F I D O N E W S -- Vol.11 No.52 (26-Dec-1994) +----------------------------+-----------------------------------------+ | A newsletter of the | ISSN 1198-4589 Published by: | | FidoNet BBS community | "FidoNews" BBS | | _ | +1-519-570-4176 | | / \ | | | /|oo \ | Small animal psychology and | | (_| /_) | Spiritual guidance Department: | | _`@/_ \ _ | Rev. Richard Visage 1:163/409 | | | | \ \\ | | | | (*) | \ )) | Editor: | | |__U__| / \// | Donald Tees 1:221/192 | | _//|| _\ / | Sylvia Maxwell 1:221/194 | | (_/(_|(____/ | Tim | | (jm) | Newspapers should have no friends. | | | -- JOSEPH PULITZER | +----------------------------+-----------------------------------------+ | Submission address: editors 1:1/23 | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | MORE addresses: | | | | Don -- don@exlibris.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca | | Tim Pozar -- pozar@kumr.lns.com | | David Deitch -- 1:133/411.411, deitch@gisatl.fidonet.org | | | submissions=> editor@exlibris.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | For information, copyrights, article submissions, | | obtaining copies of fidonews or the internet gateway faq | | please refer to the end of this file. | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ ======================================================================== Table of Contents ======================================================================== 1. Editorial..................................................... 2 2. Articles...................................................... 2 The Marriage of PCBoard and FIDO............................ 2 Dear Madam Emilia........................................... 4 Dear Madam Emilia........................................... 5 Bogus is K00l!.............................................. 6 My Dear Doctor Logger,...................................... 6 Watta Week!................................................. 8 OS/2, the Internet, and FidoNet............................. 9 Re: Bill Dirks' (1:250/603)................................. 9 Subject: The Finnish Winterwar 1939-40...................... 13 Subject: New Echo........................................... 13 Rupture The Rapture........................................ 14 3. Fidonews Information.......................................... 15 FidoNews 11-52 Page: 2 26 Dec 1994 ======================================================================== Editorial ======================================================================== Seeing as it is Christmass day, I'll keep this short. First of all, a merry Christmass to all, though it will be over by the time you all read this. Secondly, there was an article attributed to Mr. Bill Dirks in last week's issue. Mr. Dirks has informed us that he did not write the article, and he is (rightly so) very annoyed that it bore his name as it does not reflect his views or beliefs in the slightest. That is twice in the last year that forgeries have been submitted to the snooze. It seems to be an unavoidable consequence of accepting routed netmail articles ... though that acceptance has resulted in many more articles from other zones. Forgery of someone elses signature should be considered as excessively annoying, and result in automatic expulsion from the net, in my opinion. If we cannot trust our Email to be from who it says it is from, then the entire net is compromised. ======================================================================== Articles ======================================================================== The Marriage of PCBoard and FIDO The Coming of an Age by Vince Rifici (1:107/912) The day has arrived. The often sought after expert who helps other sysops in his community set up their BBSes for FIDO may be taking a "back seat" soon. Clark Development Co. (makers of PCBoard) has decided to enter the world of FIDO by integrating a FIDO mailer/ scanner/tosser into their software, which was here-to-fore strictly the province of a few esoteric group of authors who wrote the front- end mailers for FIDO. Clark did it with such acumen that PCBoard owners have been completely absolved from the drudgery of complicated configuring procedures, or from writing those dreaded batch files. My estimate is that a sysop who is already familiar with FIDO can configure the new PCBoard software in less than one hour. For those sysops who have never belonged to FIDO, the hardest part of the setup is understanding the concept of the hiarchy of the net, not the configuration of the software. The configuration of PCBoard with FIDO is straight forward and everything is menu driven from the PCBoard setup program which comes with every copy of PCBoard. No batch files are necessary since the integration of FIDO with PCBoard is completely seamless for both the sysop and the caller. All routines are internal to the PCBoard executable program and there is no requirement to hit or to log onto the bulletin board. Since the BBS software is already loaded, logon procedures are exactly the same as it was before FIDO FidoNews 11-52 Page: 3 26 Dec 1994 was added. When an EMSI handshake is detected