The Debbie Letters to Aquavite, posted by Aquavite [The following series of email letters comes from a person I identify as "Debbie", who first emailed me after reading my posts at Patches' Place. We have continued an email correspondence for awhile now. I have edited (only for clarity) many of her letters, and with her permission I am posting them for all to enjoy. Debbie (and I) would love both general and specific responses to her letters. Email me (aquavite@sirius.com) with any and all comments and reactions, and I will pass them along to her. All I know about Debbie is that she emails me and I her.] Debbie One Dear Aquavite, I'm a new user and wanted to send you this to let you know that even though girls wetting their panties is a big turn on for you, for some of us its a real problem. It happens to me a lot, never really on purpose unless I know I have no other choice. So it may excite you but I wonder if you really know that this happens to a lot of us girls and how embarrassing it can be. BTW, my name is Debbie, and I'm a 5'2" 29 year old long haired brunette. Most guys think I'm cute and have a pretty good body (if that helps you visualize things). I'm not sure how many of your stories are true but I know some of them are because the same things happen to me, especially the ones about Joanne. I could really relate to her. From wetting my panties in grade school, in high school during cheerleader practice, to when I wet myself at McDonalds and everybody saw, to wetting my panties in college during class, at the library, at my sorority, at a frat party, at a football game, today when I'm stuck in traffic or stuck in a meeting taking notes for my boss or even at my tennis class. Like Joanne, most are just mini accidents but a few were major ones. It used to really upset me but now except for the embarrassment I don't mind it as much because it happens enough that I'm used to it. I used to try to bring a clean pair of panties with me in my purse so that I could change into them but that didn't always work so now I think its easier just to wear them wet and let them dry (like Judy). Is Joanne carrying a clean pair with her like you suggested? I've learned to wear short lightweight skirts or dresses never with nylons so that when I have my mini accidents I can easily lift or adjust my skirt so it won't get wet and my accident won't be noticed by others. Jeans and tight shorts are terrible for that (though thin nylon running shorts are OK which I know from experience). Sorry, cotton panties are a no no because they absorb way to much and take too long to dry. Besides I much prefer the feel of silk, satin, or nylon panties. They are so much cuter on and I love the way the silk gathers between my legs and around my bottom. So my problem isn't wetting my panties, its getting caught. See, when I was growing up my stepfather would spank me whenever I misbehaved which included wetting my panties. So I was regularly spanked through high school. Then when I moved in with my boyfriend Dave and told him about my stepfather, he soon started spanking me too. So I've been spanked most my life but always on my panties but it still hurts and is even more humiliating. So I get spanked now for wetting my panties probably more than anything else. The hard thing is to not let Dave find out because then I really get it and not always in the privacy of our home. He'll sometimes check the laundry basket to see if my panties are yellowed or even just stick his hand up my skirt and feel them to see if I've wet them. He loves to see me in little girlish panties like bikinis in white, yellow, pink, baby blue, with and without flowers, with frilly lace around the legs and waist and little bows in front (get the picture?) He also loves to show me off in public when we go out by dressing me in short lightweight skirts and picking out my panties (like you and Sara) . He usually picks out white or white with flowers which makes it even more noticeable when I have an accident. Then he really gets off on discretely sliding my skirt up, front or back, so that my panties will peak through and others will see. I have to admit that I get turned on to by knowing that other guys can see my panties so I just sit there and act like nothings going on. Besides, I tried to pull my skirt back down once, and got spanked later that night. He also likes it when I wear a cute little lacy bra under a wide open unbuttoned blouse tied at the waist to show it off. Then when its time for bed, he wants me in panties only and just like Sara I don't always make it to the toilet on time in the morning which means another spanking. Anyway, I'm glad that this kinda stuff is a big turn on for you but its a problem for me. Next time you fantasize about it just picture me getting spanked. ======== Debbie Two I didn't think you'd actually respond but I'm glad to see that your a little sypathetic to us girls who can't help wetting our panties. I think its so much easier for