F I D O N E W S -- Volume 15, Number 14 6 April 1998
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Why are we doing this hobby?
Table of Contents
1. EDITORIAL ................................................ 1
2. ARTICLES ................................................. 2
BBS? I Was Calling Granny! ............................... 2
HELP! An old FidoNetter in Need! ......................... 5
3. COLUMNS .................................................. 8
Casting More Nacre Before Peccaries ...................... 8
4. COORDINATORS CORNER ...................................... 11
Nodelist-statistics as seen from Zone-2 for day 093 ...... 11
5. NOTICES .................................................. 12
Future History ........................................... 12
6. FIDONEWS PUBLIC-KEY ...................................... 13
FidoNews PGP Public-Key Listing .......................... 13
7. FIDONET BY INTERNET ...................................... 14
FidoNet Via InterNet Hubs ................................ 15
8. FIDONEWS INFORMATION ..................................... 17
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EDITORIAL
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Ah, don't you love the smell of burnt monitors in the morning?
The current 'scorched earth' policy that is resounding through
Zone 1 echoes has been accented by the uninvited appearance of
Ward Dossche, the Z2C, into a Zone 1 administrative echo,
making comments on how he sees Zone 1 being operated.
Funny...he has the time to do this, but not enough time to vote
in a new International Coordinator. How so very odd.
It seems a loud and vocal contingent has descended on the
echoes, portraying themselves as 'saviours' or 'champions'...
and really doing little more than making accusations and
innuendo, based mostly on edited comments and misquotes, as
well as self-regenerating myths. In general, just 'bashing'
under the guise of a 'moral cause'.
To be fair, your Editor has also been accused of doing the
same...but then again, he has never declared himself to be
the 'saviour' or 'champion' of anything but his own beliefs.
And so, when you see the comments about how I have "biased"
or "twisted" the FidoNews, consider that the only real part
I have any input into is this small corner called the
"editorial"...and how the rest of the text is only those
submissions that members of FidoNet have presented for
publication or the 'boilerplate' that is in any publication.
I guess that's their way of saying that *everyone* in Fido is
"biased" and "twisted"...especially since they can't come up
with any explanations on _how_ I've achieved this 'goal'.
Funny thing though...what purpose does this 'scorched earth'
policy *really* serve in what is _supposed_ to be a hobby?
Hmmmmm?
In this issue, a word from Chris Baker which we might all wish
to look at; another view from only one side of the story by Doc
Logger; Ward Dossche's 'doomsday' countdown, and a bona fide
article on a subject that it seems no one really pays attention
to anymore (HINT: It's called "BBSing".)
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BBS? I Was Calling Granny!
The hidden treasures of Bulletin Board Systems...
by Robert Short [NetMail - 1:105/38 E-mail - bsbbs@juno.com]
OK, your wait times are unbearable at Almost On Line, and now you
have nothing to do except play Duke 3D and Doom. You're just dying
for more online time --but what are you going to do, subscribe to
a second ISP? Or, you've just spent 6 hours on the World Wide Wait,
finding and downloading the latest version of Quake, but it's too
late at night to try it. How about logging on to a home page and
sweating it out while downloading a dozen images -- so you can jump
to yet another page or two? Ah, the Internet! Well, maybe the I-Net
isn't quite that bad. With the proper filtering software or parental
direction, it can be a safe, educational and entertaining experience
for children. For adults, the World Wide Web can be an invaluable
tool to access programs and support for both personal and business
needs, creating a new marketing revolution. Another Dimension
There's another dimension to cyberspace that they don't mention at
the omputer store, one that can provide many of the same features as
the Internet and some that it doesn't. It not the intention of this
article to make comparisons or to infer that one is better than the
other, as both are unique in their own ways. Rather I write hoping
to educate the reader to an aspect in telecommunications that has
served the community since before the World Wide Web was conceived,
and has been somewhat overshadowed by the highly publicized and
popular Web. This alternative is the "Bulletin Board System" (BBS),
an online service offering a wide variety of online games, files,
one-on-one chat, message areas, private mail, and participatory
forums. All this can be found at many of the local BBSs via the
communications software that came bundled with your operating system
HyperTerminal for Window 95, Terminal for Win 3.x).
