F I D O N E W S Volume 16, Number 37 13 September 1999 +----------------------------+---------------------------------------+ | The newsletter of the | ISSN 1198-4589 Published by: | | FidoNet community | "FidoNews" | | _ | +27-41-581-5913 [5:5/23] | | / \ | | | /|oo \ | | | (_| /_) | Editor: | | _`@/_ \ _ | | | | | \ \\ | Henk Wolsink 5:7104/2 | | | (*) | \ )) | | | |__U__| / \// | | | _//|| _\ / | | | (_/(_|(____/ | Newspapers should have no friends. | | (jm) | -- JOSEPH PULITZER | +----------------------------+---------------------------------------+ | Submission address: FidoNews Editor 5:5/23 | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | MORE addresses: | | submissions=> editor@fidonews.org | | hwolsink@catpe.alt.za | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | For information, copyrights, article submissions, | | obtaining copies of FidoNews or the internet gateway FAQ | | please refer to the end of this file. | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ Table of Contents 1. EDITORIAL ................................................ 1 2. GUEST EDITORIAL .......................................... 2 Stamps for your Email .................................... 2 3. ARTICLES ................................................. 4 NAB & WWB Echo Diff ...................................... 4 NAB & Z1B Echo Diff ...................................... 5 North American Backbone Echo Changes [Jul-Aug] ........... 7 Z1 Backbone Echo Changes [Jul-Aug] ....................... 9 4. NOTICES .................................................. 12 Future History ........................................... 12 5. FIDONET BY INTERNET ...................................... 13 6. FIDONEWS INFORMATION ..................................... 16 FIDONEWS 16-37 Page 1 13 Sep 1999 ================================================================= EDITORIAL ================================================================= Greetings, This is my last day as your editor of FidoNews. As from next week's issue, Douglas Myers will be your new editor. I would like to thank all of you who so kindly supported me. Ofcourse, there's no thanks for those who always bigger and want nothing more than to be boss of our hobby FidoNet. This is a great pitty, that SysOp's cannot stand together to make FidoNet a better network to be in. Keep well and I'll be around to watch from the sideline. :-) Happy reading, ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 16-37 Page 2 13 Sep 1999 ================================================================= GUEST EDITORIAL ================================================================= Stamps for your Email Douglas Myers 1:270/720 DougM@paonline.com If you hold your ear very close to your POP3 server, you can hear the roar of an ocean of injustice. Is the government reading your email? Will the telephone company be able to charge you long distance surcharges for your data connections? Will your ISP be required to limit your selections on the web? This week's email sounded a clarion call alerting me the the latest attempt to trample my personal freedoms: ----- excerpt from email ----- Under proposed legislation the U.S. Postal Service will be attempting to bilk email users out of "alternate postage fees". Bill 602P will permit the Federal Govt. to charge a 5 cent surcharge on every email delivered, by billing Internet Service Providers at source. The consumer would then be billed in turn by the ISP. .. The U.S. Postal Service is claiming that lost revenue due to the proliferation of email is costing nearly $230,000,000 in revenue per year. .. Since the average citizen received about 10 pieces of email per day in 1998, the cost