From: BEATLE
To: CYBERPUNK
Subject: next conv.
Date & Time: 11/30/89 06:46:29
Message Number 600
You can go to a Star Trek convention and find ROBOTECh stuff. Comic
conventions don't happen that often anymore, but there are Trek cons
every year. Sometimes twice a year. If I see anything you might like,
I'll let ya know...
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From: BEATLE
To: SAURON
Subject: BLB
Date & Time: 11/30/89 06:50:28
Message Number 601
Some classics won't come back. You know, some book companies have said
that they couldn't sell books like"The Wizard of Oz" today... They don't
even want to try.
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From: BEATLE
To: DONTHEN
Subject: Movies....
Date & Time: 11/30/89 06:56:37
Message Number 602
All I remember was that I heard Siskel & Ebert complaining that movies
like "Bambi" and "Peter Pan" had the top and bottom cropped off to make
the screen wider, so I assumed that they were TV screen-shaped in the
first place.
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From: BEATLE
To: CYBERPUNK
Subject: your plan
Date & Time: 11/30/89 07:00:13
Message Number 603
Good plan! I'd love to see what the video store thought when the next
person to rent "Batman" says "Hey, they had a lot of clowns, but no
Batman! What gives?"
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From: RUFUS
To: CHIP P. UNICORN
Subject: Randomness
Date & Time: 11/30/89 15:17:51
Message Number 604
I've seen this set around that has all the moves a piece can make
printed on the base of the piece. Talk about real convenient. After I
learn..I dunno..what will I do then....
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From: RUFUS
To: CHIP P. UNICORN
Subject: GoCon
Date & Time: 11/30/89 15:19:00
Message Number 605
Good idea. We could have it at my place, but we can only fit about
8 people in my room.
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From: RUFUS
To: PSYCHE
Subject: GoCon
Date & Time: 11/30/89 15:20:19
Message Number 606
Maybe some day over winter break?? I'm not doing anything, except
batteling to purchase gifts, which is fun when your heavily armed.
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From: RUFUS
To: TURTLE
Subject: Go where?
Date & Time: 11/30/89 15:22:33
Message Number 607
I don't get to play too much. I'd like to play more, but can rarely
find anyone else ( until now ). Wish they had a computer version for
the ole Apple here.
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From: CYBERPUNK
To: KEN OBER
Subject: GoCon
Date & Time: 11/30/89 16:54:45
Message Number 608
stupid.
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From: CYBERPUNK
To: DONTHEN
Subject: Wyvern's Den
Date & Time: 11/30/89 16:55:40
Message Number 609
that's pretty7 rude.
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From: CYBERPUNK
To: SPELLWIND
Subject: Con
Date & Time: 11/30/89 16:58:30
Message Number 610
what's your BBS going to be???
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From: CYBERPUNK
To: BEATLE
Subject: next conv.
Date & Time: 11/30/89 16:59:57
Message Number 611
thanks dude! but i thought that there was usally Star Trek stuff
at Star Trek conventions.... hehehe
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From: SAURON
To: LORELEI
Subject: DOLPHINS
Date & Time: 11/30/89 17:08:52
Message Number 612
1. Some football guy.
2. No.
3. would you settle for a Great Dane?
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From: SAURON
To: TURTLE
Subject: Misogeny
Date & Time: 11/30/89 17:17:43
Message Number 613
Just so you know...I have a daughter whose IQ is 169 (higher than mine
and any remarks I address to (or about) the Fair gender are strictly
in response to the current campaign that is attempting to portray males
as chauvinist neanderthals. Strangely - the rest of you seem content to
sit back and ignore the feminist crap that's being promulgated about one
half of our species. So be it. If you guys are content to remain silent
- I'm not.
....but you already knew that.
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From: SAURON
To: ANGEL
Subject: Misogeny
Date & Time: 11/30/89 17:25:04
Message Number 614
Drat! no one wants to play anymore.
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From: SAURON
To: ANGEL
Subject: diversions
Date & Time: 11/30/89 17:25:57
Message Number 615
Only if they're with younger women.
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From: TURTLE
To: BEATLE
Subject: BLB
Date & Time: 11/30/89 17:31:30
Message Number 616
No, I'm not sure at all. I'm not even sure what it was called, or where
it disappeared to, or much of anything else, for that matter. But I
AM sure I hate IBM...
...hey! There's an idea! Perhaps I should create
a sub-board dedicated exclusively to abusing IBM and Mush-DOS! Yeah!
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From: TURTLE
To: BEATLE
Subject: Witches & Stuff
Date & Time: 11/30/89 17:34:51
Message Number 617
>...some book companies have said that they couldn't sell books like
>"The Wizard of Oz" today...
Of course not. The religious fundamentalists would scream about the
portrayal of witches in the book, child psychologists would cluck their
tongues about the damaging effects of having the main character melt
a witch, parents would complain that Dorothy displays far too much
initiative for her own good and therefore the book is clearly designed
to subvert parental authority, anti-drug crusaders would say that the
book is describing what /must/ be a drug trip, and school boards would
ban it in school libraries because it communicates the wrong lessons
to young minds.
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From: TURTLE
To: RUFUS
Subject: GoCon
Date & Time: 11/30/89 17:39:47
Message Number 618
>...we can only fit about 8 people in my room.
Naaaah, I can fit almost that many people in my Volkswagen Bug; surely
in a room the size of yours we could stuff...oh, 15 or 20 people. If
you take out the bed we could cram even more!
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From: TURTLE
To: SAURON
Subject: Misogeny
Date & Time: 11/30/89 17:41:37
Message Number 619
Hmm. It seems like battling feminist propaganda about males being
Neanderthal thugs by behaving like a Neanderthal thug is using some...
peculiar tactics. I'm sure Andrea Dworkin would approve...
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From: TURTLE
To: ALL
Subject: Wyvern's Den
Date & Time: 11/30/89 18:09:09
Message Number 620
I have been informed that the Den will be up and back on-line in about
two days...so don't despair. The number is 925-1386; 300-1200 baud;
science fiction/fantasy oriented (in case you didn't already know).
Evidently Watts went down to GTE today with a flamethrower and an UZI,
and now they've seen the error of their ways.
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From: CHIP P. UNICORN
To: PSYCHE
Subject: GoCon
Date & Time: 11/30/89 18:24:15
Message Number 621
Psyche-
>You'll be able to defeat Chip P. Unicorn with your eyes closed and
>your belly full of alcohol...
Listen, Mr. "Who needs a board? Let's play mental chess!" on the
way from Jacksonville... my playing is NOT that bad. Reckless, insane,
and without proper motivation, yes. But not bad.
Chip P. Unicorn
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From: CHIP P. UNICORN
To: PSYCHE
Subject: GoCon
Date & Time: 11/30/89 18:27:43
Message Number 622
Personally, I prefer the hippopotamous. Or the Cabbage offense.