There are many different styles of Bulletin Board Systems; each BBS
is customized in form and appearance by its system operator, the
person known as the SysOp. Boards range in size from those operating
over a single telephone line from a home PC to full-featured, multi-
line systems run on a local area network. Their look and feel can
range from straight black-and-white text to 256-color SVGA graphics.
Many BBSs charge you nothing to call and offer 30-60 minutes access
per day, while others might charge a nominal subscription fee to
access the more popular features like multi-user chat or CD-ROM
files areas, or to allow you more daily online time. Still others
might offer full-fledged (and fee-based) Internet access in addition
to their standard BBS services. The majority of these boards are
operated by computer hobbyists who put their time, equipment and
money at the disposal of the community simply for the joy of doing
so. Quite often, the SysOp will run his BBS to promote a special
area of interest, while others have a more general appeal.
One of the most enticing aspects of BBSs is the personal attention
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many SysOps give to their callers. Some even go out of the way to
help their users with software and hardware problems, making them a
valuable resource for technical assistance and advice. Opening an
account is as easy as calling and answering a few simple questions.
Most fee-based BBSs offer a free trial period to give you a feel for
the system before subscribing. Free boards often have a Call Back
Verifier which calls your computer to check your phone number and
then automatically validates your account. Once a member, you will
become part of a family of users who consider their favorite BBS a
place to meet, play, share programs and ideas, and an indispensable
resource for sending messages across town or around the world. At
your BBS, you can truly enjoy a sense of closeness and community.
SysOps often host gatherings where members can meet one another.
As mentioned above, there can be many activities available on BBSs
that inform and inspire, entertain and enhance. Offering relatively
safe alternatives to some areas of the Internet, BBS SysOps usually
require phone number verification, real names for the user records
(though aliases might also be allowed) and, where access to adult
material is available, proof of age and sex. These requirements seek
to guarantee a comfortable environment for both men and women,
children and adults. It is not uncommon to see users ages 8 to 80.
Here are the features found at many BBSs in the your area. You're
bound to find something enlightening on your very first call.
Messages
This was the main feature when BBSs appeared, hence the name
Bulletin Board System. In message areas you can easily place or read
an advertisement or announcement, post a question or answer, or
browse through hundreds of specialized subject areas for interesting
information. If your BBS is connected to a network of systems such
as FidoNet, most messages will be "echoed" around the globe to some
50,000 other BBSs which pass messages and files via telephone line,
satellite and the Internet. If you have problems with hardware or
software, you'll find that many computer companies and programmers
visit these message areas to answer questions and offer support.
There are currently over 700 FidoNet echoes (topic areas) that cover
more than 500 subjects.
Files
The local BBS is a great place to download the latest shareware,
freeware, and public domain software. You will often have download
privileges on your first call, and the compressed files you download
are easily uncompressed with a variety of freeware or shareware
unzipping programs. If your primary connection to the Internet is
via modem, you're in for a couple pleasant surprises. First, file
transfers from a BBS typically proceed more quickly than modem-based
FTP (file transfer protocol) downloads from the Internet because
you're not sharing the data line between you and the file source
with anyone else. Or, maybe you've had a multi-megabyte transfer
interrupted toward the end of the download. With FTP, all you can
do is start over again. On the other hand, BBS's usually support
download protocols that allow you to pick up where left off --
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without having to re-download what's already on your system.
Chat
Multi-line BBSs may offer user chat, or even "forums" where any
number of people can gather to discuss common issues. Once online,
you can usually see a list of users who are also online and page
someone for one-on-one chat, or invite them to a private chat room.
This feature can really help to instill a sense of "family" and
belonging.
E-mail
Where some smaller systems may have private e-mail strictly between
users on that BBS, others might have mail across their network
(NetMail), or even give you an Internet e-mail address. The SysOp
may allow file attachments, enabling you to mail shareware games
to a friend just like over the Internet.
