it that not only US Robotics will be participating, but modem manufacturers Telebit, Unicom, and MicroCom may also be there! Stay tuned for further details. Zone 1 Coordinator George Peace will be attending and he's invited the other amateur networks to participate in a "network summit". Details will follow as they become available. One of the things that's truly amazing about this conference is the fact that people are coming all the way from Europe, Canada, and Australia just to attend. This sort of thing makes all the work and effort putting on the conference worthwhile. Chris Bahr of PC-MAGnet will be making an appearance. We are in the process of mailing out the Conference packets to all registered attendees. It contains directions to the hotel, a map of the area, and a tenative seminar schedule. For our adventurous attendees, we have added an optional trip to Six Flag's Great Adventure theme park in Jackson, NJ for $30/person. And now for the BIG announcement! For a grand prize, we will be giving away a "Sysop's Dream" computer system complete with a multi- line Continuous mail TBBS/TIMS bbs package (courtesy of eSoft). [Those who registered before 5/1 will be given 3 changes in the drawings, while those registering before 6/1 will be given 2. If you register before July 2nd, publication date of this FidoNews, you can also participate in our prize drawings.] Please use the updated registration form you'll find in this issue of Fidonews. It's headed FIDOCON '90 REGISTRATION FORM. Also, please note that the prices listed only apply to those who pre-register using the appropriate form. We regret a typo in last week's form, the spousal plan is $620, not $670. FidoNews 7-27 Page 2 2 Jul 1990 We hope to see you there! Bill VanGlahn, FidoCon '90 committee chairman, 1:1/90 1:107/557 ----------------------------------------------------------------- FidoNews 7-27 Page 3 2 Jul 1990 Written by: Cathrine J. Foote Founder, Brake the Cycle San Jose, California Input By: John Casselli Managing Editor, SIPIS Newsletter Assistant Sysop Vietnam Veterans Valhalla BBS 1:143/27 300/1200/9600 HST (408) 298-2740 Every year thousands of children are sexually abused by adults. I want to do something about it. This summer, I am again participating in BRAKE THE CYCLE, a bike ride from San Jose, California to Washington D.C. to raise support and funds for local and national treatment and training agencies that work with these abused children and their families. We are calling the ride "Brake the Cycle", to illustrate our cause: breaking the cycle of child sexual abuse. Two years ago, "Brake the Cycle" 1988 raised over $30,000.00 for this cause. We also delivered a statement signed by 15,000 people such as yourself to our Representatives in Washington D.C. with the message that our communities want child abuse stopped. "Brake the Cycle" 1990 hopes to do the same, and with your help we can. If you would like to be a partner in my effort to take positive steps towards breaking the cycle of child sexual abuse, there are several ways you can participate. First, sign the "Statement of Concern" that we are taking to Washington D.C. Second, make a pledge to the ride itself. Donations are tax deductible, and 100% of the funds go directly to local and national treatment agencies. Third, be a direct contributor to the ride expenses. The other riders and I are donating our time, energy and personal funds to this project, and it would be a great benefit to have help with the expenses. These contributions also are tax deductible. After you have had time to consider this opportunity, please fill out the form and return it to me at the address provided. Sincerely, /s/ Cathrine J. Foote Break the Cycle Founder NOTE: The "Statement of Concern" mentioned in Cathrine's letter is printed in this article, please make copies and pass them around, and it is available by FREQ from the Vietnam Veterans Valhalla, 1:143/27, HST 14.4 (408) 298-2740. Use the filename: BRAKE.FRM for the request. FidoNews 7-27 Page 4 2 Jul 1990 ================================================================= BRAKE THE CYCLE National Ride to Stop Child Sexual Abuse Project of Childsong Inc. ================================================================= STATEMENT OF CONCERN Yes, I want to help break the cycle of child sexual abuse. Every family and every community needs to be aware of this problem and take steps to prevent it. Studies show that reports of child abuse in our county are increasing. One girl in four and one boy in seven in the United States will be molested before his or her 18th birthday. Proper treatment needs to be made available to abused children and their families. Public awareness can prevent this crime from being committed. I gladly add my name to this statement of concern urging the institution and people of the United States to provide these funds and the human resources necessary to stop child sexual abuse. NAME (Please Print) ADDRESS SIGNATURE ___________________________________________________________________ | | ____________________|_____________________________|________________ | | ____________________|_____________________________|________________ | | ____________________|_____________________________|________________ | | ____________________|_____________________________|________________ | | ____________________|_____________________________|________________ | | ____________________|_____________________________|________________ | | ____________________|_____________________________|________________ | | ____________________|_____________________________|________________ | | ____________________|_____________________________|________________ | | ____________________|_____________________________|________________ | | ____________________|_____________________________|________________ | | ____________________|_____________________________|________________ FidoNews 7-27 Page 5 2 Jul 1990 Please return this Statement of