F I D O N E W S --       Volume 15, Number 16          20 April 1998
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                        Table of Contents
     1. EDITORIAL  ................................................  1
     2. COLUMNS  ..................................................  3
     3. COORDINATORS CORNER  ......................................  7
        Nodelist-statistics as seen from Zone-2 for day 107  ......  7
     4. WE GET EMAIL  .............................................  8
     5. ARTICLES  .................................................  9
        Sloppy Nodelist Maintenance  ..............................  9
     6. NOTICES  .................................................. 53
        Future History  ........................................... 53
     7. FIDONEWS PUBLIC-KEY  ...................................... 54
        FidoNews PGP Public-Key Listing  .......................... 54
     8. FIDONET BY INTERNET  ...................................... 55
     9. FIDONEWS INFORMATION  ..................................... 57

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                                 EDITORIAL
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     It's an interesting point of view to take...that a hobby should have
     as much fire and venom as real life politics...but then, I would
     suppose, that is the nature of the beast, no?

     Ward Dossche is now claiming that a majority of the ZCC is not in
     favor of last week's post of Bob Satti's election to the IC post.
     This on the heels of his announcement that Zone 2 would now go
     'its own way', since he was not himself elected to the IC post.

     Has everyone in Zone 2 been polled about this?  Or is Ward simply
     venting steam to save face?

     As well, the lockdown of the ZCC-PUBLIC echo continues...Ward has
     now directed all nodes carrying the echo to prevent messages that do
     not come from himself to be kept out of the echo.

     How..."democratic" a thinker he is.

     Perhaps, those in the "Zone 7" arena may wish to consider becoming
     their own Zone once again...perhaps.

     But, he did send me his "business card" to 'prove' he works where he
     claims to...I've already seen a variety of digital manipulations of
     the BMP file, some of which make me wonder what the original did
     look like.

     And, in Zone 1, the "Chaos Wars" continue, as local and regional
     problems are brought into Zone-wide echoes for both sympathy and
     attention, but with no real attempts at resolution at either the
     local or regional levels.

     In short, the "scorched earth" tactic I warned of earlier:

       "Destroy everything if you cannot control it for yourself."

     More's the pity when the well-meaning get caught up in the fervor and
     don't stop to consider what they've done...or how they've been used,
     over principles that they would not normally uphold.

     So long as the chaos continues, the justification for authority to be
     maintained is justified...that's a lesson learned long ago and in the
     history of more nations than in Zone 1 or Zone 2.

     The chaos continues to bolster the ravings of those promoting it, to
     show that the authority is overbearing in their attempts to maintain
     order...another lesson in elementary political science.

     The two sides stop, however, when those who have not taken sides come
     forward and take action on their own...and often to the tune of having
     to fight both sides at the same time, each trying to maintain its own
     agenda.
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     So...where do we go from here?

     Of note, as well, the submission of Macintosh documents from the
     Virtual Museum Project, will be delayed due to submission as .HQX
     documents, and should appear next week.  Last week's out-of-spec
     submission from RanD is included this week.

     -zf-

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                                  COLUMNS
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     Dear EditorBeing,

     This article is submitted by Doc Logger (163/110 or
     cherriot@magmacom.com) who was still puzzled by the strange,
     nocturnal transmissions from Bill Whitehouse. The last
     several messages from Bill contained what appears to be all
     of Machiavelli's "The Prince" translated into Swahili with
     generous insertions taken from Jane's Book of Weapons
     Systems. If Bill would ever indicate how to contact him, I'm
     sure that these messages could be properly deciphered.

     Roll da flic, Zorch....

     Dear Reverend Visage,

     I trust that Easter and Passover treated you kindly this
     year and that you weren't arrested again for trying to nail
     bunnies to a cross. The kindly editors at Swamp Swine
     Magazine were a tadge excited by the recent influx of petty
     cash vouchers from you. They particularly were concerned
     about the order for thirteen  tons of turnips, 3  Baywatch'
     tapes, and the complete song library of every bagpipe record
     ever released. Be careful Visage, I've never trusted turnips
     which pretty much is the theme of this week's article what
     with the usual elflord amusements.

     As I was writing last week's Snooz submission it occurred to
     me that the windmills that I tilt at may be expressing a
     minority position. In other words, I wondered if the
     majority of Fidoserfs truly were in love with Peefour,
     adored the RCs, and thought that Satti and representation
     were near relations. To do a baseline check of reality I
     wrote a survey questionnaire and, with the generous
     assistance of Malcolm Campbell (163/307) crash mailed it to
     a mailing list of nine hundred and fifty one Zone 1 sysops.
     On the list were *every* NC in the Zone, as well as a random
     selection of sysops from each net. As of this writing, the
     mail-out is almost complete and I've already started to
     receive impressive numbers of returns. Based on the trends
     so far, I discovered that I was wrong on a few issues (there
     are more than six readers of Fidonews) and  on others was
     understating the depths of disenchantment. When the process
     is finished I will collate the results and publish them in
     the Snooz. To those who have already responded, a thousand
     thank-yous. To those who received a survey, please respond -
     your input is valued. In the interests of fairness, I am
     seeking someone who is willing to "peer review" my summaries
     of the data and the conclusions that I will draw. In fact,
     I'll even extend the offer to the elflords who may wish to
     appoint someone to independently review the data.

     As mentioned previously in the Snooz, our odious buddy in
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     Region 10, Bob Kohl, has agreed to keep his mitts off the
     nodelistings of fidoserfs. However, in a petulant display of
     pique, Kohl has announced that he will attempt to replace
     Gerry Calhoun as NC of one of the nets. The RECs have
     started calling for Kohl's head on a platter because an
     R10EC hasn't been appointed yet. In an effort to avoid
     Kohl's imperialist ambitions, the RECs have established
     their own conference and seem to be united in adversity.
     Zorch has continued to slavishly support Kohl but has had to
     resort to increasingly more impressive leaps of logic and
     contortionate interpretations of policy. I think this may be
     one of those instances of where "my country, right or wrong"
     replaces common sense.

     I suspect you'll gag if I mention Bob Satti and common sense
     in the same sentence but you would admire the way he has
     been flinging his majestic manners at the serfs. For
     example, when asked whether a policy complaint appeal had
     been filed with him, he answered "I can neither confirm nor
     deny." Which begged the question whether this was just a
     perceptual handicap of his, or whether he truly was being
     nonsensical. In Satti's Kafkaesque world, those who are
     subject to policy complaints should be saved from the
     onerous task of raising a defense. After Satti weaseled on
     numerous requests to make the information public, he then
     headed for the bunker with the statement that he would only
     discuss the complaint with "those affected by it." I know
     that Dallas Hinton is probably hogging the Speak  N Spell so
     that Satti can't benefit from its use, but Satti said in his
     ruling: " I'm going  to lay out what I expect from net 163
     in the future.   Whether they like it or not, they aren't
     going to get any special treatment,  just because they
     mistakenly believe they aren't bound by policy 4.07. They
     shouldn't be getting special treatment from their NC or
     their RC, and they  won't get it from their ZC." Dooya
     suppose that on Satti's planet that his reference to Net163
     doesn't mean that the whole net might be subject to his
     totalist ambitions? Even more important, perhaps he should
     be told that we'd rather not bend over for his special
     treatment. Satti's foot stamping silliness is remarkable
     given that he is addressing an NC who has the full
     confidence of her net, in a Region where the RC was
     democratically elected in a sysop level vote. In terms of
     mandates, Satti doesn't have a pot to pee in. What Satti has
     also blithely ignored is that the policy complaint in
     question was filed by Martin Belcke's assistant RC - neither
     of whom have obtained an electoral mandate from their
     regions and both of whom are much loathed by their sysop
     peasantry. Also missing from Satti's ruling was a mention
     that he'd bothered to solve the original problem which was
     the inability of a Z6 sysop to find either an NC, RC or ZC
     in his zone who could offer an echomail feed and nodenumber.
     That net163 gave the sysop both a nodenumber and a mail feed
     was taken by the mouth breathing cretins like Gilmore as
     some sort of Fidocrime worthy of a policy complaint. As
     usual, these trolls have it ass-backwards. (Hint for
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     blondes: Yo, Mr. Belcke: Three of the nodes in your own net
     aren't running mailers. Perhaps before you set loose your
     trained seal on a nodelist hunt for Fidocriminals you oughta
     stoop  n scoop in your own yard.)

     What made Satti's eventual ruling into high farce was his
     claim that Net163 shouldn't have allowed a non-geographic
     node into their list without applying first for an
     exemption. Like, duh, we were asked for help, we gave it -
     immediately and effectively. That should have been the end
     of the story. The fact that we didn't raise our hands and
     ask Satti if we could go to the bathroom is just too darned
     bad. Based on his non-responsive behaviour in general, hell
     would have frozen over before we obtained permission to
     connect another sysop to Fidonet.

     For my Chautaqua this week I would like to lead off with a
     quote from Lewis H. Lapham who wrote in "Harper's Magazine":

     "The existence of a literature presupposes a literate and
     coherent public that has both the time to read and a need to
     take seriously the works of literary imagination. I'm not
     sure whether the United States ever had such a public;
     certainly it hasn't had one for the last thirty years. What
     we have instead is an opening-night crowd, astonished by
     celebrity and opulent spectacle, tolerating only those
     authors who present themselves as freaks and wonders and
     offer the scandal of their lives as proof of their art.
     Lacking even one critic whose judgement means anything, the
     management of the nation's literary affairs falls naturally
     into the hands of accountants and press agents - i.e.,
     life-forms native to the 'deserts of materialism'."

     Lapham's comments appeared in a sort of faux letter written
     to a cousin who was aspiring to be a writer. I liked the
     quote because it describes the same sort of limitations
     facing Fidonet. I was roundly toasted in netmail for my
     "elitism" in suggesting that sysops should strive for
     greater standards of literacy or readability in their
     messages. It is almost unkind to mention that most of these
     criticisms appeared in messages replete with bad grammar,
     incomplete sentences, and levels of spelling which would
     have embarrassed a Grade 4 student. The point is well-taken,
     however, because what I have been advocating is obviously
     unachievable. What I had put down to lack of effort in those
     who write endless quoted messages which lack substance is
     really a basic lack of skill.  The correspondent who wrote
     to me: "Why shood(sic) I write all fancy? Go f*ck your
     self." was probably expressing a majority opinion. I confess
     that I have no satisfactory response to the former assertion
     because once I try to reconcile what I think is supposed to
     be communication with a steadfast resolve *not* to
     communicate by my critic(s) - I find no common ground upon
     which to carry on the debate. What seems blindingly
     self-evident to me, is obviously a mere triviality to a
     great many others. I stand corrected. My thesis is
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     accordingly amended to the statement that echomail
     conferences are wastelands of gibberish because that is
     exactly what sysops want them to be.

     On that cheery note, Visage, I'll end this. I trust that you
     are being well cared for by your secretary whom I mailed to
     you via parcel post. I would have kept her in the office but
     I needed the extra space to accommodate the satellite
     required to tune into Zorch's transmissions from his planet.

     Regards,
     Doc Logger
     Furlang Island,
     South Pacific

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                            COORDINATORS CORNER
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     Nodelist-statistics as seen from Zone-2 for day 107
     By Ward Dossche, 2:292/854
        ZC/2

      +--------+-------+----------+----------+----------+----------+--+
      !Zone/Jul!Ndl-079!Nodel.-086!Nodel.-093!Nodel.-100!Nodel.-107!%%!
      +--------+-------+----------+----------+----------+----------+--+
      !  1/107 !  5578 ! 5512  -66! 5512    0! 5446  -66! 5379  -67!25!
      !  2/107 ! 14219 !14215   -4!14130  -85!14085  -45!14056  -29!66!
      !  3/093 !   523 !  520   -3!  517   -3!  507  -10!  507    0! 2!
      !  4/107 !   401 !  400   -1!  398   -2!  398    0!  393   -5! 2!
      !  5/093 !    87 !   87    0!   86   -1!   86    0!   86    0! 0!
      !  6/100 !   934 !  934    0!  908  -26!  920   12!  922    2! 4!
      +--------+-------+----------+----------+----------+----------+--+
               ! 21742 !21668  -74!21551 -117!21442 -109!21343  -99!
               +-------+----------+----------+----------+----------+

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                               WE GET EMAIL
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     Subject: Business-card
     Date: Thu, 16 Apr 98 16:10:27 +0200
     From: DOSSCHE Ward <Ward.Dossche@is.belgacom.be>
     To: <zorch@fidonews.org>

     Your Zorchness,

     Since you seem to doubt my position within the Belgacom-organisation,
     while at the same time demonstrating not to possess correct
     information, I am hereby for your re-assurance attaching my
     business-card.

     Take care,

     Ward Dossche
     Deputy-Director
     ---------------------------------------------
     BELGACOM nv/sa - HRL/SAE
     Emile Jacqmainlaan 177
     B-1030 Brussel
     Ph:             +32-(0)2-202.64.77
     Fx:             +32-(0)2-202.62.26
     Mobile: +32-(0)75-83.20.32

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                                 ARTICLES
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     Sloppy Nodelist Maintenance
     by RanD, 1:141/1030

     Here are the duplicate phone numbers in Z2 for Nodelist 100.
     Sloppy maintenance of the nodelist should never be an excuse
     for a coordinator. If it doesn't fit FTN then it shouldn't exist.
     It's simply just a fatter nodelist for everyone. There are over 800
     in Zone 2 this week, actually 865 or closer to 900.

     [*EDITOR'S NOTE* This article was reformatted to fit ARTSPEC.DOC
      margin standards. Due to the length of changes, it was held over
      from last week's issue.]

     31-30-2433428   777  TIP-TOP Gateway Guus Abelmann  Utrecht
     31-30-2433428   101  The QUIET MAN BBS  Guus Abelmann  Utrecht
     31-75-6400418   999  R28 Inbound Gateway  Jan Vermeulen  Wormerveer
     31-75-6400418   100  The Poor Man's Workstation  Jan Vermeulen
                          Wormerveer
     31-75-6704045   801  Chat OS2BBS     Lody Caenen     Koog aan de Zaan
     31-75-6704045   902  Echo Server 3   Lody Caenen     Koog aan de Zaan
     32-2-3322417    1    RC29    Margy Durant    Brussels
     32-2-3322417    766  The Marginal BBS        Margy Durant    Brussels
     32-2-3322417    999  R29 Igate       Margy Durant    Brussels B
     32-2-4115871    1    NC291   Marc Hennico    Brussels
     32-2-4115871    780  Zico BBS        Marc Hennico    Brussels
     32-2-4613525    709  RTV-SAT BBS     Pierre-Claude Demanet  Wemmel
     32-2-4613525    29   R29 BackBone    Pierre-Claude Demanet  Wemmel B
     32-2-7366347    725  WOPR'S BBS      Marc Buffet     Brussels
     32-2-7366347    3    NPC291  Marc Buffet     Brussels
     32-2-7681041    9702 In Limbo-ISDN   Kris Carlier    Tervuren
     32-2-7681041    702  In Limbo-on-linux-wheels  Kris Carlier  Tervuren
     32-3-2531085    900  A-Team Support  Flor Wauters    Burcht
     32-3-2531085    2    REC29   Flor Wauters    Burcht
     32-3-6446312    3    NPC292  Berry Van Hombeeck      Schoten
     32-3-6446312    901  PoliceNet Belgium  Berry Van Hombeeck  Schoten
     32-3-6446312    3    RPC29   Berry Van Hombeeck      Schoten
     32-3-8447229    2    NEC292  Luc Sienaert    Boom
     32-3-8447229    865  Lucas Visions   Luc Sienaert    Boom
     32-3-8447229    1    NC292   Luc Sienaert    Boom
     32-51-227497    2    NEC291  Rik D'haveloose Rumbeke
     32-51-227497    1003 Fridahor        Rik D'haveloose Rumbeke
     32-71-314240    3    NPC293  Olivier Collard Montignies S Sambre
     32-71-314240    3219 STGsoft HQ BBS  Olivier Collard Montignies
                          S Sambre
     32-71-886065    3212 Europa BBS      Jacques Theys   Sombreffe
     32-71-886065    2    NEC293  Jacques Theys   Sombreffe

