F I D O N E W S --       Volume 15, Number 37        14 September 1998
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     |  The newsletter of the     |   ISSN 1198-4589 Published by:          |
     |    FidoNet community       |   "FidoNews"                            |
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     |             (jm)           |     Newspapers should have no friends.  |
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                        Table of Contents
     1. EDITORIAL  ................................................  1
     2. GUEST EDITORIAL  ..........................................  2
        Fido's Ugly Duckling with the Funny Web Feet  .............  2
     3. ARTICLES  .................................................  3
        FidoNet Technical Standards Committee Year 2000 program  ..  3
     4. NET HUMOR  ................................................  5
        Gone from the Backbone  ...................................  5
     5. NOTICES  ..................................................  7
     6. FIDONET BY INTERNET  ......................................  9
     7. FIDONEWS INFORMATION  ..................................... 12
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                                 EDITORIAL
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     Greetings,

     Some write a lot and some don't.  Is it important that your editor
     writes more or less in the editorial?  What does it matter, if he
     writes anything at all.  What matters, that you write article(s) for
     FidoNews, as that makes the newsletter, not what I utter, good or
     bad. ;-)

     Two notices were received about BBS's being available via Telnet.
     Should a reader be interested in keeping such a list, please let
     me know, as it might be a good idea keeping a list to be included
     in FidoNews.

     Thanks to Colin Turner, for sending us the FTSC2000 details.

     Hope to see more news from the FTSC in future.

     Happy reading,

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                              GUEST EDITORIAL
     =================================================================


     Fido's Ugly Duckling with the Funny Web Feet
     Douglas Myers   1:270/720   doug@mdtnbbs.com

     I got some feedback this week from a strange duck who used to hang
     around the local net.  He didn't leave us like I'd thought... he
     just moved for a job.  But he doesn't walk a straight nodeline
     following Mother Fido like the rest of us ducklings any more - he's
     put on some Web feet.

     He wrote to let me know that sysops aren't threatening to put up
     HTML-based bbses as I'd reported... he's doing it now.  And some of
     the other creatures with Web feet are seeing a BBS for the first
     time, and they're impressed.

     He's not alone, of course.  Though few BBSes are completely
     HTML-based right now, access through telenet has been with us for
     some time.  This community is growing and talking about
     interconnecting through networks a bit kinder to Web feet... and
     there is a growing perception that Mother Fido is getting old and
     won't be able to lead her ducklings off the familiar paths she can
     still see.

     To you ugly ducklings out there, I send my wish that Maw Fido
     consents to have her cataracts removed soon.  Removed so that she
     can see that the pond opens into a big river... removed so that she
     can know that her ugly ducklings have grown to become graceful swans.

     --
     | Fidonet:  Douglas Myers 1:270/720@fidonet.org
     | Internet: doug@mdtnbbs.com
     | Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own.
     | From Mdtn_BBS  @mdtnbbs.com  [ In the Heart of Three Mile Island ]


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                                 ARTICLES
     =================================================================


     FTSC2000 - FidoNet Technical Standards Committee Year 2000 program.
     By Colin Turner 2:443/13 ct@piglets.com


     Have you checked the year 2000 compliance of your hardware and
     software yet?

     Have you told us the results?

     If the answer is no, please read on.

     Recently Group Y of the FTSC (FidoNet Technical Standards Committee)
     released a package of tests to help nodes and points examine the
     compliance of their hardware and software with the change fast
     approaching in the year 2000.

     This has already been announced in FTSC_PUBLIC, and a reasonable
     number of nodes have requested the test package either over FidoNet
     as a file request or from the web site, but not enough.

     This article has two purposes, firstly to inform the wider FidoNet
     community about this, and also to remind you that we need your help.
     FidoNet is (at least in theory) a co-operative venture, and
     participation from all nodes and points is greatly appreciated.

     The changeover date is fast approaching, and it isn't realistic
     (or even possible) for a small group like a subset of the FTSC to
     check all existing software.