by PCBoard, it immediately accepts the incoming mail packet and dumps it into an "IN" directory. Timers which have been configured during the FIDO setup, fire at short intervals and cause the packets to be decompressed and tossed into their respective conference areas. The timers can be set to scan for outgoing or incoming mail, and to dial-out at certain intervals when mail has been placed in the "OUT" directory by the scanner. Automatic events can be set up to poll your HUB every 4, 6 or 8 hours (or whenever), or netmail or echomail can be configured to be sent out immediately on a 24 hour basis. Virtually any combination of timed events can be set up including the ability to run multiple events during the same day, or runing events only on certain days of the week. All configuration is done from simple menu screens. The addition of a FIDO mailer/scanner/tosser to the existing PCBoard executable doesn't interfere with the operation of the BBS in any way what-so-ever. All normal operations take place exactly as before, with the FIDO portion being well hidden from the callers eyes. You can set up one of your nodes to be on-line all the time for PCBoard activities, and the other node for both PCBoard and FIDO activities. The combinations are very flexible. You can even have a third node devoted to FIDO exclusively so you can save your high-speed modems for callers, and use a slower one for FIDO mail. Although it's nice to pass mail quickly, unless you are acting as a HUB it's not really necessary to have a 28.8k modem at 3am when mail is being imported. Complete HUB capabilities are built into the new PCBoard allowing it to pass mail to other nodes, or route netmail to other HUBS. You can FREQ, Crash, Hold, Route, etc. All the features of FRONT DOOR or QFront are contained in this compact and efficient module. The integration of FIDO with PCBoard was a well thought out plan. Right now the software is still in the beta-test stage, but most of the serious problems have already been ironed out. There is still some minor tuning up to be done, but the software is fully functional and performing marvelously on my board. I expect to see the official version released in a few weeks. Change is sometimes hard to accept. I think it will take time before sysops who have already spent painful weeks configuring PCBoard with FRONT DOOR & FIDOPCB to switch to the new built-in FIDO configuration. I also think it will take time for sysops to get to trust the new software. They will probably wait for it to become firmly established by the newer sysops before tossing out their tried and trusted Front Door setup. Little by little the easiest way of accomplishing the same task will emerge and Front Door, QFront and D'Bridge for PCBoard sysops will eventually melt into the past. It's even harder to stop progress! FidoNews 11-52 Page: 4 26 Dec 1994 Dear Madam Emilia Q: Existance is confusing when your alter-ego insists upon psychoanalysing you. A: Yeah, well your _problem_ is that you do not ask enough questions, and you do not listen to what people say to you. If I took all your net mail and read each message individually, I would have a hard time trying to figure out which of the messages _from_ you were in response to particular messages _to_ you. Q: That's only because i like to think tangentially. Fish really can have something to do with bicycles. A: Balls. You are rationalizing. You are inventing correlations between you and other people as an excuse to say only what you mean rather than what other people mean, thereby avoiding considering what others are saying. Q: Oh. Well, i suppose i might be able to appear somewhat more considerate and write full-fledged, actual _responses_ to mail, rather than merely writing letters back to people. [q: On second thought, i do so consider what others are saying. It's like eating lovely grapes, and then they ferment, and then i give whine.] [a: I'm tired of that old joke. Funny once.] A: The real problem is that it takes me a year or so to understand the mail. The ideas all build up, and mingle, and i tend to think of the idea part of the mail as one nebulous mind, so i soak it all up but it doesn't make any sense to me until it's had time to settle but it never does settle because the new mail is always shaking up the older foundational ideas. It is not possible to give a straight answer to a warped question, and be right. Q: What do you say about banishment? A: What's the diff'? Q: You are FLIPped. Not a functioning biped. Banishment is like shunning. Shunning was a punishment feared by the Roman elite. The worst thing which could happen to a noble Roman of the golden age of Imperial Rom, which invented beurocracy, was banishment. Q: ...but look what happened to the criminals of Imperial Britain: Australia. They didn't do too badly, if they managed to get there at all. Q: What about Quaker-style "shunning" ? The whole community decides to completely ignore anyone who is considered to be criminally irreverent, until they change. FidoNews 11-52 Page: 5 26 Dec 1994 A: What is irreverence? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Dear Madam Emilia [ in a pub, next to a pool table: Waiter (who is also a musician) approaches a couple to "take orders" ] I: We'll have two Amber Drafts. Q: um. i'll have a dark beer instead please. Is Black and Tan on tap? [ the Irishman's eyes glower increasingly blackly, his arms fold across his chest, his expression burries itself in his beard] I: So. You like _orange_ beer, do you now? [ she holds the glass towards the light, squinting ] Q: Hum, actually it looks more _brown_ than orange. I: That beer is made in Orangeville. Q: Oh. I had thought it might be British, since it's dark, I: I think I'll just drink my beer and be on my way, then. Q: What did i do wrong now? Why did he walk off in a huff? - - - - - - - act 2 - - - - - - - [ history lesson, explaining why rice rather than potatoes for xmas is unbearable ] Q: Do you know what "Black and Tan" means? A: um. Noooo. It's a kind of beer? Q: The Easter Uprising was five people seizing the general post office in Dublin to protest the British Occupation. The Black and Tan were troops comprised of criminals let loose from British prisons who were told to do whatever they wanted as long as they quelled the rebellion. People were killed, raped, and tortured. A: Oh. k. Is there anything wrong with drinking your Glenfiddich FidoNews 11-52 Page: 6 26 Dec 1994 instead...? Q: Nothing whatsoever. Did you realize that the Irish Catholics are not allowed by an English RC to have their own net? A: Why not? and Why? Huh? s> ...and on, anon ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Bogus is K00l! Bogus is a killer toy doods! Hey all you fidonetters, ever get sick and tired of being bullied by that dumbass echo moderator? Now you can get even, or even get ahead. No system is safe from bogus. Time for you netters to start shoring up your security, remember doods and doodettes, your net is only secure as your weakest lamer! Wow, looks like its time for me to fly.... Until next week! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Swamp Swine Magazine Remote Node Carp-on-the-Rideau Darkest Ontario Canada My Dear Doctor Logger, My apologies for my slightly extended absence. It was, however, most necessary to recuperate after a slight whirl at some political consulting with our old friend Ollie. I naturally chose to spend my time at the 'Pit of Sin' resort due to the fact that I had heard that the natives were clad in a most immodest way, that being, not at all, and I felt I could combine some relaxation with spreading some of the Good Book's messages. I did stop off briefly in Washington on the way back. As I was unwell, my contact had to meet me in the hospital, but during that time I was able to advise Jocelyn Elders to go ahead with her remarks on educating young Americans about masturbation. I really couldn't suggest otherwise, for one thing, she was wearing the Surgeon General's uniform (slightly less ostentatious than your average tin-pot dictator uniform) and, because I was in too much pain to laugh. Imagine what they'd call the courses, Wanking 101? FidoNews 11-52 Page: 7 26 Dec 1994 Honestly, I don't know why people refer to Americans as Yanks, it's an obvious misnomer. Incidentally, did I thank you for sending Ms. LaBamba to find me? I was just about to achieve an epiphany with several young ill-clad and barely nourished local girls when she burst into the room, shrieking like a wounded wildebeeste and brandishing a large, empty flagon of ripple wine. She claims it was your idea to tie me up, for my own protection, after having conked me on the head with the ripple bottle. I don't wish to go into details, but you can imagine the combined effect of VanierBabe hormones, ripple wine, high temperatures, and having someone, albeit unconscious, tied to a bed. My nurse, Chiquita, has been attending to my many contusions and suggests that I should be able to walk again in a month or two. I bet that you weren't aware that Ms. LaBamba has 12 sisters and 38 cousins, all of which are named Johanne? I've telexed the whole lot of them and given them your address. I've just been catching up with the 'snooze for the last few weeks, and I was surprised to find someone named Dallas Hinton in here claiming that 'Rev. Richard Visage' was an a.k.a. for' Doc Logger'. Mr. Hinton obviously has not seen us together, otherwise he'd be quite aware that I'm far better looking, and that the first thing I do when I sense your presence is to load the flintlock. When Mr. Hinton refered to unspecified missives in the 'snooze' as being "poor quality innuendo and trash", he was obviously referring to your contributions, since my efforts are clearly 'attrocious innuendo and trash'. As you well know, material like this is not easily written. (Don't try this at home, kids.) I was also surprised to find that there was an objection to the use of 'adult' language, like "dominatrix", in the 'snooze, so as to not corrupt any children that might peruse these pages. This after having spent some quality time with my small person, Walloonetta, who insisted I watch some inspiringly violent television shows (yes, Virginia, there is a show titled 'Biker