to the typical individual would be an additional 50 cents per day, or over $180 dollars per year, above and beyond their regular Internet costs. -------- end excerpt --------- To save space, I've not included the usual rhetoric about the efficiency of the post office and the federal government in general, nor the dire warnings about giving the government a foothold to strip us of a free internet. It is presumed that the reader is already familiar with the concept. The letter did go on to say that all major newspapers are ignoring the story, so I thought I'd address it in Fidonews :) To begin with, I'm not sure that there is a Bill 602P - sometimes these letters don't restrict themselves to the facts. But if there is a Bill 602P, it won't recover the USPS' lost revenues - if the post office is losing $0.33 per letter and only recovering $0.05 per letter, then it's only going to recover about $35 million of its lost $230 million. This is a figure almost beneath Uncle Sam's notice... unless he takes the following two steps to bolster revenue FIDONEWS 16-37 Page 3 13 Sep 1999 significantly: 1. Surcharge email received rather than email sent. This would have the double benefit encouraging spammers to work for free as agents of the United States Government as well as drawing significant revenue from folks with an email account who just aren't creative enough to write much. 2. Consider newsgroups to be email. The ALT groups alone could wipe out the national debt! Of course, if the concept were extended to include echomail, then the Zone 1 Backbone would be scrambling to recover all those echoes they've dropped, as low volume echoes would suddenly be in vogue. In calculating lost revenues, the Post Office needs to look beyond email to other forms of communication. For example, Postal Inspectors could walk into the Churches and Synagogues and Temples of our nation and surcharge all those prayers to God. None of them bear a postage stamp, to the best of my knowledge. Better yet, they could surcharge prayers at home - three meals per day and bedtime prayers. Compliance with this latter is expected to be high... after all, would YOU be willing to tell the government that you don't say your prayers at beddy-bye? And the Postal Inspectors could march into the singles bars throughout the land on the alert for body language. After all, it all goes unstamped except for possibly an occasional woman who's been hit upon one too many times. Of course, Postal Inspectors are a dry lot and might miss some of the body language. Perhaps it's time for a new concept here: outcome-based surcharing. For example, a man or woman who draws a smile could be charged for one letter. A whistle would be worth three letters. If one actually scores, he or she could appeal for bulk rate. Pay attention to the roar of the ocean in your mailbox... you just never know what's going to wash ashore... ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 16-37 Page 4 13 Sep 1999 ================================================================= ARTICLES ================================================================= NAB & WWB Echo Diff by Lisa Gronke, 1:105/9 lisa@psg.com Comparing the echo lists of the NAB (North American Backbone) and the WWB (World Wide Backbone) distribution systems: diff backbone.na (05-Sep-99) backbone.ww (05-Sep-99) [edited] Echos on the NAB but not on the WWB ----------------------------------- ADLIB Computer Soundcard Discussion Area AREXX Echo for discussion and assistance on Arexx. MOTOR_SPORTS_RESULTS Various Motor Sports Results MTG_TRADE Magic: The Gathering, Trading Echo NT4_UK Discussion of Microsoft's NT4 Workstation/Server POWER_BAS PowerBASIC Programmers