Telnet FTP
If you join a board with multiple lines and an Internet connection,
you'll have the ability to call out to other BBSs. This allows you
to log on to another telnet-able BBS, anywhere in the world, with no
long-distance phone charges. A multi-line BBS can also utilize open
lines to access FTP sites, where you can obtain files that might not
otherwise be available locally. Coupled with the home system's file
bases, this creates an enormous resource for finding an unlimited
variety of programs.
Faxing
Some systems have online fax capabilities that allow you to send a
fax via the Internet, eliminating long-distance charges. This is
usually as secure as sending e-mail.
Doors/Games
Last, but not least, are the ever-popular door games. Everything
from Acey Deucy to Yahtzee can be played on a BBS. Card, dice,
board, word search, adventure, and role-playing games abound. Even
the new 3-D rendered games are possible at connections of 14,400
BPS or higher. You play these games while online against a computer
opponent or another caller. If your BBS has more that one line, you
can play many of these head-to-head against another person online.
There are also many information doors such as skiing and road
conditions, electronic magazines, stock quotes, weather, horoscope
and matchmakers. Whether you are a kid stuck indoors on a rainy
day, a mom with time between laundry loads, on lunch break at the
office, disabled or retired, you are sure to get your fill of
whatever sparks your interest at many of the locally run BBSs in
your area. Why not strike up your modem and discover a whole new
cyber-world right in your own back yard?
About the Author Bob Short is an aspiring BBS System Operator,
having run his BS BBS for over a year in the Portland area.
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Christopher Baker
1:18/14
This is an excerpt of a message I sent out a couple weeks ago to a
select mailing list. There hasn't been any response so I'm going to a
global audience [if anyone still reads FidoNews].
It originally included an entire timeline of my adult life but that
seemed pretty boring for this audience so just the pertinent data is
included in this version.
--- updated section ---
1998 17 Jan - 14th anniversary did not go normally - first warning
ignored;
1998 10 Feb - wife notified me she was quitting;
1998 11 Feb - wife notified me of another guy who could
"communicate", abandons me, her son, her dog and
her house;
1998 contemplated suicide as a recovery technique, failed both;
1998 6 Mar - wife hits two motorcyclists during Bike Week while
maybe DUI w/boyfriend driving his car because he's
too drunk to drive it;
1998 11 Mar - signed uncontested divorce papers with woman i never
knew;
1998 13 Mar - female victim dies w/o regaining consciousness, male
victim discharged from hospital w/facial injuries;
1998 18 Mar - awaiting blood work to determine if wife goes to
prison;
1998 18 Mar - updated the previous timeline with bitterness and
regret;
1998 31 Mar - new update - she WASN'T driving! she was lying for
new boyfriend so he skates on DUI since they don't
test passengers. she won't go to prison which is
good for Matthew but they may prosecute for
obstruction, conspiracy, and perjury. who knows? who
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cares now?
1998 5 Apr - created a new search page for a life partner at:
http://ddi.digital.net/~cbaker84/bakelook.html
--- end update ---
--- old info ---
1998 waiting to win the lottery. [fnord]
i'm still running my FidoNet system [www.fidonet.org for info on what
this is] and have been since 1984 [hence the cbaker84 moniker] and
currently edit the FidoNews which is published every Monday
[www.fidonews.org].
if your desperate for more info, you can check out our personal pages
at:
http://ddi.digital.net/~cbaker84
and if you'd like to see my commercial efforts, check out:
http://www.pub44.com
among my other diversions.
i got two Java coding books [about 6 pounds apiece] for Christmas so
it could get animated. [snicker]
i also have email addresses at:
cbaker84@aol.com
cbaker84@pub44.com
webmaster@pub44.com
Christopher.Baker@f14.n18.z1.fidonet.org
that last one is my FidoNet address converted to Internet format. the
one that i'm using now [cbaker84@digital.net] is my primary address
and the one i check daily. the others may go uninspected for weeks at
a time.
is that enough? [whew!]