     If you are a developer, download the test set, check out your
     software. We want to hear from you if its compliant, we want to hear
     from you even if it's not compliant and you have a release date for a
     compliant version. We even want to hear if it's not compliant and
     will no longer be developed. It's in your interests to use this
     opportunity to tell your users you are on top of the problem, or no
     longer want to deal with your software.

     This responsibility does not fall on the developers alone. If you are
     an "ordinary" node or point and feel that you have a moderate
     technical understanding, then you can also help. Check the software
     that is running on your system, it's in your interests to determine
     if you need to change it or ask for upgrades from the author. Don't
     just test the software, please send us the results, so that other
     nodes and points can benefit from your findings.

     If you are a FidoNet user who does not feel capable of testing your
     software, then there are still ways you can help. Ask your software
     author if they have checked the software for compliance, ask if they
     have submitted the results to us. Tell other people about our project,
     and include the contact details below on your web page if you have
     one.
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     It is the ambition of this project to build a database of software in
     use in FidoNet (and other compatible networks) in all platforms. It's
     even more important on obscure platforms where variety of software is
     sorely limited. We want to be able to post results in FidoNews to
     keep you posted of test findings by ourselves, developers and other
     FidoNet users.

     This group is interested in working with anyone who wants to
     constructively deal with the year 2000 problems in FidoNet Technology
     Networks, if you want to participate, please contact us.

     For information, please file request (from 2:443/13 or 2:443/14):

     FTSC2000

     For the tests sets themselves, in various compression formats, please
     file request:

     FTSC2000ARC             (ARC compression);
     FTSC2000ZIP             (ZIP compression);
     FTSC2000LHA             (LHA compression);
     FTSC2000RAR             (RAR compression).

     You can also obtain them from the Internet at

     http://www.piglets.com/ftsc2000

     Colin Turner, 2:443/13, ct@piglets.com,
     Working Group Y (Year 2000 Issues) co-ordinator,
     FidoNet Technical Standards Committee.

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                                 NET HUMOR
     =================================================================


     Recently, the Overseer of Backbone Operations announced that the
     backbone would cease the practice of automatically deleting
     low-traffic echos.  This action did not meet with wide approval from
     the ZHUBS and RHUBS, and these folks are meeting right now to
     discuss the issue.  While final details of a new plan are yet to be
     announced, there has been considerable compromise.  All are agreed
     that the following echos should not be restored to the backbone for
     any reason:

     Z&Z&Z&Z         This now sleepy echo was once the gathering place
                     the various identies of Zorch, rumored to have been
                     the head of one of the most powerful voting blocks
                     ever seen on Fido.  Dropped by the Elist Robot when
                     the moderator failed to produce evidence that he
                     existed.

     HORNY14         This echo stands as an empty tribute to the fourteen
                     year olds who once dominated the chat echos as the
                     carrier pigeon once dominated the skies of North
                     America.  The plaintive wails of lonely hearts
                     attempting contact with their adolescent peers of
                     the opposite sex are but a memory, commemorated only
                     by their intellectual heirs, the fifty-ish crowd who
                     preserve their traditions.

     P5              Designated the public conference for continued
                     policy improvement, the echo just never caught on.

     ELC             Designated the ElfLord Contact conference, this echo
                     fell into disuse in 1989 at a time when the ElfLords
                     scribed their collective wisdom onto great stone
                     tablets which still stand at the entrance to
                     Fidonet.

     FTSC_DOCS       This echo is for the release of new documents by the
                     Fidonet Technical Standards Committee.  Dropped by
                     the NAB due to no volume.

     BIBLE_THUMPER   This write-only echo accounted for 21.6% of all
                     backbone traffic when it was removed from the elist.
                     The moderator was discovered to have no valid Fido
                     address, and evidence indicates that he was probably
                     a fictitious character who frequented the DISNEY
                     echo.

     Z1C_INPUT       Another popular write-only echo, the idea was that
                     end-nodes could write to the Z1C without being
                     burdened by replies.  Dropped at the moderator's
                     request because it duplicated the function of the
                     Z1C echo.