Concern To: Brake the Cycle 1879 Ellen Avenue San Jose, California 95125 VVV-6/29/90 ----------------------------------------------------------------- FidoNews 7-27 Page 6 2 Jul 1990 Is our Echo Mail Broken? And How long has it been this way? I think it almost goes with out saying that over 3/4 of the Network is bonded together by echos. So when there is a problem it is rather upsetting. After a while everybody starts to notice and wants to fix it or to see it fixed. *If* possible. This is NOT a political article. I do thouth like voting and believe it ought to be mandantory that Coordinators periodocally allow voting for the chair they hold. Not just when it suits thier fancy, but yearly. I also firmly believe there should be no Gods as System Operators OR Coordinators. And Thou being a coordinator be a thankless job when done right they have my extreme thanks. In fact when I think of it -- the Cooperative state - it is truely amazing. But the other side of the coin is -- that when done irresponsibly it can be a mess which almost seems to strecth to infinity. Who do i contact? Just how persistant should I get? What does it mean when I get no responces? What can i do? Who Cares? I even, for awhile, thought about the worst ..Mebbe I will get my link cut for even talking about it. Etc... I live in Region 18. I am very fortunate because I have two Echo sources. So if something is broke and i get no responce about getting it fixed, I can go get it from an alternative source in another Region. There are many here thou that are not as fortunate. This problem has been going on since at least a couple of years ago and I do wonder how widespread it is. I was told two years ago the DND echo was booming in Region 13 yet not a message ever appeared in Region 18. That started me looking! Recently I switched feeds on the IFNA conference (one i wanted *before* the vote took place). it went immediately from 0 messages to as many as 20 messages a week. It was a bit late for getting involved so i turned it off. Another was RC_MODELS, The first day I changed feeds i recieved 1 message (from reading it I could tell it was a responce to another in the echo). Yet in Region 18 not a message filtered in. A Local SysOp I supply mail with wanted STARGAZE. Ok, I turn it on from my Region 18 source - weeks go by and not a single message. The SysOp asks me "what is going on, I read in the ELIST that traffic should be 10 messages a week minimum". I tell him post a "test" message. He posts, meanwhile the user who wanted it calls the Moderators board. The test message is there and even responces yet none make it back to Region 18!? An update is that the new feed has more messages but when the User calls the Moderators Board There is even MORE messages there and FidoNews 7-27 Page 7 2 Jul 1990 some of them Unseen. Why are echos like CAD-CAM called CAD_CAM in some Areas and Regions? We have the CHESS Echo Moderator right outside of our local calling area. My NEC tells me a very unusual story about the Echo Telemate which was not linked. Lately I have heard of a SysOp calling asking if he could read on the Moderators board. The SysOp then asked if he could pick up directly from the Moderator's System. They said messages are NOT making it to thier Region. Are we heading Back to "the Old Days" - Remember when folks called the Moderator and Picked up the Echo. Can YOU afford it! Why do we bother to have a Back- Bone if it isn't going to work? This has been plauging me. What can *I* do about it?? I thought of writing the EC ..mebbe the ZC ...is there any guarentees it will be fixed ...or not keep happening again and again. How many other places does this happen and no one talks about it? How many Echos are broke?? Are links that sensitive? Is some one Lying? Is the Mail being Censored? I pick up LD and recently when my source asked folks who are picking up there for a donation, most of us chipped in a few bucks. Thou WE call Ld to pick up the echos... Hell, I even send some in! It bothers me that my Source does not respond to my NetMail. It bothers me even more that it happens to more than one echo. What causes this and what can be done about it? After all this Network is part of all of us. It is OUR Network(s). Aint see no reason than belonging other than to "share" the Mail! I know somebody is going to scream "We need more rules.." Any one with the sence of at least a rusty nail will know that this is obviously a bunch of %^&# and Rules and Regulations are NOT the answer! What is happening is the large echos which are very popular are linked but the small specialty echos are sorta haphazardly put together ...after all less SysOps would notice it and those that do can be easily ignored. ..Well think about it ...mebbe they ALL are Broken? how can we tell? I have seen local echos go straight to hell when echo distribution is done in a irresponsible manner. Just because someone has an Echo listed in thier Areas.BBS doesn't mean they are linked ..Even If they do have other Net/Nodes listed!! I had the pleasure of my Net Coordinator cutting me off with out even a word. There were actually two local Echos. Who's to say this hasn't happened somewhere on a Regional Level. Could it be that someone just cut a link and forgot about it. All this really didnt matter when echomail was first transmitted. But we do exspect everyone upstream to be honest about the links ...right? Infact we depend on the integerity of the BackBone Echo Mail Systems and our fellow NetWork members. Mebbe it hasnt been working for a long time. Our Software can not tell if upstream is together! Take one echo FidoNews 7-27 Page 8 2 Jul 1990 for instance. Notes could be compared on the path and seenbys from different parts of the country but that is not to guarentee that there are at least a dozen broken links somewhere inbetween. Anybody got any ideas on a Utility which can help out? Our software is not really designed that way. I was talking to a friend