<Personal note to Rufus: see what you've gotten yourself into?!?>
Chip P. Unicorn
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From: CHIP P. UNICORN
To: TURTLE
Subject: Chess
Date & Time: 11/30/89 18:30:30
Message Number 623
>Why are the little horsies always raved about as though they were the
>next best thing to two gods on a plate?
We equines stick up for each other.
Chip P. Unicorn
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From: CHIP P. UNICORN
To: SPELLWIND
Subject: Con
Date & Time: 11/30/89 18:32:03
Message Number 624
> Having two speakers next to my ears and chucking out Appetite For
> Destruction at full volume has left me deaf.
Hmmm... betcha can't keep your fingers on the speakers for ten
minutes... :)
I'm game, Spellwind: what will your BBS's name be?
Chip P. Unicorn
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From: CHIP P. UNICORN
To: BEATLE
Subject: Yuppies
Date & Time: 11/30/89 18:37:57
Message Number 625
You're right. At fourteen, you're too young to be a yuppie.
You're a guppie. :)
Chip P. Unicorn
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From: CHIP P. UNICORN
To: RUFUS
Subject: GoCon
Date & Time: 11/30/89 18:40:57
Message Number 626
Where will we have the Dealers' Room? And the filking room? I guess
we'll have to partition off your room into four corners in which only
two can fit at a time...
Chip P. Unicorn
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From: BEATLE
To: SAURON
Subject: Vulvas
Date & Time: 11/30/89 19:02:50
Message Number 627
Do you plan on getting married someday? And if you already are, I feel
sorry for your wife.
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From: BEATLE
To: DONTHEN
Subject: Movies....
Date & Time: 11/30/89 19:04:10
Message Number 628
The discs that are letterboxed that you mentioned are available here
except for "Close Encounters". Another letterboxed TAPE I can think of
is the EXCELLENT film "Innerspace".
On the laserdisc front, the letterboxed version of "Ghostbusters" is
VERRRRRRRRRRY good, and "E.T." is also letterboxed on disc. "Roger
Rabbit" will be on a letterboxed disc within the next few months. Also,
I would like to see the disc of "Poltergeist" as it is also letterboxed.
Also, I would like a laserdisc player! hehehe...
Oh, just remembered, the new tape release of "Ghostbusters II" is half
letterboxed up to the credits, where it is fully letterboxed.
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From: BEATLE
To: TURTLE
Subject: Letterboxing
Date & Time: 11/30/89 19:10:19
Message Number 629
I love this. Something I KNOW about...
"Aliens" was not released on TAPE letterboxed. Neither was "Alien".
BUT, soon, both films will be on LASERDISC in letterbox format. And for
those of you who really liked the movie "Aliens", the TV (CBS) version
had(has) 8 minutes of new footage. Anyone tape it when it was on???
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From: BEATLE
To: LORELEI
Subject: DOLPHINS
Date & Time: 11/30/89 19:15:47
Message Number 630
You know, the name Don Shula is very familiar...isn't he one of those
football TV guys???
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From: BEATLE
To: KEN OBER
Subject: GoCon
Date & Time: 11/30/89 19:18:31
Message Number 631
Hey, I'll trade ya August for December. My birthday is in December. Of
course, if there is a Beatle con, people would do what >I< want to do. I
know you won't be showing up!
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From: BEATLE
To: CYBERPUNK
Subject: next conv.
Date & Time: 11/30/89 19:23:30
Message Number 632
There is, but there were lots of other Sci-Fi dealers sellingother
assorted stuff. Tons of comic books, $50 Star Wars figures, pirated
anime tapes, ROBOTECH stuff, and models, etc...
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From: BEATLE
To: TURTLE
Subject: Witches & Stuff
Date & Time: 11/30/89 19:26:29
Message Number 633
actually, the reason was that nobody would buy it...
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From: BEATLE
To: BEATLE
Subject: Letterboxing
Date & Time: 11/30/89 19:28:32
Message Number 634
And to clear this up, for whoever mentioned that "Alien" and "Aliens"
were ALREADY available (I saw that after I wrote the message)...
the movies (and others you said that were from Japan) will be
available HERE from US companies.
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From: SPELLWIND
To: SAURON
Subject: Misogeny
Date & Time: 11/30/89 20:40:27
Message Number 636
But alot of males fit that description (or act like it).
I'm not one of them, girls.
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From: SPELLWIND
To: CHIP P. UNICORN
Subject: Con
Date & Time: 11/30/89 20:44:57
Message Number 637
Haha! I'm not telling! They're holding it for me at Computers Etc.,
probably'll be a christmas gift. Hey, you dont hafta sacrifice presents
just because you don't believe in the religion!
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From: KEN OBER
To: CHIP P. UNICORN
Subject: GoCon
Date & Time: 11/30/89 21:10:35
Message Number 638
Hey, Idon't mind....my place would be a blast to have a con, ask
anyone who's ever been here! The question is...My parents wouldn't
go for it, sorry.... (well, they MIGHT)
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From: KEN OBER
To: CYBERPUNK
Subject: GoCon
Date & Time: 11/30/89 21:12:35
Message Number 639
> stupid.
Is that all you have to say? STUPID?!?!?!?
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From: KEN OBER
To: BEATLE
Subject: GoCon
Date & Time: 11/30/89 21:14:09
Message Number 640
sure I'D show up! Just as long as it had noithing to do with Ihate
about what you like! hehehehe :>
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From: ANGEL
To: CYBERPUNK
Subject: RUFUS CON '89
Date & Time: 11/30/89 22:09:23
Message Number 641
Hello, there. Pleased to almost meet you! Maybe at the second
annual RufusCon.
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From: ANGEL
To: RUFUS
Subject: GoCon
Date & Time: 11/30/89 22:11:32
Message Number 642
Can I add Scrabble to the game list, or is that too mundane for this
fast-track crowd?
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From: ANGEL
To: RUFUS
Subject: H.A.M.
Date & Time: 11/30/89 22:12:40
Message Number 643
I've had one play produced locally, and it was supposed to be produced
again this fall by a New Mexico troop, but that fell through for reasons
I can't determine (thank goodness I hadn't spend the anticipated
royalty check!) I don't sing particularly well, but I am very LOUD!!!!
Which is a castable asset in a large theater. I dance only under
duress. I'm still a fox-juggler in training, oh, and acting?
God, I'm wonderful!
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From: ANGEL
To: CHIP P. UNICORN
Subject: H.A.M.
Date & Time: 11/30/89 22:17:22
Message Number 644
No immediate plans to perform in a show. But I will be directing
the February show at the Players of Sarasota. It's called "The Musical
Comedy Murders of 1940" -- it's a hoot-and-a-half. Delightfully
bizarre characters in a snow-bound mansion replete with revolving
bookcases, hidden passages, and unknown knifer, and bodies dropping
like flies. I'm looking forward to it.
By the way, open auditions are December 18 at 7:00 pm if any of you
have thespianic ambitions.
Oh, and a kwepie doll is a cheap plastic doll once given away as a
prize in carnival games. It's contemporary equivalent is a stuffed
Gumby, or the like.
