F I D O N E W S Volume 17, Number 32 07 Aug 2000 +----------------------------+---------------------------------------+ | The newsletter of the | ISSN 1198-4589 Published by: | | FidoNet community | "FidoNews" | | _ | 1-717-732-6820 1:270/720 | | / \ | | | /|oo \ | | | (_| /_) | | | _`@/_ \ _ | | | | | \ \\ | Editor: Douglas Myers, 1:270/720 | | | (*) | \ )) | DougM@paonline.com | | |__U__| / \// | | | _//|| _\ / | | | (_/(_|(____/ | | | (jm) | Newspapers should have no friends. | | | -- JOSEPH PULITZER | +----------------------------+---------------------------------------+ Table of Contents 1. EDITORIAL ................................................ 1 To Whom It May Concern ................................... 1 2. LETTERS TO THE EDITOR .................................... 3 Inquiry - Paid Advertising ............................... 3 3. COLUMNS .................................................. 5 Ol'WDB: Redneck Computer Addict ......................... 5 4. NET HUMOR ................................................ 8 The Other Side of Redneck Humor .......................... 8 Water Closet Origin ...................................... 9 5. COMIX IN ASCII ........................................... 10 The Moo-vers ............................................. 10 6. INTERNET INFO ............................................ 11 Fidonet-related sites .................................... 11 7. FIDONEWS INFO ............................................ 15 Masthead ................................................. 15 FIDONEWS 17-32 Page 1 7 Aug 2000 ================================================================= EDITORIAL ================================================================= To Whom It May Concern Thank you for your recent chain letter. As a matter of practice, I don't forward these things, so you may rest assured that I've been doomed to the pits of hellfire and damnation... or whatever your chain letter specifies; I didn't really read through all the forwarding addresses and quote headers to catch the exact consequences. It's not that I want to be cavalier about this. I suppose that there are supernatural forces in this world which could actually visit damnation on me. I can even imagine that some would choose to spread their gospel through the electronic media rather than use the primitive technology of Gutenberg to disseminate bound volumes. But the buck stops here. I may have bought a one-way ticket across the River Styx, but I'm not trying to sponsor a tour. You, on the other hand, are in deep doo-doo! Did you forward this letter to ten people? Then the best that you can hope for is that the other nine ignored you too, and will be waiting in Hell with me to get the SOB who sent us here. It could be worse... maybe half the people you sent this to took your letter seriously and sent it to ten others. Maybe half of these folks ignored the letter. Now, instead of five folks waiting for you with mayhem on their mind, you have 25. But it doesn't end here... there are still 25 people cranking out the tickets to the underworld which you are responsible for, and that might result in 125 damned souls and 125 folks who will help propagate your instrument of soul condemnation. Pretty soon the place is gonna get crowded with a lot of folks ticked at YOU. Of course, you can avoid this fate by leading a holy life and faithfully passing on all the chain letters that you get. Or can you? Will you ever see the last of these missives? If there aren't enough of these chain letters already floating around, you've set up the mechanism which ensures that you'll see them indefinitely into the future. At some point in time, you'll weaken... maybe with age you'll no longer be able to click on the option which forwards these instruments of damnation... or maybe you'll run out of addresses. Not only have you doomed yourself to a Hell on Earth as you scurry to keep these chain letters flowing, but you're actively increasing the reception committee just waiting for you to slip up. I, on the other hand, may outlive you. You see, I'll be leading an unfrenzied life doing exactly what I want... for my fate has been