Mice from Mars') and listen to some of the most paint-peelingly obscene rap music - broadcast complete with bump-and-grind video in mid-afternoon on the weekend. One wonders if Mr. Watson lives in an Amish community. At any rate, it's pleasant to be home for Christmas, and refreshing to once again be subjected to temperatures of just-above-absolute zero and enjoy the thrill of watching the snowdrifts get higher and higher. I understand that you are the contact for this week's bookmaking on which net the RC12 will choose to "forget" to include in the nodelist. Please put the usual bet on net250, I like to stick with a winner. We must also establish odds for the usual gaggle of *C wannabees that will start posturing for the impending RC12 election. There could be serious wisdom in topping up the ibogaine supply before witnessing this bit of entertainment. As your spiritual advisor might I wish you the best of the season, and assure you not to worry should any of your Christmas presents FidoNews 11-52 Page: 8 26 Dec 1994 sound like they are ticking, particularly one wrapped in plain brown paper that's just about the same size as a case of dynamite. Religiously yours, Rev. Richard Visage Fidonet Spiritual Advisor, Demolitions Expert. 1:163/409 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Watta Week! Fidonet gets exciting again! In the last snooze (dare we call it that anymore) I was simply delighted to read that my good friend Adrian is writing software for echomail security. That's great! Why should John S. have the monopoly on that line of stuff anyway. I did see that my ex best buddy Dirksy was a bit on the more than normally paranoid side of things though. He's really got to take a vacation sometime. All this talk of ramming packets makes me get so darn sweaty. Steve Winter is back in the net, all is right with the world. Satti is making friends and influencing enemies all over the net over that little incident I am sure. I've had my run ins with that damndable Steve Winter (my opinion only of course, I can't prove he's damned, but I do assume that he may be) and I would like to know just one little thing. What's his 800 number? Do you all want to get rid of him once and for all?? It's easy....we ALL ignore him. No one carries his echo, and I think his restrictions cause an undue amount of administrative work on the *EC bunch anyway. Get it off the bird and the backbone...speaking of which...I guess we must be out of backbone or he'd still be gone huh? I see more whining about the Fidonews format from Jesse again. Geesh, why doesn't he just take the advice that has been offered and make his own "for the blind" version. No one is forcing him to read this. Yes, it would be NICE, it would be SENSITIVE, it would be a pain in the ass but we COULD do a blind version of Fnews...but who wants to do it? I don't think we should lay it on the editors. One last thing...I see a new and improved Fidonet Asshole of the Year contest is brewing. Gee, there are so many to nominate and I had suspected that Steve Winters, Bob Kohl, Bob Germer, Bob Johnstone, John Hurzvsky, Tom Pardue, Jim Vargas, or Bob (say what?) Satti had it all sewed up. Hmmmm, does being named Bob make you an asshole? Is it even worth running for now? Later! Professor Dingleberry 1:203/900 FidoNews 11-52 Page: 9 26 Dec 1994 OS/2, the Internet, and FidoNet By Dennis Peterson The rapid growth of interest in OS/2 has been accompanied by the emergence of a wide variety of FidoNet echo areas dedicated to the OS/2 users. That the volume of mail is so consistantly large in these areas suggests the OS/2 user is also a very active user, and interested in obtaining ever more information on their OS. The newest area of growth is in the Internet connectivity provided by Warp 3.0. The excitement in this newly developing area is amazing and fun to be a part of. In order to support this interest area I have created a new echo area for my users which is dedicated explicitly to the OS/2 Internet connection and the issues and topics related to that subject. It was very quickly suggested to me that this is an area of international interest and so I was encouraged to promote the echo for placement on the FidoNet backbone. I agree. The echo is tagged OS2INET and is currently available via net343. All are encouraged to consider this echo as a viable new special interest for Internet users and specifically, OS/2 users with Internet interests. Dennis Peterson Sysop, OS/2 Northwest 1:343/179.0 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Editors note: As was noted in the editorial, the article in question was ***not*** written by Mr. Dirks. His name was forged. The following, however, is being run unedited in the interests of fairness. Re: Bill Dirks' (1:250/603) by Dirk Theurer 1:153/828 A note to the FidoNews editors: I am appalled by the lack of discretion you exercise in printing articles in the FidoNews. It is becoming increasingly apparent that FidoNews is not "A newsletter of the FidoNet BBS community" but rather more like "Weekly World News", the "National Enquirer" or similar sensationalistic folderol. The