in GT Net. Since Gt's Software is so much different things are done differently. He told me he can send sort of test message that reports routing status back to him. It is part of the EchoMail Software. ..Gawd, I wish I was a Software writer... This problem is part ALL of our problem! After all, What fun is it belonging to a NetWork who boasts sharing Free Information that doesn't get sent to active participants. Are we sewing the mouth shut on our guest speakers? by Kenneth "Kevin" Snively 1:116/24 EET BBS 1:116/29 the Dawg Byte 1:116/28 The Nashville HUB System ----------------------------------------------------------------- FidoNews 7-27 Page 9 2 Jul 1990 John Bierrie Fido 1:322/235 NEW ECHOS I thought I would take this oportunity to anounce that there are two new echos available which might be of interest to some of you. -=R&R=- The R&R Echo is an offshoot from the dBase and Clipper echos, where discussions concering the use of "Report Writer" software for dBase was building. The R&R echo is dedicated to discussing the use and implimentation of report writing software used by many dBase/Foxbase/DBXL, etc., programmers. This covers both commercial and shareware versions and can be of immence help to those using these programs. The echo is open to any individual with interest in this type of software. Symbolic Name (TAG) - R&R -=RA_UTIL=- The RA_UTIL Echo is dedicated to discussions concerning the many "external" programs being written for the Remote Access BBS software package. The participants include many of the authors of such programs and the discussions range from "problem solving" to what is coming in the future. The echo is open to anyone who has interest in the external programs written for Remote Access and "authors" wishing to discuss and support their programs. Symbolic Name (TAG) - RA_UTIL ----------------------------------------------------------------- FidoNews 7-27 Page 10 2 Jul 1990 Donn Bly (1:236/7) Region 11 RC Election Coordinator Region 11 has elected a new RC. A few weeks ago we posted the election rules here, and now we are posting the final results. Region 11 RC Election Report ---------------------------- The following is the final tabulation of all votes received by me as of the close of the polls on June 30, 1990 at 18:00 EST. To the best of my knowledge these results are accurate and complete. If there is a question about the validity of vote, please get in touch with me IMMEDIATELY via netmail or voice call. My home voice number is (219) 925-3474. If you voted, and your password is not listed under the candidate for which you voted, or your node number is not listed below, please contact me IMMEDIATELY. So that I did not have to return as many ballots, I relaxed the rules slightly -- the outcome of the election is not effected. I decided to allow for codewords up to 9 characters instead of 8, and I allowed non-alphanumeric characters as well as alphanumeric. I also received a request to allow both upper and lower case, so when I rewrote the software for the non- alphanumerics I made allowances for that too. As the documentation below shows, the winner of the RC11 Election is Mark Lynch. The first salvo of voting achieved the following results: Candidates Number Of Votes -------------------------- --------------- Mark Lynch 58 (39.5%) George Kasica 27 (18.4%) Ed Almasy 25 (17.0%) Bill Huther 23 (15.6%) Martin Essenburg 14 ( 9.5%) Because no one candidate received a majority of the votes, a run- off election was held between the two candidates that received the most votes. The full results of the run-off election are as follows: Candidates Number Of Votes -------------------------- --------------- Mark Lynch 109 (72.7%) George Kasica 41 (27.3%) FidoNews 7-27 Page 11 2 Jul 1990 Breakdown ----------------------------- Total Nodes Listed : 597 Total Eligible : 535 Total Ineligible : 62 Total Votes : 150 Return Percentage : 28.037% Password Breakdown ------------------ Candidate: Mark Lynch 232/16 2560399 2R1U1S2H 61889PS 8f7553g7 AFITVOTE alt1.wbm ASFASM asia Autohelm babygirl BASEBALL BATCOL93 BATRATE BAZOOMS BCRCVOTE BEARNEST Bigbird1 Blackdog blade549 BOOKSHOP BRILLO BUG4book Bullets butter03 CALLICO7 CHILLOUT creative D969GCCC DEVISTAR Devonian DOGPATCH dondixon EKU75DEB ELIFATAD Elizabeth Ellicott ESTRAVEN EYEDOC FREQALOT FUMAROLE GARGOYLE HandyMan hcunlerf Hegotit HICCUPS HOTROK HUM-BUG IDOC2020 J4E7G6W8 JITTERYS JOHNNY50 KA8NCR73 KIMETTE1 Lakers LAZY LOGITECH Lynch. MAD_MAN MAGICIAN MARGOMOT MARLBORO Marukka! MEGSHACA Milamber momfnord Mongodog MUYUZOTI MVS/XA mystical N4KHT0CW NavelLint NET154SUX OFFINPUT OICU8AQ2 OVERRIDE PDISE Peabody peb-bles PICAYUNE PILGRIMS QUESTION RF64GF61 RHYTHMNS RK110189 ROBERT ROBOSVII RONSONOL Sequence SKULDAZE spacerat speedrac T0Y0TAX4 T10002283 TA054SPU THORINJR THX-1138 Trillion V4O3T2E1 VACATION VOTENUM2 WD8CIV01 WILDC6T Wingding WITCHDOC WorkShop X666BGGV ytrewq ZBUZZARZ Candidate: George Kasica 12345678 154288HS 357OM(C) 386SXDTK 8743grdy 894-3234 Analysis anon5440 APPLE139 ARGHHHHH ARMYWORM ASTROFLY Atalanta bull1990 CELABRA8 DRACO DROWKCAB DUGY4321 FLOUNDER FLYGUY01 FREEDOM1 GOD_IS#1 HM31923 humulin ICECREAM MBCREATR Melnar Mystery57 N6bb2930 NC115743 NET154!! PASSVOTE Silicons SLYSTONE spegetti st154400 stanpaul TIMESTAT VOTEBOAT WXMANBBS ZOOBVOTE List of all Nodes Voting ------------------------ 11/13 11/15 11/16 11/301 11/868 108/10 108/90 108/111 108/145 108/165 108/255 108/260 108/350 110/10 110/69 110/101 110/120 110/150 110/201 110/240 110/270 110/300 110/310 110/350 110/370 110/380 110/430 115/101 115/333 115/400 115/439 115/473 115/529 115/639 115/634 115/729 115/743 115/769 115/777 115/876 115/934 115/989 120/80 120/102 120/113 120/125 120/151 120/183 FidoNews 7-27 Page 12 2 Jul 1990 120/193 120/207 120/209 120/210 120/216 121/4 139/600 139/630 154/8 154/40 154/69 154/77 154/111 154/288 154/300 154/350 154/400 154/414 154/777 154/970 157/511 157/538 157/531 157/533 159/400 159/725 159/850 226/20 