already sealed by you. You probably won't need to worry about me when when I'm cast into the pit, though. I'll be maintaining a discrete distance. After all, _I_ am not the one who pissed off the millions of other damned! FIDONEWS 17-32 Page 2 7 Aug 2000 ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 17-32 Page 3 7 Aug 2000 ================================================================= LETTERS TO THE EDITOR ================================================================= Inquiry - Paid Advertising Email from Kim LaSalle KLaSalle@Shandwick.com Dear FidoNet News Editor: I represent a large manufacturer of pet food and wonder if you could tell me a little more about your newsletter. My client is relaunching the Web site in a couple of months and we're looking for organizations and BBS in which we can place paid announcements -- not too commercial sounding, just a few lines to introduce the new site. It's a nice site and has a lot of pet care information located throughout it. Do you accept advertising in your newsletter? I there another means in which we could place paid announcements throughout your system? Thanks in advance for the information. I look forward to hearing from you. Regards, Kim LaSalle Kim LaSalle Engagement Manager - St. Louis Zentropy Partners ph: 314.552.6731 fax: 314.436.5377 http://www.zentropypartners.com --------------- [Editor's Reply] Dear Kim, Traditionally, Fidonews does not accept advertising. It's not that we have anything against pet food or commercial enterprise, but Fidonet is a hobbiest network. Fidonews is distributed by individual hobbiests in that network, who volunteer their time and effort. I'd feel kinda guilty about soliciting paid advertising and yet watching these hobbiests move the newsletter with no compensation. Besides, I couldn't begin to give you demographics on our readers... Nonetheless, I'll be publishing your letter in the next edition of Fidonews... it lets the readers know of the advertising policy here. If there are BBS systems aboard who are interested in working with you, they're free to contact you. FIDONEWS 17-32 Page 4 7 Aug 2000 By the way, there's no charge for publishing a letter - even if it does contain information you probably would have put in an ad anyway :) ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 17-32 Page 5 7 Aug 2000 ================================================================= COLUMNS ================================================================= Ol'WDB's Column wdbonner@pacbvell.net REDNECK COMPUTER ADDICT Thanks to Mutha a genuine redneck WARNING: It is highly recommended that you put down the beer can and the shotgun before reading any further Ya might be a redneck addicted to the world of computers if....... If yer computer stand is made of a stack of old tires or 2 x 8's and cinderblocks. Ya think www. in a url is a logo for a wrestling organization. Someone tells ya they're "locked up" and ya ask if they need bail money. Ya've ever been too drunk to chat. Yer screen saver is a confederate flag and plays Dixie. Ya think a harddrive is a trip to Uncle Bubba's. Yer mouse keeps knocking over yer spit can. Ya think a surge suppressor is a pill for diarrhea. Ya keep trying to figure out why yer scanner won't pick up police radio calls. Ya think a megabyte is a new sandwich at McDonalds. Ya have to ask someone how to spell LOL. Yer stomach overlaps half of yer keyboard. Ya try to figure out how to get yer empty beer cans into the recyclin' bin. Ya try to turn on yer computer with the remote. Ya try to figure out how yer floppy disk got hard. Ya play Frisbee with yer CD Rom's Ya find yerself on the floor looking into yer "A Drive" yelling 'Give it back! Give it Back'. When birds fly across yer screen an ya reach for yer shotgun. FIDONEWS 17-32 Page 6 7 Aug 2000 Ya put a mousetrap on yer desk Yer yards full of ol' computers stacked on cinder blocks. Ya use yer CD-ROM drive as a beer holder. Ya call tech support an ask where ta buy stamps fer yer e-mail. When ya tern yer computer on ya say "Come OOOOOOON Betsy". Ya think system wizard is a dude in a funny hat. Ya think 64 M RAM is a nu big block engine fer