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     32-87-788411    1    NC293   Yves Hennico    Montzen
     32-87-788411    4005 The Milkshake Board     Yves Hennico    Montzen
     33-1-42555918   213  BuBulle System  Romain Lacroix  Paris
     33-1-42555918   109  The LazyCat Shelter     Romain Lacroix  Paris
     33-2-47293385   777  TipTop France   Derrick Neve    Tours France
     33-2-47293385   999  IGate   Derrick Neve    Tours France
     34-91-3782005   79   Emporium Digital  Carlos Fernandez Sanz  Madrid
     34-91-3782005   999  I Gate  Carlos Fernandez Sanz   Spain
     34-91-5702555   12   Corben  Enrique Lopez   Madrid
     34-91-5702555   777  TipTop Spain    Enrique Lopez   Madrid
     351-34-25922    7    CET     Fausto Carvalho Aveiro
     351-34-25922    999  R36 IGate       Fausto Carvalho Portugal
     352-292199      25   CTServe Francois Thunus Luxembourg
     352-292199      999  Luxembourg Gate Francois Thunus Luxembourg
     352-317240      32   Global Delivery (tmp)  Guilain Devillers
                          Bertrange
     352-317240      33   Global Delivery 2  Guilain Devillers  Bertrange
     353-1-6211360   150  Nemesis' Dungeon  Andrew Mowatt  Dublin
     353-1-6211360   999  R26 IGATE Ireland  Andrew Mowatt  Dublin Ireland
     356-240563      10   The Gossip-Column..     Joe Conti       Hamrun
     356-240563      999  Malta InGate    Joe Conti       ML
     358-2-2407755   222  BBBS Help       Kim Heino       Turku
     358-2-2407755   222  BCG-Box Kim Heino       Turku
     358-9-27940040  76   Augsburg        Samuli Suonpaa  Jarvenpaa
     358-9-27940040  77   Augsburg        Samuli Suonpaa  Jarvenpaa
     358-9-62190856  10   Region 22 Echogate  Pertti Heikkinen  Helsinki
     358-9-62190856  856  Regulus ignicapillus  Pertti Heikkinen  Helsinki
     359-2-462861    27   SF&F    Grigor Gatchev  Sofia
     359-2-462861    27   SF&F    Grigor Gatchev  Sofia
     359-2-9814100   12   Sofia Net Mail Server   Dimitar Ganchev Sofia
     359-2-9814100   1    CITcom  Dimitar Ganchev Sofia
     359-2-9814100   3    CITnet  Dimitar Ganchev Sofia
     359-670-22486   999  Region 35 In Gate   *PLACEHOLDER*   Bulgaria
     359-670-22486   200  Post Systems BBS I  Kiril Yovtchevsky  Troyan
     36-53-320-748   1    BBSzolnok       Erno Petro      Cegled HUN
     36-53-320-748   999  Region 37 Inbound-Gate  Erno Petro  Cegled HUN
     370-1-392925    999  R47 InboundGate  Svajunas Laukineitis  Lithuania
     370-1-392925    2    B.I.S.  Svajunas Laukineitis    Siauliai
     371-3941176     2    Info-Shelter    Harry Bush      Iecava
     371-3941176     999  R51 IGate       Harry Bush      Iecava Latvia
     372-6411729     20   Goodwin BBS     Sulo Kallas     Tallinn
     372-6411729     999  Region 49 IGate Sulo Kallas     Tallinn
     380-622-322128  50   R46 Inbound     Anton Kuznetsov Donetsk
     380-622-322128  999  R46 InGate      Anton Kuznetsov UA & MO
     381-11-503036   100  Flash!  Sinisa Burina   Beograd
     381-11-503036   200  TIM 90 BBS      Sinisa Burina   Beograd SRJ
     381-11-503036   150  TIM 90 BBS      Sinisa Burina   Beograd
     386-63-442524   3100 BASS BBS        Aleksander Bastl        Celje
     386-63-442524   3200 BASS Classic    Zlatko Kropf    Celje
     386-63-442524   3104 BASS UUCP       Zlatko Kropf    Celje
     39-2-89150967   313  Che morte orrenda BBS   Happy Betty     Milano
     39-2-89150967   1    INTL BackBone   Happy Betty     Milano
     39-331-772362   101  <[ AmnesiA ]>   Angelo Besani   Gallarate VA
     39-331-772362   2    Italian BackBone  Angelo Besani  Gallarate VA
     39-444-440290   211  FarWest BBS     Ivo Dal Bosco   Montebello VI
     39-444-440290   10   INTL Backbone 333  Ivo Dal Bosco  Montebello VI
     39-445-639001   206  Bosco Atro BBS  Pietro Lancerotto  Malo (VI)
     39-445-639001   20   Italian Backbone 333 Pietro Lancerotto  Malo(VI)
     39-471-934-792  406  Alpecho 3       Anton Auer      BZ

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     39-471-934-792  401  Alpecho Anton Auer      BZ
     39-51-6236527   423  Active Line 2 SDS-RC    Mario Battacchi Bologna
     39-51-6236527   1    INTL BackBone 332       Mario Battacchi Bologna
     39-51-6236527   999  Italy I/O Gate  Mario Battacchi Italy
     39-51-6331730   402  ARCI Computer Club/LoraBBS Support #1
                          Marco Maccaferri        Bologna
     39-51-6331730   99   KidLink Gate    Marcello Ardini Bologna
     39-51-6446860   418  ArchiMedia      Marcello Ardini Bologna
     39-51-6446860   200  Regional Echo Coordinator  Marcello Ardini Italy
     39-521-941845   801  Banana's        Nicola Lottici  Parma
     39-521-941845   831  Banana's II     Nicola Lottici  Parma
     39-586-815000   716  IRENE BBS [PeaceLink]  Marino Marinelli
                          Livorno I
     39-586-815000   701  Spotlink        Gianluca Pisano Livorno I
     39-59-246112    504  ApWorks Alberto Pasquale        Modena I
     39-59-246112    101  ITABB1  Alberto Pasquale        Modena I
     39-59-246112    2    Italian BackBone 332  Alberto Pasquale  Modena I

     FIDONEWS 15-16               Page 12                  20 Apr 1998

     39-6-39721568   90   INTL BackBone 335       Cesare Tensi    Roma
     39-6-39721568   336  Sierra  Cesare Tensi    Roma
     39-6-66152114   900  Multinet Gate   Francesco Cipriani      Italy
     39-6-66152114   381  NoWayOut        Francesco Cipriani      Roma
     39-80-5230045   727  A.C.T.A.I. IHQ  Giuseppe Semeraro       Bari
     39-80-5230045   80   Italian BackBone 335  Giuseppe Semeraro  Bari
     39-85-4455650   680  Eagle's Nest  Stefano Brandimarte
                          Montesilvano Spiaggia PE I
     39-85-4455650   800  R33 Uucp Gate   Stefano Brandimarte     Italy
     39-931-833773   505  agnese.fidoitalia.net   Mario Mure'     Italy
     39-931-833773   533  Speed Of Life   Mario Mure'     Avola SR
     41-21-8025017   315  Gnothi Seauton #1(ZyxEli)  Michel Roch
                          Preverenges
     41-21-8025017   316  Gnothi Seauton #2  Michel Roch  Preverenges
     41-31-7320044   159  LOGiC PALACE #3 & #4  Roland Zbinden
                          Schwarzenburg
     41-31-7320044   762  LOGiC PALACE #3 & #4  Roland Zbinden
                          Schwarzenburg
     41-31-7320051   124  LOGiC PALACE #1 Roland Zbinden  Schwarzenburg
     41-31-7320051   706  LOGiC PALACE #1 Roland Zbinden  Schwarzenburg
     41-31-7320052   127  LOGiC PALACE #2 Roland Zbinden  Schwarzenburg
     41-31-7320052   727  LOGiC PALACE #2 Roland Zbinden  Schwarzenburg
     41-61-3832234   254  Ghost-System#2  Daniel Rueegg   Basel
     41-61-3832234   255  Ghost-System#3  Daniel Rueegg   Basel
     41-71-2237326   412  HSCB-System     Franz Willi     St.Gallen
     41-71-2237326   428  HSCB-System     Franz Willi     St.Gallen
     41-71-7225188   999  Region 30 Gate  Urban Oettli    Switzerland
     41-71-7225188   103  Orion System    Urban Oettli    Widnau
     41-91-6001221   160  Thunder Box     Manuel Wenger   Manno
     41-91-6001221   120  Thunder Box 1   Manuel Wenger   Manno
     41-91-6900482   261  Loce (ISDN)     Michele Lucini  Vacallo
     41-91-6900482   231  Loce    Michele Lucini  Vacallo
     420-67-523247   450  OS/2 Home BBS   Igor Bilyi      Zlin
     420-67-523247   45   T-Mail support  Igor Bilyi      Zlin
     421-7-5228198   666  Devious Suzi    Frank Petro     Bratislava
     421-7-5228198   19   Suzi    Matus Kral      Bratislava
     43-1-2188118    20   Peter's ISDN-Box        Peter Reinold   Vienna A
     43-1-2188118    18   Peter's Box     Peter Reinold   Vienna A
     43-1-4020227    2929 Big Daddy's[ISDN]  Christian Jelinek  Vienna A
     43-1-4020227    29   Big Daddy's     Christian Jelinek       Vienna A
     43-1-4065416    445  Black*Box@Fido Wien  Thomas Subotitsch  Vienna A
     43-1-4065416    444  Black*Box Wien  Thomas Subotitsch       Vienna A
     43-1-8150628    144  Lichtnetz Wien  Andre Eichner   Vienna A
     43-1-8150628    1440 Lichtnetz ISDN V34      Andre Eichner   Wien 12
     43-2236-47018   37   Chaos Iuris Austria BBS #1  Philipp Krone
                          Moedling A
     43-2236-47018   999  R31 (Austria) I-Gate  Philipp Krone  Moedling A
     43-463-5093335  5    deus ex machina II  Guenter Popp  Klagenfurt A
     43-463-5093335  7    Wasserturm BBS  Andreas Miklautsch    Villach A
     43-5577-62120   10   Holly's BBS [V34]  Patric Hollenstein
                          Lustenau A
     43-5577-62120   1101 Holly's BBS [ISDN] Patric Hollenstein
                          Lustenau A
     44-1202-895327  62   Neurology BBS(2)  Mike Way  Bournemouth UK
     44-1202-895327  61   Neurology BBS(1)  Mike Way  Bournemouth UK
     44-1563-524197  87   007 James Bond1 George Garven   Kilmarnock
     44-1563-524197  87   007 James Bond1 George Garven   Kilmarnock
     44-1563-572897  86   007 James Bond2 George Garven   Kilmarnock
     44-1563-572897  86   007 James Bond2 George Garven   Kilmarnock

     FIDONEWS 15-16               Page 13                  20 Apr 1998

     44-1563-572992  42   Dreamtime Sanctuary  Stewart Orr  Kilmarnock
     44-1563-572992  42   Dreamtime Sanctuary  Stewart Orr  Kilmarnock
     44-1698-305835  69   S.o.D BBS  Steven Winetrobe  Glasgow
     44-1698-305835  69   S.o.D BBS  Steven Winetrobe  Glasgow
     44-1745-354129  49   Coastmnl/UUCP Gateway  John Timmis  Prestatyn
     44-1745-354129  21   Coastline Communications 23:00-07:00
                          John Timmis   Prestatyn
     44-181-343-3419 153  Barney's Rubble  Jon Morby  London
     44-181-343-3419 25   R25 Fidonet/Demon Internet Gateway  postmaster
                          London UK
     44-181-686-2555 60   TRAK-ONE! [Mailer 1]   Dave Carter  Croydon
     44-181-686-2555 999  R25 I/OGate     Dave Carter     Croydon UK
     44-181-686-2555 10   REC25   Dave Carter     Croydon UK
     44-191-490-0327 18   Argus II        Graham Denman   Tyneside
     44-191-490-0327 17   Log-On-The-Tyne John Bone       Tyneside
     45-38161066     23   netcetera internet gate  Ask Bjoern Hansen
                          Copenhagen
     45-38161066     777  TipTop Gate DK  Ask Bjoern Hansen  Copenhagen
     45-38161066     10   Netcetera - internet node  Ask Bjoern Hansen
                          Copenhagen Denmark
     45-38161066     999  Region 23 Igate  Ask Bjoern Hansen   DK
     45-38337828     136  Abacus Mail and Data  Verner Jensen
                          Copenhagen NV Denmark
     45-38337828     135  Abacus Mail and Data  Verner Jensen
                          Copenhagen NV Denmark
     45-55461499     170  BABYLON BBS #2  Kenneth Joergensen  Fuglebjerg
     45-55461499     17   BABYLON BBS #1  Kenneth Joergensen  Fuglebjerg
     45-8710-0123    326  Vorup BBS line 3 of 3   Kim Bjoern  Randers
     45-8710-0123    226  Vorup BBS       Kim Bjoern      Randers DK
     45-8738-0241    223  Atlantis      Christian Laursen    Viby
     45-8738-0241    253  The Border Worlds  Christian Laursen     Viby
     46-270-427324   240  Eriksson's Bbs #2  Lars-Gunnar Eriksson  Mo
     46-270-427324   202  Eriksson's Bbs #4  Lars-Gunnar Eriksson  Mo
     46-31-7072810   179  boomer  Richard Lithvall        Goteborg
     46-31-7072810   178  boomer  Richard Lithvall        Goteborg
     46-8-55630103   329  Definite Solutions II   Mats Wallin   Stockholm
     46-8-55630103   999  R20     Mats Wallin     Sweden
     47-22053133     22   R21 Fidonet/Internet Gateway 2  Torfinn Nome
                          Oslo
     47-22053133     30   FIX     Torfinn Nome    Oslo NO
     47-67060007     20   BarCode Rune Johansen   Nittedal NO
     47-67060007     999  Norway InGate   Rune Johansen   N
     48-22-6286745   17   Seven [inet gate]       Lech Szychowski Warszawa
     48-22-6286745   48   R48 FidoNet<->InterNet Gateway [ZMH]
                          Lech Szychowski Warszawa PL
     48-22-8313212   700  R48 I/O Gateway [2200-0700]  Maciej Grzeszczuk
                          Warszawa PL
     48-22-8313212   70   R48 TCP/IP EchoMail HUB [2200-0700]
                          Maciej Grzeszczuk       Warszawa PL
     48-22-8339649   33   HoA/2   rafal wiosna    Warszawa
     48-22-8339649   999  R48 I/O Gateway [24h]  Rafal Wiosna  Warszawa PL
     48-22-8339649   777  R48 TipTop Gateway [24h] Rafal Wiosna
                          Warszawa PL
     48-32-2799602   106  Gate to MedicNet        Wojciech Apel   Gliwice
     48-32-2799602   3    PiK'us BBS      Wojciech Apel   Gliwice
     48-52-3400732   997  R48 PointList Keeper [2230-1000]
                          Lukasz Wasikowski       Bydgoszcz PL
     48-52-3400732   51   Rakis BBS [2230-1000]   Lukasz Wasikowski
                          Bydgoszcz PL
     48-71-3254857   18   AGS@home [2200-0600]  Aleksander Boron  Wroclaw

     FIDONEWS 15-16               Page 14                  20 Apr 1998

     48-71-3254857   25   Dracula FidoNet Node    Tomasz Bryja    Wroclaw
     48-77-562575    88   RoMan at Home [ZMH Only]  Roman Mandziejewicz
                          Opole
     48-77-562575    911  acting Regional EchoMail Coordinator [ZMH only]
                          Roman Mandziejewicz     Opole PL
     49-201-2806856  222  *Gero's-Castle-1*  Gero Dirk Lachner  Germany
     49-201-2806856  223  *Gero's-Castle-2*  Gero Dirk Lachner  Germany
     49-201-306904   300  SECOND SYSTEM LINE 1+2  Rainer Boesner  Essen
     49-201-306904   30   UUCP Gateway Second System    Rainer Boesner
                          Essen
     49-201-8496014  335  Straylight ISDN Stephan Floether        Essen
     49-201-8496014  334  Straylight      Stephan Floether        Essen
     49-201-8535023  2011 USS-Eslapion ISDN       Peter Prenting  Essen
     49-201-8535023  2012 USS-Eslapion    Peter Prenting  Essen
     49-201-8718822  385  XEER SPACE CENTER V34  Markus Buschkuehl  Essen
     49-201-8718822  384  XEER SPACE CENTER ISDN  Markus Buschkuehl  Essen
     49-201-8915005  311  UNKNOWN BBS LINE 1      Ralf Friedrich  Essen
     49-201-8915005  33   UNKNOWN BBS LINE 2-3    Ralf Friedrich  Essen
     49-202-4087281  1111 IfS Wuppertal   Guido Lobermann Wuppertal
     49-202-4087281  2    NEC BGL-NET     Guido Lobermann Wuppertal
     49-2051-955001  1    NC BGL-Net      Michael Smetten Velbert
     49-2051-955001  1011 The OrganPipe BBS I     Michael Smetten Velbert
     49-208-990814   382  INCOMPAG BBS LINE 2 (28.8) Joerg Habig
                          Muelheim-Ruhr
     49-208-990814   383  INCOMPAG BBS LINE 3 (ISDN) Joerg Habig
                          Muelheim-Ruhr
     49-208-990823   380  INCOMPAG BBS LINE 1 (28.8) Andreas Habig
                          Muelheim-Ruhr
     49-208-990823   381  INCOMPAG BBS LINE 4 (ISDN) Andreas Habig
                          Muelheim-Ruhr
     49-209-9772188  319  Source 'n Render BBS 1  Frank Schroeder
                          Gelsenkirchen
     49-209-9772188  320  Source 'n Render BBS (ISDN)     Frank Schroeder
                          Gelsenkirchen
     49-211-410418   1246 LeeteBrok BBS II  Matthias Tichy  Duesseldorf
     49-211-410418   1245 LeeteBrok BBS   Matthias Tichy  Duesseldorf
     49-211-489444   1273 2-Stein-Data-Panik <ISDN> Peter Kressig
                          Duesseldorf
     49-211-489444   1271 2-Stein-Data-Panik <analog> Peter Kressig
                          Duesseldorf
     49-211-591344   1204 The Blues Project #4  Wim Abels  Duesseldorf
     49-211-591344   1    NC 2433  Wim Abels  Duesseldorf
     49-211-591344   906  R24 Backbone Ring-0   Wim Abels  Duesseldorf
     49-211-591344   1201 The Blues Project #1  Wim Abels  Duesseldorf
     49-211-591355   1202 The Blues Project #2  Wim Abels  Duesseldorf
     49-211-591355   1205 The Blues Project #5  Wim Abels  Duesseldorf
     49-211-9233041  3    PLC 2433        Boris Huertgen  Duesseldorf
     49-211-9233041  1603 TK BBS #3 [ZYX/V34/X75] Boris Huertgen
                          Duesseldorf
     49-2131-769060  386  SKY BBS Line#2 *ISDN*   Erich Lorbert   Kaarst
     49-2131-769060  385  SKY BBS Erich Lorbert   Kaarst
     49-2137-13715   1616 Sunrise-BBS [v34/x75]   Michael Metz    Neuss
     49-2137-13715   1617 Sunrise-BBS [v34/x75]   Michael Metz    Neuss
     49-2151-938425  381  ODC/UDC feat. UDS Line2 Hans-Juergen Friedt
                          Krefeld
     49-2151-938425  380  ODC/UDC feat. UDS Line1 Hans-Juergen Friedt
                          Krefeld
     49-2151-945835  355  fo - (ringdown) frank obernbichler  uerdingen

