The F I D O N E W S Volume 18, Number 41 08 Oct 2001 +--------------------------+-----------------------------------------+ | |The newsletter of the | | Fido, Fidonet and dog-with-diskette are | | | FidoNet community. | | US Registered Trademarks of Tom Jennings| | | | | San Francisco, California, USA | | | ____________| | | | |ARooOOo! / __ | Crash Netmail Articles To: | | | / /__\ | Editor@1:1/23 (1-972-562-8064) | | | WOOF! ( /|Oo \ | Frank Vest@1:124/6308 | | \_______\(_| /_) |_ or E-Mail To: | | \|/ __@__ \ // flv@texoma.net | | _o_o_ | | \ // | | V | (*) | \ //| Editor: Frank Vest | | |__U__| / \// | Deputy-Editor: Lawrence Garvin | | _//|| _\ / | | | /~~~~~~~\ (_/(_|(____/ | Newspapers should have no friends. | |(_~Virus~_) (jm) | -- JOSEPH PULITZER | +--------------------------+-----------------------------------------+ Copyright 2001 by Frank L. Vest, Editor for Fidonews Globally. Table of Contents 1. FOOD FOR THOUGHT ......................................... 1 2. GENERAL ARTICLES ......................................... 2 An Introduction to the Pan American Mail System .......... 2 Pan American Backbone F.A.Q.'s ........................... 3 3. GUEST EDITORIAL .......................................... 5 FIDONET of MANY NATIONS .................................. 5 4. HUMOR IN A FIDO VEIN ..................................... 9 This Week's Virus Warning! ............................... 9 5. COMIX IN ASCII ........................................... 11 Famous Cows .............................................. 11 6. CLEAN HUMOR & JOKES ...................................... 12 Joke 1 ................................................... 12 Joke 2 ................................................... 12 The First Pancake ........................................ 12 7. OTHER STUFF .............................................. 13 This week's Calendar ..................................... 13 8. FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING ................................. 14 Fidonet/BBS Software Listing's* .......................... 14 9. FIDONEWS INFORMATION ..................................... 20 How to Submit an Article ................................. 20 Fidonet-related sites .................................... 21 Credits, Legal Infomation, Availability .................. 26 Nodelist Stats ........................................... 27 FIDONEWS 18-41 Page 1 8 Oct 2001 ================================================================= FOOD FOR THOUGHT ================================================================= Keep your eyes wide open before marriage, half shut afterwards. --Benjamin Franklin ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 18-41 Page 2 8 Oct 2001 ================================================================= GENERAL ARTICLES ================================================================= An Introduction to the Pan American Mail System *********************************************** From The Pan American Backbone Last week in the Fidonews, the editor wrote: "Zone1 has two echomail distributors. The Z1B (Zone 1 Backbone) and the NAB (North American Backbone)". We thought it important to bring to the editor's attention that in fact, there are *three* "backbone" distributors in Zone 1. There are also other echomail distribution systems based in Zone 1, such as TFPDist, and Planet Connect. This is especially something that should interest the editor of Fidonews, as he himself in part provided some of the impetus to create this third backbone distribution system. A while back Frank, you challenged the members of Fidonet to come up with a different mail distribution system. Some of us heard you, and acted on your challenge. The result is the Pan American Mail System. Why another distro system? We were all independant hubs, not aligned with the NAB nor the Z1B, and we all shared the common view that the constant quarrels between the Z1B and the NAB were proving to be a detriment to mail moving in general in Fidonet. We felt that some of the hubs in those distribution systems were allowing politics and not the needs of their downlinks to decide on how they moved the mail. There were things that all of us did not like about the Z1B as well as the NAB, and we felt that together we can find a better way to serve our downlinks, by removing ourselves from the political debate and doing things differently than the NAB and Z1B have traditionally done things. An example of this is our "*.NA" type files. We actually produce *two* of these; one bearing the tag names of all echos that have shown recent posting activity (BACKBONE.PA), and a second that bears the tag names of echos which have been inactive for quite some time, or have only had robot postings for quite some time (BACKBONE.PA0). We carry all echos in both lists, but feel that this provides an easy way for our downlinks to see which echos they can expect to still be active. What follows is a FAQ file that is regularly posted in the PAN_AM_BACKBONE echo, a publically accessible echo provided for anyone participating in Fidonet to contact the Pan Am hubs for the purpose of discussing any Pan Am Backbone related issues. We welcome any suggestions, ideas for improvements and debates over the pros and cons of mail-moving practices past and present in that echo, provided such debates remain civil. We are open to new ideas, and do not wish to be bound in any way to the practices traditionally followed by the NAB and Z1B mail distribution systems. ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 18-41 Page 3 8 Oct 2001 Pan American Backbone F.A.Q.'s ****************************** From The Pan American Backbone This document seeks to answer questions that Fidonet members may ask about the Pan American Backbone mail distribution system. What is the Pan American Backbone? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The Pan American Backbone is a loose association of Fidonet mail hubs who share a common philosophy towards mail moving. A Pan American mail hub's main concern should be for the needs and wishes of their downlinks. Pan American mail hubs strive to move the mail in the most efficient manner possible, regardless of political or personal differences. Who are the Pan American Backbone Hubs? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ PAB associated hubs are listed in the BACKSTAT.PA file. By agreeing to allow their name and node numbers to be listed there, those hubs indicate their membership in the Pan American Backbone. Does the PAB route Netmail? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ PAB associated hubs agree to route netmail to the best of their abilities for their downlinks, per the wishes of those downlinks. A PAB hub may reserve the right to refuse to route netmail which the hub feels is of an illegal or unethical form, or is sent from an unidentified source. Will the PAB honor moderator feed cuts? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ PAB associated hubs will honor requests for feed cuts from the echo moderator of record, as listed in the Echolist at the time of the request, provided such a request is properly submitted to the PAB. How do the PAB hubs decide on who they link with? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ It is the opinion of PAB hubs that no one knows any hub's system better than the operators of the hubs themselves. To that end, any meshing, linking and routing arrangements are left solely to the discretion and judgements of the individual hubs themselves. Fidonet is a peer-to-peer network, and any two systems may link to each other in any way they wish, provided they agree to the linking, and such linking does not cause problems for others. What echo areas does the Pan American Backbone carry? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The PAB regularly releases two files bearing the tag names of the echos that are carried. The BACKBONE.PA file lists all echos with recent posting activity; a second file called BACKBONE.PA0 lists echos that the PAB does carry, but that have had no activity for at least 30 days. Fidonet echo areas carried by the PAB are based on the listings of echo areas in the Echolist, and upon echos listed in any Zone 1 FIDONEWS 18-41 Page 4 8 Oct 2001 BACKBONE.* file. The PAB uses these databases as guides to create it's own list of echos carried. Provided any echos in these lists are denoted in the Echolist as distributed by Fidonet, and are not listed as "restricted" by the moderator, the PAB will add them to distribution. Restricted or non-echolisted echos, or any echos listed in any other lists may also be moved by the PAB upon request of the moderator to the PAB. How does the PAB decide what echos to drop from distribution? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Echo areas will be dropped when they are removed from the E-list by the moderator, or the moderator makes a request of the PAB to drop their echo(s) from PAB distribution, or if all downlinks of all PAB hubs choose to de-link the echo(s). ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 18-41 Page 5 8 Oct 2001 ================================================================= GUEST EDITORIAL ================================================================= FIDONET of MANY NATIONS wdbonner@pacbell.net Hello fidonetters of the world, Recent disclosures of a world wide network of individuals bent on the destruction of democracy and enslavement of every nation on earth to the eventual rule of it's own code of worship and way of life; prompt me to remind you that Fidonet News is apart of most all of these nations, and must accept it's responsibility to inform it's members. This isn't about politics as practiced in any nation, it is about our freedoms of speech, liberty, and life as we know it today. Fidonet News is a form of free speech. Some countries already disallow BBSes or networking of any kind by individuals. Here's a message that came across my desk that I found to be very interesting reading. I think the author did an excellent job explaining what we're facing militarily. I do take exception to one point that is about our soldiers conducting "search and destroy" throughout the "20" countries, (actual number is much greater than that), where terrorist cells live and work. The author fails to address that this "new war" will be fought not by the military alone, but by every citizen of all countries. Law enforcement throughout the world will have to work "hand in glove" with all citizens. In fact, while our military is deploying to get ready to fight, law enforcement officials have already begun the fight. This war will be fought in the media, banks, non-government organizations and at the diplomatic level, but most importantly by the citizen-- you and me. And if fought well on each level the need for major military battles will be lessened, many lives saved, and success more readily achieved. Ol'wdb ----Original Message----- Subject: A message worth reading.....and repeating..... For your information: An academic advisor at the Air Force Academy wrote the following, which we believe everyone should read. From: Dr. Tony Kern, Lt. Col, USAF (Ret) Recently, I was asked to look at the recent events through the lens of military history, and I have joined the cast of thousands who have written an "open letter to