yer pickup. Ya think ICQ is how smart yer computer is. Someone tellz ya yer computer has a bug an ya reach for the can of Raid. Ya think a mouse pad iz where Mighty Mouse and his cousins hang. Ya go buy a surfboard to surf the net. Ya think yer homepage is where ya really live. Ya give Directions to a website that include a person, animal, or old barn. Ya Think MB stands for "More Beer". Ya wait fer the bluelight special at K-Mart ta buy yer 'putter. Ya see the word Download, and take the shells out of yer shotgun. Ya think the person that made yer keyboard was dumb cuz the letters aint in order. Ya think pushing the delete key will make yer ol' lady disappear. Ya think CD stands for Cow Dung. Ya think IBM stands for "I'ze Better'n Most" Ya think GIF stands fer "Goodie It's Free" Ya think JPG stands "Just Pretty Good" Ya Think Mirabilis (ICQ) is a new brand of smokes. Ya see the "shift" key and try ta figure out how ta change gears. Ya put a quilt over yer screen when a make whoopee to yer ol' lady. Ya wonder why yer screen saver ain't wearing a cape like that there superhero on the cartoons. FIDONEWS 17-32 Page 7 7 Aug 2000 Ya think screen saver is a new flavor o' candy. Ya think Geocities is a place ta buy lil cars. Ya catch yerself tryin' to smell the lil flower on yer ICQ contact list. Ya think the "A drive" is where ya park yer pickup. Ya see the word "Zip" and know why youz feelin' a draft. Yer puter has a bumper sticker on it. Part of yer puter is held together with duct tape. Ya sees the word "Refresh" and reach into the cooler fer another beer. You's in a chat room and someone asks where yer from and you reply "Yo momma" You sees the word "Website" and start looking for spiders home. You see the word "FIDONET" and look for a doggie dog catcher's tool. ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 17-32 Page 8 7 Aug 2000 ================================================================= NET HUMOR ================================================================= The Other Side of Redneck Humor Thanks to Roy Reed You might be a Yankee if... The sound of Fran Drescher's voice doesn't bother you. You've watched the movie "Deliverance" and you're afraid to go on a camping trip. Ever. For breakfast, you'd rather have potatoes than grits. You can name at least 4 hockey teams. You've never eaten Okra. You wonder why people in restaurants don't talk as loud as you do. You have never planned your summer vacation around a gun & knife show. You don't have any problems pronouncing "Worcestershire sauce" correctly. You've never had grain alcohol. You are familiar with all the rules to Lacrosse. You have no idea what a polecat is. You don't see anything wrong with putting a sweater on a poodle. You've never had bangs.(ed. note - OR if you do have them, they aren't several inches ABOVE the top of your head) You'd rather vacation at Martha's Vineyard than Six Flags. You don't have at least one can of WD-40 somewhere around the house. You would rather have your son become a lawyer than grow up to get his own TV fishing show. You refer to two or more people as "you guys" instead of "y'all". You think more money should go to important scientific research at your university than to pay the salary of the head football coach. You prefer a bagel over a donut. You don't know anyone with two first names (i.e. Joe Bob, Billy Bob,Kay Bob, Bob Bob, Sara Jane) FIDONEWS 17-32 Page 9 7 Aug 2000 You get freaked out when strangers in public talk to you. None of your fur coats are made with real fur. You don't know what a Piggly-Wiggly is. You think NASCAR stands for the North American Society for...(something) You eat fried chicken with a knife and fork. Your idea of a perfect meal is "Lahbsta and Clam Chawdah." You use the horn in your car more than once or twice a year. Everything you know about the Civil War you learned watching TV. You don't "reckon". You're not "fixin" to do anything. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Water Closet Origin Thanks to Roy Reed BEIJING - Britain's claim to have invented the water closet went down the drain with the discovery of a 2,000-year-old toilet complete with running water, a stone seat and a comfortable armrest. Officials say the antique latrine was found in the tomb of a king of the Western Han Dynasty, located in the central province of Henan. The king ruled from 206 BC to 24 AD and was said to believe that his soul would need to enjoy human life after death. London plumber Thomas Crapper has frequently been credited with the invention of the flush toilet and patented a U-bend siphoning system for flushing the pan in the late 19th century. [It was not mentioned whether a stack of ancient magazines were found next to the latrine.] ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 17-32 Page 10 7 Aug 2000 ================================================================= COMIX IN ASCII ================================================================= ______________________________________________ _______ | | / _____ | | ACME MOO-VERS | / /(__) || | | ________/ / |OO| || | | | |-------|| | | (| | -.|| |_____________________ | | ____ \ ||_______||____________ | ____ ____ | /| / __ \ |______|| / __ \ / __ \ | | / __ \ / __ \ | \|| / \ |_____________| / \ |_| / \ |__| |_____| / \ |__| / \ |_| | () | | () | | () | | () | | () | \__/ \__/ \__/ \__/ \__/ "The Moo-vers are here!" ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 17-32 Page 11 7 Aug 2000 ================================================================= INTERNET INFO ================================================================= . -- -- -- -- --- -- -- -- -- . | FIDONET-RELATED SITES | ` -- -- -- -- --- -- -- -- -- ' Last update: July 16, 2000 FidoNet Homepage: http://www.fidonet.org FidoNews: http://www.fidonews.org [HTML] ftp://ftp.nwstar.com/fidonet/fidonews/ ftp://ftp.sstar.com/fidonet/fnews/ Echolist: http://www.baltimoremd.com/echolist/ Echomail links: http://www.osirusoft.com/fidonet/fidoip.html SDS Files: http://fidobbs.dk/download (Web Access to SDS) FTSC page: http://www.ftsc.org/ General: http://www.writebynight.com/fidonet.html Zone 1: http://www.z1.fidonet.org Region 10: http://www.r10.org http://www.psnw.com/~net205/region10.html Net 103: http://www.webworldinc.com/club103/ Net 203: http://www.geocities.com/Area51/8687/net203index.html Region 11: http://oeonline.com/~garyg/region11/ Net 2410: http://oeonline.com/~garyg/net2410/ Region 12: http://sparkys.dyndns.org Region 13: http://www.net264.org/r13.htm Net 264: http://www.net264.org/ Net 275: http://www.homershut.net/~mahoover/net275/ Region 14: http://www.ouijabrd.com/region14 Net 282: http://www.rxn.com/~net282/ Region 15: Region 16: Region 17: http://www.nwstar.com/~region17/ Net 140: http://www.nwstar.com/~net140 Region 18: http://techshop.pdn.net/fido/ Region 19: http://bise.tzo.com/r19 Net 124: http://www.startext.net/np/net124 http://texoma.net/~flv Net 130: http://www.startext.net/homes/net130 Net 393: http://www.chatter.com/~wb/ Zone 2: http://www.z2.fidonet.org ftp://ftp.sstar.com/fidonet/zone2 (Z2 nodelists etc.) Region 20: http://www.fidonet.pp.se (in Swedish) Region 23: http://www.fido.dk (in Danish) Region 24: http://www.swb.de/personal/flop/gatebau.html (German) http://www.was-ist-fido.de/ Fido-IP: http://home.nrh.de/fido/ (English/German) Region 25: http://www.literary.freeserve.co.uk/net2502/ Region 26: http://www.nemesis.ie FIDONEWS 17-32 Page 12 7 Aug 2000 REC 26: http://www.nrgsys.com/orb Region 27: http://telematique.org/ft/r27.htm Region 29: http://www.rtfm.be/fidonet/ (French) http://Welcome.to/skynetbbs/ Region 30: http://www.fidonet.ch (German) ? Region 33: http://www.fidoitalia.net (Italian) Region 34: http://www.pobox.com/cnb/r34.htm (Spanish) REC34: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/4552/ Region 36: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/7207/ Region 38: http://public.st.carnet.hr/~blagi/bbs/adriam.html Region 41: http://www.fidonet.gr (Greek/English) Region 42: http://www.fido.cz ! Net422: http://www.fido.sk (Slovak/English) Region 50: http://www.fido7.com/ (Russian) Net 5010: http://fido.tu-chel.ac.ru/ (Russian) Net 5015: http://www.fido.nnov.ru/ (Russian) Net 5028: http://5028.yaroslavl.ru/ Net 5030: http://kenga.ru/fido/ (Russian & English) Net 5049: http://www.n5049.z2.fidonet.org (English/Russian) ?? Net 5085: http://www.fidonet.uz/ (Russian) Zone 3: http://www.z3.fidonet.org Zone 4: Region 80: http://fidobrasil.8m.com (Portuguese) Region 90: Net 904: http://members.tripod.com/~net904 (Spanish) Zone 5: http://www.eastcape.co.za/fidonet/ Zone 6: http://www.z6.fidonet.org Region 65: http://www.cfido.com/fidonet/cfidochina.html (Chinese) Fidonet Via Internet Hubs See also: http://www.osirusoft.com/fidoip.html a @ preceding an individual's name implies a virtual email address. The email is translated as follows firstlast@osirusoft.com will automatically route to the appropriate individual's email. Anyone in this list will also receive routed notice of this feature. In my case, it would still be joejared@osirusoft.com, but you get the idea. Also, as information is provided to me, I will be adding a latency field to each node, which is defined as the maximum time between when the message is received, and when it is sent on to other nodes, or available to be sent onward, defined in minutes. A latency of ! implies that there is an immediate response, and an attempt to deliver immediately after processing, or a "MinuteMail System", as it were. v-email flag firstnamelastname@osirusoft.com | email address or FIDONEWS 17-32 Page 13 7 Aug 2000 Node# | Operator | Facilities (*) | Speed,| Basic Rate | | |latency| -----------+-------------------+----------------+-------+------------ Zone 1 | | | | 10/3 @ Brenda Donovan | FTP,UUE,BinkP | 384K,30| n/c 10/345 @ Todd Cochrane | FTP,BinkP,VMOT | T1,! | n/c 12/12 @ Ken Wilson | FTP | T1 | $24mo. 13/25 @ Jim Balcom | FTP | 56k | $20mo. 103/5 @ Mark Luetger | BinkP | 384k,!| n/c 103/153 @ Michael Box | BinkP | aDSL,!| n/c 103/301 @ Joe Jared | BinkP,FTP,NFS | 384k,!| n/c 103/401 @ Warren Bonner | BinkP | aDSL,!| n/c 105/8 | Russ Johnson | FTP,BinkP,VMoT | 384k | n/c 105/72 @ Larry James | FTP, BinkP | aDSL | $50/yr 106/1 @ Steve Loupe | BinkP, FTP | 128k | ??? 106/6018 | Lawrence Garvin | FTP, VMoT | aDSL,60| n/c 107/453 @ Jeffrey Estevez| FTP,BinkP,VMoT,UUE| 56k,60| $10 mo. 140/1 @ Bob Seaborn | FTP,BinkP | T3,30 | $5/$16 167/133 | Stephen Monteith | BinkP | 128k+ | n/c 211/417 @ Korombos | BinkP,UUE,FTP | T1 | n/c 218/109 @ Matt Munson | BinkP,UUE | 33.6k | n/c 244/2 | Kari Suomela | FTP,VMoT,BinkP,UUE| T1,! | $25.00/mo 246/160 @ Mason Vye | FTP, UUE | 56K | n/c 280/169 | Brian Greenstreet | FTP | 33.6 | $2mo. 342/3 @ Richard Dodsworth | BinkP,FTP | 128K+ | n/c 395/670 | Arthur Stark | BinkD,FTP | 128k | n/c 396/1 @ John Souvestre | FTP,VMoT | T1,10 | $5/mo 396/45 | Marc Lewis | UUE | 33.6 | $26/yr 2604/104 @ Jim Mclaughlin | FTP,VMoT,UUE | 33.6 | $1mo 2613/404 @ David Moufarrege | BinkP,FTP,VMoT | 128k+,!| n/c 2624/306 @ David Calafrancesco | VMoT | 33.6 | n/c 3613/2 @ jyates@bsdi.ldl.net | UUE | 28.8 | n/c 3632/84 | Robert Todd |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c 3639/93 @ Ross Cassell | FTP, BinkP |128K+,!| n/c 3651/9 @ Jerry Gause | FTP,VMoT | 33.6 | $3/$6 -------------------------------------------------------------- Zone 2 | 20/11 | Henrik Lindhe | BinkP | ??? | n/c 31/1 | Gabriel Plutzar | BinkP | T1+ | n/c 203/600 | Mikael Karlsson | UUE | 64k | n/c 221/360 @ Tommi Koivula | BinkP,UUE | ??? | n/c 236/205 @ Michael Kaaber | BinkP | ??? | n/c 246/2098 | Volker Imre | BinkP | ??? | n/c 284/800 @ Jeroen VanDeLeur | FTP,UUE | 64k | n/c 292/620 | Eddy Missoul | VMoT, UUE | 64k |N/C 292/624 | Steven Leeman | UUE | 64k | N/C 292/2003 | Eric Vaneberck | BinkP | 768k | n/c 301/1 | Peter Witschi | BinkP | 768k | n/c 332/807 | Roberto Mascolo | BinkP | ??? | n/c 335/535 @ Mario Mure | BinkP,VMot,UUE | 64k | n/c 335/610 | Gino Lucrezi | UUE | 33.6 | n/c 344/201 | Julio Garcia | BinkP | ??? | n/c 346/3 @ Carlos Navarro | UUE | ??? | n/c 382/100 | Sinisa Burina | BinkP | ??? | n/c 406/555 | Ofir Michaeli & | BinkP | ??? | n/c 406/555 | Marius Kaizerman | BinkP | ??? | n/c FIDONEWS 17-32 Page 14 7 Aug 2000 423/81 | Milos Bajer | BinkP | ??? | n/c 464/4077 | Serguei Trouchelle| UUE | 19.2 | n/c 465/204 | Va Milushnikov | BinkP | 33.6k | n/c 469/84 | Max Masyutin | VMoT | 256k | n/c 480/112 | Adam