     FIDONEWS 15-16               Page 15                  20 Apr 1998

     49-2151-945835  2    temp NEC 2433   frank obernbichler  uerdingen
     49-2152-3014    711  -~AC/DC=- (X75) Andreas Croonenbroeck   Kempen
     49-2152-3014    710  -~AC/DC=- (V34) Andreas Croonenbroeck   Kempen
     49-2156-952830  920  R24 Backbone Ring-0  Wilfried Hausmann  Willich
     49-2156-952830  352  WING Line#1 *ISDN*      Heike Hausmann  Willich
     49-2162-356071  419  Jogi's Box Line#2 *ISDN*  Juergen Meier  Viersen
     49-2162-356071  418  Jogi's Box      Juergen Meier   Viersen
     49-2162-961179  439  Garant`s - Heaven Line #2 *ISDN*
                          Klaus Dieter Orlowski              Viersen
     49-2162-961179  438  Garant`s - Heaven  Klaus Dieter Orlowski
                          Viersen
     49-2162-979048  423  Nightline-BBS Line #1   Norbert Hommen  Viersen
     49-2162-979048  424  Nightline-BBS Line #2   Norbert Hommen  Viersen
     49-2171-714928  1450 XIFLEX OPLADEN PORT2  Torsten Jaehnigen
                          Leverkusen
     49-2171-714928  1451 XIFLEX OPLADEN PORT3  Torsten Jaehnigen
                          Leverkusen
     49-2203-962029  351  TRADER`S Banquet Line 2 Joerg Naumann   Koeln
     49-2203-962029  353  TRADER`S Banquet Line 4 Joerg Naumann   Koeln
     49-2203-962029  350  TRADER`S Banquet Line 1 Joerg Naumann   Koeln

     FIDONEWS 15-16               Page 16                  20 Apr 1998

     49-2203-962144  41   Ulf's MINI-BBS  Ulf Borcherdt   Porz
     49-2203-962144  40   Ulf's MINI-BBS  Ulf Borcherdt   Porz
     49-221-9590902  562  EE-C&P Line-3   Elmar Elsner    Koeln
     49-221-9590902  561  EE-C&P Line-2   Elmar Elsner    Koeln
     49-2226-912645  2    EchoServer      Frank Zavelberg Bonn
     49-2226-912645  1011 Dolphin BBS Line 3+4 <33k6>  Frank Zavelberg
                          Rheinbach
     49-2232-211641  631  TopSpeed BBS ISDN       frank oebels    Bruehl
     49-2232-211641  630  TopSpeed BBS 28k8       frank oebels    Bruehl
     49-2246-912629  1    NC Rhein/Sieg Net  Norbert Muskatewitz  Lohmar
     49-2246-912629  600  NMI-Networker's Magic Island
                          Norbert Muskatewitz     Lohmar
     49-228-420114   775  Antarctica Line 2 iSDN  Jan Brunnert    Bonn
     49-228-420114   774  Antarctica Line 1 28k8  Jan Brunnert    Bonn
     49-228-432678   1028 Black Box Line3 <ISDN>  Andreas Simon   Bonn
     49-228-432678   1026 Black Box Line1 <V34>   Andreas Simon   Bonn
     49-228-7669912  753  TEAM TERMINATE GERMANY ISDN Andreas Streit  Bonn
     49-228-7669912  751  TEAM TERMINATE GERMANY 2  Andreas Streit  Bonn
     49-228-9767923  1111 ARKON BBS LINE2 ISDN    Volker Klumski  Bonn
     49-228-9767923  1110 ARKON BBS LINE1 V34     Volker Klumski  Bonn
     49-2309-409916  1    Elected NC-2448 Tobias Burchhardt       Waltrop
     49-2309-409916  400  WayForward BBS V34/ISDN * FastEcho HQ
                          Tobias Burchhardt       Waltrop
     49-231-332192   1166 Fawlty Towers   Michael Gierse  Dortmund
     49-231-332192   2    NEC 2444        Michael Gierse  Dortmund
     49-231-523413   1101 Painkiller BBS Line1    Michael Stuewe  Dortmund
     49-231-523413   1    NC 2444 Michael Stuewe  Dortmund

     FIDONEWS 15-16               Page 17                  20 Apr 1998

     49-231-523413   1145 Painkiller BBS backup   Michael Stuewe  Dortmund
     49-231-7246108  1401 BitMail Ralf Figge      Dortmund
     49-231-7246108  3    PLK2444 Ralf Figge      Dortmund
     49-231-9802041  1013 STARGATE BBS 4 ISDN     Udo Wilke       Dortmund
     49-231-9802041  1011 STARGATE BBS 2 V34+     Udo Wilke       Dortmund
     49-231-9822122  1007 das offene ohr  Johann H. Addicks       Dortmund
     49-231-9822122  98   UUCP    Johann H. Addicks       ftg.donut.de
     49-2324-23746   3033 Connection-BBS Line 3   Holger Birck   Hattingen
     49-2324-23746   3    PLK BGL-Net     Holger Birck    Hattingen
     49-2331-27403   5120 MEMOS BBS       Mehmet Atam     Hagen
     49-2331-27403   5215 MEMOS BBS       Mehmet Atam     Hagen
     49-234-382201   1635 Chaoslabs ISDN  Sascha Reetz    Bochum
     49-234-382201   1636 Chaoslabs Analog        Sascha Reetz    Bochum
     49-2361-66151   409  KAPA's Kramkiste II  Klaus Panzlaff
                          Recklinghausen
     49-2361-66151   410  KAPA's Kramkiste III  Klaus Panzlaff
                          Recklinghausen
     49-2365-395016  7000 Virtual Spot    Arndt Schroeder Marl
     49-2365-395016  7001 Virtual SPOT analog     Arndt Schroeder Marl
     49-2372-3327    2    NEC NET-2442    Klaus Jenrich   Hemer
     49-2372-3327    4016 Seals On The Sandbank   Klaus Jenrich   Hemer
     49-2378-910061  1    NC NET-2442     Lars Kieffer    Menden
     49-2378-910061  4004 SPACE-Bar       Lars Kieffer    Menden
     49-2404-969167  212  InnComm 2 V34   Roland Genzmer  Alsdorf
     49-2404-969167  213  InnComm 3 V34   Sascha Mueller  Alsdorf
     49-2404-969368  215  InnComm 5 ZYX   Sascha Mueller  Alsdorf
     49-2404-969368  216  InnComm 6 ISDN  Sascha Mueller  Alsdorf
     49-2404-969368  214  InnComm 4 ZYX   Peter Esser     Alsdorf
     49-241-86216    248  Scout Base 9 ISDN       Joerg Lipovcek  Aachen
     49-241-86216    249  Scout Base 9    Joerg Lipovcek  Aachen
     49-2432-908051  666  Infothek-Gerderath ISDN Peter Liebchen  Erkelenz
     49-2432-908051  601  Infothek-Gerderath      Peter Liebchen  Erkelenz
     49-2433-958003  603  AK 9 LINE II    Gerd Allwicher  Hueckelhoven
     49-2433-958003  602  AK 9 LINE I     Gerd Allwicher  Hueckelhoven
     49-2433-958027  624  AK 4 ISDN       Norbert Vetter  Hueckelhoven
     49-2433-958027  604  AK 4    Norbert Vetter  Hueckelhoven
     49-2434-928002  612  MiniBox ISDN-Line  Christian Behrendt  Wegberg
     49-2434-928002  611  MiniBox ZyX-Line  Christian Behrendt  Wegberg
     49-2461-345450  628  StarPoint Station       Mathias Bachner Juelich
     49-2461-345450  627  StarPoint Station       Dirk Paulsen    Juelich
     49-2601-912224  215  WESTERN FOREST  Bernd Wirz      WIRSCHEID/Ww
     49-2601-912224  15   WESTERN FOREST  Bernd Wirz      Wirscheid/Ww
     49-261-3002997  133  Blubber-Digitales       Rene Bredlau    Koblenz
     49-261-3002997  116  BLUBBER-Box     Rene Bredlau    Koblenz
     49-261-36439    137  GERMAN-CORNER-BBS ISDN  Heribert Grohs  Koblenz
     49-261-36439    136  GERMAN-CORNER-BBS       Heribert Grohs  Koblenz
     49-261-801231   127  HEAVENS PARADISE ISDN   Jens Finkemeyer Koblenz

     FIDONEWS 15-16               Page 18                  20 Apr 1998

     49-261-801231   126  HEAVENS PARADISE        Jens Finkemeyer Koblenz
     49-261-9114315  1    NC Mittelrhein-Netz     George Bruziks  Koblenz
     49-261-9114315  91   Schach-Cafe     George Bruziks  Koblenz
     49-261-9730671  165  Stony's Home II Stefan Stoner   Koblenz
     49-261-9730671  164  Stony's Home    Stefan Stoner   Koblenz
     49-2623-951013  210  Unikum-ISDN     Manfred Jackel  Siershahn
     49-2623-951013  201  Unikum BBS      Manfred Jackel  Siershahn
     49-2624-945065  35   WesterWald-Box  Dietmar Uhr   Hoehr Grenzhausen
     49-2624-945065  235  WesterWald-Box ISDN     Dietmar Uhr
                          Hoehr Grenzhausen
     49-2627-974542  122  Elle's Fischteich II (ISDN)    Markus Ellebrecht
                          Braubach
     49-2627-974542  118  Elle's Fischteich I  Markus Ellebrecht  Braubach
     49-2632-43428   501  Cyberspace Cafe II  Daniel Schlenzig  Andernach
     49-2632-43428   500  Cyberspace Cafe  Daniel Schlenzig  Andernach
     49-2632-949112  519  Digital Chaos   Judit Schlenzig Andernach
     49-2632-949112  520  The Chaos Production  Judit Schlenzig  Andernach
     49-2632-949119  571  Mautschi's Digital Drawbridge  Andreas Mautsch
                          Andernach
     49-2632-949119  524  Mautschi's Castle     Andreas Mautsch Andernach
     49-2632-953272  666  SPS-BOX Daniel Schilling     Andernach
     49-2632-953272  667  SPS-BOX ISDN    Daniel Schilling     Andernach
     49-2641-21135   302  AIRBASE #3  Michael Krischok  Bad Neuenahr
     49-2641-21135   301  AIRBASE #2 [ISDN] Michael Krischok  Bad Neuenahr
     49-2651-947061  506  Vulkan Box II   Michael Prause  Mayen
     49-2651-947061  505  Vulkan Box      Michael Prause  Mayen
     49-2652-938016  586  AFuBox Kruft ISDN  Hans-Juergen Barthen    Kruft
     49-2652-938016  585  AFuBox Kruft    Hans-Juergen Barthen    Kruft
     49-271-3359141  351  Micky's Box II ISDN (Diehl)     Michael Trautes
                          Siegen
     49-271-3359141  353  Micky's Box IV 28.8k (USR)      Michael Trautes
                          Siegen
     49-271-74780    350  Micky's Box I   Michael Trautes Siegen
     49-271-74780    3    PLC 2457        Michael Trautes Siegen
     49-2751-928022  1    NC 2457 Peter Kluge     Bad Berleburg
     49-2751-928022  110  backwoods       Peter Kluge     Bad Berleburg
     49-2752-478204  131  WIN MailMachine ISDN    Jost Henrich
                          Bad Laasphe
     49-2752-478204  130  WIN MailMachine Jost Henrich    Bad Laasphe
     49-2753-598011  107  EMS-Box III (ISDN) Hans Otte   Erndtebrueck
     49-2753-598011  106  EMS-Box  II (ZYX)  Hans Otte   Erndtebrueck
     49-2753-598283  116  shooting gallery ISDN   Wilhelm Marburger
                          Erndtebrueck
     49-2753-598283  115  shooting gallery   Wilhelm Marburger
                          Erndtebrueck
     49-2754-1082    121  Smurf-Box ISDN  Edgar Kuhly     Feudingen
     49-2754-1082    120  Smurf-Box       Edgar Kuhly     Feudingen
     49-281-3372301  1    NC Nieder(st)rhein-NET  Manfred Schramm Wesel
     49-281-3372301  501  Weseler Info Service    Manfred Schramm Wesel
     49-2841-97339   121  FALKE ISDN      Manfred Fahrig  47445 Moers
     49-2841-97339   120  FALKE   Manfred Fahrig  47445 Moers
     49-30-25299841  248  SPACEpoint BBS  Tim Mecking     Berlin
     49-30-25299841  247  SPACEpoint BBS  Tim Mecking     Berlin
     49-30-28598717  645  ULTRA - II Line #006    Bernd Schade    Berlin