226/40 226/50 226/60 226/70 226/100 226/110 226/120 226/170 226/180 226/210 226/220 226/230 226/240 226/260 226/280 226/290 226/310 226/320 226/330 226/340 226/370 226/500 226/510 226/520 227/2 228/3 228/14 228/17 228/21 228/26 228/30 228/31 228/32 230/5 231/20 231/50 231/60 231/190 231/210 231/230 231/270 231/290 232/6 232/9 232/16 232/18 232/20 233/12 233/16 233/22 233/69 234/1 234/10 234/14 234/16 234/20 234/100 236/10 236/12 236/13 237/85 237/500 237/506 237/507 237/523 238/101 238/102 2200/103 2210/518 2210/558 2210/633 2220/10 2220/20 2220/80 The full results of the first vote should be available from your NC (if you are in Region 11), and were posted in the REGION11 conference, just as these results will. As mentioned in the original rules that I posted, a period for commenting on the election process has been opened. I have not decided how long it will remain open as I have no idea how many people have suggestions and how long it will take. If you do have any comment, suggestions, etc. I will gratefully accept any netmail on the subject at 1:236/7. If there are enough people interested in it, an echo may be started to handle the traffic. I wish to take this opportunity to thank all who were involved in this process: Steve Bonine for commissioning it as one of his final acts as ZC, John Summers for being RC until he had to move out of the Region, Rick Moore for acting as interim RC until this vote was completed, the candidates who stepped forward and offered their services to an often-unthankful network, and George Peace, our ZC, who has said that he will accept the results of this election as final and appoint the winner to the RC11 position. Donn Bly (1:236/7) Ex-Region 11 RC Election Coordinator ----------------------------------------------------------------- FidoNews 7-27 Page 13 2 Jul 1990 The Labor and Union News Conference ----------------------------------- "The average weekly wage in 1979 was $189.32. In 1988, compensating for inflation, it was $168.10, a fall of 11.2 percent." -- Quote from journalist David Bacon I pulled that out of my quotes file because I thought it would be a good introduction to this article. It's a truly startling statistic because we all sadly know that grocery prices haven't dropped 11.2 percent after inflation! Over the same time period quoted above, we've seen a definite drop in union membership in this country. There are many reasons for this, the changing economy and labor force for one, but one of the biggest reasons has been the corporate offensive against organized labor launched in the Reagan years and now continuing under the Bush administration. We've seen company after company launch efforts to bust their unions and to shift health care costs onto workers causing many of the strikes that get reported in the corporate-owned mass media. While workers still have the right to strike, the companies now force strikes, like the current Greyhound strike that is going on now, in order to replace strikers with permanent replacement workers -- better known as scabs. Of course it's still illegal to fire striking workers, but it's not illegal to permanently replace strikers with scabs. Nice little catch-22 there, huh? And all this effects far more than unionized workers. It effects our entire economy and, in particular, all working people. In any given profession, unionized workers tend to be better paid than non-unionized workers. If the unions are suffering and are being forced to take wage and benefit cuts, then eventually all workers will be in the same boat. What's the above paragraphs leading up to? I'm glad you asked. I'd like to inform you of an echomail conference devoted to working-class issues. The conference focuses on labor and union news -- things you normally wouldn't hear about in our normal corporate-owned mass media. The daily newspaper always has a large "business" section devoted to that tiny percentage of people who own enough stock in a company to effect the company's operation, but it never has a "labor" section devoted to the vast majority of people in this country -- the working class. FidoNews 7-27 Page 14 2 Jul 1990 The conference's area name is, appropriately enough, LABOR_CONFERENCE, and it currently is not distributed on the echomail backbone. It has its own distribution system (if you could really call it a "system"). The conference's moderator is William Bowles at 1:107/607 and Bill can let you know where to find a link into the echo. The echo consists mainly of news items from various sources and has a little conversation. The news tends to be very interesting and informative and comes from such sources as union newsletters, and other labor-oriented writers. Hopefully we'll increase the conversation end of the echo with more links and with more participating systems. Solidarity forever and have a good day. Hope to see you in the LABOR_CONFERENCE echo! ----------------------------------------------------------------- FidoNews 7-27 Page 15 2 Jul 1990 Jack Decker 1:154/8 MLM (MULTI-LEVEL MARKETING) ECHO AVAILABILITY A few weeks ago I wrote up an article for FidoNews describing the MLM (Multi-Level Marketing) Echo. This conference has been picking up a bit lately, but I still occasionally hear from folks who are having difficulty finding links to it. An inspection of messages entered in the last week or so reveals the following net/nodes listed in the PATH lines: 102/2 102/803 103/501 124/3207 124/3220 124/4115 13/13 157/200 236/13 236/7 238/101 265/7 270/101 270/116 343/11 343/300 It's quite possible that more nodes may be carrying the conference, but no messages have been entered from those nodes so they do not appear in the PATH lines. The conference SHOULD be available from any backbone feed, since it is carried on the Eastern Star. If you absolutely cannot get a feed through your regional backbone node, you may wish to see if you can get a feed from one of the nodes listed above (but PLEASE check with