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     NMAD            The Naked Mother's Against Dyslexia echo was
                     accidentally unlisted in 1997 when the
                     organization's founder discovered that her autopost
                     robot had failed.  She attempted a manual update,
                     thus creating the DAMN conference. Ironically, 2000
                     naked mothers who had tried to areafix the NMAD
                     conference previously found themselves
                     auto-connected within two hours of DAMN's addition
                     to the backbone.

     SUPER-BATCH     Bitching does strange things to the eyes, and the
                     batch file writers found that they had to retreat to
                     the BATPOWER conference when two blurry-eyed
                     super-bitches found their way into their now defunct
                     conference.  The @echo off @ffectionados hope that a
                     BITCHPOWER movement is not in the offing.

     --
     | Fidonet:  Douglas Myers 1:270/720@fidonet.org
     | Internet: doug@mdtnbbs.com
     | Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own.
     | From Mdtn_BBS  @mdtnbbs.com  [ In the Heart of Three Mile Island ]


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                                  NOTICES
     =================================================================

                       Future History

       5 Oct 1998
         29th Anniversary of "Monty Python's Flying Circus".

       10 Sep 1998
          9th Anniversary of Zone 5 operations.

       14 Sep 1998
          Start of International BBS Week [thru 20 Sep 98].

       22 Sep 1998
          First anniversary of the FidoNews domain of www.fidonews.org.

       23 Nov 1998
          35th Anniversary of Doctor Who.

        1 Dec 1998
          Fifteenth Anniversary of release of Fido version 1 by
          Tom Jennings.

       16 Feb 1999
          13th Anniversary of the introduction of EchoMail by Jeff Rush.

       12 May 1999
          12th Anniversary of Fido Operations in Zone 4;
          10th Anniversary of the creation of FidoNet Zone 4.

       24 Jul 1999
          XIII Pan American Games [through 8 Aug 99].

        9 Jun 1999
          Tenth Anniversary of the adoption of FidoNet Policy 4.07.

       10 Sep 1999
          10th anniversary of Zone 5 operations.

       26 Oct 1999
          Thirty years from release Abbey Road album by the Beatles.

       31 Dec 1999
          Hogmanay, Scotland. The New Year that can't be missed.

        1 Jan 2000
          The 20th Century, C.E., is still taking place thru 31 Dec.

        1 Jun 2000
          EXPO 2000 World Exposition in Hannover (Germany) opens.

       15 Sep 2000
          Sydney (Australia) Summer Olympiad opens.

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        1 Jan 2001
          This is the actual start of the new millennium, C.E.

       -- If YOU have something which you would like to see in this
             Future History, please send a note to the FidoNews Editor.

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     Henk,

     Fidonet Region 18, Net 133 hosts two telnetable systems:

     ASN BBS, Fido 1:133/504, telnet to bbs.asnbbs.com
     Boxax Bulletin, Fido 1:133/5007, telnet to bozax.iainc.net

     We also host several web sites, including Net 133's Home Page at
     www.net133.org.

     Lastly, Fido material, including the nodelist, nodediffs, fidonews,
     etc. are available via FTP at ftp.asnbbs.com.

     Larry Cody (Net133 NEC)
     ASN Consulting Services
     (404) 713-4978
     On the Web at www.asnbbs.com!


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     Greetings from Sunny Clearwater, Fla. (USA)

     I was reading an article in fido news where a poster has lost access
     to fidonet.

     My suggestion is to put fidonet bbs's accessable via the internet in
     fido news.

     Mine is accessable either by Telnet or Http, Features the complete
     Zone-1 backbone.na & no conferences, Fido news is avalible as a
     bulleton, or can be downloaded from the file areas. Nodediffs &
     Nodelists are also avalible.
     This bbs is a free service to the fidonet community at
     bbs.docsplace.org

     If anyone needs a telnet terminal program, I recommend Netterm which
     is avalible at http://www.tucows.com

     Ed Koon, Sysop, Doc's Place Bbs Online. 1:3603/140
     ed.koon@bbs.docsplace.org

     ... We toss the Whole Fidonet Backbone!