     FIDONEWS 15-16               Page 19                  20 Apr 1998

     49-30-28598717  644  ULTRA - II Line #005    Bernd Schade    Berlin
     49-30-30099794  1024 Darkness BBS ISDN       Nikolai Cieslak Berlin
     49-30-30099794  1023 Darkness BBS #2 (22-5h) Nikolai Cieslak Berlin
     49-30-34702931  501  PsC ISDN        Frank Schmidt   Berlin
     49-30-34702931  502  PsC     Frank Schmidt   Berlin
     49-30-41777132  413  noman's land    Dennis Alexis Valin Dittrich
                          Berlin
     49-30-41777132  2    NEC     Dennis Alexis Valin Dittrich
                          Brandenburg-Netz
     49-30-78702844  282  BCSS BBS II (Mo&Do)     Boris Arndt     Berlin
     49-30-78702844  232  BCSS BBS  I (Di Mi Fr Sa So)    Boris Arndt
                          Berlin
     49-30-94113283  1    NC      Uwe Uhlemann    Brandenburg-Netz
     49-30-94113283  532  ORKUS   Uwe Uhlemann    Berlin
     49-33235-20023  1    NC      Frank Neubauer  Friesack
     49-33235-20023  709  Havelland II    Frank Neubauer  Friesack
     49-33235-20023  708  Havelland I     Frank Neubauer  Friesack
     49-33433-785    931  DriveIn BBS #2  Mario Boerner   Waldsieversdorf
     49-33433-785    930  DriveIn BBS #1  Mario Boerner   Waldsieversdorf
     49-335-504706   3    PLK     Steffen Blum    Brandenburg-Netz
     49-335-504706   901  Bummi-Box       Steffen Blum    Frankfurt/Oder
     49-335-504706   910  Bummi-Box       Steffen Blum    Frankfurt/Oder
     49-3379-379244  903  R24 Backbone Ring-0     Karsten Ebeling Berlin
     49-3379-379244  299  /nul/dev isdn AVM B1    Karsten Ebeling Mahlow
     49-341-2515394  501  NightFox BBS 28.8       gerd troeger    Leipzig
     49-341-2515394  3    PLC 249 Gerd Troeger    Leipzig
     49-341-2530392  502  NightFox BBS 14.4       gerd troeger    Leipzig
     49-341-2530392  1    NC 249  Gerd Troeger    Leipzig
     49-341-6884837  1171 Reudnitzer BBS ISDN     Torsten Schulz  Leipzig
     49-341-6884837  1170 Reudnitzer BBS  Torsten Schulz  Leipzig
     49-34956-21024  1131 Zoerbiger Mailbox ISDN  Michael Fiedler Zoerbig
     49-34956-21024  1130 Zoerbiger Mailbox       Michael Fiedler Zoerbig
     49-35324-38445  7031 Ring-Box        Dirk Richter    Crinitz
     49-35324-38445  7030 Ring-Box        Dirk Richter    Crinitz
     49-361-7467147  1040 Highnuu BBS 1   Andreas Koschel Erfurt
     49-361-7467147  1041 Highnuu BBS 2   Andreas Koschel Erfurt
     49-365-7106038  4132 IRATA #3 ISDN   Michael Pilz    GERA
     49-365-7106038  4130 IRATA #1        Michael Pilz    GERA
     49-3677-203085  1    NC 248  Marcel Becker   Ilmenau
     49-3677-203085  4004 TTB     Marcel Becker   Ilmenau
     49-3677-790861  6302 Elgersburg BBS 1+2  Erik Sturm   Elgersburg
     49-3677-790861  6301 Elgersburg BBS 1+2  Erik Sturm   Elgersburg
     49-371-5380010  410  SPECIAL-Box     Jens Hofbauer   Chemnitz
     49-371-5380010  5080 SPECIAL-Box I   Jens Hofbauer   Chemnitz
     49-3744-24296   5141 Auerbach/Vogtland 2  Joachim Mueller
                          Auerbach/Vogtland
     49-3744-24296   5140 Auerbach/Vogtland 1  Joachim Mueller
                          Auerbach/Vogtland
     49-381-6865817  9207 HANSE   Michael Behrens Rostock
     49-381-6865817  9206 HANSE   Michael Behrens Rostock
     49-40-22715794  5449 Starbase 69 ISDN        Sven Ohlsen     Hamburg
     49-40-22715794  5448 Starbase 69     Sven Ohlsen     Hamburg
     49-40-22741192  5889 TIRO    Hinrich Donner  Hamburg
     49-40-22741192  77   WiPoST-Gate     Hinrich Donner  Hamburg
     49-40-35710946  5412 FlashLand I     Frank Siedlaczek        Hamburg
     49-40-35710946  5413 FlashLand II ISDN  Frank Siedlaczek  Hamburg
     49-40-73670077  5110 BrainPain System#1 ISDN Andreas Pruessmann
                          Hamburg

     FIDONEWS 15-16               Page 20                  20 Apr 1998

     49-40-73670077  5111 BrainPain System#2 V34  Andreas Pruessmann
                          Hamburg
     49-40-78070441  901  Rookie BBS      Mirko Ruetz     Hamburg
     49-40-78070441  5703 Rookie BBS 3    Mirko Ruetz     Hamburg
     49-4101-553132  5218 Deepcore/2 #3 ISDN   Joerg Dreffein  Pinneberg
     49-4101-553132  5217 Deepcore/2 #2   Joerg Dreffein  Pinneberg
     49-4102-30780   4148 Petra #4        Peter Kloss     Ahrensburg
     49-4102-30780   4146 Petra #2        Peter Kloss     Ahrensburg
     49-4102-821265  4147 Petra #3        Peter Kloss     Ahrensburg
     49-4102-821265  4145 Petra #1        Peter Kloss     Ahrensburg
     49-421-1654391  3261 Heidi's Radio BBS       Frank Heider    Bremen
     49-421-1654391  3260 Heidi's Radio BBS       Frank Heider    Bremen
     49-421-373835   3195 ISD b r e m     Werner Willker  Bremen
     49-421-373835   3190 Starwire WWT    Werner Willker  Bremen
     49-421-3961866  230  Speakers Corner (ISDN)  Jens Wefer      HB
     49-421-3961866  231  Speakers Corner Jens Wefer      HB
     49-421-425193   3121 BMS ISDN        Gerold Diers    Bremen

     FIDONEWS 15-16               Page 21                  20 Apr 1998

     49-421-425193   3120 BMS     Gerold Diers    Bremen
     49-421-4329812  3220 Ground Zero     Andre Barthels  Bremen
     49-421-4329812  3221 Ground Zero     Andre Barthels  Bremen
     49-421-6918193  3096 FLATLINE        Stefan Rueckwald        Bremen
     49-421-6918193  3095 FLATLINE        Stefan Rueckwald        Bremen
     49-4221-978045  3106 Maus HB ISDN    Holger Wulfers  Delmenhorst
     49-4221-978045  3105 Maus HB Holger Wulfers  Delmenhorst
     49-431-3292929  2189 Kruemel Boks! ISDN  Christian von Busse
                          Altenholz
     49-431-3292929  2188 Kruemel Boks!  Christian von Busse  Altenholz
     49-431-35881    1007 apropOS/2 #2    Andreas Harm Thordsen   Kiel
     49-431-35881    904  R24 Backbone Ring-0  Andreas Harm Thordsen  Kiel
     49-431-7209361  2119 BLIZZARD II     Michael Rittweger       Kiel
     49-431-7209361  2120 BLIZZARD I      Michael Rittweger       Kiel
     49-4349-919968  2125 BBZ Service Box ISDN    Thorsten Boente
                          Daenischenhagen
     49-4349-919968  2126 BBZ Service Box Thorsten Boente
                          Daenischenhagen
     49-4351-712318  2127 TLC 1 [X.75]    Joerg Doering   Eckernfoerde
     49-4351-712318  2128 TLC 2 [ZYX]     Joerg Doering   Eckernfoerde
     49-4401-938801  6032 WESER BBS       Claus Plachetka Brake
     49-4401-938801  6030 WESER BBS       Claus Plachetka Brake
     49-4403-64490   3    PLK 2426        Axel Merkel     Bad Zwischenahn
     49-4403-64490   2050 Dagobah System  Axel Merkel     Bad Zwischenahn
     49-441-591798   2060 Wiesel  Klaas Hamboerger        Oldenburg
     49-441-591798   2061 Wiesel ISDN     Klaas Hamboerger    Oldenburg
     49-441-9350731  2271 OL-MEDIC BBS    Cord Moeller    Oldenburg
     49-441-9350731  2270 OL-MEDIC BBS    Cord Moeller    Oldenburg
     49-441-9558844  2111 CONNECTION Funk Port  Uwe Spiekermann  Oldenburg
     49-441-9558844  2110 CONNECTION Funk Port  Uwe Spiekermann  Oldenburg
     49-441-9570436  2161 Qumran Cave 2   Andreas Rehberg Oldenburg
     49-441-9570436  99   Mailserver Weser Ems  Andreas Rehberg  Oldenburg
     49-441-9570436  2160 Qumran Cave 1   Andreas Rehberg Oldenburg
     49-441-9571912  2125 ABIS    Andreas Braukmann       Oldenburg
     49-441-9571912  98   Network2426-Internet-Gateway  Andreas Braukmann           Oldenburg
     49-441-9736289  2240 Anti-Virus-News Thomas Moenkemeier   Oldenburg
     49-441-9736289  2244 Anti-Virus-News Thomas Moenkemeier    Oldenburg
     49-461-310843   1019 Black Data Factory BBS  Elmar Forberger
                          Flensburg
     49-461-310843   1018 Black Data Factory BBS  Elmar Forberger
                          Flensburg
     49-4733-920152  5051 Brummbaer-BBS-II   Sven Ellmers    Butjadingen
     49-4733-920152  5052 Brummbaer-BBS-III  Sven Ellmers    Butjadingen
     49-4773-891072  206  Tmm (ISDN)      Marc Albrecht   Lamstedt
     49-4773-891072  205  Tmm     Marc Albrecht   Lamstedt
     49-4855-10104   3001 CERES #2 ISDN   Egbert Antoine  Brunsbuettel
     49-4855-10104   3002 CERES   Egbert Antoine  Brunsbuettel
     49-4961-208-0   4003 Crystal Palace ISDN  Uwe Boettjer   Papenburg
     49-4961-208-0   4001 Crystal Palace  Uwe Boettjer    Papenburg
     49-4961-5645    1    NC 2426 Heinz-Bernd Albers      Papenburg
     49-4961-5645    4015 HB [00:00-06:00]   Heinz-Bernd Albers  Papenburg
     49-4971-912005  5091 KEOK BBS Line II        Hayen Iggena    Esens
     49-4971-912005  5092 KEOK BBS Line III       Hayen Iggena    Esens
     49-511-429023   33   mediX I Viktor Kafke    Hannover
     49-511-429023   80   MedNetGate      Viktor Kafke    Hannover
     49-511-429023   1    Temp NC Viktor Kafke    Hannover
     49-511-6063018  1001 N.C.P. 2-3      peter rohde     Hannover
     49-511-6063018  912  R24 Backbone Ring-0     peter rohde     Hannover
     49-511-713986   2    REC Germany     Andreas Berge   GER

     FIDONEWS 15-16               Page 22                  20 Apr 1998

     49-511-713986   40   Aigyptos BBS    Andreas Berge   Hannover
     49-5201-665301  821  -= T.I.S =- Line II [ISDN]    Thomas Hermbecker           Halle Westfalen
     49-5201-665301  820  -= T.I.S =- Line I [USR V34]  Thomas Hermbecker           Halle Westfalen
     49-5222-282833  2    NEC 2432        Andreas Capito  Bad Salzuflen
     49-5222-282833  715  Silver Cloud BBS   Andreas Capito  Bad Salzuflen
     49-5232-987023  770  OWL-United M2-BBS Line 1 <ISDN> Ulrich Moennekes            Lage
     49-5232-987023  771  OWL-United M2-BBS Line 2 <28.8> Ulrich Moennekes            Lage
     49-5232-990831  1    NC 2432 Klaus Koeppen   Detmold
     49-5232-990831  705  Octopus I       Klaus Koeppen   Detmold
     49-5265-99026   776  OWL-United Landscape >ISDN<  Gerald Kirschke
                          Doerentrup
     49-5265-99026   777  OWL-United Landscape >19z2<  Gerald Kirschke
                          Doerentrup
     49-531-329002   577  8bbs    Marius Baller   Braunschweig
     49-531-329002   575  8bbs    Marius Baller   Braunschweig
     49-541-27578    150  Life of Brain #1-#3  Norbert Doetsch  Osnabrueck
     49-541-27578    1    NC      Norbert Doetsch Osnabrueck
     49-5524-931360  224  Travelbit       Andreas Weiss   Bad Lauterberg
     49-5524-931360  226  Travelbit ISDN  Andreas Weiss   Bad Lauterberg
     49-5624-925371  706  Fantasy Factory Jochen Vieh     Bad Emstal
     49-5624-925371  716  Fantasy Factory Jochen Vieh     Bad Emstal
     49-571-5085011  243  PORTA BBS ISDN (s0)     Sven Dueker
                          Porta Westfalica
     49-571-5085011  905  R24 Backbone Ring-0     Sven Dueker
                          Porta Westfalica
     49-5731-3325    216  Ellermann's BBS II  Carsten Ellermann
                          Bad Oeynhausen
     49-5731-3325    3    PLK 2432  Carsten Ellermann  Bad Oeynhausen
     49-581-9488825  6220 THE ZOO #2 ISDN Achim Sturm     Uelzen
     49-581-9488825  6222 THE ZOO #4 ANALOG       Achim Sturm     Uelzen
     49-5882-9301    9310 USER'S INN BBS I        Matthias Schulz Gorleben
     49-5882-9301    9311 USER'S INN BBS II       Matthias Schulz Gorleben
     49-6023-970833  6322 SFCD-Mitte (ISDN)       Martin Kempf    Alzenau
     49-6023-970833  6311 SFCD-Box Mitte  Martin Kempf    Alzenau
     49-6032-971085  365  Erster Connect BN II  Marcus Schneider
                          Bad Nauheim
     49-6032-971085  355  Erster Connect BN       Marcus Schneider
                          Bad Nauheim
     49-6105-921005  580  DIDDI'S DEN FFM 1       Joachim Sonnabend
                          Moerfelden-Walldorf
     49-6105-921005  581  DIDDI'S DEN FFM 2       Joachim Sonnabend
                          Moerfelden-Walldorf
     49-611-9721113  2136 NeuroNet BBS Line 2   Manfred Kucera  Wiesbaden
     49-611-9721113  2135 NeuroNet BBS Line 1   Manfred Kucera  Wiesbaden
     49-6131-477885  222  PRECiSION BBS (ISDN)   Florian Caspar  Mainz
     49-6131-477885  223  PRECiSION BBS   Florian Caspar  Mainz
     49-6131-891044  5585 Michael's Datenschleuder   Michael Piroth  Mainz
     49-6131-891044  5546 Michael's Datenschleuder  Michael Piroth  Mainz
     49-6131-941520  112  The .45er InfoSystems BBR  Henry Heller    Mainz
     49-6131-941520  910  R24 Backbone Ring-0  Henry Heller    Mainz
     49-6131-941520  113  The .45er (ISDN)  Henry Heller    Mainz
     49-6131-968108  150  Bedrock City (ISDN)   Olaf Kossok   Mainz
     49-6131-968108  139  Bedrock City (ZyXEL)  Olaf Kossok   Mainz
     49-6150-189831  152  AC Online System III  Michael Ott   Weiterstadt
     49-6150-189831  150  AC Online System I   Michael Ott   Weiterstadt
     49-6150-189832  153  AC Online System IV  Michael Ott   Weiterstadt
     49-6150-189832  151  AC Online System II  Alexander Wuttke
                          Weiterstadt
     49-6150-990033  561  Mike's Box ISDN Michael Reichartz   Erzhausen

     FIDONEWS 15-16               Page 23                  20 Apr 1998

     49-6150-990033  560  Mike's Box Zyxel  Michael Reichartz  Erzhausen
     49-6150-990257  510  UFOS/2 BBS Line 1  Uwe Friedrich  Darmstadt
     49-6150-990257  512  UFOS/2 BBS Line 3  Uwe Friedrich  Darmstadt
     49-6151-788333  32   Infobox Darmstadt  Matthias Heilmann  Darmstadt
     49-6151-788333  320  Infobox Darmstadt  Matthias Heilmann  Darmstadt
     49-6172-983073  357  FRITBOX 1       Soenke Dirksen  Bad Homburg
     49-6172-983073  358  FRITBOX 2       Soenke Dirksen  Bad Homburg
     49-6181-441485  6254 STARLINE-BOX I  Jose Henriques  Maintal
     49-6181-441485  6255 STARLINE-BOX II Jose Henriques  Maintal
     49-6233-366088  9925 TIMEBOX ISDN  Manfred Ohlinger  Frankenthal
     49-6233-366088  9918 TIMEBOX Manfred Ohlinger        Frankenthal
     49-6235-959076  9909 JJ's Inn [1+2]  Joachim Joa     Schifferstadt
     49-6235-959076  9    JJ's Inn FBB    Joachim Joa     Schifferstadt
     49-6235-98431   9911 Lemmis System 1 Matthias Lamm   Schifferstadt
     49-6235-98431   1    NC Rhein-Neckar Connection  Matthias Lamm
                          Germany
     49-6257-962611  1000 Steigerts   Harald Hertlein  Seeheim-Jugenheim
     49-6257-962611  999  Steigerts   Harald Hertlein  Seeheim-Jugenheim
     49-6258-972140  46   ADLATUS Line 3  Rudolf Heeb     Biebesheim
     49-6258-972140  44   ADLATUS Line 1  Rudolf Heeb     Biebesheim
     49-6258-972141  43   ADLATUS Line 4  Rudolf Heeb     Biebesheim
     49-6258-972141  45   ADLATUS Line 2  Rudolf Heeb     Biebesheim
     49-6297-95035   417  Willys Mail     Willy Klotz     Ravenstein
     49-6297-95035   418  Willys Mail     Willy Klotz     Ravenstein
     49-6403-4871    121  Black Gate BBS[ISDN]    Joerg Rieger    Linden
     49-6403-4871    120  Black Gate BBS[ELSA]    Joerg Rieger    Linden
     49-6403-92327   99   I/O Gate Germany Mitte  Andreas Soehnel
                          Huettenberg
     49-6403-92327   888  T-GATE  Andreas Soehnel  Huettenberg
     49-6403-92327   908  R24 Backbone Ring-0  Andreas Soehnel
                          Huettenberg
     49-6403-92327   5    FORMICA-BBS #1 [X2 HOST]  Andreas Soehnel
                          Huettenberg
     49-6403-96187   116  Carstens Datenkiste III [Teles S0]
                          Carsten Ruckelshausen   Pohlheim
     49-6403-96187   115  Carstens Datenkiste II  Carsten Ruckelshausen
                          Pohlheim
     49-641-48998    124  Chaos Box ISDN  Manfred Orth    Pohlheim
     49-641-48998    123  Chaos Box       Manfred Orth    Pohlheim
     49-641-960229   131  Wuppi Box[TELES]        Jens Fudickar   Giessen
     49-641-960229   130  Wuppi-Box       Jens Fudickar   Giessen
     49-641-9709938  128  WOTEC[TELES]    Wolfram Schober Giessen
     49-641-9709938  108  SubHub Heilenz  Wolfram Schober Giessen
     49-641-9709938  127  WOTEC[USR]      Wolfram Schober Giessen
     49-6421-94039   636  Die Kleine Box 2  Ulrich Butterweck  Marburg
     49-6421-94039   637  Die Kleine Box 3  Ulrich Butterweck  Marburg
     49-6429-92029   600  MENNEs Box      Manfred Weber   Stadtallendorf
     49-6429-92029   1    NC 2435 Manfred Weber   Stadtallendorf
     49-6435-92056   211  stOne's BBS ISDN  Ralf Steinbrink
                          56414 Herschbach/oWW
     49-6435-92056   212  stOne's BBS  Ralf Steinbrink
                          56414 Herschbach/oWW
     49-6449-92066   411  Wolfmania Line 2[ISDN]  Wolfgang Blecker
                          Greifenthal
     49-6449-92066   412  Wolfmania Line 3[USR Courier I] Wolfgang Blecker
                          Greifenthal
     49-6449-921016  999  Mail-Server 2435  Wolfgang Blecker  Greifenthal
     49-6449-921016  413  Wolfmania Line 4+5[ISDN]    Wolfgang Blecker
                          Greifenthal