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From: ANGEL
To: SAURON
Subject: diversions
Date & Time: 11/30/89 22:31:30
Message Number 645
> Only if they're with younger women.
WRONG! Take my word for it.
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From: TURTLE
To: BEATLE
Subject: Movies....
Date & Time: 11/30/89 22:57:39
Message Number 646
I saw this most amazing thing once...a video disc player that didn't
use a laser. The disc had a groove in it like a record, and the video-
disc player actually had a needle! It was a really neat idea. It didn't
work too well, though; the groove on the disc was /very/ narrow, and
it tended to skip (a somewhat interesting thing to watch). The discs
themselves were pretty. Normally, they're sealed in a plastic carrier
and you can't see them (or touch them), but I broke one open once.
It's really shiny...and diffracts light in some amazing ways.
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From: TURTLE
To: BEATLE
Subject: Aliens
Date & Time: 11/30/89 23:00:38
Message Number 647
The CBS version has extra footage? Where can I find a copy???!!! Aliens
is one of my #1 all-time favorite movies!!!
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From: TURTLE
To: ALL
Subject: aLTER rEALITY
Date & Time: 11/30/89 23:04:29
Message Number 648
Well, gang, the spirits must be out in force today...I averaged about
10 new messages an hour for most of the day. Anyway, this message base
is starting to eat into storage space in a hefty way, so I'm gonna start
clearing out some of the older ones (hey, 700 messages isn't bad for
one 360K floppy!) I may start automatically deleting messages after a
set number of days if this keeps up...
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From: TURTLE
To: ALL
Subject: AAARRRGGGHHH!!!
Date & Time: 12/01/89 15:32:38
Message Number 649
Well, aLTER rEALITY was up and running on the 3.5" floppy...for about
half a day. Well, the traitorous, backstabbing thing failed, taking
the message base with it...AAAIIIGGGHHH! Anyway, I've restored a backup
of the message base, but 20 messages were lost in the process. ('Tis
a good thing I did a complete backup last night, methinks...) Anyway,
the microfloppy may be down for the count; the damn thing isn't worth
the effort it would take to kick it into next Tuesday. More on this
as it develops.
--A frustrated Turtle
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From: RUFUS
To: CHIP P. UNICORN
Subject: GoCon
Date & Time: 12/01/89 15:43:11
Message Number 650
An all time favorite offense when losing at checkers is the "Throw the
board across the room and storm out of the room pouting." I suppose it
would work with Chess to.
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From: RUFUS
To: CHIP P. UNICORN
Subject: GoCon
Date & Time: 12/01/89 15:44:26
Message Number 651
Well, the dealers room is under my computer desk, and the filking room
could be under the other desk. Say, we could have it at my aunts farm
that has 11 acres. We could bring some Port-O-Tiolets and have a grand
time for a few weeks.
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From: RUFUS
To: KEN OBER
Subject: GoCon
Date & Time: 12/01/89 15:47:25
Message Number 652
Here's what we do, we tie your parents up for the night.
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From: RUFUS
To: ANGEL
Subject: GoCon
Date & Time: 12/01/89 15:48:22
Message Number 653
Fair enough. I have this weird game where the board stands up between
the two player. I'll have to find it and see what you have to do.
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From: RUFUS
To: ANGEL
Subject: H.A.M.
Date & Time: 12/01/89 15:49:37
Message Number 654
Well, you'll have to tell us all when you will be acting next. We can
all come down and see ya. Of course, we are a tough group to please.
Hmm..last time I saw a play was "Who's Life is it Anyways" or something
like that. It was about this quaddraplegic (sp?) who wanted to die, so
they had a court case. It was extra credit for Law Studies, and well, I
wasn't all that impressed with it. Oh well, can't win 'em all. And my
mind is drifting..
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From: RUFUS
To: TURTLE
Subject: Aliens
Date & Time: 12/01/89 15:53:32
Message Number 655
Yea, I saw it. If I'm not mistaken, some of the extra footage included
these "smart" guns they set up in a corridor. When the aliens came near
the guns would proceed to blast away.
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From: CRYSTAL
To: ANGEL
Subject: diversions
Date & Time: 12/01/89 17:08:40
Message Number 657
To back you up on that, It is true. The woman does not have to be
younger then the man.
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From: CRYSTAL
To: ALL
Subject: GameCon
Date & Time: 12/01/89 17:15:29
Message Number 658
Hay guys, lets have a Game Con. It could be fun. Lets see we
could have Scrabble, Chess, Go, Scatergories, Monopoly, Connect-4,
Battle Ship, Pictionary, Sorry, Life, Clue, Trivial Pursuit, Boggle,
Wheel Of Fortune, Memory, and Chutes and Ladders. Just think it could
be fun. Any way it was just an idea.
* CRYSTAL *
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From: TURTLE
To: ALL
Subject: Well...
Date & Time: 12/01/89 18:30:24
Message Number 659
aLTER rEALITY is back up on the 3.5" drive. (Some turtles never learn.)
The new drive is somewhat slower than the 5.25" (Hey, it's from an IBM.
What do you want?) and is a good deal flakier (ditto, and the fact that
Turtle had to kludge an interface for it doesn't help...) Anyway, I
/hope/ this thing doesn't flake out on me again...if it does, oh
well, kiss some more messages goodbye. Anyway, the message base is
somewhat less cramped for room now, so it is probably worth it.
--An optimistic Turtle
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From: BEATLE
To: KEN OBER
Subject: GoCon
Date & Time: 12/01/89 18:37:38
Message Number 660
Yes, your place would be neat. And if you got that S-VHS VCR you could
have movies (maybe Howard the Duck hehehehe) is Dolby Surround and show
it off. Just one thing, your house has 1) many breakable objects 2) a
fairly small amount of space to have a buch of people around. Then again
you don't have to worry, your parents WON'T go for it.
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From: BEATLE
To: KEN OBER
Subject: GoCon
Date & Time: 12/01/89 18:40:03
Message Number 661
Well, I would show movies like "Back to Future"...just kidding. well,
I might do that. I wouldn't show horror movies. And I woldn't make you
listen to The Beatles...I know you'd really not want to come. What about
a Star Trek Beatle Con???
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From: BEATLE
To: TURTLE
Subject: Movies....
Date & Time: 12/01/89 18:43:43
Message Number 662
Lessee, that was either the first RCA "Selectavision" player or the
other first laserdisc player. I remember that was a top-loading player..
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From: BEATLE
To: TURTLE
Subject: Aliens
Date & Time: 12/01/89 18:44:52
Message Number 663
Hey, I also want to see that extra footage!
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From: BEATLE
To: CRYSTAL
Subject: GameCon
Date & Time: 12/01/89 18:47:25
Message Number 664
And one of the most amusing games---VCR Commercial Crazies! Yes, it's a
tape of the wackiest commercials from the people who brought you the
Federal Express guy. Some of the commercials are even funny!
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From: CORWYN OF AMBER
To: ALL
Subject: ? Letterboxing?