Conference TABLATURE Tablature Z1C Zone 1 Coordinator Contact Conference Echos on the WWB but not on the NAB ----------------------------------- ASTROWAR_UK BBBS.BZ Discussion of BBBS's script language, BZ. BBBS.CHAT General chat about BBBS. BBBS.SYSOP BBBS SysOp Conference BBBS.UTIL Announcements and discussion of BBBS-related utilities. BUGTRAQ Unix security CELLULAR_UK Cellular Phones discussions ECONOMICS_UK Economics Talk EUROCON EuroCon 1999 (European SysOp Convention) FIDOSOFT.HUSKY The Fidosoft Husky Project for Linux FTNHUB Custom Internet Service's FTNHUB Support Echo FTN_PROGS Discussion of anything about FTN Programs FTP_FIDO Using Internet FTP to receive FidoNet echomail and files MARKET MCIBTYC My Computer is Better Than Your Computer MYTHOLOGY Mythology Conference. OBSOLETE Obsolete Computers OS2COMM OS/2 Comm PGMRS PLANET_CONNECT Planet Connect Discussions & Support RAILFANS Railfans, Train Watching, Prototype Railroads SOU_STAR Southern Star (1:396/1) Admin Area STRATEGY Strategy Computer Games WIN.SYSOP Windows-Based BBS Software Support WIN_95 UK Windows 95 Talk WWB_SYSOP World Wide Backbone Sysop Conference WWB_TECH World Wide Backbone Technical Conference FIDONEWS 16-37 Page 5 13 Sep 1999 Z3_2000_EVENTS The New Millennium events all around the world ZCC-DISCUSSION ZCC Discussions ZCC-PUBLIC ZCC-messages from the ZCC-conference The NAB list, backbone.na (05-Sep-99) has 751 echos. The WWB list, backbone.ww (05-Sep-99) has 773 echos. ======================================================= ----------------------------------------------------------------- NAB & Z1B Echo Diff by Lisa Gronke, 1:105/9 lisa@psg.com Comparing the echo lists of the NAB (North American Backbone) and the Z1B (Zone 1 Backbone) distribution systems: diff backbone.na (05-Sep-99) backbone.z1b (05-Sep-99) [edited] Echos on the NAB but not on the Z1B ----------------------------------- 60S_70S_PROGROCK 60's/70's Progressive Rock Music Echo AIDS-HIV AIDS & HIV ALASKA GENERAL CHAT FOR ALASKA AMIGA_FILEFIND Filefind Echo for AMIGA computers AMIGA_INT Amiga Worldwide AMY_COMMS Amiga Telecommunications Rounsrvlw ARIZONA GENERAL CHAT FOR ARIZONA ARKANSAS_ GENERAL CHAT FOR ARKANSAS ASL American Sign Language Echo ATHEISM Intra-atheist education and discussion echo. CALIFORNIA GENERAL CHAT FOR CALIFORNIA COLORADO GENERAL CHAT FOR COLORADO CONFED_HERITAGE Confederate Heritage CONNECTICUT GENERAL CHAT FOR CONNECTICUT DCTPROD The DCT Productions Support Echo DELAWARE GENERAL CHAT FOR DELAWARE DELPHI Borland Delphi Developers' Echo EC_SUPPORT Ezycom BBS Support for Sysop's EDGE_ONLINE End Times - Mystery Babylon and the Beast 666 EQUUS HORSE DISCUSSION ECHO FEED_CUT Designed to inform re echo feed cuts FLORIDA GENERAL CHAT FOR FLORIDA GEORGIA GENERAL CHAT FOR GEORGIA HAM_REQ Amateur Radio File Announcements & Requests HARDWARE Computer Hardware & Peripheral HAWAII GENERAL CHAT FOR HAWAII I95 Cruising Interstate 95 IDAHO GENERAL CHAT FOR IDAHO ILLINOIS GENERAL CHAT FOR ILLINOIS INDIANA GENERAL CHAT FOR INDIANA INJOY The InJoy Internet Dialer IOWA GENERAL CHAT FOR IOWA KANSAS GENERAL CHAT FOR KANSAS KENTUCKY GENERAL CHAT FOR KENTUCKY FIDONEWS 16-37 Page 6 13 Sep 1999 LE/SECURITY Law Enforcement/Security Issues & Concerns LOUISIANA GENERAL CHAT FOR LOUISIANA MAINE GENERAL CHAT FOR MAINE MARYLAND GENERAL CHAT FOR MARYLAND MASSACHUSETTS GENERAL CHAT FOR MASSACHUSETTS MEXICAN_LINK Mexico's International Link (Multilingual) MINNESOTA GENERAL CHAT FOR MINNESOTA MISSISSIPPI GENERAL CHAT FOR MISSISSIPPI MISSOURI GENERAL CHAT FOR MISSOURI MLM Multi-Level Marketing conference MONTANA GENERAL CHAT FOR MONTANA MOTOR_SPORTS_RESULTS Various Motor Sports Results MST3K Mystery Science Theater 3000 