     FIDONEWS 15-16               Page 24                  20 Apr 1998

     49-6695-7215    2    NEC 2435        Karsten Kalweit Jesberg
     49-6695-7215    615  Raveland 1      Karsten Kalweit Jesberg
     49-671-74048    422  The SHOGGOTH (ISDN) Marco Keuthen  Bad Kreuznach
     49-671-74048    1    NC  Marco Keuthen   Bad Kreuznach
     49-671-74048    420  The SHOGGOTH (ELSA VFC) Marco Keuthen
                          Bad Kreuznach
     49-671-8961192  421  The SHOGGOTH (ISDN)  Marco Keuthen
                          Bad Kreuznach
     49-671-8961192  426  The SHOGGOTH (ZYXEL) Marco Keuthen
                          Bad Kreuznach
     49-6841-12767   1    NC NET 245      Werner Cappel   Homburg
     49-6841-12767   2    NEC NET 245     Werner Cappel   Homburg
     49-6841-12767   6801 FIBBS II        Werner Cappel   Homburg Saar
     49-69-4930830   1    NC 2461 Robert Dahlem   Frankfurt
     49-69-4930830   332  Radio Bornheim  Robert Dahlem   Frankfurt
     49-69-94506210  316  LUMMERLAND #2 ISDN   Stefan Schlamp  Frankfurt
     49-69-94506210  315  LUMMERLAND #1 V34    Stefan Schlamp  Frankfurt
     49-69-98340540  1120 AMBROSIA        Ulrich Schroeter     Offenbach
     49-69-98340540  3    PLC 2:244       Ulrich Schroeter     Offenbach
     49-69-98340540  1    Temp-NC 2:244   Ulrich Schroeter     Offenbach

     FIDONEWS 15-16               Page 25                  20 Apr 1998

     49-7021-978891  3031 Protest-BBS II  Reimar Krauss   Notzingen
     49-7021-978891  3032 Protest-BBS III Reimar Krauss   Notzingen
     49-7031-221736  6012 HighEnd BBS     Thomas Berres   Boeblingen
     49-7031-221736  515  HighEnd BBS     Thomas Berres   Boeblingen
     49-7031-287353  1008 Programmers Corner BB  Andreas Neukoetter
                          Boeblingen
     49-7031-287353  1802 Programmers Corner BB  Andreas Neukoetter
                          Boeblingen
     49-7031-720512  1819 Salmanassar ISDN  Carsten Ellwart  Boeblingen
     49-7031-720512  1809 Salmanassar     Carsten Ellwart Boeblingen
     49-7031-730536  2401 Minibox Manfred Tessarrek       Sindelfingen
     49-7031-730536  2417 Minibox Manfred Tessarrek       Sindelfingen
     49-7033-544915  1820 Quattro ISDN    Jens Kretzschmar    Grafenau
     49-7033-544915  1801 Quattro Jens Kretzschmar        Grafenau
     49-7042-80100-21  6585  Foto-Box   Rudolf Krauth   Illingen
     49-7042-80100-21  585   Foto-Box    Rudolf Krauth   Illingen
     49-7042-80100-41  6586  Foto-Box ISDN [AVM]  Rudolf Krauth   Illingen
     49-7042-80100-41  586   Foto-Box ISDN [AVM]  Rudolf Krauth   Illingen
     49-7042-940905  510  USER'S INN      Guenther Kreuz  Muehlacker
     49-7042-940905  6510 USER'S INN      Guenther Kreuz  Muehlacker
     49-7042-940906  511  USER'S INN ISDN [Teles] Guenther Kreuz
                          Muehlacker
     49-7042-940906  6511 USER'S INN ISDN [Teles] Guenther Kreuz
                          Muehlacker
     49-711-2261179  1025 HAL 9000        Harald Gerber   Stuttgart
     49-711-2261179  1026 HAL 9000        Harald Gerber   Stuttgart
     49-711-523188   1214 FRANK ISDN      Frank Mueller   Stuttgart

     FIDONEWS 15-16               Page 26                  20 Apr 1998

     49-711-523188   1213 FRANK ZYX19     Frank Mueller   Stuttgart
     49-711-6362252  1612 PANDORA's BOX ZYX   Thorsten Koch  Stuttgart
     49-711-6362252  1613 PANDORA's BOX ISDN  Thorsten Koch  Stuttgart
     49-711-7802520  1202 Zenica ISDN     Axel Haag       Stuttgart
     49-711-7802520  1203 Zenica ISDN     Axel Haag       Stuttgart
     49-711-9018513  1221 FLG BBS ISDN    Josef Plawner   Vaihingen
     49-711-9018513  1220 FLG BBS Josef Plawner   Vaihingen
     49-711-9348045  2    NEC 246 Andreas Schoeller       Denkendorf
     49-711-9348045  1111 NFS/2   Andreas Schoeller       Denkendorf
     49-711-9389202  1459 Tequila Sunrise ISDN  Wolfgang Schlabschi
                          Esslingen
     49-711-9389202  1453 Tequila Sunrise Wolfgang Schlabschi
                          Esslingen
     49-711-9517957  2516 Chaos-Box Line 2  Bernd Lipp  Fellbach
     49-711-9517957  2515 Chaos-Box Line 1  Bernd Lipp  Fellbach
     49-7131-254057  142  ...und ueberhaupt!? II Tobias Schmidt  Heilbronn
     49-7131-254057  1    NC 2474 Tobias Schmidt  Heilbronn
     49-7131-941134  1190 FILES.BBS 1 [ISDN only] Alex Hirthe   Heilbronn
     49-7131-941134  11   PLC 2471        Alex Hirthe     Heilbronn
     49-7134-225-12  2    NEC 2474        Christian Emig  Weinsberg
     49-7134-225-12  3    PLC 2474        Christian Emig  Weinsberg
     49-7134-225-12  275  Starlight-BBS I Christian Emig  Weinsberg
     49-7141-26311   1    Echoserver #1   EL310   Uwe Schikowski  Asperg
     49-7141-26311   916  R24 Backbone Ring-0     Uwe Schikowski  Asperg
     49-7141-273045  10   NEC 2471        Holger Strambach        Freiberg
     49-7141-273045  1015 The Scout       Holger Strambach        Freiberg
     49-7142-980053  499  Blind Fox [EL310]   Frank Vosseler  Ingersheim
     49-7142-980053  498  Blind Fox [ZYX192]  Frank Vosseler  Ingersheim
     49-7147-92005   421  Rising Sun      Daniel Moeller  Sachsenheim
     49-7147-92005   423  Rising Sun ISDN [Teles] Daniel Moeller
                          Sachsenheim
     49-7151-937962  1331 LineMelterSystem Korb   Jochen Linkohr
                          Korb-Steinreinach
     49-7151-937962  1330 LineMelterSystem Korb   Jochen Linkohr
                          Korb-Steinreinach
     49-7151-967969  77   LifeNet-Gateway Albi Rebmann    Weinstadt
     49-7151-967969  777  Internet-Gateway      Albi Rebmann   Weinstadt
     49-7152-949928  1215 Intuition-Base ISDN     Marcus Kuba     Leonberg
     49-7152-949928  1216 Intuition-Base  Marcus Kuba     Leonberg
     49-7161-922346  3099 NET2487 GATE    Jens Reichardt  Goeppingen
     49-7161-922346  3001 SKYNET TITAN I  Jens Reichardt  Goeppingen
     49-7161-922346  3002 SKYNET TITAN II Jens Reichardt  Goeppingen
     49-7171-86018   9081 DV Lines 2+3 (X75)  Michael Gruener Schwaebisch
                          Gmuend
     49-7171-86018   9080 DV Line 1 (V.34)   Michael Gruener Schwaebisch
                          Gmuend
     49-7195-940130  1444 AMIGA Universe #3  Jan Schmidwenzl  Leutenbach

     FIDONEWS 15-16               Page 27                  20 Apr 1998

     49-7195-940130  1454 AMIGA Universe #5  Jan Schmidwenzl  Leutenbach
     49-721-9663934  1    NC 2476 Niels Kessler   Karlsruhe
     49-721-9663934  480  Finest of OS/2  Niels Kessler   Karlsruhe
     49-7231-970788  502  Source BBS [ISDN]  Markus Mandalka  Pforzheim
     49-7231-970788  501  Source BBS [V.34]  Markus Mandalka  Pforzheim
     49-7304-919087  9506 CCD ISDN-A1P    Werner Dworak   Ulm
     49-7304-919087  9507 CCD ELSA        Werner Dworak   Ulm
     49-7309-7270    4002 Weissenhorn Ost 2  Alto Speckhardt  Weissenhorn
     49-7309-7270    3    PLC 2487    Alto Speckhardt   Weissenhorn
     49-7309-7270    4001 Weissenhorn Ost 1  Alto Speckhardt  Weissenhorn
     49-7393-91325   9051 RAPPEL-Kiste ISDN   Klaus Singer   Rottenacker
     49-7393-91325   9050 RAPPEL-Kiste V34   Klaus Singer   Rottenacker
     49-7424-87072   8208 Kaes-Box LINE 2+4 [V.34]  Markus Rueb  Aldingen
     49-7424-87072   8207 Kaes-Box LINE 3+5 [*ISDN*] Markus Rueb  Aldingen
     49-7433-381981  2108 K*A*J ISDN (18-6) Thomas Loeffler  BL-Endingen
     49-7433-381981  2107 K*A*J   Thomas Loeffler BL-Endingen
     49-7459-405337  2041 The 42! ISDN    Tobi Boehm      Nagold
     49-7459-405337  2042 The 42! Tobi Boehm      Nagold
     49-751-793314   2323 Uplink-BBS      Alexander Abt   Ravensburg
     49-751-793314   2321 Uplink-BBS      Alexander Abt   Ravensburg
     49-751-793315   2324 Uplink-BBS      Alexander Abt   Ravensburg
     49-751-793315   8701 Uplink-BBS      Alexander Abt   Ravensburg
     49-7562-93739   8501 Sapperlot * ISDN *  Christoph Reichl   Isny
     49-7562-93739   8504 Sapperlot       Christoph Reichl        Isny
     49-771-16142    8035 Ministry Of Silly Walks  Andreas Seybold
                          Donaueschingen
     49-771-16142    8036 Ministry Of Silly Walks  Andreas Seybold
                          Donaueschingen
     49-7727-7251    8006 Alpha-Box       Reinhold Dotter Voehrenbach
     49-7727-7251    8007 Alpha-Box       Reinhold Dotter Voehrenbach
     49-7741-913054  9004 LAUFFEN-BOX ISDN   Heinz Prigge    Kuessaberg
     49-7741-913054  9005 LAUFFEN-BOX     Heinz Prigge    Kuessaberg
     49-7743-91065   9002 Xanth-BBS ISDN  Michael Unverzagt  Birkendorf
     49-7743-91065   9007 Xanth-BBS       Michael Unverzagt  Birkendorf
     49-8035-98182   116  BBS Neubeuern 2 Juergen Heckel  Neubeuern
     49-8035-98182   115  BBS Neubeuern 1 Juergen Heckel  Neubeuern
     49-8074-9225    506  Blues Box [X.75]  Richard Holzner   Schnaitsee
     49-8074-9225    6    PLK 2483        Richard Holzner   Schnaitsee
     49-8105-276101  852  Ghosttown BBS IV   Horst Reisnecker   Gilching
     49-8105-276101  851  Ghosttown BBS III  Horst Reisnecker   Gilching
     49-8141-36125   3566 Kloster-Eichenau   Werner Heine    Eichenau
     49-8141-36125   109  Kloster-Eichenau   Werner Heine    Eichenau
     49-8231-87613   5005 Gargamel Box (V34) Juergen Schlosser
                          Koenigsbrunn
     49-8231-87613   2    NEC 2487  Juergen Schlosser   Koenigsbrunn
     49-8231-87613   5006 Gargamel Box (ISDN)  Juergen Schlosser
                          Koenigsbrunn
     49-8231-90070   347  #-SOM-# Christian Dorner   Koenigsbrunn
     49-8231-90070   345  #-SOM-# Christian Dorner   Koenigsbrunn
     49-8231-90291   1    NC 2480 swen gutbub   Augsburg
     49-8231-90291   6    crazy ix-fuenfundsiebzig   swen gutbub
                          Koenigsbrunn
     49-8232-79535   3743 ANTARES 2 ISDN  Markus Bartsch  Schwabmuenchen
     49-8232-79535   3744 ANTARES 3       Markus Bartsch  Schwabmuenchen

     FIDONEWS 15-16               Page 28                  20 Apr 1998

     49-8374-6631    2982 Glufamichl I  Peter Rohrhirsch  Dietmannsried
     49-8374-6631    1    NC 2487 Peter Rohrhirsch        Dietmannsried
     49-8531-134004  21   in-passau.de    Frank Hennig    Pocking
     49-8531-134004  28   Pockinger Light Frank Hennig    Pocking
     49-871-26664    135  Science BBS     Jonny Dambrowski     Landshut
     49-871-26664    133  Science BBS     Jonny Dambrowski     Landshut
     49-8781-92116   19   Programmer's Inn Line 3 ISDN    Oliver Weindl
                          Rottenburg
     49-8781-92116   18   Programmer's Inn Line 2 Oliver Weindl
                          Rottenburg
     49-89-32714623  159  Techno Box Eching [LINE 2] Thomas Aichberger
                          Eching
     49-89-32714623  59   Techno Box Eching   Thomas Aichberger  Eching
     49-89-48903291  3505 KNUSPER-BOX #1  Ulrich Vogelsang    Muenchen
     49-89-48903291  914  R24 Backbone Ring-0     Ralf Guertler   Muenchen
     49-89-57966990  909  R24 Backbone Ring-0   Gisela Bierstedt  Munich
     49-89-57966990  999  I/O-Gate Germany Sued  Klaus Wietrzichowski
                          Munich
     49-89-57966990  2    Munich Mail Mafia       Gila Bierstedt  Munich
     49-89-60600375  859  GAMER'S PARADiSE #3 [X75]  Michael Ott  Muenchen
     49-89-60600375  857  GAMER'S PARADiSE #1 [V34+] Michael Ott  Muenchen
     49-89-74141938  705  Silver Surfer's Paradise  Tobias Feterowski
                          Muenchen
     49-89-74141938  724  Silver Surfer's Paradise  Tobias Feterowski
                          Muenchen
     49-89-8402297   999  Kristall/2 [56k]  Christian Heldwein  Germering
     49-89-8402297   2    NEC 2483        Christian Heldwein    Germering
     49-89-89220928  2021 Mini Box Muenchen ISDN  Wolfgang Metternich
                          Muenchen
     49-89-89220928  2020 Mini Box Muenchen  Wolfgang Metternich  Muenchen
     49-911-3939272  1052 OS2 Forum in Franken  Robert Gloeckner
                          Nuernberg
     49-911-3939272  1050 OS2 Forum in Franken  Robert Gloeckner
                          Nuernberg
     49-911-705706   2076 Kalli-BBS 2     Michael von der Bank    Fuerth
     49-911-705706   2075 Kalli-BBS 1     Michael von der Bank    Fuerth
     49-911-8001017  1110 sesom.de [ISDN] Klaus Kettner   Nuernberg
     49-911-8001017  1111 sesom.de [V.34] Klaus Kettner   Nuernberg
     49-911-8001017  11   s/e/s/o/m internet-gateway      Klaus Kettner
                          Nuernberg
     49-9123-968095  2017 FRANKEN-Liaison Otto-Wilhelm Heinze     Lauf
     49-9123-968095  2016 FRANKEN-Liaison Otto-Wilhelm Heinze     Lauf
     49-9129-279521  6599 INTERGATE SYSTEM INTERNET-GATE  Frank Schwarz
                          Nuernberg
     49-9129-279521  6569 MANBOX BBS      Frank Schwarz   Nuernberg
     49-9131-205617  1906 Hinterhaus 1    Martin Kasper   Erlangen
     49-9131-205617  902  R24 Backbone Ring-0     Martin Kasper   Erlangen
     49-9141-81389   2222 ChannelOnlineSystem  Markus Jordan  Weissenburg
     49-9141-81389   22   COS Internet Gateway  Markus Jordan  Weissenburg
     49-9155-998995  2080 Mi Amigo BBS    Kurt Petzoll    Simmelsdorf
     49-9155-998995  2081 Mi Amigo BBS    Kurt Petzoll    Simmelsdorf
     49-9188-903244  2026 Black Mysterious BBS 2  Peter Schunk
                          Postbauer-Heng
     49-9188-903244  2025 Black Mysterious BBS 1  Peter Schunk
                          Postbauer-Heng
     49-9401-3726    3    PLK     Thomas Pinz     Neutraubling
     49-9401-3726    3075 USS Odessey BBS Thomas Pinz     Neutraubling
     49-9401-79462   341  Star Fortress ISDN      Michael Raith   Barbing