Date & Time: 12/01/89 19:30:46
Message Number 665
OK: WHAT IS LETTERBOXING!!!!
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From: TURTLE
To: ALL
Subject: Hey!
Date & Time: 12/02/89 15:36:03
Message Number 666
After a brief hiatus in which this board was experiencing weird
technical difficulties (due to a dumb turtle who never bothers to read
documentation...), we are back. A few people attempted to log on this
morning and got a carrier but nothing else; apologies if you were
one of them. We're still having a few quirky problems here at aLTER
rEALITY, but if you'll just bear with us, life will become sunshine
and roses Real Soon Now.
--A gosh-what's-a-manual-for Turtle
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From: ROCKY
To: ALL...
Subject: movies...
Date & Time: 12/02/89 21:58:56
Message Number 667
Well, I've heard all the classics, except for these few, which by the
way are also among my favorites, These animation classics seem to be
making huge comebacks (which they always seem to do) but I was wondering
what happened to "100 and 1 Dalmations", and "Jungle Boy", and ALSO, a
VERY classic flick that was realeased a relatively short time ago in
animation land, though done by totally different animators (The
animation in this flick was rated top of the line at it's time of
release) and that was "Heavy Metal". Since the release of Heavy Metal,
I have yet to see such quality animation in a full length feature
cartoon (if you can call it that) and it's storyline as yet unmatched.
There were segments in the movie "The Wall" which matched the quality
of the animation techniques used in Heavy Metal, but was only in short
visual bursts of fantastic animation.
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From: BEATLE
To: CORWYN OF AMBER
Subject: ? Letterboxing?
Date & Time: 12/02/89 23:10:58
Message Number 668
Ever notice that the movie theatre has a movie screen that is ALMOST
as wide as two TV screens side by side? Well, when THAT size is shown on
a TV with black bars at the top and bottom to fill empty space, THAT'S
letterboxing.
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From: BEATLE
To: ROCKY
Subject: movies...
Date & Time: 12/02/89 23:14:52
Message Number 669
Disney has a LONG line of classic animated films they have yet to put
on video. They often release them to theatres. For instance, "Peter Pan"
was released at least twice in the last 8 years. Anyway, that film and
others such as "Jungle Book" and "101 Dalmations" and the absolute #1
Disney classic, "Snow White" will have to wait a while for a video
release. Now that Disney's big movies are out ("Bambi", "Cinderella",
etc.), I would guess that "Peter Pan" or "Fantasia" might be in line for
release soon.
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From: PSYCHE
To: CRYSTAL
Subject: GameCon
Date & Time: 12/02/89 23:54:08
Message Number 670
I think it sounds good (possibly in January?) What does everyone
else think of a GameCon?
(Positive feedback only, please. If you don't like it, you don't
have to come. So there.)
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From: CRYSTAL
To: PSYCHE
Subject: GameCon
Date & Time: 12/03/89 00:59:28
Message Number 671
It think it is a great idea. I am glad you thought of it. And
holding it is January is an even better idea. You see after the 15th
I don't get any days off till Christmas any way. And from today on I
only get two more days of till the 15th. So January is and excellant
idea. Two great minds....... Ok so it's set. Will set the actual
date after New Years. And Thank you for your support.
* CRYSTAL *
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From: DONTHEN
To: ROCKY
Subject: movies...
Date & Time: 12/03/89 02:59:46
Message Number 672
Hm. "Heavy Metal" had some really good animation and some so-so
animation, depending on who was doing it (each segment was done by a
different team). The storylines of each individual segment were good,
although the connecting device of the Evil Green Ball from Hell was a
damn silly idea. I think the best animation done in the 80's is the
movie "Rock and Rule," which also had a pretty good storyline and a
fairly impressive soundtrack to boot. It is, coincidentally enough,
the only movie with anthropomorphic characters who could be considered
furries instead of funny animals.
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From: TURTLE
To: DONTHEN
Subject: movies...
Date & Time: 12/03/89 05:01:01
Message Number 673
Rock and Rule is also, coincidentally enough, animated by the same
people who did the animation in Pink Floyd The Wall. Rock and Rule
contains a fair number of really sophisticated animation techniques
and special effects that I have never seen anywhere else...pity it
was such a box-office flop.
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From: TURTLE
To: PSYCHE
Subject: GameCon
Date & Time: 12/03/89 05:02:50
Message Number 674
Positive feedback only? In that case, I guess it's likely to be
unanimous; everyone who responds will say a game convention is
a good idea. Seems like a kind of silly way to get everyone to
agree, though. Myself, I think it sounds like an interesting idea,
but I'm not all /that/ fond of games in general so I'm not sure I'd
want to make a grand two-day affair or something out of the whole
deal.
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From: TURTLE
To: ALL
Subject: More flames
Date & Time: 12/03/89 05:04:46
Message Number 675
Gosh, this bulletin board has gotten really slow, hasn't it? I knew this
-<deleted>- PS/2 drive was slower than the 5.25" drives I normally use,
but I didn't think it would be /that/ much slower. Oh well, the message
base is more than twice as large now; I guess the speed decrease will
have to be lived with. Kind of weird, though; the /only/ reason I like
PBBS at all is the fact that it's a fast system, so for the sake of
speed I am willing to overlook its weird problems and general klunkiness
and lack of flexibility; now it appears that that one advantage has
been tossed out the window. *Sigh* I may yet end up setting up an
ERACS BBS From Hell (ERACS: The program designed to convince you you're
running on a mainframe), but it'd be a shame to toss out the messages
I have so far. *sigh* Such is life, mine at least.
--A long-suffering Turtle
PS: Somebody ask Donthen about his car window. It's totally off-topic,
but it'd be amusing anyway. I bring this up because my fingers hurt and
it makes typing difficult. Ask Donthen; he'll make sense of it all.
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From: RUFUS
To: CRYSTAL
Subject: GameCon
Date & Time: 12/03/89 12:07:20
Message Number 676
Let's not forget Spoons, the only full contact card game!
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From: RUFUS
To: DONTHEN
Subject: movies...
Date & Time: 12/03/89 12:12:14
Message Number 677
So when is the AnimationCon?? On another note, our new TV has a feature
that gives everything a slightly bluish tinge, and it makes animation
look better ( O.K., some animation ).
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From: RUFUS
To: DONTHEN
Subject: windows
Date & Time: 12/03/89 12:15:37
Message Number 678
What's up with your car window?
