F I D O N E W S --       Volume 15, Number 20          18 May 1998
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              Always Check Your Premises Before...

                        Table of Contents
     1. EDITORIAL  ................................................  1
     2. ARTICLES  .................................................  3
        FidoNet European Convention  ..............................  3
        BURY THE DEAD PLEASE *C's!  ...............................  6
     3. COLUMNS  .................................................. 20
        Cabbages and Kings  ....................................... 20
     4. NOTICES  .................................................. 22
        Future History  ........................................... 22
     5. FIDONEWS PUBLIC-KEY  ...................................... 23
        FidoNews PGP Public-Key Listing  .......................... 23
     6. FIDONET BY INTERNET  ...................................... 24
     7. FIDONEWS INFORMATION  ..................................... 26
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     =================================================================
                                 EDITORIAL
     =================================================================


     I had hoped to present an interview with a fellow FidoNet sysop for
     this issue, but the meeting didn't quite turn out as anticipated.
     The notes I did gather were not sufficient to really turn the meeting
     into an interview, so instead we simply enjoyed a break in the bad
     weather plaguing the western coast of Zone 1.

     And I heartily recommend St. Stan's brewpub in Modesto, California,
     the home of Net 208...on a Sunday afternoon, it is quiet, relaxing
     and home to some good quality microbrewery production.

     One point in particular was a current issue over privacy in FidoNet;
     it would seem that many have the idea that you "must" have something
     "to hide" if you use encryption in netmail.

     Few seem willing to understand that encryption is a part of your life
     everyday...credit cards, account numbers, personal identification...
     and that the personal use of encryption merely enhances the security
     of keeping that information confidential.

     There are many in Zone 2 who can also testify on the usefulness of
     personal encryption in getting and keeping free minds and spirits.

     With that, a message of interest was submitted by a sysop in the
     "Zone 7" area as to the view of FidoNet from within the confines of
     the former "Iron Curtain" countries.  I hope to see this, as well as
     more news of the rest of FidoNet.

     One thing that I have noted in several past issues is a call for
     articles and submissions from other Zones for publication here...and
     with very mixed results.

     I do note several Regions have opted to translate issues in the
     language of the Region...but it helps more to actually _have_ the
     information to share with others, so it can be published at large to
     all of FidoNet.  Just because it is an event in your area does not
     mean that no one else is interested.

     As an example, the FidoNet European convention information is posted
     in this issue as an example of what can be presented here...

     And yet...no one on the convention committee posted a copy to the
     FidoNews for announcement by press time, not even the press agent.

     This is _your_ FidoNews, this is _your_ FidoNet...if you don't use
     it, who will?

     In other news, RanD posts another informational tidbit on the lack
     of correct information in the Nodelist...which does have a point,
     even if it does annoy people.

     Doc Logger returns, of course, and looks to be seeing the light a
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     bit at a time...or, at least, getting close enough to see it is a
     light after all.

     And the fun begins in FidoNet once again...

     -zf-


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     =================================================================
                                 ARTICLES
     =================================================================


     FidoNet European Convention

     --------------------------------------------------
     ------- FIDONET'S EUROPEAN CONVENTION 1998 -------
     --------------------------------------------------
     ----------------- THE EUROCON '98 ----------------
     --------------------------------------------------


     -------------------
     - The Place to Be -
     -------------------
     The 1998 EuroCon takes place in Koenigsbrunn, close to AUGSBURG,
     BAVARIA, GERMANY from 3/7/98 to 5/7/98.

     We have rented the whole HOTEL ZELLER, which is the premier hotel
     around.  It's ballroom is cool enough for us, it also features
     three ISDN-ports for the final techno geeks who want to show
     something off...

     Parking is free, the bar will be open as long as anyone can stand.

     -----------------------
     - Speakers & Sponsors -
     -----------------------
     We are still looking for speakers for ANY topic, sex-related
      themes excluded (sorry, folx, there are kids.. :-) ).
     We are also still grateful for anyone who wants to sponsor or
      donate any giveaway for the big tombola Saturday evening.

     ------------------------
     - Organizing Committee -
     ------------------------
     Master of Disaster:  Klaus D. Bader      2:2480/141 or 2:2/1998
     Webmaster:           Werner Ammon        2:2480/92
     Critic:              Franz Scherer       2:2480/73
     Mistress of Kitchen: Sabina Scherer      2:2480/73
     Press:               Stefan Trinkwalder  2:2480/100
     Graphix:             Stefan Hoffmann     2:2480/86

     ----------------------
     - Prices and Payment -
     ----------------------

     All prices are in DEM (German Marks)
     All prices are for one person


     Please do register prior to June 5th.
     Late registration _can_ carry an
     additional late-reg-fee of 50 DM.
     FIDONEWS 15-20               Page 4                   18 May 1998


     Payment is expected shortly after
     reception of the registration form.

     Please do only pay by bank transferral
     to the bank account mentioned below.

     Rooms will be given away at a first-come-first-served basis as we do
     only have a limited number of triple-bed-rooms and also (naturally)
     only a limited number of rooms altogether.

     ---------------------------------
     - Accompanying Person's Program -
     ---------------------------------
     There will be an accompanying person's program for those who want
     to be there, but do not take a bigger interest in the sessions.

     We will organize some interesting activities, esp. for Saturday
     (shopping, visit of Augsburg etc.)

     Please register with the form above and indicate the person
     you are accompanying. We offer a reduction of 60,- DM to
     accompanying persons!

     --------
     - Kids -
     --------
     We will also try to organize some activities for the kids,
     especially some SONY-games.

     Please ask for our special kids-conference-prices as we try to
     organize special arrangements for families.

     Standard arrangements can be seen from the regform which follows:

     --------------------------------------------------------------------
     ====================================================================

     EuroCon '98 Registration Form

     >PLEASE REGISTER BY DIRECT NETMAIL TO
     >Klaus D. Bader 2:2480/88 (ISDN) OR 2:2/1998

     You will receive a routed netmail to validate your registration
     and another netmail to confirm reception of your money.


                 Name: __________________________________________________
         Fido address: __________________________________________________
       e-mail address: __________________________________________________
          Voice phone: __________________________________________________

     Size for T-Shirt:  [ ]  L    [ ]  XL   [ ]  XXL
                       (specific sizes are NOT guaranteed!)

     I will arrive by   [ ]  car
                        [ ]  train (AUGSBURG HBF)
     FIDONEWS 15-20               Page 5                   18 May 1998


                             arrival time & date:_________________

                             from: _______________________________

                        [ ]  plane (MUC)
                             arrival date & time: ________________

                             flightno: ___________________________

     PLEASE NOTE: If you share your room with other people,
                  the others have to register, too!

     Payment by:        [ ]  national money order (Ueberweisung)
                       Bank: Raiffeisenbank Augsburg
                        BLZ: 720 601 00
                      Konto: 78 (kein Tippfehler, ist wirklich so kurz)
                    Inhaber: Klaus D. Bader / KOALA e.V.