     FIDONEWS 15-16               Page 29                  20 Apr 1998

     49-9401-79462   340  Star Fortress   Michael Raith   Barbing
     49-941-270592   300  TS      Thomas Schauer  Regensburg
     49-941-270592   3580 TS      Thomas Schauer  Regensburg
     49-941-55111    1926 Anwalts Liebling :-))  Rainer Zuber  Regensburg
     49-941-55111    1927 Anwalts Liebling :-))  Rainer Zuber  Regensburg
     49-941-55111    350  ANWALTS LIEBLING :-))  Rainer Zuber  Regensburg
     49-9421-88805   720  Road/2 Ruin  Gerald Schmidhuber  Straubing
     49-9421-88805   2    NEC     Gerald Schmidhuber      Straubing
     49-9453-996021  382  OUTSIDER III  Hans-Joachim Flier  Thalmassing
     49-9453-996021  380  OUTSIDER I   Hans-Joachim Flier  Thalmassing
     49-9604-91281   259  The Project     Florian Klein   Saltendorf
     49-9604-91281   59   The Project     Florian Klein   Saltendorf
     49-9662-6340    3528 Cats BBS #2     Mario Hermann   Vilseck
     49-9662-6340    3527 Cats BBS #1     Mario Hermann   Vilseck
     7-075-221-4773  2    InfoCenter      Michael Bogdanov        Tambov
     7-075-221-4773  325  InfoCenter      Michael Bogdanov        Tambov
     7-075-222-1426  3    APB BBS Anatoly Nikitin Tambov

     FIDONEWS 15-16               Page 30                  20 Apr 1998

     7-075-222-1426  326  APB BBS Anatoly Nikitin Tambov
     7-0752-210109   360  Owl     Alexander Stratienko    Tambov
     7-0752-210109   324  SKYSTAR Alexander Stratienko    Tambov
     7-095-211-1274  128  R50 Fido<->Inet Gate    Yuri Safronov   Moscow
     7-095-211-1274  204  #NAME?  Yuri Safronov   Moscow
     7-095-291-8104  999  R50 Inbound Gate        Boris Fifelin   Moscow
     7-095-291-8104  63   Falcon Hill's   Boris Fifelin   Moscow
     7-328-22-10189  503  Sandra Station  Nurlan Sadykov  Taldykorgan
     7-328-22-10189  508  Sandra Station  Nurlan Sadykov
                          Taldykorgan Kazakhstan
     90-216-3495134  254  CD-Shop BBS     Baran Baygan    Istanbul TR
     90-216-3495134  254  CD-Shop BBS     Baran Baygan    Istanbul TR
     966-2-663-3449  999  Arabian Inbound Khaled Al-Bassam        Jeddah
     966-2-663-3449  100  Saudi BBS       Khaled Al-Bassam        Jeddah
     966-2-682-0030  800  Red Sea Runners BBS     Peter Wilcox    Jeddah
     966-2-682-0030  650  EKBBS   Ed Kaamino      Jeddah
     966-2-682-0030  600  JAM BBS Dave Franks     Jeddah
     966-2-682-0030  601  JAM BBS Dave Franks     Jeddah

     The *C structure can't even tell geography. I was totalling up the
     sysops by state/provience and suddenly wierd stuff began appearing
     and the program reported the results below. I can't make this shit
     up. These bozo's we call *C's can't even read a map or follow
     instructions. Exceptions are spelled out by specific listings.
     <sigh>


     134     Beiseker Community School BBS
             Beiseker,AB     AB  Elvis Chow  403-947-2036
             AB Count    65
             AL Count    29
     1002    Satellite   Amnon,Nissan    an
             Raleigh NC  919-851-3858
     3   FileGate    Saskatchewan    an
             Richard D. Bonebrake    306-329-4778
     9   Net 140 Treasurer   Saskatchewan    an
             Lawrence Goulet     306-931-4536
             an Count    3
             AR Count    24
     236     Jagged Little Pill  Moose,Jaw   aw
             Terry Slack     306-691-5413
             aw Count    1
             AZ Count    121
     21  Hack On The Beach   Matividiri,Aruba    ba
             Jacobo Oduber   297-8-56851
             ba Count    1
             BC Count    181
     540     L'Escapade S.B.E.   Granby,Qc.  c.
             Yannick Brosseau    514-776-7810
             c. Count    1
             CA Count    400
     35  Bella Donna BBS     Wrightsville,Beach  ch
             Mett Renfrow    910-256-6969
             ch Count    1
             CO Count    104
             CT Count    131
             DC Count    4
             DE Count    24

     FIDONEWS 15-16               Page 31                  20 Apr 1998

     24  Spinnaker BBS   Charlotte,Amalie,U.S.,Virgin,Islands    ds
             Bruce Berry     809-779-1951
             ds Count    1
             FL Count    334
             GA Count    71
             HI Count    2
             IA Count    31
             Id Count    8
             IL Count    131
             IN Count    84
     9   229 Gateway     Oshawa,Ontario  io
             Gateway Host    905-433-4765
             io Count    1
     75  Who's Askin'?   Matanuska-Susitna,Valley,Alaska     ka
             Alex Vasauskas  907-745-6093
     13  Cybertronix Corporation     Palmer,Alaska   ka
             Dennis Stout    907-745-6244
             ka Count    2
             Ks Count    44
             KY Count    24
             LA Count    46
     53  The Big Electric Cat    Melville    le
             Frank Cox   306-728-4530
             le Count    1
             MA Count    86
             MB Count    32
             MD Count    72
             ME Count    55
             MI Count    163
             MN Count    39
             MO Count    96
     448     Prophecy BBS
             Bill,Wehrkamp   mp  East Stroudsburg PA     717-476-3115
             mp Count    1
             MS Count    26
     101     South Echomail Hub  Regina  na
             Darryl Gregorash    306-924-1577
     1096    MR. ComTek  Regina  na
             Jim McBride     306-777-4493
     118     SkyWatch    Regina  na
             Ross Parker     306-569-0581
     18  Ganshirt At Home    Regina  na
             Ken Ganshirt    306-543-1949
     219     The Legacy  Regina  na
             Richard Spring  306-789-8291
     230     Federated Commonwealth  Regina  na
             Grant Whiteman  306-949-6481
     234     Fast Eddie's    Regina  na
             Ed Seneshen     306-924-3789
     34  Late Night  Regina  na
             Dayton Cowles   306-522-8934
     41  The Bit Stop    Regina  na
             Garth Stimpson  306-545-0889

     FIDONEWS 15-16               Page 32                  20 Apr 1998

     86  BIG BANG Burger Bar     Regina  na
             Darryl Gregorash    306-924-1577
             na Count    10
             NB Count    15
             NC Count    144
             ND Count    6
             NE Count    46
             NH Count    33
             NJ Count    145
             NM Count    18
             NS Count    11
             NT Count    1
             NV Count    21
             NY Count    219
             OH Count    185
             OK Count    77
             ON Count    466
             OR Count    88
             PA Count    211
             PE Count    6
             PQ Count    6
             PR Count    7
             QC Count    77
     20  Searchlight Global Access BBS   Batesville,Ar.  r.
             Wayne Ray   870-698-1798
             r. Count    1
     330     The Low Road BBS    Milford     rd
             Kurt Robair     603-672-3147
             rd Count    1
             RI Count    8
     76  The Ragnet  Weyburn     rn
             Amos Johnson    306-848-0075
             rn Count    1
     160     Cook's Kitchen  Prince,Albert   rt
             Trevor Cook     306-764-0887
             rt Count    1
             SC Count    58
             SD Count    7
     26  Midnight Oil BBS    LEC,Lethbridge,Alberta  ta
             John Wagontall  403-329-3381
     17  TERMINAL    Lethbridge,Alberta  ta
             Laz Gottli  403-327-9741
     63  Miniature Aircraft  Medicine,Hat,Alberta    ta
             Jim Rea     403-527-9322
             ta Count    3
     60  The Shack   Asquith     th
             Richard D. Bonebrake    306-329-4778
     69  Valhalla BBS    Asquith     th
             Rory Bonebrake  306-329-4778
     245     The Polecat BBS     Somersworth     th
             Marc Bilodeau   603-743-4366
             th Count    3
             TN Count    140
     1005    Nut's Only  Normal,Heights  ts
             Lynne Neely     619-280-1507
             ts Count    1
             Tx Count    370
     2   Purgatory   Canon,City  ty  Co.
             Richard Cochran  719-269-9261
     640     The Other Side  Rapid,City  ty
             Jason Reynolds  605-342-7335
     169     IBECC/TeleStar Host     West,Adams,County   ty
             Marshall Barry  303-426-1866
     69  TelePeople{sm} (Retired)    West,Adams,County   ty
             Terry Travis    303-426-1866

     FIDONEWS 15-16               Page 33                  20 Apr 1998

     969     TeleCircuits{sm}    West,Adams,County   ty
             Michelle Weisblat   303-426-1917
             ty Count    5
     1300    Echo Hub    Central,Valley,EHub     ub  SJ3
             Dennis Blair    408-229-9753
     1100    Echo Hub    East,Valley,EHub    ub  SJ1
             Johnny Bowen    408-946-5454
             ub Count    2
             UT Count    22
             VA Count    103
             VT Count    13
             WA Count    137
             WI Count    56
             WV Count    26


     Check out the locations listed for these nodes in the nodelist as
     edited by our fine and outstanding (did I say diligent) *C
     structure from the NC right through to t he ZC who reviewed the
     changed and approved them.


     FIDONEWS 15-16               Page 34                  20 Apr 1998

     107     KRA-Soft    Tomsk*,*     ,*                 Pavel Krasikov
     2       Net 205 Mail Server II   209.77.232.2       M Hernandez
     500     Bad Sector BBS           9600               Revelstoke BC
     12      Spine FTP Hub            Region,17          Bob Seaborn
     5       GreenTree Ground Station Grid:,CM88         KB6LWN
     2       Deputy R12C              (Eastern,Canada)   Susan Duncan
     202     Time-Out BBS             Sadsburyville,PA.  Bobby Miller
     107     Vermilion Lighthouse     Vermilion,Alta.    Tony Toews

     (Note in the last two there is not supposed to be a period after
     the state


     Look at the locations listed for these BBS's:


     2    Deputy R12C            (Eastern,Canada)
          Susan Duncan    613-744-5750
     2    Net 205 Mail Server II  209.77.232.2
          M Hernandez     209-456-8393

     65   Ramey Cyber BBS     Aguadilla,PR
          TELNET Node Only ramnet.dyn.ml.org                                                                  787-890-3032
     2    FEC 320         Eastern,CT
          Vacant                  860-535-4284
     241  Red October     San,Jose,Ca
          ADMIN                   408-629-4695

     FIDONEWS 15-16               Page 35                  20 Apr 1998

     2    SoCalNet EC     Los,Angeles,CA
          Echomail Coordinator    310-553-6379
     236  Zero-G          Ottawa,ON
          Fox                     613-747-0615
     2    Net 2215 Inte   Canton,OH
          ftnadmin                330-588-9690
     9    229 Gateway     Oshawa,Ontario
          Gateway Host            905-433-4765
     500  Lake Superior HUB       Thunder,Bay,ON
          GCS Sysops      807-344-6778
     512  Global Connect Systems  Thunder,Bay,ON
          GCS Sysops      807-344-6778
     10   Internet EMail Gateway  Rochester,NY
          GrandPa         716-461-3971
     999  NET 2614 Test Node      Somewhere,PA
          Joe Sysop       215-393-8594
     301  12&12 regurgitated      Fullerton,CA
          JoeJared@webworldinc.com                                                                    714-532-1586
     5    GreenTree Ground Station    Grid:,CM88
          KB6LWN              707-987-4736
     5    Net 2613 Mail Server    Rochester,NY
          Mother          716-338-2214
     421  T&M Associates          Middletown,NJ
          mquinlan@apollo 732-706-1366
     203  the GAME ZONE BBS       Hayward,CA
          Mr. GAME        510-785-4263
     205  NEW APPLICATIONS HERE   Fresno,CA
          NET 205 NC      209-251-7529
     2    NET 309 NEC             Sierra,Vista,AZ
          Net 309 NEC     520-515-0185
     999  Temp # For New Applicants Eau,Claire,WI
          New Applicant   715-552-0888
     9999 New Net 231 SysOp       Indianapolis,IN
          New SysOp       317-598-0813
     503  Home For The Digitally Intolerant   Orleans,ON
          "Paul ""THE HAMMER"" Hansen"       613-824-1758

     2    US MAIL SERVICE          Tacoma,WA
          Post Master 253-474-1720
     3    Internet Gateway Net396  New,Orleans,LA
          Postmaster  504-897-6006
     3    Internet Gateway Net3828 Mandeville,LA
          Postmaster  504-727-4951
     102  Private Gateway         Jacksonville,FL
          Postmaster  904-641-8892
     1551 UUCP Gateway Net261     Baltimore,MD
          Postmaster  410-837-1420

     FIDONEWS 15-16               Page 36                  20 Apr 1998

     350  Hub300 Internet Gate    Weedsport,NY
          postmaster  315-689-7729
     1550 Private Gateway         SouthBawlamer,MD
          Postmaster  410-837-1420
     2    NET267 Internet Gateway Selkirk,NY
          Postmaster  518-767-0144
     998  Net 231 UUCP            Indianapolis,IN
          Postmaster  317-856-9020
     2    Jax Internet Gateway    Jacksonville,Fl
          Postmaster  904-381-9613
     11   Med TechNet Internet    Buffalo,NY
          postmaster  716-636-8235
     630  Canandaigua Academy BBS Canandaigua,NY
          Sysop       716-396-3889
     41   Norwood School District Peoria,IL
          Sysop       309-676-7871
     2    2608 Mail Server        Brownville,NY
          System Operator       315-785-9261
     3    387NET Internet Gateway San,Antonio,TX
          UUCP        210-674-0341
     5    R19 Internet Gate       AR,LA,OK,TX
          UUCP        918-254-6618
     5    Net352 UUCP Gateway     Shelton,WA
          UUCP        360-427-1759
     100  Southern Oregon Gateway Albany,OR
          UUCP        541-928-953
     1000 Wplace Gateway          Sanford,NC
          wpadmin     919-499-2088


     901-384-0312    501     Hub 500 Mail System
          Memphis,Tn  Mike Wilson
     901-384-0312    516     CRP Administrator
          Memphis,Tn  Susie Wilson

     714-639-1139    10  Club 103 Pres
          Orange,CA   Warren Bonner
     714-639-1139    8   Club 103 StoreKeeper
          Orange,CA   Warren Bonner
     714-639-1139    401 Ol' Codger's BBS
          Orange,CA   Warren Bonner

     714-961-5499    402 The Sunset Grill
          Placentia,CA    Dennis Carr
     714-961-5499    9   Club 103 Secretary
          Placentia,CA    Dennis Carr

     604-589-8561    6   Basic'ly Manager
          Surrey,BC   Bob Satti
     604-589-8561    9   Basic'ly BBS
          Surrey,BC   Bob Satti

     604-597-4425    86   D's Space
          Surrey,BC   D' Herringshaw

     FIDONEWS 15-16               Page 37                  20 Apr 1998

     604-597-4425    1006 Pacific Rim PR
          Surrey,BC   Bill Herringshaw
     604-597-4425    85   Bill's Place
          Surrey,BC   Bill Herringshaw