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From: DONTHEN
To: TURTLE
Subject: ERACS
Date & Time: 12/03/89 14:20:36
Message Number 679
ERACS has only one major flaw: it bites rocks. It's hard to use, you
have no way to run it as an open-access system, you can't have spaces in
your username, the message base utility makes the Greene Machine look
downright userfriendly, the downloading utility is just as bad, and it's
SLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWW. When I was running it
from my hard drive it was about half as fast doing everything as your
floppy-based PBBS system is, and that's running on your 3.5" drive --
and I was running at 6 MHz. It takes almost a minute just to log on to
the damn thing. I'll admit, the TTY filter impresses the hell out of
me, and MONITORx/ECS's functions that don't require patching the damn
DOS are really cool (even though they don't do anything that the Fox
kernel couldn't do if it was set up correctly, not counting being able
to set privilege bits on every DOS command) ... but the advantages
really don't seem like they're worth the hassle. I suspect if you
actually set up an ERACS system, you'd really, really regret it after
a while. I realize all the privilege bits and the neato command parser
appeal to the mainframe hacker in you, but let's face it -- being able
to restrict access to the ATTRIB command when you let people play around
at your OS level may be something no other BBS lets you do, but it's
something no other BBS misses, either. Considering that nobody in their
right mind would run a public-access ERACS system without using the
menu control files, that "advantage" is somewhat illusory. A case could
be made for wanting to give certain users the ability to access half the
DOS commands, but it'd be real hard to claim it's necessary for a BBS.
(Besides, I suspect the same thing will be possible from the Fox script
processor, and with a better command parser to boot.)
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From: DONTHEN
To: RUFUS
Subject: windows
Date & Time: 12/03/89 14:34:00
Message Number 680
It's missing a gasket. Someone tried to break into it in Tampa. In
fact, he did it successfully, which is a good thing, considering his
friend's keys were locked in the car and both of them would have been
stuck at a Spur station at the intersection of Fowler and I-75 for even
longer than they were, which was, in fact, quite long enough. Cold
weiather sucks and they didn't even have very good coffee.
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From: CHIP P. UNICORN
To: BEATLE
Subject: BeatleCon
Date & Time: 12/03/89 15:59:29
Message Number 682
>people would do what >I< want to do.
Only possible in a police state. Or if you're Madison Avenue.
Chip P. Unicorn
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From: CHIP P. UNICORN
To: KEN OBER
Subject: GoCon
Date & Time: 12/03/89 16:01:41
Message Number 683
Gee... a might! location for a convention. Wow! This is the closest
we've gotten for a while... we'd better start printing up the posters,
T-shirts, invite the GoH and Fan GoH, hire some staff and gofers
before your parents change their minds, huh?
Chip P. Unicorn
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From: CHIP P. UNICORN
To: ANGEL
Subject: H.A.M.
Date & Time: 12/03/89 16:05:02
Message Number 684
You might find an interested thesbian here. When would the practices
be, and can I see a copy of the script? (When will the performance be?)
... well, if you have no use for a unicorn on the stage, my stableboy
might be interested, too.
Chip P. Unicorn
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From: CHIP P. UNICORN
To: TURTLE
Subject: aLTER rEALITY
Date & Time: 12/03/89 16:07:23
Message Number 685
At the rate we're going, might have to be on a one-WEEK deleting time...
aLTER rEALITY is doing fantasically well...
Chip P. Unicorn
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From: CHIP P. UNICORN
To: RUFUS
Subject: GoCon
Date & Time: 12/03/89 16:08:38
Message Number 686
Works good in Go, too. Then again, Psyche has a magnetic Go set, so
throwing it across the room might not disturb the position of the
board...
Chip P. Unicorn
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From: CHIP P. UNICORN
To: CRYSTAL
Subject: GameCon
Date & Time: 12/03/89 16:10:52
Message Number 687
Crystal-
The idea's been batted about a bit. Anyone want to get together
prizes for the winners? (Implies an entrance fee, of course. I might
do nametags in my free time; not supply winners' prizes.)
What games would be brought? And which ones would be competed in?
Chip P. Unicorn
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From: CHIP P. UNICORN
To: TURTLE
Subject: Hey!
Date & Time: 12/03/89 16:13:56
Message Number 688
I was one of them... anyway, how can we believe that message you
wrote? (Take a look at the message number...)
Chip P. Unicorn
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From: CHIP P. UNICORN
To: TURTLE
Subject: More flames
Date & Time: 12/03/89 16:17:40
Message Number 689
An ERACS board could be fun... don't worry; if this insanity dies,
there will be more to replace it. Long live Discordia!
Chip P. Unicorn
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From: RUFUS
To: DONTHEN
Subject: windows
Date & Time: 12/03/89 20:45:34
Message Number 690
Ohh, nothing like "I rolled the window up when Turtle's fingers were in
the way." I do that all the time, but the Hell Nova does have power
windows.
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From: RUFUS
To: CHIP P. UNICORN
Subject: GoCon
Date & Time: 12/03/89 20:49:04
Message Number 691
O.K. I'll rent one of those large cranes that has a giant electromagnet
on it. Then hold the board down, and flip the switch. Little go pieces
stuck in the roof. Anyways, could you give me a little hint as to what
you do in Go? All I saw was a board with about a thousand squares and
about 2000 black and white pieces.
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From: RUFUS
To: CHIP P. UNICORN
Subject: GameCon
Date & Time: 12/03/89 20:51:15
Message Number 692
Well, we need games for all types. Maybe Pictionary for the simple
minded ( like me ) and Spoons for the violent minded ( like me ) and
maybe Paranioia for the mind who likes to vacation ( like me ).
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From: CRYSTAL
To: DONTHEN
Subject: AAA
Date & Time: 12/03/89 20:59:25
Message Number 693
When I was able to drive, my parents, gave me a quift of AAA
automobile club. It was not until I started going out with Turtle that
I use it so often. When I first got the card I used it only during the
winter months in PA. Since I have moved to Florida and began dating
Turtle I use it at least four times a year. Any one who goes out with
a Turtle in the car ( no matter yours or his ) Take a AAA card with you
Remember don't leave home with out it.
* CRYSTAL *
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From: CRYSTAL
To: CHIP P. UNICORN
Subject: GameCon Prizes
Date & Time: 12/03/89 21:06:32
Message Number 694
YES AND THE WINNER OF ALL THE GAMES WILL WIN A *NEW* NEVER BEFORE
DRIVEN 1987 * Y U G O *. With the special options package:
1.) Air Conditioning (with the windows rolled down)
2.) Seat bealts (connected to the car in two places),(not necessarly
in the same place as other cars)
3.) MATCHING Pickle Bucket Seats
4.) Front, rear, and side windows
5.) Four tires (pre-instuled)
6.) A pocket radio WITH antenna
7.) And last but not least turn signals
Yes Ladies and Gentleman, Boys and Girls of all ages this car can
be yours, If YOU win the GAMECON....
* CRYSTAL *
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From: PSYCHE
To: TURTLE
Subject: GameCon
Date & Time: 12/03/89 22:03:11
Message Number 695
Unanimity is the point. Those who don't think it is a grand, spiffy
idea can just stay home. I really don't care to hear if they think the
idea sucks... That doesn't tend to be good for one's ego.
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From: PSYCHE
To: CHIP P. UNICORN
Subject: GoCon
Date & Time: 12/03/89 22:07:01
Message Number 696
Ken's parents might be agreeable to the idea of having a GoCon at the
house, but I don't think that they would Go fer hiring some GoFers.