M_GRIPE Gripe: The Mother of All Echos NATURIST Naturist/nudist discussion NEBRASKA GENERAL CHAT FOR NEBRASKA NEVADA GENERAL CHAT FOR NEVADA NEW_HAMPSHIRE GENERAL CHAT FOR NEW HAMPSHIRE NEW_JERSEY GENERAL CHAT FOR NEW JERSEY NEW_MEXICO GENERAL CHAT FOR NEW MEXICO NEW_YORK GENERAL CHAT FOR NEW YORK NORTH_DAKOTA GENERAL CHAT FOR NORTH DAKOTA NT4_UK Discussion of Microsoft's NT4 Workstation/Server OHIO GENERAL CHAT FOR OHIO OJ_SIMPSON O.J. Simpson discussion OREGON GENERAL CHAT FOR OREGON OS2GAMES Help for running games in IBM OS/2 P5DRAFT Conference for Discussion of Policy 5 DRAFT PARROTS PARROTS CONFERENCE PAUL_REVERE The Paul Revere 2AM Grassroots Conference PCWRITE PCWrite and Multi-Platform Computing PENNSYLVANIA GENERAL CHAT FOR PENNSYLVANIA QMODEM_USER Qmodem Users Discussion Conference QM_ECHO QM EchoMail processor and related programs QUIKUTILS Official Matrix Technologies support echo RCM Radio Control Model II RHODE_ISLAND GENERAL CHAT FOR RHODE ISLAND RIBBS RiBBS (CoCo/OS9) Sysop Support SEMPOINT Echomail Conference for SEMPOINT users SET Setian Discussions (Formerly "Base of Set") SILENTTALK Echo for people who are deaf or hard of hearing SOUTH_CAROLINA GENERAL CHAT FOR SOUTH CAROLINA SOUTH_DAKOTA GENERAL CHAT FOR SOUTH DAKOTA SUPERBBS SuperBBS Support Echo S_KING Discussion of Stephen King and his works. TENNESSEE GENERAL CHAT FOR TENNESSEE THE_CURE_NETWORK Oregon State Political Discussions and News. TRANSCAN TransCanadian Soapbox echo TRIUS TRIUS, Inc. Product Support and Information UNUSUAL_PETS Unusual Pets Echo! UTAH GENERAL CHAT FOR UTAH VERMONT GENERAL CHAT FOR VERMONT VIN_MAISON The Wine Lovers Echo! VIRGINIA GENERAL CHAT FOR VIRGINIA WASHINGTON GENERAL CHAT FOR WASHINGTON WEST_VIRGINIA GENERAL CHAT FOR WEST VIRGINIA FIDONEWS 16-37 Page 7 13 Sep 1999 WISCONSIN GENERAL CHAT FOR WISCONSIN WYOMING GENERAL CHAT FOR WYOMING Z1-ELECTION Alternate Z1C Election discussion area Echos on the Z1B but not on the NAB ----------------------------------- None The NAB list, backbone.na (05-Sep-99) has 751 echos. The Z1B list, backbone.z1b (05-Sep-99) has 658 echos. ======================================================= ----------------------------------------------------------------- North American Backbone Echo Changes [Jul-Aug] by Lisa Gronke, 1:105/9 lisa@psg.com Summary of NAB echo changes during Jul & Aug. Brought to you courtesy of (unix) diff. diff backbone.na 04-Jul-99 backbone.na 05-Sep-99 [edited]. Echotag name change ------------------- > HOME_BEER_BREWING Beer Homebrewing [new echotag name] < ZYMURGY Beer Homebrewing [old echotag name] Echotag recycled for a new echo? -------------------------------- > MILLENNIUM Windows MILLENNIUM software Echo! [new echo] < MILLENNIUM Millennium TV show discussions [old echo] Added to the NAB list of echos ------------------------------ > 4MODSONLY For Moderator's ONLY Echo! > COMIC_RELIEF G-rated On-line Stand-up Comedy Shtick > FIDOPOLS Fidonet Policy Discussion Forum > HARDWARE Computer Hardware & Peripheral > LONELY_HEARTS Lonely Hearts echo! > PIZZANUT PIZZA & BEER quest, etc! > SEMPOINT Echomail Conference for SEMPOINT users > THE_SIMPSONS The Simpsons Discussion Echo > TWIT Twit's Echo! > UNUSUAL_PETS Unusual Pets Echo! Removed from the NAB list of echos ---------------------------------- < ADAM Adam International Computer Conference < ALTMED Alternative Medicine < ANIMAL_RIGHTS Animal Rights Conference < ARCADE COIN-operated Arcade chat < A_CAD International AutoCAD/CAD Conference < BIKE-N-RIDER Motorcycle Riders, Bike Safety and Riding FIDONEWS 16-37 Page 8 13 Sep 1999 < BIKENET Fidonet's BIKENET echo! < BLACK_POWDER < CALLSIGN Amateur Radio License Callsign Server Echo < CHANNELLING Channelled