Americans." Dear friends and fellow Americans 14 September 2001 Like everyone else in this great country, I am reeling from last week's attack on our sovereignty. But unlike some, I am not reeling from surprise. As a career soldier and a student and teacher of military history, I have a different perspective and I think you should hear it. This war FIDONEWS 18-41 Page 6 8 Oct 2001 will be won or lost by the American citizens, not diplomats, politicians or soldiers. Let me briefly explain. In spite of what the media, and even our own government is telling us, this act was not committed by a group of mentally deranged fanatics. To dismiss them as such would be among the gravest of mistakes. This attack was committed by a ferocious, intelligent and dedicated adversary. Don't take this the wrong way. I don't admire these men and I deplore their tactics, but I respect their capabilities. The many parallels that have been made with the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor are apropos. Not only because it was a brilliant sneak attack against a complacent America, but also because we may well be pulling our new adversaries out of caves 30 years after we think this war is over, just like my father's generation had to do with the formidable Japanese in the years following WW II. These men hate the United States with all of their being, and we must not underestimate the power of their moral commitment. Napoleon, perhaps the world's greatest combination of soldier and statesman, stated "the moral is to the physical, as three is to one." Patton thought the Frenchman underestimated its importance and said moral conviction was five times more important in battle than physical strength. Our enemies are willing-better said anxious -- to give their lives for their cause. How committed are we America? And for how long? In addition to demonstrating great moral conviction, the recent attack demonstrated a mastery of some of the basic fundamentals of warfare taught to most military officers worldwide, namely simplicity, security and surprise. When I first heard rumors that some of these men may have been trained at our own Air War College, it made perfect sense to me. This was not a random act of violence, and we can expect the same sort of military competence to be displayed in the battles to come. This war will escalate, with a good portion of it happening right here in the good ol' U.S. of A. <"Take out the strongest player">. These men will not go easily into the night. They do not fear us. We must not fear them. In spite of our overwhelming conventional strength as the world's only "superpower" (a truly silly term), we are the underdog in this fight. As you listen to the carefully scripted rhetoric designed to prepare us for the march for war, please realize that America is not equipped or seriously trained for the battle ahead. To be certain, our soldiers are much better than the enemy, and we have some excellent "counter-terrorist" organizations, but they are mostly trained for hostage rescues, airfield seizures, or the occasional "body snatch," (which may come in handy). We will be fighting a war of annihilation, because if their early efforts are any indication, our enemy is ready and willing to die to the last man. Eradicating the enemy will be costly and time consuming. They have already deployed their forces in as many as 20 countries, and they are FIDONEWS 18-41 Page 7 8 Oct 2001 likely living the lives of everyday citizens. Simply put, our soldiers will be tasked with a search and destroy mission on multiple foreign landscapes, and the public must be patient and supportive until the strategy and tactics can be worked out. For the most part, our military is still in the process of redefining itself and presided over by men and women who grew up with - and were promoted because they excelled in - Cold War doctrine, strategy and tactics. This will not be linear warfare, there will be no clear "centers of gravity" to strike with high technology weapons. Our vast technological edge will certainly be helpful, but it will not be decisive. Perhaps the perfect metaphor for the coming battle was introduced by the terrorists themselves aboard the hijacked aircraft- this will be a knife fight, and it will be won or lost by the ingenuity and will of CITIZENS and soldiers, not by software or smart bombs. We must also be patient with our military leaders. Unlike Americans who are eager to put this messy time behind us, our adversaries have time on their side, and they will use it. They plan to fight a battle of attrition, hoping to drag the battle out until the American public loses its will to fight. This might be difficult to believe in this euphoric time of flag waving and patriotism, but it is generally acknowledged that America lacks the stomach for a long fight. We need only look as far back as Vietnam, when North Vietnamese General Vo Nguyen Giap (also a military history teacher) defeated the United States of America without ever winning a major tactical battle. American soldiers who marched to war cheered on by flag waving Americans in 1965 were reviled and spat upon less than three years later when they returned. Although we hope that Usama Bin Laden is no Giap, he is certain to understand and employ the concept. We can expect not only large doses of pain like the recent attacks, but also less audacious "sand in the gears" tactics, ranging from livestock infestations to attacks at water supplies and power distribution facilities. These attacks are designed to hit us in our "comfort zone" forcing the average American to "pay more and play less" and eventually eroding our resolve. But it can only