guys to hold it in than it is for girls and I don't think many guys realize this. But thats why all girls' panties are double lined with cotton between the legs because its really hard to make it to the toilet without at least wetting our panties a little. It really is. And I guess some girls do it on purpose because they get turned on by it. Not me, I just have trouble controlling it and I guess my judgement isn't the best either because I always seem to think that I can make it on time. Most guys don't seem to understand that including Dave. Thats why he spanks me everytime he finds out that I've had one of my accidents. And if it wasn't for the spankings, I probably wouldn't mind the mini accidents at all. After all, thats what panties are made for and I'm gonna change into a clean pair tomorrow right? But its the major accidents that are so upsetting to the point that I cry whenevey they happen because there so embarrassing and I know I won't be able to hide it from Dave which means a major spanking. "Is the story about Sara true? [I wrote Debbie a description of my girlfriend, Sara, who also often has mini-accidents and occasionally some major ones, and sometimes wears short skirts and semi see through clothes.] I'd really like to know. I read it again and really identified with her (morning accidents, "Its hard for a girl...", the way she dresses, etc.). I'd love to hear more about the other public displays of her panties since Dave loves to do that to me and I kinda get a little turned on by it to. What were those other times like? Does she also like knowing that her panties are showing and that guys are checking her out?" Just about everything I wear is from Victorais Secret. My favorite by far is their silk string bikinis. There so cute on! And size small fits me perfectly. (Right now I'm wearing a soft peach pair under my dress. Does that excite you to know that?) Does JoAnn or Sara wear these? I have lots of them but I love the white and white with flowers ones the best (so does Dave). I just wish they didn't stain so easily whenever I have an accident. And I'd probably wear more cotton if they didn't absorb so much. Victorias Secret has a really cute line of cotton string bikini panties called the Ashley Collection with lots of pretty prints that I wish I could wear. Do you know if JoAnn or Sara wear these? I bet they would look real cute in them. But I still think silk, satin, nylon, lace trim, etc. feel and look much more feminine and little girlish. Dave has no problem spanking me in public. Once was infront of his friends outside a club we all went to one night. He was a little drunk and got real angry at me. Another time was at the airport with total strangers watching. No, he doesn't like it at all when I wet my panties. That's why he spanks me everytime it happens. But I think he must like spanking me. I can't say that I like to be spanked because it really hurts (my bottom gets pretty red especially if I've wet my panties before my spanking) and its so humiliating I cry everytime he does it. But when I think back at the times I've been spanked in public (by Dave and my stepfather) I like the thought of people, especially strangers, seeing my panties (this is really awkward for me to tell you all this). I can't remember ever wetting my panties while being spanked since thats often what I'm getting spanked for. But I'm sure it happens alot. I really think theres lots of girls my age who either wet there panties or get spanked by there boyfriends or husbands and that most people don't know about it or pretend not to know about it because its usually a private thing don't you agree? Do you know any girls like me who get spanked regularly for wetting their panties? I'd like to know if it happens to others because I know girls who occasionally wet themselves but we never talk about being spanked. What other times have you showed off a girl? I wonder if there similar to what Dave's done with me. I bet you would like showing me off to wouldn't you? If so, how would you do it? So you want more detail? Honestly, I'm a little embarrassed. I'm also afraid that you might make some of my accidents available for everyone to read which I really don't want to happen. And I'm afraid that my screen name will get out and others will start sending all kinds of porno material. If Dave were to ever find out about any of this, I can't even imagine what my punishment would be like. Probably several public spankings knowing him plus other things I haven't imagined. I only wrote to you because your stories seemed more real than alot of the others. So I'll only tell you more if you really promise to not let any of this stuff happen, OK? Promise? And let me know what accident you want to hear about. A highschool one, a college one, one that I got spanked for? I don't know what you'd like to hear about. ======== Debbie Three Dear Aquavite, I didn't think you'd write back because I bet you get hundreds of letters like these from