your Regional Echomail Coordinator first, so that "dupe loops" can be avoided!). If you (or any of your users) are involved in Multi-Level Marketing, or if you have an interest in the topic, you are invited to link in. As far as I am aware, there are no links to nodes outside of Zone 1 at present, although I did receive one request from a sysop in Australia (Kurt Johannessen at 3:713/610) who wanted the echo via a HST feed. If anyone who has an HST (and who is familiar with the requirements for sending an echo to another Zone) can provide a feed, your help would be appreciated (please send netmail to Kurt directly). For those who missed the original announcement, I will just repeat a couple of paragraphs from it: We have started a new echo called MLM, the echo for those involved or interested in Multi-Level Marketing (sometimes also known as "network marketing"). For those of you who are not familiar with the phrase "Multi-Level Marketing", this is the method by which a large number of products and services are sold nowadays. Some of the better-known firms in this field are Amway (home care and other products), and A.J. Williams (insurance), but there are literally hundreds of firms that utilize this method of marketing their products. We expect that those who participate in the MLM echo will agree that Multi-Level Marketing is a valid and responsible method of marketing products. HOWEVER, we also recognize that there are irresponsible people who try to use MLM as a "cover" for illegal pyramid schemes, but that does not detract from the fact that MLM itself is a very valid method of selling products or services direct to the customer, that has been utilized for years. Those who disagree, or who feel that _all_ MLM activity FidoNews 7-27 Page 16 2 Jul 1990 is a scam of some type, should not be participating in this echo. Everyone else is welcome and if your are interested in the topic, please link in to the MLM conference! ----------------------------------------------------------------- FidoNews 7-27 Page 17 2 Jul 1990 Incest Survivors Newsletter By: John Casselli Managing Editor, SIPIS Newsletter Assistant Sysop Vietnam Veterans Valhalla BBS 1:143/27 300/1200/9600 HST (408) 298-2740 I am writing to announce a couple of important events which I am quite proud of. As a member of Parents United, Inc. (PU), and AMACU (Adults Molested as Children, Inc), a component of PU, in San Jose, California, I have become quite involved in trying to break the cycle of child sexual abuse in this country. The statistics are astounding. This disease is in a rampage and has struck nearly every, if not all, families in this country. I am convinced that public awareness - education - is the key to breaking this cycle. It CAN prevent this crime from being committed. To this end, I have created and am now proud to announce the first issue of SIPIS (Singleness in Purpose - Incest Survivors), named after a SIP echo conference if the same name (I hope they don't mind stealing their name but it gets the point across in a no-nonsense fashion). SIPIS is a newsletter written *by*, *about* and *for* incest survivors and others who are interested in trying to do something to prevent this from happening to other children. One in four girls and one in seven boys will be molested before they reach the age of eighteen in this country alone, and that is intolerable. Only *you* can make a difference by making your feelings known, and getting involved. SIPIS is file requestable (HST 14.4) from 1:143/27 at (408) 298-2740 anytime but NMH under the magic filename SIPIS. I am also looking for people who want to become part of this *first* electronically compiled and distributed newsletter on the subject of child sexual abuse. You can help in several ways. First, by participating in the SIP_INCEST echo conference, also available from the Vietnam Veterans Valhalla if you cannot find it locally. Second, by contributing articles related to child sexual abuse to me at 1:143/27, or by mailing them to: Vietnam Veterans Valhalla, Inc. SIPIS Managing Editor 1016 E. El Camino Real Suite 331 Sunnyvale, CA. 94087 Third, you can become a part of the SIPIS *team* by volunteering to become a section editor. I need your help, the success of this vitally important newsletter is up to those of you who care. To give you an idea of what the market for such a publication is, the Vietnam Veterans Valhalla was *inundated* with requests for the first newsletter during the first week after it's release. There were 327 File requests, and another FidoNews 7-27 Page 18 2 Jul 1990 35 individual downloads in *one week*!!! This was totally unexpected but served to convince me I am doing the right thing! Please help!? ----------------------------------------------------------------- FidoNews 7-27 Page 19 2 Jul 1990 VIETNAM VETERANS' VALHALLA Todd C. Looney -SYSOP- FidoNet Node 1:143/27 300/1200/2400/9600 Bauds 22 Hours a day/365 Days a Year BBS (408) 298-2740 "In the jungles of 'Nam, some of us were scared and wary, but we pulled one another along and were able to depend on each other. That has never changed. Today, free of the criticisms and misunderstandings many veterans have endured, the Vietnam Veterans' Valhalla is a ray of hope, and a reminder that the lessons learned at such a high price shall not be forgotten, nor the errors repeated!!!" The Vietnam Veterans' Valhalla bulletin board started back when "Fido" was the only BBS software available for hobbyists and the like. Since that time over 40,000 calls have been made to our system which indicates to us that there is an expansive need for such a service as we provide. The Vietnam Veterans' Valhalla is back online again after being down for a year. We have a new computer and a HST 14.4 modem from USR to make long distance calling a little less painful. When the Valhalla started back in early 1986, the only other veteran-related conferencing service was through CompuServe. Since then veteran-related