That might be gilding the lily.
Just shoot me for that one.
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From: PSYCHE
To: CHIP P. UNICORN
Subject: GoCon
Date & Time: 12/03/89 22:10:30
Message Number 697
Throwing it across the room might or might not disturb the position
of the board, but it would certainly disturb the person who it hit. I
thought GO was a relaxing game.
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From: PSYCHE
To: RUFUS
Subject: GoCon
Date & Time: 12/03/89 22:13:47
Message Number 698
381 squares and a trillion black and white pieces. I'll let Chip
explain the object of the game (gee, that's a tough one).
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From: PSYCHE
To: RUFUS
Subject: GameCon
Date & Time: 12/03/89 22:15:40
Message Number 699
We could just have everybody bring their own games. If they were
smart, they'd bring games that they knew would appeal to the masses;
otherwise, they might just have to sit in the corner and play with
themselves. Like I said before, games included in GameCon should
appeal to more than just the people who brought them.
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From: ANGEL
To: RUFUS
Subject: GoCon
Date & Time: 12/03/89 22:50:18
Message Number 700
Wow! An 11 acre ant farm! Those little critters must be happy!
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From: ANGEL
To: RUFUS
Subject: Openings
Date & Time: 12/03/89 22:52:18
Message Number 701
Actually ARCHANGEL opened in a play Friday night. He's in 'The Lion In
Winter' at Anna Marie Island Players, playing the King of France. Gee
from ambassador to King, not a bad job promotion. I saw the show last
night and he was, as usual, superb. But he looked ridiculous. He's
6'6" and they put him into a long purple robe and then put a crown on
top -- made him look like Welch Gumby.
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From: ANGEL
To: CHIP P. UNICORN
Subject: Casting couch
Date & Time: 12/03/89 23:02:43
Message Number 702
Well, the script doesn't call for a unicorn, but if your stableboy is
interested, we need five men, five women -- ages from early twenties to
early fifties. Rehearse evenings from 7:30 to 10:30 five nights a
week starting January 9 (roughly). Show opens mid-February (this is
embarrasing, I don't remember what day we open ... oh, well, I'll be
there regardless).
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From: SAURON
To: BEATLE
Subject: Vulvas
Date & Time: 12/04/89 03:49:17
Message Number 703
Married again? No, once (for 19 years) was quite enough.
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From: SAURON
To: ....
Subject: Bah!
Date & Time: 12/04/89 03:51:45
Message Number 704
You've obviously all been brainwashed by the bra-burners.
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From: SAURON
To: TURTLE
Subject: Oz
Date & Time: 12/04/89 03:54:51
Message Number 705
Just for the record, Ballantine Books released the complete Oz series
in paperback about 8 years ago. I had a few and the cover art was really
nice;much more so than the terrible scratchings the original Grosset &
Dunlop hardcovers had in the 30's.
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From: TURTLE
To: RUFUS
Subject: GameCon
Date & Time: 12/04/89 04:13:45
Message Number 706
While we're on the subject of Games We Need To Have At GameCon, let
us not forget the more...reptilian of pasttimes--like, say, Mexican,
and Quarters, and many other sophomoric pasttimes designed to cause
extreme inebriation in their contestants.
--A game-loving Turtle
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From: TURTLE
To: PSYCHE
Subject: GoCon
Date & Time: 12/04/89 04:16:56
Message Number 707
Click...Click...(blasted thing)...Click...BLAM!! Aha, there we go.
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From: TURTLE
To: SAURON
Subject: Bah!
Date & Time: 12/04/89 04:19:13
Message Number 708
Men stink! They're all chauvanist pigs! Women are supreme! Women
everywhere should unite and cast off the chains of male domination!
Men must be put in their places! All of them! Off with their heads!
Force them to bow to the female form! Make them lie face-down in dirty
bath water! Yarg! Yarg!
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From: RUFUS
To: CRYSTAL
Subject: GameCon Prizes
Date & Time: 12/04/89 15:39:58
Message Number 709
I'd rather have another cake. Actually, for the next Con I'll bake my
chocalate with chocalate chips covered with chocalate icing brownies.
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From: RUFUS
To: ANGEL
Subject: GoCon
Date & Time: 12/04/89 15:42:04
Message Number 710
Not really, the bathroom is about a 3 acre walk. They don't go very
often.
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From: CORWYN OF AMBER
To: ROCKY
Subject: movies...
Date & Time: 12/04/89 17:37:17
Message Number 711
I thought Wizzard (are there two Z's in that title.. not sure.) had
scences comparable to Heavy Metal's .. Don't get me wrong, I'm a big
Heavy Metal fan, I just liked Wizard a lot too... If you haven't seen it
and you liked Heavy Metal.. get it sometime.
- Corwyn
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From: CORWYN OF AMBER
To: BEATLE
Subject: ? Letterboxing?
Date & Time: 12/04/89 17:40:11
Message Number 712
Thank you.. When they release films "letterboxed" do they usually
release it in a normal format also?
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From: CHIP P. UNICORN
To: ALL
Subject: Batman Apprec.
Date & Time: 12/05/89 00:07:23
Message Number 713
"Half-holy bat guano, FatMan!"
-- from the Robin Appreciation Society. All donations
cheerfully accepted. Have an excruciatingly pleasant day.
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From: CHIP P. UNICORN
To: RUFUS
Subject: GoCon
Date & Time: 12/05/89 00:09:35
Message Number 714
A hint? Heck! I'll try to teach you the game over the modem.
Basically, the game is very simple [Hah!] The person with the
black stones moves first. He places one of his stones in the
intersection of the lines on the board. Then the white player goes,
and places one of his stones in an intersection. The two alternate
placing stones in corners of the board. Got me so far?
The idea of the game, really, is to capture territory. If any
two pieces of the same color are touching horizontally or vertically
(note: NOT DIAGONALLY!!!!), they are said to be "linked." Still
with me?
Stones are removed from the board in only one way: they must be
completely surrounded horizontally and vertically (NOT DIAGONALLY),
touching, by the opponent's pieces. Heck -- here are a few diagrams
of captured positions:
o ooo oo
oxo ooXXo oXXo
o oXo oXXo
o oo
Got that? Here are a few examples of NOT captured pieces:
xxx
xo x There's an "escape" left for the poor o -- but he'll
xx probably be taken next move.
xxx
xooox
xo ox Surprised? This is NOT taken. The space on the INSIDE counts
xooox as an escape route... though they'll probably be taken
xxx next move.
xxx
xooox
xo ox The o's in this position cannot be taken. CANNOT! When X
xooox tries to move into one of the empty spots, he's instantly
xo ox taken... x cannot hold both empty spots at the same time.
xooox This is called "two eyes," and it's extremely powerful.
The only other rule you need know: you cannot move into the same
square twice in a row. This prevents certain bad things from happening.
That's it for the rules. When GameCon comes around (if!), I'll
review them... and play you a game. It's a LOT tougher than it seems...