                        [ ]  SWIFT money order (please add 5,- DM)
                      SWIFT: GENO DE FF 701 Acc.No. 2100
                       Bank: Raiffeisenbank Augsburg
                    Account: 78
                    Address: Klaus D. Bader / KOALA e.V.

                        [ ]  EuroCheque
                             (foreign currencies please add 10,- DM)
                Sent to and
                 payable to: Klaus D. Bader
                             c/o KOALA e.V.
                             Karwendelstr. 11
                             D-86343 Koenigsbrunn
                             Germany

     Registration packets: (please do only quote the part you need)

     Full-Blown Packet (Fri afternoon - Sun noon)
     -----------------
     [  ] NO ROOM, NO BREAKFAST, convention fee,
          Fri dinner, Sat lunch & dinner, Sun lunch             150,- DM

     [  ] Single room, 2 nights, breakfast, convention fee,
          Fri dinner, Sat lunch & dinner, Sun lunch             320,- DM

     [  ] Double room, 2 nights, breakfast, convention fee,
          Fri dinner, Sat lunch & dinner, Sun lunch             280,- DM

          Please indicate the person you want to share your room with:

          _______________________________________________________

     [  ] Triple room, 2 nights, breakfast, convention fee,
          Fri dinner, Sat lunch & dinner, Sun lunch             255,- DM

          Please indicate the 1st person you want to share your room with:

          _______________________________________________________
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          Please indicate the 2nd person you want to share your room with:

          _______________________________________________________


     Semi-Cool (Saturday morning to Sunday noon)
     ---------
     [  ] NO ROOM, NO BREAKFAST, convention fee,
          Sat lunch & dinner, Sun lunch                         125,- DM

     [  ] Single room, 1 night, breakfast, convention fee,
          Sat lunch & dinner, Sun lunch                         210,- DM

     [  ] Double room, 1 night, breakfast, convention fee,
          Sat lunch & dinner, Sun lunch                         190,- DM

          Please indicate the person you want to share your room with:

          _______________________________________________________

     [  ] Triple room, 2 nights, breakfast, convention fee,
          Fri dinner, Sat lunch & dinner, Sun lunch             175,- DM

          Please indicate the 1st person you want to share your room with:

          _______________________________________________________

          Please indicate the 2nd person you want to share your room with:

          _______________________________________________________


     Essential (Saturday only)
     ---------
     [  ] No ROOM, NO BREAKFAST, convention fee,
          Sat lunch & dinner                                   100,- DM

     --------------------------------------------------------------------

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     -----------------------------------------------------------------


     BURY THE DEAD PLEASE *C's! The stench in Fidonet is bad enought!
     by RanD, 1:141/1030

     The  following  nodes  have  been  marked  down  for at least the
     following nodelists; nodelist.121, nodelist.128 and nodelist.135.
     Do you think that our illustrious and glorious *C structure could
     find the time to  do the job they  were appointed to do  and cull
     the dead wood into either HOLD piles or failing that perform  the
     ultimate aztec sacrifice and exorcise them from the nodelist.   I
     mean, gimme a break, we mark unpublished nodes as down?   Private
     is  already  not  reachable  by  the  fidonet grunt sysop.  These
     granite  tombstone  markers  etched  with  the names and nodes of
     sysops who have fallen in  the holy war on the  internet deserved
     FIDONEWS 15-20               Page 7                   18 May 1998


     an appropriate interment.   Are the  unpublised ones the  tomb of
     the unknown sysops?  These 678 nodes are either gone or on  hold.
     What  the  *C  structure  doesn't  want  to  admit, is that their
     administrative-node-to-grunt-syso-node ratio  is soaring  as they
     shore  up  the  nodelist  with  the  dead bodies of former nodes.
     Fidonet is  dying.   The *C's  should have  a heart  and bury the
     bodies as P4 says to, mainly 2 weeks after they are marked  down.
     They need to stop the pattern of self delusion that the  nodelist
     is still big  and that one  day, like the  prodigal child, sysops
     will return  home to  the nodelist.   Dozens  of these nodes have
     been marked down for many months and a few for years!




     102 -=[ Mega BBS #2 ]=-              -Unpublished-
     25  Megatronics BBS                  -Unpublished-
     28  GrindStone Online Distribuion    -Unpublished-
     3   Stray Cat                        -Unpublished-
     32  Scout's Honour BBS               -Unpublished-
     343 The Bird's Nest                  -Unpublished-
     611 Mumbo Jumbo Line I               -Unpublished-
     740 Mayday Software                  -Unpublished-
     77  Muse Studio BBS                  -Unpublished-
     7777MTB [Down:05-04-98]              -Unpublished-
     970 Give and Take BBS                1-215-467-1398
     201 Bob's Bored BBS                  1-215-788-8459
     16  Politzania                       1-217-359-1081
     29  Quest                            1-217-875-3259
     2000The Jupiter Project              1-219-936-3146
     4231The Galactic WarZone BBS         1-281-498-4231
     317 AdventureQuest V - The Tower     1-303-280-0205
     345 The What Up BBS                  1-303-371-3335
     286 FISBBS                           1-303-429-3513
     356 Trantor BBS                      1-303-670-7947
     605 MICAP(sm) Network                1-303-762-7852
     792 Practically Pointless            1-303-838-4681
     27  Blue Powder BBS                  1-304-727-6733
     641 The I.B.S.A. BBS                 1-310-204-4205
     2   SoCalNet EC                      1-310-553-6379
     611 Spec-Com                         1-319-583-6462
     545 MID-NITE REQUESTS BBS            1-319-752-1189
     505 SVBBSystem II                    1-330-545-0093
     90  Brink of Reality                 1-352-375-6035
     1994Paradise Island                  1-352-726-7681
     196 Dreadnaught BBS                  1-360-891-6756
     1023Eric's                           1-401-434-6658
     1025Dark Empire                      1-401-785-2144
     25  Southeast CC                     1-402-223-2889
     2   Paradise Xpress                  1-402-228-7392
     64  Sky Realm's BBS                  1-402-291-1023
     22  Wayne State College              1-402-375-7564
     27  Central CC                       1-402-461-2442
     17  Mystic Tower                     1-402-464-8196
     16  The Peed BBS                     1-402-477-2587
     23  Columbus CC                      1-402-564-3913
     FIDONEWS 15-20               Page 8                   18 May 1998