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     =================================================================
                            FIDONET BY INTERNET
     =================================================================

     This is a list of all FidoNet-related sites reported to the
     FidoNews Editor as of this issue; see the notice at the end.

     FidoNet:

     Homepage    http://www.fidonet.org
     FidoNews    http://www.fidonews.org             [HTML]
                 http://209.77.228.66/fidonews.html  [ASCII]
     WWW sources http://www.scms.rgu.ac.uk/students/cs_yr94/lk/fido.html
     FTSC page   http://www.goldware.dk/ftsc
     Echomail    [pending]
     WebRing     http://ddi.digital.net/~cbaker84/fnetring.html  [TFN]
     General     http://owls.com/~jerrys/fidonet.html
                 http://www.trak-one.co.uk/foti

     ============

     Zone 1:       http://www.z1.fidonet.org

       Region 10:  http://www.psnw.com/~net205/region10.html

       Region 11:  http://oeonline.com/~garyg/region11/

       Region 18:  http://techshop.pdn.net/fido/

       Region 19:  http://www.compconn.net

     ============

     Zone 2:       http://www.z2.fidonet.org

     ZEC2:
     Zone 2 Elist: http://www.fbone.ch/echolist/

       Region 20:  http://www.fidonet.pp.se (in Swedish)

       Region 23:  http://www.fido.dk (in Danish)

       Region 24:  http://www.swb.de/personal/flop/gatebau.html (German)
         Fido-IP:  http://home.nrh.de/~lbehet/fido (English/German)

       Region 25:  http://www.bsnet.co.uk/net2502/net/

        Region 26: http://www.nemesis.ie
           REC 26: http://www.nrgsys.com/orb

       Region 27:  http://telematique.org/ft/r27.htm

       Region 29:  http://www.rtfm.be/fidonet/  (French)

       Region 30:  http://www.fidonet.ch  (Swiss?)

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       Region 33:  http://www.fidoitalia.net (Italian)

       Region 34:  http://www.pobox.com/cnb/r34.htm  (Spanish)
           REC34:  http://pobox.com/~chr

       Region 36:  http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/7207/

       Region 38:  http://public.st.carnet.hr/~blagi/bbs/adriam.html

       Region 41:  http://www.fidonet.gr (Greek/English)

       Region 48:  http://www.fidonet.org.pl

       Region 50:  http://www.fido7.com/  (Russian)
        Net 5010:  http://fido.tu-chel.ac.ru/  (Russian)
        Net 5015:  http://www.fido.nnov.ru/  (Russian)
        Net 5030:  http://kenga.ru/fido/  (Russian & English)
        Net 5073:  http://people.weekend.ru/soa/  (Russian)

     ============

     Zone 3:       http://www.z3.fidonet.org

     ============

     Zone 4:       http://www.altern.org/zone4

       Region 90:  http://visitweb.com/fidonet
         Net 903:  http://www.playagrande.com/refugio
         Net 904:  http://members.tripod.com/~net904 (Spanish)

     ============

     Zone 5:       http://www.eastcape.co.za/fidonet/index.htm

     ============

     Zone 6:       http://www.z6.fidonet.org

       Region 65:  http://www.cfido.com/fidonet/cfidochina.html (Chinese)

     ============

     Pages listed above are as submitted to the FidoNews Editor,
     and generally reflect Zone and Regional Web Page sites.  If
     no Regional site is submitted, the first Network page from
     that Region is used in its place.  Generally, Regional pages
     should list access points to all Networks within the Region.

     TCP/IP accessible node access information should be submitted
     to the FidoNews Editor for inclusion in their Region or Zone.