--- updated section ---
isn't it amazing how fast everything can turn to ashes?
i no longer edit FidoNews. i still belong to FidoNet and run a Node
there but i do very little with it having lost most interest in life
in general.
i have primary custody of my 12 y/o son and the house. i am going thru
the motions for his sake only since i still cannot see the light at
the end of this tunnel. everyone sez i will eventually but i don't
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believe it yet though light is beginning to filter in finally.
that's all the news from here for now. if it gets worse or better,
i'll let you know. [grin]
--- update ends ---
thanks, for caring, and all the support during these dark days.
now, if everyone who called and wrote offering cash would send all
they can to me at:
Christopher Baker
P.O. Box 471
Edgewater, FL 32132-0471
then maybe i won't have to declare bankruptcy [i'm on a fixed
disability income] to survive this betrayal. i'm using the P.O. Box
instead of my street address because she has no access to that.
i figure $20,000 should do it as i will be left with all the bills as
well as the property not to mention psychiatric counseling for my son
and myself [we've already started that at $100 a pop]. if i can get
one dollar [or more if you can] from every Node in FidoNet, i'll be
set since there are 23,000+ Nodes. so here is my appeal to you in
FidoNews.
you can send moral support in lieu of cash if you think this request
is too tacky [i certainly do]. [grin]
you can also tell me to buzz off. i won't take it personally.
thanks.
QOFM.
Chris
Rights On!
1:18/14
FidoNet since 1984
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COLUMNS
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Dear Editorbeing,
This article is submitted by Doc Logger (163/110) who
labours in the bowels of Swamp Swine Magazine. The
aforementioned organ can also be reached at
cherriot@magmacom.com for those whose wish to submit
PlainBrownWrapperMail(tm) about the foibles of the usual
suspects.
Roll da flic, Zorch....
Dear Reverend Visage,
Do you still have those recipes for Chevron that were so
kindly given to you by Jackie Onassis' chef? The reason I
ask is that Fidoland has been convulsed by a set of events
which, no lie here, began with a horse story. You'll need to
break open another cask of Laphroag so that you can
appreciate the savage ugliness of the events. We may have to
polish off our artistic licenses and restate the phrase:
"Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely" with
the new truism "Power makes you real stupid."
Naturally, this is a saga involving Bob Kohl (R10C) who has
gathered at least one admirer and enough detractors to
repopulate the Bimini Atol. This week has seen the departure
of both David Hallford R10EC and Mike Murray, NoCal Zhub.
What is remarkable about both departures is that they have
written declarations that they are leaving due to the odious
machinations of Bob Kohl . In Hallford's case he cites an
incident where Kohl demanded that Hallford remove an NEC
from her position. Do you hear the hoofbeats yet, Visage?
Was Kohl's reasoning due to the incompetence of the NEC?
Nope. Was it for a policy violation? Nope. It
was...incredibly, based upon Kohl's personal emnity towards
the NEC because she had refused to provide free boarding for
Kohl's horse. Due to Kohl's petty vindictiveness, Region 10
lost two of their number who had been graciously providing
echomail service to the other sysops.It is tempting to write
that for want of a horse house, his kingdom was lost.
When the rank odour of Kohl's weasellings became evident,
one of the Region10 NCs sent out netmail to the other NCs
inquiring whether they felt that Kohl still had their
confidence to continue as the R10C. Much hilarity ensued
when our very own Zorch Frezberg sent out a stern letter
threatening a policy complaint because he felt the inquiry
was posted from an ersatz address. Poor Zorch has no idea
how much his cheesy attempts to stifle the discussion added
to the legendary status of his buffoonery. Our prayers and
our edible underwear should go out to him, and may the farce
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be with him. With Bob Kohl residing at Satti's feet in the
Z1REGCON elflord echo, one can only imagine what the Great
Minds can conjure in their attempts to circle the wagons and
keep accountability at bay.
Speaking of Bob Satti (Z1C) I see that he is plagued by
embarrassing questions from Ward Dossche(Z2C) as to why Bob
is so opposed to crediting the Zone 1 sysops with any
intelligence. Dossche is asking that the selection of the
new IC follow the lines of representative democracy. The
prospect of allowing self-determination to the sysops must
truly horrify Satti for it would surely mean the end of his
own self-appointed reign.