     24  Northeast CC                     1-402-644-0685
     5013Backbone Hub 5013                1-403-472-8089
     1024Layzner SPT-LZ-00X               1-404-762-3050
     777 WaterHole No.7                   1-405-733-1949
     19  Low Clearance BBS                1-407-574-3239
     3   Genius At Work                   1-407-574-7303
     370 The Village                      1-408-229-0706
     364 NorCal Online                    1-408-929-1064
     368 Gnome's Guest House              1-408-977-7044
     628 The CopShop                      1-410-833-8933
     314 AWEsome bbs                      1-412-734-2129
     313 Basement Records BBS             1-412-795-8523
     475 Nightingale BBS                  1-415-292-7314
     1010The Warriors BBS                 1-416-491-4969
     106 Night BBS                        1-418-839-4666
     101 SpellBound                       1-502-935-3600
     180 Louisville Hot House             1-502-969-3806
     208 Oregon Trails BBS                1-503-655-4645
     108 The LHC BBS                      1-509-663-1814
     69  Drivel Head BBS                  1-512-939-9535
     4   After Hour Computer Shop BBS     1-512-993-0763
     1   The SeaHorse BBS                 1-512-994-9643
     140 Blue Moon BBS                    1-514-723-3218
     125 The Mall BBS                     1-520-459-6821
     878 House Of Hammer                  1-530-878-2239
     301 WORMWooD                         1-530-878-8927
     56  The OWM Jefferson City Node      1-573-634-0393
     79  QuestStar!                       1-573-634-5364
     19  LUCS Board                       1-573-681-5493
     84  Draconian's Lair                 1-573-761-3294
     254 The Wizard's Corner              1-602-247-9367
     152 Fire! And Ice                    1-602-336-8850
     19  Construction Net V               1-602-488-0656
     121 AMUG Preferred                   1-602-553-0721
     56  AZ MAC UG                        1-602-553-0749
     205 Falcon's Nest BBS                1-602-581-7827
     110 Kitty's Sandbox                  1-602-829-7522
     185 The Berlin Connection            1-602-834-4962
     323 The Black Stallion BBS           1-602-834-6550
     143 Ariseth Keep                     1-602-843-0998
     260 The Union Jack BBS               1-602-914-4162
     2600The Union Jack BBS               1-602-914-4162
     502 The Emerald Keep                 1-602-930-8247
     47  Land Of Nomad                    1-602-936-5587
     503 INFO Zone                        1-602-937-7780
     491 The Blue Room                    1-602-938-4277
     253 The DESERT BBS                   1-602-942-1584
     27  The Tiger's Den                  1-602-992-9879
     38  The RoadKill BBS                 1-605-331-1023
     4070Black Hole BBS                   1-612-444-6698
     202 CedarCrest                       1-613-525-0537
     113 Grave Digger BBS                 1-613-938-1589
     800 Rogers' BBS!                     1-614-274-8556
     150 Silver Lining                    1-614-836-5604
     10  Leisure Time                     1-618-397-5825
     1511Chem-tronics Computer Club BBS   1-619-258-5286
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     314 Pea's Keep                       1-619-291-6746
     1630Tierra-Miga                      1-619-292-0712
     354 OS/2 Connection                  1-619-549-4215
     1513Buck's Place BBS                 1-619-579-8526
     112 The Hobby Shop                   1-619-596-0821
     1631Quantum Interactive Online       1-619-689-0177
     902 The Library BBS                  1-626-914-0221
     222 The Board                        1-702-399-6375
     310 Underdark BBS                    1-704-279-8402
     402 Spirit BBS                       1-704-297-5973
     108 G-2                              1-704-324-6164
     11  Global Access BBS                1-704-334-9030
     48  Shadow Graphics                  1-704-532-8392
     605 Basement BBS                     1-704-628-9908
     309 Batcave BBS                      1-704-633-9705
     114 The Holler BBS                   1-704-688-2472
     402 Single Modem Line                1-704-788-2929
     1200STANLY COUNTY HUB                1-704-982-9223
     1201King's Dominion                  1-704-982-9223
     30  Mostly Country                   1-705-253-3120
     906 Keymaster's Inferno              1-706-866-6927
     7   Covenant Keeper BBS              1-707-987-3022
     690 Red Jacket School                1-716-289-3926
     150 T. A. B. B. S.                   1-716-837-6050
     712 Blue Light Special               1-717-957-9230
     9   Modems Delight Node 1            1-719-547-0604
     237 Vector Time Point BBS            1-719-599-9533
     6001Hub 600 EchoMail Coordinator     1-732-324-2617
     677 The Nut House                    1-732-324-2617
     636 Dark Waters                      1-732-603-7947
     120 The Maven's Roost                1-732-940-8810
     15  Utopia's Cookie Jar              1-765-548-0534
     50  The Fast Lane BBS                1-765-664-2043
     215 Freedom's Choice:CBCS/VETLink #181-781-593-2605
     619 The Village BBS                  1-802-223-0866
     1019The Grinder                      1-805-527-1830
     1008MODEM ONE BBS                    1-805-582-1534
     220 Computer God!!!                  1-805-946-9832
     19  The HamShack BBS                 1-816-796-6695
     715 The Promise                      1-817-295-8571
     830 The Wizard of OS/2               1-818-503-7632
     919 Sleuth                           1-818-727-7658
     801 The Fantasy Factory              1-818-768-5153
     866 Cross Connection                 1-818-786-9233
     601 Streamline                       1-860-445-8319
     33  The Extravaganza BBS             1-864-322-8767
     72  Quick's Room                     1-901-360-0317
     2721Demo Land Online                 1-904-278-0453
     2717Cheyenne's Reservation           1-904-291-7833
     51  DreamScapes                      1-904-693-1907
     27  The GrindStone BBS Node 1        1-904-734-2916
     140 The Game Room                    1-904-778-3760
     4   CD Mania                         1-904-789-4786
     9003WVFN-Deltona  EDS-3              1-904-789-4786
     17  The Night Owl BBS                1-904-789-8452
     209 The Psycho BBS                   1-905-527-2057
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     108 The HOLO-DECK BBS                1-905-575-9826
     614 Compro Systems                   1-905-987-3777
     7   Freedom of Speech                1-910-691-1121
     11  Information Plus                 1-910-852-8664
     80  Emerald BBS                      1-913-776-7359
     49  Holiday BBS                      1-916-921-9949
     515 Encounters BBS                   1-920-469-2663
     645 Eagles Nest                      1-920-729-1157
     623 Joe's Place                      1-920-734-7144
     655 Future Generation                1-920-739-8242
     640 Midnight Oil                     1-920-832-0686
     43  GhostComm BBS                    30-31-812104
     3   Surfer                           30-623-42406
     209 EDC                              31-10-4184257
     309 WestPoint II                     31-10-4382548
     707 Eddy's Postorder VOF             31-181-327172
     451 Gunbiker                         31-24-6415029
     61  Commodore BBS                    31-252-621144
     807 THESMI BBS                       31-255-516133
     163 HCC Forth BBS                    31-26-4422164
     703 Elcom HUB West II                31-30-2801586
     616 End Of Line                      31-318-430201
     458 Elusive Dream BBS                31-38-3868264
     724 ToFra Software BBS               31-475-537027
     100 ProgrammaTel                     31-512-541943
     317 Medusa                           31-53-4313082
     459 Dragon Lore BBS                  31-570-650712
     611 EarthQuake BBS                   31-79-3290568
     634 FibreBridge Services             31-79-3427732
     504 CompuMed-BBS *1*                 32-3-2395386
     2237Musique BBS                      32-4-2264949
     3221Cryo BBS                         32-71-812290
     1928Apocalyps                        32-9-2322794
     9928Apocalyps ISDN                   32-9-2324209
     16  SGS-THOMSON Micros               33-442291416
     22  D.I.E ISDN                       33-493122093
     21  D.I.E                            33-493122155
     31  LiM BBX                          34-942-542496
     5   Irakasle BBS                     34-943-714063
     9   Deusto BBS                       34-944-130397
     12  Euskal Amiga                     34-944-219718
     17  TopSexcret BBX                   34-944-316179
     21  Quasar                           34-948-162628
     18  32 Bits BBS                      34-965251953
     18  Music                            351-1-4537461
     15  Skylab                           351-1-7210045
     1100Quark 2                          351-1-7510365
     31  Circuits                         351-1-7579742
     17  High Flight                      351-2-5511509
     19  Ants'Nest                        351-39-20203
     50  Praxis                           351-39-33685
     12  Cyber Dreams                     351-53-215214
     19  WannaBee                         351-53-514495
     46  Files R Us                       351-56-754530
     51  Old Timer                        351-56-7580162
     780 HOOVER                           358-6-8314347
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     21  Nus+                             359-2-518306
     34  PolyNet                          359-52-889421
     90  More BBS                         371-2573108
     26  Rusty Bolt                       371-7248115
     888 Bane Mailer                      372-2479764
     777 Crazy BBS                        372-6325552
     44  Humpy                            380-322-426090
     73  LLM                              380-322-646978
     93  Studio Leva's BBS                380-322-729268
     63  Integral&Servis                  380-322-742459
     2   VT Station                       380-36-2279797
     14  Sail BBS                         380-38-22-22222
     13  Renesance Station                380-38-22-65762
     41  Soft Laboratory BBS              380-432-263082
     1   muppet show bbs                  380-4337-26122
     282 TV-Station                       380-44-2294125
     243 DrugMan Station                  380-44-2432438
     43  Dangerous Man bMG                380-44-2454878
     111 Trodat Soft                      380-44-2455832
     1024TechnoDaemon's Station           380-44-2634108
     110 Inominatus SyStem                380-44-2778072
     4630Site of UPC #1                   380-44-4136872
     292 Savage                           380-44-5135505
     161 Tracker's Line                   380-44-5156606
     196 Technica                         380-44-5190462
     919 OurHut                           380-44-5703268
     7   Future Crew                      380-4463-66369
     2   Tesseract Corner                 380-482-280408
     27  Restricted Zone                  380-482-323225
     48  First Angle                      380-482-474592
     30  TRASH                            380-482-680984
     14  Big Bug Source                   380-482-688149
     10  Moonlit Software/2               380-552-274361
     7   Seven Winds                      380-552-512363
     311 Hovard Software                  380-562-323688
     21  Medicon Service                  380-562-461097
     11  V-Topol                          380-562-762267
     327 Agent Private                    380-572-262560
     109 NightBird Nest                   380-572-634851
     78  OXO-gen                          380-622-220482
     101 South Design                     380-622-354850
     29  Advertizing Center               380-622-921638
     76  Television "7x7"                 380-622-936733
     7   -=Polyglot=- Club                380-6232-43397
     97  Fenol                            380-6247-33669
     134 FinExpert                        380-6272-29109
     5   Chaos                            380-6452-27718
     9   Impuls                           380-6452-98149
     10  Crimea Island                    380-652-250113
     33  Roadhouse                        380-6561-21187
     102 DiamonD WorkGroups BBS           380-692-447586
     115 Marx Station                     380-692-454349
     67  SPI BBS                          380-692-590516
     138 DurLAN SGI                       381-18-713836
     186 X-Treme                          381-78-56562
     177 Kentaur 1                        381-81-16614
     FIDONEWS 15-20               Page 12                  18 May 1998