                      -----------oOo-------------

                       Fidonet Via Internet Hubs

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     Node#      | Operator          | Facilities (*) | Speed | Basic Rate
     -----------+-------------------+----------------+-------+-----------
     1:12/12    | Ken Wilson        | FTP            | T1    | $24mo.
     1:13/25    | Jim Balcom        | FTP            | 56k   | $20mo.
     1:124/7008 | Ben Hamilton      |FTP,VMoT,F2I,UUE| 64k   | $10/$20mo.
     1:140/12   | Bob Seaborn       | FTP            | T1    | $5/$20
     1:270/101  | George Peace      | FTP            | T1    | $30mo.
     1:271/140  | Tom Barstow       | F2I            | ???   | $2mo.
     1:275/1    | Joshua Ecklund    | UUE,F2I        | 28.8  | $10/yr.
     1:280/169  | Brian Greenstreet | FTP            | 33.6  | $2mo.
     1:2401/305 | Peter Rocca       | FTP,UUE        | T1    | unkn
     1:2424/10  | Alec Grynspan     | FTP,VMoT       | T1    | $1mo.
     1:2424/3121| Earl Clark        | UUE            | 33.6  | n/c
     1:2604/104 | Jim Mclaughlin    | FTP,VMoT,UUE   | 33.6  | $1mo.
     1:2624/306 | D. Calafrancesco  | VFOS           | 33.6  | $15yr.
     1:345/0    | Todd Cochrane     | FTP            | T1    | n/c
     1:346/250  | Aran Spence       | FTP,UUE        | T1    | $10mo.
     1:342/1022 | Steve Steffler    | UUE,F2I        | 33.6  | n/c
     1:3651/9   | Jerry Gause       | FTP,VMoT       | 33.6  | $3/$6
     1:396/1    | John Souvestre    | FTP,VMoT       | T1    | $15mo.
     2:2411/413 | Dennis Dittrich   | UUE            | 64k   | n/c
     2:33/505   | Mario Mure        | VMoT,UUE       | 64k   | n/c
     2:335/610  | Gino Lucrezi      | UUE            | 33.6  | n/c
     2:469/84   | Max Masyutin      | VMoT           | 256k  | n/c
     2:2474/275 | Christian Emig    | UUE            | 64k   | unkn
     2:2490/5170| Lenny Murphy      | F2I            | ???   | n/c
     5:7104/2   | Henk Wolsink      | FTP            | 28.8  | n/c
     --
      + VMoT = Virtual Mailer over Telnet (various)
      + F2I  = Fido2Int (W95)
      + UUE  = uuencode<->email packet transfers

     compiled by C. Ingersoll, 1:2623/71, (609)814-1978, fbn@dandy.net
     Posted on the 1st of every month in FN_SYSOP, R13SYSOP and Fidonews.
     -
     ___
      ! Origin: * Fly By Night * (609)814-1978 *(1:2623/71)


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     =================================================================
                           FIDONEWS INFORMATION
     =================================================================


      ------- FIDONEWS MASTHEAD AND CONTACT INFORMATION -------

       Editor: Henk Wolsink

       Editors Emeritii: Tom Jennings, Thom Henderson, Dale Lovell,
                         Vince Perriello, Tim Pozar, Sylvia Maxwell,
                         Donald Tees, Christopher Baker, Zorch Frezberg

       "FidoNews Editor"
           FidoNet  5:5/23
           BBS  +27-41-515-913,  2400/9600/V.34/V.90

        more addresses:
           Henk Wolsink -- 5:7104/2,    hwolsink@catpe.alt.za

        (Postal Service mailing address)
           FidoNews Editor
           P.O. Box 12325
           Port Elizabeth,
           6006
           South Africa

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     FidoNews is published weekly by and for the members of the FIDONET
     INTERNATIONAL AMATEUR ELECTRONIC MAIL system.  It is a compilation
     of individual articles contributed by their authors or their
     authorized agents.  The contribution of articles to this compilation
     does not diminish the rights of the authors.  OPINIONS EXPRESSED in
     these articles ARE THOSE OF THE AUTHORS and not necessarily those of
     FidoNews and/or the Editor.