For this week's Chautauqua I would like to lead off with a
quote from Thomas Paine taken from his "Rights of Man." For
those unaware of Paine, he was a pamphleteer whose work
"Common Sense" is judged to be the seminal work that spawned
the American Revolution. "Rights of Man" (pub. 1790) is
largely a response to Edmund Burke who had asserted the
Divine Rights of Kings as the guiding principal for
governance.
"It has been thought that a considerable advance towards
establishing the principles of Freedom, to say, that
government is a compact between those who govern and those
who are governed; but this cannot be true, because it is
putting the effect before the cause; for as man must have
existed before governments existed, there necessarily was a
time when governments did not exist, and consequently there
could exist no governors to form such a compact with. The
fact therefore must be, that the *individuals themselves*,
each in his own personal and sovereign right, *entered into
a compact with each other* to produce a government: and this
is the only mode in which governments have a right to arise,
and the only principle on which they have a right to exist."
I rather like this quote because if one were to substitute
either "Policy 4" or "the *Cs" for each instance of
"government" or "those who govern" it neatly points out the
philosophical fallacy upon which the Z1/RCs have relied for
their presumed powers. Policy4 was never ratified or voted
upon by the "governed" who happen to be sysops. Those who
assert that "we must follow policy" are certainly putting
the effect before the cause. If Policy4 has any legitimacy
(which it currently doesn't) it must manifest itself as a
compact between sysops. The self-perpetuating ZC/RC
appointment process is anathema to any notion of consensual
governance.
For those who joined Fidonet after its Halcyon days and
after the founding principles were hijacked by brigands, the
notion of reasserting the rights of sysops seems futile. I
would humbly suggest that if there is any futility, it is in
the expectation that sysops will collectively throw off
cowardice and tell the *C elflords that we are not *ruled*
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at their leisure. The egregious excesses of the likes of
Kohl, or the imperial pretentiousness of Swartz (R16C), only
obtain credence because it is assumed that they control the
nodelist. In point of fact, the nodelist and any rights to
it, are vested in the sysops whose names appear in it. There
is nothing on earth to prevent the nodelist from being
compiled, collated and distributed from sources other than
the ZC/RC's elflord lair. Just as they presume any power to
intrude into the affairs of sysops, the elflords can be made
irrelevant.
I must go Visage. Your secretary is ululating at high
decibels. Who would have thought that her humours would
reach critical mass simply because the herd of water buffalo
that you shipped to us have been stampeding all day. As the
good and decent people that we are, we should send her
immediately to Chadron, Nebraska.
Regards,
Doc Logger
Furlang Island, South Pacific
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Nodelist-statistics as seen from Zone-2 for day 093
By Ward Dossche, 2:292/854
ZC/2
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Future History
30 Apr 1998
Queens Day, Holland.
17 May 1998
Independence Day, Norway.
22 May 1998
Expo '98 World Exposition in Lisbon (Portugal) opens.
14 Sep 1998
Start of International BBS Week [thru 20 Sep 98].
22 Sep 1998
First anniversary of the FidoNews domain of www.fidonews.org.
1 Dec 1998
Fifteenth Anniversary of release of Fido version 1 by
Tom Jennings.
24 Jul 1999
XIII Pan American Games [through 8 Aug 99].
31 Dec 1999
Hogmanay, Scotland. The New Year that can't be missed.
1 Jan 2000
The 20th Century, C.E., is still taking place thru 31 Dec.
1 Jun 2000
EXPO 2000 World Exposition in Hannover (Germany) opens.
15 Sep 2000
Sydney (Australia) Summer Olympiad opens.
1 Jan 2001
This is the actual start of the new millennium, C.E.
-- If YOU have something which you would like to see in this
Future History, please send a note to the FidoNews Editor.
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FIDONET BY INTERNET
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This is a list of all FidoNet-related sites reported to the Editor as
of this appearance.
NOTE: I am looking for a comprehensive list of Telnet, VMODEM, BinkP,
Argus and other TCP/IP based nodes operating FidoNet on the
InterNet, either by Zone or worldwide, to post here as well.