     178 Kentaur 2                        381-81-44675
     109 BUG BBS                          385-1-301897
     149 Fractal BBS                      385-20-813411
     156 Peri BBS                         385-21-320498
     136 Endrigo BBS                      385-21-500024
     103 GAMA                             387-72-27-765
     404 BES 95                           39-51-389464
     106 A-BBS                            39-55-225727
     121 Essedi BBS                       39-55-354577
     109 TEL-IN                           39-55-432429
     125 SystemShock 1                    39-55-499038
     105 M Link/Macmusic                  39-55-599369
     130 Isengard BBS                     39-55-6812256
     609 ValMedical                       39-571-242193
     134 La Piramide BBS                  39-572-70032
     103 Utopia                           39-573-368164
     111 G.a.m.p. BBS                     39-573-631233
     113 Eclipse                          39-574-21882
     112 Riders of Lost Carrier           39-574-690855
     116 EUROBBS                          39-574-950189
     119 PAN                              39-575-24676
     128 PRIMA BBS                        39-577-223473
     110 Unreal BBS#1                     39-577-56105
     118 Glass Globe                      39-577-959054
     332 Mimac 3 SBDI                     39-6-35403152
     321 Argo                             39-6-5191770
     358 PNRA Link                        39-6-5826841
     359 HELL                             39-6-6664270
     389 Manga                            39-6-80687821
     394 RomAmigA                         39-6-86899687
     378 Alfa 2-Italy                     39-6-9063562
     622 SunStone                         39-871-800002
     534 Speed Of Life II                 39-931-578177
     722 BYTE                             39-961-31997
     305 BIOHAZARD                        40-1-250-9630
     501 DEATH World/2 line 2             40-1-610-5703
     327 CCTI                             41-22-7868587
     330 HANDY - AMIGALAND #1             41-27-4568131
     332 HANDY - AMIGALAND #2             41-27-4568132
     367 HANDY - AMIGALAND ISDN           41-27-4568133
     764 Wyna-BBS                         41-62-7765014
     765 Toggline BBS (ISDN X.75)         41-71-9940041
     766 Toggline BBS (ISDN V110)         41-71-9940042
     705 Toggline BBS (USRobotics)        41-71-9940044
     121 Thunder Box 2                    41-91-6001222
     242 RM II                            420-19-224887
     61  HS Nymburk                       420-325-2752
     34  ELO Computers                    420-616-25765
     72  Villa BBS system                 420-634-330583
     61  Jezek BBS                        420-66-32659
     800 The Home of the Lost Clusters    43-1-257377040
     114 Amiga LIVE! BBS                  43-1-3680102
     84  Die Informationszentrale         43-1-3910385
     118 the newsroom bbs                 43-1-4852575
     9   Teddy-Bear-BBS                   43-1-5261051
     510 VIS                              43-1-5815160
     FIDONEWS 15-20               Page 13                  18 May 1998