work if we let it. It is clear to me that the will of the American citizenry - you and I - is the center of gravity the enemy has targeted. It will be the fulcrum upon which victory or defeat will turn. He believes us to be soft, impatient, and self-centered. He may be right, but if so, we must change. The Prussian general Carl von Clausewitz, (the most often quoted and least read military theorist in history), says that there is a "remarkable trinity of war" that is composed of the (1) will of the people, (2) the political leadership of the government, and (3) the chance and probability that plays out on the field of battle, in that order. Every American citizen was in the crosshairs of last Tuesday's attack, not just those that were unfortunate enough to be in the World Trade Center or Pentagon. The will of the American people will decide this war. If we are to win, it will be because we have what it takes to FIDONEWS 18-41 Page 8 8 Oct 2001 persevere through a few more hits, learn from our! mistakes, improvise, and adapt. If we can do that, we will eventually prevail. Everyone I've talked to In the past few days has shared a common frustration, saying in one form or another "I just wish I could do something!" You are already doing it. Just keep faith in America, and continue to support your President and military, and the outcome is certain. If we fail to do so, the outcome is equally certain. God Bless America Dr. Tony Kern, Lt. Col, USAF (Ret) Former Director of Military History, USAF Academy ***************************************************** APPROVED FOR REDISTRIBUTION - 19 Sep 01 <<< MRGRG - Alabama >>> Thank you for your attention to today's most serious threat to our freedoms as one of many countries under attack. ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 18-41 Page 9 8 Oct 2001 ================================================================= HUMOR IN A FIDO VEIN ================================================================= This Week's Virus Warning! fidonet@powersthatwannabe.or.else This is no joke! It's real!! This has been verified by the "powers that wanna be". A virus is going around Fidonet. The origin of this virus is known to be from all Zones and even "Othernets". That's right! It is true!! This virus infects your Echomail and is very clever. All that is required to activate this virus is to read an Echomail message from someone outside of your Zone, Region or Net. This virus originated when Zones, Regions and Nets wanted control of Fidonet for themselves. The virus is so constructed that it is not visible and can't be read by Nodes or Users from the Zone, Region or Net that it originates from. In this way, the virus can't infect it's own. The most common effect of this virus is to start a "flame war" between Fidonet members. This "flame war" is then escalated by variations of the virus contained in reply messages to others. The reply messages may be read by the Fidonet member(s) that sent the original virus and members of their own Zone, Region or Net. This is a flaw in the virus since it can then infect the members of the originator's Zone, Region or Net and cause "flame wars" within any Zone, Region or Net thereafter. There is a variation of this virus that reconstructs replies to cause those in the originator's Zone, Region or Net to sympathize with the originator and therefore reply with more virus infected message to other Zones, Regions or Nets and propagate the "flame war" to even greater extremes. In rare cases, generally when a Sysop or User actually prints a hard copy of the virus infected message, it can be spread throughout your family. This is especially true if your family is into reading Fidonet messages and participating in Fidonet Echomail. BEWARE! The variations of this virus are too many to list. Your best bet is to isolate yourself from all other Zones, Regions and Nets except for your own. This is recommended by the "powers that wanna be". NEVER read or reply to any message from someone outside your Zone or Region and use care when reading messages from outside your Net. This is serious folks! If you are believing this, I'm sure there are several bridges and some swamp land in many parts of the world for sale _REAL_ cheap. :-)) FIDONEWS 18-41 Page 10 8 Oct 2001 Frank 1:124/6308(.1) ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 18-41 Page 11 8 Oct 2001 ================================================================= COMIX IN ASCII ================================================================= Famous Cows /\ __ / \ || (__) (__) \ / (_||_) SooS (oo) \/ (oo) /------S\/S /-------\/ /S /-------\/ / | || / | || / S / | || * ||----|| * ||----||___/ S * ||----|| ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ This cow belonged Ben Franklin owned Abe Lincoln's to George Washington this cow cow ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 18-41 Page 12 8 Oct 2001 ================================================================= CLEAN HUMOR & JOKES ================================================================= Joke 1 From: Warren Bonner I was on a flight to Hong Kong once. The flight would be seven hours long, so I decided to get some shuteye. I was soon awakened by the stewardess, who asked me if I would like some dinner. I said, "What are my choices?" And she said, "Yes or no." ----------------------------------------------------------------- Joke 2 From: Warren Bonner Worried that his son was spending too much money on dates, a Father asked the boy how much his last date had cost. The son calculated a minute then replied, "Oh, about $15 or so I think." "Well," said the Father, "I'm proud of you for finally coming up with an inexpensive evening." "To be honest Dad," the son went on, "we'd have done more, but that was all the money she had." ----------------------------------------------------------------- The First Pancake A mother was preparing pancakes for her sons, Kevin, 5, and Ryan, 3. The boys began to argue over who would get the first pancake. Their mother saw the opportunity for a moral lesson. "If Jesus were sitting here, He would say 'Let my brother have the first pancake, I can wait.' Kevin turned to his younger brother and said, "Okay Ryan, you be Jesus!" ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 18-41 Page 13 8 Oct 2001 ================================================================= OTHER STUFF ================================================================= This week's Calendar Day Event ------------------------------------------------------------------- 8 Battle of Angamos in Peru Columbus Day in United States Mother's Day in Malawi Thanksgiving in Canada 9 Army Day in Azerbaijan Independence Day in Uganda Independence of Guayaquil in Ecuador Korean Alphabet Day in Korea, South Leif Erikson Day in United States 10 Druger Day in South Africa Fiji Day in Fiji Health and Sports Day in Japan Moi Day in Kenya Oklahoma Historical Day in United States (Oklahoma) 11 Anniversary of the Beginning of the Wars of Independence in Cuba 12 Battle of Sarandi in Uruguay Columbus Day in Argentina Columbus Day in Argentina Columbus Day (Dia de la Raza) in Honduras Columbus Day (traditionally) in United States Columbus Day/Dia de la Raza in Costa Rica Day of Liberation from the French in Laos Dia de la Raza in Colombia Dia de la Raza/Columbus Day in Mexico Dia de la Raza/Columbus Day in Venezuela Dia de la Raza/Discovery of America in Uruguay Discovery Day in Bahamas Independence Day/National Day? in Equatorial Guinea National Day in Spain Our Lady Aparecida Day in Brazil 13 St. Edward's Day in United Kingdom 14 Children's White Sunday in Western Samoa National Day in Yemen Democratic Republic National Day/Revolution Day 1963 in Yemen Arab Republic Petkouden in Bulgaria Svetitskhovloba in Georgia ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 18-41 Page 14 8 Oct 2001 ================================================================= FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING ================================================================= *Fidonet/BBS Software Listing's* -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- BBS Software -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- BBBS Home Page b@bbbs.net http://www.bbbs.net/ ELEBBS- The Elevator Software Productions Web Page elebbs@elebbs.com http://www.elebbs.com/ Hermes II Project (Mac) info@HermesII.org http://www.hermesii.org/ Maximus BBS Support Page (Non Official) sales@lainus.com http://www.vector11.com/maximus/ MBSE BBS Michiel Broek + development team mbroek@users.sourceforge.net http://mbse.sourceforge.net 2:2802/2 Michiel Broek. Mystic BBS http://www.mysticbbs.com/mystic/ Nexus Bulletin Board System groberts@nexusbbs.net http://www.nexusbbs.net/ Proboard Telegrafix Communications Inc. info@telegrafix.com 540-678-4050 http://www.telegrafix.com RemoteAccess Central Bruce Morse bfmorse@rapro.com http://www.rapro.com/ Searchlight Telegrafix Communications Inc. info@telegrafix.com 540-678-4050 http://www.telegrafix.com Spitfire BBS FIDONEWS 18-41 Page 15 8 Oct 2001 Buffalo Creek Software MDWoltz@AOL.COM http://www.angelfire.com/ia/buffalo/index.html Synchronet BBS sysop@vert.synchro.net http://www.synchro.net Telegard BBS support@telegard.net http://www.telegard.net/ Wildcat Interactive Net Server (BBS) Santronics Inc. sales@santronics.com (305)248-3204 http://www.santronics.com -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Door Software -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bentstone Capabilities Group info@stonebenders.com http://www.srupc.com/mall Jibben Software scott@jibben.com http://www.jibbensoftware.com/ JNS Software Door Games Rusty Johnson rustyjohnson57@hotmail.com 304-733-0113 http://www.geocities.com/jnssoftware/ Legend Of The Red Dragon Reborn (L.O.R.D.) http://www.lordlegacy.org/ PC Pursuits brucep@pop.kis.net (301)240-6653 http://www.pcpursuits.com/products.htm S and T Software Mark Bappe mark.bappe@bozax.iainc.net (770)788-6843 http://bozax.iainc.net/public/ Shinning Star BBS Doors nannette@shiningstar.net http://www.shiningstar.net/bbsdoors/ Sunrise Door Software Al Lawerence al@sunrisedoors.com FIDONEWS 18-41 Page 16 8 Oct 2001 (404)256-9518 http://www.sunrisedoors.com/ The Brainex System info@brainex.com http://www.brainex.com/brainex_system/ Trade Wars Door Game jpritch@eisonline.com http://www.eisonline.com/tradewars/ 1:299/110 Vagabond Software Bryan Turner vagabond@darktech.org http://vagabond.virtualave.net/ 1:124/7013 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Mail Tossers -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- FMail Support wijnstra@fmail.nl.eu.org http://fmail.nl.eu.org/ 2:280/1076 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Mailer Software -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- FrontDoor, FrontDoor APX, Mailer/Point Software Definite Solutions sales@defsol.se http://www.defsol.se/ BinkleyTerm XE Frontend Mailer Software http://btxe.sourceforge.net/ Plantinum Express for Wildcat Santronics Inc. sales@santronics.com (305)248-3204 http://www.santronics.com -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Fidonet via Internet Software -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Argus RITLABS argus@ritlabs.com 373-2-246889 http://www.ritlabs.com/argus/ 2:469/84 BinkD maloff@corbina.net FIDONEWS 18-41 