F I D O N E W S --       Volume 15, Number 38        21 September 1998
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                        Table of Contents
     1. EDITORIAL  ................................................  1
     2. GUEST EDITORIAL  ..........................................  2
        Conflict of Interest - both yours and mine  ...............  2
     3. LETTERS TO THE EDITOR  ....................................  4
     4. ARTICLES  .................................................  5
        Zone 1 Echo Coordinator Election - ever again?  ...........  5
     5. WANTED  ...................................................  7
        Point system details wanted  ..............................  7
     6. NOTICES  ..................................................  8
     7. FIDONET BY INTERNET  ...................................... 10
     8. FIDONEWS INFORMATION  ..................................... 14
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                                 EDITORIAL
     =================================================================

     Greetings,

     Is it not valid, that whatever happens in FidoNet world, some form
     of announcement is made in Fidonews?  Is FidoNews not for _ALL_ the
     users and 'whoever'?  The 'whoever' being whoever reads FidoNews!
     If so, than lets read what is happening in your Zone, no matter what.

     I have an interesting question, to which I have my own views, but
     hopefully the IC and/or ZCC or for that matter, anyone interested,
     can give a answer or two.  Ofcourse, this may have been debated in
     the past, without me being aware of it. If such, my excuse for asking.

     Q. Is it not true, that when a message appears in _any_ one of the
     Echo's, it is 'public domain'?  Please keep in mind, that when I
     refer to 'public domain' (PD), it is in reference to your editor to
     take such message from any echo, and publish it here in FidoNews.

     Lets have your views on the above, as it is an interesting aspect.

     Happy reading.

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     =================================================================
                              GUEST EDITORIAL
     =================================================================


                             Conflict of Interest
                                Douglas Myers

     It's been over 30 years since I took a journalism course, and it was
     at Penn State, a university more known for its linebackers than it's
     journalists.  An ethical standard then, and still a good idea today,
     was for a writer to disclose any personal interest he may have in an
     article.  I have submitted such an article for publication in this
     week's edition of Fidonews - a news piece concerning the Zone 1 Echo
     Coordinator election.  You should know that I intend to run as a
     candidate if the office is to be determined by a sysop-level
     election.  I don't plan to campaign at the moment figuring such
     activity is better reserved until the election is actually set, but
     I do plan to inform.

     That's my potential conflict of interest.  Now let's discuss your
     conflict if you're a zone 1 sysop.

     There may not be another election for this position where the zone 1
     sysops may vote directly.  The reason, if I may paraphrase the
     analysis of one particularly eloquent writer in the ZEC echo, is
     that the last one sucked.  I've briefly discussed the last election
     in the article itself, but here I'd like to focus on one of the more
     significant objections: In the last ZEC election, only about 6% of
     the sysops in zone 1 cast a ballot. Opponents of an election for
     this office say it's because sysops are too apathetic to vote.
     Proponents claim that the "grunt" sysops just didn't get the word
     about the election.

     The decision on how the ZEC position is to be filled rests in the
     hands of the Regional Echo Coordinator's Council.  It's being
     decided right now, and there's still time for you, as a sysop, to
     have a voice in this decision.  If you have an opinion right now,
     you need only to get it to your Regional Echo Coordinator (REC).  If
     you don't know who he (or she) is, your own net's NEC or NC would be
     able to tell you.  If you want to hear what others are saying about
     this election, or if you want to express yourself in an interactive
     setting, join the ZEC conference.  ZEC (and all the other confereces
     mentioned in the article) are publicly available echos carried by
     the BACKBONE and FIDOSPINE and can be had wherever you get your
     echomail.

     In my opinion, the upcoming decision by the RECC goes beyond merely
     filling the ZEC position right now.  The ZEC is the only zone 1
     office to ever be decided by a vote in which all sysops were
     elegible to cast a ballot.  It was an experiment, and if the RECC
     decides that the experiment was a failure, then it's unlikely that
     "grunt" sysops will ever cast a ballot for a zone 1 office again.

     So now we come to your own conflict of interest:  if you've read
     this far, then you know what's going on.  You know what's at stake,
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     and you know what you can do about it.  You can choose to act on it
     now, or simply let others make the decision for you.