     1001His Master's Voice  V [OS/2]     43-1-600993333
     107 UNITED NETWORKS                  43-1-6044469
     6969XANDL's BBS [ISDN]               43-1-8045650
     622 Communication Center ONE[1]      43-1-8045753
     44  G-System                         43-1-9795506
     88  Out of the ordinary BBS          43-1-9834505
     850 THE WEREWOLF                     43-1-9843185
     44  The Fright Night BBS             43-2243-313440
     23  The Dream Team BBS               43-2628-61299
     42  CCCat                            43-2742-356266
     65  Buffalo BBS                      43-3332-61264
     99  MultiNet System                  43-7223-81172-2
     80  Bauernkaff-BBS                   43-7227-8949
     12  Elminster's Tower                43-7435-52205
     444 Inn4tel BBS                      43-7754-2992
     406 Power Up                         44-1207-542437
     608 Dragon's Domain                  44-1222-627411
     701 Black Cat BBS                    44-1222-707359
     109 Cambridge Classic                44-1223-216118
     41  THE SLEEZY LAB BBS               44-1303-253677
     404 Mr T's                           44-1325-307918
     39  Ecosse                           44-1387-721477
     10  The Dark Hours                   44-141-5715475
     705 The Club BBs                     44-1423-541363
     62  Rigel -5-                        44-1482-355163
     64  Duval City BBS                   44-1482-449343
     26  These Days                       44-1482-573617
     413 Hull College DDLG[SNC]           44-1482-586711
     63  Dark Knights BBS                 44-1482-788389
     88  Unicorn                          44-1482-790496
     69  Techno Nites                     44-1482-812017
     191 The Empty Slot BBS               44-161-281-2856
     600 Scorpion Mail Server [Line 2]    44-171-278-1146
     129 The Plymouth Area BBS            44-1752-252366
     403 The Bad Lands                    44-1968-679725
     27  CyberCom BBS                     45-38111545
     30  The Total Perspective Vortex     45-63120200
     51  BC-Soft BBS                      45-65312764
     205 TopGun BBS                       45-75-143370
     173 No Limit BBS                     45-8618-9992
     99  View of Darkness                 45-8628-6626
     262 Jutlandia BBS                    45-8637-6550
     60  Pertos Asshole Amiga-PC BBS#1    45-87-340480
     20  Flaming Moon BBS                 45-87-520103
     222 Digisoft BBS                     46-11-187217
     202 Nordic #2                        46-13-214384
     203 Nordic #3                        46-13-214854
     229 Nordic #4                        46-13-214854
     243 MjolkCentralen                   46-141-70579
     130 HAL9000 node 3                   46-18-501352
     124 HAL9000 node 1                   46-18-504865
     160 The Golder Beer Inn BBS          46-19-127909
     152 Looser Inn                       46-19-187403
     156 Malfunction                      46-19-240285
     155 Tuben BBS                        46-19-291011
     163 THA HiDEOUT                      46-19-6112313
     FIDONEWS 15-20               Page 14                  18 May 1998


     317 Digital Zone                     46-226-10232
     202 Eriksson's Bbs #4                46-270-427324
     265 Eriksson's Bbs #3                46-270-428055
     138 TFO                              46-40-407284
     622 Cold Beer                        46-44-126995
     629 C.O.O.L                          46-44-129070
     624 Newmill BBS                      46-44-217217
     623 Incertus BBS                     46-44-229190
     621 Absolut BBS                      46-44-247248
     220 Vasterviks Gymnasium             46-490-88280
     643 Shadow Zone BBS                  46-54-568007
     625 Decades                          46-54-831561
     617 PC Station                       46-552-10427
     159 Midnight Sun                     46-581-14451
     141 Zenith BBS                       46-581-30496
     620 T.L.L                            46-8-324685
     449 Xanadu BBS                       46-8-918390
     508 ELINGE BBS                       46-90-138440
     516 The CrossWay BBS                 46-90-50083
     501 Datafiluren                      46-930-20911
     33  The StarWars BBS [24h]           48-119-46207
     52  JR-Mail BBS [2300-0700]          48-22-408770
     85  TeRRoRGaRDeN inbound gateway     48-22-6228552
     80  TeRRoRGaRDeN                     48-22-6485588
     105 xAB.oRG [24h]                    48-22-6596183
     43  The Fanatic BBS [DCF77]          48-22-8261983
     39  Alien BBS [24h]                  48-54-312977
     54  CountDown MO Node [ZMH]          48-91-4357145
     50  FX20 BBS [2200-0700]             48-91-4357892
     1435Dustin's New Special             49-201-329653
     1081STARBASE 108-1                   49-201-413095
     1436Dustin's New Special ISDN        49-201-8315008
     1428Calles Point                     49-201-8761122
     2001KAMPUS ISDN                      49-203-752080
     6015Lucky BBS                        49-2051-989323
     310 WARLORD'S BATTLEFIELD 1          49-2052-961023
     309 WARLORD'S BATTLEFIELD 2          49-2052-961024
     308 WARLORD'S BATTLEFIELD 3+4 (ISDN) 49-2052-961025
     368 ginko-bbs                        49-208-384001
     1412Sunshine BBS                     49-208-779879
     349 Formel1 BBS Line 1               49-208-865589
     354 Formel1 BBS Line 2               49-208-865592
     1413Sunshine BBS ISDN-EL310          49-208-9926131
     428 Domingo                          49-209-375522
     770 Pascal Server                    49-2151-933220
     93  B.E.A.M.                         49-2241-343098
     1009FireworkerS BBS                  49-228-697403
     406 CHRONOLOGIE                      49-231-525775
     1427BoMS                             49-2324-971382
     1640Byte-Line 1                      49-2325-988950
     1641Byte-Line 2                      49-2325-988951
     1642Byte-Line 3                      49-2325-988952
     416 WINNI                            49-2331-65829
     450 Cygnus                           49-2335-974929
     325 Animal Mothers's Home            49-234-680844
     628 Souvenir BBS                     49-234-9620347
     FIDONEWS 15-20               Page 15                  18 May 1998