Page 17 8 Oct 2001 http://2f.ru/binkd/ Fidogate Martin_Junius@m-j-s.net http://www.fidogate.org/ Fidonet to Internet Mailer Bo Bendtsen sales@terminate.com http://www.terminate.com/fido2int.htm GiGo Software http://www.gigo.com/ Internet Rex cruden@cs.ualberta.ca http://plaza.v-wave.com/InternetRex/ Tmail (Russian /w English DL) http://www.tmail.spb.ru/index-19.htm TransX Multiboard Communications Inc. support@multiboard.com http://www.multiboard.com/software/transx.html 1:2401/305 TransNet transnet@ressl.com.ar http://www.ressl.com.ar/transnet/ Watergate ramon@sbbs.se http://www2.sbbs.se/hp/ramon/ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Point Software -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Definite Solutions FrontDoor APX http://www.defsol.se/ JetSys - Home of JetMail, JetStat and other Atari Fidonet utilities http://www.jetsys.de/ APoint http://www.apoint.websale.net/index.htm (Author) http://www.apoint-mail.de (Co-Author) CrossPoint ("Original" version) http://www.crosspoint.de http://www.apoint-mail.de CrossPoint (OpenXP Projekt) http://www.openxp.com (English) http://www.openxp.de (German) FIDONEWS 18-41 Page 18 8 Oct 2001 CrossPoint (XP2 Team) http://www.xp2.de WinPoint95 http://www.schenksmir.de/wp/english The OpenXP CrossPoint Projekt http://www.happyarts.de/xp Terminate Terminal http://www.terminate.com PPoint-FTS compatible E-Mail System http://www.alcuf.ca/ppoint.htm -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Other Software, Utillities and such -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- F-Prot Anti-Virus Home Page http://www.complex.is/cgi-bin/home_pager BGFAX Home Page http://blkbox.com/~bgfax/ SIO, Vmodem for OS/2 http://www.gwinn.com NetModem for Windows http://www.allensoftware.com Com/IP Region 11: http://www.vector11.com/region11/ FIDONEWS 18-41 Page 22 8 Oct 2001 Net 2410: http://www.vector11.com/net2410/ Region 13: http://www.ispaceonline.org/region13/ Net 109: http://www.thelitterbox.net/fido/net109/ Net 261: http://www.baltimorepress.com/~net261/ Net 275: http://www.ispaceonline.org/net275/ Net 267: http://www.angelfire.com/ny4/net267/ Net 275: http://www.ispaceonline.org/net275/ Region 14: http://www.ouijabrd.com/region14 Net 282: http://www.rxn.com/~net282/ Region 15: Region 16: Region 17: http://www.region17.net Net 140: http://www.nwstar.com/~net140 Region 18: http://techshop.pdn.net/fido/ Region 19: http://bise.tzo.com/r19 Net 124: http://www.DallasInet.com/net124/ http://texoma.net/~flv Net 393: http://www.chatter.com/~wb/ Zone 2: http://www.z2.fidonet.org Region 20: http://www.fidonet.pp.se (in Swedish) Region 23: http://www.fido.dk (in Danish) Region 24: http://www.swb.de/personal/flop/gatebau.html (German) http://www.was-ist-fido.de/ Fido-IP: http://home.nrh.de/fido/ (English/German) Region 25: Region 26: http://www.nemesis.ie REC 26: http://www.nrgsys.com/orb Region 27: http://telematique.org/ft/r27.htm Region 29: http://www.rtfm.be/fidonet/ (French) http://Welcome.to/skynetbbs/ Region 34: http://www.pobox.com/cnb/r34.htm (Spanish) REC34: http://www.fidospain.org Region 36: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/7207/ Region 38: http://public.st.carnet.hr/~blagi/bbs/adriam.html Region 41: http://www.fidonet.gr (Greek/English) Region 42: http://www.fido.cz Net422: http://www.fido.sk (Slovak/English) Region 50: http://www.fido7.com/ (Russian) Net 5010: http://fido.tu-chel.ac.ru/ (Russian) Net 5015: http://www.fido.nnov.ru/ (Russian) Net 5028: HTTP://5028.nordnet.ru/ Net 5030: http://kenga.ru/fido/ (Russian & English) ?? Net 5049: http://www.n5049.z2.fidonet.org (English/Russian) Net 5074: http://www.n5074.z2.fidonet.net ?? Net 5085: http://www.fidonet.uz/ (Russian) Zone 3: http://www.z3.fidonet.org Zone 4: Region 80: http://fidobrasil.8m.com (Portuguese) Region 90: Net 904: http://members.tripod.com/~net904 (Spanish) FIDONEWS 18-41 Page 23 8 Oct 2001 Zone 5: http://www.eastcape.co.za/fidonet/ Zone 6: http://www.z6.fidonet.org Region 65: http://r65.yeah.net http://www.cfido.com (Chinese) Fidonet Via Internet Hubs a @ preceding an individual's name implies a virtual email address. The email is translated as follows firstname.lastname@osirusoft.com will automatically route to the appropriate individual's email. Anyone in this list will also receive routed notice of this feature. v-email flag firstname.lastname@osirusoft.com | email address or Node# | Operator | Facilities (*) | Speed,| Basic Rate | | |latency| -----------+-------------------+----------------+-------+------------ Zone 1 | | | | 10/3 @ Brenda Donovan | FTP,UUE,BinkP | 384K,30| n/c 10/345 @ Todd Cochrane | FTP,BinkP,VMOT | T1,! | n/c 18/500 @ Ross Cassell | FTP, BinkP |128K+,!| n/c 18/600 | Jerry Gause | FTP BinkP | ??? | n/c 103/5 @ Mark Luetger | BinkP | CABLE | n/c 103/301 @ Joe Jared | BinkP,FTP,NFS | 384k,!| n/c 103/401 @ Warren Bonner | BinkP | aDSL,!| n/c 105/8 @ Russ Johnson | FTP,BinkP,VMoT | 384k | n/c 105/72 @ Larry James | FTP, BinkP | aDSL | $50/yr 106/1 @ Steve Loupe | BinkP, FTP | 128k | ??? 106/2000 | Bob Juge | BinkP VMoT FTP TX| ??? | n/c 106/6018 | Lawrence Garvin | FTP, VMoT | aDSL,60| n/c 107/453 @ Jeffrey Estevez| FTP,BinkP,VMoT,UUE| 56k,60| $10 mo. 1:134/11 @ Michael Grant | FTP, BinkP, VMoT UUE, IFCICO,TransX aDSL, 60 | n/c 138/146 | Marc Blakely | BinkP,FTP | ??? | n/c 140/1 @ Bob Seaborn | FTP,BinkP | T3,30 | $5/$16 142/906 | Chris Griffin | BinkP | ??? | n/c 150/220 | Dave Nemeth | UUE | ??? | n/c 153/7715 | Dallas Hinton | BinkD, FTP | CABLE | ??? 