Msgs From Spirit Realms < COLLEGE International COLLEGE echo < COLLEGE_SINGLES College Singles -- hey baby, what's yer sign? < CONCORD Concord BBS program by Pasi Talliniemi < CORELDRAW CorelDraw graphics package discussion < CRAFTING-FORSALE Crafting Project and Supplies For Sale < DCP DayCare Providers Information Exchange < DIETING DIETING < ER Er Hit TV Show < FCC Radio and Data Telecommunications Regulation < FLAT_TAX Discussion on Taxation Issues < FREE_SPEECH Freedom of Speech and Expression < FTN_INTERNET FTN Internet Discussion < GOURMET Gourmet Cooking < HAM-ECHO Open discussion of Ham/Amateur Radio < HARLEY_DAVIDSON HARLEY_DAVIDSON echo. < HAYES Hayes Modems Discussion < HOBBIES HOBBIES < HWDEBATE Computer hardware debate < I_UFO UFO's, Science, Alien Contact, no ridicule < LOCAL_MUSIC Local Music < MILITARY Military General Conference for all services. < MISSING National Missing Persons Echo < MISSING_CHILD Missing Children Echo < MP3 International MP3 Discussion Forum < MYTHOLOGY Mythology Conference. < NEUROLOGY Neurology < NEWSCHAT Read and discuss FidoNews articles _ONLY_ < NOPIRACY Computer Piracy < NORML Electronic Media Venture Marijuana Information < OPTOMETRY Vision & Eye Care Discussions < PARANORMAL Paranormal discussions. < POST_POLIO International Post-Polio Survivors Forum < PYRO National Pyrotechnic Echo < QFRONT QFront Support Conference < QUANTUMLEAP Quantum Leap T.V. Show Discussion < REGIONS REGIONS echo < SACRED_MAGICK Magick and it's Mythos and Spiritualities. < SINGLE_PARENT Single Parent Information Exchange < STEP_PARENT Discuss issues relating to Step Parenting. < TELEMATE This is the TELEMATE Conference < THERAPY_SERVICE_DOG Discussion of Therapy, Service, and Guide Dogs < TRADEWARS Conference for Discussion of the Game Tradewars < VIDEO Video Area < WEBTV WEBTV < WELFARE Debate about systems of social welfare < WILDCAT5 A forum for discussion/support of Wildcat v5.x < WORLD_CRISIS Discussion of the World Financial Crisis ----------------------------------------------------------------- o There are 751 echos in backbone.na [05-Sep-99] (down 47) ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 16-37 Page 9 13 Sep 1999 Z1 Backbone Echo Changes [Jul-Aug] by Lisa Gronke, 1:105/9 lisa@psg.com Summary of Z1B echo changes during Jul & Aug. Brought to you courtesy of (unix) diff. diff backbone.z1b 04-Jul-99 backbone.z1b 05-Sep-99 [edited]. Echotag name change ------------------- > HOME_BEER_BREWING Beer Homebrewing [new echotag name] < ZYMURGY Beer Homebrewing [old echotag name] Echotag recycled for a new echo? -------------------------------- > MILLENNIUM Windows MILLENNIUM software Echo! [new echo] < MILLENNIUM Millennium TV show discussions [old echo] Added to the Z1B list of echos ------------------------------ > 4MODSONLY For Moderator's ONLY Echo! > COMIC_RELIEF G-rated On-line Stand-up Comedy Shtick > FIDONET2000 FidoNet 2000 Conference > FIDOPOLS Fidonet Policy Discussion Forum > LONELY_HEARTS Lonely Hearts echo! > NAVY U.S. Navy Support Echo Conference > PIZZANUT PIZZA & BEER quest, etc! > THEIST_WATCH American Atheist Watch on Religious Shenanigans > THE_SIMPSONS The Simpsons Discussion Echo > TWIT Twit's Echo! Removed from the Z1B list of echos ---------------------------------- < ADAM Adam International Computer Conference < ALTMED Alternative Medicine < ANIMAL_RIGHTS Animal Rights Conference < ARCADE COIN-operated Arcade chat < A_CAD International AutoCAD/CAD Conference < BIKE-N-RIDER Motorcycle Riders, Bike Safety and Riding < BIKENET Fidonet's BIKENET echo! < BLACK_POWDER < CALLSIGN Amateur Radio Callsign Database < CHANNELLING Channelled Msgs From Spirit Realms < COLLEGE International COLLEGE