     135 Weibercafe                       49-261-9113757
     50  Higli-Box                        49-261-9422648
     92  Freiheit                         49-2632-953414
     380 SIEG-BOX ISDN                    49-271-71697
     311 Imperium BBS                     49-2821-74658
     402 Thing ISDNServer                 49-30-46404273
     401 Thing BBS & UUCP                 49-30-4642166
     7301ESA-BOX                          49-3691-29930
     7304ESA-BOX                          49-3691-743000
     7302ESA-BOX ISDN                     49-3691-743001
     7305ESA-BOX                          49-3691-743001
     7303ESA-BOX ISDN                     49-3691-743002
     5171BBS Am Bahnhof LINE 2            49-37209-80160
     5170BBS Am Bahnhof LINE 1            49-37209-80170
     5130Vogtland I                       49-37421-28611
     5131Vogtland II                      49-37421-28612
     9031Strela-Box-ISDN                  49-3831-310307
     9030Strela-Box                       49-3831-390560
     9050Ingo's Box                       49-38326-65885
     9040Oliver's Box                     49-38326-65889
     9070KIDS-21                          49-3981-24750
     5781TIGER-BBS #2                     49-40-366013
     5462Campe Box                        49-4154-841648
     4018Fun & Pleasure                   49-4191-959827
     2001on the other line ISDN           49-441-940083
     2090The Drugstore                    49-4421-998393
     2091The Drugstore                    49-4421-998394
     2340aZMODAN's lair                   49-4499-1318
     32  DatenBahn BBS                    49-5085-6116
     43  Datenbahn BBS ISDN               49-5085-955975
     306 DiGiTaL NiGHTMARE VI             49-5121-157108
     305 DiGiTaL NiGHTMARE  V             49-5121-157636
     330 Trick or Treat BBS               49-5121-33919
     840 PC-ONLiNE Network WHQ            49-5201-849885
     870 XTC Line I                       49-5231-592758
     219 SpieleKiste BBS                  49-551-43753
     305 M.B.N.I. ComputerSystems II (V34)49-6102-59348
     304 M.B.N.I. ComputerSystems I (ISDN)49-6102-756493
     1369Die Siedlung im Wald             49-6103-947090
     1542AERO Flightpoint BBS             49-6196-28534
     6628Elektronet HQ                    49-6301-33578
     231 Chako's BBS II                   49-6441-97161
     213 Chako's BBS                      49-6441-97162
     323 GiGa-BaSe Line 1                 49-651-80814
     317 Grave BBS 28.8                   49-651-96260
     316 Grave BBS iSDN                   49-651-96261
     324 GiGa-BaSe Line 2                 49-651-9980267
     365 Andi's Inn                       49-6591-985045
     375 Waldy's Datenwueste              49-6599-961039
     1280GAGERN BOX                       49-69-21237788
     1160fts6only                         49-69-94430008
     6007Vladi's Videohaus                49-7031-760932
     6008Vladi's Videohaus [ISDN]         49-7031-760932
     1822Camelot OS/2 ISDN                49-7033-537837
     1824Camelot OS/2                     49-7033-537838
     205 AFU-BOX                          49-7131-507456
     FIDONEWS 15-20               Page 16                  18 May 1998


     1817InfoPool Stuttgart (IPS)         49-7152-997497
     1420Oppelsbohmer Dorfbox #2          49-7181-972802
     9092[ UNITY III ISDN ]               49-7392-911051
     9093[ UNITY IV ISDN ]                49-7392-911052
     9090[ UNITY I V.34 ]                 49-7392-912213
     9091[ UNITY II V.34 ]                49-7392-912214
     8211Jeronymo Port 2                  49-7424-5461
     8230EFFATAH                          49-7461-8102
     8060Little-FHF                       49-7723-50032
     3730Little Black Box 1 ISDN          49-8191-971000
     3731Little Black Box 2               49-8191-971001
     24  crazy 0815                       49-8231-91230
     1503RA Support 3 Analog              49-911-9975810
     1501RA Support 1 ISDN                49-911-9975813
     1502RA Support 2 ISDN                49-911-9975814
     1970Predator BBS 1                   49-9131-710177
     1971Predator BBS 2                   49-9131-710178
     1511ComDas BBS 2 ISDN                49-9132-798064
     1510ComDas BBS 1 Analog              49-9132-798065
     4002CCB e.V. II                      49-921-39814
     3333Schweinestall/2                  49-9403-7238
     315 Free Support-System              49-9405-961022
     8005ELECTRIX-SUPPORT BOX             49-9824-93100
     2   MegaLink                         52-14-16-3194
     11  Mercurio BBS                     52-28-40-1412
     10  Canal-PC                         52-29-35-4737
     4   Soft Code BBS                    52-3-647-5621
     5   CARRIER BBS                      52-3-679-2017
     105 ATA                              54-51-25-4874
     172 Giudice BBS                      55-11-843-0336
     56  JM BBS                           55-21-264-4923
     15  BIOHARDWARE                      55-21-267-6944
     86  WU! BBS                          55-21-286-9743
     48  Toca da Raposa                   55-21-322-0572
     22  ASMail                           55-21-372-1385
     84  SESP-BBS                         55-21-396-7371
     52  Undercover BBS                   55-21-431-2158
     13  Junt Software BBS                55-21-551-7136
     72  Scorpion BBS                     55-21-552-9478
     89  Shout BOARD                      55-21-553-8793
     92  Techno File Cartel               55-21-571-4752
     50  Campos Network                   55-247-22-5664
     15  Jason Lives BBS                  55-41-24-2155
     20  Premium BBS                      55-41-253-3553
     4   Red Baron BBS                    55-41-254-4907
     7   SnR BBS                          55-51-342-7106
     404 NetServ                          55-61-443-8003
     1   Valparaiso On-Line BBS           56-32-91-3067
     10  Microtekno BBS                   56-32-97-7219
     7   The Lost Road                    60-3-2530964
     416 K.K.K. BBS                       61-2-9418-6005
     111 The OnLine Tryst                 61-2-9601-2232
     920 1st Community Network            61-2-9628-3855
     617 SCI-FI Haven BBS                 61-2-9629-3652
     918 MIDI Plus                        61-2-9820-7640
     921 tHE uNdeRgRoUNd bBs              61-2-9898-0357
     FIDONEWS 15-20               Page 17                  18 May 1998


