The F I D O N E W S Volume 18, Number 40 01 Oct 2001 +--------------------------+-----------------------------------------+ | |The newsletter of the | | Fido, Fidonet and dog-with-diskette are | | | FidoNet community. | | US Registered Trademarks of Tom Jennings| | | | | San Francisco, California, USA | | | ____________| | | | | / __ | Crash Netmail Articles To: | | | / / \ | Editor@1:1/23 (1-972-562-8064) | | | WOOF! ( /|oo \ | Frank Vest@1:124/6308 | | \_______\(_| /_) | or E-Mail To: | | __@__ \ _ | flv@texoma.net | | | | \ \\ | | | | (*) | \ ))| Editor: Frank Vest | | |__U__| / \// | Deputy-Editor: Lawrence Garvin | | _Elist_ _//|| _\ / | | | / Me? \ (_/(_|(____/ | Newspapers should have no friends. | |(_________) (jm) | -- JOSEPH PULITZER | +--------------------------+-----------------------------------------+ Copyright 2001 by Frank L. Vest, Editor for Fidonews Globally. Table of Contents 1. FOOD FOR THOUGHT ......................................... 1 2. GENERAL ARTICLES ......................................... 2 Continuing the Elist thoughts ............................ 2 Echolist, And How It's Done in Zone 2 Region 24 .......... 3 3. COMIX IN ASCII ........................................... 5 Cows ..................................................... 5 4. CLEAN HUMOR & JOKES ...................................... 6 Dividing the Nuts ........................................ 6 Some More Church Humor ................................... 6 5. OTHER STUFF .............................................. 8 This week's Calandar ..................................... 8 6. FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING ................................. 9 Fidonet/BBS Software Listing's* .......................... 9 7. FIDONET BY INTERNET ...................................... 15 Fidonet-related sites .................................... 15 8. FIDONEWS INFORMATION ..................................... 21 How to Submit an Article ................................. 21 Credits, Legal Infomation, Availability .................. 22 Nodelist Stats ........................................... 23 FIDONEWS 18-40 Page 1 1 Oct 2001 ================================================================= FOOD FOR THOUGHT ================================================================= "We are all prisoners of the average. This is not merely an intuition...it is based on observations too varied to try to organize by genus and phyla. So I will just heap them up in front of you: darkness and light...yea and nay...heat and cold...good and evil...sickness and health...wealth and poverty...beauty and ugliness...subjective and objective... positive and negative...big, little...high, low...just, unjust...you name it..." ---Bill Bonner, The Daily Reckoning ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 18-40 Page 2 1 Oct 2001 ================================================================= GENERAL ARTICLES ================================================================= Continuing the Elist thoughts By Frank Vest 1:124/6308 Last week I wrote a small article about thoughts on the Elist in Zone1. It seems that Zone1 isn't the only Zone where an Elist is in place. I'm going to continue these thoughts in hopes of merging them and see what happens. Zone1 has two echomail distributors. The Z1B (Zone 1 Backbone) and the NAB (North American Backbone). The main difference I see between the two backbones is that one purges echos based on traffic and the Elisting and the other uses the Elist only. I'm not going to argue the pros and cons of purging by traffic. The common factor here is that both use the Elist in some way. A. The Elist is the basis for what echos are carried in Zone1. 