BBS systems have sprung up all over the world and we help each other to grow through a kind of unofficial "VetNet". For a complete list of BBS systems comprising the VetNet, simply file request the magic filename VETNET from the Vietnam Veterans' Valhalla, 1:143/27. Also through this VetNet we disseminate what has become one of the most popular backbone echo's available, the International Vietnam Veterans EchoConference (IVVEC), titled VIETNAM_VETS. Although the conference originated here at the Vietnam Veterans' Valhalla, it is Co-moderated by G. Joseph Peck, President of Berkshire Vet Center in Pittsfield, MA, who also sysops VETLink #1, 1:321/203, (413-443-6313, 300/1200/2400/9600 bauds). Together, Joe Peck and I created and manage a monthly publication dedicated to Vietnam Veterans called the "NAM VET Newsletter". During my absence, Joe and others have built the NAM VET into the pillar of information it is today. The NAM VET has grown from a tiny newsletter into a 100 page per month publication of vital importance to Vietnam veterans and non-veterans alike. Topics of interest addressed in each issue, and their section editors are: FidoNews 7-27 Page 20 2 Jul 1990 Post Traumatic Stress Disorder Kathleen Kelly, Ph.D. The New York Transfer BBS - Staten Island, NY (718) 448-2358 AGENT ORANGE Martin H. Kroll Fort Mountain BBS - Chatsworth, Ga. 30705 (404) 695-8703 MIA-POW Rick Stolz Okauchee, Wisconsin VETLink #1 BBS - Pittsfield, MA (413) 443-6313 -and- Glenn Toothman The Commo Bunker BBS - Karnes County, TX VetPoint 8 (1:321/203.8) & FidoNet 1:387/801 HOMELESSNESS Lefty Frizzell The Executive Washroom BBS - San Antonio, TX (713) 347-2588 FEDERAL BENEFITS Jim Hildwine VetPoint 47 - FidoNet 1:321/203.47 Shady Side, Md INCARCERATED VETS Todd C. Looney Vietnam Veterans' Valhalla - San Jose, CA (408) 298-2740 -and- Joyce Flory Desert Dolphin BBS - Las Cruces, NM (505) 523-2811 MEMORIALS Aaron Schmiedel Chai Way BBS - Dallas, TX (214) 239-4368 MEMORIES G. Joseph Peck VETLink #1 BBS - Pittsfield, MA (413) 443-6313 IN-TOUCH Ray "Frenchy" Moreau FidoNews 7-27 Page 21 2 Jul 1990 Herndon Byte Exchange BBS - Herndon, VA (703) 471-8010 CHAPLAIN Rev. Ed Brant The Landing Zone BBS - Fall Creek, OR (503) 747-9809 The NAM VET Newsletter is available through file request at any of the BBS systems listed above using the magic filename NAMVET. (At least I think that they all use that magic filename, if not, please excuse my error, I did *not* check with them first. Best to request FILES from their systems first to get a list of available files. I believe the International Vietnam Veterans' EchoConference (IVVEC) is available for viewing at all of these systems as well. The Vietnam Veterans' Valhalla also has a collection of veteran- related text files for you to read. Just file request the magic filename FILES to get a complete list of those files which are available on this system. The Valhalla has taken on a different perspective this year from when you might last have been on that system. It has expanded the scope of its services to include overall RECOVERY, and hosts a wide variety of such topic-related echo conferences and files. I certainly hope to be "seeing" you at the Vietnam Veterans' Valhalla soon. And please be sure to leave me a note when you stop by. ----------------------------------------------------------------- FidoNews 7-27 Page 22 2 Jul 1990 The Secret Sysop Society presents __ *** Conclave '90 *** / \ The SYSOPS Convention /|oo \ Home of FidoCon 1990 (_| /_) Lyndhurst, New Jersey _`@/_ \ _ August 1-5, 1990 | | \ \\ | (*) | \ )) ______ |__U__| / \// / Fido \ _//|| _\ / (________) (_/(_|(____/ (tm) Rate Plan Schedule: (Hotel rooms cannot be guaranteed if you register after July 1st!) A. Single Occupancy...................$545.00 B. Double Occupancy...................$400.00 C. Conference w/ meals................$250.00 D. Conference w/ Banquet..............$105.00 E. Conference only.....................$75.00 F. Banquet only........................$30.00 G. Registrant & Spouse................$670.00 Plans A B & G include all conference and hotel fees and meals. Prices are for pre-registrants using this form only. You must pay by Check, Money Order, or Credit Card. Please send no cash. All monies must be in U.S. Funds. Checks should be made out to: "Conclave '90" The following registration form must be completed and mailed to: PO Box 12 Lyndhurst, NJ 07071 You may register by Netmailing this completed form to 1:1/90 for processing. Rename it to ZNNNXXXX.REG where Z is your Zone number, N is your Net number, and X is your Node number. US Mail confirmation is required within 72 hours of electronic filing. If you are paying by credit card, please include the required information. For your own security, do not route any message with your credit card number on it. Crash it directly to 1:1/90. The official Conclave '90 airline is American Airlines. American offers a 5% discount the lowest applicable round-trip fare, including 1st class travel, subject to availability of inventory. All fare rules and restrictions apply. In addition, American offers 40% off their round trip unrestricted day coach fare. International travelers qualify for special benefits, including complimentary admittance to the Admiral's Club Lounge at any American Airlines terminal. Newark is an American Air- lines city with direct flights to most major cities. When making reservations, you must call American's Toll-free reservation number at 800-433-1790, and reference Star number 13704F. FidoNews 7-27 Page 23 2 Jul 1990 F I D O - C O N '90 R E G I S T R A T I O N F O R M Name: __________________________________________________________ Address: _____________________________ Apt. or Suite: _________ City: _________________________ State or Province: ____________ Postal Code: __________________ Country: ______________________ Voice Phone: ______________________ Data: _____________________ Zone:Net/Node.Point@Domain: ____________________________________ Special requirements: __________________________________________ +---------------+---------------------+-----+----------+-------+ | Option | Full | | Pre-Reg. | Line | |(Choose 1: A-G)| Name | Qty | Pricing | Total | +---------------+---------------------+-----+----------+-------+ | PLAN A** | | | $545.00 | | +---------------+---------------------+-----+----------+-------+ | PLAN B** | | | $400.00 | | +---------------+---------------------+-----+----------+-------+ | PLAN C | | | $250.00 | | +---------------+---------------------+-----+----------+-------+ | PLAN D | | | $105.00 | | +---------------+---------------------+-----+----------+-------+ | PLAN E | | | $ 75.00 | | +---------------+---------------------+-----+----------+-------+ | PLAN F | | | $ 30.00 | | +---------------+---------------------+-----+----------+-------+ | PLAN G** | | | $670.00 | | +===============+=====================+=====+==========+=======+ |*NJ Beach Trip | | | $ 24.50 | | +---------------+---------------------+-----+----------+-------+ |*Eve. NYC Tour | | | $ 37.50 | | +---------------+---------------------+-----+----------+-------+ |*NYC Shop Tour | | | $ 36.50 | | +---------------+---------------------+-----+----------+-------+ |*Medieval Times| | | $ 50.00 | | +---------------+---------------------+-----+----------+-------+ ** includes registration, Hotel, and meals | Total $ | | * Requires Pre-registration (before 7/1) +==========+=======+ MC _____ Visa _____ Card Number: _____________________________ Expiration: ___________ Signature _____________________________ ( Credit card registrations require valid signature ) ----------------------------------------------------------------- FidoNews 7-27 Page 24 2 Jul 1990 FidoCon '91 -- The New Beginning Zone 1 Region Coordinators Zone 1 Zone Coordinator The Region Coordinators of FidoNet Zone 1 continue to respect the results of the "IFNA dissolution referendum". We also respect Tom Jennings' revocation of IFNA's right to use trademarks and logos registered to Fido Software (FidoNet and the Fido logo). Tom Jennings has granted the Zone 1 Region Coordinators the right of continued use of the Registered Trademarks. The vote to dissolve IFNA as well as the [IFNA] trademark revocation make the 1990 Zone 1 FidoCon event the last one possible by authority of IFNA. But FidoCon, a celebration of FidoNet History and Tradition, will continue. The FidoNet Zone 1 Region Coordinators (RCs) invite you to submit proposals to sponsor and host the Zone 1 FidoCon '91, "The New Beginning". Please submit your individual or Net proposal to any Zone 1 RC before July 18. A committee of Zone 1 RCs will select a primary and backup site from proposals submitted. Please contact any Zone 1 RC for information and assistance with your proposal. Each year, several excellent proposals are eliminated through the selection process. 1990 was no exception. Those dormant proposals are some of the ones we hope you will resubmit for 1991. Let's not let all that good effort be wasted. We're asking you to "show us what you've got" so we can evaluate a variety of completed and in-progress proposals and make a selection without geographic bias. The primary and backup sites of the Zone 1 FidoCon '91 will be announced in FidoNews on Monday, July 30, 1990. Start thinking about your FidoCon '92 proposal. It's not that far off. ----------------------------------------------------------------- FidoNews 7-27 Page 25 2 Jul 1990 ================================================================= COLUMNS ================================================================= Henry Clark 124/6120 The Big Demo -- One of the large Long Distance phone companies is coming in for a demo of two big switches, which I have a small part in. One system is a 45 megabit digital switch, bandwidth suitable for video switching. Now why does that interest them ? Running on a little laptop buried in a cabinet somewhere is a program I wrote which commands the switch routing processor to route the video signals differently. For the demo, it changes the routing between a camera, a VCR, a CD player and a test pattern generator to eight TV monitors. The other system is a 1.54 megabit digital switch, bandwidth suitable for voice channel switching. Carried on the channel is 4 kilobits of statistical data, which is gathered by my programs on PC and displayed in fancy colors on the screen. The significant part is that these two systems are standing side by side, and customer came in to see both. The business of long distance ( read nonlocal ) carriers will change depending upon the restrictions placed on your local carrier in terms of "who can transport what". What we are looking at is the ability to 'dial' into any video source, similar to the way we dial into voice and data sources. Buried Cable -- The phone companies are going to take over the cable TV operations in this country and I'll tell you why. A review of the history of these natural monopolies would have to start with the baby boom of the '60s. All these young'uns have finally gotten their houses built and the housing market is starting to fall off, simply because there are fewer buyers out there. I can see no possibility of this trend changing for at least 20 years, probably more like 30. This falloff leaves the phone companies with little room for expansion, so they have to look elsewhere for new business. The phone company expansion that did occur was in the areas of buried cable and local switching equipment. They were quite peeved to see the cable TV companies burying their cable along the same lines. Cable TV has quite a way to go before they have saturated the market. Everyone has a phone, only about 17% of households have cable TV connections. Add to this the fact that phone companies have buried twisted pair, and cable TV companies have buried coax. FidoNews 7-27 Page 26 2 Jul 1990 Now we have optical fiber. No one disputes