     319 Blue Marlin                      61-47-76-1211
     120 Cosmic                           63-2-245-6879
     103 EMail Company                    63-2-635-4152
     305 Pilipinas Sierra HQ              63-2-715-3807
     1   C.E.B.U. BBS * Node 1            63-32-231-3797
     20  Eastern Star                     63-47-223-5004
     300 JayBee's                         64-6-836-6229
     315 Phoenix                          64-6-876-5865
     245 AnArchy OnLine BBS               65-2353217
     225 MAGIC's 32                       65-2421133
     806 Every Minutes BBS                65-2805590
     811 SuPPort Xentre BBS               65-3377669
     807 I-Chi-Ban BBS                    65-3388527
     414 Nato/2                           65-3444937
     244 X-Link BBS                       65-3452083
     403 The Elite Plus Bulletin Board    65-3542825
     810 Dark Domains BBS                 65-3655162
     251 ICE BLUE BBS                     65-440-1229
     409 SpaceCamp BBS                    65-4552157
     805 Footprints BBS                   65-458-3496
     211 Hwa Chong Planet                 65-4622508
     256 New Alliance                     65-4633971
     803 Task Force 9000 #1               65-4660097
     804 Task Force 9000 #2               65-4666657
     412 HourGlass Trinity 1991           65-7412932
     255 The Dawn Raiders BBS             65-7535901
     9   Hogbens BBS                      7-0112-465888
     13  Binom Line 2                     7-081-266-1336
     2   AT Station                       7-0855-210503
     16  Warlock's Private                7-091-232-5000
     26  Servis TV                        7-093-223-1323
     3   Spika                            7-094-2516936
     10  Buy Net                          7-094-3522484
     735 Sunrise                          7-095-362-5513
     1510SM's Productions                 7-095-570-5820
     3   Netwanderer's residence          7-0967-634887
     24  Rot Kopf                         7-321-274-0972
     9   Eurasian News                    7-327-250-7065
     133 ADIS                             7-343-2243745
     63  MikeSoft                         7-343-2560632
     89  EHP                              7-343-2921233
     59  Holiday                          7-343-2939814
     16  Wanderer I                       7-343-9276627
     205 BKB                              7-34711-51209
     200 School System                    7-34711-68090
     39  Coliseum BBS                     7-3472-313-121
     47  Link                             7-3472-37-5400
     160 SBCCD BBS                        7-35222-26541
     18  PromBANK                         7-35222-33202
     16  Digital Art                      7-35222-56543
     31  Corvin                           7-3532-775236
     3   CTC's Node                       7-363-235-0023
     66  Auto Mail System                 7-363-244-4760
     29  Amber Illusion                   7-381-256-3747
     3   PCB                              7-3852-24-8698
     8   Die Hard                         7-3852-26-2825
     FIDONEWS 15-20               Page 18                  18 May 1998


     97  Terrible Perfection              7-395-227-0020
     57  Helios                           7-395-232-9023
     45  Dim Killer's Station             7-395-233-6729
     79  Simona                           7-395-233-8817
     121 Value Point                      7-395-234-9631
     78  Data Research                    7-395-236-8428
     9   music drain                      7-423-226-7366
     31  Larry Laffer II                  7-423-228-6237
     2   Paradise                         7-423-231-2577
     1   Far Post War Dream Machine       7-423-232-9418
     3   Pskov Beer Club                  7-8112-160043
     152 Slayer                           7-812-105-5955
     279 Naked Gun's                      7-812-110-1113
     574 Transfinit                       7-812-112-8674
     676 IP HUB Project                   7-812-164-1255
     605 Aragorn                          7-812-235-3339
     610 Jane System Station              7-812-238-1097
     358 FOSSTIL BBS                      7-812-239-6412
     119 SWAP drop                        7-812-249-8399
     201 Night Scorpione BBS              7-812-265-6179
     319 Deon Station                     7-812-275-5078
     360 Shepherd Moons                   7-812-279-2856
     242 Dragon Station                   7-812-310-6713
     154 infra                            7-812-314-3047
     543 Sleeping Station                 7-812-325-2306
     146 Security Station                 7-812-327-8095
     31  Night Star                       7-812-327-8096
     376 AT's Break Point                 7-812-347-1830
     349 Cambion Station                  7-812-351-6771
     337 AKWI Computing station           7-812-356-4158
     343 Earl Grey Station                7-812-393-4043
     225 Compromise                       7-812-394-0025
     29  Neptun                           7-812-422-7012
     192 Palmira                          7-812-470-4482
     354 LIS Station                      7-812-541-0131
     197 FORMULA-1                        7-812-555-6233
     558 Aiesec BBS                       7-812-580-2329
     2   Gymnasium N1                     7-816-223-4842
     1   Flat Trunk by GZ                 7-831-2-318061
     6   GAI UVD                          7-8332-629317
     23  SB                               7-8442-936446
     11  BestFire Pro BBS Line#1          7-8469-342444
     11  Bossic World Station             7-847-2263563
     24  Hell Block                       7-86344-46116
     33  Licey                            7-86344-61692
     408 Moon Gate Partner                852-2351-5082
     32  CityU's BBS                      852-2411-5610
     692 Avatar BBS                       852-2458-7972
     322 Po Chi Lam                       852-2511-0661
     656 <  < <<VooDoo Junkie>> >  >      852-2524-1469
     827 Game City                        852-2539-7092
     614 Stealth Fighter Board            852-2559-7106
     510 Metamorphose BBS                 852-2562-5108
     16  ZyXEL Support [Nebula #6]        852-2577-7515
     695 Jordan/2 Network                 852-2578-9447
     155 <<Ashley Board>>-OS/2-Line2      852-2580-0110
     FIDONEWS 15-20               Page 19                  18 May 1998


     280 PencilPoint                      852-2598-4409
     329 SFC BBS                          852-2606-6161
     91  Int'l Compufans Network          852-2609-4087
     1   TAIC Maximus-CBCS                852-2631-1994
     8   HK PC User Group Software Library852-2631-2540
     323 Comics World BBS                 852-2637-4873
     370 Comics World BBS                 852-2637-4873
     57  City Connection BBS              852-2657-3381
     399 DataZone                         852-2667-5889
     795 Brave New World                  852-2706-6216
     758 Paramount BBS                    852-2768-8397
     320 Tai Hung BBS                     852-2773-9933
     368 [Spy #4]Spy Arena                852-2785-7076
     784 <: Vision Studio :>              852-2858-5826
     130 <<Ashley Board>>-OS/2-Line1      852-2871-0272
     94  Back to the Future BBS           852-2886-5904
     721 Sirius of Milky Way              852-2887-8587
     235 Pearl                            852-2898-7297
     297 Angel Land                       852-2984-1168
     26  Federal BBS                      86-10-6264-7865
     10  CiX The CyberInfo Exchange       91-80-3341137

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                                  COLUMNS
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     Dear Editorbeing,

     This article is submitted by Doc Logger(163/110) who was
     still puzzled over His Zorchness' obtuse references in the
     previous Snooz. Mostly, Doc was puzzled over why anyone
     would announce that they read "Atlas Shrugged" in 7 hours.
     Is this an Olympic event now and will World Records be
     benchmarked against how long it takes to read Pynchon's
     "Gravity's Rainbow"? We should be told.

     Roll da flic, Zorch....

     Dear Reverend Visage,

     Bad craziness abounds. One of Satti's fartcatchers, a fellow
     named Bowerman sent a stern message to someone who doesn't
     post in the ZIC echo suggesting that "they might want to
     take a two week holiday." I know that were the message
     addressed to me, I'd have declined the invitation. I'd have
     to borrow a sampling from His Zorchness' paranoia and
     speculate that poor Bob Satti was getting miffed at being
     called a moron in the elflord echo.