1. The Elist shows what Network distributes a particular echo. a. If the echo is listed for Fidonet distribution, it's a Fidonet echo? b. If an echo is listed as being from another Network, it is an "OtherNet" echo? 2. If an echo is listed in one Network and another Network wishes to distribute that echo, an agreement for gating the echo between the Networks must be worked out? So, it seems that the Elist is a tool to determine what echos are available and from what Network. If an echo is Elisted as an "Othernet" echo, it can not be distributed in Fidonet Zone1 and visa versa?? Let's look at this. Example: I start an echo with a tag of BACK_TO_BASICS. I Elist it as a Fidonet echo for distribution. An "Othernet" decides to start an echo with the same tag. Does the fact that I have it Elisted as a Fidonet echo stop them? I doubt it. Would it stop me from distributing the echo if it was Elisted as an "Othernet" echo. Not if I wanted to distribute it. Of course, the echo wouldn't be Elisted as my echo. The thought here is multi-part. A. Is the Elist a tool or a rule? 1. If a tool, then all Echo Tags must be listed or listable? a. The fact that one Network has an echo tag listed could not be cause for refusing to list the same tag from another network? 1. There could be 2+ listings for each echo tag. Each listing from a different Network? 2. If a rule, then only Fidonet tags are allowed? a. If other tags are allowed, Fidonet tags take priority? 1. If a tag is listed from an "Othernet", Fidonet could list the FIDONEWS 18-40 Page 3 1 Oct 2001 same tag and "bump" the "Othernet" tag off the Elist? Just some thoughts. Regards, Frank ----------------------------------------------------------------- Echolist, And How It's Done in Zone 2 Region 24 By Dennis Alexis Valin Dittrich As Frank Vest wrote his thoughts about the Zone 1 elist and because there is some dispute about its sense and use I felt the urge to comment on his article by explaining how we in Region 24 of Zone 2 coordinate our echomail conferences. First of all, there is some kind of elist. And, there is a collection of nodes who act as regional backbone. These nodes are obliged to carry all echomail conferences listed in our 'elist'. Most of these nodes exchange mail nearly instantaneously using binkd, i.e. fido over IP. But this is not what I want to write about. How is an echomail conference listed in the Region 24 elist? The Grandfather mechanism. Per definition all backbone conferences are listed in the Region 24 elist. In order to be a backbone conference there has to be a rules file for this echo conference sent to the REC which means most times that there is a moderator, too. Some times the participants of a conference voted against moderatorship thus there are unmoderated conferences on the backbone as well. In the corresponding rules file the status unmoderated is then recorded. The REC protects these conferences from hijacking. Only a majority vote of the participants can install a new moderator and thus change the status of this conference. The New Born mechanism. Even now in times of declining participation in fidonet there is some times need for a new conference. There are essentially two ways to get a new conference into the elist. Get it distributed by your own and as soon as it has traffic and is available in a larger area, i.e. several nets, it is listed in the elist. For infomation purposes you can ask the REC to list this conference in a list for 'additional echo conferences which are available in the region but not neccessarily on the backbone'. The second way to get your conference into the region elist and thus onto the backbone is to just find some nodes (or even only points) who want this new conference. If there are at least 6 nodes from at least 3 different nets your conference gets listed in the region elist and thus immediately on the backbone. What purpose does the region echo conference list have? The Region 24 echo conference list acts as centrally coordinated forward list for the whole region. If a conference is listed in this list you can be sure to get it at your local uplink. Second, there is an indicator for the read/write permission showing whether there are restrictions or not. Third, name and AKA of the moderator or the status unmoderated are recorded. Forth, there will be (at least some) FIDONEWS 18-40 Page 4 1 Oct 2001 