167/133 | Stephen Monteith | BinkP | 128k+ | n/c 167/166 | Jesse Dooling | POP? UUE TX FTP| ??? | n/c 218/109 @ Matt Munson | BinkP,UUE,TX | 33.6k | n/c 220/10 | groberts@nexusbbs.net |BinkP,FTP,UUE|1.5M+ | n/c 229/1 | Phil Simpson | BinkP UUE FTP | ??? | n/c 229/2000 | Robert Couture |BinkP FTP UUE TX| ??? | 229/622 | Dave Hamilton | BinkP | ??? | n/c 249/116 | Carl Austin Bennett | FTP, UUE |ADSL,60 | n/c 250/98 | Darin McBride | BinkP FTP TX | ??? | n/c 250/99 | Brent McLaren | FTP BinkP | ??? | n/c 250/102 | Darin McBride | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c 267/169 | Philip Lozier | FTP TX | ??? | n/c FIDONEWS 18-41 Page 24 8 Oct 2001 261/1380 | Joe Davis | UUE TX | ??? | n/c 280/169 | Brian Greenstreet | FTP | 33.6 | $2mo. 297/11 | Michael McCabe | TX | ??? | n/c 323/120 | Craig Healy | VMoT FTP | ??? | n/c 342/3 @ Richard Dodsworth | BinkP,FTP | 128K+ | n/c 360/5 | Bennie Hutto | FTP VMoT | aDSL | n/c 395/670 | Arthur Stark | BinkD,FTP | CABLE | n/c 379/1 @ Dale Ross | FTP, BinkP,UUE | 256K+,! n/c 379/1200 | Chris Cranford | BinkP FTP TX | ??? | n/c 393/9005 | Steve Quarrella |BinkP TX UUE VMoT| ??? | n/c 395/670 | Arthur Stark | BinkP VMoT FTP | ??? | n/c 396/45 | Marc Lewis | UUE | 33.6 | $26/yr 396/48 | Ben Ritchey | UUE:BFDS? | 33.6k | n/c 2215/300 | Dennis Haddox | UUE,TX | CABLE | n/c 2320/38 | Janis Kracht | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c 2410/400 | Gary Gilmore | FTP BinkP | 384K,60| n/c 2410/213 | Kevin Bentz | FTP, BinkP, UUE| Cable | n/c 2604/104 @ Jim Mclaughlin | FTP,VMoT,UUE | 33.6 | $1mo 2624/306 | David Calafrancesco | VMoT | 33.6 | n/c 3613/1275 | @ jyates@bsdi.ldl.net | UUE,FTP | 28.8 | n/c 3407/4 | Robert Todd |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c 3632/84 | Robert Todd |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c 3651/9 @ Jerry Gause | FTP,VMoT | 33.6 | $3/$6 3830/5 | Jeff Schrunk |BinkP FTP TX UUE| ??? | n/c -------------------------------------------------------------- Zone 2 | 20/11 | Henrik Lindhe | BinkP | ??? | n/c 22/222 | Kim Heino | BinkP | ??? | n/c 28/1 | Lody Caenen | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c 31/1 | Gabriel Plutzar | BinkP | T1+ | n/c 37/37 | Gabor Z. Papp | BinkP | ??? | n/c 47/999 | Andrej Kirejev | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 201/329 | Mats Wallin | VMoT TX | ??? | n/c 201/505 | Goran Eriksson | BinkP | ??? | n/c 203/600 | Mikael Karlsson | UUE | 64k | n/c 211/37 | Torbjorn Mohn | BN IFCICO | ??? | n/c 221/360 @ Tommi Koivula | BinkP,UUE | ??? | n/c 236/205 @ Michael Kaaber | BinkP | ??? | n/c 240/6298 | Steve Tell | BinkP UUE | ??? | n/c 246/2098 | Volker Imre | BinkP | ??? | n/c 252/110 | David Rance | UUE | ??? | n/c 255/90 | Simon Avery | UUE | ??? | n/c 263/950 | Sean Rima | TX UUE | ??? | n/c 280/1027 | Lukas de Groen | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c 280/1601 @ Jeroen VanDeLeur | FTP,UUE | 64k | n/c 280/4312 | Jos Huijnen | BinkP ifcico UUE TX| ??? | n/c 280/5003 | Kees van Eeten | BinkP ifcico | ??? | n/c 292/620 | Eddy Missoul | VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 64k | n/c 292/624 | Steven Leeman | UUE | 64k | n/c 292/854 | Ward Dossche | BinkP UUE TX | ??? | n/c 292/907 | Bart Verhaeghe | BinkP,VMoT,UUE | 64K | n/c 292/2003 | Eric Vaneberck | BinkP | 768k | n/c 301/1 | Peter Witschi | BinkP | 768k | n/c 332/807 | Roberto Mascolo | BinkP | ??? | n/c 333/0 | M Gianformaggio | BinkP | ??? | n/c 335/534 @ Mario Mure | BinkP,VMot,UUE | 64k | n/c FIDONEWS 18-41 Page 25 8 Oct 2001 335/610 | Gino Lucrezi | UUE | 33.6 | n/c 341/14 | Rafael Suarez | BinkP VMoT | ??? | n/c 341/51 | Jose.Maria Tejada | VMoT | | 341/66 | Angel Ripoll | VMoT | | 343/168 | Jose Casanova | VMoT | | 344/201 | Julio Garcia | BinkP | ??? | n/c 346/3 @ Carlos Navarro | UUE | ??? | n/c 347/1 | Javi Polo | UUE | | 348/105 | Alejandro Estraviz| BinkP UUE | | 382/100 | Sinisa Burina | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 400/555 | Ofir Michaeli | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 400/557 | Marius Kaizerman | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 400/558 | Vlad Hrusca | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 406/555 | Ofir Michaeli & | BinkP | ??? | n/c 406/555 | Marius Kaizerman | BinkP | ??? | n/c 423/81 | Milos Bajer | BinkP | ??? | n/c 461/256 | Andrew Rutkas | BinkP | ??? | n/c 461/640 | Alex Semenyaka |BinkP ifcico UUE| ??? | n/c 465/204 | Va Milushnikov | BinkP | 33.6k | n/c 469/84 | Max Masyutin | VMoT | 256k | n/c 469/128 | Oleg Vasenyoff | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 480/112 | Adam Sarapata| FTP, VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 128k | n/c 550/4077 | Serguei Trouchelle| UUE | ----- | n/c 2410/201 | Karsten Ebeling | BinkP UUE | ??? | n/c 2411/413 @ Dennis Dittrich | UUE,BinkP | 64k | n/c 2432/200 | Sven Dueker | BinkP TX UUE | ??? | n/c 2446/301 @ Lothar Behet | BinkP,VMoT,UUE,FTP | 64K | n/c 2474/275 | Christian Emig | UUE | 64k | unkn 2487/3000 | Steffen Gross | BinkP | ??? | n/c 3830/10 | Matt Bedynek | FTP, BinkP | 100Mb | n/c 5002/5002 | Victor Belyakov | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5014/4 | Alex Bagmanov | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 5020/52 | Peter Didenko | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5020/54 | Serge Wizgounoff | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 5020/69 | B Chernivetsky | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5020/238 | Sergey Gubanov | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5030/115 | Andrey Podkolzin | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5030/1251 | K Stepanekov | UUE | ??? | n/c 5100/8 | Egons Bush | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5020/1159 | Gennady Kudryashoff | UUE | 33.6 | n/c 5049/12 | Amir Shabashvili | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5054/3 | Andrew Popov | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5080/80 | Eugene Zorin | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 5083/21 | Alexander Uskov | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 5090/2 | Andrew Titov | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5100/8 | Egons Bush | BinkP | ??? | n/c -------------------------------------------------------------- Zone 3 633/260 @ Malcolm Miles | FTP,BinkP | 64K | n/c 640/954 | Rick Van Ruth | FTP,VMot,UUE,BinkP| 56K| n/c 712/311 | Bob James | TX | ??? | n/c 774/605 @ Barry Blackford|BinkP,VMoT:10023,ifcico,FTP |33.6| n/c -------------------------------------------------------------- Zone 4 801/161 @ Renato Zambon | UUE | 33.6 |n/c 902/18 | Javier Tejedor | UUE | 33,6 | n/c FIDONEWS 18-41 Page 26 8 Oct 2001 -------------------------------------------------------------- Zone 6 65/3000 | Lawrence Fan | UUE | 33600 | free 653/1009 | Maorong Chen | UUE | ??? | free 654/0 | Bin Li | UUE,BinkP | 33600 | free 654/1501 | Lawrence Fan | UUE,BinkP | 28800 | free -- * FTP = Internet File Transfer Protocol * VMoT = Virtual Mailer over Telnet (various) * UUE = uuencode<->email type transfers * BinkP = front end mailer for TCPIP networks * TX = TransX * NFS = Linux Networking * ifcico = ifcico-compatible virtual mailer ---------------------------------------------- Fidonet oriented news servers news.osirusoft.com news.tardis.net Fidonet oriented chat rooms. room #fidonet 5PM (PDT 11AM GMT) Sundays irc.osirusoft.com (Peers wanted) ----------------------------------------------------------------- Credits, Legal Infomation, Availability + -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- FIDONEWS STAFF - -- -- -- -- -- -- -- + | | | Editor: Frank L. Vest, 1:1/23, editor@fidonews.org | | Crash mail attached: Editor@1:1/23 | | E-Mail Attach flv@texoma.net | | Deputy Editor: Lawrence Garvin, | | Webmaster: Jim Barchuk, jb@fidonews.org | | Columnist: Joe Jared, 1:103/0, joejared@osirusoft.com | | (Fido Via Internet Hubs column) | | Columnist: Warren Bonner - Ol'WDB's Corner | | Columnist: Jack Yates when in the Gawga mood | + -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- + + -- -- -- -- -- -- -- - EDITORS EMERITI - -- -- -- -- -- -- -- + | | | Tom Jennings, Thom Henderson, Dale Lovell, Vince | | Perriello, Tim Pozar, Sylvia Maxwell, Donald Tees, | | Christopher Baker, Zorch Frezberg, Henk Wolsink, | | Doug Meyers, Warren D. Bonner | | | + -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- + "Fido", "FidoNet" and the dog-with-diskette are U.S. registered trademarks of Tom Jennings, P.O. Box 410923, San Francisco, CA 94141, and are used with permission. FIDONEWS 18-41 Page 27 8 Oct 2001 Fidonews is published weekly by and for the members of Fidonet. Fidonews is Copyright (C) 2001 by Frank L. Vest, though authors retain rights to their contributed articles. Opinions expressed by the authors is strictly their own. Noncommercial duplication and distribution within Fidonet is encouraged. Authors are encouraged to send their articles in ASCII text to: Frank Vest at one of his addresses above. The weekly edition of Fidonews is distributed through the file area FIDONEWS, and is published as echomail in the echo FIDONEWS. These sources are normally available through your Network Coordinator. The current and past issues are also available from the following sources: + -- -- -- -- -- -- - FIDONEWS AVAILABILITY - -- -- -- -- -- -- + | | | Freq FIDONEWS @ 1:140/1 | | ftp://ftp.nwstar.com/fidonet/fidonews/ | | http://www.fidonews.org | | email subscription: majordomo@fidonews.org | | (subject: help body: list) | | ftp mail: ftpmail@fidonews.org (subject: help) | | | + -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- + ----------------------------------------------------------------- Nodelist Stats INPUT NODELIST FILE : NODELIST.278 File has a Date Stamp of : 10/4/2001 File Size (uncompressed) : 1206.59 KBytes. The Input Nodelist file has 11123 Nodes in it and a total of 14204 non-comment entries. The list has 6 Zones listed. 67 Region Coordinators listed. 499 Network Hosts listed. 764 Hubs listed. 372 DOWN Nodes listed. 852 PRIVATE Nodes listed. 521 HOLD Nodes listed. Administrative overhead = 1336 ( 12.01 %) PRIVATE NODES overhead = 852 ( 7.66 %) Baud Rate Summary (or, BPS, for the die-hard technocrats): 9600 = 9544 ( 85.80 %) (HST's = 206 or 2.16 % of the 9600 baud modems.) (CSP's = 2 or 0.02 % of the 9600 baud modems.) (PEP's = 16 or 0.17 % " " " " ) (MAX's = 0 or 0.00 % " " " " ) (HAY's = 3 or 0.03 % " " " " ) (V32's = 5403 or 56.61 % " " " " ) FIDONEWS 18-41 Page 28 8 Oct 2001 (V32B's = 681 or 7.14 % " " " " ) (V42's = 5134 or 53.79 % " " " " ) (V42B's = 734 or 7.69 % " " " " ) 2400 = 114 ( 1.02 %) 1200 = 8 ( 0.07 %) 300 = 495 ( 4.45 %) ---------------------------------------------------------- F_Req Flag Applicable Software Number of Systems ---------------------------------------------------------- XA Frontdoor <1.99b 4348 Frontdoor 2.02+ Dutchie 2.90c Binkleyterm >2.1 D'Bridge <1.3 TIMS -------------------------------------- XB Binkleyterm 2.0 11 Dutchie 2.90b -------------------------------------- XC Opus 1.1 12 -------------------------------------- XP Seadog 7 -------------------------------------- XR Opus 1.03 79 -------------------------------------- XW Fido >12M 417 Tabby -------------------------------------- XX D'Bridge 1.30 4716 Frontdoor 1.99b,2.01 -------------------------------------- CrashMail capable = 4030 ( 36.23 %) MailOnly Nodes = 5735 ( 51.56 %) Listed-Only Nodes = 846 ( 7.61 %) -----------------------------------------------------------------