- Ye Editor
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FidoNet:
Homepage http://www.fidonet.org
FidoNews http://www.fidonews.org [HTML]
http://209.77.228.66/fidonews.html [ASCII]
WWW sources http://www.scms.rgu.ac.uk/students/cs_yr94/lk/fido.html
FTSC page http://www.portal.ca/~awalker/ftsc.htm
Echomail http://www.portal.ca/~awalker/index.html
WebRing http://ddi.digital.net/~cbaker84/fnetring.html [TFN]
General Info http://owls.com/~jerrys/fidonet.html
Read Echoes http://newn.com/messages.html
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Zone 1: http://www.z1.fidonet.org
Region 10: http://www.psnw.com/~net205/region10.html
Region 11: http://oeonline.com/~garyg/region11/
Region 13: http://www.smalltalkband.com/st01000.htm
Region 14: [disappeared?]
Region 15: [disappeared?]
Region 16: http://www.tiac.net/users/satins/region16.htm
Region 17: http://www.portal.ca/~awalker/region17.htm
REC17: http://www.westsound.com/ptmudge/
Region 18: http://techstop.pdn.net/fido/
Region 19: http://www.compconn.net
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Zone 2: http://www.z2.fidonet.org
ZEC2: http://www.proteus.demon.co.uk/zec.htm
Zone 2 Elist: http://www.fbone.ch/z2_elist/
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Region 20: http://www.fidonet.pp.se (in Swedish)
Region 23: http://www.fido.dk/
Region 24: http://www.swb.de/personal/flop/gatebau.html (in German)
Region 25:
http://www.trak-one.co.uk/net254
Region 27: http://telematique.org/ft/r27.htm
Region 29: http://www.rtfm.be/fidonet/ (in French)
Region 30: http://www.fidonet.ch (in Swiss)
Region 33: http://www.fidoitalia.net (in Italian)
Region 34: http://www.pobox.com/cnb/r34.htm (in Spanish)
REC34: http://pobox.com/~chr
Region 36: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/7207/
Region 38: http://public.st.carnet.hr/~blagi/bbs/adriam.html
Region 41: http://www.fidonet.gr (in Greek and English)
Region 48: http://www.fidonet.org.pl
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Zone 3: http://www.z3.fidonet.org
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Zone 4: (not yet listed)
Region 90:
Net 904: http://members.tripod.com/~net904 (in Spanish)
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Zone 5: http://w3.eastcape.co.za/fidonet/index.htm
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Zone 6: http://www.z6.fidonet.org
Region 65: http://www.cfido.com/fidonet/cfidochina.html (China)
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(609)814-1978 fbn@cyberEnet.net
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* UUE = uuencode<->email packet transfers
* TX = TransX (Proprietary uuencode<->email packet transfer
software)
Posted on the 1st of every month in FN_SYSOP, R13SYSOP and Fidonews.
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FIDONEWS INFORMATION
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------- FIDONEWS MASTHEAD AND CONTACT INFORMATION -------
Editor: Zorch Frezberg
Editors Emeritii: Tom Jennings, Thom Henderson, Dale Lovell,
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more addresses:
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zorch@fidonews.org
zorch@qnis.net
zorch@eiv.com
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(Postal Service mailing address)
FidoNews Editor
P.O. Box 642
Fresno, CA 93709-0642
U.S.A.
voice: 1-209-446-9038 [voice mail = 'blind' numbers not returned]
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address. File-request FIDONEWS for the current Issue. File-request
FNEWS for the current month in one archive. Or file-request specific
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current year [8], i.e., FNWSJAN8.ZIP for all the Issues from Jan 98.
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STAR SOURCE for ALL Past Issues via FTP and file-request -
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Each yearly archive also contains a listing of the Table-of-Contents
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for that year's issues. The total set is currently about 13 Megs.
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The current week's FidoNews and the FidoNews public-key are now also
available almost immediately after publication on the FidoNews Editor
homepage on the World Wide Web at:
http://209.77.228.66/fidonews.html
There are also links there to jim barchuk's HTML FidoNews source and
to John Souvestre's FTP site for the archives. There is also an email
link for sending in an article as message text. Drop on over.
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is also posted twice a month into the PKEY_DROP Echo available on the
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or something to amuse ourselves
and create the requisite chaos."
-Tom Jennings
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