echo < COLLEGE_SINGLES College Singles -- hey baby, what's yer sign? < CONCORD Concord BBS program by Pasi Talliniemi < CORELDRAW CorelDraw graphics package discussion < CRAFTING-FORSALE Crafting Project and Supplies For Sale < DCP DayCare Providers Information Exchange < DCTPROD The DCT Productions Support Echo < DIETING DIETING < EDGE_ONLINE Endtime Discussion Group Exchange Online < ER Er Hit TV Show < FCC Radio and Data Telecommunications Regulation FIDONEWS 16-37 Page 10 13 Sep 1999 < FEED_CUT Designed to inform of echo feed cuts < FLAT_TAX Discussion on Taxation Issues etc. < FREE_SPEECH Freedom of Speech and Expression < FTN_INTERNET FTN Internet Discussion < GOURMET Gourmet Cooking < HAM-ECHO Open discussion of Ham/Amateur Radio < HARLEY_DAVIDSON HARLEY_DAVIDSON echo. < HAYES Hayes Modems Discussion < HOBBIES HOBBIES < HWDEBATE Computer hardware debate < INJOY The InJoy Internet Dialer < I_UFO UFO's, Science, Alien Contact, no ridicule < LE/SECURITY Law Enforcement/Security Issues & Concerns < LOCAL_MUSIC Local Music < MISSING National Missing Persons Echo < MISSING_CHILD Missing Children Echo < MOTOR_SPORTS_RESULTS Various Motor Sports Results < MP3 International MP3 Discussion Forum < MST3K Mystery Science Theater 3000 < MYTHOLOGY Mythology Conference. < NEUROLOGY Neurology < NEWSCHAT Read and discuss FidoNews articles _ONLY_ < NOPIRACY Computer Piracy < NORML Electronic Media Venture Marijuana Information < NT4_UK Discussion of Microsoft's NT4 Workstation < OPTOMETRY Vision & Eye Care Discussions < OS2GAMES Help for running games in IBM OS/2 < P5DRAFT Conference for Discussion of Policy 5 DRAFT < PARANORMAL Paranormal discussions. < PENNSYLVANIA GENERAL CHAT FOR PENNSYLVANIA < POST_POLIO International Post-Polio Survivors Forum < PYRO National Pyrotechnic Echo < QFRONT QFront Support Conference < QMODEM_USER Qmodem Users Discussion Conference < QM_ECHO QM EchoMail processor and related programs < QUANTUMLEAP Quantum Leap T.V. Show Discussion < QUIKUTILS Official Matrix Technologies support echo < REGIONS REGIONS echo. < RIBBS RiBBS (CoCo/OS9) Sysop Support < SACRED_MAGICK Magick and it's Mythos and Spiritualities. < SILENTTALK Deaf and Hard of Hearing support Echo. < SINGLE_PARENT Single Parent Information Exchange < STEP_PARENT Discuss issues relating to Step Parenting. < S_KING Discussion of Stephen King and his works. < TELEMATE This is the TELEMATE support Conference < THERAPY_SERVICE_DOG Discussion of Therapy, Service, and Guide Dogs < THE_CURE_NETWORK Oregon State Political Discussions and News. < TRANSCAN Trans Canada Drivel < TRIUS TRIUS, Inc. Product Support and Information < VIDEO Video Area < WEBTV WEBTV < WELFARE Debate about systems of social welfare < WILDCAT5 A forum for discussion/support of Wildcat v5.x < WORLD_CRISIS Discussion of the World Financial Crisis < Z1_FIDONET Zone 1 Chat about almost any thing Echo. ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 16-37 Page 11 13 Sep 1999 o There are 658 echo in backbone.z1b [05-Sep-99] (down 66) ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 16-37 Page 12 13 Sep 1999 ================================================================= NOTICES ================================================================= Future History 26 Oct 1999 Thirty years from release Abbey Road album by the Beatles. 31 Dec 1999 Hogmanay, Scotland. The New Year that can't be missed. 1 Jan 2000 The 20th Century, C.E., is still taking place thru 31 Dec. 1 Jun 2000 EXPO 2000 World Exposition in Hannover (Germany) opens. 15 Sep 2000 Sydney (Australia) Summer Olympiad opens. 21 Sep 2000 10 years of FidoNet in +7 (xUSSR) 1 Jan 2001 This is the actual start of the new millennium, C.E. -- If YOU have something which you would like to see in this Future History, please send a note to the FidoNews Editor. ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 16-37 Page 13 13 Sep 1999 ================================================================= FIDONET BY INTERNET ================================================================= This is a list of all FidoNet-related sites reported to the FidoNews Editor as of this issue; see the notice at the end. FidoNet: Homepage http://www.fidonet.org FidoNews http://www.fidonews.org [HTML] http://209.77.228.66/fidonews.html [ASCII] WWW sources http://travel.to/fidonet/ FTSC page http://www.ftsc.org/ Echomail [pending] General http://owls.com/~jerrys/fidonet.html List servers: http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/fidonet-discussion ============ Zone 1: http://www.z1.fidonet.org Region 10: http://www.psnw.com/~net205/region10.html Region 11: http://oeonline.com/~garyg/region11/ Region 13: http://www.net264.org/r13.htm Net 264: http://www.net264.org/ Region 14: Net 282: http://www.rxn.com/~net282/ Region 17: http://www.nwstar.com/~region17/ Region 18: http://techshop.pdn.net/fido/ Region 19: http://members.home.net/hbh3/r19 Zone 1 Elist http://www.baltimoremd.com/elist/ ============ Zone 2: http://www.z2.fidonet.org Region 20: http://www.fidonet.pp.se (in Swedish) Region 24: http://www.swb.de/personal/flop/gatebau.html (German) Fido-IP: http://home.nrh.de/fido (English/German) Region 25: http://www.bsnet.co.uk/net2502/net/ Region 26: http://www.nemesis.ie REC 26: http://www.nrgsys.com/orb FIDONEWS 16-37 Page 14 13 Sep 1999 Region 27: http://telematique.org/ft/r27.htm Region 29: http://www.rtfm.be/fidonet/ (French) Region 30: http://www.fidonet.ch (German) Region 33: http://www.fidoitalia.net (Italian) Region 34: http://www.pobox.com/cnb/r34.htm (Spanish) REC34: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/4552/ Region 36: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/7207/ Region 38: http://public.st.carnet.hr/~blagi/bbs/adriam.html Region 41: http://www.fidonet.gr (Greek/English) Region 42: http://www.fido.cz Region 50: http://www.fido7.com/ (Russian) Net 5015: http://www.fido.nnov.ru/ (Russian) Net 5030: http://kenga.ru/fido/ (Russian & English) Net 5085: http://www.fidonet.uz/ (Russian) ============ Zone 3: http://www.z3.fidonet.org ============ Zone 4: Region 80: http://fidobrasil.8m.com (Portuguese) Region 90: Net 904: http://members.tripod.com/~net904 (Spanish) ============ Zone 5: http://www.eastcape.co.za/fidonet/ ============ Zone 6: http://www.z6.fidonet.org Region 65: http://www.cfido.com/fidonet/cfidochina.html (Chinese) ============ Pages listed above are as submitted to the FidoNews Editor, and generally reflect Zone and Regional Web Page sites. 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TCP/IP accessible node access information should be submitted FIDONEWS 16-37 Page 15 13 Sep 1999 to the FidoNews Editor for inclusion in their Region or Zone. -----------oOo------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 16-37 Page 16 13 Sep 1999 ================================================================= FIDONEWS INFORMATION ================================================================= ------- FIDONEWS MASTHEAD AND CONTACT INFORMATION ------- Editor: Henk Wolsink Editors Emeriti: Tom Jennings, Thom Henderson, Dale Lovell, Vince Perriello, Tim Pozar, Sylvia Maxwell, Donald Tees, Christopher Baker, Zorch Frezberg "FidoNews Editor" FidoNet 5:5/23 BBS +27-41-581-5913, 2400/9600/V34 more addresses: Henk Wolsink -- 5:7104/2, hwolsink@catpe.alt.za (Postal Service mailing address) FidoNews Editor P.O. 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