only reason I'm doing anything about this at all is because a friend of mine has been directly affected by your inability to do what you purport to do: edit a newsletter. I would consider a name- change from FidoNews to FidoFlame very appropriate. Once people understand that you publish irrelevant rants, they will be able to give your "articles" the attention they deserve. Note: All quotes from Bill Dirks' article in FidoNews Vol.11 FidoNews 11-52 Page: 10 26 Dec 1994 No.51 are prefixed with BD>. All quotes from PKTIM's documentation are prefixed with P>. Bill, Personally, I've been wondering whether or not I should lend the credence to your accusations regarding PKTIM that responding to them would. Normally, I'd ignore them, but you've attributed actions directly to a friend of mine that is only indirectly involved. Before actually defending anything, you (Bill Dirks) do NOT have any way of legitimately presenting anything about PKTIM because I have not received a PKTIM registration from you: P> Registration_____________________________________________________ P> P> PKTIM is "mailware". If you use PKTIM, send netmail to Dirk Theurer at P> 1:153/828@fidonet.org indicating what PKTIM version(s) you've used. P> P> While this doesn't sound like much (it isn't), it IS required. As you have not registered PKTIM, you have clearly either not used it (in which case everything in your article can be discounted as ignorance), or you are in violation of PKTIM's usage agreement - publicly stated, no less. I was prepared to leave all arguments at that, but I feel I need to defend a friend of mine from libelous and slanderous statements made publicly by yourself (such character defamation is rather more serious than any usage agreement you might have violated, and I would defer to Adrian's actions in such a case): BD> I am also disturbed by the release of a program by Adrian Walker BD> called PKTIM. Bill, you do NOT know who "released" PKTIM: P> PKTIM (C)opyright 1994 Dirk Theurer, Adrian Walker Also: P> Adrian's too busy to field PKTIM questions. Direct all questions, P> comments, suggestions to: P> P> Dirk Theurer 1:153/828@fidonet.org The only association that Adrian had with PKTIM was that he co-owned its (C)opyright. (How Adrian came to co-own PKTIM's (C)opyright is irrelevant.) BD> Adrian makes it very clear that "improper use of PKTIM could be in BD> violation of Fido Policy". Adrian made nothing like that clear at all. I did. Note that YOU FidoNews 11-52 Page: 11 26 Dec 1994 quoted "improper use". Note also that the above quote does not appear anywhere in PKTIM's documentation. To clarify for anyone who is not familiar with PKTIM, here are the warnings at the very top of PKTIM.DOC: P>************************************************************************** P>************************************************************************** P>* * P>* WARNING: It is extremely easy to VIOLATE FIDONET POLICY with PKTIM! * P>* WARNING: It's a "loaded gun with the safety on." Be careful who you * P>* WARNING: point it at. * P>* * P>************************************************************************** P>************************************************************************** P> P>************************************************************************** P>* * P>* Remember: !_YOU_! are responsible for all results obtained through * P>* the (ab)use of PKTIM! * P>* * P>************************************************************************** P> P>************************************************************************** P>* * P>* Remember: Use of some PKTIM configuration file options is virtually * P>* GUARANTEED to piss off whoever is getting the results. * P>* * P>************************************************************************** These warnings are repeated in other places in PKTIM's documentation along with numerous other notes warning against violating FidoNet Policy. BD> [Adrian Walker] SAYS that PKTIM is basically designed to detect BD> grunged and bogus packets Point out exactly where I state that PKTIM was "basically designed to detect grunged and bogus packets". In fact, I say: P> Introduction_____________________________________________________________ P> P> PKTIM's main purpose is to collect information on FidoNet Technology P> Network (FTN) mail packets (PKTs). Also: P> WARNING: If you use the NewPacket keyword, it is strongly recommended P> you use a PKT "fixer" before running PKTIM. PKTIM's PKT/message P> checking is rather rudimentary. Programs such as GMD are much P> better at finding errors. (For those interested, PKTIM only detects as many types of errors it needs to to continue functioning - and it doesn't even do that particularly well - hence the recommendation to use GMD or similar.) FidoNews 11-52 Page: 12 26 Dec 1994 BD> Now I ask you, was the release of this package REALLY for the BD> good of Fido? Point out exactly where I state that PKTIM was released "for the good of Fido". It was released for its stated reason to be used for its stated purpose. Nothing else. BD> I am seriously considering publically boycotting the BD> Virus_Nfo and Flame