traffic since the REC and the backbone coordinator monitor the traffic and drop conferences from the region elist if they lack traffic for a specific amount of time. Thus, you always know what topics are covered by existing, active conferences in our region. When and how is a conferences droped from the region elist? If a conference lacks traffic for more than 40 days the moderator will be notified that her conference is soon due for deletion. This fact will be announced in a special conference as well. Thus, everyone can veto the deletion process. Either (s)he just writes a message in the conference and thus produces traffic or asks for special protection because this conference is known for sporadic traffic due to some seasonal effects. Up to now this special treatment was always granted if asked for. If a conference lacks traffic for more than 70 days it will be droped from the region elist and listed in the region 'kill list' instead. Conferences listed in this kill list are automatically deleted from all backbone systems. The abovementioned lists are weekly generated by the REC using a perl script, the rules file archive, the traffic data base which consists of the latest traffic statistics of all backbone nodes and some control files to cover special cases. These lists are then hatched to a region wide distributed file echo. Changes in these lists are announced to the abovementioned special echo conference. As a last remark, the world wide backbone (WWB) forward list for region 24 is derived from the region elist and there are several forward lists from other regions of Zone 2, too. Michiel, there are elists in Zone 2... ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 18-40 Page 5 1 Oct 2001 ================================================================= COMIX IN ASCII ================================================================= Cows (__) (__) ^^ (oo) (--) ^^^^ /-------\/ /-\/-\ ^^^^^ / | || /| |\ ^^^^^ * ||----|| ^ | | ^ ^^^^^^^^ ====^^====^^==== | | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^/ /----\ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ / \ \ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^ * ^ Cow Hanging Ten at Malibu Cow sunning at Fort Lauderdale (What a bod, huh guys?) )\ (__) / \ (oo) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Cow swimming at Amityville (Where Jaws was filmed, for those less educated) ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 18-40 Page 6 1 Oct 2001 ================================================================= CLEAN HUMOR & JOKES ================================================================= Submitted by wdbonner@pacbell.net Dividing the Nuts Two boy scouts went on a nature hike in the hills picking hickory nuts. Along the way, they filled their small pails and then started to fill their pockets and shirts. When they could hold no more nuts, they started down the country road until they came across a cemetery. The boys decided that would be a good place to stop and rest and divide out the nuts. The two boys sat in the shade of a large oak tree and unloaded their pockets and buckets by dumping all of the nuts in a large pile. In the process, two of them rolled away and rested near the road. The boys then proceeded to divide out the nuts. "One for you. One for me. One for you. One for me." As they were doing this, another boy was passing by and happened to hear them. He looked into the cemetery, but could not see the boys, because they were obscured by the tree. He hesitated a moment and then ran back to town. "Father! Father!" he yelled as he entered his house. "The cemetery. Come quick!" "What's the matter?" his father asked. "No time to explain," the boy frantically panted. "Follow me!" The boy and his father ran up the country road and stopped when they reached the cemetery. They stopped at the side of the road and all fell silent for a few moments. Then the father asked his son what was wrong. "Do you hear that?" he whispered. Both people listened intently and heard the Scouts. "One