     --
     | Fidonet:  Douglas Myers 1:270/720@fidonet.org
     | Internet: doug@mdtnbbs.com
     | Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own.
     | From Mdtn_BBS  @mdtnbbs.com  [ In the Heart of Three Mile Island ]


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     =================================================================
                           LETTERS TO THE EDITOR
     =================================================================

     Hello Henk, congratulations upon being appointed Fidonews editor.

     Please feel free to publish this.

     I've started an e-mail list for anyone interested in discussing
     Fidonet.  If you'd like to know more, or would like to subscribe,
     feel free to check out the link below.

     http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/fidonet-discussion

     Thanks,
     Ed Lee

     [Thanks Ed for your wishes.  Henk.]


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     =================================================================
                                 ARTICLES
     =================================================================


                     The Zone 1 Echo Coordinator Election
                         Will there ever be another?
                         Douglas Myers    1:270/720

     The Zone 1 Echo Coordinator (abbreviated here as Z1EC or ZEC) is an
     obscure position, not often doing anything noticable to the average
     sysop.  If you've never heard of the office, don't be embarrassed -
     the chances are that you're in good company.  In fact, Zone 1 has
     spent much of the recent years without anyone doing this job at all.

     Why, then, is this office the most hotly contested in Fidonet?  Why
     does this position dominate the interest of Fido's political
     activists?  Why is this office so prominant (or notorious, of late)?

     The ZEC is basically an assistant to the Zone Coordinator, much the
     same as a Regional Echo Coordinator (REC) assists a Regional
     Coordinator (RC) and a Net Echo Coordinator (NEC) assists a Net
     Coordinator (NC).  As the title implies, the specific duties of the
     ZEC are related to Fido's echomail.  The ZEC is charged with acting
     as a Chairperson for the Regional Echo Coordinator's Council (RECC)
     and acting as a liason of sorts between the distribution services
     (Backbone, Fidospine, and others), the echo moderators, and the
     Echolist Keeper.  The job description goes into more detail than
     I've summarized above, but the summary should serve to illustrate
     that the duties themselves would not inspire the passionate and
     long-lasting debate current with the Fido Politicos.

     What has fanned the coals of this interest into a raging fire is Bob
     Satti's decision, as Zone Coordinator, to transform the position of
     ZEC from an appointed position to an elected position.  The last
     ZEC, Bob Kohl, became the first functionary in Fidonet to be elected
     in a zone-wide sysop-level election.

     But this may be the last time sysops at large in Zone 1 may ever
     have a direct vote in any election.  Both the proponents and
     opponents of such elections agree that the last one was
     disappointing:

     1.  Only about 6% of Fido sysops cast a ballot in the election.
         This has been blamed on multiple causes, ranging from sysop
         apathy to insufficient publicity for the election.

     2.  The election itself was vocal and time-consuming, with confusion
         over the preferential voting system used... and the results were
         considered tainted by some over allegations of multiple votes by
         at least one individual.

     3.  The elected candidate did not complete his term.  Instead, he
         removed from office by the RECC acting in conjunction with the
         ZC.  Charges are too numerous to mention here, but left some
         with a distrust of further direct elections.
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     As it currently stands, the future of direct sysop voting is being
     considered by the RECC and the ZC.  An interim ZEC, Gary Gilmore,
     was previously appointed to conduct an election in the event that
     the ZEC could not complete his term.  He has assumed the interim
     position, but was instructed to hold off on the election until the
     RECC and ZC decide on the most appropriate way to fill the office.
     Zone 1 awaits this decision.

     What can you, as a sysop, do?  If you have strong feelings on how
     the next ZEC should be selected, tell your REC.  If you want more
     information or just want to watch events unfold, moniter the ZEC and
     the Z1C echos.  You may also want to moniter the Z1_ELECTION echo.
     Some discussion is going on there now and it's a likely choice for
     voting if there is to be another sysop-level election.  I get a
     surprising amount of "unapproved" information from what may not be
     an obvious place - the SUPER-BITCH echo.  And Z1_POLITICAL is
     another place to keep an eye on - It's not too active now, but a
     likely site for those "unmoderated" discussion if things heat.

     Finally, you could mention to your friends that there's a bit of
     background material right here in FIDONEWS.  A copy should be
     available from anyone's NC, and I'll attempt to summarize upcoming
     news in future issues.