girls with this problem [aquavite: I wish], and I just wanted you to know how embarrassing and upsetting it can be for girls. I found you by doing a search to find out about other girls like me and info on what I can do about the major accidents. I found info on protective underwear but those sound so unattractive and unflattering to me that I think I'd rather just continue wetting the cute panties I wear now. One girlfriend who also occasionally wets herself said she wears 2 pairs of panties. I've always thought that would look weird though if anyone were to see. All my accidents are "desperate" because I'm not near a toilet or can't get to one or I misjudge how much time I have or I just can't control it. Sometimes it comes on so fast that I start going a little before I can do anything about it. I guess that's just part of being a girl. So do you like spanking girls too? [aquavite: no] I can't imagine being held or comforted after wetting my panties. I've always been taught that its a naughty and bad thing for me to do and that I should be spanked for it. I can't imagine anything else. Wow I'm so glad to hear the story about Sara is true. [aquavite: I had written about Sara's wetting problems and also times Sara has shown off her panties.] She seems really special. But I was really hoping that she'd be more into discretely showing her panties like I am. Does she really lie on the beach with just her panties alot? Dave's asked me to do that a few times after taking me to the beach without telling me. He's in shorts so he's OK but I'm in a short skirt or sun dress which he says doesn't look right at the beach and he's right. So he'll undress me and I'll be in just my bra and panties. Other times I've been laying out in the back yard in my bra and panties and the gardeners have caught me. And I bet I don't realize half the times my panties are showing and guys are looking up my skirt or what I'm wearing is see-through. But I think that's just another part of being a girl. OK, just for you since its pretty quiet here today ...... I just slid my skirt up to where I can see my white silk panties peaking through between my legs. And now that I've opened my legs a little I can see the lace along the sides. I'll leave my skirt like this for a while and imagine you looking at my panties! Sara wears the Ashley collection [from Victoria's Secret]? I bet she looks adorable in them. The string bikini kind? Whats your favorite pair of panties on her and why? Be specific, OK? I've been spanked nearly all my life and if I tried to fight back I'm afraid that I'd just get punished worse. So I've just learned to accept it. Spanking is definitely punishment, not play and I was always taught that my spankings were for my own good and I think I still believe that. And Dave's really good to me and I love him. He spanks me on my panties with his hand so its not like he uses a belt or paddle and spanks me on my bare bottom. And if he thinks I need to be spanked for something I don't argue because he's usually always right and I probably deserve it. I'm 28, 5'4", long light brown hair, a little wavy, green eyes, cute petite figure, nice bottom and legs, not too busty though, and a cute smile. I bet I'd really enjoy you showing me off. Just thinking about that turns me on. I think I'll slide my skirt up even higher now.....there I slid it up in back so I'm no longer sitting on it and its up in front to where I can see the lace and bows along the waist band! I'm glad you have no interest in Dave spanking me because if he were to ever find out about any of this it would be awful. OK, I'll tell you a high school story. It was one of my most embarrassing and upsetting moments. I was 17, and our family was leaving on vacation for a week during the summer. We were gonna be driving all day so my stepfather said we all better use the toilet before we go because he didn't want to stop so we all did. I remember I was wearing a light green short cotton skirt and white nylon bikini panties underneath which I think they looked really cute on me. We stopped for lunch about 4 hours later and he asked me to stand in line while he my mom and my younger brother used the bathroom and that I should go when they come back. By the time they came back it was our turn to order so we got our food and ate and I forgot to use the toilet. I had also ordered a really big lemonade because it was so hot and my stepfather didn't want to use the airconditioner in the car. Well, about an hour later I knew I had to pee but figured I would be able to hold it for a while. 