Chip P. Unicorn
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From: CHIP P. UNICORN
To: RUFUS
Subject: GameCon
Date & Time: 12/05/89 00:22:16
Message Number 715
Yes! We NEED more Paranoia players! George Orwell meets the Marx
Brothers... (that's how we played it, kinda sorta... Lots of fun!)
Chip P. Unicorn
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From: CHIP P. UNICORN
To: CRYSTAL
Subject: GameCon Prizes
Date & Time: 12/05/89 00:24:03
Message Number 716
Crystal,
Thanks for offering the grand prize! Everyone, let's give a big
hoof to Crystal...
Chip P. Unicorn
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From: CHIP P. UNICORN
To: ANGEL
Subject: Casting couch
Date & Time: 12/05/89 00:32:17
Message Number 717
The only time which I might have problems with is the auditions.
I plan on visiting my parents for Christmas (actually, I have no
choice!), but I might still be in the Sarasota area on the 18th.
Regardless if I show up for the auditions, I WILL be at the
performance. At least as a member of the audience.
Chip P. Unicorn
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From: CHIP P. UNICORN
To: SAURON
Subject: Bah!
Date & Time: 12/05/89 00:36:19
Message Number 718
No. I merely have quite a bit of respect for the brain of my filly.
She is currently a straight-A student in her college (good going!),
as well as holding down a full-time job. And she gives delicious
backrubs.
Chip P. Unicorn
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From: CHIP P. UNICORN
To: RUFUS
Subject: GameCon Prizes
Date & Time: 12/05/89 00:38:56
Message Number 719
drool... drool... drool... Don't mention them in front of me. I'm a
chocolaholic!
The chocolate-lover.
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From: ANGEL
To: CHIP P. UNICORN
Subject: Casting couch
Date & Time: 12/05/89 00:47:04
Message Number 720
Please do indeed come to opening night. I want to pack the house
when the critics are there with people who will laugh, hoot, holler,
and stamp hooves in appreciation (whether they appreciated it or not).
This is my first directing assignment in the area and I'd like to be
asked back.
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From: PSYCHE
To: TURTLE
Subject: GameCon
Date & Time: 12/05/89 01:00:41
Message Number 721
You're not implying that we should have alcoholic beverages at
GameCon, are you? Ewww, YUK!
I have never touched a drink containing alcohol in my life (at least
not that I can remember, so I'm sure I haven't), and am not sure how
thrilled I would be about having lots of people at close quarters
belching, gagging, throwing up, and having flatulence contests.
If you insist, however, I'm game.
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From: PSYCHE
To: TURTLE
Subject: GoCon
Date & Time: 12/05/89 01:06:40
Message Number 722
If I were a criminal, you could say "aha, there we Go, Con."
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From: SPELLWIND
To: CHIP P. UNICORN
Subject: Poker
Date & Time: 12/05/89 01:45:50
Message Number 723
Well, we could play betting poker. I'd donate half my winnings to the
'prize fund'. And I am a Very Good poker player. I'll only play if it's
betting.
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From: SPELLWIND
To: CRYSTAL
Subject: Turtlecar
Date & Time: 12/05/89 01:51:16
Message Number 724
And a will, and insurance, and a seatbelt......
.s
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From: SPELLWIND
To: PSYCHE
Subject: GoCon
Date & Time: 12/05/89 01:53:37
Message Number 725
Well, you could always have it at my house. I have an interesting house,
and you don't have to whisper!
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From: SPELLWIND
To: TURTLE
Subject: GameCon
Date & Time: 12/05/89 01:57:44
Message Number 726
Definitely.
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From: SPELLWIND
To: CHIP P. UNICORN
Subject: Batman Apprec.
Date & Time: 12/05/89 01:59:55
Message Number 727
They might have him in the next Batman movie. I hope not.
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From: BEATLE
To: SAURON
Subject: Oz
Date & Time: 12/05/89 07:03:18
Message Number 729
Hmmmmmmmmm...interesting. They wouldn't have done that 10 years ago.
BUT, Ballantine was the company that took the chance by publishing "Who
Censored Roger Rabbit"...
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From: BEATLE
To: CORWYN OF AMBER
Subject: movies...
Date & Time: 12/05/89 07:06:10
Message Number 730
The movie was "Wizards" and it was made by the same people who did a
segment of Heavy Metal...
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From: BEATLE
To: CORWYN OF AMBER
Subject: ? Letterboxing?
Date & Time: 12/05/89 07:07:07
Message Number 731
Well, in the case of a letterboxed tape, the movie is only on tape in
the letterboxed form. To preserve cable ratings (assuming people don't
want letterboxing on cable), the
movie is converted to screen size for pay cable. If a film is on disc
letterboxed, chances are that there is a tape unletterboxed, unless the
tape was alredy released in letterbox. Only about 10 major films (maybe
less) have been released letterboxed on tape. Some other "classic" or
foreign films have also been letterboxed.
It is interesting to compare something like "Ghostbusters" letterboxed
to the normal TV version...
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From: BEATLE
To: ALL
Subject: ZemeckiCon...
Date & Time: 12/05/89 07:15:33
Message Number 732
ARE YOU INTERESTED???
The ZemeckiCon (IF HELD) would be planned for summer 1990. It will be
a two-day event including video screenings of the following Zemeckis
films:
"I Wanna Hold Your Hand"
"Used Cars"
"Romancing the Stone"
"Back to the Future"
"Who Framed Roger Rabbit"
"Back to the Future Part II"
PLUS trivia contest, behind the scenes of some of the movies specials,
AND the cap of the Con, a trip to the movie theatre to see "Back to the
Future Part III". Of course, to rent the tapes and buy the movie tickets
there will have to be a fee. This fee will also contribute to the prize
in the trivia contest.
Hey, it's a quirky idea, but SOMENONE has to be interested.
Tyler, don't reply to this message...
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From: CRYSTAL
To: BEATLE
Subject: Used Cars
Date & Time: 12/05/89 10:55:50
Message Number 733
Finally someone else that has seen "Used Cars". That has got to be
one of the funniest movies of all time. Everyone has got to rent it.
* CRYSTAL *
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From: CORWYN OF AMBER
To: ALL
Subject: The Shadow
Date & Time: 12/05/89 12:18:38
Message Number 734
Call The Shadow BBS, 359-1717.. it's up from 11:00pm till 4:00pm.
Online games: Murder Motel, Leech, and of course Camel.
If you haven't played Camel, you have to try it, it's a very simple game
but it's also very difficult to win. We STILL need more message writers,
I'm not going to put in other bases if there are only a few messages in
the existing ones..
Call tonight. (P.S. If you tried calling and got hung up on, sorry
I was having problems w/ the init string a lot, the problem's solved now
- Corwyn
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From: BEATLE
To: CRYSTAL
Subject: Used Cars
Date & Time: 12/05/89 16:20:58
Message Number 735
Yep, I saw "Used Cars". I originally saw it because it was produced by
Steven Spielberg. It is an oddity because it is the only R-rated film
Steven Spielberg or Robert Zemeckis has ever made.