     --
     | Fidonet:  Douglas Myers 1:270/720@fidonet.org
     | Internet: doug@mdtnbbs.com
     | Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own.
     | From Mdtn_BBS  @mdtnbbs.com  [ In the Heart of Three Mile Island ]


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     =================================================================
                                  WANTED
     =================================================================


     I am looking to learn more about operating a "point system" on
     Fidonet.

     There was a document out there making the rounds called "point.doc".
     Does anyone have a copy of this that they can forward to me?

     (In english please, I recently DID get  a copy of it in another
     language.  :-)  )

     If you have a copy of "point.doc" in english, could you send it
     along to me.

     If you run a 'point system' on fidonet, I would love to hear from
     you.

     Thanks for your help!

     Dave

     DAVID_BOUCHER@Prodigy.com


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     =================================================================
                                  NOTICES
     =================================================================

                       Future History

       5 Oct 1998
         29th Anniversary of "Monty Python's Flying Circus".

       10 Sep 1998
          9th Anniversary of Zone 5 operations.

       14 Sep 1998
          Start of International BBS Week [thru 20 Sep 98].

       22 Sep 1998
          First anniversary of the FidoNews domain of www.fidonews.org.

       23 Nov 1998
          35th Anniversary of Doctor Who.

        1 Dec 1998
          Fifteenth Anniversary of release of Fido version 1 by
          Tom Jennings.

       16 Feb 1999
          13th Anniversary of the introduction of EchoMail by Jeff Rush.

       12 May 1999
          12th Anniversary of Fido Operations in Zone 4;
          10th Anniversary of the creation of FidoNet Zone 4.

       24 Jul 1999
          XIII Pan American Games [through 8 Aug 99].

        9 Jun 1999
          Tenth Anniversary of the adoption of FidoNet Policy 4.07.

       10 Sep 1999
          10th anniversary of Zone 5 operations.

       26 Oct 1999
          Thirty years from release Abbey Road album by the Beatles.

       31 Dec 1999
          Hogmanay, Scotland. The New Year that can't be missed.

        1 Jan 2000
          The 20th Century, C.E., is still taking place thru 31 Dec.

        1 Jun 2000
          EXPO 2000 World Exposition in Hannover (Germany) opens.

       15 Sep 2000
          Sydney (Australia) Summer Olympiad opens.

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        1 Jan 2001
          This is the actual start of the new millennium, C.E.

       -- If YOU have something which you would like to see in this
             Future History, please send a note to the FidoNews Editor.

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     =================================================================
                            FIDONET BY INTERNET
     =================================================================

     This is a list of all FidoNet-related sites reported to the
     FidoNews Editor as of this issue; see the notice at the end.

     FidoNet:

     Homepage    http://www.fidonet.org
     FidoNews    http://www.fidonews.org             [HTML]
                 http://209.77.228.66/fidonews.html  [ASCII]
     WWW sources http://www.scms.rgu.ac.uk/students/cs_yr94/lk/fido.html
     FTSC page   http://www.goldware.dk/ftsc
     Echomail    [pending]
     WebRing     http://ddi.digital.net/~cbaker84/fnetring.html  [TFN]
     General     http://owls.com/~jerrys/fidonet.html
                 http://www.trak-one.co.uk/foti

     ============

     Zone 1:       http://www.z1.fidonet.org

       Region 10:  http://www.psnw.com/~net205/region10.html

       Region 11:  http://oeonline.com/~garyg/region11/

       Region 18:  http://techshop.pdn.net/fido/

       Region 19:  http://www.compconn.net

     ============

     Zone 2:       http://www.z2.fidonet.org

     ZEC2:
     Zone 2 Elist: http://www.fbone.ch/echolist/

       Region 20:  http://www.fidonet.pp.se (in Swedish)

       Region 23:  http://www.fido.dk (in Danish)

       Region 24:  http://www.swb.de/personal/flop/gatebau.html (German)
         Fido-IP:  http://home.nrh.de/~lbehet/fido (English/German)

       Region 25:  http://www.bsnet.co.uk/net2502/net/

        Region 26: http://www.nemesis.ie
           REC 26: http://www.nrgsys.com/orb

       Region 27:  http://telematique.org/ft/r27.htm

       Region 29:  http://www.rtfm.be/fidonet/  (French)

       Region 30:  http://www.fidonet.ch  (Swiss?)