     Authors retain copyright on individual works; otherwise FidoNews is
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     and/or distribution permitted for noncommercial purposes only.  For
     use in other circumstances, please contact the original authors, or
     the Editor.

                             =*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=

     OBTAINING COPIES: The most recent issue of FidoNews in electronic
     form may be obtained from the FidoNews Editor via manual download or
     file-request, or from various sites in the FidoNet and Internet.
     PRINTED COPIES may be obtained by sending SASE to the above postal
     address.  File-request FIDONEWS for the current Issue.  File-request
     FNEWS for the current month in one archive.  Or file-request specific
     back Issue filenames in distribution format [FNEWSFnn.ZIP] for a
     particular Issue.  Monthly Volumes are available as FNWSmmmy.ZIP
     where mmm = three letter month [JAN - DEC] and y = last digit of the
     current year [8], i.e., FNWSJAN8.ZIP for all the Issues from Jan 98.

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     Annual volumes are available as FNEWSn.ZIP where n = the Volume number
     1 - 15 for 1984 - 1998, respectively. Annual Volume archives range in
     size from 48K to 1.4M.


        INTERNET USERS: FidoNews is available via:

                        http://www.fidonews.org
                        http://www.fidonet.org/fidonews.htm
                        ftp://ftp.fidonet.org/pub/fidonet/fidonews/
                        ftp://ftp.aminet.org/pub/aminet/comm/fido/
                        ftp://ftp.irvbbs.com/fidonews/
                        ftp://ftp.nwstar.com/Fidonet/Fidonews

        And in non-English formats via:

                        http://www.hvc.ee/pats/fidonews (Estonian)
                        http://www.fidonet.pp.se/sfnews (Swedish)

                                   *=*=*

     You may obtain an email subscription to FidoNews by sending email to:

                        jbarchuk@worldnet.att.net

     with a Subject line of: subscribe fnews-edist

     and no message in the message body. To remove your name from the
     email distribution use a Subject line of: unsubscribe fnews-edist
     with no message to the same address above.

                                      *

     You may retrieve current and previous Issues of FidoNews via FTPMail
     by sending email to:

                        ftpmail@fidonews.org

     with a Subject line of: help

     and FTPMail will immediately send a reply containing details and
     instructions. When you actually make a file request, FTPMail will
     respond in three stages. You find a link for this process on
     www.fidonews.org.

                                    *=*=*

     You can read the current FidoNews Issue in HTML format at:

                        http://www.fidonews.org

     STAR SOURCE for ALL Past Issues via FTP and file-request -
     Available for FReq from 1:396/1 or by anonymous FTP from:

                        ftp://ftp.sstar.com/fidonet/fnews/

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     Each yearly archive also contains a listing of the Table-of-Contents
     for that year's issues.  The total set is currently about 13 Megs.

                                  =*=*=*=

     The current week's FidoNews and the FidoNews public-key are now also
     available almost immediately after publication on the FidoNews Editor
     homepage on the World Wide Web at:

                        http://209.77.228.66/fidonews.html

     There are also links there to jim barchuk's HTML FidoNews source and
     to John Souvestre's FTP site for the archives.  There is also an
     email link for sending in an article as message text.  Drop on over.

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     SUBMISSIONS: You are encouraged to submit articles for publication in
     FidoNews. Article submission requirements are contained in the file
     ARTSPEC.DOC, available from the FidoNews Editor, or file-requestable
     from 5:5/23 [5:7104/2] as file "ARTSPEC.DOC".  ALL Zone Coordinators
     also have copies of ARTSPEC.DOC. Please read it.

     "Fido", "FidoNet" and the dog-with-diskette are U.S. registered
     trademarks of Tom Jennings, P.O. Box 410923, San Francisco, CA 94141,
     and are used with permission.

                  "Disagreement is actually necessary,
                   or we'd all have to get in fights
                   or something to amuse ourselves
                   and create the requisite chaos."
                                     -Tom Jennings

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