     819-682-2431    222     In Vino Veritas
          Aylmer,QC   Dave Beach
     819-682-2431    99      Say No To Echopol
          Aylmer,QC   Dave Beach

     540-373-8215    99  Who's Got What (WGW)
          Falmouth,Va     Jack Williams
     540-373-8215    30  Jack's Emporium
          Falmouth,Va     Jack Williams

     604-820-2889    563     Amazon BBS
          Mission,BC  Brett Taylor
     604-820-2889    562     Amazon BBS
          Mission,BC  Brett Taylor

     604-856-3661    316     TASH Online
          Aldergrove,BC   Stuart Miller
     604-856-3661    315     Zombie Zoo
          Aldergrove,BC   Stuart Miller

     613-332-8236    390     eXpress >< conneXions
          Bancroft,ON     August Abolins
     613-332-8236    144     eXpress >< conneXions
          Bancroft,ON     August Abolins

     613-498-2245    307     Tequilla Sunrise
          Brockville,ON   Tammy Wilson
     613-498-2245    308     Travelers Rest
          Brockville,ON   James Edwards

     760-430-1953    429     Corpsmans Corner
          Vista,CA    William Scott Lockwood III
     760-430-1953    1234    Corpsmans Corner
          Vista,CA    TJ Lockwood

     812-481-2420    2   The Last Stand BBS #1
          Jasper,IN   Tim Tooley
     812-481-2420    3   The Last Stand BBS #2
          Jasper,IN   Tim Tooley

     850-957-9150    410 The Visible Spectrum BBS
          Munson,FL   Scott Cohron
     850-957-9150    5   North Santa Rosa LEC
          Munson,FL   Scott Cohron

     912-786-6249    7   CMS Group
          Tybee,IS,GA     Carl Savio
     912-786-6249    8   CMS Group
          Tybee,IS,GA     Carl Savio

     913-648-6979    318 KC GeneSplicer BBS
          Leawood,KS  Steve Everley

     FIDONEWS 15-16               Page 38                  20 Apr 1998

     913-648-6979    800 PI4HIRE.COM<tm> Investigations
          Shawnee,Mission,KS  Steve Everley

     916-381-8788    909     The Capitol City Gateway RBBS
          Sacramento,CA   Charles Doughty
     916-381-8788    203     The Capitol City Gateway RBBS
          Sacramento,CA   Charles Doughty

     919-851-3858    1003    Shalom III
          Raleigh,NC      Amnon Nissan
     919-851-3858    1002    Satellite
          Amnon,Nissan    Raleigh NC

     920-725-0779    630     APPLEGATE
          Neenah,WI   Tim Peeters
     920-725-0779    631     APPLEGATE 1
          Neenah,WI   Tim Peeters


     FIDONEWS 15-16               Page 39                  20 Apr 1998

     941-766-1395    15  Sarah's Place
          Port,Charlotte,FL   Jay Galvin

     410-837-1420    1552  Moderator OtherNets
          Mob,Town,MD        Thom LaCosta
     410-837-1420    1551  UUCP Gateway Net261
          Baltimore,MD       Postmaster
     410-837-1420    1550  Private Gateway
          South,Bawlamer,MD  Postmaster
     410-837-1420    1352  The Barter Board-Hon
          South,Bawlamer,MD  Thom LaCosta


     What town? What sysop? What BBS?

     Here's the 1st runnerup....

     416-502-3712    121 KARICO BS-BBS II* *
           North,York,ON   Kari Suomela
     416-502-3712    15  UCnet File Distribution* *
           North,York,ON   Kari Suomela
     416-502-3712    2   KARICO BS-BBS
           North,York,ON   Kari Suomela
     416-502-3712    32  Echo Distribution 2* *
           North,York,ON   Kari Suomela


     They're in there twice, honest. Can you find them? Nodelist 100.

     330-394-7444    10  The Panda Cave
            Warren,Oh   John Etling
     330-394-7444    10  The Panda Cave
            Warren,Oh   John Etling

     403-696-3765    202     Megasoft Breton Exchange
            Breton,AB   Paul Kugyelka
     403-696-3765    701     Megasoft Breton Exchange
            Breton,AB   Paul Kugyelka

     407-348-5295    23  Osceola Express BBS
            Kissimmee,FL    Larry Charpiat
     407-348-5295    23  Osceola Express BBS
            Kissimmee,FL    Larry Charpiat

     407-847-8990    36  Noble House BBS
            Kissimmee,FL    Michael Kirst
     407-847-8990    36  Noble House BBS
            Kissimmee,FL    Michael Kirst

     412-821-8431    43  Mtn. View Micro Mall
            Pittsburgh,PA   Marcel Schmelzer
     412-821-8431    42  Mtn. View Micro Mall
            Pittsburgh,PA   Marcel Schmelzer

     416-247-6151    10426   TIBM Wizard* *
            Rexdale,ON  Ray Dyer
     416-247-6151    426     TIBM Wizard* *
            Rexdale,ON  Ray Dyer


     FIDONEWS 15-16               Page 40                  20 Apr 1998

     416-745-7883    307     T.A.P.P.S. Music BBS* *
            Rexdale,ON  Terry Cairns
     416-745-7883    10307   T.A.P.P.S. Music BBS* *
            Rexdale,ON  Terry Cairns

     505-397-4990    2   LAMPLIGHTER TECH HELP
            Hobbs,NM    Mike Nichols
     505-397-4990    3   LAMPLIGHTER TECH HELP
            Hobbs,NM    Mike Nichols

     510-444-8246    32  OAsis
            Oakland,CA  Michael Jacob
     510-444-8246    32  OAsis
            Oakland,CA  Michael Jacob

     561-575-5535    4   Jupiter BBS
            Jupiter,Fl  Ted Parsons
     561-575-5535    4   Jupiter BBS
            Jupiter,Fl  Ted Parsons

     561-743-9957    28  The Dirty Diaper BBS
            Jupiter,Fl  Robert Krausankas
     561-743-9957    26  The Dirty Diaper BBS
            Jupiter,Fl  Robert Krausankas

     561-878-6643    11  The Swap Shop BBS
            Port,St,Lucie,Fl    Mark Weingartner
     561-878-6643    11  The Swap Shop BBS
            Port,St,Lucie,Fl    Mark Weingartner

     602-814-9142    153     ADTBBS
            Chandler,AZ     Aaron Thompson
     602-814-9142    7777    ADTBBS
            Phoenix,AZ      Aaron Thompson

     603-942-8516    237     The Dog House
            Northwood,NH    Henry Masten
     603-942-8516    305     The Dog House
            Northwood,NH    Henry Masten

     604-266-5271    716     BandMaster Wits' End
            Vancouver,BC    Ardith Hinton
     604-266-5271    7715    BandMaster Postie
            Vancouver,BC    D E Hinton

     604-524-9046    831    Eclectic Lab 1
            New,Westminster,BC  Mary-Anne Wise
     604-524-9046    1008   Pacific Rim Librarian
            New,Westminster,BC  Mary-Anne Wise

     604-540-8048    800     Nibble's Roost
            Richmond,BC     Alec Herrmann
     604-540-8048    8086    Nibble's Roost
            Richmond,BC     Alec Herrmann

     614-879-6762    830     The Lillie's Pad
            West,Jefferson,Oh   Doug Lillie
     614-879-6762    840     The Lillie's Pad 2
            West,Jefferson,Oh   Doug Lillie


     FIDONEWS 15-16               Page 41                  20 Apr 1998

     702-453-9852    2       TOL BBS
            Las,Vegas,NV    Ed Ellis
     702-453-9852    333     TOL BBS
            Las,Vegas,NV    Ed Ellis

     703-242-4487    347     OS/2 Shareware
            Fairfax,VA  Pete Norloff
     703-242-4487    357     OS/2 Shareware
            Fairfax,VA  Pete Norloff

     704-552-1411    30  Moobasi Skylight
            Charlotte,NC    Blaine Schmidt
     704-552-1411    50  Moobasi Optics Ink
            Charlotte,NC    Jennifer Schmidt

     705-424-6246    510     Toms BBS Attempt
            Baxter,ON   Tom Trent
     705-424-6246    501     Tom's BBS Attempt
            Baxter,ON   Tom Trent

     705-487-6520    252     The Other Domain* *
            Hawkestone,ON   Jeff Irvine
     705-487-6520    107     The Other Domain BBS
            Hawkestone,ON   Jeff Irvine

     724-527-3749    334     KastlerocK
            Jeannette,PA    Jamie Kowinsky
     724-527-3749    13      KastlerocK
            Jeannette,PA    Jamie Kowinsky

     724-694-9701    305     The Titantic BBS
            New,Derry,PA     T.J. McMillen Jr.
     724-694-9701    33      The Titantic BBS - Node 1
            New,Derry,PA T.J. McMillen Jr.

     732-262-7967    701     The Other BBS
            Brick,Township,NJ   Stephen Reinen
     732-262-7967    702     Affordable Computer Services
            Brick,Township,NJ   George Steinmetz

     905-721-8960    610     * * Paranormal Discussions
            Whitby,ON   Paul Dobbs
     905-721-8960    2405    Paranormal Discussions* *
            Oshawa,ON   Paul Dobbs

     905-875-1133    612     Colour Dragon ][
            Milton,ON   Bruce Smith
     905-875-1133    100     Colour Dragon ][
            Milton,ON   Bruce Smith

     909-794-4340    255     The Dragon's Lair
            Yucaipa,CA  John Corder
     909-794-4340    404     The Dragon's Lair
            Yucaipa,CA  John Corder



     FIDONEWS 15-16               Page 42                  20 Apr 1998

     You check it out. *C's can't delegate, but some did:


     313-582-0888 400 bloom county
            dearborn,mi  gary gilmore
     313-582-0888 2   Region 11 Assistant RC
            Dearborn,MI  Gary Gilmore

     613-744-5750 403 Akasha's Bubble Bath & Magic Potion Emporium
           Ottawa,ON           Susan Duncan
     613-744-5750 2   Deputy R12C
           (Eastern,Canada)    Susan Duncan

     905-278-9495    10  Net 250 Deputy NC
           Port,Credit,ON     Glenn Menzie
     905-278-9495    114 The Port Credit Bulletin Board
           Port,Credit,ON     Glenn Menzie



     FIDONEWS 15-16               Page 43                  20 Apr 1998

     Since when was treasurer a listed position in the *C structure?
     How does it move mail? And where in P4 do filehubs grow? And will
     the real town please stand up? nAll with the same phone number....


     306-931-4536    9   Net 140 Treasurer
           Saskatchewan Lawrence Goulet
     306-931-4536    117     .\\averick 2
           Saskatoon    Lawrence Goulet
     306-931-4536    209     North File Hub
           Saskatoon    Lawrence Goulet

     317-856-9020    3   Net 231 Treasurer
           Indianapolis,IN     Charlie Smith
     317-856-9020    998     Net 231 UUCP
           Indianapolis,IN     Postmaster
     317-856-9020    992     The CyberSpace
           Indianapolis,IN     Charlie Smith

     403-686-2550    4   SASA Treasurer
           Calgary,AB  Sid Lee
     403-686-2550    122     Rascal BBS
           Calgary,AB  Sid Lee

     416-469-0611    3   Net Treasurer* *
           Toronto,ON  Ken Patience
     416-469-0611    610     M.T.A.C. BBS* *
           Toronto,ON  Ken Patience


     FIDONEWS 15-16               Page 44                  20 Apr 1998

     416-757-8903    404     T.C.C.C. BBS
           Scarborough,ON  Merv Curley
     416-757-8903    3   Net 250 Treasurer
           Scarborough,ON  Merv Curley

     425-742-1597    51  Silverfox's Den
           Edmonds,WA  Larry Goff
     425-742-1597    2   L.S.O. Treasurer
           Edmonds,WA  Larry Goff

     619-566-0577    1401 Ancient Warriors I
           Mira,Mesa,Ca    Anthony Bellville
     619-566-0577    2    NET202 TREAS
           Mira,Mesa,CA    Anthony Bellville

     732-821-4533    101 The Maven's Roost
           Kendall,Park,NJ     Alan Rackmill
     732-821-4533    8   Net 107 Treasurer (NT)
           Kendall,Park,NJ     Alan Rackmill

     915-598-2042    74  Sub-Rosa
           El,Paso,TX  David Butler
     915-598-2042    9   Net381 Treasurer
           El,Paso,TX  David Butler

     306-329-4778    69  Valhalla BBS
           Asquith         Rory  Bonebrake
     306-329-4778    3   FileGate
           Saskatchewan    Richard D. Bonebrake
     306-329-4778    60  The Shack
           Asquith         Richard D. Bonebrake

     541-688-5853    8   The Grand Illusion
           Eugene,OR   Donna Johnson
     541-688-5853    7   Dimension 7
           Eugene,OR   Russ Johnson

     604-463-9532    98  A Difficult Point
           Maple,Ridge,BC  Eric Wold
     604-463-9532    200 Lynn's Place
           Maple,Ridge,BC  Lynn Wold



     FIDONEWS 15-16               Page 45                  20 Apr 1998

     Same phone number. Whatsa filebone? What does that have to
     do with mail? And how does the same phone number exist in
     two different towns?


     215-633-0583    216 Storm Front BBS
           Bensalem,PA     Bill Dennison
     215-633-0583    2         Filebone Hub
           Croydon,PA      Bill Dennison

     732-494-3417    50  Net 107 Social Coord   (NSC)
           Edison,NJ   Larry Feldman
     732-494-3417    344     Planet Shadowstar TBBS
           Edison,NJ   Larry Feldman


     Same phone number, different nodes? different sysop?


     212-567-2509 320 Thunderdome BBS
            New,York,NY                 Robert Forgione
     212-567-2509 5   NYCnet EchoMail CRP Administrator
            New,York,NY


     ;E ,507,WWW_BBS,Leeuwarden,Klaus_Spithost,31-58-2802106,
         9600,V32B,V42B,V34,VFC, CM,XA,U,ENC
     ;E  -- Duplicate Node number -- "507"
     ;E ,VFC,U,TUh,,,,
     ;E  -- Invalid Node number -- "VFC"
     ;E ,207,The_Chainsaw_Operator,Bucharest,Andrei_Steriopol,
         40-1-613-7975,XA,LO,V3 2B,V42B
     ;E  -- Invalid baud rate -- "XA"
     ;E HUB,200,TAIPEI_Net_Hub_200,Taipei_Taiwan,Teco_Jinn,
         886-2-22602-2761,14400,MO ,V32b,XX
     ;E  -- Invalid baud rate -- "14400"
     ;E ,201,Black_Bird_QBBS,Taipei,Teco_Jinn,
         886-2-2602-2761,14400,MO,XX,Z16
     ;E  -- Invalid baud rate -- "14400"
     ;E ,1427,Super_Space_BBS,Taipei_Taiwan,Chen-long_Ho,
         886-2-2875-2787,9600CM,XA,V 32B,VFC,V42B
     ;E  -- Invalid baud rate -- "9600CM"


     Congratulations to the fine *C structure's careful review of
     their submissions this week (Nodelist 100)


     Here they are!

     4,Waldo CRP Mail Slave,"Shelton,WA",Waldo Maylor,360-427-1759
     5,NYCnet EchoMail CRP Administrator,"New,York,NY",
         Maxine Forgione,212-567-2509
     516,CRP Administrator,"Memphis,Tn",Susie Wilson,901-384-0312
     87,MAIL ONLY,"Colorado,Springs,CO",Pikes Peak CRP,719-260-9721
     2,L.S.O. Treasurer,"Edmonds,WA",Larry Goff,425-742-1597
     3,Net 231 Treasurer,"Indianapolis,IN",Charlie Smith,317-856-9020
     3,Net 250 Treasurer,"Scarborough,ON",Merv Curley,416-757-8903
     3,Net Treasurer* *,"Toronto,ON",Ken Patience,416-469-0611

     FIDONEWS 15-16               Page 46                  20 Apr 1998

     4,SASA Treasurer,"Calgary,AB",Sid Lee,403-686-2550
     8,Net 107 Treasurer (NT),"Kendall,Park,NJ",Alan Rackmill,732-821-4533
     9,Net381 Treasurer,"El,Paso,TX",David Butler,915-598-2042
     9,Net 140 Treasurer,Saskatchewan,Lawrence Goulet,306-931-453

     After all, the whole WORLD needs be able to send them a check, right?


     Did you ever wonder if the U is suppose to be in it's own
     comma delimited field as opposed to joined to other characters?


     Example

     is
     ,U,FAX,NEC,
     the proper way to display flags

     or is
     ,UFAX,NEC
     ,UNEC,FAX
     the proper way?

     It would seem the first makes sense for those programs such as
     the Fidonet Sniffer programs I've written to insure we as sysops
     have a good, well maintained nodelist.