I take it you would be interested in ZemeckiCon...
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From: CYBERPUNK
To: ALL INTERESTED
Subject: ChristmasCon
Date & Time: 12/05/89 16:42:19
Message Number 736
hey all, ayone interested in a ChristmasCon, or it could be CyberCon
, it can be held at my house, can have as much noise as you want, and a
LOT more room than Turtles house, if ya'll like it, tell me!! we might
have it!!
Cy
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From: SPELLWIND
To: CRYSTAL
Subject: Used Cars
Date & Time: 12/05/89 16:49:12
Message Number 737
That was with the dead guy. That guy drove that car and gave him a
heartattack. funny.
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From: SPELLWIND
To: CORWYN OF AMBER
Subject: The Shadow
Date & Time: 12/05/89 16:52:33
Message Number 738
Also call and help out the developing storyboard...
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From: SPELLWIND
To: BEATLE
Subject: Used Cars
Date & Time: 12/05/89 16:54:09
Message Number 739
yep!
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From: TURTLE
To: PSYCHE
Subject: GameCon
Date & Time: 12/05/89 17:08:23
Message Number 740
>I have never touched a drink containing alcohol in my life...
How sad. Anything I can do to help?
>...not sure how thrilled I would be about having lots of people at
>close quarters belching, gagging, throwing up, and having flatulence
>contests.
Doesn't sound like fun to me, either. I'm not completely sure of the
relevance of that statement, though.
Thpth!
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From: TURTLE
To: PSYCHE
Subject: GoCon
Date & Time: 12/05/89 17:16:46
Message Number 741
Puns like that can get you arrested in 17 states, Mr. Psyche...
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From: TURTLE
To: ALL
Subject: Yo-Yo's...
Date & Time: 12/06/89 02:50:55
Message Number 743
...don't go up and down as often as this system. *sigh* I just found and
fixed another teensy weensy problem...if you called and got stuck in
"Looking in your Mailbox!" for about 2 years, then you, too, were a
victim. Oh well. Anyway, it's all better now...
--A resigned Turtle
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From: CORWYN OF AMBER
To: ALL
Subject: Modem connects
Date & Time: 12/06/89 14:39:29
Message Number 744
How exactly does the modem connect process take place. I know I usually
hear two tones, then the (static) "crshhh" of carrier. What exactly are
the first two (or one) tones.. <-- On this system I hear one tone before
carrier.. It's one of the few 1200 baud systems I call so I'm not sure
if that's it. If (when calling another system) I hear only one tone and
nothing else, which modem isn't doing it's job.. (in other words, "Whos
fault is it?") Any other info on exactly how modems connect would be
welcome.
- Corwyn (Eagerly awaiting enlightenment)
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From: CORWYN OF AMBER
To: TURTLE
Subject: Alcohol
Date & Time: 12/06/89 14:46:03
Message Number 745
I haven't drank anything (significant) since the last PCP(about a month)
and it's done terrible things to my disposition. Really, I'm a much
nicer person when I'm slightly (or very) drunk.. have a lot more fun too
Wednesday.. (next) I plan on getting completely and totally smashed just
for the theraputic value.. I highly recommend it.
- Corwyn (Eagerly awaiting inebriation)
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From: CORWYN OF AMBER
To: SAURON
Subject: Abortion
Date & Time: 12/06/89 14:56:07
Message Number 746
Abortion has been defined as legal during the first two tri-mesters of
pregnancy (w/ a doctor's consent) Some people declare this an arbitrary
descision. I don't think we will ever know enought about conciosness to
determine whether the infant is self-concious at that time. The catchy
slogan "Right to Life" is mis-leading, as are discussions as to whether
the fetus is alive. My personal conclusion is: Of course the fetus is
alive, that is not the issue. Your teeth are alive, so is a cancerous
growth in a woman with cancer (I realize this is a distasteful simile,
but I believe it present the idea well>. No-one disputes the right of
an individual to have one of his/her teeth pulled.. or have a cancerous
growth removed. The fetus is the same as these two except for one
(or two.. see above reference to it's self-conciousness) factor,
it's potential. That fetus is certainly no more intelligent than the
cow you had for dinner last night (vegetarians are excused from this
argument), or Gasp! the Turtle steak you ate last week (or year).
The telling question is whether you judge the action on the basis of
the fetus' potential to become an intelligent, self-concious organism.
The precedence, I beleice supports NOT doing so, you can not sentence a
man to death because of his potential for committing murder.. you can't
try a castrator for killing all the children the man had the POTENTIAL
to have. As I am coming up with these examples off the top of my head,
I am sure there are flaws in them.. and I'm sure there are "Pro-Lifers"
who will joyously point them out to me, but my purpose is to demonstrate
the shift in the actual issue. I have many other reasons for supporting
legalized abortion, some of which are difficult to explain.. I'd prefer
to see how people respond to this note before explaining some of them. I
will return..
- Corwyn (Eagerly awaiting morally outraged responses)
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From: RUFUS
To: CHIP P. UNICORN
Subject: GameCon
Date & Time: 12/06/89 15:22:17
Message Number 747
I was in the thingy that is a pick up with tank treads. Well, some guy
was looking down the launch tube to see if it was clear, so I fired.
I explained to the computer that "He was attempting to sabotage equipmen
by jamming his flashlight into the tube." Of course we wiped out about
25 clones in 2 hours. Lotsa fun.
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From: RUFUS
To: ANGEL
Subject: Casting couch
Date & Time: 12/06/89 15:25:22
Message Number 748
No problem, just point the critics out, and we'll be happy to meet them
outside with large baseball bats. Will Archangel be trying out for
any parts??
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From: RUFUS
To: CYBERPUNK
Subject: ChristmasCon
Date & Time: 12/06/89 15:28:43
Message Number 749
Sounds good to me, but stop the Turtle/Crystal house bashing. They were
kind enough to let us in, and risk getting evicted. Half the fun is
stepping on people.
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From: TURTLE
To: CORWYN OF AMBER
Subject: Modem connects
Date & Time: 12/06/89 15:35:53
Message Number 750
Okay, here we go... The first tone you hear is a CCITT signal. That
is the carrier for a 300 baud modem; if you're using 300 baud, you
just send an ORG carrier back and that's that. 1200 baud uses a carrier
on a different frequency. Most modems will respond to the CCITT carrier
by sending a 1200 baud carrier, which (unlike 300 baud) contains sync
signals...that's why it makes that hissing sound. What happens on the
host end at this point depends on how good the host modem is. Some
modems will immediately recognize the 1200 baud carrier and start gen-
erating one of their own, and the connection takes place. Other modems
will search for a 300 baud carrier, not find one, and switch to sending
a 1200 baud carrier with no sync signals. They will THEN suddenly
realize that they're hearing a 1200 baud carrier and wake up, and start
sending the sync signal, and the connection gets made. Is that terribly
helpful?
--A wizard Turtle
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