for me. One for you. One for me......" The boy then blurted out, "The devil and the Lord are dividing the souls!" The father was skeptical but silent -- until a few moments later as the Scouts completed dividing out the nuts and one Scout said to the other, "Now, as soon as we get those two nuts down by the road, we'll have them all..." :^) ----------------------------------------------------------------- Some More Church Humor FIDONEWS 18-40 Page 7 1 Oct 2001 A little boy was overheard praying: "Lord, if you can't make me a better boy, don't worry about it. I'm having a real good time like I am." ~~~~~~~~~~ A Sunday school teacher asked her little children, as they were on the way to church service, "And why is it necessary to be quiet in church?" One bright little girl replied, "Because people are sleeping." ~~~~~~~~~~ The preacher was wired for sound with a lapel microphone, and as he preached, he moved briskly about he moved to one side, getting wound up in the cord and nearly tripping before jerking it again. After several circles and jerks, a little girl in the third pew leaned toward her mother and whispered, "If he gets loose, will he hurt us?" ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 18-40 Page 8 1 Oct 2001 ================================================================= OTHER STUFF ================================================================= This week's Calandar Day Holiday 1 Armed Forces Day in Korea, South Cyprus Independence Day in Cyprus Independence Day in Nigeria Independence Day/Tuvalu Day in Tuvalu National Day in China National Day in Nigeria Regency Exchange in San Marino 2 Anniversary of Guinean Independence/Independence Day in Guinea Mahatma Gandhi's Birthday in India Republic Day in Guinea 3 Francisco Morazan's Birthday/Morazan Day in Honduras National Foundation Day in Korea, South 4 Independence Day in Lesotho 5 Constitution Day in Vanuatu Republic Day/Anniversary of Proclamation of the Republic in Portugal 6 Armed Forces Day in Egypt Labor Day in Australia United Nations Day in Barbados 7 Day of Goodwill in Namibia Merchant Holiday in Antigua and Barbuda ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 18-40 Page 9 1 Oct 2001 ================================================================= FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING ================================================================= *Fidonet/BBS Software Listing's* -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- BBS Software -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- BBBS Home Page b@bbbs.net http://www.bbbs.net/ ELEBBS- The Elevator Software Productions Web Page elebbs@elebbs.com http://www.elebbs.com/ Hermes II Project (Mac) info@HermesII.org http://www.hermesii.org/ Maximus BBS Support Page (Non Official) sales@lainus.com http://www.vector11.com/maximus/ Mystic BBS http://www.mysticbbs.com/mystic/ Nexus Bulletin Board System groberts@nexusbbs.net http://www.nexusbbs.net/ Proboard Telegrafix Communications Inc. info@telegrafix.com 540-678-4050 http://www.telegrafix.com RemoteAccess Central Bruce Morse bfmorse@rapro.com http://www.rapro.com/ Searchlight Telegrafix Communications Inc. info@telegrafix.com 540-678-4050 http://www.telegrafix.com Spitfire BBS Buffalo Creek Software MDWoltz@AOL.COM http://www.angelfire.com/ia/buffalo/index.html Synchronet BBS sysop@vert.synchro.net FIDONEWS 18-40 Page 10 1 Oct 2001 http://www.synchro.net Telegard BBS support@telegard.net http://www.telegard.net/ Wildcat Interactive Net Server (BBS) Santronics Inc. sales@santronics.com (305)248-3204 http://www.santronics.com -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Door Software -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bentstone Capabilities Group info@stonebenders.com http://www.srupc.com/mall Jibben Software scott@jibben.com http://www.jibbensoftware.com/ JNS Software Door Games Rusty Johnson rustyjohnson57@hotmail.com 304-733-0113 http://www.geocities.com/jnssoftware/ PC Pursuits brucep@pop.kis.net (301)240-6653 