Sarapata| FTP, VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 128k | n/c 2411/413 @ Dennis Dittrich | UUE,BinkP | 64k | n/c 2446/301 @ Lothar Behet | BinkP,VMoT,UUE,FTP | 64K | n/c 2474/275 | Christian Emig | UUE | 64k | unkn 5030/115 | Andrey Podkolzin | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5100/8 | Egons Bush | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5020/1159 | Gennady Kudryashoff | UUE | 33.6 | n/c -------------------------------------------------------------- Zone 3 633/260 @ Malcolm Miles | FTP,BinkP | 64K | n/c 640/954 | Rick Van Ruth | FTP,VMot,UUE,BinkP| 56K| n/c 774/605 @ Barry Blackford|BinkP,VMoT:10023,ifcico,FTP |33.6| n/c -------------------------------------------------------------- Zone 4 905/100 | Fabian Gervan | VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 128k | n/c 902/18 | Javier Tejedor | UUE | 33,6 | n/c -- * FTP = Internet File Transfer Protocol * VMoT = Virtual Mailer over Telnet (various) * UUE = uuencode<->email type transfers * BinkP = front end mailer for TCPIP networks * NFS = Linux Networking ---------------------------------------------- Fidonet oriented news servers news.osirusoft.com news.tardis.net Fidonet oriented chat rooms. room #fidonet 5PM (PDT 11AM GMT) Sundays irc.osirusoft.com (Peers wanted) ---------------------------------------------- Please send updates, corrections and suggestions to Joe Jared, 1:103/301, joejared@osirusoft.com. All email addresses here for purpose of corresponding with fidonet members about obtaining a feed. Improper use of the virtual email addresses, and most especially, email addressed to blockme@relays.osirusoft.com will be considered a request to be blocked by my open relay spam stopper at http://relays.osirusoft.com ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 17-32 Page 15 7 Aug 2000 ================================================================= FIDONEWS INFO ================================================================= Masthead + -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- FIDONEWS STAFF - -- -- -- -- -- -- -- + | | | Editor: Douglas Myers, 1:270/720, DougM@paonline.com | | Webmaster: Jim Barchuk, jb@fidonews.org | | Columnist: Joe Jared, 1:103/0, jarhead@osirusoft.com | | (Fido Via Internet Hubs column) | | Columnist: Warren D. Bonner, 1:103/401, wdbonner@pacbell.net | | (Warren uses the pen name "Ol'WDB") | | Humor: Roy Reed, rcreedv@juno.com | | Features: Frank Vest, 1:124/6308.1 | | | + -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- + + -- -- -- -- -- -- -- - EDITORS EMERITI - -- -- -- -- -- -- -- + | | | Tom Jennings, Thom Henderson, Dale Lovell, Vince | | Perriello, Tim Pozar, Sylvia Maxwell, Donald Tees, | | Christopher Baker, Zorch Frezberg, Henk Wolsink | | | + -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- + "Fido", "FidoNet" and the dog-with-diskette are U.S. registered trademarks of Tom Jennings, P.O. Box 410923, San Francisco, CA 94141, and are used with permission. Fidonews is published weekly by and for the members of Fidonet. Fidonews is Copyright (C) 2000 by Douglas Myers, though authors retain rights to their contributed articles. Opinion expressed by the authors is strictly their own. Noncommercial duplication and distribution within Fidonet is encouraged. Authors are encouraged to send their articles in ASCII text to Douglas Myers at one of his addresses above. The weekly edition of Fidonews is distributed through the file area FIDONEWS, and is published as echomail in the echo FIDONEWS. These sources are normally available through your Network Coordinator. The current and past issues are also available from the following sources: + -- -- -- -- -- -- - FIDONEWS AVAILABILITY - -- -- -- -- -- -- + | | | Freq FIDONEWS @ 1:270/720, 1:140/1, or 1:396/1 | | ftp://ftp.sstar.com/fidonet/fnews/ | | ftp://ftp.nwstar.com/fidonet/fidonews/ | | http://www.fidonews.org | | email subscription: majordomo@fidonews.org | | (subject: help body: list) | | ftp mail: ftpmail@fidonews.org (subject: help) | | | + -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- + FIDONEWS 17-32 Page 16 7 Aug 2000 -----------------------------------------------------------------