30 minutes later I knew I wouldn't be able to hold it much longer so I asked if we could stop so that I could use the toilet but my stepfather said I thought you went at lunch and I said I forgot and he got mad and said then you'll just have to hold it. But it wasn't long before I knew I was gonna have an accident and so did my brother. He kept saying Debbie's gonna wet her panties....and I told him to shut up. And my stepfather said I'd better not. A little while later it happened, a mini accident. My brother could tell by my reaction and told my stepfather that I started to go. I lied and said it wasn't true because I was afraid of getting in trouble and I didn't know what to do. Then another mini accident and another. I could feel my panties getting wetter and wetter and then I went more and I knew I couldn't control it. So I told my stepfather to please stop so I could use the toilet because otherwise.....(oh my God, a delivery guy just came by with something for my boss and he saw me like this. I tried to pull my skirt back down but it wouldn't go all the way because it was up in back and I didn't want to make it too obvious. And then I had to sign for it so I'm sure he got a real good view. I think I'd better slide my skirt all the way down now).....because otherwise I was going to start wetting my panties. He was so mad at me. He pulled off at the next exit and we found a McDonalds and I got up and ran to the little girls room but by then I was wetting my panties and I couldn't stop it. When I reached the toilet I lifted my skirt but it was to late. My white panties were already soaked yellow so I just sat down and cried as I finished wetting them. I tried to pat them dry with toilet paper so that my stepfather wouldn't know but they were still dripping wet. When I walked out my stepfather was waiting for me inside McDonalds and asked if I'd wet my panties and I nodded no while crying. He then said let me see and I thought no not here so I tried to go outside but he grabbed me with one arm around my waist and turned me around so my back was towards all the people in line and then with the other hand lifted my skirt to see my panties! Now everyone could see that they were completely yellow between the legs and up my bottom. Then he said you know what this means and he pulled me across his lap, lifted my skirt even higher and began spanking me on my panties right there in McDonalds with everyone watching. I was bawling because I was so upset and embarrassed. I remember hearing a little girl ask Mommie is she getting spanked because she was bad and her mother saying yes she wet her panties like you used to wet your diaper when you were a baby. After my spanking we went back to the car and he put a towel down on the seat so it wouldn't get wet. I was so upset and afraid of him that I didn't think about asking if he could get the suit case down so that I change into a new pair of panties so I wore them wet the rest of the way. Fortunately they were totally dry by bed time that night. So that's my McDonalds story. What would I like? I'd like to hear more details about Sara's public displays of her panties and other times you've showed off girls. I really get turned on by the thought of guys lusting over a cute girl innocently displaying her panties especially when shes not aware of it. ======= Debbie Four Dear Aquavite, Wow, the story of you and Sara in Paris was great. [aquavite: I wrote a description of a time Sara fell asleep while wearing a short skirt in a public place and then in her sleep pull a leg up, totally revealing her panties for about 15 minutes.] Picturing her panties totally exposed with her asleep is such a turn on. I can't believe she didn't know. Especially if the entire front could be seen! She must have had her skirt up around her waist if the entire front of her panties was showing! Is that what happened? And I'd love to see the pictures you took of her putting on her shoes. She doesn't mind you taking pictures of her in her panties in public? And when she first fell asleep, were you tempted to slide her skirt up so that you and others could see her panties? I bet if that ever happened to me, thats what Dave would do. So Sara doesn't mind being seen in her panties in public but its not a turn on for her? Then what is a turn on for her? And what about Joanne? I actually thought about you this weekend because on MTV there was a VJ named Daisy who was wearing a short dark dress with spaghetti straps (no bra) and she was sitting down so everytime she introduced a new video, you could see the triangle of her white panties peaking through between her legs and I don't think she knew. It was a big turn on that millions of viewers could see her panties and she didn't know. Did you happen to see it? It made me wonder how many times that has happened to me and made me wish millions of viewers could see the triangle of my white panties between my legs without me knowing. (It seems like everytime I write to you I get turned on. Right now I can feel myself getting damp.) I never even heard of Hanro [a brand of Swiss made lingerie which I had mentioned to Debbie]. Can you buy them in this country? Are they real cute (flowers, bows, lace, etc.) and do they come in string bikinis size small? At my tennis class this weekend there was a little kids birthday party in the park and I couldn't help but notice this little