http://www.pcpursuits.com/products.htm S and T Software Mark Bappe mark.bappe@bozax.iainc.net (770)788-6843 http://bozax.iainc.net/public/ Shinning Star BBS Doors nannette@shiningstar.net http://www.shiningstar.net/bbsdoors/ Sunrise Door Software Al Lawerence al@sunrisedoors.com (404)256-9518 http://www.sunrisedoors.com/ The Brainex System info@brainex.com http://www.brainex.com/brainex_system/ Trade Wars Door Game jpritch@eisonline.com FIDONEWS 18-40 Page 11 1 Oct 2001 http://www.eisonline.com/tradewars/ 1:299/110 Vagabond Software Bryan Turner vagabond@darktech.org http://vagabond.virtualave.net/ 1:124/7013 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Mail Tossers -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- FMail Support wijnstra@fmail.nl.eu.org http://fmail.nl.eu.org/ 2:280/1076 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Mailer Software -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- FrontDoor, FrontDoor APX, Mailer/Point Software Definite Solutions sales@defsol.se http://www.defsol.se/ BinkleyTerm XE Frontend Mailer Software http://btxe.sourceforge.net/ Plantinum Express for Wildcat Santronics Inc. sales@santronics.com (305)248-3204 http://www.santronics.com -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Fidonet via Internet Software -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Argus RITLABS argus@ritlabs.com 373-2-246889 http://www.ritlabs.com/argus/ 2:469/84 BinkD maloff@corbina.net http://2f.ru/binkd/ Fidogate Martin_Junius@m-j-s.net http://www.fidogate.org/ Fidonet to Internet Mailer Bo Bendtsen sales@terminate.com FIDONEWS 18-40 Page 12 1 Oct 2001 http://www.terminate.com/fido2int.htm GiGo Software http://www.gigo.com/ Internet Rex cruden@cs.ualberta.ca http://plaza.v-wave.com/InternetRex/ Tmail (Russian /w English DL) http://www.tmail.spb.ru/index-19.htm TransX Multiboard Communications Inc. support@multiboard.com http://www.multiboard.com/software/transx.html 1:2401/305 TransNet transnet@ressl.com.ar http://www.ressl.com.ar/transnet/ Watergate ramon@sbbs.se http://www2.sbbs.se/hp/ramon/ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Point Software -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Definite Solutions FrontDoor APX http://www.defsol.se/ JetSys - Home of JetMail, JetStat and other Atari Fidonet utilities http://www.jetsys.de/ APoint http://www.apoint.websale.net/index.htm (Author) http://www.apoint-mail.de (Co-Author) CrossPoint ("Original" version) http://www.crosspoint.de http://www.apoint-mail.de CrossPoint (OpenXP Projekt) http://www.openxp.com (English) http://www.openxp.de (German) CrossPoint (XP2 Team) http://www.xp2.de WinPoint95 http://www.schenksmir.de/wp/english The OpenXP CrossPoint Projekt http://www.happyarts.de/xp FIDONEWS 18-40 Page 13 1 Oct 2001 Terminate Terminal http://www.terminate.com PPoint-FTS compatible E-Mail System http://www.alcuf.ca/ppoint.htm -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Other Software, Utillities and such -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- F-Prot Anti-Virus Home Page http://www.complex.is/cgi-bin/home_pager BGFAX Home Page http://blkbox.com/~bgfax/ SIO, Vmodem for OS/2 http://www.gwinn.com NetModem for Windows http://www.allensoftware.com Com/IP Region 11: http://www.vector11.com/region11/ Net 2410: http://www.vector11.com/net2410/ Region 13: http://www.ispaceonline.org/region13/ Net 109: http://www.thelitterbox.net/fido/net109/ Net 261: http://www.baltimorepress.com/~net261/ Net 275: http://www.ispaceonline.org/net275/ Net 267: http://www.angelfire.com/ny4/net267/ Net 275: http://www.ispaceonline.org/net275/ Region 14: http://www.ouijabrd.com/region14 Net 282: http://www.rxn.com/~net282/ Region 15: Region 16: Region 17: http://www.region17.net Net 140: http://www.nwstar.com/~net140 Region 18: http://techshop.pdn.net/fido/ FIDONEWS 18-40 Page 16 1 Oct 2001 Region 19: http://bise.tzo.com/r19 Net 124: http://www.DallasInet.com/net124/ http://texoma.net/~flv Net 393: http://www.chatter.com/~wb/ Zone 2: http://www.z2.fidonet.org Region 20: http://www.fidonet.pp.se (in Swedish) Region 23: http://www.fido.dk (in Danish) Region 24: http://www.swb.de/personal/flop/gatebau.html (German) http://www.was-ist-fido.de/ Fido-IP: http://home.nrh.de/fido/ (English/German) Region 25: Region 26: http://www.nemesis.ie REC 26: http://www.nrgsys.com/orb Region 27: http://telematique.org/ft/r27.htm Region 29: http://www.rtfm.be/fidonet/ (French) http://Welcome.to/skynetbbs/ Region 34: http://www.pobox.com/cnb/r34.htm (Spanish) REC34: http://www.fidospain.org Region 36: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/7207/ Region 38: http://public.st.carnet.hr/~blagi/bbs/adriam.html Region 41: http://www.fidonet.gr (Greek/English) Region 42: http://www.fido.cz Net422: http://www.fido.sk (Slovak/English) Region 50: http://www.fido7.com/ (Russian) Net 5010: http://fido.tu-chel.ac.ru/ (Russian) Net 5015: http://www.fido.nnov.ru/ (Russian) Net 5028: HTTP://5028.nordnet.ru/ Net 5030: http://kenga.ru/fido/ (Russian & English) ?? Net 5049: http://www.n5049.z2.fidonet.org (English/Russian) Net 5074: http://www.n5074.z2.fidonet.net ?? Net 5085: http://www.fidonet.uz/ (Russian) Zone 3: http://www.z3.fidonet.org Zone 4: Region 80: http://fidobrasil.8m.com (Portuguese) Region 90: Net 904: http://members.tripod.com/~net904 (Spanish) Zone 5: http://www.eastcape.co.za/fidonet/ Zone 6: http://www.z6.fidonet.org Region 65: http://r65.yeah.net http://www.cfido.com (Chinese) Fidonet Via Internet Hubs a @ preceding an individual's name implies a virtual email address. The email is translated as follows firstname.lastname@osirusoft.com will automatically route to the FIDONEWS 18-40 Page 17 1 Oct 2001 appropriate individual's email. Anyone in this list will also receive routed notice of this feature. v-email flag firstname.lastname@osirusoft.com | email address or Node# | Operator | Facilities (*) | Speed,| Basic Rate | | |latency| -----------+-------------------+----------------+-------+------------ Zone 1 | | | | 10/3 @ Brenda Donovan | FTP,UUE,BinkP | 384K,30| n/c 10/345 @ Todd Cochrane | FTP,BinkP,VMOT | T1,! | n/c 18/500 @ Ross Cassell | FTP, BinkP |128K+,!| n/c 18/600 | Jerry Gause | FTP BinkP | ??? | n/c 103/5 @ Mark Luetger | BinkP | CABLE | n/c 103/301 @ Joe Jared | BinkP,FTP,NFS | 384k,!| n/c 103/401 @ Warren Bonner | BinkP | aDSL,!| n/c 105/8 @ Russ Johnson | FTP,BinkP,VMoT | 384k | n/c 105/72 @ Larry James | FTP, BinkP | aDSL | $50/yr 106/1 @ Steve Loupe | BinkP, FTP | 128k | ??? 106/2000 | Bob Juge | BinkP VMoT FTP TX| ??? | n/c 106/6018 | Lawrence Garvin | FTP, VMoT | aDSL,60| n/c 107/453 @ Jeffrey Estevez| FTP,BinkP,VMoT,UUE| 56k,60| $10 mo. 1:134/11 @ Michael Grant | FTP, BinkP, VMoT UUE, IFCICO,TransX aDSL, 60 | n/c 138/146 | Marc Blakely | BinkP,FTP | ??? | n/c 140/1 @ Bob Seaborn | FTP,BinkP | T3,30 | $5/$16 142/906 | Chris Griffin | BinkP | ??? | n/c 150/220 | Dave Nemeth | UUE | ??? | n/c 153/7715 | Dallas Hinton | BinkD, FTP | CABLE | ??? 167/133 | Stephen Monteith | BinkP | 128k+ | n/c 167/166 | Jesse Dooling | POP? UUE TX FTP| ??? | n/c 218/109 @ Matt Munson | BinkP,UUE,TX | 33.6k | n/c 220/10 | groberts@nexusbbs.net |BinkP,FTP,UUE|1.5M+ | n/c 229/1 | Phil Simpson | BinkP UUE FTP | ??? | n/c 229/2000 | Robert Couture |BinkP FTP UUE TX| ??? | 229/622 | Dave Hamilton | BinkP | ??? | n/c 249/116 | Carl Austin Bennett | FTP, UUE |ADSL,60 | n/c 250/98 | Darin McBride | BinkP FTP TX | ??? | n/c 250/99 | Brent McLaren | FTP BinkP | ??? | n/c 250/102 | Darin McBride | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c 267/169 | Philip Lozier | FTP TX | ??? | n/c 261/1380 | Joe Davis | UUE TX | ??? | n/c 280/169 | Brian Greenstreet | FTP | 33.6 | $2mo. 297/11 | Michael McCabe | TX | ??? | n/c 323/120 | Craig Healy | VMoT FTP | ??? | n/c 342/3 @ Richard Dodsworth | BinkP,FTP | 128K+ | n/c 360/5 | Bennie Hutto | FTP VMoT | aDSL | n/c 395/670 | Arthur Stark | BinkD,FTP | CABLE | n/c 379/1 @ Dale Ross | FTP, BinkP,UUE | 256K+,! n/c 379/1200 | Chris Cranford | BinkP FTP TX | ??? | n/c 393/9005 | Steve Quarrella |BinkP TX UUE VMoT| ??? | n/c 395/670 | Arthur Stark | BinkP VMoT FTP | ??? | n/c 396/45 | Marc Lewis | UUE | 33.6 | $26/yr 396/48 | Ben Ritchey | UUE:BFDS? | 33.6k | n/c 2215/300 | Dennis Haddox | UUE,TX | CABLE | n/c 2320/38 | Janis Kracht | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c FIDONEWS 18-40 Page 18 1 Oct 2001 2410/400 | Gary Gilmore | FTP BinkP | 384K,60| n/c 2410/213 | Kevin Bentz | FTP, BinkP, UUE| Cable | n/c 2604/104 @ Jim Mclaughlin | FTP,VMoT,UUE | 33.6 | $1mo 2624/306 | David Calafrancesco | VMoT | 33.6 | n/c 3613/1275 | @ jyates@bsdi.ldl.net | UUE,FTP | 28.8 | n/c 3407/4 | Robert Todd |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c 3632/84 | Robert Todd |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c 3651/9 @ Jerry Gause | FTP,VMoT | 33.6 | $3/$6 3830/5 | Jeff Schrunk |BinkP FTP TX UUE| ??? | n/c -------------------------------------------------------------- Zone 2 | 20/11 | Henrik Lindhe | BinkP | ??? | n/c 22/222 | Kim Heino | BinkP | ??? | n/c 28/1 | Lody Caenen | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c 31/1 | Gabriel Plutzar | BinkP | T1+ | n/c 37/37 | Gabor Z. Papp | BinkP | ??? | n/c 47/999 | Andrej Kirejev | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 201/329 | Mats Wallin | VMoT TX | ??? | n/c 201/505 | Goran Eriksson | BinkP | ??? | n/c 203/600 | Mikael Karlsson | UUE | 64k | n/c 211/37 | Torbjorn Mohn | BN IFCICO | ??? | n/c 221/360 @ Tommi Koivula | BinkP,UUE | ??? | n/c 236/205 @ Michael Kaaber | BinkP | ??? | n/c 240/6298 | Steve Tell | BinkP UUE | ??? | n/c 246/2098 | Volker Imre | BinkP | ??? | n/c 252/110 | David Rance | UUE | ??? | n/c 255/90 | Simon Avery | UUE | ??? | n/c 263/950 | Sean Rima | TX UUE | ??? | n/c 280/1027 | Lukas de Groen | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c 280/1601 @ Jeroen VanDeLeur | FTP,UUE | 64k | n/c 280/4312 | Jos Huijnen | BinkP ifcico UUE TX| ??? | n/c 280/5003 | Kees van Eeten | BinkP ifcico | ??? | n/c 292/620 | Eddy Missoul | VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 64k | n/c 292/624 | Steven Leeman | UUE | 64k | n/c 292/854 | Ward Dossche | BinkP UUE TX | ??? | n/c 292/907 | Bart Verhaeghe | BinkP,VMoT,UUE | 64K | n/c 292/2003 | Eric Vaneberck | BinkP | 768k | n/c 301/1 | Peter Witschi | BinkP | 768k | n/c 332/807 | Roberto Mascolo | BinkP | ??? | n/c 333/0 | M Gianformaggio | BinkP | ??? | n/c 335/534 @ Mario Mure | BinkP,VMot,UUE | 64k | n/c 335/610 | Gino Lucrezi | UUE | 33.6 | n/c 341/14 | Rafael Suarez | BinkP VMoT | ??? | n/c 344/201 | Julio Garcia | BinkP | ??? | n/c 346/3 @ Carlos Navarro | UUE | ??? | n/c 382/100 | Sinisa Burina | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 400/555 | Ofir Michaeli | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 400/557 | Marius Kaizerman | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 400/558 | Vlad Hrusca | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 406/555 | Ofir Michaeli & | BinkP | ??? | n/c 406/555 | Marius Kaizerman | BinkP | ??? | n/c 423/81 | Milos Bajer | BinkP | ??? | n/c 461/256 | Andrew Rutkas | BinkP | ??? | n/c 461/640 | Alex Semenyaka |BinkP ifcico UUE| ??? | n/c 465/204 | Va Milushnikov | BinkP | 33.6k | n/c 469/84 | Max Masyutin | VMoT | 256k | n/c FIDONEWS 18-40 Page 19 1 Oct 2001 469/128 | Oleg Vasenyoff | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 480/112 | Adam Sarapata| FTP, VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 128k | n/c 550/4077 | Serguei Trouchelle| UUE | ----- | n/c 2410/201 | Karsten Ebeling | BinkP UUE | ??? | n/c 2411/413 @ Dennis Dittrich | UUE,BinkP | 64k | n/c 2432/200 | Sven Dueker | BinkP TX UUE | ??? | n/c 2446/301 @ Lothar Behet | BinkP,VMoT,UUE,FTP | 64K | n/c 2474/275 | Christian Emig | UUE | 64k | unkn 2487/3000 | Steffen Gross | BinkP | ??? | n/c 3830/10 | Matt Bedynek | FTP, BinkP | 100Mb | n/c 5002/5002 | Victor Belyakov | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5014/4 | Alex Bagmanov | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 5020/52 | Peter Didenko | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5020/54 | Serge Wizgounoff | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 5020/69 | B Chernivetsky | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5020/238 | Sergey Gubanov | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5030/115 | Andrey Podkolzin | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5030/1251 | K Stepanekov | UUE | ??? | n/c 5100/8 | Egons Bush | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5020/1159 | Gennady Kudryashoff | UUE | 33.6 | n/c 5049/12 | Amir Shabashvili | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5054/3 | Andrew Popov | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5080/80 | Eugene Zorin | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 5083/21 | Alexander Uskov | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 5090/2 | Andrew Titov | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5100/8 | Egons Bush | BinkP | ??? | n/c -------------------------------------------------------------- Zone 3 633/260 @ Malcolm Miles | FTP,BinkP | 64K | n/c 640/954 | Rick Van Ruth | FTP,VMot,UUE,BinkP| 56K| n/c 712/311 | Bob James | TX | ??? | n/c 774/605 @ Barry Blackford|BinkP,VMoT:10023,ifcico,FTP |33.6| n/c -------------------------------------------------------------- Zone 4 801/161 @ Renato Zambon | UUE | 33.6 |n/c 902/18 | Javier Tejedor | UUE | 33,6 | n/c 905/100 | Fabian Gervan | VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 128k | n/c -------------------------------------------------------------- Zone 6 65/3000 | Lawrence Fan | UUE | 33600 | free 653/1009 | Maorong Chen | UUE | ??? | free 654/0 | Bin Li | UUE,BinkP | 33600 | free 654/1501 | Lawrence Fan | UUE,BinkP | 28800 | free -- * FTP = Internet File Transfer Protocol * VMoT = Virtual Mailer over Telnet (various) * UUE = uuencode<->email type transfers * BinkP = front end mailer for TCPIP networks * TX = TransX * NFS = Linux Networking * ifcico = ifcico-compatible virtual mailer ---------------------------------------------- Fidonet oriented news servers news.osirusoft.com FIDONEWS 18-40 Page 20 1 Oct 2001 news.tardis.net Fidonet oriented chat rooms. room #fidonet 5PM (PDT 11AM GMT) Sundays irc.osirusoft.com (Peers wanted) ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 18-40 Page 21 1 Oct 2001 ================================================================= FIDONEWS INFORMATION ================================================================= How to Submit an Article If you wish to submit an article for inclusion in the Fidonews, here are the -=_guidelines_=-: No more than 70 characters per line. 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Administrative overhead = 1333 ( 11.97 %) PRIVATE NODES overhead = 849 ( 7.63 %) Baud Rate Summary (or, BPS, for the die-hard technocrats): 9600 = 9554 ( 85.82 %) (HST's = 206 or 2.16 % of the 9600 baud modems.) (CSP's = 2 or 0.02 % of the 9600 baud modems.) (PEP's = 16 or 0.17 % " " " " ) (MAX's = 0 or 0.00 % " " " " ) (HAY's = 3 or 0.03 % " " " " ) (V32's = 5407 or 56.59 % " " " " ) (V32B's = 680 or 7.12 % " " " " ) (V42's = 5130 or 53.69 % " " " " ) (V42B's = 732 or 7.66 % " " " " ) 2400 = 114 ( 1.02 %) 1200 = 8 ( 0.07 %) 300 = 494 ( 4.44 %) ---------------------------------------------------------- F_Req Flag Applicable Software Number of Systems ---------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 18-40 Page 24 1 Oct 2001 XA Frontdoor <1.99b 4350 Frontdoor 2.02+ Dutchie 2.90c Binkleyterm >2.1 D'Bridge <1.3 TIMS -------------------------------------- XB Binkleyterm 2.0 11 Dutchie 2.90b -------------------------------------- XC Opus 1.1 12 -------------------------------------- XP Seadog 7 -------------------------------------- XR Opus 1.03 78 -------------------------------------- XW Fido >12M 416 Tabby -------------------------------------- XX D'Bridge 1.30 4722 Frontdoor 1.99b,2.01 -------------------------------------- CrashMail capable = 4035 ( 36.25 %) MailOnly Nodes = 5739 ( 51.55 %) Listed-Only Nodes = 842 ( 7.56 %) -----------------------------------------------------------------