     Naturally, it wouldn't occur to Satti that he might want to
     deal with the root of the problem with nodes migrating to
     net163 because they were abused by their NCs. Bob "noted"
     Satti, being a genius, chose the path where he figured that
     he could browbeat net163 into sharing his totalist
     nightmare. Hint for Blonde Bobs Again: Go away, get lost,
     leave net163 alone and go play with your peer, Bob Kohl.
     Peefour isn't now and never was the law in Fidonet. No
     matter how many times Satti snivels that he is bound by
     policy it still doesn't give it any greater jurisprudent
     weight.

     Satti wasted his entire week's worth of 46 words by whining
     that if people stopped insulting him, that he could actually
     answer questions instead of using his lame "noted" macro.
     He's been asked several times a week by nodes in Region10 to
     do something about Kohl's excesses and incompetence by
     hasn't yet mustered enough working neurons to come up with a
     solution. It strikes me as a real simple issue: ask Kohl to
     seek an electoral mandate from the sysops in Region10. While
     that is happening, get Belcke to obtain a sysop level
     mandate from his region as well.

     For my Chautauqua this week I've chosen a quote from
     Francois Mauriac's "Viper's Tangle" which should give me a
     good running start to answer some of the questions which
     have been posed to me in email concerning last week's
     offering in the Snooz:
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     "Is it possible for us...to observe only one side of a
     person who shares our life? Can it be that, out of habit, we
     pick and choose among the things they say and the things
     they do, retaining only that which nurtures our grievances
     and perpetuates our resentment? Have we a fatal tendency to
     simplify other people - to eliminate all those features
     which might be regarded as extenuating, which might render
     more human the caricature of them which our hatred needs for
     its justification?"

     My simple answer is yes. I do indeed selectively choose
     those things that offend me and give them more stature than
     simple context would normally allow. This becomes for me an
     ends justifies the means sort of argument. My premise begins
     where Fidonet began - as a truly noble experiment in
     communication that was unfettered by anything other than
     minimal levels of cooperation with respect to technical
     connectivity. This may seem trite, but Fidonet represented a
     great hope that communication couldn't be shackled by
     bureaucracy or regulatory intrusion, or commercial conquest.
     Fidonet represented in practice the concept that people are
     free to associate with whom they choose, on the terms that
     are mutually agreeable.

     The transformation from that noble dream into the current
     nightmare is tragic. It offends me deeply as it ought to
     offend anyone who has the presence of mind to give credence
     to the worth of their freedom. It is a long, long way from
     that noble dream to where we have cretins asserting that
     nodes must conform to geographic boxes where they can be
     tormented by local despots. It is an equally distant remove
     from the original concept to have a small coterie of
     elflords presuming to "rule" Fidonet from positions where
     owe more to positional heredity than merit.

     I must go Visage, my netmail runneth over, and for a
     pleasant change it isn't entirely composed on insane
     speculations about His Zorchness.

     Regards,
     Doc Logger
     Furlang Island,
     South Pacific



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                                  NOTICES
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                                Future History


     22 May 1998
        Expo '98 World Exposition in Lisbon (Portugal) opens.

      3 Jul 1998
        FidoNet European Convention (see this issue for details).

     14 Sep 1998
        Start of International BBS Week [thru 20 Sep 98].

     22 Sep 1998
        First anniversary of the FidoNews domain of www.fidonews.org.

      1 Dec 1998
        Fifteenth Anniversary of release of Fido version 1 by
        Tom Jennings.

     24 Jul 1999
        XIII Pan American Games [through 8 Aug 99].

     31 Dec 1999
        Hogmanay, Scotland. The New Year that can't be missed.

      1 Jan 2000
        The 20th Century, C.E., is still taking place thru 31 Dec.

      1 Jun 2000
        EXPO 2000 World Exposition in Hannover (Germany) opens.

     15 Sep 2000
        Sydney (Australia) Summer Olympiad opens.

      1 Jan 2001
        This is the actual start of the new millennium, C.E.

     -- If YOU have something which you would like to see in this
        Future History, please send a note to the FidoNews Editor.

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                            FIDONET BY INTERNET
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     This is a list of all FidoNet-related sites reported to the Editor as
     of this appearance.

     NOTE: I am looking for a comprehensive list of Telnet, VMODEM, BinkP,
           Argus and other TCP/IP based nodes operating FidoNet on the
           InterNet, either by Zone or worldwide, to post here as well.
                                        - Ye Editor

     ============

     FidoNet:

      Homepage    http://www.fidonet.org
      FidoNews    http://www.fidonews.org             [HTML]
                  http://209.77.228.66/fidonews.html  [ASCII]
      WWW sources http://www.scms.rgu.ac.uk/students/cs_yr94/lk/fido.html
      FTSC page   http://www.goldware.dk/ftsc
      Echomail    [MIA]
      WebRing     http://ddi.digital.net/~cbaker84/fnetring.html  [TFN]
      General     http://owls.com/~jerrys/fidonet.html

     ============

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       Region 10:  http://www.psnw.com/~net205/region10.html

       Region 11:  http://oeonline.com/~garyg/region11/

       Region 13:  http://www.smalltalkband.com/st01000.htm

       Region 14:

       Region 15:

       Region 16:  http://www.tiac.net/users/satins/region16.htm

       Region 17:

       Region 18:  http://techstop.pdn.net/fido/

       Region 19:  http://www.compconn.net

     ============

     Zone 2:       http://www.z2.fidonet.org

     ZEC2:
     Zone 2 Elist: http://www.fbone.ch/z2_elist/

       Region 20:  http://www.fidonet.pp.se (in Swedish)
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       Region 23:  http://www.fido.dk (in Danish)

       Region 24:  http://www.swb.de/personal/flop/gatebau.html (in German)

       Region 25:
                   http://www.trak-one.co.uk/net254

       Region 26: http://www.nemesis.ie
          REC 26: http://www.nrgsys.com/orb


       Region 27:  http://telematique.org/ft/r27.htm

       Region 29:  http://www.rtfm.be/fidonet/  (in French)

       Region 30:  http://www.fidonet.ch  (in Swiss?)

       Region 33:  http://www.fidoitalia.net (in Italian)

       Region 34:  http://www.pobox.com/cnb/r34.htm  (in Spanish)
           REC34:  http://pobox.com/~chr

       Region 36:  http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/7207/

       Region 38:  http://public.st.carnet.hr/~blagi/bbs/adriam.html

       Region 41:  http://www.fidonet.gr (in Greek and English)

       Region 48:  http://www.fidonet.org.pl

     ============

     Zone 3:       http://www.z3.fidonet.org

     ============

     Zone 4:       (not yet listed)

       Region 90:
         Net 904:  http://members.tripod.com/~net904 (in Spanish)

     ============

     Zone 5:       http://w3.eastcape.co.za/fidonet/index.htm

     ============

     Zone 6:       http://www.z6.fidonet.org

       Region 65:  http://www.cfido.com/fidonet/cfidochina.html (China)

     ============

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