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       Region 33:  http://www.fidoitalia.net (Italian)

       Region 34:  http://www.pobox.com/cnb/r34.htm  (Spanish)
           REC34:  http://pobox.com/~chr

       Region 36:  http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/7207/

       Region 38:  http://public.st.carnet.hr/~blagi/bbs/adriam.html

       Region 41:  http://www.fidonet.gr (Greek/English)

       Region 48:  http://www.fidonet.org.pl

       Region 50:  http://www.fido7.com/  (Russian)
        Net 5010:  http://fido.tu-chel.ac.ru/  (Russian)
        Net 5015:  http://www.fido.nnov.ru/  (Russian)
        Net 5030:  http://kenga.ru/fido/  (Russian & English)
        Net 5073:  http://people.weekend.ru/soa/  (Russian)

     ============

     Zone 3:       http://www.z3.fidonet.org

     ============

     Zone 4:       http://www.altern.org/zone4

       Region 90:  http://visitweb.com/fidonet
         Net 903:  http://www.playagrande.com/refugio
         Net 904:  http://members.tripod.com/~net904 (Spanish)

     ============

     Zone 5:       http://www.eastcape.co.za/fidonet/index.htm

     ============

     Zone 6:       http://www.z6.fidonet.org

       Region 65:  http://www.cfido.com/fidonet/cfidochina.html (Chinese)

     ============

     Pages listed above are as submitted to the FidoNews Editor,
     and generally reflect Zone and Regional Web Page sites.  If
     no Regional site is submitted, the first Network page from
     that Region is used in its place.  Generally, Regional pages
     should list access points to all Networks within the Region.

     TCP/IP accessible node access information should be submitted
     to the FidoNews Editor for inclusion in their Region or Zone.

                      -----------oOo-------------

                       Fidonet Via Internet Hubs

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     Node#      | Operator          | Facilities (*) | Speed | Basic Rate
     -----------+-------------------+----------------+-------+-----------
     1:12/12    | Ken Wilson        | FTP            | T1    | $24mo.
     1:13/25    | Jim Balcom        | FTP            | 56k   | $20mo.
     1:124/7008 | Ben Hamilton      |FTP,VMoT,F2I,UUE| 64k   | $10/$20mo.
     1:140/12   | Bob Seaborn       | FTP            | T1    | $5/$20
     1:270/101  | George Peace      | FTP            | T1    | $30mo.
     1:271/140  | Tom Barstow       | F2I            | ???   | $2mo.
     1:275/1    | Joshua Ecklund    | UUE,F2I        | 28.8  | $10/yr.
     1:280/169  | Brian Greenstreet | FTP            | 33.6  | $2mo.
     1:2401/305 | Peter Rocca       | FTP,UUE        | T1    | unkn
     1:2424/10  | Alec Grynspan     | FTP,VMoT       | T1    | $1mo.
     1:2424/3121| Earl Clark        | UUE            | 33.6  | n/c
     1:2604/104 | Jim Mclaughlin    | FTP,VMoT,UUE   | 33.6  | $1mo.
     1:2624/306 | D. Calafrancesco  | VFOS           | 33.6  | $15yr.
     1:345/0    | Todd Cochrane     | FTP            | T1    | n/c
     1:346/250  | Aran Spence       | FTP,UUE        | T1    | $10mo.
     1:342/1022 | Steve Steffler    | UUE,F2I        | 33.6  | n/c
     1:3651/9   | Jerry Gause       | FTP,VMoT       | 33.6  | $3/$6
     1:396/1    | John Souvestre    | FTP,VMoT       | T1    | $15mo.
     2:2411/413 | Dennis Dittrich   | UUE            | 64k   | n/c
     2:33/505   | Mario Mure        | VMoT,UUE       | 64k   | n/c
     2:335/610  | Gino Lucrezi      | UUE            | 33.6  | n/c
     2:469/84   | Max Masyutin      | VMoT           | 256k  | n/c
     2:2474/275 | Christian Emig    | UUE            | 64k   | unkn
     2:2490/5170| Lenny Murphy      | F2I            | ???   | n/c
     5:7104/2   | Henk Wolsink      | FTP            | 28.8  | n/c
     --
      + VMoT = Virtual Mailer over Telnet (various)
      + F2I  = Fido2Int (W95)
      + UUE  = uuencode<->email packet transfers

     compiled by C. Ingersoll, 1:2623/71, (609)814-1978, fbn@dandy.net
     Posted on the 1st of every month in FN_SYSOP, R13SYSOP and Fidonews.
     -
     ___
      ! Origin: * Fly By Night * (609)814-1978 *(1:2623/71)

     ******************************************************************
     *  Region 17 FidoNet BBS available via telnet from the Internet  *
     *                            15-Sep-98                           *
     ******************************************************************

     All systems verified Sept '98. If you know of a Region 17 FidoNet
     telnet(able) BBS that is not on this list, please let me know.