conferences publically, as well as the use BD> of PKTIM. Perhaps while we are bringing about justice, we can BD> slow the much-wanted traffic in these echos to a halt, legally, BD> and eliminate the use of PKTIM for diabolical reasons. If you had actually read PKTIM's documentation, you would have been able to determine my own stance on the use of PKTIM: P> Depending on what other options are used, PKTIM _can_ violate policy, and p> I have every intention of (whoever) being able to trace the node that has P> violated policy with PKTIM. If you decide to NOT use your own address, I P> give you every assurance that FidoNet members are resourceful enough to P> track you down using other means... with the consequences being that much P> more dire. There is nothing "diabolical" about PKTIM. I wrote it for clearly stated reasons and uses. Any interpretations you make that fall outside of those stated reasons and uses are exactly that - interpretations. BD> Again, I am currently pursuing this further, and have enlisted some BD> help of my own. Perhaps before you waste any more of your time, read PKTIM's documentation. If you decide to continue with your paranoid and futile pursuit, be advised that I have discussed my options with various people in the legal profession - people that take extremely dim views of slander and libel. It is apparent that you have some paranoia about specific uses of PKTIM. With that, I can sympathize. If you find ANYONE abusing PKTIM in FidoNet, contact me. I'll back you 100% in finding and dealing with whoever is using my program in any manner that could be detrimental to FidoNet. Let me make this completely clear, Bill. I will defend your (and anyone else's) right to speak (questions and concerns about PKTIM are more than welcome). I will also defend my (and anyone else's) right not to be defamed (the libel and slander you wrote). P>* Remember: Use of some PKTIM configuration file options is virtually * P>* GUARANTEED to piss off whoever is getting the results. * You have managed to piss me off without even using PKTIM. FidoNews 11-52 Page: 13 26 Dec 1994 Anyone interested in obtaining a copy of PKTIM can File Request PKTIM from me at 1:153/828@fidonet.org, 23 hours (not during ZMH). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stefan Pieksma (2:205/603.44) Subject: The Finnish Winterwar 1939-40 Hello Editor ! As a Student of the Swedish Officers Collage, I'm writing on a Thesis on the communications of the Swedish Volunteers in th Finnish Winter War of 1939-40. If you have any piece of info in that subject, Please write me a Netmail. My Best Regards: 2/Lt Stefan Pieksma 6:th Arctic Div. Sweden 2:205/603.44 pix@quad.ct.se ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICK LITHGOW (1:2601/574) Subject: New Echo Hey Editor New echo started. Please leave me netmail and I will give you a session level password. BOCA_MODEMS will hopefully also be distributed via Planet Connect for wider distributions. BOCA_MODEMS is also a Steve "I'm a blowhard" Winter free echo. Boca Research will also be participating in this echo but is in no way obligated to. They will be with us as soon as we set up their mailer correctly. BOCA_MODEMS is moderated by myself and owned by myself and Image Gallery BBS. Should I decide to step down as moderator I will appoint someone of my choosing. (Isn't god status great!?) We hope you enjoy it. And don't worry. I rule with an knit mitten instead of an iron glove. Just don't piss me off (grin). Welcome to the BOCA_MODEMS echo! These are the rules. 1> This echo is for the discussion of any and ALL boca modems from 300-28,800 v.fc/v.34. This includes discussions dealing with connecting other modems. 2> NO FLAMING will be tolerated. Failure to adhere to this simple rule will result in your suspension/excommunicacation of this echo. 3> Steve Winter will not be participating in this echo. Anyone who allows him to post will have his feed cut. So we will have FidoNews 11-52 Page: 14 26 Dec 1994 an echo in which we false modem scum can have rational discussions. 4> Any suggestions to other users will be appreciated. Please be friendly and courteous. And handle any mail-bombing/pipe bombs, low cost dentonation devices via netmail and the US Postal service. 5> Have FUN! And pay attention to what other people say. Please do not over quote. Quote only pertinent parts of the message. Do not quote tag lines, origin lines, or Sigs. 6> Thats it. No more rules. Let's get this echo on the back bone! Rick Lithgow (Internet) rlith@ios.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Rupture The Rapture Not a paste! Not a gel! "Rupture The Rapture" contains over one megabyte of offensive graphics and heinous sound f/x's guaranteed to bring soothing relief to irritations caused by Christian Fundamentalism or DOUBLE your religious persecution back! STRATEGIC DEFENSE INITIATIVE TECHNOLOGY CHEAP! "Rupture The Rapture's" patented V.W.A.R.E. (VolksWagen, Accelerator Railgun-Equipped) weapons system is a state-of-the-art particle accelerator capable of destroying Soviet SS-20 missiles. 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