     Heck, the news would even be man bites dog. <g>

     The following nodes are flying an X2 flag, but according to the
     bottom of nodelist.100 no such flags exist. In fact one has an
     X2H which is presumed to be an exotic version of X2. <g> Way
     to go *C structure, a legend in your own mind.


     14,Maple Shade Opus ISDN X2 Host,"Maple,Shade,NJ",
          Barry Geller,609-414-9095,
          9600,CM,XA,V34,VFC,V32t,V32b,H16,V42b,UV120H,X2H
     14,Project Enable,"Cross,Lanes,WV",
          Tom Freeman,304-766-2692,
          9600,V34,VFC,V32T,H16,V32B,V42B,XA,CM,UV110L,V120L,V120H,X 2
     170,Mnemonic Oubliette,"Broken,Arrow,Ok",
          Matt Weese,918-455-5806,
          9600,CM,MO,XA,V34,V32b,V42b,VFC,V32T,H16,UFAX,X2C,ENC,NSMH
     3000,COMM Port OS/2 ISDN,"Sugar,Land,TX",
          Bob Juge,281-980-1146,
          9600,CM,H16,V32b,V42b,VFC,V32t,V34,V110L,V120L,V120H,X2,V90
     3001,COMM Port OS/2 ISDN,"Sugar,Land,TX",
          Bob Juge,281-980-1092,
          9600,CM,H16,V32b,V42b,VFC,V32t,V34,V110L,V120L,V120H,X2,V90
     32,Jim In Motion BBS,"Palm,Bay,FL",
          Jim Chiravalle,407-952-8089,
          9600,V32b,CM,XX,X2,,,,
     48,The Clovis Connection,"Clovis,CA",
          Rod Jessen,209-323-7583,
          9600,XX,CM,MO,V32b,V32T,V42b,VFC,V34,X2C

     FIDONEWS 15-16               Page 47                  20 Apr 1998

     501,The Inner Sanctum |N1|,"Welland,ON",
          Jamie Lee,905-732-9826,
          9600,CM,XX,V32B,V34,V42B,H16,VFC,UV34+,X2
     502,The Inner Sanctum |N2|,"Welland,ON",
          Jamie Lee,905-732-5149,
          9600,CM,XX,V32B,V34,V42B,H16,VFC,UV34+,X2
     91,AmiConnection,"Easly,SC",John Hoyt,864-855-8407,
          9600,H16,VFC,V32,V34,V42B,X2 ,CM,XA
     97,Net247 FileEcho Coordinator,"Welland,ON",
          Jamie Lee,905-732-9826,
          9600,CM,XA,V32B,V42B,H16,V32T,V34,VFC,UV34+,X2
     99,Net247 EchoMail Coordinator,"Welland,ON",
          Jamie Lee NEC,905-732-9826,
          9600,CM,XA,V32B,V42B,H16,V32T,V34,VFC,UNEC,V34+,X2


     The following nodes are flying a V90 flag when no such flag
     exists at the bottom of nodelist.100. More of the same from
     the inept and brain dead *C structure that couldn't tell a
     good flag grm a good fart.


     FIDONEWS 15-16               Page 48                  20 Apr 1998


     54,Starfire - ISDN/V.90 Host,"Bartlett,Tn",
          Phil Arnold,901-386-6067,
          300,CM,XX,UISDN,V90,
     110,Aces High/2,"Hamilton,ON",
          Stephen Adams,905-547-5825,
          9600,CM,XA,V32B,V42B,V 34,V90,U,MELEE,
     128,Computer Junction,"Elizabeth,NJ",
          Jeff Shapiro,908-355-8884,
          9600,CM,XR,H16,V32b,V32T,V42b,VFC,V34,V90
     3000,COMM Port OS/2 ISDN,"Sugar,Land,TX",
          Bob Juge,281-980-1146,
          9600,CM,H16,V32b,V42b,VFC,V32t,V34,V110L,V120L,V120H,X2,V90
     3001,COMM Port OS/2 ISDN,"Sugar,Land,TX",
          Bob Juge,281-980-1092,
          9600,CM,H16,V32b,V42b,VFC,V32t,V34,V110L,V120L,V120H,X2,V90
     98,Hamilton Wentworth UEC,"Hamilton,ON",
           Steve Adams,905-547-5825,
          9600,CM,XA,V32B,V42B,V34,V90,U,NSMH,dddddd
     99,Hamilton Wentworth NEC,"Hamilton,ON",
          Steve Adams,905-547-5825,
          9600,CM,XA,V32B,V42B,V34,V90,U,NSMH,


     Here are the Z1 & Z2 listed UUCP gateways. Well sort of. The
     consistency in listing them is about as consistent as jello.
     The technology must overwhelm the IQ of our imperious *C
     structure's available digits in Z1.


     10,Internet EMail Gateway,"Rochester,NY",
          GrandPa,716-461-3971,
          9600,V34,V32b,CM, XX,GUUCP,


     This is a "stealth" gteway!


     10,Net209 UUCP Gate,"Las,Vegas,NV",
           Joseph Gibson,702-898-2665,
           9600,CM,XX,V32b,V42b,VFC,V34,
     100,Net214 Internet Gateway,"Visalia,CA",
           Raymond Quinn,209-636-8647,
           9600,CM,XA,V32b,v42b,GUUCP,
     100,Net 346 Services,"Spokane,WA",
           Rocky Seelbach,509-928-6071,
           9600,H16,CM,V34,XX,GUUCP,
     100,Southern Oregon Gateway,"Albany,OR",
           UUCP,541-928-9535,
           9600,CM,XA,v32b,v42b, v34,vFC,GUUCP,



     FIDONEWS 15-16               Page 49                  20 Apr 1998

     This is an "undercover" gateway!


     1000,Net143 uucp,"San,Jose,Ca",
           Doug Coatney,408-865-1560,
           9600,CM,XA,V32b,V42b,H 16,V34,VFC,V32T,


     This one can't read the bottom of the nodelist!


     1000,Wplace Gateway,"Sanford,NC",
            wpadmin,919-499-2088,
            9600,CM,XA,V32b,V42b,H16, V32t,V34,U,UUCP


     Another "seath" gateway. Many are hidden.


     1001,uucp,"San,Jose,Ca",
     Alan Baker,408-256-8367,9600,CM,MO,XA,V32b,V42b,V34,VFC ,V32T,H16
     1023,Wildfire,"Mesquite,Tx",
     Phil Ashley,972-613-7795,9600,V32b,V42b,V34,CM,XA,G UUCP
     103,MPC Systems,"West,Melbourne,FL",
     Rob Taylor,407-722-0574,9600,V34,VFC,V32b,V42b,CM,GUUCP,
     128,Ursa Major II,"Manhattan,Beach,CA",
     Scott Robb,310-545-7482,9600,CM,XX,V32b,V42b,H16,V32T,VFC,V34,GUUCP
     13,Check Source,"Urbana,IL",
     Melissa Woo,217-244-6954,9600,CM,XA,H14,V32,GUUCP,


     Another *C structure that can't read the bottom of the nodelist!
     Gee, I wonder if they color it in with crayons or something?


     153,ADTBBS,"Chandler,AZ",
          Aaron Thompson,602-814-9142,
          9600,CM,XA,V32,V42b,VFC,UU CP,
     1551,UUCP Gateway Net261,"Baltimore,MD",
          Postmaster,410-837-1420,
          9600,CM,XX,V32b ,V42b,GUUCP,
     2,Jax Internet Gateway,"Jacksonville,Fl",
          Postmaster,904-381-9613,
          9600,CM,MO,XX, V32b,V42b,V34,GUUCP,
     2,NET267 Internet Gateway,"Selkirk,NY",
          Postmaster,518-767-0144,
          9600,CM,XX,V32B, V42B,V34,GUUCP,
     2342,The Message Board,"Irving,TX",
          Gary Butters,972-313-7160,
          9600,CM,XA,V32b,V42b,V34,MNP,GUUCP,U,V120H,V120L
     3,387NET Internet Gateway,"San,Antonio,TX",
          UUCP,210-674-0341,
          9600,CM,MO,XA,V34, V32b,V42b,H16,V32T,VFC,GUUCP
     3,Internet Gateway Net3828,"Mandeville,LA",
          Postmaster,504-727-4951,
          9600,CM,XA,V 34,VFC,V32B,GUUCP,
     3,Internet Gateway Net396,"New,Orleans,LA",
          Postmaster,504-897-6006,
          9600,CM,XA,V 34,VFC,V32b,GUUCP,
     3,Net 218 UUCP Gateway,"Glendora,CA",
          John Hentsch,626-914-5044,
          9600,XX,CM,VFC,V34,V32b,V42b,GUUCP,UNEC,
     306,The Crystal Ship,"Aloha,OR",
         Mark Loofburrow,503-591-8873,
          9600,XB,MO,LO,CM,V 34,V42b,GUUCP
     350,Hub300 Internet Gate,"Weedsport,NY",
          postmaster,315-689-7729,
          9600,CM,XA,V32b ,V42b,V34,VFC,GUUCP


     Another stealth gateway! They are good at hiding them in
     California. Perhaps the flags fell off in the last earthquake.

     4,SacUUCP,"Sacramento,CA",
          Charles Meadows,916-388-0905,
          9600,CM,V32b,V42b,VFC,V3 4,XA,
     401,Black Dragon Inn,"Worcester,MA",
          Stephen Griffin,508-791-9829,
          9600,MO,V32b,V42b,Guucp,VFC,
     5,Net352 UUCP Gateway,"Shelton,WA",
          UUCP,360-427-1759,
          9600,XA,CM,MO,V32b,V42b,GU UCP,
     5,R19 Internet Gate,"AR,LA,OK,TX",
          UUCP,918-254-6618,
          9600,CM,XA,V32b,V42b,GUUCP
     7008,Computer Connection BBS,"Irving,TX",
          Ben Hamilton,972-273-2614,
          9600,CM,XA,HST,V32b,V32T,V34,V42b,VFC,GUUCP,UREC


     This listing takes the cake!


     74,Net266 Internet Gate,"Vineland,NJ",
          Pab Sungenis,609-794-8907,
          9600,CM,V32b,V42b,XA,UUUCP,cnx.com,


     This is the runner up!


     7777,ADTBBS,"Phoenix,AZ",
          Aaron Thompson,602-814-9142,
          9600,CM,XA,V32,V42b,VFC,UU CP,
     9,Dehnbase,"Palo,Alto,CA",
          Joe Dehn,650-857-1209,
          9600,XC,CM,V32b,V42b,HST,GUUCP,


     This is a semi gate I guess!


     95,SSSFFF UUCP GATE,"Montreal,Qc",
          Shawn O'Connor,514-769-7546,
          9600,V34,V32b,V42b,CM,XA,,
     998,Internet Fidonet Gate,"Largo,FL",
          Ed Patterson,813-546-7985,
          9600,CM,V34,V32b,V42b,VFC,GUUCP,XA



     FIDONEWS 15-16               Page 50                  20 Apr 1998

     This is a "stealth" gateway with a stealth sysop!


     998,Net 231 UUCP,"Indianapolis,IN",
          Postmaster,317-856-9020,
          9600,XA,CM,V34,V32b, V42b,



                                AND NOW ON TO ZONE 2!

     Say, what is an ENC? I looked at the boittom of nodelist.100
     to no avail. Is it a creature of some sort?


     ,235,ABC-Klubben,Bromma,
          Robert_Burgess,46-8-801523,
          9600,CM,XA,V34,H16,GUUCP,U,E NC
     ,22,R21_Fidonet/Internet_Gateway_2,Oslo,
          Torfinn_Nome,47-22053133,
          9600,V32B,V42B ,V34,VFC,XW,CM,GUUCP



     FIDONEWS 15-16               Page 51                  20 Apr 1998

     AHA! More stealth gateways!


     ,208,Krypta.UUCP,Berlin,
          Alexandros_Gougousoudis,49-30-84709060,
          9600,V32B,V42B,X A,CM
     ,228,Krypta.UUCP_II_ISDN,Berlin,
          Alexandros_Gougousoudis,49-30-84709059,
          300,XA,M O,CM,U,X75,K12
     Hold,401,Thing_BBS_&_UUCP,Berlin,
          Konrad_H._Knauer,49-30-46404271,
          9600,CM,MN,XA, V32B,V34,V42B


     Say, perhaps ENC is short for Eunch?


     ,98,Network2426-Internet-Gateway,Oldenburg,
          Andreas_Braukmann,49-441-9571912,
          960 0,CM,MO,V34,GUUCP,U,ENC
     ,98,UUCP,ftg.donut.de,
          Johann_H._Addicks,49-231-9822122,
          9600,CM,MN,V42B,VFC,V34, U,V110H,X75,ENC
     ,30,UUCP_Gateway_Second_System,Essen,
          Rainer_Boesner,49-201-306904,
          9600,XA,CM,V3 4,VFC,GUUCP,U,X75
     ,25,R25_Fidonet/Demon_Internet_Gateway,London_UK,
          postmaster,44-181-343-3419,
          960 0,CM,H14,V32B,V42B,XA,GUUCP


     FIDONEWS 15-16               Page 52                  20 Apr 1998


     Another "stealth" gateway using stealth technology!


     ,49,Coastmnl/UUCP_Gateway,Prestatyn,
          John_Timmis,44-1745-354129,
          9600,XA,MO,V32B, VFC,V42B
     ,72,wolfnet.com_UUCP_Gateway,London,
          Cesare_Dieni,44-171-354-9949,
          9600,CM,MO,XA, V32B,V34,V42B,VFC,GUUCP


     Is this an "underground" gateway?


     ,6,Nemesis_UUCP_Gateway,London,
          Simon_Cansick,44-171-431-5135,
          9600,CM,XA,V32B,V4 2B,VFC,V34
     ,77,DOSgg_InterNet/UUCP,Heerde,
          Gerard_Hoijtink,31-578-692733,
          9600,XA,CM,MN,H16, V34,VFC,V32T,U,V110L,V110H,X75,ENC
     Pvt,875,Fidonet-Internet_Gateway,Mortsel,
          Wim_Van_Sebroeck,-Unpublished-,
          9600,XX ,GUUCP
     ,1,His_Master's_Voice_I-III_[OS/2],Vienna_A,
          Werner_Illsinger,43-1-600993333,
          960 0,CM,XA,H14,V32B,GUUCP
     ,800,R33_Uucp_Gate,Italy,
          Stefano_Brandimarte,39-85-4455650,
          9600,CM,MO,V34,V42B, GUUCP
     ,2000,fido.hu,Budapest_HUN,
          Krisztian_Czako,36-1-266-6426-3109,
          9600,V32B,V42B,GU UCP


     A "Bass" stealth gateway!


     s3104,BASS_UUCP,Celje,
          Zlatko_Kropf,386-63-442524,
          9600,CM,XA,ZYX,V34,U,ENC



     FIDONEWS 15-16               Page 53                  20 Apr 1998

     A gateway with TV too boot!


     ,999,The_One_Leg_Gateway,Thessaloniki,
          Giannis_Gialamas,30-31-256393,
          9600,V34,MO ,XA,GUUCP,U,TVF
     ,128,R46_fido<->uucp_gate,Kiev_Ukraine,
          GateMaster,380-44-2711881,
          9600,CM,XA,V32 B,V42B,GUUCP


     A gateway without, but a different day of the week I guess.


     ,10,Fido<->Internet_gate,Donetsk,
          Alik_Trakhtman,380-622-923513,
          9600,V34,V32B,V4 2B,MO,GUUCP,U,ENC,TUE
     Pvt,128,Internet<->N5025_Fidonet_Gateway,Voronezh,
          Andy_Igoshin,-Unpublished-,
          96 00,MO,GUUCP


     More stealth technology


     ,375,BugBoard_UUCP_Gateway,Wellington,
          Kevin_Sartorelli,64-4-526-4840,
          9600,V32b, V42b,MO,XA
     ,9,fidour.fidonet.org,Montevideo,
          Juan_Carlos_Alonso,598-2-4099754,
          9600,XA,CM,V3 2B,V34,V42b,MNP,Guucp


     This sysops *C structure just can't read the playbook. They
     must be retired soccer players (too many headers) I guess.

     ,100,BBS_ModemVizio_Fido_Internet_Gateway,Villa_Alemana,
          UUCP,56-32-53-2969,
          9600 ,V32b,V42b,XA,FAX,CM
     ,500,Internet_Gate,Port_Elizabeth_RSA,
          Henk_Wolsink,27-41-515913,
          9600,CM,H16,V32 b,V32t,VFC,V34,V42b,XA,GUUCP
     ,2,The_Catalyst,Port_Elizabeth,
          Henk_Wolsink,27-41-515913,
          9600,CM,H16,V32b,V32t, V34,VFC,V42b,XA,GUUCP,UNEC

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      1 Jun 2000
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     15 Sep 2000
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