     Lisa Gronke
     FidoNet: 1:105/9
     Internet: lisa@psg.com

     ----------------------------------------------------------------------
     Dimension 7 BBS (1:152/7, 1:152/8)
     Location: Eugene_OR (USA)
     telnet: dimstar.net (208.129.202.174)
     dialup: 1-541-688-5853
     Runs: BBBS/LiI v3.42
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     Sysop: Russ Johnson (russj@uswest.net)
     Notes: FidoNet backbone echos; AnimeNet conferences.

     The Computer Hotline (1:357/1)
     Location: Albany_OR (USA)
     telnet: klock.com (198.68.19.64)
     dialup: 1-541-928-9535
     Runs: Wildcat for Win95/NT v5.00.439
     Sysop: Khile Klock (klockk@klock.com)
     Notes: Selected Fidonet & FamilyNet echos; k12.* newsgroups.
            Standard access after using Telefier ("CBV" for telnet
            callers).

     Mach2 BBS Systems (1:342/61)
     Location: Edmonton_AB (Canada)
     telnet:   mach2.v-wave.com (24.108.9.29)
     dialup:   1-403-489-4250
     Runs:     Maximus/2 v3.01 behind BT 2.60XE (VMODEM)
     Sysop:    Richard Dodsworth (mach2@v-wave.com)
     Notes:    Mach2 carries the complete Fidonet backbone & filebone
               as well as Os2Net, IBMNet, CAOS2, AnimeNet & JustaNet
               echos and the comp.os.* newsgroups. An OS/2 support BBS.

     Pacifier Online Data Service (1:105/103)
     Location: Vancouver_WA (USA)
     telnet: pacnt2.pacifier.com (199.2.117.107)
     dialup: 1-360-699-7112
     Runs: Wildcat for Win95/NT v5.00.439
     Sysop: Doug Palin (doug@pacifier.com)
     Co-Sysop: Shawn Booze (tech7@pacifier.com)
     Notes: 670+ FidoNet backbone echos, 10+ local (Net 1:105) echos,
            25+ local (van.*, pdx.*) usenet newsgroups.

     Terra-Firma-BBS (1:153/765)
     Location: Vancouver_BC (Canada)
     telnet: tfbbs.tvinet.com (205.210.70.88)
     dialup: 1-604-434-3665
     Runs: DLG Pro BB/OS v1.0 on Amiga
     Sysop: Dana Huggard (dana@tfbbs.tvinet.com)
     Notes: BBS serves the Amiga community. AmigaNet node and RC
            (40:800/0). See article in FIDO1527.NWS, p 20.

     WCS Online (1:105/278)
     Location: Oregon_City_OR (USA)
     telnet: bbs.wcssoft.com (204.245.231.172)
     dialup: 1-503-631-4545; 631-4546; 631-8439
     Runs: Wildcat for Win95/NT v5.00.443
     Sysop: Rob Williams (rob@wcssoft.com, rwilliam@pacifier.com)
     Notes: 200 Intelec conferences, 100 FidoNet backbone echos;
            20 Northwest Net conferences, a few usenet newsgroups.

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     =================================================================
                           FIDONEWS INFORMATION
     =================================================================


      ------- FIDONEWS MASTHEAD AND CONTACT INFORMATION -------

       Editor: Henk Wolsink

       Editors Emeritii: Tom Jennings, Thom Henderson, Dale Lovell,
                         Vince Perriello, Tim Pozar, Sylvia Maxwell,
                         Donald Tees, Christopher Baker, Zorch Frezberg

       "FidoNews Editor"
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           BBS  +27-41-515-913,  2400/9600/V.34/V.90

        more addresses:
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        (Postal Service mailing address)
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