girl because she reminded me of myself. She's probably 10 or 11, really cute, has long dark hair, and was wearing a cute short little pink cotton sun dress. When she was playing on the bars or swinging on the swings, everybody could see her white cotton panties. Her dress would fly up or she'd do a somersalt or one of the boys would lift her dress from behind and she didn't seem to mind any of this. Anyway it made me think that why is it perfectly OK for little girls to show their panties to everyone but not for little boys? And why do we wear dresses and skirts and see-through clothes and boys don't? And why are girls panties real cute and pretty and men's aren't? And why do I shave my legs, under my arms, my pubic hair and men don't? I really think its because were supposed to be like little girls around men. Were supposed to have our legs and panties seen by men just like that little girl on the bars or Daisy on MTV. Otherwise we wouldn't shave our legs or wear short skirts and dresses and thin see-through shorts and have such pretty panties. I really think that girls panties are so cute and pretty because there supposed to be seen by guys just like a little girl. Being a man, is that what you think to? And maybe thats why some guys like us to wet our panties because little girls wet their panties. If that's true then maybe I shouldn't get so upset the next time I have a big accident except I'll still get spanked for it (just like a little girl would). Do Sara or Joanne get really upset when they have big accidents? Another highschool story? OK. It was during cheerleader practice my senior year. We were practicing for a game that night but I was late to practice because I had to stay after class to meet with my tutor so I didn't have time to use the toilet. Our colors where red with white trim and we all had matching red cheerleader spankies under our skirts. Half way through the practice I had to pee real bad but I thought I could hold it till we finished. But all the dancing, jumping, and especially being thrown in the air and caught by the guys made it real difficult. Then on one of our last stunts I felt myself go a little but I figured I had enough protection because I had on panties under my cheerleader spankies. But on the next stunt I went alot in my panties and almost lost control and could feel my panties were pretty wet. So I told Lisa (she was captain) and she ended practice and went with me to the little girls room. When we got there it waslocked and I went a little more even though I was holding my legs and knees together. We thought about using the toilet in the hallway but the building was locked. I remember being panicked and telling Lisa that I was wetting my panties and I couldn't hold it any more. Then we saw a cleaning person and Lisa told him that I needed to use the toilet and asked if he could let us in but he said he wasn't allowed to. Lisa asked again and told him that I was wetting my panties but he suggested we just go behind the cafeteria. As we went behind the cafeteria I was going more and more and could feel my panties filling up between my legs. We got there and I lifted my skirt and was just about to pull dowm my spankies and panties when we noticed he had followed us and was watching me. He wouldn't leave and since I wan't going to expose myself infront of him, I had to keep my spankies and panties on so I just finished going in them and started to cry as he and Lisa watched. Lisa told him to leave and tried to make me feel better by telling me that she once wet her panties to. But all I could think about was not letting my stepfather know because I'd get spanked. But then Lisa pointed out another problem because the JV game was going to start in less than an hour and I didn't have time to go home and wash my spankies. But I couldn't wear them wet either because Frank (one of the guy cheerleaders) holds me above his head with his hand on my bottom in some of the stunts and he would know that I had an accident. Fortunately I had a clean pair of panties with me in my locker because I used to do that just in case I had an accident. The bad thing was that they were white with flowers (most of my panties in highschool were white or white with flowers). But Lisa said I had no choice so I changed out of my wet spankies and white panties and into my white flowered panties. It was nice to put on a clean pair of panties but it was pretty obvious that I had my panties on and not my spankies under my skirt but Lisa was right because that was better than everyone knowing that I'd wet myself. So that was another highschool story of mine. I'd better go because I'm at work. This time I didn't slide my skirt up to uncover my panties because of what happened last time. Maybe the next time I write I'll get the nerve again. I would love to hear more about Sara and Joanne especially the public displays of there panties when they didn't know it and maybe some wetting stories if you have some more.