it's superiority over copper. The dispute is over who gets to bury the optical fiber cable in your back yard. When you finally do get fiber, you have all the bandwidth you need on the one cable for both phone, data ( ISDN style ), television and anything else you can think of. And you will only need ONE fiber. Even if 20 years from now, something better comes along, YOU will not need any extra bandwidth. In exchange for the privilege of being your only communications company, you extract certain restrictions from a natural monopoly. You get to force reduced profits and specify minimum levels of service. ( Sounds a lot like echomail, doesn't it ? ) Who's going to win the opportunity to dig up your yard ( again ) ? I believe it will be the phone companies, because they have the better administrative systems and more financial resources. They are waging this battle in congress right now. Our systems will become the terminals of a worldwide network which carries all communications traffic. The regional carriers will provide the administrative services and local routing. The long distance carriers will provide the backbone services. Network television will operate similar to the 1-800 toll free number. Pay channels on your TV will be billed the same as pay phone calls. This trend will become worldwide. Welcome to the 21st century. ----------------------------------------------------------------- FidoNews 7-27 Page 27 2 Jul 1990 ================================================================= LETTERS TO THE EDITOR ================================================================= Dave Thompson 1:18/60 Well, Vince, you asked for opinions concerning the subject article. I have heard a lot of complaints about lack of interest in network issues, so I will respond. When I first scanned issue 7.23 of FidoNews, I skipped over the High Mesa Publishing (HMP) article without a thought. I am not very sensitive to the no solicitations clause in Policy 4. Therefore, I never thought about the article. After reading Jim Dailey's letter, and your response, I decided to reread and think about the text. Publication of solicitious material is a two-edged sword. On one hand, it alerts possible consumers (many of us in FidoNet will be interested) to the product. On the other hand, it sets a precedent for further solicitations. I would not like to see FidoNews become a weekly trading paper similar to those available locally. From the first perspective, I see nothing offensive in the HMP article. The material is clearly of interest to FidoNet sysops and users. In fact, there may be many FidoNet participants who will provide text for inclusion in the diskazine and disk-based books. I think this is a good use for FidoNews. From the second point of view, how will you determine whether the next solicitation is appropriate for publication? As I said before, FidoNews is not a weekly trader's paper. I doubt that any of us want it to become one, too. One possible solution is to charge for advertising from commercial ventures. If the submission requirements and fees are set appropriately, then inclusion of commercial advertisements would pay for distribution of FidoNews. Of course, I have no idea how you would distribute any money received. To summarize, this is a thin line to walk. I would like to see similar material, because I am interested in such things. If you can control this, everything will be fine. Furthermore, this case is very clear. If the next one is similar, then you should publish it as well. However, what will you do when an article appears which treats a subject not so obviously of general interest? I would not like to see advertisements for deodorant! 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It is not our intent to list all utilities here, only those which verge on necessity. ----------------------------------------------------------------- FidoNews 7-27 Page 32 2 Jul 1990 ================================================================= NOTICES ================================================================= The Interrupt Stack 14 Jul 1990 Start of Eurocon / Techcon conference in Antwerp, Belgium. Please note that the date has changed: The conferences are one day later than originally planned ! 15 Jul 1990 Michael Keller, sysop of 1:170/401, will be wedded to Ruby Morain. 27 Jul 1990 The beginning of the REGION 17 Convention at Menucha Resort in the Columbia Gorge, Oregon. For details contact Ken Zwaschka, 1:105/54. 1 Aug 1990 Start of FidoCon '90. Contact Bill Vanglahn at 1:1/90 for details. 17 Aug 1990 Start of first ever Searchlight SysOps convention in Chicago, IL. Contact Marge Robbins at 1:283/120 for details. 5 Oct 1990 21st Anniversary of "Monty Python's Flying Circus" 6 Nov 1990 First anniversary of Van Diepen Automatiseert, 2:500/28 14 Nov 1990 Marco Maccaferri's 21rd Birthday. Send greetings to him at 2:332/16.0 1 Jan 1991 Implementation of 7% Goods and Services Tax in Canada. Contact Joe Lindstrom at 1:134/55 for a more colorful description. 16 Feb 1991 Fifth anniversary of the introduction of Echomail, by Jeff Rush. 7 Oct 1991 Area code 415 fragments. Alameda and Contra Costa Counties will begin using area code 510. This includes Oakland, Concord, Berkeley and Hayward. San Francisco, San Mateo, Marin, parts of Santa Clara County, and the San Francisco Bay Islands will retain area code 415. FidoNews 7-27 Page 33 2 Jul 1990 1 Feb 1992 Area code 213 fragments. Western, coastal, southern and eastern portions of Los Angeles County will begin using area code 310. This includes Los Angeles International Airport, West Los Angeles, San Pedro and Whittier. Downtown Los Angeles and surrounding communities (such as Hollywood and Montebello) will retain area code 213. 5 Jun 1997 David Dodell's 40th Birthday If you have something which you would like to see on this calendar, please send a message to FidoNet node 1:1/1. -----------------------------------------------------------------